Kevin Samuels and the Audacity Network dissect the "6'6'6" myth, arguing women prioritize emotional intensity over height, income, or genital size. Callers debate whether metrics like six figures are mere marketing tools or essential for stability, citing Leonardo DiCaprio's charm versus Tom Brady's stats. While some insist on dominance and an "IDGAF" attitude to secure dates, others warn against becoming transactional "nannies." Ultimately, the discussion suggests that while tangible assets open doors, authentic connection and a man's ability to lead without validation determine long-term relationship success. [Automatically generated summary]
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Defining High Value Men00:14:42
What is up, everybody?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
As you guys know, I love talking to you, love having these conversations.
And today we are going to get into the topic of women actually don't care about six feet, six figures, six inches.
And what I actually think Kevin Samuels got wrong about the term high value men.
So, I love Kevin Samuels.
And really, I would say he was a mentor to me.
I looked up to him.
I think he was a genius.
However, there's things that I guess when I started in this YouTube space, I kind of thought were true and were not as true as I thought initially.
Right.
So, when I got in here, I would meet these women.
That just would talk about these crazy high dating standards.
I remember like four or five years ago, I met a woman in LA.
And one of my first viral clips was this woman saying she would not get engaged unless she got a $300,000 engagement ring.
300,000, like that's ridiculous.
And this woman was overweight, black woman, classic, right?
And this is what I thought, and this is what I found to be true when I did interview after interview after interview, right?
I did all these interviews, and all the women said they wanted high value men.
They wanted men that were six feet, made six figures.
Until, you know, I had another show.
There was a woman, she was absolutely gorgeous, like 22, 25 ish, that age range.
And she said that she only likes nice guys, right?
She likes men that make good money.
And then she banged someone I know with a criminal record, right?
No, it wasn't Allie.
No.
Why do we not believe women when they say they like nice guys, but somehow we believe women when they say, I want six feet, six figures, six inches?
So many women say that they're only looking for a certain standard of men.
And in my opinion, women say this to look good for their friends because you must be really awesome if you can demand that, right?
But life hits women in the face.
And a lot of the women that said they wanted men worth six feet, six figures, six inches, banged men with absolutely none of that.
Broke men, men with small, men that did not make six figures.
So to start the show, I do want to credit.
Nuclear Claudio and Ryan Stone for this stream.
A lot of the stuff I'm going to articulate is stuff I've kind of learned from both of their channels.
So I want to, as I generally talk about this topic, I do want to give credit where credit is due, right?
So we're going to talk about Kevin Samuel's definition of high value.
Now, to be fair, because women are so whimsical, He at least had the balls to define it, right?
But we're going to keep going.
It's a high value bin.
Glad you asked.
Let's define it.
Welcome back.
For those of you who don't know, my name is Kevin Samuels.
I'm a professional men's and corporate image consultant.
My job is to make sure my clients look good, smell great, and are the best version.
I'm not putting your plugs viral.
But here's the thing so many people are talking about high value this, high value that.
And many times they're actually talking about me and saying as though, well, Kevin said this or Kevin said that.
And many people are getting it 100% wrong.
So, in an attempt to make sense of all this, I want to give you guys the simple six basic principles.
That I define as being high value.
Now, again, you don't have to agree with what I'm saying, but this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying a high value man.
So your mileage may vary, your opinion is your opinion, but when I'm talking about it, this is what I'm talking about.
So let's get it started.
First of all, let's go over some basic definitions high, great, greater than normal, in quantity, size, or intensity.
Value, the regard of something held to deserve the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.
And man, an adult human male.
So, when you put all that together, what do you have?
An adult human male that's greater than normal importance or usefulness to what?
Their group.
Basic economic principle states that the value of something.
Now, what I think he's getting wrong here is he's conflating the value of men to society versus to women.
Women don't always like what's useful, right?
You could be a useful man to society, and women will still view you as useless.
This doesn't take away from your value as a man, but there's winners and losers in love.
And there's damn near criminals with nothing to their name, not even attractive, just willing to be degenerates that women value highly.
And I'll get to how I would define it.
All right, so let's continue.
Is what a market is willing to pay for it?
The value is determined by what?
The market.
Yeah.
And so for me, the market's got to be women.
What are women willing to do to get it?
Right.
Not what are other men, you know, I've always said men care more about money than women because it's always the fathers that tell their daughters to go marry rich where women want to marry broke.
That's why all of our favorite movies are marrying broke men.
Even if the rich guy's hot in all of, and we're going to go through that.
In all of our favorite movies, right?
The rich men, Titanic, And the notebook, the alternative men are chads too.
They're like giga chads, right?
And when we're talking about individuals, the market is other people, men or women.
So a high value man is.
Yeah, we got to take, you know, because men aren't the ones sleeping with you.
So when we're talking about the dating market, not society as a whole, the dating market, the high value men have to be performing in the dating market.
And I'm going to get into it.
It's completely determined by the market.
Case in point, you can have a vehicle, a home, anything in your possession.
You can hold it dear.
It can be supremely important to you.
But when you put it on the market, the market decides.
And there's an upper limit and a lower limit.
It doesn't really matter if you think the low is too low or the high is not high enough.
That's what the market is willing to pay for it.
And that is its overall value.
What women want is not a man's concern.
It is if they're the ones fucking, right?
Grape is illegal.
Grape is, you can't, you know, so what men want doesn't matter because women have to select, right?
Now, this doesn't mean you're valued to society.
It's not to society, but you have to have women like, there has to be women that are young, hot, and of quality interested in you.
If they're not, well, you can't say you're a winner in this game.
You know what I mean?
There's men taking virginities every day.
It just might not be you.
And I'm not saying I'm necessarily a winner in this game, right?
You know, it's not.
And so I'm not saying this to look down on anybody, but, you know, we got to.
I'm trying to quantify things accurately.
With us forever.
So when we start talking about that, we're dealing with people.
It really throws people off because it seems so cold, so calculated.
But like.
There's no women equality today.
There are, right?
There are.
Now, I'm not saying there's a lot, right?
And a lot of them make really bad decisions.
But when women are young, there's no tattoos, no debt.
When women are 18, they're virgins, maybe not virgins, but they're typically have no debt and no tattoos.
And they're banging somebody.
It's just not you.
Take ETL.
They're not godly women.
There's godly women, right?
They're just being doing the godly things with someone else.
You know what I mean?
That's the way the world is.
So let's get into this whole high value man thing.
Number one, in order to be a high value man, it starts with money.
Again, like it or not, I didn't put the six figure thing out there.
It's been with us since the mid 80s.
And like it or not, that's where this whole thing starts.
You can't be high value and homeless.
So you have to make a certain amount of money.
And the line is roughly at $10,000 a month adjusted for Atlanta dollars.
If you live in San Francisco, LA, New York City, or the cost of living is higher than 100%, you need to adjust it.
So $10,000 a month gets the starting point off for high value.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm just giving you what the world gave me.
Number two, that money needs to be made over a length of time, i.e., performance.
And that's roughly about five years.
And about the three year mark, you're kind of starting to scratch the surface.
Why does it need to be five years?
Well, because it's a matter of consistency and stability.
Look in the NFL, the NBA, anybody can have a great season, but having a great season does not automatically mean you're going to the Hall of Fame.
For what I would say is he has to have a great season of getting young, hot women.
I would actually say none of this matters.
He has to have time and consistently banging young, hot chicks.
If he steps out of the market, they have to still be interested.
It has to be what are women banging?
Plenty of men make money for three to five years and get no women.
They want to see consistent numbers over a period of time.
Five girls a year.
I need at least five chicks a year.
And you could say, well, I'm trying to put it.
You could say, well, maybe he's rusty, right?
Maybe he's just out of the game.
And it's kind of like coaching versus being in the game, right?
You know how this works, just like I do in business.
You're getting triggered.
Stop pussyfooting.
Men shouldn't concern themselves with what women say.
Well, that's the point, right?
We don't care what women say they want.
That's the whole point.
I care who are women fucking, right?
Who are women banging?
That's the market, right?
And there's going to be, I'm going to do more quantifiable.
You can't be a one hit wonder or have up here and down there consistency, performance over a length of time.
That's why they're five.
Again, I'm saying consistency and performance over a length of time.
Banging hot women.
That's where it's got to be.
For me, your mark is so important.
Like I said, around three years, you're starting to scratch the surface, but at five years, people can pretty much count on you to say, this person understands and knows how to get it done.
Number three is group acceptance.
Like it or not, guys, high value men is like a fraternity, it's like a club, a secret society, and high value men, no other high value men.
They're welcoming men to the group.
They know what it takes to be there.
They know what it takes to get in there.
And high value men, group acceptance is supremely important.
Guys, secret societies, fraternities, organizations have always been with us.
And you know how this just works in just general interaction.
Guys, they just make their own secret society, a club, but it doesn't matter as much as somebody says that group is important.
Guys, this is about separation.
High value men tend to huddle around other high value men for reasons I'm going to go into a little bit later.
But group acceptance is another critical component of being a high value man.
Why is group acceptance so important?
Because the next part, a network, you have to have a network of other high value men and others.
This is another stumbling block for a lot of guys, for a lot of people, because they may have the money, even the length of time, they may look like they fit.
Network of women that you can bang, right?
A network of women that if you could call them, that's what I would put it.
A network of women that if you could call them at any time in their life, You're their alpha widow.
They will come running.
Women don't care.
I mean, they care about your business connections.
Eh.
The group, but if they don't even have any of the high value contacts or network, a group of others, that person is going to be looked at with a side eye.
Think of it like this if you're sitting at the table with 10 high value men, and each of these 10 men has 50 contacts, that's 500 contacts.
Status vs. Money in Dating00:06:05
And this is high value for business, right?
To society.
Not in the dating marketplace.
They're completely different things.
Sit at the table and you have twice as much money as any other man on there, but you have zero contacts.
What can you effectively get done other than throw money at it?
These other men can make phone calls, exert influence, move things to get things done.
And you can only do what?
You can only do what?
Offer money and potentially feed off that network of contacts.
One thing high value men know and understand that time is what's important.
And building a network that actually works for you.
Is extremely important.
In some areas, it's called a book of business.
A book of business can make you successful here, here, and here.
Your contacts, your network, your network is your net worth.
You've heard this before, so you cannot underestimate how important having a network of high value men and other people is to your status as a high value man.
After the network, we got to have the visibility.
Guys, your income and your position has to be LinkedIn level.
Think of it like this.
This person says they're the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
This person is head of thoracic surgery at Johns Hopkins.
This person is VP of mergers and acquisition at Bank of America.
And then someone says, Hi, I'm an entrepreneur.
Three of those four people at a glance, we can pretty much estimate who they are, what they do, and their relative importance in the overall socioeconomic structure.
The fourth person, more information is needed.
There's not enough visibility, not enough transparency to be a high value man.
It needs to be at a glance again.
Your position and your income, guys, you may have a lot of money, but if it's coming from sketchy areas, no one can kind of understand where it's coming from.
That does not give other high value men or even the public any kind of real confidence that you are who you say you are.
Again, guys, it's about the market, it's what the market, the world is thinking.
They got again.
My issue with this is we're talking about the dating marketplace.
The same way he would ask women, are you getting proposals from the men you want?
You gotta ask the men, are you getting sex from the women you want?
That's the market, right?
That's the market.
Yeah, the high value man theory creates false promises to men.
Women have no interest.
Know at a glance that you are a high value man.
And the sixth part is probably my favorite part, guys.
A high value man is useful to others and the group.
A lot of times you'll hear people say, I don't want to be used.
I don't want to be used.
No, I want to be used.
Why?
Because that means I'm useful.
High value men are in demand and you.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to keep going.
I like his definition for society, right?
I like his definition when talking about a man's usefulness and value, maybe to society.
However, I've often felt like there's two conversations we're having.
The reason I don't think this is accurate is because the older I got and the more mature I got, what I realized is these are the things that men value.
So if you're looking for a husband for your daughter, a man would think about this stuff.
But remember, we're living in a woman's world, which is the devil's world, and women care about other things.
A man's definition is based on facts, right?
How tall is he?
How much does he make?
It reminded me of the movie The Titanic.
There's a reason that women love that movie because the world is telling women to pick the men that are responsible, the 666s.
Our mothers, our fathers want us to select for resources, genetic seconds, but resources first.
They want us to select for men that give, give, give.
They want women to pick men that give us commitment.
They want us to pick men that give us money.
They want us to pick men that give us status.
The world does not understand why we pick men that give us nothing in return.
The men that take us on an emotional roller coaster, the world tells us not to pick them.
Now, my definition is there are really only two types of men to women.
These are the men that can make women feel something, and the men that Can't.
The men that are able to make young, attractive women feel something in the men that can't.
They must be able to get a large quantity of women.
They have to have a track record, right?
In the dating marketplace, not to society, a track record of getting young, attractive women.
How young?
Debatable.
How attractive?
Debatable.
Has to be young, attractive women.
Have to get women over a certain quality.
Right?
Can't just be like bipolar bitches, right?
He has to get a certain level of enthusiasm.
The women have to be enthusiastic about being with him.
He must, the women must, or not all of them, but a good chunk have to want to reproduce with him.
Right.
They have to, again, Kevin Samuel's definition assumes that women, you know, you get the sixes and women will watch you.
But it just, you know, I have a, I'm going to make the person broader so no one figures out who this is.
The Reproduction Requirement00:03:52
I know a guy who is an absolute loser, could not keep a job at freaking Panera.
I swear, I swear to God, Panera Bread could not keep a job.
Fat, completely overweight, going nowhere in life.
And I met his girlfriend, and she's like a 7.5.
And I'm sitting there being like, Are you sure?
And I think everybody has had this moment, right?
I think everybody's had a moment where they know a guy who has absolutely none of the things that he's listed and can pull hotter bitches than any of the men with all those things, right?
And there's a lot of cope.
I always hear cope, right?
And some of the cope is like, yeah, well, some of the cope is like, oh, well, I don't want to date.
It's like, you would if you could get young, hot bitches, you would.
It's like the same code, or, oh, you know, I don't want the problems that come with it.
Well, it's understandable, right?
But it just indicates you're not winning, right?
And I'm not saying I'm winning, right?
I'm not saying most people aren't winners in the game of love.
This is not the generation of good relationships.
This is not the generation of winners for this topic, but there are winners, right?
There are men that do it.
Leonardo DiCaprio has been going strong for how many years?
There's men like Leo everywhere.
Okay.
The women have to want his baby, not just any baby.
And I would actually add in the network can't be of high value men.
Who gives an F?
Like, women aren't looking at your contact list.
A network of women that are willing to bang you at any time.
A network of women that you've banged over the years that are willing to, you say, fuck, she says, when.
She could be married with two kids.
She's still coming.
And if you don't have that, well, I hate to say it, you just aren't a winner.
But that's like the NBA, right?
We have to quantify what the NBA is, what the A League is.
Got to get women under 25, got to get women over a six.
And they have to be very enthusiastic.
