Oct. 16, 2020 - Dennis Prager Show
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| businesses, having people rate it on the racist scale. | |
| The assault on American freedom by corporations is a first in American history. | |
| you. | |
| And you don't need the government to suppress freedom when you have all of this being done. | |
| Somebody's fighting it. | |
| Defending Freedom, ADF. Here's a case from a college that I need you to hear about that they are taking on. | |
| David Cortman is Senior Counsel at the Alliance Defending Freedom. | |
| David, welcome to the Dennis Prager Show. | |
| Thanks for having me on. | |
| Tell us about this case of this Christian student. | |
| Yeah, it's remarkable. | |
| So people hear that universities are supposed to be the marketplace of ideas. | |
| Here, this student, Chike Uzubunum is his name, was basically sharing in his faith in this college outside of Atlanta, Georgia. | |
| And they have speech zones. | |
| You've got to get permission to speech. | |
| And these speech zones are less than 1% of campus. | |
| You have to get permission in advance. | |
| And you have to show them your materials. | |
| It's basically, you know, nearly impossible. | |
| He gets permission and they shut him down anyway because they didn't like what he was saying. | |
| They didn't like the fact that he was sharing his face with other students. | |
| Help me out on this first part. | |
| There are free speech zones. | |
| What is the name of this college? | |
| It's called Georgia Gwinnett College. | |
| Is it just a small private college? | |
| No, it's a large public college. | |
| It's a large public college. | |
| That's right. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| And this is a Christian student. | |
| I assume from his name he is from Africa? | |
| Yes, that's all correct. | |
| Okay, so he wants to, on campus, speak to fellow students, presumably about Christianity. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| Right, that's right. | |
| Okay, so I want to understand. | |
| We'll get to the Christianity aspect in a moment. | |
| What if I want to speak to fellow students about UFOs? | |
| Am I constrained to speech zones? | |
| I don't understand what renders you able to speak only in a speech zone. | |
| Well, the reality is whether the school officials like what you're saying, because obviously students are walking around talking and speaking all the time. | |
| It's only applied against someone who they don't like what they're saying. | |
| And if you would imagine the size of a football field is the university, the speech zone is the size of a piece of paper. | |
| That's the scale to show how limited these free speech rights are on these public campuses. | |
| Right. | |
| I'm trying to understand it fully because it's so unbelievable to me and to my listeners. | |
| So if you want to say, I hate racism, are you confined to that piece of paper? | |
| Well, you are unless they don't enforce it against you, and that's been one of the problems. | |
| So not only do they have these policies, but they pick and choose who they enforce it against. | |
| And one of the aspects in the case was there's other people that are always talking about various issues, and nobody's prohibited from doing so. | |
| He was speaking, didn't even know there was a speed zone. | |
| The school officials came out and said, no, you can't speak here. | |
| You've got to go to these tiny little speed zones. | |
| So that's the problem. | |
| It applies to everyone on paper, but they only enforce it against those who don't want to hear their message. | |
| So he was merely preaching on behalf of Christ, correct? | |
| That's right, and handing out some flyers to those who wanted them. | |
| Exactly right. | |
| You know what would be a very interesting test, I wonder if it could be arranged, is to see if a student at the university spoke on behalf of Islam what they would do. | |
| Yeah, and there's been other speech taking place, because he's on campus, obviously, all the time he was on campus at that time. | |
| And he would say, look, there's always people speaking about various issues, and no one comes to them and says, hey, you're not in a speech zone, make sure you go over here. | |
| And so that's the point of picking and choosing your favorites and getting rid of the rest. | |
| Right, but it would be a great test. | |
| Do you know for a fact that others can... | |
| Can speak on behalf of what they call progressive causes and not be harassed? | |
| Yeah, and the reason we do is it's happened before. | |
| And so, you know, the point of it is that you have the... | |
| And no one's aware of these speed zones. | |
| Let's just start with that. | |
| Because you assume when you go to a public university that you're paying for and you're a student who's required to be on campus for your classes... | |
| Oops, I'm sorry. | |
| Anyway, hold on. | |
| I'm sorry about the interruption, but I have to interrupt you anyway. | |
| To remind you folks, They are taking on this case, the Alliance Defending Freedom. | |
| There is a banner at my website to help them. | |
| If you don't help the fighters, the fighters can't fight. |
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