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	Hello and welcome to the second episode of QAnon Anonymous.
	My name is Jake and I'm here with Julian.
	I like, pedophile, you know, and it just seems to tie all of that together.
	Hello, and welcome to the second episode of QAnon Anonymous.
	My name is Jake F*, and I'm here with Julian F*.
	Last week I re-listened to, you know, and edited the episode, and...
	I'm going easy on you, man.
	You think?
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm not going hard enough on you.
	Well, I think you're trying to hide some of the nasty bits, and then I'm trying to go a little easy on you.
	So to the listener, it's gonna feel a little bit like we're working towards the center.
	I say we... Yeah, we... Let's let our respective flags fly.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And the reason I think we ignore some of the nastiness is because that's not the interesting part.
	It's not very interesting.
	But we should touch on it just because we should at least attempt to give a full image of both believable things and absurd things.
	Because the more I read about Q, the less I realize what you're saying is really what's on most people's minds.
	They're on some luciferin, pedophilic ring, Right.
	Next-level shit.
	You're giving me some bullshit.
	Some watered-down, milk-toast bullshit.
	Because, I mean, as funny and fun as some of the Luciferian, like, Illuminati shit is, you know, interesting, to me that's... I think that's kind of boring.
	To me, the actual sort of espionage stuff is far more interesting.
	and just the level to which the government is corrupt that I never really knew,
	that I never really knew, and I suspect that you've known all along just based on.
	Well, no, I mean, I just read things and then I get enraged.
	I mean, it's not a political stance.
	But I haven't.
	I mean, what really got me into politics really was Bernie Sanders.
	It was the first time I ever donated to a campaign before.
	Ever.
	And as you know, I'm not a wealthy man.
	In fact, I'm an unwealthy man.
	I really loved Bernie.
	I mean, a fucking bird landed on his podium while he was giving a speech.
	I mean, what more of a sign do you really need?
	An hour later that bird was dead.
	An hour later that bird was dead.
	Well, an hour later that bird was attempted to be made an Instagram star and when it refused, I mean, I can definitely see the listeners saying, hey, these are a couple Bernie bros.
	What the fuck do they have to do with discussing the Democratic Party and or the right?
	But I think there's a little more complexity than that.
	And certainly, I mean, I'm not American, so that complicates things a little.
	And you do have a weird obsession with the right that I'm trying to figure out.
	And I have been trying to figure out over our friendship, over the course of our friendship.
	Well, it's because I never really noticed them before.
	You know, I was not I wasn't into Paula.
	I was kind of like living my life.
	And, you know, I was working, you know, working 40, 60 hour weeks and not being able to make enough money to afford, you know, a decent, you know, decent living.
	And I just thought that that was kind of how the cookie crumb crumbled, crumbled.
	Crumbled!
	That was how the cookie crumbled.
	I was trying to think if crumbled was the correct, uh, was the correct tense.
	Um, and somehow crumbled came out.
	Yeah.
	But, but, but let's, let's get into this because I, I think that Seth Rich in a lot of ways sort of, sort of explains How I got to from, you know, and I'm still obviously like totally, you know, a progressive individual, but like how I sort of became disillusioned a little bit and, you know, it starts with Bernie Sanders and it started with finding out that
	Not only were my donations, like, had nothing, you know, weren't even going, really, to his campaign, they were going to the DNC, which was then being funneled back into Clinton's campaign.
	Oh, you donated through them?
	Yeah.
	Oh, boy.
	Is this where all the rage comes from?
	So, when it came out, and when I found out that he was never had a chance, that he was... They put a finger on the scale.
	Yeah, that they put a finger on the scale.
	It really, really bugged me because I was like, here is a chance for somebody to come in and make a real change.
	Yeah.
	And they're not even gonna let the people sort of decide this.
	As the story goes with QAnon, something very similar happened to this young man who was working for the DNC and his name was Seth Rich.
	So this is a man who died in Washington?
	This is a man who was murdered in Washington, D.C.
	So we know it was a murder.
	We know it was a murder.
	We know it was in Washington.
	We know it was in Washington.
	The murder is unsolved as of this moment.
	But I thought the family kind of knew what happened.
	There's a lot of the family just going, please leave me alone.
	And then I remember also a Fox News guy like jumping on this as if it were fact and really spreading it.
	Right.
	What's his name?
	Hannity?
	Yeah Hannity and then he had to retract it.
	The interesting thing about the Seth Rich sort of conspiracy is there are so many like hats in the you know in the circle like so many people because you've got you've got like guys like Hannity and then you've got these other like kind of like independent investigators like what was that guy's name like um But who would want this fella dead and why?
	Forget any logic.
	Let's go straight to what Q says.
	Q alleges that it was not the Russians who released the DNC emails to WikiLeaks, that it was actually this young man named Seth Rich who worked in DNC voter data.
	He worked for the DNC and he was in charge of their voter data and polling data and that kind of stuff.
	They have, by the way, they've infiltrated like many many different areas and all governments do that to other
	governments.
	So why wouldn't it be believable that Seth Rich was a Russian asset and then he became a liability once that data
	was delivered?
	I mean that is totally possible.
	Because it's way more the modus operandi of the Russians to kill someone in broad daylight in a city than it is the DNC's.
	Right.
	Now, I actually, I'm one of the weird people who, who, I think that it, there seems some plausibility at the very least to the fact that Seth Rich was actually the one to leak these, and I'll get into that in a little bit.
	I do not think that the DNC then had him murdered.
	Um, there's just too much of a trail, you know what I mean?
	It's not worth it.
	The guy who, if it does come out, that leaked your stuff, and then he's dead a week later.
	I feel like if any element within the DNC or even Hillary's camp were to go that far, it would be to prevent something, not to punish.
	Right.
	Why would they kill to punish?
	It makes no sense.