Now, remember, there's a B League, right?
Like a man might be an alpha that dates 30 year old women or 40 year old women, right?
There's guys, they're like, I can't compete in the NBA.
Let me go to the B League.
Let me go to the C League.
So, this is a definition that we can evolve a little bit.
But I just don't think when I listen to that video, I don't think women really care.
Not when they're young and hot.
And it's almost like the Kevin Samuels, the older men, the pragmatic men of the world are having a different conversation.
Women, it's either the men that get it or the men that don't.
They tend to advise women to pick men that would lead them to be in sexless marriages.
What women are saying is, I want men that display high value behaviors.
And the men come back and say, Well, look at looks, money, genetics.
Why Women Choose Less Status00:10:14
Why him?
And the women, we don't know how to articulate it.
But we're like, No, I like the men that display high value behaviors.
And I think this stream could help you understand your sisters, your mothers, et cetera.
Hold on.
So we're going to.
Shut up!
This is how women feel about the 666 men.
We're gonna watch this.
Don't you understand?
The water is freezing and there aren't enough boats.
Not enough by half.
Half the people on this ship are going to die.
Not the better half.
Come on, Ruth, get in the boat.
All intents and purposes.
Six feet, six figures.
I mean, I don't know what he's like in the bedroom, so I'm not going to.
But he's taller than Leo.
He's richer than Leo.
But Leo's that guy, right?
He's got the sauce.
You know, it's a pity I didn't keep that drawing.
It'll be worth a lot more by morning.
You unimaginable bastard.
Come on, Rose, darling.
There's plenty of room for you.
Come on, Rose.
You're next, darling.
Come into the boat, Rose.
Rose?
Get into the boat.
Rose?
Okay, Doug MPA said he's never seen this.
That was her fiance that the family wanted, right?
Remember, women love this movie.
We can learn something from the movies.
We can learn something about the psychology of women by the movies that women relate to.
Goodbye, Mother.
Rose?
Rose, come back here.
Are you calling?
Look at him.
What is it to be a whore to a gutter rat?
No way!
I'd rather be his whore than your wife.
No!
I said no!
This is the guy, right?
The 666 guy.
But he's got low value behaviors, right?
He's needy.
He's possessive.
He doesn't let her be herself, you know?
So she's going to go be herself, which is a whore with Jack.
And lower away.
Run!
Run together!
No, wait!
Run!
Yeah, that's what I would say.
Women.
Women like masculine men who go their own way and don't care what anyone else thinks.
And so, this is genuine desire, right?
She's giving up it all.
She's saying, fuck it.
I'm going to go be a gutter rat.
I'm going to give up the status.
I'm going to give it all up to be with this good deal.
Anyone in here?
Mr. Andrews, thank God.
Where would the master at arms take someone under arrest?
You have to get to a boat right away.
No, I'm doing this with or without your help, sir.
But without will take longer.
Take the elevator to the very bottom, go to the left, down the crewman's passage, then go right and left again at the stick.
Okay, risk in her life.
Okay.
Next one, the other movie that women love.
It's always cheating movies, and it's always the same psychology, right?
It's women cheating.
On the 666 guy with a guy that doesn't have those things, could have some of those things, right?
Okay, so the way I see it, I got three choices.
Like, this dude is a baddie.
Can we just keep it a buck?
Look at, I mean, this is like Chad Central.
One, I can shoot him.
Two, she's crying because she cheated on her husband or on her fiance, this guy she was engaged to.
And she cheated on him with her high school boyfriend who had none of those things.
She's cheating with a guy without it.
And again, the boyfriend or the fiance is showing low status behaviors.
And we don't know how to articulate this, but he's showing low status behaviors because he's about to forgive her, low key, or give her the option to stay.
I can kick the crap out of them, or three, I leave you.
But oh, that's no good.
You see, because none of those options give me you.
And in spite of everything, I love you.
Like, how cucked is that?
He said, In spite of everything, you just got railed by your ex from high school for like two weeks.
And in spite of that, I'm still interested.
He's signaling to her, I'm low status.
Because it doesn't matter if you have the 666.
If you display low status or low, like needy behaviors, then that's how we will view you.
I love you too.
I meant what I said when I gave you that ring.
I did too.
I did too.
It's just that when I'm with Noah, I feel like one person.
And when I'm with you, I feel like someone totally different.
What's she saying?
She's saying.
He makes me feel something you don't.
Women, this is how we feel.
And we display how we feel by who we fuck.
So if they're not banging you, they're not trying to bang you, right?
You're not.
It's just not you.
And it's okay, right?
Not everyone can be in the A league, right?
There's B leagues, C leagues, D leagues, you know.
Not everybody, like.
Not.
Everybody can make the leak.
Right now, there's an NBA in dating.
Look, it's normal not to forget your first love.
Now he's consoling her.
What a simp, right?
Yeah, someone said D League is right.
I love you, Allie.
But I want you for myself.
I don't want to have to convince my fiance that she should be with me.
You don't have to.
I already know I should be with you.
Should, right?
Should be with you.
And then she goes back to this guy.
To be fair, everyone in these movies are going to be giga chats because everyone's hot in Hollywood, or they used to be, not anymore, but.
Money, less status, just the guy that made her feel something.
All these
supers, I must have hit a nerve today, bro.
Brother number, thank you for the super.
Marry me.
I mean, that's low status.
See, like, when you say marry me, like, that now I'm going to hate you.
Like, even if we met, like, even if let's say I was like, yeah, let's go on a date, because you're like sending me money already.
It's like, why would you lead with that?
Lead with the sauce, you know?
If you don't know sauce, go learn some sauce and come back.
William, 50 bucks, thank you.
Pearl, never stop doing what you're doing.
Show these simps what's up.
Thank you.
Never underestimate the reckless stupidity of Bird.
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The 666 men are never in need of Bird.
Replace them.
Three.
Kevin did speak to that nightly.
I don't know.
Is that supposed to be?
What does the Bird stand for?
I don't get it.
Um This stream is to Doug MP.
I'm not reading your stuff till I go.
I'm getting through my thing and then you can come up.
Um, the stream is to help you understand your ex wives, your sisters, your mothers.
Yes, we're crazy.
We make terrible choices, but in a woman's world, it makes perfect sense.
It makes perfect sense.
A 666 guy to men is not a 666 guy to women.
You know, men oftentimes cite Tom Brady as an example of women will never be happy.
However, women will see Pete Davidson as more high value than Tom Brady.
And I noticed some that sounds insane.
Tom Brady is the goat.
And yes, the goat is good marketing, right?
He can market that to women.
Sorry, that gets our attention.
But if you don't have the IDGAF attitude to go with it, we don't care.
We do not care.
Because those men to us display courage in some capacity, the courage to do whatever the F they want, and despite societal norms.
Men who are successful, actually, I would argue, tend to have less of those traits with women because number one, they're busy working, right?
They don't have time.
To study high status and low status behaviors, number one.
Number two, they have more to lose, they have to be more cautious.
You can come through on this one.
Um, yeah, I'm going to offer call ins.
I would argue that the traits actually that women love, um, losers in a way embody better.
The problem with this point of view, right?
The point of view of the 666, if you're needy, we don't care about the 666.
Women will pick that fat, broke, I swear to God, so fat, so broke, such a loser over a guy that is needy with the sixes.
When women are in agenda mode, things change, right?
So when women are seeking money and status and fame, Women might pick the sixes for a little while to get her kid, to get her ring, but then cheat with the men that have high status, a high status mentality and behaviors.
He makes it seem like that if you get that checklist, you're in control of your marriage.
But really, the only people that seem to have control over women really are the players, the men willing to walk away easily.
Some men, this comes naturally to them.
They might have learned it from an uncle.
Most men, it doesn't because they're raised as defective women.
Again, if the men with all the sixes, the 666s, had such an easy time finding women, the matchmaking industry wouldn't be booming right now.
Matchmakers are high end people that like set each other up, right?
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And they cost a lot of money.
And a lot of times on paper, the matchmakers will set women up with these 666 guys and they go on the date and women just don't feel anything.
Right.
I look at 666 like college sports.
So I played volleyball and I was, you guys already know athletics was a huge part of my life.
It's something I'm really proud of.
And one thing that I'm really proud of is when I was 14, I started at one of the biggest clubs in the area.
There were two giant clubs and I was on the third team.
There's an A team, a B team, and a C team.
And not only was I on the C team, but I was a bench warmer.
And you might not know this, I'm very tall for a woman, but for that club, I was not tall.
I was actually short for my position.
I was a middle blocker, and for a Division I level, you want to be around 6'2.
I was six feet, two inches in sports is huge.
And so I was competing against girls that were 6'5, 6'2.
And the first year I played, I worked my butt off, but I stayed on the third team.
The second year I played, I was a starter on the third team.
The third year I played, I remember I was so proud of myself.
I made it to the second team.
I remember it was red, it was sky high red, and I made it.
And I was so happy.
I'm like, I'm off of the C team.
I'm on the freaking B team.
By the time I was 18, I made it to the ones team.
I made it from the third team to the ones team.
And every year I would take a girl out.
I would go and I would, girls that were taller, they're more athletic than me.
And what I would argue the sixes, they might get you a tryout for the ones team, right?
They want an athlete that's tall.
But I out competed women that jumped higher than me.
I mean, it's women's sports.
Who cares?
Right.
But, you know, just for the analogy, I don't know enough.
I don't watch athletics enough to use men's sports.
I know my own sports.
Because I had the right information, which was good coaches and a willingness to learn, and I was able to put my ego aside.
In this scenario, Tom Brady, Michael Jordan versus LeBron, there's natural athletes.
But a lot of times, if you put in the work and you work harder than them and you work smarter and you put your ego aside, a lot of times the men with less get more.
And the men with actually, they might, you know, many times, like there was a girl that was 6'5.
She never, she was 6'5 and never stepped foot on a college sports team.
She was a bench warmer.
She sure, she got drafted to a big school, but she never played.
Her last game she played in was in high school.
So the 666s, it's like being an athletic looking person.
You can get scouted by the top schools.
You can get in the gym.
You can get a tryout to the team.
You might even make the team.
But once the referee blows his whistle, it's game time, baby, and anything can happen.
I played against girls, I mean, that were 5'5, which is incredibly short.
And they made it, you know, there was like a 5'7 girl I know that went and played volleyball at Wisconsin, which is like the NBA of.
Or at least it was when I was in high school.
It was like the NBA of volleyball.
So, behaviors that turn women off, that make women not like you, is venting to women, explaining yourself to women to get her approval, saying yes to women in order to avoid making them upset, getting butthurt if she says no to sex or turns you down.
Women are wired to test for strength and abundance, and validation seeking fails every test.
Dominance Over Validation Seeking00:07:32
And signals, I have no options.
Please complete me.
Oftentimes, it creates a mother son dynamic instead of a man woman polarity, which destroys sexual attraction.
Validation seeking men is men's version of female borderline personality disorder, fear of abandonment, and pathological conflict avoidance.
So, when Kevin Samuels speaks, just as a woman, the way I hear him, it's like you're talking a different language.
It's okay.
I mean, yeah, he could have the 666s, and I guess that matters in a man's world, but in a woman's world, we're picking Pete Davidson over Tom Brady every time.
We're picking Russell Brand over Tom Brady.
Russell Brand divorced Katy Perry while Tom Brady got divorced because one has a better ability to lead in relationships, right?
One's willing to walk away.
When we have a choice of man, we rarely pick the guy who has everything.
I think frame, game, and being masculine is more important than these things.
I think that's actually what women pick for.
Men look for a list and they'll think, well, if I do this list, I'll get women.
And I don't think that's really, maybe you'll get old women, right?
But do they really count?
Ugly women, fat women?
I don't really think they count.
I wish I could put into words how much of a loser this guy was and how hot his girlfriend was.
The fat guy I told you guys that couldn't keep a job at Panera.
I just remember sitting there and just thinking, Are you?
And I think a lot of people have had this moment where everybody's like, What the hell do you see in this?
What?
But in all honesty, In all honesty, he was a good storyteller.
He was funny, right?
Goes pretty far.
The sixes might, they're like marketing.
It might get you noticed.
But if we talk to you and you demonstrate low status behaviors, if you give us too much comfort up front, eh.
Traits that women find to be high value, and you're welcome to add to these when I do the call in never giving a serious answer, being the fun guy, having boundaries, a dominant personality where she works to meet your expectations, saying no and not explaining why, not justifying it.
Expecting things from women, holding frame, not giving enough, dominant social status and leadership.
Frame is not performance, a dominance tactic.
This is not from me.
This is from Ryan Stone, but I just thought this was a good definition.
Frame and really, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
Frame is not a performance.
It's a dominance tactic or mask.
It's authentically who you are.
High value men have a robust frame that makes women adapt to them rather than reverse.
Low value signals, validation seeking or people pleasing make even kind acts look desperate while high value men make rough edges charismatic.
There's intellectual mental models, an understanding of intersexual dynamics, right?
There's something about, there's something that like women, we can't articulate, but there's something about being like with a man that understands us.
Like, you know, men that are always talking, they're like, oh, is she talking to other dudes?
Is she talking to other dudes?
Versus the guy that's like, well, how many, how many guys are in your, on your roster, right?
One understands, one is, you know, searching for a dream.
High value comes from consistent work in these areas, creating self respect, options, authority, expectations, and investments from others.
This includes strong enforced boundaries and self.
Being a benevolent dictator in your relationships, dominant personality with high standards where she works to meet your expectations.
Dinner dates are rewards for good behavior, not interviews for sex.
Saying no without justification, using techniques like broken record fogging or negative inquiries for assertiveness.
Leading and holding frame without seeking permission or validation.
Leaders lead, others follow or don't.
Don't adapt to please women.
A high value men set the tone and women adapt, avoiding nice guy manipulation, emotional boundary.
Traps or betification phases.
Building real value, abundance, fitness, fun, financially successful, and fucking.
This creates options so you're not needy.
Self interest and authenticity and over people pleasing.
Give without expectations.
Prioritize your mission.
Narcissists can seem attractive because they're authentic in their self focus.
Refuse manipulation unless value is offered in return.
Women reflect your value back.
If she's shitty, it's often signaling your low value.
Screen for compliance, set expectations early, and maintain abundance.
Actions and utility over feelings.
Frame is action based, work on yourself.
Okay.
In short, high value behaviors are those of a man who is solid, self serving.
Frame who, in a positive sense, offers real value while demanding respect and compliance in return.
Women become loyal and sexually available when they see you as the best option and be aroused by your behaviors, not by supplication.
A shorter or average looking guy with strong frame, confidence, dominance, and the ability to lead will outperform a tall, rich guy who's needy, reactive, low value.
Aloofness and impudence signal I have options and resilience better than height and money.
And I, when I was just reading about this stuff, honestly, I thought this was the most accurate way to put it here.
Hollywood Signals of Resilience00:05:57
Some players over time, Hollywood.
Now, to be fair, I have to use public figures.
