Episode 70: Judicial Watch & Tom Fitton feat Brendan Karet
The story of a right-wing smear merchant, his successor, and a six pack to end them all. Brendan Karet joins us to discuss Tom Fitton, heir to the throne of Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch, a now-MAGA-pilled organization that started in the mid-90s as an anti-Clinton outfit.
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Welcome, listeners, to the 70th chapter of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, the Judicial Watch episode.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rokitansky, Brennan Kuret, Julian Field, and Travis View.
The year is 1994.
Nixon is attempting to return to his bed.
Crawling among the empty Doritos bags and seedy jewel cases, the former president is slurring his words heavily.
His words trail off for a moment.
Richard's face is inches away from the side of the mattress.
He firmly believes he is answering questions for NBC's Chris Wallace.
This will surprise you.
He mumbles.
Was not doing early in 1969 what I did on May 3rd of 1972 and on December 15th of 1972 and that was to bomb and mine North Vietnam.
Richard's elbow gets briefly caught on a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup wrapper.
Slowly his head lolls and he finds his forehead pressed to a clump of dog hair.
He finishes his statement into the carpet.
I wanted to do it.
I talked to Kissinger about it.
But we were stuck with the bombing halt that we had inherited from the Johnson administration.
With Paris Pintoxer.
The blood clot finally completes its journey from Richard's heart to his brain.
He lets out a tremendous final fart, sending echoes through the empty house.
But it isn't empty for long.
Emerging from the clearing smoke, towering over Richard Milhouse Nixon's inert body, is a 43-year-old Larry Klayman.
An enormous smile is plastered on his face.
He inhales deeply, drinking of the nectar of once great presidents.
Larry turns to the camera and glances at his watch.
1994.
Tell Bill Clinton that I'm ready.
He tells the empty room.
To found judicial watch.
This week we have Brandon Karat, aka Bad Takes, on the show.
He's a researcher for Media Matters and a big fan of Judicial Watch, especially their president since 1998, Tom Fitton.
Welcome to the show, Brandon.
Hey, what's up?
Thanks for coming on to talk about the fittest of boys.
But before we get into this group of respectable conservative activists... QAnon News.
Okay, this week I have a couple of stories.
Not so fast, Travis!
As important as the QAnon mob boss killer and congressional candidates that happen to believe in QAnon are, I think it's time the listeners finally got some truly exciting news.
That's right, folks.
This week, the long-awaited OIG report has been released, and depending on what side of the political spectrum you're on, it is both a complete bust and totally damning for the FBI.
The IG found that because the FBI was already aware of Russian efforts to attempt to meddle in the 2016 election, our boy Papadopoulos' admission to Alexander Downer that he had heard the, quote, Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton, the FBI was well in its right to open a counterintelligence operation.
Usually I think that your brain protects you from shitty information, but there's something about Spygate that, like, an absolute fly on shit.
You just get lost in it.
Now hear me out, Julian.
What is wrong with you that you care?
I'm about to say something.
Very fair, okay?
Yeah.
Even Travis will be proud of me.
Okay, so this finding that the FBI was justified in opening the Crossfire Hurricane investigation flies in stark contrast to what the Trump admin, loyal supporters, as well as QAnon have stated many, many, many times in the past.
So the IG found that this is not the case, that the investigation began under biased, politically motivated means.
However, he does go on to say that from that point on, the FBI basically had major fuck-ups just about every step of the way.
No shit!
Yeah, of course.
They're all wearing melon hats!
There's like houses falling apart and coming back together.
They're Buster Keaton ass fuckers.
So the main revelation from the report, as some Spygate believers predicted, the Steele dossier became a significant part of the FISA applications and subsequent renewals after the FBI's first FISA application was rejected.
Also revealed in the report is the fact that an FBI lawyer who went on to work on Mueller's team got caught altering an email from the CIA to claim that Carter Page had not worked for them when in fact he had.
To me, the testimony the next day following the report felt exactly like Mueller's, albeit Horowitz did come off a lot sharper.
The testimony felt purposefully more damning than the conclusion of the report.
And of course, AG Bill Barr and U.S.
Attorney John Durham, hero at large, have already released statements that they disagree with the IG's conclusion and the FBI's motivation for opening Crossfire Hurricane, giving QAnon supporters one last fucking prayer.
That they'll be able to say, I told you so, to their families next Christmas.
At the end of the day, look, if I'm being honest... Be honest.
If you're someone like Seth Abramson who actually, actually said that the IG report was, quote, the biggest bust of all time, you're a fucking partisan hack.
The biggest bust of all time would be that the IG found that all FISA proceedings were handled appropriately.
Not that they altered documents and withheld information that directly contradicted intel included in the applications.
Well, the FBI did not plant informants inside the Trump campaign.
You know what?
No, they didn't.
They just had the informants talk to people Inside the campaign and recorded them without them knowing and like use presidential intel briefings to gain counterintel on Trump and Flynn which is fucking wild by the way that they went to him being like hey we're gonna hey we've got like counterintel to like brief you on about this whole shit and we're secretly recording what how they were all reacting which honestly is kind of smart.
Between Travis knowing about the Ukraine scandal and you doing this, this podcast is over.
You guys have acquired the fruit of knowledge and it's over.
You're ruined.
Yeah, well, look, in conclusion, I totally understand why people believe in QAnon.
In fact, I now believe in it again.
Back to you, Travis.
Again.
Oh man, worth interrupting Travis with that.
It's always worth interrupting.
It's an important Spygate update because I think it is one of these situations where, again, the QAnon people, they promise too much.
It's like if they just stuck to simple things like, you know, the FBI fucks up and the intelligence agencies need to be reined in.
You made a great point when we were going back and forth on the signals.
You were like, if Trump had played up the Spygate shit more as a Fourth Amendment issue and privacy and the freedom of these courts, he probably would have had a lot sturdier ground.
But to keep repeating the claim that the OIG was going to Yeah, he kept it more modest.
Trump always talks about this should never happen to a president again, as if the only people who can possibly be wronged by an out-of-control intel agency are presidents, where they are the least likely people to be harmed by these things.
You've forgotten the lessons of JFK already.
He was like, this doesn't apply to people like Julian who casually mention on Xbox Live that they're thinking about joining ISIS.
I did not!
You did the other night.
What?
Last night.
Last night when I was out drinking, I was actually on Xbox Live talking to you and you said that you wanted to join ISIS.
Why are you on Xbox Live while you're out drinking?