	Well, there is an email that was released from John Podesta that said something along the lines of, You know, I'm game for making an example of a leaker, whether it has any basis or not.
	So that's being the Obama line for eight years.
	I mean, they never murdered anyone.
	They just cast them out.
	They let them linger in detention cells.
	Yeah, I don't think they... I don't think they... He was the worst for whistleblowers.
	That doesn't sound like murder to me.
	Yeah, I don't think they murdered him.
	Now, Q has made Allegations that there are a couple things.
	Well, and there's a couple interesting things around the murder.
	One, there were two FBI agents very close by whose guns were reported stolen.
	Right.
	And that's on the record.
	You can look that up.
	There's other allegations, and I've looked a little bit, and some stuff I find is not so credible.
	other stuff. It's really hard to find information on Seth Rich that isn't immediately like
	baseless crazy Seth Rich conspiracy is. You know every article when you search
	on Google that's the first thing that comes up so it's really tough
	to find any sort of non-partisan sort of information.
	Anyone who got interested in Seth Rich, it's a bit of a weird thing to get interested in.
	It's like more of a side note.
	It's 100% QAnon invented that he would be connected to the leaks of these emails.
	This could literally just be a staffer who was murdered and that sucks.
	And that sucks, but there's some other circumstantial stuff.
	Okay, so listen to this.
	So early on, so right before anybody sort of had a chance to say like, I can't believe, how dare you use this young man as, and I agree with that to some extent, especially if he had nothing, you know, if he had nothing to do with any of this.
	You're kind enough to allow the family some peace?
	Yeah, but the thing is, is that there was reports from his girlfriend, very early on, from statements that sort of made their way out into the internet.
	They could be false, they could be made up, they could be... Because his murder happened around the time of the election, which is a year before Q even spoke.
	Right, but his murder happened, I believe, ten days after...
	His murder was very close in relation to when WikiLeaks went public with...
	There's other information that I've been digging through that shows just
	WikiLeaks kind of activating... That's true. Like dirt digging after it looked
	bad for Trump. Like that there were some statements he made that were
	really not ringing well.
	WikiLeaks did put out a reward for information leading to Seth Rich's killer.
	It was a decent amount of money.
	It was $50,000 or something like that.
	It's been proven from the logs that I've read through of Wikileaks that got leaked, funnily enough, that Julian Assange was openly saying Trump would be the better candidate, we should make an effort to help him win because he thought Hillary Clinton was a vindictive, Yeah, he thought that she was a psychopath.
	He was enemies with her, basically.
	They'd been jousting for years.
	She was on the record as saying in a meeting, she turned to somebody when they were talking about Assange and said, can't we just drone this guy?
	But that shows, I guess, what level... It's like, this is not a person who...
	goes behind closed doors and organizes a murder.
	They just openly wonder if they can drone someone who's basically legally considered an enemy of the state.
	Same thing with Snowden.
	I'm not convinced.
	I have not seen enough evidence or enough even circumstantial evidence to think that Hillary Clinton ordered the murder.
	But that is what QAnon believes.
	Well, that the DNC is... Implicit.
	Yeah, he is implicit in it.
	He's never specifically said... There's been drops... I'm sorry, I actually used the wrong word.
	I meant implicated.
	There are drops that are stuff that says like basically like servers, like unlocks, SR, you know, talking about Seth Rich, that's saying basically that somewhere on that server that they tried to bleach bit and they tried to wipe, that there is evidence that Without a doubt shows that the DNC was implicated in the thing.
	What shows me that they're just, I don't believe that to me, is that those finally leaked emails, it showed a shitty two-faced political class.
	It showed incompetence.
	It showed, you know, bravado that they shouldn't have had because they hadn't done the groundwork.
	but it doesn't show like uh... acting like dark cunning criminal it's a real morons
	yet agree i i totally agree and they have to extract like a pedophilia
	ring from that and create pizza gate uh... conspiracy as the story goes
	who at least at least based on i'd believe one of the first statements that
	sets girlfriend gave was that he was working in voter registration data
	he was a huge bernie supporter and and people have gone back and actually
	look found his old social media accounts on twitter read it all sorts of stuff
	and yet it's that seems like the case He seems like a major Bernie Sanders supporter.
	I mean, if he's into the 30, that's not unusual?
	Yeah, totally.
	Loved America.
	I mean, every picture you see of this guy, he's wearing basically the American flag, shorts, shirt, you know, bandana.
	That's weird just because I don't see Bernie as a nationalist particularly.
	Fourth of July was his favorite holiday.
	Wait, so he sounds like a fucking nerd.
	He's just another lanyard nerd.
	He's just another political nerd.
	And so what the statement is, what her statement was I can't actually remember if it was her or his brother.
	The story goes that Seth Rich found out that they were fucking over Bernie Sanders supporters.
	He found out that they were giving Sanders supporters who registered through the DNC
	as opposed to Sanders organization, they were actually sending them to Hillary voting locations.
	I can't remember exactly what the details.
	There was some real shady shit.
	And he found this out, and he found this out, and he was such a Bernie Sanders guy, and he was such an America guy.
	This is the theory.
	This is the theory.
	As I said, as the story goes.
	And so, he found this out, and basically was like, no, fuck, because this was before Wikileaks was evil.
	This was when people still, I think, somewhat respected Wikileaks because they- Yeah, they were whistleblowers.
	They had blown open the bush, yeah.
	You couldn't yet see that Julian Assange was such a- In the tank for Trump.
	Well, not just that, but also that he was a profoundly selfish and self-interested man, that he had an agenda.
	Of course.
	Well, and he's also been holed up in that, you know, the, uh, the Ecuadorian embassy for God knows how long with no access to internet and all that, all that shit.
	And so it makes sense, you know.
	You can see that he's got his own agenda and things that he wants to do, and clearly it wasn't going to happen under Hillary Clinton.
