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Conservatives Post-Trump
00:03:06
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| No, I mean, I think a lot of what you say is correct. | |
| Can I ask one final question? | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| So those three people that I mentioned, Robert P. George at Princeton, Jonah Goldberg at the Dispatch, and Jay Nordlinger at National Review. | |
| Right. | |
| Do you think there's still—I mean, I respect you. | |
| I respect all them immensely. | |
| Do you think there's still room in post-Trump conservatism for people like those three gentlemen? | |
| Who oppose Trump, but I think also stand for a lot and do a really good job at explaining what conservatism is to a lot of people. | |
| Okay, so I've had all of them on my show. | |
| I appeared with Robbie George at Princeton. | |
| It's probably on YouTube, the program that he... | |
| Yeah, I saw you. | |
| I was there. | |
| Oh, okay, good. | |
| It was a wonderful evening. | |
| We have, obviously, deep mutual respect, and that continues. | |
| And he did a, I said, oh yeah, he did a preview video, so did Jonah Goldberg. | |
| No, Norlinger has not. | |
| But he's been on the show. | |
| And Jonah Goldberg I've had on. | |
| I've recommended his books with great passion. | |
| And same with George Will. | |
| I have not alienated. | |
| Some of them have gone over, I mean, Max Boot has called the president Stalin. | |
| That is sick. | |
| That is indefensibly evil, what he did. | |
| And for a man whose parents escaped the Soviet Union, it's particularly sick. | |
| So he's lost me, and he's lost... | |
| Goldberg has not lost me, and Robbie George has not, or George Will has not. | |
| Even Bret Stephens is not. | |
| I still adore the guy. | |
| They're just, in my opinion, totally wrong about this. | |
| Look, every human being is a package. | |
| I try to live by what I preach. | |
| I preach that everyone is a package. | |
| And I balance. | |
| People have moral bank accounts. | |
| The good that Brett Stevens has done outweighs the bad on Trump. | |
| Same with Jonah Goldberg. | |
| The same with Robbie George and so on. | |
| And I think that they think that about me. | |
| That, you know, Dennis, you know, Brett Stevens still says, you know, I'm a national treasure. | |
| I mean, I'm not... | |
| Saying this to compliment me. | |
| I'm saying it to compliment Brett Stephens. | |
| That even though I'm so passionately pro-the-president, he still says all these kind things. | |
| We're able to still respect each other, though we differ on this fundamental issue. | |
| But I want you, this young man that you are, I want you to think these things through. | |
| And by the way, I just... | |
| The facile nature of judging this man's character, you cited the line, which of course, do you have a Jewish education? | |
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God's Complex Choices
00:01:21
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| Not a great one, but a lot of self-education. | |
| Okay, so anyway, the phrase you quoted, whoever humiliates his neighbor in public, it's as if he has shed his blood. | |
| I mean, it's something I learned first in Hebrew before I even knew it in English. | |
| So I am very familiar with that. | |
| But you're also familiar with the fact that God uses King David, who's a bigger sinner than Donald Trump. | |
| It's a very complex matter about macro good with flawed humans. | |
| I think that the same with using a prostitute as the... | |
| As the heroine to let the Israelites into Canaan. | |
| God could have chosen a person in a more noble profession than prostitution. | |
| I think there are lessons here that in the greater good, flawed people may well be doing good. | |
| If you're fighting a war and your general is a woman-chasing, cursing guy, but he wins the battles against the bad guys, You keep him. | |
| Okay? | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. | |
| Right. | |
| Good luck to you. | |