But my write-up was a fair estimate, right?
I was not too jakey on it.
You're right, you're right.
It's like, in a sense, sort of like everyone who's hyper-partisan about what's wrong.
So the investigation, they found no bias.
They found really funny, actually, kind of pro-Trump text messages between FBI agents.
And then they also found that the investigation was premised properly, but there were But there were many errors and over-reliance on the Steele dossier and procedures, and so basically improper information was included in these FISA applications, which is a problem because no one wants to give the FBI this much leeway into surveilling people, you know?
Julian's eyes are just rolling back into his head.
You know what it is?
At the end of the day, it's fucking Lazy Cops.
It's Lazy Cops fucking being lazy.
And then now we have to read the phone book like three times every year.
Good, I will.
Where it's like, ah yes, A, B, C, and by the end you're just exhausted.
They've done their work, by the way.
You even reading this stuff.
They win.
They win.
The intelligence wins.
You're right.
They're too smart for us.
So yeah, there were a few new Q-drops this week.
A lot of them actually focused on Attorney John Durham, who is now QAnon's last best hope to take down the deep state.
For example, take this recent Q-drop on December 14th.
Q-drop audio Month slash day Durham initiated?
Month slash day Q public campaign initiated?
How many coincidences before mathematically impossible?
It was over before it began.
Q.
So that refers to the fact that the first Q-drop was on October 28th, 2017.
And Attorney John Durham was appointed to be interim U.S.
Attorney for the District of Connecticut by Jeff Sessions also on October 28, 2017.
Oh my god, that's it, I'm pilled.
Undeniable.
Well, so is that a coincidence?
Well, yeah, it was a coincidence.
And the reason that Durham was appointed by Sessions was that the previous attorney for Connecticut, Deidre M. Daly, submitted her resignation back in March, but her resignation was declined to allow her to stay at that position until October so she could complete 20 years of service with the Justice Department.
So for this to be deliberate in QAnon world, you'd have to believe that the plan to save the world was delayed so that a career Justice Department employee could get the full benefits after her retirement.
Which, maybe that's cool.
Q respects civil service workers and they want to allow them to get their full pensions.
Especially if she was on Q-team, you know?
If she was one of the less than ten.
She was secretly on Q-team.
I mean, let's be honest.
Q is our only chance to rebuild the social safety net.
The Republic.
That's it.
If Q doesn't rebuild it, we're fucked.
I got some bad news for Julian.
Also should be mentioned that if Durham was part of Q's plan all along, Q never seemed to know this.
The first time that Attorney Durham was mentioned in QDROPS was in July of 2019.
This was months after Durham was appointed to investigate the origins of the Russia investigation
in May of 2019.
So here we have another instance in which Q actually trailed far behind what was being
reported in the mainstream press, which is confusing for me because QAnon people always
assure me that they know things far, way, way before the MSM reports on them.
Right.
interdimensionally.
Well, that's interdimensionally.
They actually do know, because they've been able to step back into the fifth dimension, where all time exists at once.
They've read.
Technology.
Secret, hidden technology.
So what they do is that they go back and decode all posts.
They say, if I did decode this the right way before, I didn't at the time, but if I did, I would have known, because that's what it says now, that I decoded it.
it. It's they're fucked.
Okay, today we're going to talk about Judicial Watch, which is a conservative activist organization.
Judicial Watch was founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, who is a conservative lawyer and all-around hyper litigious nutjob.
Klayman has sued OPEC, former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, and the government of Iran.
When he sued Iran, he sought damages of $10 trillion.
That case wasn't very successful, as you can imagine.
Well, they did nuke his home.
They nuked his home, they killed his dog.
That's worth $10 trillion.
That was a valuable dog.
$10 trillion?
That's like an amount of money I would ask for in a dream.
You know what I mean?
Just claiming his wick.
Going to Iran.
In fact, in 1998, Clayman literally sued his own mother.
Yes, that is the ultimate move.
That's king.
That lawsuit against Shirley Feinberg sought $50,000 in nursing expenses that he spent for his grandmother.
Wait.
How embarrassing.
Even if you want that money, can you imagine?
Just the tiny little shriveled soul.
After Newsweek reporter Daniel Klaidsman reported about that lawsuit, The Judicial Watch founder sent this press release to news
outlets all over the country.
Clayman used this information, obviously dug up by private investigators of the Clintons,
to suggest that the Judicial Watch chairman will sue anyone, and so hurt Clayman by trampling on the memory of his grand...
Oh my god.
Wait, and so hurt Clayman by trampling on the memory of his grandmother.
This is untrue, unfair, and outrageous.
What is true is that Clayman will do what is right, no matter who is involved.
Whether it means caring for his sick and dying grandmother who raised him...
Guaranteeing payment to her nurses?
Or taking action to make sure they are paid?
Klayman will not shrink from his standards of ethics and morality?
Unlike Klayman, who wants to curry favor with Clinton administration friends such as George Stephanopoulos, Klayman looks to no one other than God for guidance.
I mean, how is that something you send out?
That fucking rules.
I will be handling the case of suing my mother because I paid for my grandmother with utmost dignity.
This does not, in fact, look bad.
Also, I love God.
Now, despite what Clayman claimed, the story about him suing his own mother wasn't dug up by private investigators of the Clintons.
It was actually given to the Newsweek Reporter by Clayman's own brother.
Betrayal!
That rules.
There are lots of pathologically litigious lawyers, but Clayman really made a name for himself by marrying his love of lawsuits with his love of paranoid conspiracy theories.
And Clayman never heard a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
For example, he claimed that the 1995 bombing of the Oklahoma City government building by domestic terrorists was actually masterminded, in part, by Saddam Hussein.
In part?
What, did he just start the drawing and then he folded it over and you have to complete it?
Well, it was like him and a cabal of American neo-Nazis.
Yeah, Saddam and the neo-Nazis.
Saddam working together, clearly.
Classic children's book.
He has also pushed the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya and a secret Muslim, of course, even once calling Obama the Muslim-in-chief in the column.
During the Obama years, Clayman even tried to bring birtherism to the courtroom.
In 2012, Clayman filed a lawsuit in Florida arguing that Barack Obama was ineligible to be president because, "...neither Mr. Obama, nor the Democratic Party of Florida, nor any other group has confirmed that Mr. Obama is a, quote, natural-born citizen, since his father was a British subject born in Kenya and not a citizen of the United States."
But Clayman really made a name for himself suing and even deposing White House officials during the Clinton administration.
