Dennis Prager Show - Debate: is there Room for Opposing Trump? Aired: 2020-02-05 Duration: 04:13 === Conservatives Post-Trump (03:06) === [00:00:01] No, I mean, I think a lot of what you say is correct. [00:00:04] Can I ask one final question? [00:00:06] Mm-hmm. [00:00:07] So those three people that I mentioned, Robert P. George at Princeton, Jonah Goldberg at the Dispatch, and Jay Nordlinger at National Review. [00:00:17] Right. [00:00:18] Do you think there's still—I mean, I respect you. [00:00:21] I respect all them immensely. [00:00:22] Do you think there's still room in post-Trump conservatism for people like those three gentlemen? [00:00:29] Who oppose Trump, but I think also stand for a lot and do a really good job at explaining what conservatism is to a lot of people. [00:00:36] Okay, so I've had all of them on my show. [00:00:38] I appeared with Robbie George at Princeton. [00:00:41] It's probably on YouTube, the program that he... [00:00:44] Yeah, I saw you. [00:00:44] I was there. [00:00:45] Oh, okay, good. [00:00:46] It was a wonderful evening. [00:00:47] We have, obviously, deep mutual respect, and that continues. [00:00:52] And he did a, I said, oh yeah, he did a preview video, so did Jonah Goldberg. [00:00:56] No, Norlinger has not. [00:00:58] But he's been on the show. [00:00:59] And Jonah Goldberg I've had on. [00:01:03] I've recommended his books with great passion. [00:01:06] And same with George Will. [00:01:09] I have not alienated. [00:01:11] Some of them have gone over, I mean, Max Boot has called the president Stalin. [00:01:18] That is sick. [00:01:20] That is indefensibly evil, what he did. [00:01:24] And for a man whose parents escaped the Soviet Union, it's particularly sick. [00:01:28] So he's lost me, and he's lost... [00:01:32] Goldberg has not lost me, and Robbie George has not, or George Will has not. [00:01:38] Even Bret Stephens is not. [00:01:40] I still adore the guy. [00:01:45] They're just, in my opinion, totally wrong about this. [00:01:48] Look, every human being is a package. [00:01:51] I try to live by what I preach. [00:01:53] I preach that everyone is a package. [00:01:55] And I balance. [00:01:57] People have moral bank accounts. [00:01:59] The good that Brett Stevens has done outweighs the bad on Trump. [00:02:02] Same with Jonah Goldberg. [00:02:04] The same with Robbie George and so on. [00:02:06] And I think that they think that about me. [00:02:09] That, you know, Dennis, you know, Brett Stevens still says, you know, I'm a national treasure. [00:02:15] I mean, I'm not... [00:02:16] Saying this to compliment me. [00:02:17] I'm saying it to compliment Brett Stephens. [00:02:20] That even though I'm so passionately pro-the-president, he still says all these kind things. [00:02:25] We're able to still respect each other, though we differ on this fundamental issue. [00:02:30] But I want you, this young man that you are, I want you to think these things through. [00:02:40] And by the way, I just... [00:02:42] The facile nature of judging this man's character, you cited the line, which of course, do you have a Jewish education? === God's Complex Choices (01:21) === [00:02:55] Not a great one, but a lot of self-education. [00:02:58] Okay, so anyway, the phrase you quoted, whoever humiliates his neighbor in public, it's as if he has shed his blood. [00:03:07] I mean, it's something I learned first in Hebrew before I even knew it in English. [00:03:11] So I am very familiar with that. [00:03:13] But you're also familiar with the fact that God uses King David, who's a bigger sinner than Donald Trump. [00:03:23] It's a very complex matter about macro good with flawed humans. [00:03:30] I think that the same with using a prostitute as the... [00:03:35] As the heroine to let the Israelites into Canaan. [00:03:39] God could have chosen a person in a more noble profession than prostitution. [00:03:44] I think there are lessons here that in the greater good, flawed people may well be doing good. [00:03:53] If you're fighting a war and your general is a woman-chasing, cursing guy, but he wins the battles against the bad guys, You keep him. [00:04:07] Okay? [00:04:10] Thank you so much. [00:04:11] Thank you for taking the time to talk to me. [00:04:12] Right. [00:04:13] Good luck to you.