	So, you know, I think people like Putin and other world leaders, they were like, you know, we are more than willing to roll the dice on this crazy Donald Trump dude.
	That makes sense because... Because we know what we're going to get with Clinton.
	But it's also a counterintelligence operation.
	It's like the biggest, most easy counterintelligence operation you can.
	You create chaos in the country by basically helping them elect the dumbest, craziest person possible.
	Look, who knows?
	The Russian government could easily have been monitoring everybody in the DNC.
	I think they definitely had people.
	And they saw that Seth Rich was disappointed or disillusioned in what he found out and could very well have used him and said, hey, we're going to help you get this message out.
	And the moment that he was no longer an asset, they killed it.
	Like, I can see a path to that as well.
	It's possible.
	I'm willing to entertain it.
	I think what's so interesting about this is it's so annexed to, I think, the center of what the Q conspiracy is because the idea that he leaked these emails and then was killed.
	Are you saying that in that FISA, because last week we talked about the potential of Trump releasing this FISA, that we would find some sort of trace of Seth Rich being murdered?
	I don't know.
	There's no indication.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	There's no indication of that.
	It's more just about the wiretapping of a guy who was Pretty much an asset anyways, right?
	An FBI asset?
	Right.
	Okay, so how is that connected?
	Why is Seth Rich so important to this story?
	Because if it is true that Seth Rich did leak these documents, and it was an insider leak, and it was not the Russian infiltration, then what we have is we've got the DNC basically saying, Fuck, like one of our own guys like leaked this shit.
	This looks terrible.
	Can we get somebody in?
	Can we make this look like a Russian?
	Can we say it's a Russian hack?
	Can we say it's an intrusion?
	Can we use this, you know, to, you know, can we use this to our advantage?
	It could also very well be that, you know, that Seth Rich leaked this information and the Russians also hacked the DNC.
	I don't necessarily think it's one or the other.
	I think at the end of the day there was a collection of information on Assange's part, whether it was from Seth Rich or the Russians, like who cares?
	I think what's more interesting in this story is not really Seth Rich and who murdered him because he's probably not, I mean, it's the kind of thing where people love to speculate, but what's important to focus on is more WikiLeaks.
	WikiLeaks tried to play an active role in winning it for Trump, and then So that's something we now know, I think, from examining the logs.
	Right.
	And who knows?
	WikiLeaks could have been in cahoots with Rush.
	I mean, who knows?
	I mean, I think WikiLeaks accepts leaks from anybody.
	That's the problem with WikiLeaks.
	I'd say a mix of manipulatable, like as in you give them the information that's going to be profitable for you to have released, whereas you don't give them the rest.
	Right.
	So they can be used for, and then also he chooses what he releases and doesn't.
	And if it's expedient for what he wants, he does.
	I mean, I know he had, he probably had a lot of dirt on Trump.
	I'm sure he did.
	I mean, it's not hard.
	The guy literally is like... I mean, he said that... He leaves a trail of tapes where he says the N-word and or says that you can just grab women by their vaginas.
	I mean, the guy is not hard to dig dirt on.
	No.
	It's just he redefined what dirt can do to a political candidate.
	Right.
	He literally said, I could go to a crowded street, Times Square, and shoot somebody and it wouldn't change my voter base.
	And he was right.
	That's the thing, he's correct.
	The problem is, I'm sorry man, but there's no way that if you look at Trump and you see an anti-establishment figure that I think you're connected to reality.
	I totally agree.
	Your mind is unmoored.
	You know what it is?
	It's you are comparing, you are making a comparison between anti-establishment and political outsider.
	Yes.
	He's a political outsider, but he's 100% in the system.
	He knows how to work the system.
	He's been doing it for his entire life.
	He's a grifter.
	He's a professional grifter.
	Yeah, I totally agree with that.
	So what's interesting is the former head of National Intelligence, this guy, This guy, his name is William Binney, and he was... Oh, I know about him.
	He was the head of national security or something.
	I mean, pretty high up.
	So he formed this group called VIPS in 2003, and it's a group of former intelligence officers from the CIA, the FBI, the NSA.
	And they basically analyzed the data, and they put this report out.
	You can actually find it.
	You can Google it.
	You have to search, dig a little bit.
	You can Google it.
	QAnon is true, and then whatever you're looking for.
	And then whatever you're looking for.
	Doesn't matter.
	Just do QAnon right about, and then put your question in, and you'll usually find... I mean, that's how people argue nowadays.
	They Google what their opinion is, and it's the first article that seems to sort of... Yeah, they send it.
	Yeah, they send it, and they go... It's true.
	I've won the argument now, because I've shared an article written by somebody else that aligns with my belief.
	And half the time it's an opinion piece.
	Yeah, it's always an opinion piece.
	Or there's no investigative journalism at that place and that place just has a stake.
	And the funniest thing too is when you send somebody something and they'll write back, ugh, opinion piece.
	You're like, God.
	Well, wait.
	I agree.
	Opinion pieces are mostly stupid.
	I know, but they'll send you an opinion piece that aligns with their opinion.
	And this is proof of fact.
	And when you send one back, it's just an opinion piece.
	What opinion piece are you still scarred from having sent?
	None.
	Okay.
	So this is... and this is so funny because the website that this article I'm looking at that's reporting on this William Binney report has a huge disclaimer at the beginning saying, we do not necessarily believe that...
	But the report is very interesting and one thing that it found was that the speed at which the data was transferred from the DNC server to wherever the destination was, was much closer to downloading onto a USB drive as opposed to a remote hack.
	Yeah, and I think it is, but that's how most dirt digging goes.
	And I think looking at the history of infiltration and spying, there's going to be somebody in every Presidential race that is an agent of a big foreign power.