So I know the Cope, when I do the slideshow, is going to be there famous.
How am I going to use an example?
I can't pull up my fat friend's Facebook.
So in Hollywood, everyone's attractive, right?
So the whole playing field, like the men in this PowerPoint look like they're competing with look like this chats.
And again, like Leonardo DiCaprio, I think he's a shorter chat, six, might be six.
He's a Chad, right?
I mean, that's Chad genetics.
But just because you're a Chad, just because you have the sixes, doesn't mean you get six, six, sixes result.
You might be a fumbler.
You might just not be able to catch a football.
So, ugly players.
This dude was one of the most notorious players in the 20s.
Five, five, Charlie Chaplin.
Banged like all of the girls in the roaring 20s.
Can you imagine losing your bitch to this guy?
Jack Nicholson.
I know he's the GOAT, but like he's competing with Brad Pitt.
Like, you have to understand the women talking to Jack Nicholson.
You might think, oh, well, she's talking to Jack Nicholson.
Well, she could also talk to Brad Pitt.
Like, it doesn't matter.
Once you get to a certain, okay, if you're in the A League and you're talking to the hot 18 to 25 year old women, you realize they can talk to any hot guy.
He's fat, right?
Oh, this guy.
We're going to watch his game.
This is him hitting on Jennifer Lawrence.
And the Oscar goes to Jennifer Lawrence.
Exciting moment.
It was just really exciting.
It was just really shocking.
I think I was just, that's the first time I think I've ever felt like actual shock.
You can see it.
Oh, you got a fan here.
No, if you want to talk politics, we can.
Thank you.
Yeah, you're being really rude.
Good to see you.
Oh my God.
Thank you.
I loved all your movies.
Oh, really?
Do I look like a new girl move?
I thought about it.
Is he still here?
I need a rear view mirror.
I was going to ask you, what are you going to remember about tonight?
I think it is.
Have you met him before?
No.
Hi.
I know Jennifer.
Hi.
Yeah, this is my life now.
Hey, Jeff.
Hey, Jennifer.
How are you?
Hold on.
I'm going to continue.
Then we got the next one.
So he's got Jennifer Lawrence swooning.
Now, this is a guy talking about how he stole his bitch.
To steal your girlfriend.
Is this true?
Is this a.
You know, Laura Funboy, right?
I was there.
I had a front row seat for all of us.
It was amazing.
It's a really wonderful story.
I went to a party and.
First of all, this is like when Jack was Jack.
Oh, man.
This is like.
Lakers, court seat, Batman, Joker.
Oscars, yeah.
So, and I was Squirty Spade.
So, we already see the future outcome.
But we were there, we were dating, and we went to this party, and we were smoking a spliff.
He said, You want to smoke a dupe.
So, sure, why not?
Why would you ever say that?
Jack, ask.
You got to say absolutely.
So, smoke it up.
Halfway through, he goes, Hey, Spade, I think I'm going to ask out your girlfriend here.
Okay, so that behavior right there.
He told another dude to his face, I'm going to ask out your bitch.
I mean, do you see, like, that gets a woman wet.
I got to be honest.
It's like, it's the boldness, right?
I go, huh?
I don't really get it.
I go, all right, all right.
And then later she goes, What are you doing, dude?
You want to put up a fight for me?
I go, Well, first of all, I go, Are you going to go out with him?
I don't know.
Plus, he outranks me.
He's cooler.
He's richer.
He's better looking.
Like, I get how it works.
It's okay.
You're going to do what you're going to do.
I can't.
She goes, Dude, he's worse than Trump.
He's gross.
I would never.
I go, Okay.
Yeah, the more women say we're not going to bang somebody, the more likely we're just going to bang them.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, Oh, I would never just wait.
I guess, I don't know.
So immediately she started dating him after that.
And I found out.
But yes, this is the bit.
This is what you found out.
National Fire called me and told me.
Because they're in a car accident.
Hey, you hear your girlfriend's in a car accident.
And I go, My girlfriend, and they go, Yeah, she's with Jack Nicholson.
I go, and the guy couldn't love telling me more.
Wait, they're together right now.
He's like, Yeah, dude, friends.
I go, What?
And he goes, She crawled out of the sunroom and said, I can't be here.
I have a boyfriend.
I go, Oh, now I'm your boyfriend.
I look like an idiot across the board, but I still see him a lot.
I like him.
He's do you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You see him.
Where do you see Jennifer?
No, you don't have dinner with Jennifer.
Society Value Versus Market Value00:15:50
All right, so then we got here we go back here.
Oh, no, my bad.
We got Russell Brand.
Now, again, Russell Brand is competing with these guys, and yet he still pulled a bunch of hot bitches.
I mean, he, you remember Orlando Bloom, I would say, is conventionally more attractive than Russell Brand.
And yet, Katy Perry divorced Russell Brand, divorced Katie.
And this is how Katy talked about this is how, oh, it actually, and Katy Perry wouldn't have sex with Orlando Bloom unless he did the dishes.
Orlando Bloom!
Okay.
I had a story that was in the news this week that we all covered.
Let me help you.
Okay, good.
So, there's this guy who fancies himself a pickup artist.
His name is Julian Blank.
Yes.
And he charges hundreds of dollars and he trains thousands and thousands of men around the globe to basically trick women into going home with them.
You are a bona fide pickup artist.
Now, even that phrase.
You're a charmer.
Oh, well, one second.
Now, let me address this because I think what's implied in that whole language is that women are somehow a commodity.
Now, I think when I was younger, I had a.
Young men really want women and they don't know how to get them, you know.
And I think they're very vulnerable to ideas like, oh, you can.
Pick up women with techniques and ideas, but the truth is, you have to be loving and open and vulnerable and tender and caring to people.
When I was younger, I would have probably been found ideas like a pick up artistry attractive yeah, but when you get a little more sophisticated, you realize that there is no way of tricking anybody into doing things that they don't want to do.
That can be anything but negative for both parties involved.
So what is your secret?
Uh, my secret is that I know that within you there is a limitless divine beauty, and within me as well.
And if I connected that, then we'll be okay.
And Chris, the guy.
He's good for everybody.
Everybody's good for myself.
There's no secret to that.
Look at.
We got him here where he's hitting on.
He's picking up eight girls at once.
How did that happen?
How did what happen?
How did you suddenly just materialize?
Well, just in the way that all human beings arrive at different places.
There is no unique element.
I just put up.
Come here in a car.
I just went to the dunny.
I know that.
I've seen some stuff.
And when I came out.
Hang on, someone's got a glass.
There's a coffee.
You ordered a coffee.
Cheers, darling.
Cheers.
Someone want water.
Thank you.
Water for you there as well, Ross.
Oh, that's very kind of you.
Thank you.
Thank you, a band of attractive girls.
Ding, yes.
There's a lot of attractive girls.
We were discussing.
I notice, Yuzi, that your entire environment is entirely swamped with estrogen laden maidens.
What's going on here?
What have we done to this colony?
How we do.
You're in love.
Well, I must say, I commend you.
Is there any downsides?
I really, is there downsides to just being with different women all the time?
I will tell you, Susie, that yes, there is.
Because sometimes you think, I'm so lonely.
I wish I had a wife.
So you're comparing yourself to the littlest hobo.
A dog.
To a little dog.
Listen, I'm not saying I've got the morality of a dog.
I've got the morality of a man.
I'm aware of angels.
I'm aware of eternity.
I'm aware of the end.
Just a charming guy, right?
Um, so in girl world, it's like the guy that's fun and can make the room laugh.
That's more of what we care about, uh, rather than the six, six, like that's more of what men care about, in my opinion, right?
Um, but.
I will say, I don't know everything.
And I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
You know, I'm not here to say, oh my gosh.
Hold on.
This is attached.
I'm not here to say that my experience is everybody's experience.
I'm not here to say that.
That's why I have you guys call in to give your experience.
So, my statement is that I don't think that women care about the 666s.
We care about the way that the men make us feel.
Now, again, there's the argument that women have been saying this for a millennia.
Women are the ones that came up with this.
But I would argue that women say a lot of things, and women, we bang men that have none of those things all the time, constantly.
So, anyways, I'm going to read the super chats.
Then I'm going to bring up Doug MPA to make his case.
I'm going to let him go uninterrupted.
And then I have some callers, and we're going to take them.
Really, this is just about giving your take on this.
Do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
Am I making shit up?
Am I completely off base?
You guys can go in.
All right.
So, Pearl, you're so right about this.
Thanks for being a voice for us sub five males.
I love you and I only simp for you.
Well, I don't know.
All right.
Pearl in LA, everyone's simping.
Pearly Gate, let us call it.
Well, The call lines in the chat.
The moment you stop caring, you win.
The power of relationship lies with whoever cares less.
Frame bosses get a higher relationship return on investment than the nice guy.
High value men have purpose, and women isn't it.
Well, again, but this is where I disagree with the definition.
You could be high value to society, right?
But again, we're talking about the dating marketplace.
And I'm going to go back, I'm going to reread my definition.
You have to get a large quantity of women.
You have to be able to have sex with them.
Okay.
That, what the quantity is, debatable, but I would see at least over 20, 30, if you're over a certain age, at least, must be able to get a certain quality of women.
Right.
Maybe your body count has to be higher than the average woman's body count.
Okay.
You have to get a certain level of enthusiasm from the women.
The women can't be ugly and fat and old.
Okay.
How ugly, how young, how not fat, debatable, but it just can't be like 50 year old broad.
So it just does not count.
Okay.
Women have to want to reproduce with him.
I'm not saying he does it, right?
Maybe he has a strong pullout game, you know?
But at some point, you got to be selected for that, even if it's just a baby daddy.
You know what I mean?
If anything, that's almost better than a husband, a baby daddy.
A network of women.
Instead of a network of men, I think it should be a network of women willing to bang you.
You got next.
She's got a man.
She's got a husband.
You call, he's gone.
Naisky.
Nada.
Right.
Okay.
So when you guys call in, you can give thoughts on anything I've said.
If you think I've missed something, you disagree.
This is what I call a safe space.
So you're willing to disagree.
And I want your thoughts.
Do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
So, first up, we're going to bring on Doug MPA.
Welcome to the show.
I'm going to go down for a minute and let you go.
Oh, wait.
I can't go down.
Okay.
Never mind.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So, Pearl and I were talking about this earlier today.
And this is one of the few things that we, We're on okay, so guys, letting women determine you your value is an L, period.
Like Pearl said earlier, women don't know what they want.
So if you spend your whole life letting women determine your value, you already lost.
Number one.
Number two, there's a small pool of men that have the 666s and even a smaller amount of men that have game.
At some point, you either have game or you don't.
You usually figure that out in college.
If you don't have game by college, you better get the 666s because it gives you a better chance at any kind of results.
You need to get the interview.
If you look before you get the job in every aspect of life, and you have to have a good looking resume, the 666s are your resume, right?
And then there has to be a separate metric between what men determine as high value and what women do, and just stick with the male version of high value because it'll get you further places, okay?
Now, if you determine your worth based upon women sleeping with you, we already have a group of men who the majority of them.
Base their success on how many women sleep with them.
They're called black guys.
How's that working for us?
I said quality.
You got to add in quality.
No, no, no.
How's that working for us?
You want to see what men as a whole who judge their success and their value on sleeping with women?
Look at a bunch of us black guys and look how that works.
Exactly.
Right.
So, and then if all you have is game, you're going to have a problem because the clock always runs out with women.
When all you have is game, they're going to start wondering how you're going to be able to protect, how you're going to provide, how you're going to do a lot of things in life because men that only have game are on a clock.
And then I would also say that thinking that a man is just going to run through women his entire life, just run through women, unless he's rich, is unrealistic, right?
And then modern women are delaying everything, they're delaying getting married.
They're having kids, everything.
There will be a time in most women's lives where she will try to find the guy with the 666s.
It's usually after she's been run through, she's been through all the fun time, guys.
And you may be saying, oh, yeah, so the 666s are going to lead to you getting a reformed whore.
Most guys are going to end up getting a reformed whore anyway.
So, yeah.
And then the 666s.
Yeah.
So I think that women, the 666 thing has been around since I've been on this planet.
I'm in my mid 40s, right?
I just think that it's a delayed thing now.
And once again, I have that term, a buzzer beater, where between the age of 33 and 37 is usually when women want to set up down, get married, and have a kid.
That's when they want the 666s because they want a guy with stability, they want a guy who's six foot tall, so genetically.
He's viable, but I will always think that the 666s will get you looking for.
If you don't have game, which most men don't, I would argue that you're more likely to get the 666s than you are to have game.
So if you don't have game, which most guys don't, the only way to get more of an interview or get in the door to be able to make women feel that way is to exude wealth, be six foot tall, and have a good amount of fitness.
I have one rebuttal and then I'm going to take the next caller.
Is that all?
I wanted to give you the floor.
Do you have anything else you want to get out?
That's it.
Okay.
My one rebuttal is there's a difference between value in society and value in the dating market.
There has to be some burden of performance in order to say that you're top tier in the dating market.
Like you can't say that you're high value in the dating market if you slept with zero women.
There has to be a burden of performance, they have to do something.
That does not mean you're low value in society.
It does not mean you're not useful to the world.
But again, when it comes to the dating market, that's what I'm referring to.
Second thing is that I believe that if women cared about the 666s, we would choose it at 23 and 20, not 33.
So you're welcome to give your rebuttal.
And then I'll let you have the final word on it.
And then we're going to bring up callers.
The callers, you're welcome to say you agree, disagree, any comments.
But yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
We're in the.
The dating market, it's kind of hard to use that as a metric because the dating market is full of a bunch of fat, tattooed, feminist, Western hookers.
I want, guys, this is new to my platform.
I think that you should marry.
Okay, most of you guys aren't going to get genuine desire sex in the West.
It's just not going to happen.
So go to some third world country, go to the Ukraine and rescue Svetlana from some war torn village from Russia, right?
And she wants a green card.
And she will screw you nice and good for that green card for three years.
If you marry a foreign woman for three years, you will get a traditional wife who will give you honest desire up until she gets that green card.
Then she's going to dip out.
But at least you'll have three years of what most American guys will never see in their entire lives.
That's number one.
And then number two, the dating market.
I go back to guys, I'm black.
I can say it.
My group is the biggest group where they get all the success on the dating market.
And they don't, they're not successful in the high value side of the men aspect, achieving education success.
And how is that working out for us?
That's it.
Okay.
All right.
We're going to bring up French OG.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you for coming.
What is your thought on the topic?
Do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
For me, it's all a matter of cost.
It's about what are you willing to renounce in the sense of it's when's your highest value?
What is your choice that you make when you have the highest value that matters?
It's not when you basically are running out of options or running out of time.
If you're running out of time, You're by default, not first choice, right?
So, the thing is, it's like, yes, I mean, you know, by the way, I love the dog, the thing you know about the black guys, you know, that's true, that's so true, that's so true, right?
But, um, the thing is, it's like, okay, fine, get the six sixes for yourself, right?