Larry Clayman's activities through judicial watch against the Clintons were so notorious that a fictionalized version of him was portrayed in a 2000 episode of The West Wing through the character Larry Claypool.
Great, just great writing.
The West Wing.
Hey, give it to him, you know.
Dill Binton was... I mean, come on.
Dill Blinton.
The genius of Sorkin.
In the West Wing version, Claypool ran a conservative activist organization called Freedom Watch instead of Judicial Watch.
So here's a scene from The West Wing in which the character Larry Claypool deposes the show's White House Deputy Chief of Staff, who is portrayed by Bradley Whitford.
And you didn't make a single note?
No.
You're asking me to believe- This is the seventh lawsuit you brought against the White House and the fourth time you've deposed me and demanded to see documents that don't exist.
In your investigation, in which you wrote nothing down, and it's nice to see that the White House is taking the matter so seriously, In your investigation, did you find any evidence of staff drug use?
No.
I'd like to remind you that you're under oath.
And I'd like to remind you that that's the seventh time that you've reminded him since he sat down.
Great show.
It's a great show, smart show, good show.
You know what I would do if it were up to me?
I would base an entire generation of politicians on this show.
Just base your thinking on it.
The real life Clayman actually loved the name of the fictional organization Freedom Watch so much that when he left Judicial Watch he named his new organization Freedom Watch.
So we have the fictional world and real life just blending into each other until you just can't tell the difference between the two.
Let Sorkin write both sides.
That sounds perfect.
Let Sorkin write the Civil War.
Let's go.
Second Civil War, Aaron Sorkin, and a room of underpaid interns.
Let's go.
So Larry Klayman was actually raised in Philadelphia.
There his family owned a pork packing plant.
From the age of eight, he spent summers and holidays working alongside blood-spattered hog dressers as they turned pigs into pork shops.
I enjoyed writing that too much.
It's fantastic stuff.
What is it with pig farmers and roonies?
It's always good when your freedom fighters have the origin story of working on a meat farm.
It's just babe, except the farmer keeps harassing women online.
For reasons that are unclear, Klayman later told CNN that this experience eventually helped him be a Clinton administration antagonist.
You see people walking around with huge knives and livestock being cut up.
I guess you have to be brought up in that kind of environment to be able to accept and enjoy the challenge of taking on a force as great as the Clinton administration.
When you're birthed from an environment where people People are slitting the throats of pigs dangling upside down.
Correct.
It perfectly prepares you to go after the Clintons.
Prior to founding Judicial Watch, Larry Klayman actually came from a left-of-center background.
As a student at Emory Law School in 1976, he volunteered for Jimmy Carter's presidential campaign, thinking that the honest peanut farmer and former Georgia governor would be right for the nation after Nixon sullied the office.
This flies in the face of my previous research, so I protest.
Klayman also worked for the Democratic Senator from Washington, Henry Scoop Jackson, who supported the 1957 and the 1964 Civil Rights Acts.
But should we know that Jackson was a bit of a hawkish Democrat who supported the Vietnam War?
Uh, the entire history of America.
It's weird.
Cause this like center left guy, uh, carpet bombed an entire country.
Anyways, let's move to the next decade and learn nothing.
Clayman began his professional legal career in Washington as a prosecutor with the U S department of justices, uh, consumer affairs division.
So fighting for consumer rights, nothing wrong with that.
Uh, but he claims he soon discovered that the government was an enemy rather than the friend of the people.
So he quit that and joined a private law firm.
Even before Klayman founded Judicial Watch in 1994, he gained a reputation for being an incompetent and obnoxious attorney.
For example, in the early 90s, Klayman represented a Taiwanese manufacturer of bathroom hardware called Frank Su Enterprise Corporation, who was facing design, patent, and trademark infringement litigation brought by an American company called Baldwin.
In the pre-trial proceedings, Klayman repeatedly failed to comply with the court's rules and orders.
During the trial, Klayman requested that the judge in the case, Judge William D. Keller, recuse himself.
That request was denied, as there was no legitimate basis for recusal.
He's just trying all this stuff.
He's looking at like a check, like a checkmark list, just like, what can I do?
I can recuse.
He got all the verbs lined up.
I'm noticing a pattern here.
It seems that people who dedicate their lives to fighting for this current president, it seems like they fucked everything up until 2016 where there was a new home for them.
Yes.
Matt Whitaker, all these guys who end up being champions for this dude.
Anytime we research them, what do we find out?
That they completely failed at whatever career they set out to do first and then found a new home and new life and new purpose with the election of Donald J. Trump.
And they had opinion columnists writing shit about how failure is actually winning, and shit like that.
And so it works!
It works now.
We are in the inverted world, and all failures are actually now elevated.
Which rules!
I think it's great.
You know what that means for me?
I'm the most successful man of all time.
Meet the podcaster you deserve, Jake Rokitansky.
Over the course of that trademark infringement trial, Judge Keller admonished Larry Klayman several times concerning his conduct of the proceedings.
For example, Klayman failed to have his client, Frank Su, appear in court on the appointed day, even after the court had granted an extension that allowed Su to travel from Taiwan.
Clayman also lodged a late request for a jury trial on the patent issues, even though Clayman waived a jury trial during a status conference before the trial.
Additionally, Larry Clayman had a habit of speaking even after Judge Keller requested silence, which I'm told is something judges do not appreciate.
Yeah, they don't like that.
In 1992, after Clayman lost that case, his obnoxious behavior got him barred from Judge William Keller's courtroom for life.
That incident led to a decades-long vendetta against Keller.
He appealed the ruling that prevented him from appearing in Keller's court and accused Keller of being anti-Semitic and anti-Asian, since Keller is himself Jewish and his client was Asian.
Your client's last name is literally Sue.
I mean, that's an issue, you know?
After Klayman lost his appeal and was scolded by the appeals court judges, he tried unsuccessfully to appeal to the Supreme Court.
I found a column published by Klayman as recently as 2015 that accused Keller of being a racist and a drunk.
That is awesome.
He just never forgot it.
Just burning with hatred and rage for this man.
Just nursing it.
He just sounds like my fucking, you know, rest your soul, like 85 year old softa who is like, he's a racist, and a drunk, and a cheater, and a gambler.
About the one cousin who didn't call her back.
Yeah, and she would start with the cousin that she liked.
She would be like, well, Susie, she was beautiful, very talented, and she did a lot of great work for the show.
But her brother, Roger, was a cheat and a drunk.