	And I guarantee you, whether or not there's any indication of that, if any information comes out that gives credence whatsoever to the fact that the DNC was sort of implicit or complicit in Seth Rich's... Implicated in, yeah.
	Yeah, I guarantee the cycle will be that he was a Russian agent, and oh, he was working for Putin.
	But I think that would make sense.
	It would make sense, which is why they would run with it.
	I think it's possible that Seth gave it to WikiLeaks, or it's possible that Seth gave it to Russia, who gave it to WikiLeaks.
	Right.
	Because you have to remember, these people are getting paid a lot of money for being these kind of agents.
	And by the way, historically it's pretty funny, because one of the problems with Chinese-American Relations that I was just reading about was that the CIA
	fucked up their communications protocol To their spy network in China. Yeah, and China went
	basically one by one just executing Over two years they executed like almost all of them. Yeah
	all of the They got they smuggled out a few of them
	But like that just goes to show how like every country and definitely every like, you know race for presidency and
	campaign will always have at least one guy.
	Dude, it's the knock list from Mission Impossible 1, the first one.
	I mean it's the knock list from any spy movie.
	At first I was like oh man that would be an awesome movie of like you know like the last spy realizes that all of his buddies are compromised and like they're coming for him and then I was like wait a minute, knock list, Mission Impossible.
	I wonder if that 60 year old could play in it.
	Guaranteed he could.
	Oh, he's available!
	Cool!
	Of course he's available.
	He'll produce it.
	Yeah, that's all he does.
	He's fantastic.
	We love him.
	We love Tom Cruise here on the podcast.
	I love him, at least.
	You seem to love actors with really dubious organizational ties and also awful actions in their life.
	It's just like I'm fascinated by this.
	I mean, it's the same part of my brain gets, you know, gets fucking squeezed.
	Yeah, Mel Gibson chases somebody around a table with a baseball bat.
	You hear the story, you're like, Amazing.
	I'm like, damn, when's Apocalypto II coming out?
	He looks at his wife and he's like, I hope you get...
	sexually assaulted by a pack of n-words and you're just like, and your cognitive dissonance kicks in and you're like, don't understand, can't hear anything, Mad Max 1, Mad Max 2.
	He's such a piece of shit.
	And the funny thing is, I know he hates me.
	As a Jew, I know that he hates me.
	He doesn't want me.
	He doesn't want my, if anything, if I, you know, went and saw his movies, he'd be like, good, I'm getting his money.
	So anyways, when I think about this whole thing, this whole Seth Rich thing, I think back to, I believe it was Sony, and they had a movie coming out.
	It was Seth Rogen and James Franco.
	Yes, this North Korean thing?
	What was it called?
	The Dictator?
	It's an awful movie, by the way.
	I actually saw it.
	Not funny.
	I never saw it.
	I heard it was not great.
	But I remember that they had claimed that North Korea had actually hacked the Sony servers and put out all of these emails and all this stuff.
	And there was a big sort of political rabble-rousing around it.
	Tensions were high with North Korea.
	Were we going to go to war with North Korea over this stupid fucking movie?
	Yeah, they didn't know that later someone would call him Rocket Boy or whatever.
	Little Rocket Man or whatever.
	Eight months later, it very, very quietly sort of came out that it was just a disgruntled IT guy who had downloaded all of the shit onto a fucking flash drive and sent it to whoever and leaked it.
	But to be fair to that movie and to Sony, it was a much better PR campaign to have them at war with Korea.
	It absolutely worked in their favor.
	The Americans are like, that's so much better than like, your company sucks so bad that people want to leak this stuff.
	To some degree.
	Now there's another interesting Seth Rich theory that has to do with the DNC IT guy who's been indicted by the FBI.
	His name is Imran Awan, who was Debbie Wasserman Schultz's like main IT guy for years.
	And like 40 other Democrats he did IT for.
	And he and his family, he flew his brothers in from Pakistan.
	They did a tremendous amount of work for the DNC and they were paid very well.
	Sounds like a normal employment.
	Yeah, the highest thing.
	Now, he's been indicted for bank fraud and money laundering.
	Kind of similar in some ways to the Manafort charges, but it's kind of... I mean, you have to dig for that information as well.
	You don't have to dig very far for Manafort, though.
	You can go and find all that great information.
	Yeah, you can go and find that right at the top of the search bar.
	If you want to see a nice ostrich coat that costs $15,000 because he doesn't understand laundering money through clothes is not smart.
	Yeah.
	Oh God, we've really traded like barely savvy people for Complete morons. Yeah, like that's the only change that
	happened So so with so Imran so Imran Ahwan
	Q alleges that he and his family have connections Through Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood. I have no
	idea really Are they some sort I'm gonna go ahead and say right now
	that is so dumb That's like if you take all your GI Joes from different
	sets that are not even in the same Storyline and you just throw them all together like you
	yeah, well It's the Muslim Brotherhood!
	Anyways, Q alleges, and apparently Huma Abedin has some family that's over there that has connections to it, whatever.
	This is bad storytelling, by the way.
	When your racist grandpa could, like, make the same ties, when he's just like, this name looks Muslim, this name looks Muslim, and the Muslim Brotherhood is a thing.
	Huma Abedin and this group of IT guys don't sound like Muslim extremists at all.
	They just sound like profiteering rich people.
	Yeah, but who knows?
	Maybe they got family or whatever.
	The Muslim Brotherhood is a very specific organization that has specific goals.
	It is the religious extreme, even where it is.
	Yeah, because I don't really know anything about it.
	If you research the Muslim Brotherhood, you'll realize it makes no sense.
	It would be like saying, these guys are Hispanic.
	They probably have ties to MS-13.
	Which is later in the conspiracy theory.
	I think there are going to be points where I just go, this is so dumb.
	Tenuous racist connections between things that sound Muslim and are Muslim.
	Come on, let's do better than that.