Perfect, because you don't want to be a broky, fine, okay?
Um, however, it's like, if you're selling six sixes just to basically get a Reformed, that's fine to get a reform.
We're most likely all going to be always horse, so it doesn't matter.
But the worst case is that basically the reformed horse don't you that much because she goes with you for the wrong reasons.
Respect Beyond Physical Attraction00:15:10
Thing is, it's like if you go with a girl, you're right, it's like irrespective of body can't respect it, but you want her to at least have fun with you.
Because what's the point?
Are you a nanny?
Are you like an adult daycare center that you pay for her to have her company that basically don't give you a not even a good sloppy?
No, you don't want that.
Yeah no, but I, you know, not everything is equal.
But really, if you like, you can be with a woman that just wants you for your money and you can be with a woman that actually likes you because you have a good personality or whatever.
I mean whatever we want to say, but like there's a good match.
Those are not the same thing and it's like even like I work with um with a, with a guy who uh makes top, top notch, uh picture right, so he gets a lot of guys are successful, crypto bros based in Miami in us right, and the amount of guys that are successful, not necessarily all, I mean, they have definitely the six feet, the six figures, and I don't know about the six inches, right?
But let's work on averages, okay?
And they are completely useless, even though they have what on the surface is a 666.
Because at the end of the day, it's like we want as guys, right?
So I understand we want to have those type of structures, those type of logic-driven things.
But at the end of the day, Women don't function by logic.
They function by emotions, right?
For example, the main thing guys make a mistake for, for example, is like they answer logically to her questions, but then she gets bored because she answered logically to her question because they project their way of communicating to her way of receiving.
When basically, when you basically hijack threads and you make it fun, then you change the dynamic to your shape and they enjoy it much more with you.
And then you get a better positive outcome that those 666 guys have no understanding of female language.
Cannot get and even that because they cannot get sick, they cannot feel seen.
Those women they cannot give better, more, more of them.
So, yes, it's good to have for the long term for setting up, but really, I mean, I'm 36, right?
And I'm seeing like some former whores, right?
I mean, I look, they're they're working real estate, they recruitment and all this.
And I see them with guys, you know, that do all right, but you can tell they're harmless, they you know, or they're clueless, they have no fucking clue, right?
And they just happen to be there and say, Yeah, you.
You're gonna be for me and you're like thank God it's not me when I see when I look at them.
I'm just So, really, it's like the worst thing is like get the money.
Yeah, get the money, do all this, right?
But don't draw some type of sense of vindication that you're going to get something better because of it because you may not.
That's really it.
Doug MPA, do you have a rebuttal or any thoughts to that?
I mean, yeah.
What we're saying is, I like how you said that the 666, you should do it for yourself more than women because, guys, you know.
Remember, feminism freed women up from being barefoot and pregnant, but then it freed you up from being a pack mule, but you still owe it to yourself to be the best version of yourself.
And anytime you think that something is going to get you something, it's you making the mistake of thinking that you can control outcomes.
So a lot of guys think that they're going to get the 666 and have access to all these women.
It's just, you know, probably not going to happen.
So don't have those expectations.
That's what he's trying to say.
Yeah, right.
And also, I want to say, right, I mean, I'm six foot.
I've been six figures for a very short period of time.
But I was the most successful when I was the fattest.
No joke, because basically I had not much to busy offer outside of good personality, good chit chat, and good fun.
And even though I was far from being the most quote unquote attractive thing, but there's also another key matter, which is 666, and you touched upon that, Doug, which is very important when it's a gender mode.
Do you want to be dealing with women in the gender mode?
No, they're fucking bollocks.
That's also the thing.
It's like, how do I say?
It's like when they're young, unless they basically are already transactional driven, they don't really care about the 6Xs.
They mostly care if you look good looking, you know, and if you're fun, because at the end of the day, they don't think further than a few hours away.
Yeah, I agree.
Women behave however they want because there's no consequence if we're being honest.
Focus on yourself.
Okay, so I'm going to take the next caller, French OG.
I'm going to keep you on, but you're welcome to stay or go.
No, no, no, no.
Shiv, welcome to the show.
Hey, my brother.
What's up, man?
It's been a minute.
So, what do you think?
Do women care about the six feet, six figures, six inches?
I'm going to let my dog out really quick.
Doug MPR, you go back and forth with him.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
So, I think the height, I think being a decent amount taller does tend to matter.
But I think it's in ratios, right?
So, like, you know, ironically, I have a cousin right now.
She just got broken up with.
She was in a relationship for seven years.
And all the, and mind you, she makes $320,000 a year at Meta.
So, at Facebook, she makes a lot of money.
And she's very hot, like objectively.
She'll get mad at me if I show a photo, but I'm happy to.
But uh, so why's the single?
Um, well, he ended up basically, uh, she was like, 'Hey, what are we?' Oh, yeah, there you go.
This guy's a player, so I actually want to do it.
One of respect, one of respect, I do think it's a little messed up to go seven years and then she's like, 'When are we going to live in together?
When are we going to move next steps?' And he's like, 'Basically, you're just seven years, bro.' Yep, yep, I know it's crazy, it's crazy.
But with her, ironically, and I've seen prior to that, she dated quite a bit.
Not one guy I've ever met that she's dated made any money.
They were all brothers.
All of them?
All of them, all across the board.
What's the common occupation, Shiv?
Were they all personal trainers and stuff?
No, so a lot of them will be, a lot of them are like educated, like went to an okay college or whatever.
But a lot of them are like trying to make their side hustle.
They're trying to build a YouTube channel or they're trying to.
Build a startup or whatever, but it's going absolutely nowhere for 10 plus years, right?
Yeah.
And so I find the only one I've seen is the height differential.
And like we've seen the data on dating apps that, on dating apps, it's hard to get matches if you don't put your height at around six feet or above.
But I think the other two are not true because I've seen, I think, especially nowadays when women make money, you can't be completely broke.
But I've noticed that they're a lot more lenient.
On what you make if they come with a career and income themselves.
And then, two, I think this is interesting.
And I used to have this Japanese business partner, and I could just tell from that that, and he's been very publicly to everyone about, you know, he's not the most packing, right?
And these girls would come over and after, like, because we rented this huge mansion at one point in El Dorado Hills, California.
And these girls afterwards, they would talk about how it was like the best they've ever been with.
And I was always so confused about it, right?
I was like, I don't get it.
These girls look like they were with Tyrone after.
Right.
And basically, it was because he was extraordinarily toxic.
And so, for you guys, if you're not making it up there, just increase the toxicity and increase the dirty talk mode one hour of the crew.
Just up all of that to like maximum setting.
Girls don't know how to measure, man.
Don't know how to measure.
He publicly said his was about three ish, a little over three.
And I'm kidding you.
I can't make this up.
I can't make this up.
These girls would talk about how big he was.
Like, this is how dumb they are.
Like, because it's all in the mental for women.
So, I think I've just seen, and that's just one example of many people.
I'm in San Francisco, it's Asian Central out here.
And the ones who are really good with women, man, I'm telling you, they are extraordinarily toxic, dirty talk, all that.
So, I think that one, you can make up for it in different ways.
Doug MPA, agree or disagree?
What he said about height is true because, you know, I'm almost 6'3.
I'm just below 6'3, and I know my height has gotten me places.
And so, and then the toxicity, you're still talking to a guy, you know, I'm still trying to learn how to be toxic.
And any step towards being toxic is a step in the right direction.
So, yes, I would agree with him 100%.
Okay.
Next, we got Sean.
Hey, my brother.
Tell me, do you think women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
Yeah, they do.
For sure, for sure.
But it's kind of like you were saying, Pearl.
Sometimes they care about some things and sometimes they don't.
Like people, since you guys are, or most men are not in the 666, they don't realize that after a while they get tired of that.
And then they decide to transfer into something else, like a guy that they can roll over, a beta box.
So, it just depends on what season that person's in.
Some guy made a great observation.
He was just saying, like, women now have been like, okay, if I secure the beta first, then I can hot wife and cuck and get the actual alpha later.
Like, the beta will be okay with it.
So, it depends.
I've seen younger women run for beta bucks more, actually.
Yeah.
Or, how do you open a relationship?
I've totally seen that.
22 ish to 24.
They have like some simp boyfriend they cheat on.
Yeah, he's okay with it.
Yeah, he's like their Instagram boyfriend.
Have you seen those TikTok accounts and Instagrams where the woman's married and she's poly, but the guy isn't?
And she's like, these women are building their platforms by having their husband on camera saying that he's monogamous and she's not.
And they literally look like, it's like, blow, it's like, bro, blink twice if you need help.
Have you seen the Piers Morgan woman?
The Piers Morgan's wife.
Oh, yeah.
I would also just like to add to it.
I hear guys often say, be toxic or don't care.
Listen, guys, the key is to be indifferent, number one.
Also, be destined on your own life.
And then, number two, or number three, would just be like, have some testicular fortitude, goddamn.
What you call being toxic is what I call being a fucking man.
Like Jesus Christ.
Like, I remember that massive amount of time I'd be like, yo, I tell girls what it is and how I live and the reality.
They're like, yeah, but if you say that, she ain't going to give you the coochie.
And I never met coochie better than the dick I give.
So I'm not really pressed about your little pussy.
I'm more impressed about how you fold into my construct because I am the fucking man.
So at the end of the day, if you don't fill that void, then okay, that's cool.
Go find a different guy.
I'm not really tripping.
So, you got to be like that guy that you were showing in the video.
You got to be charismatic.
You got to be entertaining, not only just a 666.
If you're a freaking goofball and you're boring, then they're not going to like that neither.
So, you got to just be a holistic character at a bunch of different things.
Elon Musk got mad money, right?
But Grimes was running him into the dirt.
So, it's like, you can't be a mama's boy.
You got to fucking beat that.
Most of you guys are mama boy and looking for a girl to be a goddamn mama.
I'm looking to her.
To be my goddamn robot at the end of the day.
So it's a whole different energy.
And if you call it toxic, then I get it.
You play a different role in society.
And when I'm done with her, you can marry her.
I want to ask Sean.
Sean, so there's Kevin Samuels' idea of a high value man, and then Pearl's position is that there's the high value in the dating market.
And I said, you want to stick with Kevin Samuels' definition because we already know what being high value in the dating market is, because who's the biggest group of guys in the United States who let women.
The sexual marketplace determines their value.
It's us.
And how's that working for us?
I mean, yeah, it's working for you in the penitentiary.
It's working for you in the goddamn basement.
So, yes, I'm a big proponent of that.
Like, I have friends who, I mean, they're like that guy.
I ain't even joking.
But at the end of the day, they're always limited by not going out there and building anything.
So, I'm just massively different because I'm a black guy who's a multimillionaire and retired early.
So, that's always been massively different.
So, always been like, yo, you can have it all.
And so, guys really don't understand that.
And so, they end up just, you know, leaning into that.
I get girls, I get girls.
And then it's like, yeah, but you live where you live.
Yeah, but it wouldn't even fall into my category because I said they have to be over a certain quality, and we know what weight size black guys are going for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I said six or higher.
No, What you're always killing me with that because as I go overseas, I always see some big girls looking at me, and I'm like, nah, I'm good, bro.
Don't look my way.
Look, look, look.
I've got a story, right?
So, before I used to have hair and I was more white compatible, right?
And then I decided to shave my hair.
And then what happens is I had an army of pogs thinking I was game.
It's our fault.
It's our fault.
Us black men in America, we ruined it for everybody.
We keep ruining it.
Yeah.
Thanks a lot, Doug and Sean.
Thanks a lot.
All I'm saying is, in order to say like they're good with women in the marketplace, there has to be like a body of work.
You know what I mean?
Like you can't say Derek Jeter isn't good with women when he gave herpes to half of New York City.
That's true.
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Yep.
It's there.
And so it's like, I don't, Kevin Samuels' definition, I just think it's missing something because I know a lot of rich guys that have everything he listed that haven't gotten laid or like they're not getting laid in years or the women they get are fat.
So it's like, oh, yeah, yeah.
In fact, for my cousin, I just texted her today.
My friend, he's 35.
He's a virgin, but he's tall, skinny, good looking.
He makes $550,000 at Google Cloud.
He's slightly awkward, slightly.
But he has all those metrics and he is in the 6666, everything, right?
And yeah, it doesn't matter.
He can't get laid to save his life.
It's hard to watch.
I'm going to add up Mike.
You get preference, guys, if you have your camera on, just so you know.
What do you think about these six feet, six figures, six inches?
Do you think women care about it?
Good evening, Pearl and Doug.
I think it depends on what they're looking for.
It's a matter of priorities.
And a lot of times it has to do with their family of origin.
Like if they got raised in a really good family, they're going to be looking for different things than.
Like, if they're in a single mother household, for example, I think that generally speaking, if we're looking at the vast majority of them, they're going to prioritize feelings first because we see what they're looking at when they're at their hottest and what they're picking.
However, when they're only going off of feelings, it often looks like they want to build a better beta at the same time.
They're never exactly satisfied if it's only feelings or only status.
Ideally, they want both.
And regardless of what side of the equation the guy is on, they're going to try to get.
The man to be the other kind of person, too.
And it isn't until they realize one way or the other that he doesn't have either side of it that they move on to something else.
So I think that generally speaking, feelings will fade without the structure of all the other things that you have to have right in your life as a guy to maintain that.
I think that generally speaking, women want a man who wants them, not a man who needs them, because neediness is like an automatic L for most guys in the marketplace.
And women also want what the other women in their peer group want.
So, a lot of times, their coven that they're with dictates what kind of men qualify for them.
And so, I think that generally speaking, men are better served being their own mental point of origin and being high status and knowing how to push her buttons and the buttons of the women around her.
And of course, knowing the plumbing definitely helps.
Wow.
Do you guys have any agreements, disagreements with what he said?
I have something to say about the family thing.
Go ahead.
So, most stereotypes have a little bit of truth behind them.
If it's a family thing, why are there so many religious girls, Catholic, Christian, Mormon, who have everything that conservatives say that they should have to be successful, a good family and stuff?
They end up being whores, OnlyFans, having half black children.
Like, I don't think that family argument really stands up much anymore.
I'll disagree with you and I'll show you, I'll tell you why.
Because most of the time, the people that are purporting these things are the same whores that are going to go ahead and move on to Christianity after the fact to go ahead and cover their whoredom.
Right?
And so, when you go ahead and consider that as the source, that's going to go ahead and change your perspective.
It's not like these women are coming from families where the husband and the wife.
Were each other's first, and then they were, you know, the man was taking care of business throughout the marriage.
If you have those circumstances, which don't get me wrong, it is very rare for that to be the case in the common day right now, but that's just really more of a rebuttal to what you were saying is a lot of these people are coming from broken homes or homes where they purport Christianity, but they don't actually do the thing.
I don't know, I know, I'd say 50 50 on kids and families in my experience, yeah.
It's like half and half.
I know someone where the parents were each other's first and they had a lot of kids, and about one joined a Thrupple, one was a virgin on a wedding day.