Just loss of thought.
Everyone's just trying to get the table served for lunch or something.
According claimant in this 2009 autobiography whores Why and how I came to fight the establishment
How do you it's it's interesting because usually most Autobiography titles are about like, you know what they're
proud of or their accomplishment. There's their personal philosophy, you know my life or whatever
You know my long journey And this is whores.
This is what he hated, because he despised all the whores in Washington.
You know, the actual, the subtitle is great, Why and How I Came to Fight the Establishment.
You could literally put any fucking word in front of that and it would be... As long as it's not the plural for whore.
Larry Larry we're gonna need you to workshop this Can you imagine being like on the phone with him like his publisher being like well Larry?
We like the second part of the title, but the first which is not so sure about he's like adamant.
He's like no anyways according to the other biography that that battle he had with Judge Keller actually Inspired him to found Judicial Watch in 1994.
So just reiterate the foundation that we're talking about today was founded because a shitty lawyer had a personal beef with a judge who got sick of that lawyers bullshit.
In the 90s, Judicial Watch supported requiring judges to undergo psychological testing and holding them personally liable for reckless rulings.
It also advocated for removing Keller from the bench.
Just consumed with hatred for this man.
Well, he does understand how legislation is passed.
You attach your petty bullshit to a bigger thing and it flies stealth.
You know, this is another pattern I'm beginning to notice, is that people in staunch support of, again, this current president, have usually at least one lifelong grudge of somebody.
They're always motivated by spite.
Yeah, they're motivated by anger against somebody who wronged them.
And then, of course, you look into it, and they weren't wronged at all.
The other person was acting completely rationally.
It's amazing.
But what really helped Clayman make a name for himself was the 18 lawsuits he filed against the administration of President Bill Clinton and other figures in the Clinton administration.
Now, it should be noted that some of these lawsuits were based on arguably legitimate ethical concerns.
For example, in 1995, Judicial Watch filed suit over allegations that the Clinton administration sold seats on United States federal planes going on international trade missions for the purposes of raising campaign contributions.
The allegation was that then Commerce Secretary Ron Brown was essentially using those trade missions to reward Democratic Party donors.
In an attempt to uncover corruption, Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act request for information from the Department of Commerce.
Now, I'm against donors buying their ways into the halls of power, so nothing wrong with checking to see if that's what's happening.
The Commerce Department papers Judicial Watch uncovered clearly indicate that many corporate contributors expected that their money would earn them special consideration when seats were being handed out on the Secretary's plane.
In a letter addressed to Deputy Assistant Commerce Secretary Jude Kearney, a donor named C. Payne Lucas suggests that he should be added to a mission headed to South Africa in 1993 because he contributed to the election campaigns of both Clinton and South African President Nelson Mandela.
Yeah, the two first POC presidents.
Right.
So it's kind of unclear whether there's actual serious pay-to-play going on.
Research from a watchdog group called Center for Public Integrity indicates that non-givers outnumbered givers on trips two to one.
However, testimony from Nolanda Hill, who was a business associate of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, claims that Bill and Hillary supported a White House plan to sell seats on international trade missions to raise campaign contributions.
So you're going to like this, Jake.
Investigations into the matter were complicated by the fact that while Secretary Brown was on a trade mission to Croatia in 1996, he died in a plane crash that killed 34 other people.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And to make things worse, Brown happened to die the very week he was supposed to be deposed by Judicial Watch.
Clinton.
Hold on.
I know what you're thinking.
Those poor other 33 people that weren't about to expose the Clintons.
Those poor people that did nothing.
A subsequent Air Force investigation into the crash found that it was caused by, quote, failure of command, aircrew error, and an improperly designed instrument approach procedure, end quote, and not Hillary Clinton murdering dozens of people via an airplane crash in order to prevent Brown from testifying.
Sure, sure.
We all know that in that era, Chelsea was small enough that they could put her in a tax suit, a little baby tax suit, and send her into the fucking engines.
You're wrong, you're wrong.
I know the real story.
Hillary Clinton donned a disguise, she snuck on the plane, snuck into the cockpit, messed with the instruments, causing the plane- Threw a coffee on them?
Yeah.
Jumped to Sprite, you know, so they fizzled and sparked and the red lights going on.
Yeah.
And then, you know, the plane started to stab the two pilots.
Oh, stabbed.
She kills them both.
Slit their throats.
My God.
Slit their throats, drink their blood.
And then...
And then, and then, and then, hold on, hold on.
And then, and then she put on a parachute, jumped out, parachuted away to safety.
Plane crashes.
Yeah.
Another plane, a boat comes by, picks her up.
Picks her up.
Takes her back to the Chappaqua.
Where she has a great alibi.
Almost too easy.
The Clintons were never found to have done anything wrong in the case of the trade mission seats.
But after Clinton was reelected, the Commerce Secretary, the new Commerce Secretary, instituted new departmental policies intended to prevent politics from being part of the selection process for trade missions.
So that's all good.
I'm realizing now that House of Cards just straight up leaned into the Clinton body count thing.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
They integrated the Clinton body count as a fact.
As a plot device.
He just pushes that reporter onto the train tracks.
Every show is secret MAGA.
Every show.
Play this game with your family this Thanksgiving.
Make sure it's a drinking one.
I should also mention that during the Obama years, Clayman filed a lawsuit over the NSA's mass surveillance.
That resulted in U.S.
federal judge Richard J. Leon ruling that bulk collection of American telephone metadata likely violates the Fourth Amendment.
However, his case was eventually dismissed in 2017 by the same judge because Klayman had failed to establish that he or his client had standing.
So even when Klayman is arguably working towards something good with his lawsuits, he's too incompetent of a lawyer to successfully follow through.
But in the 90s, most of Judicial Watch's lawsuits seemed to serve the purpose of being as obnoxious as possible rather than forcing government transparency or uncovering genuine corruption.
Take, for example, the so-called Filegate controversy.
So this concerned an incident in which the director of the White House's Office of Personal Security, Craig Livingstone, improperly requested and then received from the FBI background reports concerning several hundred individuals without asking permission from those people.
So getting sensitive information without proper procedures was genuinely a bad thing.
Livingstone apologized and resigned from his position.
There was also subsequently multiple investigations into who else may have been involved in requesting the files.
Republican Senator Orrin Hatch even requested that the FBI do a fingerprint analysis on the files to see who had handled them.
The FBI subsequently found that neither Hillary nor any top White House aides handled the files.