	Let's find a better conspiracy here.
	Well, I'm just saying that this is part of the drop, and this is one of the theories surrounding Seth Rich's death.
	There's a photograph that was taken of him the night he died, and Imran Awan is also in the picture.
	So what?
	They worked in the same office.
	They worked in the same- It's like the IT guy getting a photo with the intern.
	But if the IT guy is money laundering and fucking breaking a ton of laws and doesn't want- They all are!
	And doesn't want to get caught, and there's a young- and there's a young man who he knows is- has download- you know, has downloaded the emails that may or may not expose him, that might give you motive.
	Wow.
	This is a stretch, my man.
	It might give you motive.
	I'm just saying.
	This is such a stretch.
	I mean... Anyways, that's one of the theories.
	The other... Everybody commits some form of financial fraud in this country.
	To even say that about somebody just makes them American, essentially.
	The President's been caught over and over not paying people and committing fraud in a variety of ways.
	He had a school that was shut down for it.
	I get it.
	I think you're right.
	I think that it's a stretch.
	I'm just trying to give you all the angles of everything that's out there.
	One of the other theories is that he was killed by two MS-13 members who were later murdered.
	Just run me through all the racist dumb shit.
	That's dumb as hell.
	You know, there's one of the things that Q alleges is that the DNC and Hillary use MS-13 as their sort of like kill squad or whatever.
	That is so dumb.
	My God.
	So that's it.
	So that's basic.
	That is dumber than saying Trump uses the KKK as his kill squad.
	It's like less believable.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, it's so ridiculous.
	I mean, that shit is so ridiculous to me.
	I totally agree with you.
	For me, the only thing that is believable to me on any level is he was a disenfranchised dude with the DNC.
	He thought he could make a difference.
	He had access to the information.
	Because that's how I felt when I found out that the DNC was fucking over Bernie Sanders.
	I felt the same way.
	And so it's interesting because on the one hand, there is so much, I think there's so much doubt over the Seth Rich portion of it.
	I find it almost like a bit of a side note.
	It's like who cares how that information gets to WikiLeaks?
	Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.
	There's a bunch of different things sucking up information and at some point it gets funneled up to WikiLeaks.
	They decide to use the side that they want to win.
	What happens though, dude, if like this if you know, whatever this the server comes out and there is like hard
	evidence We're left with a shitty guy who looks like he saved the United States from certain doom.
	Only to the percent of the population that's being completely brainwashed.
	I think, I think if he was the one to really, and I could be totally wrong, like, you know, maybe I'm out of touch, but I think if he were to reveal something really, really bad that I think that some of the middle, the middle on the fence kind of people would go, Oh man, well I had a feeling that You know the DNC was was bad but I didn't know that it was this bad and oh man and Trump was the one to reveal it so oh I guess he's like kind of like dear leader.
	You know what I mean?
	I think even if he doesn't do that he has a good shot at second four years.
	I think he does absolutely.
	So I don't even I don't it really does not matter I think.
	What's sad to me is that behind Trump and you know whatever you think about him is the same Republican Party trying to do the same things they've tried for years and doing it very well and very quickly.
	Right.
	Which is really fucked up.
	Very well and very quickly.
	Yeah, they're really dismantling everything.
	I know, we could totally take a page from those guys in just how ruthless you really have to be.
	I'm not saying, hey, become a person of low moral standards.
	I'm saying, know that politics is a ruthless game and that people, like, it doesn't matter if Obama points like, yeah, like we said last week, a kind of half-Republican The Republicans won't be nicer to you afterwards.
	They still hate you.
	They're still getting more extreme.
	You're trying to court people who think you're a Muslim extremist.
	You're not really discussing.
	And now it's even more farther down, except now this kind of brain disease has taken on the left as well.
	So now you have these people who are like diehard Hillary people who just hate Bernie Sanders and think he's like a violent misogynist.
	And at the same time, they believe the Russian government is possibly working with Bernie to let—it's just like this depth that you only used to get in right-wing conspiracies.
	What I'm worried about is that everybody's entering into a phase where they're in complete fantasy.
	Right, and what's interesting to see happen, especially with Manafort's trial going on, is that there was so much buildup about, oh yeah, Manafort, this is the first domino that's going to crumble and all this stuff, and yet— But it's boring!
	He's just another grifter rich person.
	He's just a piece of shit rich person that was just trying to make a couple extra bucks and game the system.
	That's the problem.
	The real story's not interesting.
	And it has nothing to do with Trump.
	He was a campaign advisor for three months or whatever.
	It literally has nothing to do... No, it has everything to do with the fact that Trump surrounds himself with, yes, people who are criminals.
	Well that's true.
	It speaks to his campaign, it speaks to his morality, and it speaks to the way he runs the country.
	To his credit, he did fireman a fort as soon as it became clear that his criminality could be a threat to Donald Trump.
	Of course.
	But he just likes firing people.
	He loves it.
	His whole career is based on firing people.
	But he won't just fire them for being criminals, he'll fire them because they looked weak out there when they go out in front of the press.
	And the result is One of the worst relationships with the press that I've ever seen.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	Saying that the press is the enemy of the people and just shit that's, to me, is so fascist and so insane.
	And I'm not saying that the press isn't bought and paid for.
	Everyone can have their doubts about, you know, angles or whatever, but to start to say that the entire press... Right, it's the language.
	It's the language of, you know, and to bring up something that's, that happened really recently, like, When, uh, the whole thing that went down with Omarosa, and let's, we'll get back to, like, awesome Q shit.
	So much great Omarosa stuff.
	So much great Omarosa, but you really see, um, you really see how Trump sort of navigates this kind of stuff because, you know, you have the tape released of him getting the call from her, and he sounds like he's genuinely concerned.
	He's like, what happened?
	I thought you're, oh, well, I'm sorry to hear that.