Just my experience.
Go ahead.
I would say that there's also socioeconomic factors.
It's like when they're in their 20s, it's a bit all over the place.
There's like, you can find everything.
But then when times get serious, you tend to find that they end up with people more or less like them from a socioeconomic background or even, you know, Religious or traditional background.
But in the meantime, they basically have fun until they can't have fun anymore.
That's pretty much it.
Yeah, sounds about right.
Whoever at Apple invented that purple cross emoji thing needs to get fired because every woman with that, it's the Christian, the horror to Christian pipeline on Twitter is insane.
It's absolutely insane.
It's more of a red flag than a green flag, that's for sure.
Ecclesiastical whores, man.
Mark, welcome to the show.
What's your thought on do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
Hello, everyone.
They do and they don't.
It depends.
What are they looking for?
If they're looking for what we call beta bucks, yeah, they're looking for that.
They're looking for security after their fun has run out.
Others are not.
They don't care about that because they're just looking for fun.
You got to take a look at what are her choices?
What is she actually looking for?
What is she prioritizing?
Some do, some don't.
I wanted to talk about the religious girls.
You guys are asking why some of them turn out to be whores.
Basically, it has to do with them, they've been told, don't do this, it's wrong, without acknowledging the free will to decide for themselves that actually, yes, you can go down that path, but the results are not the results that ultimately you want at the end of your life.
So they go to explore it, and then they become reformed whores if they decide, actually, no, my parents were right.
They just didn't do a good job of teaching it.
I come from a religious family.
I ran away from home.
I left Christianity because my parents didn't respect free will.
They were, you could say, controlling.
You got to do it my way or you're going to hell.
You got to do it my way or you're going to hell.
It was like, Sorry, that doesn't work.
You're violating the free will that you want to be respected in your life.
That's why it doesn't work.
That's why you see it play out.
You see some religious girls stay religious, stay pure, but that's because their free will is being respected.
They're being told, yes, you can make this choice, but here are the results if you go down that path.
The ones where they're being controlled and they're being punished for not doing what the parents think is right, yeah, they rebel.
It happens.
It's in our human nature.
We don't like to be controlled.
We like to have autonomy.
We like to decide for ourselves what we want to do, what we don't want to do.
This is what you see.
Playing out.
That example you showed from the notebook, everybody's saying, Hey, take the big rich guy.
And she's like, No, no, I want the guy who makes me feel something.
So, this thing of the 666s versus feelings, learn to be both.
You can do both.
You can have the wealth that attracts women who want you for your wealth, that security, but you can also know how to make her feel something so she stays loyal.
But you got to understand the game you're playing.
You got to understand what you're attracting.
Wealth makes it easier to attract women with a concubine mentality.
They'll fuck you.
They'll sleep with you, but they're not necessarily loyal to you.
That's why they don't get the position of a queen.
They get to be a concubine.
This is why you see, like ancient times, rich, powerful men, they had the wife who was the mother of his children who carried on his legacy, but he also had a bunch of concubines.
The wife knew not to argue with the concubines, and the concubines knew, I don't have the position of the wife.
I can't touch that, or I lose my position.
You got to decide what do you want in life?
You want to be that rich, wealthy man who has a wife and concubines, or you don't want to mess with the wife?
You don't want to put in the work and effort.
You just want concubines.
You can do that.
Some of us decide, you know what?
I don't really want to play that game.
I don't like the outcomes of that game.
I want a different outcome.
So I'm going to play a different game.
Me personally, I'm more interested in the actual marriage, the biblical marriage, not the simping stuff you see going on right now.
I don't want that.
I want the actual marriage where you actually have fulfillment in your life, where at the end of your life, you say, This is the family I raised.
I'm proud of who they have grown up to become.
I'm proud of the decisions they've made.
I have no regrets over the work I put in to make them become amazing, wonderful human beings.
So I'm looking at this like the dating market.
That's not the marriage market.
That's the concubine market.
That's the girlfriend market.
That's not where you go looking for a wife.
So I'm not playing that game.
I'm not optimizing for it.
I'm doing something else.
I'm learning okay, if I actually want marriage, I actually want that kind of fulfillment.
What do I have to do on my end to actually be attracted to the women who actually want the same thing?
I got to go study that.
That's what I'm choosing to do.
I see people who want the marriage outcomes, but they're not doing the marriage stuff.
They're playing the game of just dating, sleeping around.
That's your choice, you want to do that?
Fine, I've made that choice, I've played that game, and I've seen the outcomes.
It's fun, will it last, but you always got to move on to the new thing because it doesn't last.
And at the end of the day, you don't have that sense of fulfillment.
You want to call me names?
That's fine, but I get it, okay?
Yeah, I think the issue is you know, who's getting the virgin brides or the virgin women?
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It's the guys like Leo, right?
Yeah, I agree, I agree because they're playing the game, yeah, cool.
Um, thanks for calling in, Mark, I appreciate it.
Okay, next we're going to bring up Donnie.
Welcome to the show, Donnie.
What is your thoughts on the topic?
Do women care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
All right, cool.
I'll try to be quick.
I know it's a busy line.
You can bring in Big Kahuna next.
You know, we're chatting back and forth.
I'll keep it short.
Some sixes matter more than others.
Like, he doesn't, Devin Samuels didn't address the face, but six pack abs, you know, that lean physique.
Where you're like lean in tone, that tends to correlate with a good looking face.
There's a lot of research that shows you don't have to be six feet tall, but women at the very least tend to look up to a guy that's taller than them overall.
It's better to be tall than to be short.
Money in this day and age doesn't really matter that much.
Like, the best example in recent history was Leonardo DiCaprio stealing Jeff Bezos's girl.
Jeff Bezos is almost a trillionaire.
He has millions of employees.
He got his girlfriend stolen by some pretty boy actor who made far less money than him.
To sum it up, looks matter more than game.
And I'd even argue, looks is your game.
You can't even be a bad boy unless a girl thinks you're attractive.
All that be selfish, be out for yourself, be dominant.
You can't do that if a girl thinks you're ugly.
They'll just think you're a creep.
If you're hot, You get to get away with that bullshit.
You get to be Jeremy Meeks or these hot criminals that get fawned over.
But what if those guys were like Ned Flanders, nice guys?
What if they went to church and did the right things?
Do you think they would be ink wells crying?
Like, no, they would be the himbo.
They'd be the hot, nice guy that, oh, women like the way they look and they like their personality.
Be more like him.
They're like, what do you guys think?
Do you agree or disagree?
I'd say the looks matter way more when they're younger.
I find the older they get, it matters less.
And it's funny because I see some women that match with me that, like, you know, I knew 10 years ago they wouldn't.
It's almost like when they get washed up, it's like they kind of decrease their standard in looks.
Because I know I'm not a child, right?
But like, what I agree with the last, sorry, I forgot your name, with the last.
Speaker, in terms of money, doesn't matter as much outside of just structure and all that.
And I agree as well that you, if you're hot, then basically you are the bad boy.
Like it's hard to be a bad boy if you're not hot, but it can, but it's very small margin.
However, making it just about looks kind of like my personal experience, especially when I'm out and about.
I'll just tell this little story, right?
Very quick.
I was with guys at a bar, Greek bar, whatever, and I saw those two chicks, right?
And there was this guy taller than me, and I'm six, too, right?
Taller than me.
Jacked as fuck, good looking, and he was literally jester maxing.
I said to my boy, I was like, Was he like Shrek?
Sorry?
Was he like, did he have like a fugly face?
Like, oh, no, He was good looking.
He was good looking.
I'm not gay, but I can tell he was good looking.
Like, you know, I was.
Well, that's the thing.
Did the girls like this tall, extroverted?
Because, like, if they were into him, they would see him as extroverted.
If they weren't attracted to him, they would say, oh, he's trying too hard.
Because it's like any behavior.
I could see their body language.
They were smiling.
Why did I say to my friend, walk and learn?
Because I didn't take a, I went there and basically the guy had not great chat.
He was overcompensating with energy and everything, but he didn't have great chat.
I came in, I took the two girls, and they're going to the VIP area of the lounge without me even being a member.
And that informed my friend.
Why?
Because I was more emotionally relevant to them than he was.
I mean, you might have been better looking, but we'll be quick.
Let's use clavicular as the best modern example.
Like a lot of the girls.
That he's stealing from a lot of these guys.
They don't know he's a black pillar or doing streams or going to jail.
Or maybe they see his mugshot and it's like he has looks on his side.
He's taller than most of the dudes.
He has a better looking face.
He can mog them.
He could do whatever he wants, good or bad.
Women will project on him if they're into him.
If he were fat and short and ugly, girls wouldn't care if he had money.
They wouldn't care what he would have.
They might just take his stuff and then leave him by the dumpster.
But if no, because cloud ignores actually, that's a good thing we should bring up.
Cloud ignores everything else.
You could, you could be four foot one.
You could literally, you could literally have like no arms and legs.
Like you could have, you could have a micro, you know what.
And, and if you have clout, if you're clouded, you will be drowning in women.
So, cloud, every other metric on life doesn't.
Okay.
Okay.
Shiv, I, I gotta ask this one thing.
How often do you see a guy women think is ugly, ignore them, and they actually care?
Like, are they like, oh, why didn't the ugly guy come up to me?
Oh, let me go up to him and give him my panties.
Like, has that ever happened?
Like, Pearl, have you ever been asked out by a guy you thought was ugly?
And, or maybe he ignored you.
Did that make him, that make you want to go out with him?
Well, is he really riszy, charismatic, funny?
No, no, no.
Like, women, like, well, it's kind of like sometimes if a guy's unattractive in the first five minutes, it's like sometimes they'll say something.
Like some stuff that makes him more attractive, even if you don't find him initially attractive.
Now, when you say attractive, do you mean that made you want to go out with him, or you're thinking, okay, maybe we could be friends?
This entertained me because there's a difference.
Like, did you want to go out with them, or did you go, oh, I enjoy your company, maybe we could be friends, or that entertained me?
Um, the guy I'm thinking about, I dated, like, we were together for, I don't know.
Oh, okay, okay.
Well, actually, actually, I've got something that will go along.
Sorry, I forgot your name, but your way.
One of my good friends, he's a Chad, right?
Looks like Jon Snow, but the taller version.
I used to go out on my own.
I was cleaning up, I was going out with him, I was doing the work, and then he came in.
You were picking up.
You were picking up.
And I was like, this is not great here.
I'm going to have to take your word.
I want to be a good guest.
I better split.
Doug MPA, I just want to say I love you for holding it down.
I got to run, but I love the show, Pearl.
It's been a while since I was on, but I love the show.
Nice talking with you guys.
Thanks for calling in.
Appreciate it.
What a good call.
See, nice and succinct to the point.
Made a good point.
Chop it up and then drop it down.
Good job.
Pew, everybody's not handsome or tall.
I don't know how to put it.
It's like in the first five minutes of an interaction, you kind of like see how the guy moves.
And I forgot, I don't know.
It's just sometimes it's the way they talk to you.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, vocal tone.
That's another one.
Go ahead.
I think there's a lot more men can do to look attractive because women have different types, right?
Like, there are women who'd like the bald look, right?
Beard, bald look.
There's women who want, you know, the Justin Bieber hair or whatever.
But like, I know really hot women who are married now.
Especially like on my sales team.
And the guy is like a little bit like the guy is really ugly, like objectively ugly.
But I remember this one girl in particular.
She was really obsessed with dad bots, like obsessed.
Like she liked that Alex Jones kind of like stocky build, you know?
And so she married a guy.
I know, no, seriously.
Like my sales guy looks like a 28 year old version of Alex Jones.
But like if you shrunk him down to 28, like that's what he looks like.
And she's obsessed with that.
And she used to date football players.
Like she's objectively hot.
But wouldn't you say she's just going for beta bucks then?
Like, even if he doesn't have money, it's like security.
If she used to date football players, I wouldn't call him beta bucks.
I mean, Woody maybe has a little bit more tolerance for stuff than like a football player, maybe.
But I wouldn't call him complete.
Like, he's not like, he's pretty.
I've seen him like go off on her, like when we hang out and stuff.
So he's not like, yeah.
So he holds frame, I guess.
I think she's smart enough to know that.
He's going to stay, like, as long as she's not a complete, you know, insufferable human, that he'll stay.
So that's probably a bigger thing.
The football player, you know, it's probably going to like make her a single mom.
So I think there's some part of that.
I'm going to read.
I'm going to read Supers really quick and then I'm going to bring up the next caller.
Oh, Shiv, thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity to join the stage.
I'll set aside to clean things up.
Thanks for what you do.
Have a great day.
Women behave how they.
Oh, I read that one already.
Okay, thank you.
Sorry, keep going, Shiv.
Oh, no, no.
So I think Cloud kind of oversees everything.
Because we can make fun of Neon, right?
Because Neon's really dorky.
His mannerisms are incredibly beta.
Neon screwed up the Indian race.
We're down so bad right now.
Neon just kicked us lower.
But I know he's getting women.
I just know it.
I just know that there are women who will happily be with Neon right now because he has clout, he has fame.
I mean, look at this.
That's what I'm saying.
And yeah, people argue the OnlyFans thing, but I promise you, even off camera, there are.
I think even virgin girls would be with them.
The virgin, purest, hottest girls will.
Clout is unlike anything I've ever seen in my life.
You know, I was friends, I'm really good friends with Jordan Belfort, the real one, right, from Wolf of Wall Street, not the not Leo, but um, with Jordan and Jordan Belfort's like in his like, I think he's like 60 something now.
And man, I, I mean, he's now married to like a 24 year old really hot Latina girl, but I've seen this guy when he got divorced from wife number four.
I hung out with him in Beverly Hills for a week.
Every hot, every hot girl on earth wanted to be with him just because of the fame, everyone on earth, and he's super short, he's like five foot four, five foot five.
What's five foot four?
Yeah, he's extraordinarily short.
But I mean, he's obviously charismatic as hell.
Yeah.
Charismatic as hell.
But short, and he's old.
And he got women.
I'm telling you, clout's unlike anything on earth.
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
And that's his current wife right now.
That's my nightmare being 5'5.
You can say, Doug and PA will take you from 6'2, almost 6'3 down to 5'5, but you can get all the women in the world.
I'd say no.
Being short would just be 5'4.
Oh, dude, no.
I'm going to add.
I'm going to add up Big Kahuna.
I think that was.
What's up, girl?
Big Kahuna.
How you been, girl?
I haven't talked to you for a long time.
I'm great.
I'm just hearing the story.
So, what do you think about women don't care about six feet, six figures, six inches?
They don't.
I agree with what Donnie said earlier.
Women don't really care about money.
Look, I live in Los Angeles.
Women are like men.
We're animals.
You know what I mean?
You work at Del Taco, they'll fuck you if you work at Chase Bank.
They don't care.
You know, women don't care.
It's the truth.
Men and women don't care.
We're animals.
So, all this bullshit, you know, about what you look like, this, that, and the third, yeah, it matters.