Investigations by independent counsel Ken Starr and Robert Wray also cleared the Clintons of wrongdoing in the Filegate matter.
So I think this is really funny if the FBI dusting for prints trying to find Hillary's fingerprints all over these files.
She's got him beat.
She's too good at what she does.
She wears gloves.
She wears gloves.
She knows.
She knows not to put her own fingerprints on.
No, you know what she's done?
You know what I heard?
Is that she's burned off the tips of all of her fingers so that she doesn't leave behind.
Yeah, she pushes her fingers into a fire every night.
But for Judicial Watch and Larry Klayman, the so-called official investigations in the file weren't satisfactory.
In 1996, Klayman filed a $90 million class action lawsuit that accused Hillary and others of harming White House employees of previous administrations by mishandling their background files.
The actual lawsuit never really went anywhere and was finally dismissed in 2010.
But while the Filegate lawsuit was ongoing, he was able to compel Clinton administration officials like Harold Ickes, George Stephanopoulos, James Carville, and Paul Beghella to sit for all-day depositions.
A 1998 article published by Slate by Jacob Weisberg describes what these were like and what their purpose seemed to be.
In these torture sessions, Klayman rants and raves and demands to, quote, certify for the court answers that he deems evasive.
Klayman asks administration officials about whom they date, where they go after work, whether they were expelled from school for disciplinary problems.
One 23-year-old White House assistant was interrogated about a triple murder that took place at a Starbucks in Georgetown.
Klayman videotapes these depositions, excerpts of which air on Geraldo when Klayman appears on the program and publishes the transcripts on the internet.
This is in pursuit of a case about the invasion of privacy, remember?
But resistance is largely futile.
Last week, the presiding judge in the case sanctioned Stephanopoulos for not looking hard enough for documents covered by a judicial watch subpoena.
As punishment, Stephanopoulos has to go through the ordeal of another deposition and pay some of Clayman's legal costs.
The ultimate goal of the Filegate suit appears to be to inflict this treatment on Hillary Clinton.
So after years of legal wrangling that went nowhere, Judicial Watch's Filegate suit was finally dismissed.
In 2010, Chief Judge Royce Landberth dismissed the suit in an opinion that's just bristling with irritation.
After years of litigation, endless depositions, the fictionalized portrayal of this lawsuit and its litigants on television, the innumerable histrionics, this court is left to conclude that with this lawsuit, to quote Gertrude Stein, there's no there there.
While this court seriously entertained the plaintiff's allegations that their privacy had been violated, and indeed it was, even if not in the sense contemplated by the Privacy Act, after ample opportunity they have not produced any evidence of the far-reaching conspiracy that sought to use intimate details from FBI files for political assassinations that they alleged.
So despite the fact that Clayman occasionally uncovered possibly shady business, the bulk of Judicial Watch's efforts in the 90s seemed to work just like that.
He'd allege a conspiracy theory, attempt to uncover information that proved that conspiracy theory, and then lose the lawsuit.
But he would successfully be a pain in the ass along the way, which was the point.
Yeah, hell yeah.
In a 2017 interview with The Hill, Clayman alleged that it didn't matter that his lawsuits failed to make their case.
The point is what you do in the process of the lawsuit.
I'm testing the limits of the law.
Win or lose, I want to make a point.
You gather information along the way.
Even if you don't like the result, you get discovery.
But you might ask, how exactly did Judicial Watch and Larry Klayman finance all of these lawsuits if he kept losing?
Well, fortunately for Klayman in the 90s, there were many political donors with deep pockets who were willing to finance anyone who was willing to be a thorn in the side of the Clintons.
Among them was billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, who donated $7.74 million to Judicial Watch.
This guy is one of the architects of our era, like with the Koch brothers.
They basically used the philanthropy system set up so that they could invest in stuff like this and not pay taxes.
Clever.
Like, have it be deductible and also harm their political enemies.
Well, it's a clever move.
Win-win for them.
Also clever for Clayman.
He was a way to be just an absolutely shitty lawyer but make a good living doing it.
Yeah, he's a better Jacob Wohl.
Funded.
Funded.
In 2003, Larry Klayman hired our big, beefy boy Tom Fitton, who became the president of Judicial Watch.
That same year, Klayman left the organization to pursue political office.
So in 2004, Klayman ran for the United States Senate from Florida.
His platform included pushing for the United States to withdraw from the United Nations and demanding that, quote, the immediate removal of Cuba dictator-in-chief Fidel Castro by force if necessary, end quote.
So, bit hawkish, bit hawkish.
Great, great campaign.
Yeah, I think he could win on a Democratic ticket.
Despite making a name for himself as an enemy of the Clintons, he lost in the Republican Party primary, finishing 7th out of 8 candidates.
So, just disliked by everyone, even in his own party.
Earlier this month, by the way, I checked on what he was doing this year, Larry Klayman, and it seems like he's decided to be a real piece of shit.
Earlier this month it was announced that Klayman was representing George Zimmerman in a lawsuit against the family of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black Florida teen that Zimmerman shot and killed in 2012.
Hopefully we'll finally get some justice there then.
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Clayman is also currently battling a D.C.
ethics panel who has recommended that Clayman's loss license be suspended.
A report from the D.C.
Court of Appeals Board on Professional Responsibility Ad Hoc Hearing Committee, Jesus Christ, what an incredible name, alleges that Clayman made unprofessional romantic advances towards a woman he represented.
Oh yeah!
The committee's recommendations stem from Clayman's representation of Elham Sataki whom he helped file a 2010 sexual harassment suit against her then employer Voice of America.
Hey, you know how you were being harassed by these people?
Well, I'm gonna help you out.
During that time, the report says Clayman persuaded Sataki to move to Los Angeles and offered to pay for her housing and living expenses, telling Sataki she could later reimburse him.
Once in LA, Sataki allegedly refused to engage in a romantic relationship with Clayman.
At which point he increases demands for compensation to continue representing her sexual harassment claim.
So just poor woman betrayed by everyone.
Yeah.
Got it.
So he's fighting.
He's fighting the sexual harassment.
Bye.
Bye.
Sexually.
By doing some sort of sexual blackmail.
But here's the thing, when you read the report, he wasn't actually requesting a sexual relationship.
He wanted the girlfriend experience.
He wanted tailpicks.
He wanted her to rub his head and cook, maybe.
So the 183 page report itself is mortifying because it documents instances in which Clayman, who was 59 years old at the time of the incident, behaves like a teenage boy who is mad that a girl doesn't like him.