	I'm sorry to hear that.
	Ah, that's too bad.
	Well, he's talking to a black woman, so he talks to them like children.
	I mean, he's an insane person.
	I listened to the tape.
	Whatever.
	I didn't think too much of it.
	He didn't sound horrible to me, at least in that moment.
	But then he releases this tweet where he calls her a dog, which I think is not only so fucking racist.
	For a dude who's desperately, desperately trying to convince people that he's not a racist, why the fuck would you He can barely hide it.
	Because he's a demented old man.
	That was very, very... I was very... Well, it's not just that.
	His insulting people by intelligence, CNN, of course, had this graph, which is where we're at in the conversation, but it did matter a lot.
	It was like insults based on intelligence, it was like nearly 80% levied at black people in the way he talks.
	So, whether or not he wants to admit it, and the fact that the White House has to release a statement saying, we can't guarantee there's no tape out there where he says the N-word on it, that just tells me the guy knows there's cameras rolling, and before the presidency was a thing, he was just openly... Yeah, I'm curious to see what kind of that stuff comes out.
	Okay, back to Q.
	Yes.
	Let's do this.
	I keep interrupting you.
	We need to lay out Q in all of its splendor as soon as possible.
	Can we please just go through different core Q stuff before we move into side pockets?
	I'm gonna do it right now.
	You keep interrupting me.
	I'm gonna stop interrupting you.
	So as it goes, and you guys gotta remember that I'm telling you the story of what has allegedly take place.
	Yes.
	And the various drops over the last, you know, 15 months or however long it's gone, have been hinting at these little elements, hinting at each of these elements, who is involved, who are the players, all that shit.
	But the story is this.
	Seth Rich, disillusioned by the DNC's being in the tank for Hillary Clinton, her owning the DNC, he goes and releases these documents to WikiLeaks, who then release them to the world.
	Meanwhile, the DNC totally frazzled by the fact that one of their own basically pulled the rug out from under them and exposed them for what they were doing, even though it was perfectly legal within the confines of their own charter, essentially.
	You know, they basically, they go, we gotta use this and we have to double down on Russia.
	So one of the first big thing about Q is that the entire Trump-Russia collusion is a complete farce.
	That it was birthed by Hillary Clinton and her campaign advisors.
	It was then peddled to the news organizations.
	They were doing everything they could.
	They set up the Trump Tower meeting as a way to entrap him.
	And I think that would make sense because the Red Scare thing would work on Republicans more, right?
	So they were like, hey, we're talking to the Republicans.
	If they think he's a traitor, maybe that'll change their mind.
	Also, they've got fucking Trump on camera saying, hey Russia, if you're listening, it'd be nice to find those 30,000 emails.
	They've got records of Trump and Putin having a quote-unquote bromance.
	It's an easy fucking sell.
	I mean, it's an easy sell.
	He's got a bunch of contacts in Russia because he's trying to build this building here.
	He's still trying to be his business man.
	At the same time, it looks like he's actually gaining politically, so he's meeting with other foreign leaders, as one does, foreign advisors, Russians, non-Russians, whoever.
	They set up this Trump Tower meeting.
	The agent who was there, it is a fact.
	This is not just a cute thing, but it is a fact that the day before the Trump Tower meeting and the day after, she met with Fusion GPS, who we know that the Clinton campaign was paying.
	They paid over $12 million for Russian intelligence in the form of the Christopher Steele dossier that we talked about last time.
	They had Steele leak the dossier to a Yahoo News reporter.
	Who then, they then use the corroborating evidence of both the dossier and the fuckin' Yahoo article to open a FISA warrant.
	Now when you open a FISA warrant... So, we're always being surveilled.
	Always.
	I mean, in the Snowden movie Citizen Four, they...
	Show you a good job of how we're being surveilled.
	Yeah.
	So what the FISA warrant doesn't, and it's something that I wanted to touch on because we didn't really last time, the FISA warrant isn't just you can start wiretapping.
	We're always listening.
	So what the FISA warrant does is you can start unmasking.
	Digging.
	You can start unmasking.
	And so they were able, and I believe that the technical warrant allows you to unmask for three months prior.
	So they, with, so with filing this warrant on Carter Page, you know, who was built into the Steele dossier, you know, who's built into the Steele dossier as part of some of the information, the intel that was, that was contained.
	Which they used to pass this in the FISA court.
	Which they, which they used to pass this in the FISA court.
	So, and then you've got this Russian lawyer who's saying, hey, I've got dirt on Hillary Clinton.
	Come meet me, you know, I'll come to Trump Tower or whatever.
	She meets with Fusion GPS the day before and the day after.
	And she's recorded of going into that building and coming out.
	So it's like, you know, they're Terrified.
	The Clinton campaign is absolutely terrified that this monster that they've created... Well, I mean, you know... That they chose as the best guy to beat... Suddenly him saying, uh, Mexicans are rapists.
	Suddenly him saying, uh, grab a woman by her pussy.
	It's not changing anything.
	It's not changing anything.
	People are so fed up with them not doing what they either promised or what they think, or people are so pissed off at Clinton because... They've been rewired by Fox News for years.
	That's right.
	It doesn't matter.
	And the liberals who are in the center, who were diehard Bernie people, are so pissed off about this shit.
	Now that it's hard proof that Bernie Sanders is getting fucked over, she's losing ground there.
	It's a close race, and so they needed to do two things.
	And that was either A, play up this Russian collusion, this Russian spy stuff, so that it would give Take down Trump's momentum just enough so that Clinton could win and all this shit could be pushed under the rug like it always is.
	Like I'm sure they do every year with every election.
	Democrats, Republicans, I'm sure they do it.
	Obama literally stepped into office and was like, I'm not gonna prosecute any of the people who were involved in the torture stuff.
	We said last episode that Trump is just the first dickhead to just not respect that protocol.