But I'll say this like, I'm not talking shit, but like, that guy's Indian.
So, he already has it bad.
You know, he's already down there.
I agree.
If you want to know what you're doing, bro.
No, no, no.
I'm being serious, bro.
Hey, bro, let's be honest.
Let's call it a spit of spate.
You already have it bad.
You're Indian.
So, you're already locked out.
Over many women, you can't get anything like me.
I'm Latino, I'm from LA, blah blah blah.
I did.
Sorry, is he talking about ship or is he talking about neon?
I have no idea.
I think he might have been talking about neon.
I'm not talking about this Indian guy right here, you know, he's in San Francisco, but yeah, he already has it bad, you know.
And then Doug MPA, I love that Doug MPA, he's a funny guy, but then again, he has a studying problem.
Okay, got it.
He's a troll.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, but Perl, you made this point the other day that was on, it was like crazy.
Oh, I just forgot it.
Hold on, I'm gonna remember it.
What?
What?
I'm trying to remember a point that Pearl made the other day.
She was talking about relationships.
Hold on, just give me a sec.
Sage for you, all right.
No, y'all can keep talking because I'm trying to.
Oh, okay, got it, got it, got it.
I'm like, what?
I was just like, damn, that guy came in with all the smoke.
Tangible Looks and Intangible Feelings00:15:17
I know, I'm just sitting there, like, I'm just like there, like, because I agree.
Like, I would be the first to tell you, like, being Indian, like, you are down bad in the beginning, like, being like 18 and Indian is rough, right?
But now I'm 30, like, now it's awesome, right?
Because you actually go do the work.
Um, if you do the work, it's incredible, but yeah, yeah.
That's the same thing with a stutter.
You know what's funny?
It's like Hodie was saying.
You get to the, okay, when you start to lose your hair, you get worried.
You're like, man.
But you get to a certain age where, especially like women in their 30s, there's certain things that they cared about in their 20s that they just don't care about anymore.
They really don't.
I'll say it a better way, Doug, right?
And see if you agree with this.
I was happy that I actually had to do the work.
Because my friends, all my friends who are just genetically get like, you know, they're just like a white lifeguard, all of them have the most stupidest lives today.
All of them have three kids from three loser women who do heroin.
All of them are still, they go DJ and drive Uber all day just to try to meet women.
They're still trying to sleep around and relive their 18, 19, 20 year old lives, even though they're 35 now and washed up.
It's the most embarrassing life of all time.
And so I think actually being like Chad, like I used to be so, when I was in high school growing up, I used to be so envious of that guy.
Now, I meet all of them, and that they're just waiting tables the rest of their lives and have nothing going on.
They don't understand women, so they still, because they don't have to understand women, right?
Yep.
And so, I, for me, I'm so grateful that I actually had to like have this deeper knowledge because now I'm, I know what a happy, successful relationship looks like.
I know how to tell the signs.
I'm not like, you know what I mean?
The thing about it is, is some of the best advice I ever got was those who don't have to won't.
And that goes for men and women, right?
Guys, what to make you happy more than a woman in this female dating market and sex.
Is your purpose right?
And the best thing you can do is be in a position where you have to find a purpose because then you'll find one.
And a lot of my friends who are Chads in high school and college, I'm doing, I may have a stutter, I may have lost my hair, but I'm doing better than 95 objectively.
I'm doing better than 95 percent of them.
Actually, Doug, can I?
I want to ask you a question because, like, to me, when I lost my hair or whatever, I mean, that's I have some, but I shaved.
I mean, for me, it was like a very easy transition, I didn't even think twice.
I mean, knowing that you're black, I mean, generally goes very well in black, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, a bald head and a beard, black guys have it the best because in the 80s and the 90s, we had the Michael Jordans and all those athletes who went bald.
So, of all of the men who have the best bald, it's black guys.
The male hair restoration industry is like $1.7 billion in the West, and most of it are what two races of men try and guess white and Asians.
White and Indian, because white guys look like skinheads, and then Indians, it's not culturally accepted yet in India to lose your hair.
So, a lot of Indian guys and a lot of white guys do all this hair restoration.
Black guys have it the best when it comes to no hair.
Hey, speaking of, say to his face, dog.
I'm sorry.
I'm just going by statistics.
I'm going by statistics.
I know.
I'm just, I'm just messing.
I just saw an opportunity.
I took it.
McBeardyBeard, how you doing, buddy?
Oh, is he not listening?
I don't think so.
Okay, well, that's incredible.
Hey, Yellow Pill.
What do you think?
Do women care about six feet, six figures, and six inches?
They don't care.
I think it's just a bunch of bogus.
I agree with Pearl.
Oh.
I can have examples of men.
I'm 5'8.
I have examples of men shorter than me marrying women taller than them.
Like, I don't agree with what the guys are saying to the 6'6 thing.
I don't agree with it at all.
Okay.
Tell me more.
What in your life experience have you seen that's different?
My cousin, she's like a foot and a half taller than her husband.
They've been married for years.
One of my closest friends from college, he's a super nerd.
He dropped out.
He's married to his wife.
She's taller than him.
Height, money, these are environmental variables, and it only matters by the value that you give it.
Doug MPA, what do you think?
I mean, It sounds kind of anecdotal to me.
I'm not going to disagree with anecdotal experience, but you know me, I just, you know, a better resume gets you better job opportunities.
And it's about getting the opportunity first.
That's why in the Red Pill, they always talk to beautiful women and say, you get access and opportunities that men don't get.
It's the same thing.
Look, there's a reason why they're putting height filters on dating apps and women are paying for the height filters.
Most presidents are over six foot.
Most CEOs are over six foot.
Most military officers are over six foot.
I didn't write the rules, dude.
So, on a balance of probabilities, you're better off having the six foot, six foot, six foot.
Yeah, but it's marketing.
And if you still get the tryout and you don't have the behaviors to go with it, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, but imagine having the behaviors to go with it, but not getting the tryout.
Having the behaviors to go with it, but not getting the tryout.
Yeah.
I always find a way around it.
They just lie about their height.
But again, like, and where the three inch lifts on, yeah, guys, even the guy, here's the thing even the guys with game will lie about their height, lie about their income.
Remember, the UK tried to pass a law saying that men can't lie about their occupation to get laid.
So, part of game is a subterfuge of exuding wealth, you know, making yourself seen taller, and then, you know, embellishing your sexual prowess.
Well, it's also going into environments, like, you might not get the try it on dating app.
but there's other environments where you will.
Like, I heard earlier about how a lot of guys that make a lot of money struggle with dating.
Like, just because you have money doesn't mean a girl likes you.
Women are real people.
I actually think money is the worst thing for guys to lean on in game because money is a multiplier, right?
If she already likes you, you're charismatic.
It's one, it's a multiplier, and two, it's good for retention because she could love you, but if you put her through 10 years of abject poverty, it's going to be hard on her, right?
But, um, But yeah, I think money is the worst thing guys lean on because you can't buy attraction.
And also, if anything, women are always looking for a way to say that men are insecure.
And so, if a guy has money, they just assume you're insecure, even if that's not the case.
So, yeah.
And Pearl, I would just say that the sixth.
Go ahead, Sean.
Go ahead.
Yeah, yo, that's what I remember.
And shout out to the guy who just came in because he helped me remind me.
But Pearl, you said basically, you still.
Have the shows, right?
And then the security guard would drive the girls back home.
And who were they with?
Regular ass motherfucking people.
And so I think it's just a lot of online stuff we talk about.
Regular people are with regular people, bruv.
Like they met at work and then they just start banging.
Like, so it's like, even if you get these people on these shows, like I want 666.
In real life, they're dating a guy with a dad bod who's regular.
That's it.
And that's what most people are with.
Most people are fat in America, number one.
So, net net, everybody's with a fat person, but at the end of the day, nobody's with no guy who's lean, sticks.
He looks like Dracula, clavicular.
He's a Chad Rohn.
Like, these are not real, bro.
Dracula is crazy.
It's almost like, um, it's almost like the more the women say they want that, the more they're banging guys that don't have that.
Yeah, they're just trying to put in a bargain, right?
Like, the real reality is they're just with somebody just average.
And then they're like, you know, I'm looking for this, hoping that that guy maybe slides in their DM or something.
It's just kind of like a help wanted list.
So I think at the end of the day, when the bodyguard drives them back home, they're with a regular person.
And so you were on point when you were saying that.
I was like, oh, yeah, that is fucking factual.
No, but that's what I mean.
Like the guy might get filtered out, the short bodyguard might get filtered out on a dating app, but then he just gets a job at Pearl Show and drives these bitches home.
What do you say?
He just brought up.
Yeah, sorry, guys.
It's a proximity rule.
If you put people in the proximity for a long enough period of time, they'll find they eventually like one another.
I mean, give or take.
It's like you put one guy and one girl in a room for a long enough period of time, they end up together.
And that's pretty much what he says, but on a social basis.
However, when they're younger, they try and get out a little bit, but then there's a return to the mean as they get a bit older because it's like it doesn't lead to anything because there are not enough parallels that enable people to be compatible.
Because generally, people just go around with similar people than them, whether they like it or not.
I would add, so we always talk about how women will sleep with a certain caliber of guy and determine that that is their level, right?
And that's the problem with modern women.
And that level is usually because it's the guy that makes them feel something, but then the tangible level that a woman thinks that she can get.
So she wants a guy on her tangible level that makes her feel the intangible thing.
And the way that a lot of women determine their level is the 666.
You can have a guy that makes her feel some type of way who's five foot nine until she runs into a guy who's six two that makes her feel that kind of way too.
You can have a woman with a guy that makes $80,000 a year until she runs into a guy that has $300,000 a year that makes her feel that kind of way too.
That's where monkey branching comes from.
Understand what I'm saying?
So, like, I'm just saying, like, the 6'6'6s are just a tangible way that women determine the level of man that they have, whereas the feelings are kind of intangible.
If a woman meets a guy who's 5'9 that makes her feel some type of way, and then meets a guy who's 6'2 and makes her feel some type of way, she's going to pick the guy that's 6'2.
Yeah, but it's rare that men really understand.
You said it yourself.
Most men don't have game.
So it's like, it's pretty rare that you're going to find a guy that makes you feel.
Some type of way in general.
But the guys that like put in the work to learn it have a major advantage because major.
Yeah.
Cause I mean, it's, I've Ryan's, Ryan Stone goes into like autistic level detail of, um, it's like more detail than I could, like, I can't even imagine going through each and it, but like for each and every like social, he's kind of like, like Sean, how he can like go through how to structure a conversation and all this stuff.
And it's like, I'm like a dude that's read and like applied all of that stuff.
He's going to be, Like, what are the odds you're going to find another guy that's done all that work?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, makes sense.
Zero.
Well, actually, I want to ask a question to the guys here.
Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you, a girl that you hooked up with or that you've been with, and then afterwards you see the next guy after you or the guy that she marries and you're like, and you're like, oh, that's disappointing in a sense of like, you thought that, you know, like you thought that, like you saw him and you're like, oh, definitely not, like, definitely not an improvement.
And then you see another guy, and you're like, oh, wow, she really did well.
It's almost like you have that level of, I don't know, that gut feeling when you see someone else being with a girl that you have a history with, whether it's short term, long term, whatsoever.
And you can already tell whether or not she did better.
And I think it's one of those things that kind of like, it's not a 666, it's just a general feeling.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But it's also hard off just the, unless you meet the guy, it's kind of hard to know, right?
Because maybe he is extraordinarily charismatic, Rizzy.
Maybe he's, you know, whatever.
Maybe he understands things like, you know, Alan Roger Curry's dirty talk.
Maybe he can get her somewhere, you know, intimately that the other guys couldn't.
So I think it's hard to tell.
It's hard to tell just on a phone.
I'll use an example.
I'll use an example.
A friend of a friend basically lost his girlfriend, and we saw the new boyfriend, and he was like a fucking jacked, rich, six feet two.
Italian guy, I was like, man, just give up.
Just give up.
You're out.
You're out of the game.
It's like something so clear and so clear cut.
Whereas the other guy was kind of like just average pasty white guy, you know?
And yeah, it kind of says something about him that he's sharing a girl with, he had enough game to get a girl that can also get the other guy.
Oh, I think it was more of a proximity thing.
Because also, another thing with the yellow pill guy was saying, yeah, I know this guy got married to this girl, and I go to this guy and got married to this girl.
But most of the time, girls get married with a guy far from the best guy they've been with.
100% true.
Yep.
The wall is undefeated.
Yeah.
Hence why I always say, like, you look at somebody and say, he got the sick.
There's a lot of girls who just wouldn't be with a guy because he just looked too good.
That's a real thing, too.
Girls are like, oh, you just look good.
You're a pretty boy.
I couldn't deal with you.
Or they'll try to, of course, insult you and shame you about it because that just inflates the ego a bit or level the playing field.
So, again, there's downsides to all of it.
I don't necessarily sometimes look at a lot of this stuff like, oh, I lost my girl.
Like, I think that's a buster way of looking at life.
It's just like, okay, well, what if a girl one day comes in, Pearl, right?
And she says, I like a guy who likes to get paid.
Am I going to be like, I'm going to keep her, so I'm going to get paid?
Like, nah, that's crazy.
I'm going to let the hoe go.
So at the end of the day, you got to think about what a girl wants.
Shout out to my girl, Mrs. K.
This is who I call Mid of the Year.
There's always women that shoot out of their league.
When you're a single mother with two baby daddies and you can pull a billionaire, I understand he might not have the looks.
That's still impressive.
We're still going to give her mid of the year.
Bro, we're going to give her mid of the year.
You got a tough game.
You got a tough game.
Accepting Reality in Dating Choices00:09:11
Yeah, I mean, that's impressive.
I mean, we got to give credit.
She's like in her 50.
We got to give credit for a 50 something.
We got to give credit where credit's due.
That's a business marriage, though.
I keep telling you, 85% of Amazon's customers are women.
If he would have married a 20 year old, he would have lost like half.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he would have lost half a stock, but come on.
He would have lost half a stock.
No.
And if you don't think that he isn't going to some foreign country, banging a bunch of chicks a couple times a year, you.
Yeah, but Doug, he could have got with Jennifer Lopez, right?
Like, he could have got with a hot girl.
No.
Jennifer Lopez is literally impossible.
She looked like she survived 9 11.
We're still going to say this is impressive.
I'm still impressed.
No, it's super impressive.
Every now and then, we got to give a woman.
Who had every took every L imaginable and still came out on top?
Like, we we gotta just give a little, you know, I gotta give a credit.
Can I can I say, are there swear words off the table here?
Probably, right?
You could, you could swear.
It's all right.
I swear like three times in my heart.
All right, her pussy's probably fire, probably fire to marry that.
To marry that, good for her, bro.
I think it's incredible.
Luck, luck, 9,000.
No, but yeah, I want to marry her.
Now I want to.
You know, I want to like what's so great.
I need to know.
No, but hold on, but hold on.
Have you not?