For example, in May of 2010, Clayman allegedly attended some L.A.
event with Sataki and then proceeded to have a public fight with her because she wasn't paying enough attention to him.
The report claims that Clayman then said this.
Why didn't you look at me?
Why are you so afraid that people are going to think that I'm your boyfriend?
Why are you so scared of that?
God.
Way into a woman's heart.
Whined about how she's not paying attention to you.
Yeah.
I can tell you that that is a winning strategy.
Yeah.
So that's basically Larry Klayman.
Or as the Jews call him, Golem!
But he is not the current president of Judicial Watch.
That's actually the responsibility of our swole king, Tom Fitton.
but I'm gonna let Brendan talk a little bit more about Tom.
All right, so here to talk about my big beefy boy, Tom Fitton, the current president of
Judicial Watch.
As far as I could tell, Bloomberg.com has him as the president of Judicial Watch since 1998.
And before he came on my radar, he had a bit of a fight, which is documented by Right Wing Watch with Larry Klayman.
And it featured, after Klayman, you know, left to do his Senate campaign in Florida, It says that he alleged that before departing as chairman he had discovered that Tom Fitton had never earned a college degree.
I don't think that's true, but also who care?
And Fitton, he alleged all these sort of odd claims about Fitton.
I'm just quoting from this Reckoning Watch article.
He had supposedly threatened media organizations with legal action to keep Klayman off the air, fired employees loyal to Klayman, and damaged his reputation with former clients.
The complaint also contended that Judicial Watch had lied in its tax forms by claiming that Klayman owed him money.
All the while, the organization's Warren Schaft Center fitness management shrunk to between $8 million and $9 million, down from about $20 million when Klayman left.
Now, Judicial Watch shot back with a counterclaim accusing Klayman of failing to cover the debts he had accumulated as chairman and of violating the terms of a severance agreement.
As part of his negotiated goodbye package, Judicial Watch had paid Klayman a total of $600,000, including $200,000 in return for signing a non-compete clause.
Good billionaire money.
Wow.
That's pretty good money.
This is just according to the counterclaim.
Yeah, especially for a hack like Klayman.
By Founding Freedom Watch, the article says, Clayman had violated that part of the contract the counterclaim stated.
I just, I gotta say, like, if this is true, I don't really, I don't follow the rest of this thing.
It's just an interesting aside for them with their little battle, but...
What an incredible power move to get almost a million dollars leaving an organization you founded called Judicial Watch and then just decide to violate, allegedly, your non-compete by starting Freedom Watch.
Yeah, based on the Aaron Sorkin fictionalized version of Judicial Watch that was used in a television show to make fun of you.
He basically was like, I'm gonna be a politician.
Fails horribly.
Take backseats on that company.
Jesus Christ.
They always eat their own.
Conspiratorial people always eat their own.
They can't get along because they're all so paranoid.
Yeah, it's true.
So that's just sort of your background on the Tom versus Clayman feud.
Tom is incredibly having a good one recently.
Trump loves him.
Apparently, according to this Politico article I found, which is from 2018, August 2018,
Trump and Tom had bumped into each other at CPAC recently, and Fitton is smart enough to go
on the president's favorite Fox business show, which is Lou Dobbs Tonight.
And what Fitton does is say just a complete, like 100%, I'm here for Trump,
defensive of anything that is happening.
When the Mueller report was going on, he waged war on Mueller and he said it's fair to ask whether Rod Rosenstein should be fired or in the least have to recuse himself.
He attacked Michael Cohen's testimony is not credible.
He actually said, this is funny from like a so-called transparency guy,
the Attorney General should be directing Mr. Mueller, I don't want you writing a dossier on President Trump.
There shouldn't be a document created is my point.
There ought to be an intervention to prevent this abuse.
So he actually didn't want even like a Mueller report to have anything like come out
for people to see in public.
And he started using more and more aggressive language saying that, you know, Democrats want to overthrow Trump and so does Mueller's team.
And then he started calling on Trump to, quote, just pardon everybody, you know, just have a field day, end quote.
As it relates to people caught in the Mueller investigation.
That fucking rules.
Hey, you thought of having a field day, Mr. President?
Putting on a big birthday hat?
That was on April 16th, 2018.
This is the best part of the quote.
It says, pardon them all dot dot dot.
Maybe some people who get away with crimes they otherwise should not have gotten away with.
But you know, I don't trust this Justice Department to investigate this fairly.
There we go.
I like the government until it stops doing what I want it to.
Yeah, exactly.
They're right until they're wrong.
It's a great summation of... I feel like the best summation of Fitton's political philosophy came from this tweet in 2018 that I remembered when I was digging up research for this.
He was wearing a shirt that, I think it's a Judicial Watch brand one, where on the back it just says, because no one is above the law, with an exclamation mark.
And literally a month prior he had said, just pardon everybody you know, just have a field day.
Yeah, these folks aren't the most self-aware.
But how'd that shirt look on him?
While we're on it, I mean, were there arm holes?
He could play Judge Dredd, I'm thinking.
I would love to see him in a Dredd remake.
I would, too.
My favorite bit, which I'm sure you guys are also fans of, is Tom's social media presence, which is, be it on the Judicial Watch official Twitter account or on his Reddit, Tom Fitton is literally just his username, I think.
Or Tom Fitton JW, I'm not sure.
He always jumps into the Donald and posts shit like, update guys, I'm doing this, and then everybody jumps into the comments and they're like, oh, our swole god boy!
Like, they love him so much.
They definitely do.
Yeah, his Instagram is probably the peak.
I love it.
It's so good.
Tom is charging a hundred bucks just to get the filters that he uses because they are There's no other filter that can turn you into a Borderlands 3 character.
He looks like Brick.
In exactly that fashion.
Yeah, I wonder what his stories are like.
He, um, my favorite thing that he's done is, there's actually two things he's done on Instagram.
And one is, uh, when he was posting sort of serious posts promoting, you know, whatever it is Judicial Watch was doing that day, he would throw in a sort of clever reference to how huge he is, where it would say like, like big lifting of government documents.
We have Peter Strzok text.
Oh my God.
This is such an Instagram thing, by the way, where, where like, I see, I see girls do it all the time where they're, they'll post something like, Like, ugh, can't believe my garbage disposal overflowed.
But then it's like a modeling pic of them in a bikini that has literally nothing to do with ... But they don't want to just be like, they don't want to be like, look at how good I look.
So Jake has just discovered the thirst trap.
