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Feb. 4, 2025 - Dennis Prager Show
08:24
FBI Whistleblower Tells All! Pt 2
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Again, I'm speaking to Stephen Friend, FBI whistleblower.
So to this day, Stephen, you're still not allowed to go out and make a living because the FBI is punishing you for exposing their corruption.
Is that correct?
Oh, the die has already been cast.
They have withheld my training documents.
To the point where I can't get into law enforcement.
I mean, I get denied applications to work as just a regular sheriff's deputy, even part-time security.
It's been a tough road to hoe here, but hopefully with the incoming Kash Patel directorship, at least maybe get access to that sort of information.
And on top of the fact that my security clearance being revoked is kind of a pretty bad black stain on you that you're unable to really gain any sort of employment that's meaningful.
Man, that stuff makes me so hot.
You are a strong person to deal with this.
It just makes me so frustrated.
I hope someone in Trump's orbit is listening.
I hope Kash Patel will right this wrong against these FBI whistleblowers that have been absolutely punished for doing the right thing and going about it the right way.
As a matter of fact, and are just being destroyed for it.
All right, six of the FBI's most senior executives were basically marched out of the buildings on orders of the acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Boe.
So Trump isn't missing a beat, even though his nominations are waiting for confirmation.
The people that are already in and these acting directors, if you will, aren't missing a beat.
So your thoughts on these these senior executives that were basically marched out or told to resign, resign by today.
This is an outstanding move, particularly last week, Thursday and Friday.
These EADs, as they're called, executive assistant directors, they're the fourth in line.
You have director, deputy director, associate deputy director, but then these six folks oversee the various branches of the FBI. It's an incredibly high, prominent position.
And to dismiss them and give Cash Patel an opportunity to come in.
And actually bringing capable and competent leaders to reform the agency is a tremendous opportunity.
Because right now, across the board, almost 100% of management within the bureaucracy is just incapable and incompetent.
You're filled with people who's solely interested in promoting within a construct that only promotes people like them.
I mean, they have no experience within five years of entering the FBI. They're already entering into management ranks, and they're overseeing things that they have.
No subject matter expertise in.
And that has to go away.
We have to actually say, next man up.
People who have been in the agency and actually know what they're doing, you're going to have to chart a course here and get this thing back on a path to be an objective force for good that's interested in protecting the American people against fraud and force.
It sounds like the same problem exists in the DOJ slash FBI. Stephen Friend is my guest, FBI whistleblower, that exists in the military.
And that's what Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth wants to clean up.
It sounds like, I mean, basically the same, just the same issue.
You've got these top-heavy people that are just working for a promotion.
You've talked about, just briefly, you mentioned this before, but a lot of these people, they get paid.
Based upon bonuses, so their incentive isn't necessarily to maybe solve crime as much as it is to create crime.
Am I going too far with that?
Maybe tie that into the J6 prosecutors that are being fired, Stephen Friend?
No, those are the overlap.
That Venn diagram is a complete circle.
The FBI has had a better part of, over a decade now, integrated program management, which is a quarter system.
Where they set metrics for themselves to achieve, and they set the metrics very high for particular violations that are politically interesting to people who are going to give them a budget over at Congress.
So the Biden administration came in, had control of the Congress, and they set domestic terrorism, ergo white supremacy, very high.
And that's what they did with January 6th.
That was my whistleblowing.
They took one case, turned it into thousands of cases, about 2,400 of them.
And spread them around the country, and the senior executives got bonuses because of the court assistant.
They are incentivized to keep them on the book, open as many as they could.
And the other thing I'll add, too, is for all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from our friends over on the communist left about how these executives have been walked out, the FBI promoted a significant number of people in the lead-up to Donald Trump's inauguration.
The week before, they promoted six assistant directors, and all these special agents in charge have only been there for a couple of weeks because they tried to get people into executive ranks.
In preparation to resist Donald Trump and Kash Patel.
So these are not people who are long-tenured and experienced executives.
Do you think that Donald Trump is better abled?
I mean, he seems like it.
I mean, the guy is taking a sledgehammer to the DOJ and the FBI, and he has.
Under the Constitution, I was reading through Article 2 of the Constitution, Steve.
I'm like, I don't understand the uproar about all this stuff.
This guy is the head of the—I mean, these people are under the helm of the executive branch.
You think Trump gets it this time, based upon what you're seeing?
I think so.
I think that that four-year gap there where he was trying to play nice for his first administration and saw where it got him, it got him on the other side of multiple federal investigations that were just totally ridiculous and fabricated.
And now he's actually got an appetite to go in and root this sort of thing out.
He's done talking about the good men and women of these agencies and saying that, look, a lot of them are the problem, not just because they were...
Contriving these schemes, but because they were just willing to follow orders.
They saw their oath of office as nothing more than an iPhone user agreement, something you check yes in order to get access to a lucrative career.
And that is wholly inappropriate if you are a position of public trust.
And you need to be rooted out.
I am not going to shed a tear for anyone who just followed orders and agreed to put 80-year-old women who prayed outside of an abortion clinic behind a cage because their boss told them to because their boss wanted to get a $50,000 a year bonus.
All right, I'm speaking to Stephen Friend, FBI whistleblower, also author of the book.
I don't know why I forgot to mention this.
True Blue, My Journey from Beat Cop to Suspended FBI Whistleblower.
So please go out and purchase that book.
Help a brother out, if you will.
Stephen, we only have a minute and a half left with you here.
J6 prosecutors, they're gone.
Speak about that real quickly.
Your take on that.
Wholly appropriate.
Again, we're back to the process.
Look, regardless of what offenses were committed on January 6th, the DOJ and the FBI were interested in the outcomes.
They violated due process rights, violated cruel and unusual punishment rights, and they marched people into a star chamber so that they could get another pelt on their belt here.
All the prosecutors there, and I've talked to others who knew about what was going on, the illegalities that occurred there, they should not just lose their jobs, they should be, in fact, prosecuted for color of law violations.
Look, the example I give is Bill Cosby.
Bill Cosby committed horrible offenses, sexual assaults against young ladies.
But when he agreed with the prosecutor to tell them what happened in return for not being prosecuted, that deal was struck and then violated by the government.
Bill Cosby walked free.
This is entirely the fault of the government.
They made the process the punishment.
They got away from the directive to follow the process.
So regardless of what anybody committed, anybody who was a I agree with you.
Man, that's such a great point.
20 seconds.
These standards need to be raised in the FBI as far as qualifications, DEI, whatever it may be.
20 seconds.
They put diversity ahead of rigorous obedience to the Constitution as a core value.
That needs to go away.
We need to get competent, capable people here who are actually able to do the job of law enforcement.
Stephen, Fran, I appreciate you, man.
I'm going to be sounding the horn and praying for you.
Your security clearance needs to—you need to have it.
You need to have it.
You don't deserve to be treated this way.
Thank you, man.
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