Have you seen videos of her?
Because the thing is, so many women have got game, they're bad seductress whatsoever.
But this one, I've seen her.
I'm like, like all Lauren's, all the Lauren's that I know, fire.
And to say this too, she is smart in interviews.
Like, if you hear interviews of her, she is eloquent, she's smart, she knows how to play the game.
I'll say this, right?
Um, at a certain level of wealth, um, because I've talked to Jordan Belford about this, and he says.
You want a girl who knows little things.
Like, it's nice if she understands how to handle your security.
It's nice if she knows already how to fly on a private jet.
If you're at a certain strata of life, you don't want to have to educate her all the way from zero, right?
And so I think it's a little bit different there, too.
Like, women who know how to navigate the fame, that for those people, it does matter.
I would add to you, I would add to you that she knows her place.
Lauren's under no illusion that Jeff Bezos isn't a billionaire and she's benefiting from being with him.
Jennifer Lopez would approach a Jeff Bezos like, I'm better than you.
That's true.
Yeah.
Which I don't think she gets the role.
She gets what she is, right?
She's a giant, you know, giant fuckstick for him.
And that's phenomenal.
And she'll be there on a shoulder at any event, any gala, you know, all of that.
Yeah, she kind of made him look bad with the whole Leonardo DiCaprio thing, if you remember that.
But you know what?
She was drunk.
Like, you know, whatever, right?
I think Jeff is drunk.
She was drunk.
I just had the funny shit, but like, She was drunk.
I know she slept with him, but she was just.
Yeah, yeah, she was with nine.
Or she would have slept with him.
She had a couple glasses of wine, so we're going to, you know, it doesn't count.
So I don't know.
But I do think that, I do think a women's game in terms of intelligence and like playing the game matters a lot more when you're an older guy.
Because, yeah, there's a lot, a lot more to it, right?
For example, is Lauren Sanchez smart to look the other way of Jeff Bezos' chiefs?
Maybe she is.
I'm blind.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
I saw nothing.
What are you even talking about?
Pearl, in the panel.
I'm going to start the question with Pro, but we'll go around the panel.
What do you think is worse when a guy finds out he's never going to be that guy, or when a girl finds out that she's never going to be that girl?
What do you think is worse?
Uh, the guy, because I think women can live with not being that girl if they really think so.
In this day, the girl that because I think, are you gonna let me answer?
Like, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, go ahead.
Like, do I like uh, because women, if they like the guy enough, they're okay with being her second choice, but men like men cannot take another man, they like hate the thought of it, it's like repulsive to them.
Like, I'm like, ask a guy if he could get over getting cheated on.
Can't women can, you know?
I don't think you understand.
My question was okay, by not being that girl, you're never going to have access or get the kind of guy that you want.
And a guy having to accept that he's never going to get the type of women that he wants that's what I meant by you're saying, like, she didn't get the guy and now she has to deal with betas forever.
Like, she's she hit the wall basically.
She's ugly, yeah.
Like, she has to accept reality that she's going to only be able to get a guy that's like a six or seven.
She's never going to get a rich guy or a guy, except in the fact that he's going to have to marry a fat girl that used to be a whore.
You know what it is?
It's the person that gets it the worst is the guy that realized it because the woman tortures him.
So the guy that realizes he'll never be that guy to women, he's going to get tortured for life.
Ah, that's true.
Because he's got to marry the girl who realized she's not that guy.
And now he gets married.
Oh, that's brutal.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Do you know?
I know so many girls that wanted to be an actress and they're failed.
And then, oh, dude, the guy, it's those are the worst marriages that end in divorce.
Or my, like some of my friends who married like failed actresses in Hollywood.
Because they got used to the best of the best.
And then when they go back to Mr. Normal, even though he can be successful, because it's not the best of the best, you're going to suffer from the resentment.
Right.
Like I like, I like Grant Cardone.
So this is not a diss on Grant Cardone, right?
But like his wife was a failed actress, right?
But if you see their interviews, the amount of standards she has for him is so insanely high because in her head, she sees herself at that level.
And you'll see it, right?
She was the one who forced him to become a billionaire, really kept hounding him to be a billionaire because she failed.
Now she has to feel like she contributed to his success, she has to take credit for it in some sort of way.
So you do see that.
So yeah, women who don't become what they think they are.
Yeah, they put that burden on the guy.
Now, Grant, shout out to him.
I like Grant.
He did the, you know, he at least did the best he could to actually, you know, elevate his life to billionaire status.
But yeah, it's true.
It's true.
I think, though, girls truthfully can be happy with just a vibrator and three cats.
Like, I think that, like, that's different.
I think a guy being lonely long term is harder.
Do you know what?
With no women.
Like, I think incel life as a guy is actually way harder than incel life as a woman.
The other thing, too, is I think more men are like cool to be around.
So, like, I think if you talk to like 10 men, there's more that, like, okay, they might not be attracted sexually, but are just cool.
Like, they're chill guys.
Like, I think most men you meet are chill guys.
Women, I think like eight out of 10 are terrorists.
So it's kind of like, again, the really big L is the guy who realized he's never going to be that guy because the girl might not want to bang her husband, but at least he's, it's probably a chill guy, you know, where the guy is now in the house with the terrorists.
This is true.
And here's the worst part.
You actually can negotiate with terrorists.
You can't negotiate with a liberal woman, right?
Like, look at Trump.
He's making deals with Iran.
He's still trying to make it work.
You can.
You actually can negotiate with terrorists.
That's the stupidest phrase in the world.
You can't negotiate with liberal women, especially if that blue hair.
How's that working out in SF?
Because I'm sure you must have a lot of them.
So here's the great part, right?
The great part in SF is that a lot of the guys here are beta nerdy.
So, if you just have a little bit of evil toxicity in you, and I have enough for all of you on the panel, you pretty much can get any girl you want here.
And the hot girls here don't have, like, it's really easy to get pretty girls for guys who understand Risen Game.
So, I actually think this is the greatest dating place ever.
And it's shocking.
And I'll send you receipts off the show if I have a way to contact you.
But, like, the girls I've gotten with here are hotter than any place I've ever been.
You mean that way?
No, because I used to be in that stuff.
Yeah, it's pretty nuts because they.
You're not going to find them out and about necessarily, but you're going to find them on hinge.
Like on hinge, it's crazy.
Theodore, welcome to the show.
And Jackson, I'll bring both of you up.
What are your thoughts on the topic, Theodore?
You can go first and then Jackson next.
All right.
You know, I think that 666, I would say height matters more on the dating apps.
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My advice is if you're not 65, say you are.
So that's what the data says that you can optimize the number of women that see your profile at 6'5 and then show up and see what happens.
Usually they don't care.
But, you know, I think that the big thing for me is okay, so for money, obviously for money, it's nice to have money for you.
That would make you a better beta male provider, whatever, and more likely to get married on the marriage market.
But obviously, that's more likely to get wrecked on the marriage market.
So, that really, if you're in it for action, for sexual access, then money's probably not going to do much for you unless you're going in the sugar baby market.
So, I would just do money for you.
And then, if you're looking for a relationship, not just casual sex, you get tired of the casual sex, then I think that really waiting until you're in your 30s is a bad idea.
I can't imagine right now, I'm 50, that you would want to integrate your life with anybody at this point.
So, when I got married for over 20 years, you know, I was in my 20s, I didn't own anything.
It was really easy to integrate our lives together because neither one of us had anything, neither one of us had had a solo apartment for a long time.
But You know, all the kind of older women that I date that are closer to my age, and even the ones that are in their 30s or maybe even late 20s, they have a lot of stuff.
And the idea to integrate all their pets in their lives, and even if they don't have kids, it just seems just too daunting.
So, if you really want the marriage thing, I think you should do that earlier because it's just, I don't think people are designed to pair their lives late in life.
Cool.
Do you have any agreements or disagreements, guys, on the panel with what he said?
I've kind of changed my tune on this because I know a lot of guys are like, oh, marry a really young girl.
Every young girl, every girl that got married or had kids below 25, like let's say 21, 22, 20, all of them are divorced.
It's all a shit show.
So I actually think of a girl.
Now, I'm not saying go marry Bonnie Blue.
That's not what I'm saying.
But I think a girl, I found that dating girls like 27, 28, like in that bracket, like my current girlfriend's 29, which is.
Ironically, the biggest diss ever was I remember I was in the Uber with my girlfriend, and she told me, Who's the oldest girl you've been with?
Knowing that I have like a high body count.
And at that time, it actually was her.
And I told her that, and that was great.
But yeah, I think that bracket is the best because they kind of know themselves.
All those fantasies kind of go like they kind of know what they want, don't like.
They know that they're aging out.
Like, so I don't know.
I think marrying a 21 year old girl today, you're pretty much asking for a divorce.
Aren't those the highest divorce rates?
Yeah, well, the issue is you got to keep them away from like all the events and parties all their friends are going to and like the raves and stuff.
It was kind of.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I guess my take is that if you do want to have somebody that's older, just make sure that she makes more money than you.
She makes as much money as you.
You know, because they're probably going to divorce you anyways.
So the best defense is to have a woman who has a great career and has saved some money.
So.
So, you mean saving money?
Hey, if any of the guys watching this are in San Francisco and grow, I'm not saying this.
I have my cousin.
She makes $320K a year.
Financial Security for Divorce Defense00:08:19
But if you just want action, just lose weight.
That would be the first step.
The fastest things to get girls on dates and then have hookups and situationships is lose weight, then build muscle, then the slow burn is money.
The fast faster than even losing weight is optimize your dating profile, but that'll probably be about the same time that you can lose all the body fat.
So, if you're disciplined now, if you're just not disciplined, then you're not going to do well.
Well, good.
Sorry, no, cool.
That was great.
Thanks for calling, Theodore.
Okay, bye.
Okay, next we got Jackson.
You're going to be our last caller for the night.
Hey, so I would say that the three sixes are the way I think, I think in terms of analogies, because I do think they matter, but I found myself agreeing with Pearl's monologue at the beginning a lot more than disagreeing.
And so my analogy is like building a fire, right?
You've got, you learned it in Boy Scouts, you would use, you know, like sawdust or twigs or dead leaves or whatever as kindle for the fire, and it would start in a flame and then it would transfer over.
To the logs, right?
And if you just had the Kindle, the fire would burn quickly and then it would burn out.
So, Kindle is helpful in starting a fire, but you don't strictly need it either.
You can just like the logs, it's just harder to get it to catch.
But once it does, you get the same end result.
That's sort of how I view the sixes.
I think if you have the sixes, you're going to get more women's attention, and therefore, you're going to have a chance to even get your foot in the door more because a lot of Women aren't aware of how invisible a lot of men are to them.
But that being said, they don't keep you in the door if you want a lasting relationship.
And then I also think they're not the only way in, right?
Even though that's an easy way in to have status or have money or something like that, I don't think that's the only way in, just like you could theoretically start a fire without Kindle.
So the summary is I think that they do something, but I also don't think they're the be all end all.
I agree with Pearl on that.
Cool.
Thanks for calling in.
That was a really good call.
Thank you.
No problem.
I had good callers like straight to the point.
Look at these guys.
Great.
All right.
I'm going to give you guys a chance to give your final thoughts.
We're going to close out the show.
So, I'll spell T H O T S.
Yeah.
Shiv, I'm going to let you go first.
Then Sean, then French OG.
Yeah.
So, I think when you get, especially as a guy, I will say one thing.
I am so thankful that I'm 31 versus I would not go back to being 18.
Right.
So, to me, Yeah, I don't think 666 is true.
I think height on dating apps is, but just lie.
Um, then just show up to date with those lifts, and then eventually, you know, once she likes you, you can reveal the grip that you're shorter, and that's fine.
Um, you gotta bang her first, yeah, exactly.
I think once you do that, once you bang her, everything's off the table, right?
Because that's why, like, to me, even the six inches thing is kind of silly to me because once you hit, you hit, right?
Like, what is like, it's, I have never heard.
Maybe some guys here have a story on that, but I have never, in my experience, been down to crunch time and a girl would be like, you know, like I've never heard a story of like someone saying, oh, she said stop because of what she saw.
Right.
Maybe that exists, but I've never seen it.
I think once girls decide to hit, like it, yeah, they're going to hit, you know.
So I think maybe like, I think income matters for retention to a degree, but I don't think it's as drastic as people think.
I actually would argue it's better if she has a career.
Because if she makes 50 grand a year and you make 50 grand a year, okay, 100 grand household, like you can make that work.
But unfortunately, if you live in San Francisco, yeah, you're screwed.
If she makes zero dollars and you make 50 grand a year, I mean, how are you?
You can't live in this city.
You know, there's just no way.
So, yeah, I think toxicity, I think if there's one thing I could tell younger guys, just learn how to be toxic.
Nothing's going to be better than being toxic.
So if you, all of this, I did all the work.
I'm a little out of shape now, but I had abs.
You know, I did the abs.
I'm tall.
I'm six foot two.
I would say I'm pretty charismatic.
I did all the things, right?
Built Riz.
And nothing beats being toxic.
So there's my advice.
Thank you, Shiv.
Sean.
Yeah, shout out to Shiv.
Shout out to all you guys.
I would say, man, the primary thing is get some testicular fortitude.
I think we often describe these things as being toxic.
I'm not toxic.
I just love me.
Love yourself first.
Focus on what you build.
666 is, it helps, but it's a cope if you think it's everything and it designs everything.
And it's kind of like, I get what Shiv was saying, but I haven't met no girls that said, stop.
I have, because once you hit them with the six, they're like, please stop.
But as far as them asking to stop because of what they see, I don't know.
But what I would say is continue to build on your life.
Don't worry about that.
As Pearl said, a lot of people out here are with some fat, ugly, regular ass people.
And so don't get caught up in the actual statistics of who wants 666.
At the end of the day, just get better at life and then go out there in the marketplace and find whatever you want to find.
But as far as me and I'm concerned, I'm never getting married.
That shit is just beta all around.
So at the end of the day, I'm just going to be winning.
Shout outs to Pearl, shout outs to Doug, and shout outs to everybody in the chat.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for calling in.
Crunch OG.
So I'll use an analogy.
Think of an app that you have on your phone, right?
Think of the three sixes as the hardware behind the app.
Mean by that, like the thing that works in the background for the app to work, right?
However, everything else that is intangible.
The vibe, the flow, the game, whatsoever, is a software of the app.
It's about how the user does, how is the UX getting you to actually use it and how user friendly it is, how warm, how much does that thing actually get you addicted to the app.
And really, that's it.
Most people focus too much on the 666, which is how the app is built.
Nobody gets hard on how an app is built.
They get hard because of the experience the app provides from.
From just the flow of what it's supposed to do.
And really, it's not about saying, it's not about the 666.
It's not about just the game, the vibe, the flow, whatever.
You need a bit of both.
And it's like, you can't just cope saying, well, I don't have any of that.
I'm not going to get it.
I've been mugged by guys that have been smaller than I. You know, I'm happy to say it.