Thank you for joining us on the internet.
Tom Fitton is 100% a thirst trap.
He's the right wing conspiracy theory thirst trap that we deserve.
Tom's most powerful thirst trap happened, I want to say, a couple months ago, where I think he went to the beach for vacation, but he celebrated this by posting a photo someone took of him, of him like kind of, you know, a couple feet into the water, and he's wearing just swim trunks, but he has his arms on his hips, and it's just like flared out back, looking thick, solid tight, keeping us up to date with progress pics and videos.
Yeah.
And what's cool is that he not only posted it and it's like, okay, you know, Tom's having a good time.
That's great.
Good for him.
He posted it multiple times with different filters.
Like he couldn't decide which was the best.
And there's like, there's nothing changed in the photo.
There's no like zooming in.
He's got to get it right.
He just wants to see, you know, like it's, you know, A-B testing.
Like he's just trying to figure out exactly.
Yeah, the post lab, you know, he just wants to, yeah.
He's in the post lab.
Yeah, he's in the post lab, you know, trying to figure out what's the dopest post.
What gets the most engagement?
You know, he's figuring it out.
He's just on the beach with his MacBook Air, just trying to get Wi-Fi.
From underneath an umbrella and points the camera towards him in the water.
Yeah, absolutely.
Dude, I'm looking at his Instagram right now, and his branding is absolute garbage.
There's not really a consistent color wave.
He doesn't really have sort of branded stories at the top.
Every picture is kind of the same distance away from him that just shows the top trunk of himself.
From his Instagram, you would not know, and I'm not exaggerating, that Tom Fitton has a pair of working legs.
I just got Travis to spit his coffee out.
Oh, man, that felt good.
Alright, sorry, Brendan, back to you, bud.
So, Tom caught my eye because of his social media posting and his, just, Lou Dobbs' warpath that he's waged, and it's only, it's only really gotten He's 100% just like committed to the bit with Trump.
He's absolutely, he's ready to go.
I'll just read you a couple of quotes recently and then I'd like to talk about where I think Tom first became Tom Fitton.
So just quick quotes.
The worst part of the impeachment inquiry is the protection of this alleged whistleblower.
Every Republican senator they need to get together and frankly a few honest Democrats to shut down this coup and say we're not going to take on an impeachment inquiry.
Trump should call back the Ukrainians, make sure that they're doing an investigation, and just straight up praising Trump for relying on Rudy Giuliani instead of people like Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman and Fiona Hill.
He also called for Roger Stone's pardon.
I mean, he's just out there.
He's committed to the bit.
He likes justice.
Yeah, he wants justice for criminals.
Justice for all.
Justice for criminals.
You know, it's literally no one is above the law unless the president's friends are above the law, in which case you should just, we should just sort of, you know, everybody gets one.
So I think Tom really became, like you could sort of see like this is what he'd be doing for the rest of his life in this thing that was on, something I didn't even know about until recently, which is called the National Empowerment Television Network.
The National Empowerment Television was founded in 1993 by Paul Weyrich.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
And it was a little bit before Fox News.
And Tom starred on a show called Youngbloods.
I'm begging the listeners of this show, please find me audio, video, anything of this show because I have scoured the internet for it.
I got nothing.
But I did find two reviews, one from the Washington Post in 1994 and one from the Baltimore Sun in 1995.
The 1994 Washington Post one, which is titled, Babes in the Pundits' Chairs.
What?
What?
It talks about Youngbloods, which it says, Tom Fitton, 26, the resident flamethrower, during a discussion about politics and religion, said, liberals steal from the rich because it's morally correct to give it to the poor.
When his co-panelist, Andrew Beebe, I think it's pronounced, said, that has nothing to do with God, Fitton simply responded, does so.
I mean, that's just high-quality banter, just rhetoric you cannot get anywhere else.
Incredible.
He's described in this 1994 review, which again, please God, get me video of this, as a star whose charming sneer and venomous rhetoric keep the show from falling into the dreaded policy drone.
Again, exactly what he does on LUDOPS tonight, like today in 2019.
And the review describes him thusly, which I think is probably...
The best description of his attempt to just radiate that Chad birdbrain energy which is, quote, he rears back, cocks his chin in a Buckley-esque pose of superiority and rips into liberals in their new age attitude.
Quote, to say that worshipping trees, rocks and spirit guides is a product of sophisticated questioning dot dot dot is the product of unclear thinking and anti-Christian bias end quote.
His jaw juts forward.
Which is just, if you could find something in that.
We're working without context here, no video, but like, powerful.
I have no idea what that means.
At all.
No.
I just found a meme on his Instagram that just has him looking at documents and it says, Tom Fitton doesn't read books.
He stares them down until he gets the information he needs.
Yes!
Which just means he looks at the books, the outside of them, and then you have to believe that he's taken it all in.
He looks at the outside for seven minutes and then Yeah, he telepathically absorbs the information.
It doesn't necessarily have to be inside the book.
It's just what ends up in his head after staring at it.
In the actual meme he's looking at papers, not a book.
And also his comment here is, fun meme from a follower over on Twitter.
Twitter.
I wonder if he makes his girlfriend or wife take all of his photos for him.
He's like, babe, babe, could you just get a shot of me looking at these sheets of paper?
She's like, ah, again?
He actually, he really loves memes about him and recently was retweeting a bunch on Twitter.
And my favorite one is like, I don't know if this was like a QAnon Magamom or, you know, some weird like alt writer.
Don't know.
But one of them was just a Pepe unzipping its head and Tom's extremely angry face peering out from the inside like it was taken off a Halloween costume.
And that one I actually saved.
I kind of like that one.
It's pretty the Frog and the Prince, man.
It's a classic tale as old as time.
That sounds like the Donald kind of material.
Yeah, I'm sure.
These guys are so stoked because, like, their entire life and entire careers in existence, they've been made fun of, told that they're dumb, you know, a judge fucking put him down and was like, you're a shitty lawyer, you can't.
And now because, because Because of the MAGA movement they're heroes and so of
course like that's the most dangerous That's the most in some ways
That's the most dangerous thing is you have all these people who are essentially like
Societies like rejects that are now that are now hoisted up onto pedestals
Yeah, and and to top it all off have the fucking confidence to continue to be like totally
Incurable pieces of shit because there's a huge group of people that's fucking everyday being look. Oh boy. Yeah, go
get them Tom Fitton is in the Guinness Book of Records for manually installing the impact font more than anybody else in the history of mankind.
