Premium Episode 201: Attending Plandemic 3 & a Mikki Willis Talk at the Conscious Life Expo (Sample)
Anti-vaxx "documentarian" goes full Red Scare. The man behind the viral Plandemic COVID-19 disinfo series explains to an audience of New Agers how the communists are on the verge of completing a "cultural revolution" in the United States. We attended his speech and an advance rough cut of the third movie, both at the Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles. Plus we dig a bit into Mikki Willis's past and current projects.
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Welcome, listener, to Premium Chapter 201 of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, the Mickey Willis and Plandemic 3 episode.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rokitansky, Julian Field, and Travis View.
For Mickey Willis, the COVID-19 pandemic has been a transformational journey.
In late 2019, he was a relatively unknown filmmaker and producer behind a string of independent documentaries he described as socially conscious.
By May of 2020, he had made the LA Times for entirely different reasons.
Read the headline?
"My dad who made the most notorious piece of coronavirus disinformation yet" read the headline.
Here's from the article by Josh Rottenberg and Stacey Perlman.
When filmmaker Mickey Willis uploaded a 26-minute video called "Plandemic" to the internet on May 4th,
he knew it was likely to cause a stir.
But Willis didn't bank on becoming the poster boy for coronavirus disinformation.
In reality, he was just a dad in Ojai making low-budget movies out of his house.
The closest he'd ever come to viral fame was when he posted a video in 2015 to his YouTube channel About how he bought his young son a Little Mermaid doll at the toy store, a moment of open-minded, non-gender conforming parenting that earned him more than 4 million views and a laudatory spot on the local news.
At the time of this article, Willis was still somewhat apologetic about the conspiracy theorizing in the first Plandemic movie.
We made the video to go viral, Willis said over FaceTime earlier this week from his home in the Ojai Valley where he lives with his wife and business partner, Nadia Salamanca, and their two sons.
We knew the branding was conspiratorial and shocking.
Unfortunately, in this age, you kind of have to be that to get people's attention.
But that it would go viral to this degree, I don't think anyone could project.
In the LA Times piece, some background was given for Willis' interest in the medical field.
His brother passed away from AIDS and his mother from cancer when Mickey was in his 20s, which he partially blamed on, quote, harmful medical treatments.
So a little side note about what he'd done before this, like there were spiritual movies with like, I don't know, interviews with Deepak Chopra in them.
And then he kind of grew interested in these semi-spiritual independent stories.
And one such story is the story of the movie called Be Brave.
And this is about a young filmmaker who was traveling the world and he shot a bunch of videos and he ended up spelunking in this cave and took a human bone, supposedly of Mayan origin, from the cave.
Then he got leukemia and died of this bone cancer.
So basically the documentary kind of posits that they were related, that him taking the ancient Mayan human remain was connected to him getting leukemia, which is Kind of.
You know, a little woo.
The concept of the movie is that his sister would then set out to put the bone back in that same cave.
Like, so to return it or something and kind of finish the cycle or whatever.
What's interesting about this movie, though, is that it never got made.
And the Facebook page and all the YouTube comments are a graveyard of contributors complaining that they've been scammed because there were two Indiegogo rounds of crowdfunding amounting to a total of $300,000.
This was in 2015 and 2018.
And after that, everyone just went completely silent.
So there's lots of threads just calling Mickey Willis like a huge scammer and questioning what the fuck is going on with this movie like eight years later and being like, oh, you're busy doing these horrible like COVID things like what happened to this?
So very strange story in general and a kind of example, I guess, of Mickey Willis in his pre-conspiracy prone filmmaking career.
As for Plandemic, the first movie was centered entirely around Judy Mikovits, a now infamous source of COVID-19 disinformation who had made a name for herself in the anti-vax movement after her career as a research scientist ended in disgrace.
The movie is basically just an interview with her.
I mean, the whole thing is over in about 26 minutes.
Plandemic 2, comparatively, clocks in at more than 75 minutes and doubles down on all the conspiracy theorizing which Willis smartly mixes with legitimate concerns over things like the pharmaceutical industry, the philanthropy of Bill Gates, the history of CIA experiments on the American population, that kind of thing, the CDC, obviously, the World Health Organization.
So he takes aim at these larger institutions.
If Willis was apologetically conspiratorial in the first film, there is no trace of that remorse that he showed in that article here at all.
So in this episode, we're going to be exploring a talk that we attended by Mickey Willis at the Conscious Life Expo, as well as the rough advance cut of Plandemic 3, which he showed near the end of the expo weekend to a packed room.
Mickey Willis, unsurprisingly, spoke in the rabbit hole room of the Expo, where he followed Sean Stone, which we covered in our main episode.
His wife and business partner was in the front row with two of her friends, who we'd soon learn were involved in the couple's new Learning Center, an alternative school they had recently founded.
Willis had intended to open the talk with his new 7-minute video about unity, which essentially called non-COVID-19 conspiracy theorists to stop accusing each other of being controlled opposition and CIA assets.
Unfortunately, there were some AV issues, so Willis started engaging with the audience while the tech guy sorted them out.
All right, well, while we're trying to get the technical issues solved here, let's jump into that question that I asked a moment ago, and a couple of new people have filtered in, so I'll ask that again.
Other than freedom, what is worth living and dying for?
Love.
Truth.
Children.
Love.
Family, future, what?
Integrity.
What was that?
The Earth.
What is worth living in Naya for other than for you?
Sovereignty.
Okay.
Anything else?
Growth.
Love.
So anything you say, it's fair To assume that those are the things that are under attack right now.
And it's very important that we understand what's really going on.
In our country and in our world.
So that is quite a setup.
He gets people to say what they would live and die for, and then says that is exactly what's under attack.
Everything you just said that I just sourced from the audience, it's fair to assume that's under attack.
You all guessed correctly.
I mean, you all happened to name every single thing that is now under attack.
We're like, hey, what would you be willing to die for?
Well, guess what?
You might get the chance.
This alarming opening was a presage of just how openly conspiratorial Willis had become.
He followed it up with a little exercise for the audience, which I'll play for you in a second, and it's worth considering at this point that there's this woman sitting two rows ahead who was one of the loudest attendees.
She was, uh, middle-aged, blonde, and she was there with her husband, and she is constantly getting riled up, like you'll hear her through several clips.
Um, how many sheeps are in this room?
Okay, we have one.
Lions!
Just lions.
Well, you're going to have to prove that to me.
Okay.
Okay?
I'm going to count this down, and I want to hear the most guttural lion roar that you can possibly produce right now.
Are we all up for that?
You ready?
Here we go.
Are we lions, yes?
Yes!
Three, two, one.
[crowd roars]
Nice.
I did not roar, but I think that the friend of the podcast who was with me that I won't name did roar.
I don't want to put him on blast or anything, but it was quite a moment.
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