And I've mugged guys that I thought would actually be better than I.
And it's like, and once you stop looking or keep focusing on one key thing and you actually get out there, And you experience and you learn, you make mistakes, but at least you get a little bit more of a tougher skin, then actually it's going to make you more attractive.
You having a tougher skin is going to make you more attractive and you're going to get more insight.
So, really, think about it long term.
Don't look at excuses to develop more self helplessness.
Cool.
Thanks so much for calling in.
Your stories were great.
Doug MPA, we're going to agree to disagree.
I think the sauce is the most important thing.
Building a Body of Work00:09:25
I always say a lot of women, especially these professional women, they say that the best thing a guy can do for them is be there for them.
And they think that the main thing a man can do is make them feel some type of way.
You want to be with someone where you have to make them feel that type of way.
Sometimes it could be a lot.
Sometimes it could be a little, but that's the biggest problem with that.
Number one, number two, guys, don't let women determine your value.
A lot of times, if a guy's depressed, give him a purpose, not a woman, right?
Give him a job and an income, not sex.
Understand what I'm saying?
So, why not both?
You know what I mean?
Well, yeah, no, but I'm talking if one is more important for a man's life, it's a purpose and an income than it is a woman and sex.
Understand what I'm saying?
So, I think that Kevin Samuels' version of high value for society is better to go by as a man than high value for women because women don't know what they want when they want it.
And you're going to spend your life trying to figure out what that is instead of being on your purpose.
And the reason why I can say it's either one or the other, or to prioritize one or the other, is you only have 100% of time and effort at any given time.
You only have seven days in a week, 24 hours in a day.
So, yeah, I mean, That's it.
Be high value to society, not to women, and the women thing will work out.
Cool.
Thanks, Doug MPA.
Sounds good.
My final thought is look at the dating market, you got to have a body of work in order to be high value in the dating market, men and women.
I'm not saying it's me.
I'm not saying who it is, right?
But there has to be a body of women that have selected you in order to be high value.
So if you have Kevin Samuel 666, but you don't have a body of work, I just think it misses something, my personal opinion.
Got to have women.
I'm going to, my definition is going to be women over a six, six or higher.
Maybe 5.5.
A young five is okay.
If she's under 25 and a five, I'll accept.
That.
But I feel like most women under 25 or 6's just because of the youth factor.
I mean, I would have to have a certain quantity.
It can't just be one and done, right?
It's got to be a certain quantity of women over a certain looks level.
And a chunk, they don't all have to be enthusiastic, but a chunk have to be.
Let me think about what percent and what the numbers would be that I would personally.
I'm open to suggestion, but again, You could be high value to society.
I'm not taking away from anyone's worth as a man, but it's kind of like in the NBA, you got to know how to dribble.
You know, if we're playing the dating market, if we're talking about the dating market, you got to have a body of men and women, right?
And it's okay.
It doesn't mean you're a bad person.
It's like, I'm not that hot because I never got invited on the yacht.
It just is what it is.
That's the body of work.
Did you get the yacht invitation?
No.
You did it?
Well, mid, right?
That's okay.
It's not like, it's not, well, oh, the biggest cope for women.
Well, if I was just in those circles, if you're hot enough, they fucking find you.
They find you.
You get, you're the hot girl from the small town, the small town.
Like, you know, hot women, they go out and find.
Guys, they got the sauce, the women find.
And saying, like, you could still be high value in the dating market without a body of work.
I'm not saying that's what Doug was saying, Doug MPA was saying, but to me, that's just like the biggest cope.
Like, there has to be, like, even a body of work, right?
I banged 30 women.
Right.
Let's say, let's say 30.
I'm, and some players, some players would say that's low, but let's, let's for shit to, let's, you know what?
Let's say 50, because your body count has to be higher than the bitches.
So let's say, let's say 50, right?
And there's 10 I have on speed dial.
We're honestly, and you got to be honest with your, are they really on speed dial?
Are they really on, you know, and, you know, this is, it's like, there's so many copes.
I can just talk about male copes.
Oh my God, there's so many male copes.
I might do a model.
I might riff for like 10 more minutes on this.
Male copes, okay?
Dating is a waste of time for you, right?
Again, there's an A league, a B league, a C league, right?
If you were getting young, hot women, you would not think it was a waste of time that were compliant.
Well, no one gets that.
No, it's rare, right?
Just like the yacht.
Most women aren't getting the fucking yacht invites, right?
Most women are not.
And genetically, for some of us, it just wasn't in the cards, you know?
That's okay.
You know, that's okay.
I'm not here.
I think when I talk, it makes it seem like I'm not trying to say I'm better or I'm so awesome.
I'm not.
I'm, you know, I'm trash in a lot of ways.
A lot of ways.
You know what I mean?
But.
But there has to be a body of work.
You know how embarrassing it is a woman to be famous and not get invited on the yachts?
You know how embarrassing that is?
I had a billion views on YouTube and there was not one yacht invite.
There was not one yacht.
Where was my yacht?
Because I used to think, right?
I used to judge.
I used to judge so harshly.
I'm like, these women are fucking whores.
Like, what are you doing going on these yachts in Dubai getting pooped?
Well, I never got the invite to get pooped on.
Now, I'm not saying I would have done it.
I'm not saying I would have done it, but it's like, can you really say you wouldn't have got shit on for a billion dollars if nobody offered to shit on you for a billion dollars?
Like, I like to think I wouldn't.
I like to think, but that's like to think, right?
Just like a lot of men that are Christian.
Like to think they would turn down, like a lot of men are judging Elijah Schaefer right now.
Okay.
They're saying, Elijah, you were so wrong.
You were a married man.
When's the last time 22 year old Poonanny fell in your lap?
I'm not going to say it.
When's the last time, sorry, when's the last time that happened to you?
Never in your life, right?
And that's okay, right?
I'm a normie, you know, I guess I'm a normie with a YouTube channel.
But, like, there's just copes on both sides, you know, on both sides.
And what's the other?
Like, again, another cope you're going to get in trouble if you go for women.
Now, a lot of men, that's true.
Even I'm not, I'm not, but we got to be honest.
There are men that have made it scotch free.
LeBron James, I mean, we all know he's got side bitches.
We all know there's some snow bunnies in Cleveland that have been throwing it back for years.
We know, we know it.
Leo, undefeated, right?
There's men that are undefeated.
But you just got defeated, just like I got defeated by not getting a yacht invite.
Just like I got, we all get defeated somehow, right?
But there are who are undefeated.
I need to, oh, I want to drop it.
Oh, I want to drop it.
$500 super chat.
I'll start dropping it.
It's not worth it.
Not worth it.
Don't speak on what I don't know.
I know some undefeated.
I do.
Now, it's not to say they won't get defeated in the future, but there are men that make it through life that just study.
They usually have the time.
I'm not saying they're undefeated and successful.
Like, that's a rare combination undefeated and successful.
Yeah, you're right.
They didn't call me because I'm too tall.
That was it.
It was like, I was too tall to go on the yacht.
Recognizing the Cheating Dog00:08:13
Yeah.
I mean, they totally thought that with the models from New York City.
Oh, Ah, like, there's a lot of cope, right?
And I cope sometimes too.
It's easier.
Isn't it easier to just cope?
Isn't it easier to just do a cope fest?
The Cope Fests are just easier.
Yeah, like men don't like good girls.
That's a Cope Fest.
They just don't like you.
You're probably annoying.
Like, I mean, the women have Cope Fest too, but the male, because remember, there's always men that figure it out and do it.
You guys are men.
There's always going to be a man that got, now, it could be a small percentage, right?
It's like saying, okay, you can't make it to the NBA.
Well, some people can.
It just might not have been in the cards for you, right?
So you got to.
You know, I just think I've met some ugly players.
And I don't know, as a woman, you could just kind of pick it up.
Like, it's they're unapologetically sexual really quick.
They don't give a fuck.
Like, it's something you pick up pretty quick with the guy.
Now, some guys, you can recognize that dog in them, but not want the dog for yourself, right?
Like, sometimes you can sense the dog.
And I think men naturally, if they didn't have the stupid school system and society, society's trying to kill that dog in you.
They're trying to kill it, you know.
That's why guys, when they're around their friends, sometimes you're like, Why don't you act like that more awesome?
You're awesome, often.
You're pretty cool, you know.
But society, they try to kill that dog in you.
And sometimes, sometimes you see that dog in a man, but you know that dog's not for you.
And players understand that, right?
Leo gets rejected.
Leo's had his bitch stolen.
He doesn't take it personally, but he knows he's that dog, right?
You don't think dogs have, um, Yeah, it's not because I had morals.
It's because the 22 year olds didn't want me.
And that's what I mean.
It's like, would I have been?
I like to think, you know, I have morals.
I never would have been a super slut.
I never would have Bonnie Blued it, but I'm not as hot as Bonnie Blu.
I know it's pretty gross.
Once guys know what a woman's done, they can't view her the same, but objectively, better looking.
Like, let's just keep it a buck, right?
Just a better looking gal.
Not saying I'm ugly.
And a lot of people, they hear this and they think, Pearl, are you trying to.
Put yourself down.
I'm not.
I just, I think there's just not enough women being objective here.
I don't think if I like, I don't think I would do what she did.
But again, I don't think I would.
Like, you just don't know until you're in that position.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, would I have gotten shit on in Dubai?
I like to think no, right?
Would I just like, Because you know what I mean?
I guess I've met certain celebrities, but it's just like us together wouldn't even make sense.
Like that just wouldn't make sense.
We both know.
Like if we hooked, I just know what this would be.
You know what I mean?
It's just.
Oh, I'm hotter than Bonnie Blue.
Okay.
All right.
I know.
I'm only hotter because you know what she's done.
Right?
That's.
But if, if you had Bonnie Blue in some sundress, you guys would be fawning over.
If she put on a sundress and a Jesus cross and didn't tell anybody, you wouldn't even know.
That, oh, that's another cope.
I need to talk about that.
I know when a girl's cheating.
I know when a girl's a whore.
Well, then why do you guys all marry whores?
Don't you think the whores wouldn't get married if men could tell?
Men raise kids that aren't theirs and don't know.
But you, you, sir, have this special intuition.
Well, I know by her behaviors.
There was a girl who killed another bitch for a.
She killed a bit.
That's how into it.
She killed another woman and she was banging two dudes at the same time.
She killed another dude.
Oh, but I could tell she's doing all this crazy stuff.
She's so into me.
That's a cope.
She was only seeing me.
I know it.
Do you?
Do you know it?
You can monitor her 24 7.
I know my girl.
She's special.
She didn't do any of that stuff.
Did you guys grow up together?
You knew her from childhood?
Well, no, she moved from a different city.
How convenient.
How convenient.
That is so, I mean, do you know what?
I've lived too many lives.
I had a guy bragging me about, do you know how stupid you look telling me your girls only banged four dudes or six dudes?
One only.
That's still four, like, only.
I know that's low in 2026, but why are you bragging?
Like, don't brag about that.
Like, there would still be, you're going in the altar.
It's you and five other nits.
Like, do you know what I mean?
That's not something to brag about.
Like, why are we bragging about this?
Oh, my girl's under 10.
Well, you're that's still to and look at.
I'm not judging, Lord knows, you know what I mean.
I'm not judging, but it's like, uh, you know, let me question her, let me question her.
Put me in the chat, put me in the chat, uh huh.
That includes oral, ma'am.
You never did heavy petting, fingering, even in middle school, high school, uh huh.
Can your best friend confirm that your best friend?
Oh, she can.
Uh huh.
Let's talk to her when she's angry at you.
Yeah, let's talk to the best friend.
I need you to start a fight with her.
Yep, I need you to start a fight with your ride or die.
Have you guys always lived in the same cities, you and your friend?
Oh, you haven't.
So you could just.
Oh, oh, but you, sir, you, sir, can really, really tell.
We got to stop with the copes.
Just, you know, eat the L. I've taken L's.
You guys have taken out.
Two L's make a W. Sometimes two L's, like you get cheated on, you get cheated on again, and then boom, you find the love of your life.
W, right?
The love of your life is going to be a whore, right?
It is.
I mean, it's.
She's going to torture you.
It is what it is.
Even if she has genuine desire for you, she's still probably going to torture you just in a different way.
You can be the best the bitch has ever had, right?
And now you're cheating on her all the time.
She's up in your phone, she's up in your grill.
On the second chance.
Okay.
The Truth About Women Lying00:04:07
You guys are stupid by believing these body count stats.
Oh, if she had two bodies, her chance of having a good marriage goes down by 20%.
I used to believe them too.
I was stupid too.
Women lie.
So what is the survey?
Okay.
You want women to, women lie to you about their body count.
Women lie to their friends about their body count, but your little survey, they're going to be honest.
If anything, what the survey shows is that the women, That lie about their body count have happier marriages.
That's actually what it shows.
It shows the women.
The women that lie- Oh, multi- Multiply the number by three!
I can always tell when my girlfriend is telling me the truth.
I make her feel real comfortable and then she's honest.
Women's honesty is still half lying.
Women's honesty is still half lying.
We lie to you, we lie to ourselves.
If anything, we lie to ourselves more than you.
We convince ourselves.
I think those porn stars believe, I literally think they believe they're God fearing women.
They believe it in their soul.
If they took a polygraph test, they would pass.
We had to lie to ourselves.
We had to pretend.
Like, think about what we had to do, how diabolical we had to be historically to survive.
I was with a ninja, right?
I was in love.
Another ninja comes in and kills him.
I have to mentally pretend he doesn't exist, watch the new ninja kill my children.
And fall in love with that guy if I wanted to live.
Oh, but my girl's different.
She was just raised in a true Christian home for now.
Oh, but this girl, she behaved well right now.
There was a bitch that got cancer.
There was a bitch that got cancer, right?
And she decided she was a loving wife.
And then she got cancer, had six months to live, left her family to be a whore.
Yeah.
She was a good wife for 30 years and then she left to be a whore.
What about when you die?
Oh, my woman is such a good woman.
Well, what about when you die?
You're probably going to die first.
Now she's going into a nursing home.
And there's a ninja in that nursing home that's going to crack your wife.
She could have been there for 20, 30 years.
Somebody is still going to crack.
Cope, cope fast.
Cope, cope, Pearl, Pearl, why aren't you married?
Because there's something wrong with me, right?
Internally, mentally, physically.
A lot of things wrong.
If they were right, we'd have different outcomes.
But Pearl!
But Pearl!
Look!
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All right, that's all I got.
Look, not everybody can be in the A League.
Not everybody can be in the B League.
Sometimes you're in the C League.
Sometimes you're in the D League.
But it's always important that we get back up when we play.
Sometimes you got to bang fat chicks for practice, you know?
Sometimes women have to get in relationships with betas.
To learn relationship skills to meet that ninja, right?
Sometimes women have to find a provider to pay their rent while they bang their personal trainer.
But we're not coping here for that long.
We might cope a little bit.
Okay, sometimes coping feels good.
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You don't do whales right now.
Right now.
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