	Right.
	So yeah, time to the Russia thing, and it's insurance, which is why these text messages between these two FBI agents that everybody's going, well, clearly they didn't have any bias, but you look at the text and obviously they don't want Trump to win.
	I mean, a lot of people don't.
	A lot of people don't.
	It makes sense.
	It makes total sense.
	Not to mention, Stroke has been Hillary's guy forever.
	I mean, they go way back.
	They've got connections.
	Like, he's in a position to... Because if Trump wins, holy shit!
	His text messages could be subpoenaed.
	I mean, everything that did happen, did.
	You know, that they would be worried about.
	He's got this affair going on.
	You know, that's bad news for an FBI agent.
	If you're having an affair, that's considered compromise.
	You're supposed to tell everybody in your... This is Stroke, the guy that they recently had a Kickstarter for.
	To raise $350,000 for a rich, white idiot in Washington to somehow help him out because he's now this freedom fighter, same thing they did with Comey.
	So the thing is, I'd been following the Q stuff, and they're saying the names of these players.
	They're saying it's Stroke, it's Page, it's McCabe, it's Comey.
	These are all the ones at the highest level that have been nonpartisan.
	And so the idea is that they're basically either turning a blind eye or somewhat facilitating this GPS thing so that it can kind of get to its fruition and they get the wiretapping.
	Right.
	And potentially Trump is undermined.
	And who knows?
	I mean... Might not have been an active role.
	Yeah, they might not have known that it was... I mean, but I have a feeling when you've been in that business for so long, like, I know... They probably were like, listen, we got the documentation, we need to push it through.
	Yeah.
	Do we need to discuss if it's true or not?
	Who cares?
	It's like anything else.
	Let's just do what we need to do.
	It's like anything else.
	I'm sure that they were very aware of what steps needed to be covered and what steps needed to be not.
	So we're at that point, but please keep us going on the QAnon story now.
	So I'd been loosely sort of following QAnon on Twitter and all this stuff, and it was mildly interesting.
	But then McCabe gets fired, or Comey gets fired, Stroke is now fired.
	Lisa Page has been demoted in the FBI.
	So what's crazy to me is all of this stuff that seemed totally, at least at the very beginning, like ludicrous, there are now real world implications that you are seeing that are sort of Because for all of the Trump- But it could just be the sentiment inside the Trump campaign that just goes, we don't like these people and then Q starts typing stuff about them and then they fire them and they're like, oh look, it's proof.
	It's the same thing as leaking to Yahoo.
	It's just as ludicrous.
	I think, and this is a great place to start before we were sort of current and start going over current drops, current news cycles, how it's affected.
	I'm being told nothing about pedophilia and Lucifer and praying.
	I know this is part of the damn thing.
	That is tier two of QAnon that we're going into.
	This is the core political... This is what I would rank...
	most plausible. So the idea here is that the FISA thing gets released by Trump or
	or the the redacted lines get released and then Hillary is in chains, all these FBI guys are in
	chains and there's a perp walk and all these right-wing people are just love the idea of that.
	Yes. Because they've been chanting lock her up.
	Yes, that they have reopened Guantanamo Bay, that they have restaffed it, refinanced it, and at the end of all of this, yes.
	Hillary goes to Guantanamo.
	All of these people will be tried for major crimes against the United States.
	Which is so funny because every leader of the United States has made decisions that I would argue are war crimes.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	And Trump being the one to do it, it's all so fucked.
	Guantanamo is a kangaroo court where they literally, like, it's basically an open-air black site where they're basically openly just, yeah, there's no due process, we just bring them here, we torture them, we do whatever, and then fucking... Who knows?
	That's probably where we're going to end up if this podcast gets big.
	Which to me is a deeply fascist fantasy.
	The idea that your opponent is going to have no due process and going to have a bag over their head on an island somewhere is like... I totally agree.
	I'm sorry, but that's like a fascist fantasy.
	I know, I totally agree.
	So that's the core of Q. Yeah, that is at least what we're led to believe is It is building towards.
	So that final postcard they're waiting for, maybe I'm not on board with, some things along the way are definitely credible.
	And the thing is, what's crazy to me, is that you have Q saying all of this crazy shit, and you've got McCabe getting actually fired.
	And it's not by, I mean Comey, Trump fired, but McCabe got pushed out by just FBI codes of ethics dudes.
	We don't even know what he did yet.
	We don't even know.
	That information is not public.
	We've got Stroke who seems like a real fucking asshole.
	When I watched Comey testify, I was like, this guy doesn't seem like a fucking asshole to me.
	He seems kind of like an idiot.
	That's every upper management guy who commits war crimes.
	Yeah, I know.
	They all are pretty chill guys.
	You're right.
	They're in a rich country, they've had a job for their whole life.
	They're bureaucrats.
	I don't disagree.
	But then you've got on the other side, you've got everybody going Trump, Russia, Trump, Russia, Trump, Russia.
	And really the only people who have gotten in trouble are Manafort and Gates for some bullshit like rich people crimes that they did like five years ago.
	But what do you believe about Mueller then?
	What's his alignment?
	Because I don't...
	I don't see him as a particularly pro-Comey, pro-Hillary guy.
	You know that Mueller, or Mueller I believe, I think is how you pronounce his name, he
	met with Trump the day before he was actually given the job as the special prosecutor.
	Right.
	Um, and, and the news reported that it was, it was under the guise of, he was interviewing Mueller to be the head of the FBI.
	Yeah.
	Um, which Mueller couldn't do because he already served for- But that's a classic Trump thing too, like, I'll give you a position if you shut up.
	Yeah, I mean, it could be, but I think technically he could not because he served two terms.
	But Trump doesn't fucking know that.
	Well, Trump doesn't know that, exactly.
	Trump couldn't name the 50 states if you asked him.