When you see Tom Fitton walking around, there's actually just a hovering bit of text below his face just as bottom text and nobody knows why it's there.
It's just always there.
Yeah, I thought you were gonna say that he's just like a hovering trunk with no legs.
He's just got two rocket jets coming out of the bottom of his fucking torso.
Absolutely.
He's just, he's so powerful.
Other quotes from this show, which please, I'm begging you, please God help me find this thing.
It says Craig Bowman, the openly homosexual liberal panelist, quote, Pat Robertson is an evil man to me as a gay man.
He wants to exterminate my people, end quote.
The conservatives in unison, that's not true.
Bowman, I'm a Christian too.
And then Fitton just responded, Craig, the majority of people have moral problems with your behavior as a homosexual.
It's wild that he could just say that on TV.
Yeah.
And it's also wild that he's still around after saying that.
From what I can gather of this show, he was just rude.
Like in the other review, they call him a bomb thrower who said, abolishing the EPA would be the best thing for the environment.
I have a feeling if we didn't have the EPA, we would find a way to take care of ourselves.
This is powerful.
Big brain shit.
That is definitely some Richard Malinskafe ghost-written stuff.
It's like, what would you say to debate Tom when his responses are either just, no, or actually, no, it's fine.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you have any questions about Tom specifically that you would like me to answer?
Yeah, what's his arm routine like?
I have tweeted at him, I've asked for his lifting routine, no response.
He has retweeted one of the videos I posted where he was on Lou Dobbs and I quoted him saying something stupid or awful.
I don't know why he retweeted me, I legitimately don't understand.
Because he's proud.
Because in this beautiful world we live in, the thing you think is damning is actually something to be celebrated on his side.
And also, yeah, when you lose, you actually win.
And when somebody's making fun of you, it's actually... You're being celebrated.
Yeah, they're being celebrated and praised.
It's called judo guys.
You're a part of a major media organization, that's good press for Tom.
Always winning, never losing.
They call you a snooty, Latinate insult, deplorable.
You call yourself that.
It's called judo, guys.
Have you heard of the martial art?
So Chris Farrell is a Judicial Watch employee.
I'm pretty sure he's still with them, but he got banned from Fox News and Fox Business altogether because he falsely accused George Soros of masterminding a caravan of migrants headed toward the U.S.
border from Central America.
Sounds like something Soros might do.
Yeah.
So, this is from our article, Lew Dobsonite and Fox's Standards for Antisemitic and Bigoted Commentary, written by Matt Gertz.
He's great.
But what happened was, Thursday's episode of Lew Dobsonite was rebroadcast on Saturday night, hours after a gunman murdered 11 people at a Pittsburgh synagogue.
In that context, Farrell's description of the caravan is funded by the, quote, Soros-occupied State Department, end quote, caught the eye of Josh Marshall, editor and publisher of TPM, whose tweet generated a firestorm on Twitter when he noticed its similarities to the, quote, Zionist-occupied government rhetoric common to neo-Nazi literature.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
And I guess that guy is just still at Judicial Watch.
I think he's been mentioned by Dobbs after the ban, which is, I can't believe they let him just get away with that.
Dude, we've got Jesse Waters on Fox News being like, now, but isn't QAnon kind of interesting?
Like, none of it matters anymore.
Say a fucking anti-Semitic thing, keep your job, and gain more followers.
It's so nuts that in conservative media they just fail upwards.
There's not really a way in which I've seen any conservative be held accountable in the long term barring Bill O'Reilly getting pushed out and just being forced to go on a website.
Right.
But even then that was after he cost Fox News tens of millions of dollars.
Yeah.
And he still, by the way, he still complains about that as if it was unfair.
And like Sean Hannity even recently asked for him to come back as though Hannity has the power to hire one of the most reviled and just disgusting former Fox News hosts.
Absolutely disgraced.
They are going to be fine.
They're going to get bigger, and it's going to be better.
And our life is going to get better.
See?
What?
I like your thinking now.
Thank you.
That's good.
There we go.
Just take the black pill.
I've decided just to be an optimist about it all.
I think, you know, like you always have boomers telling you that technology is going to fix the environment someday, just because that's how human evolution is going to work?
True.
Well, that's how I feel about this politics.
They're all heading towards something good.
You know?
In fact, in fact, Did Labor lose or did they win in a way?
I think it was a landslide win for them.
Right.
Do they have a minority or actually a secret majority?
Secret majority.
I'm going to go, I'm going to do like real lefty QAnon.
Like I'm going to pretend that we now have like dem socialists at the heads of all major governments.
Yeah, you're right.
And I'm just going to take it from there.
Well, I'm going to just pretend that everyone's sort of like rational.
Everyone could pretend that the discourse is healthy.
Obama took office on the second day he prosecuted the Bush administration, person by person, for all of their war crimes.
They're now all in jail, or wearing ankle monitors.
Secret ankle monitors.
And while we're playing this game, you know what?
I'm going to go ahead and pretend that I've been wrong about everything that I've said for the last three years, that I've garnished ridicule from all of my friends.
Well, Brendan, thank you so much for joining us and casting a light on two of the biggest guns I've ever seen.
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
You know, I want to baby oil this man right up.
And yeah, I mean, I feel kind of bummed out that he hasn't posted any proper nudes because I think he would look good.
I would pay for a calendar of just Tom Fitton in different pro-justice poses.
Look, Julian, we've discussed this.
He does not do below the waist.
I'll take upper body.
I do have one request of you guys, which is, could you figure out, like, what do the QAnon MAGA parents think of Tom?
Like, is he venerated?
Is he just seen as a source of information?
Yeah, I mean, they like his angle on things.
In the same sense that they like Hannity, but he's not really a central figure.
I mean, sort of the people that QAnon people really like are like Sarah Carter.
Solomon.
Yeah, John Solomon.
So, I mean, yeah, they like Fitton, but they like him okay, you know?
Yeah, yeah, he's okay.
So people can follow you at bad underscore takes on Twitter?
Yeah.
Very misleading.
He does good tweets.
Thanks, man.
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And now, today's Auto-Tune.
This week on Q&A, we continue our look at government watchdog groups.
This week features Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, Tom Fenton, can you remember when you first got interested in corruption?
Well, it was during the Clinton administration.
I thought the Clinton administration was terribly corrupt.
I was running my own website at the time.
Blogging before blogging was cool.
It was called Opinion Inc.
And I thought it was just extraordinary that you had credible allegations that the Clinton