	I go back and forth about Trump on this stuff.
	Part of me thinks that even if he has no idea, that he's surrounded by people who do know and lawyers that do know to one extent.
	Fine, maybe.
	Yeah, but they can't control him because otherwise they wouldn't have such stupid stuff coming out all the time.
	Right, right, right.
	Hello?
	This is just someone who wants to say that Donald Trump has a giant penis.
	most successful, he was an absolute idiot.
	He was the kind of guy who would call the reporters to be like,
	oh, hello?
	This is just someone who wants to say that Donald Trump has a giant penis.
	Could you please publish that?
	Um, excuse me, who is this?
	It's, uh, not Donald, uh, it's, uh, uh, Rosalina!
	Um... Rosalina.
	Okay, and you wanted to say about... Hewlett-Packard is my last name.
	About, uh, ma'am, that's a, uh, that's a computer company.
	I'm sorry, Packard.
	Just Packard.
	Packard.
	Okay.
	And you wanted to just... Just say that Trump has a giant, a big one.
	Did you want to take out an ad in the paper?
	Yes.
	Oh, not a classified?
	Okay, well, our half-page ads start at $12.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm not going to pay anything for this.
	Oh, you just... Isn't he famous?
	Um, well... Isn't this a story?
	Depends on who you ask.
	Please stay on the line.
	What's funny to me, and why I'm fascinated by the whole QAnon thing, it has nothing to do with politics, and it has nothing to do with any sort of political alignment I have.
	It's just that this dude is saying all of this crazy shit, and then I'm watching it sort of come true in the news.
	Of course.
	Oh, he did the ultimate fake on you.
	And then everybody is You know, everybody's saying, like, whoa, whoa, Russia, and Russia, and there's so much evidence, and like, oh, there's so- Jake, uh, did you have, uh- But there's someone close to you named, uh, Peter, uh, John, uh, Luke, uh- Someone with an L. No.
	Did you ever lose somebody?
	Yes.
	Oh, fantastic.
	I'm now in communication with this person from the dead, and, uh, we are live.
	Uh, what a breakthrough.
	Grandpa?
	I mean, that's kind of the system, though!
	I have dreams about you!
	I'm telling you, this is how they do you!
	They're like, look, can't you see?
	It's on the screen, it's on the thing.
	I think, at the very least, at the very least, QAnon is probably an intern or group of interns within the Trump Organization, and they know what's going on, and they're doing this to, like, exactly what you said on last episode, to make people feel like they are insiders on this, like, you know, on this rainbow-paved We saw what happened to Hannity after he started talking about Seth Rich.
	He knew it was the best story.
	Oh, he got plowed.
	He had a career of lying and inventing stories.
	It's just that in this case he realized it was one step too far and they knew that they would need, I think, that whole kind of wing pushing out this information because Fox News can't because they're getting literally sued because it's so wrong and so obviously Weird and misleading.
	He constantly says stuff like, how do you make information public?
	And there's this kind of underlying theme that the system itself is so massively corrupt and there are so many insiders that they have to be really clever about how information is released.
	Doesn't fit with our peak sloppy concept.
	For example, One of the things, I can't remember, I don't think this came from Q, I think this came from just like an Anon analysis, which you have a lot of.
	Some are interesting, some are terrible.
	Yeah, they do the work for you.
	Stuff like Michael Cohen getting arrested, and knowing that he was going to get arrested.
	So that there was evidence that was taken in that raid that now has to be entered into the public like yeah
	Like doing cool spy shit like that now I doubt any of that's true with Michael Cohen, but like he
	just seems like a fucking shitbag lawyer But like but like that kind of stuff. I think is really
	fucking cool. So like So yeah, there's stuff surrounding it that they can spice
	it up There's Level 2, which is going to involve aliens, Lucifer, and pedophilia.
	Tier 2 involves massive sex trafficking through the southern border, which is allegedly really what the border wall is about.
	It's not about immigration, but it is about cutting off supply routes run by the CIA and human trafficking.
	Oh yeah, that's just a preview of what you're coming up against.
	I would like to, before we close the episode out, give my theory of what might have happened to Seth.
	Okay.
	This is my theory.
	Seth, let's go down this road of thinking Seth is perhaps a Bernie supporter that was grossed out by what happened inside the DNC.
	So, he leaks this big body of emails, right?
	Thinking, hey, if this whole thing is just dumped, like, people are going to find out that Hillary really went out of her way in the DNC to fuck over Bernie, right?
	Which some of those emails do show.
	However, what happens is Assange sits on them.
	Seth Rich is sweating, going, what the fuck?
	I did this for a reason.
	I want this stuff out there.
	Finally, Assange intervenes and puts out the emails in reaction to bad news that Trump has said another stupid thing.
	Wait, let me get to the end.
	So, He goes, well, wait a second.
	Assange only released part of the emails because that was what was going to make Trump win, is if only part of his emails.
	And at that point, WikiLeaks has him whacked.
	Because they don't want the guy to go up and say, hey, I leaked this original data.
	Here's the actual full stuff, straight to the media, because I didn't know Julian Assange was going to take a side.
	He doesn't know yet about Julian Assange's taking sides with Hillary.
	He probably thinks this is a free agent.
	He'll just dump the entire document.
	That, to me, is my own little QAnon spinoff.
	Interesting.
	You know what?
	That's not bad, dude.
	It's not bad, right?
	It's not bad at all.
	It's my first time, so, you know.
	That's nice, you're getting, I can feel it, you're loosening, you're loosening up just a tiny bit.
	And you're just ready to do me.
	Well, thank you for tuning in to another week of QAnon Anonymous, where I try to help Jake, let's say, reintegrate society and stop fighting with his loved ones.
	And Jake helps me understand that at the core of the world, there is a Luciferan It's a pedophilic ring of aliens controlling our minds.

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