Dinesh D'Souza and Pearl Davis dissect modern leftism as "identity socialism," tracing cultural degeneracy from the 1970s to today's "suicidal empathy." They analyze the Frontier Airlines baggage fee arrests as evidence of cultivated immunity, critique DEI impacts on medical standards, and debate the "666 rule" regarding female attraction to fearless, high-value men. Ultimately, the conversation warns that Western society's inability to reject radical identity politics and moral relativism threatens its future stability. [Automatically generated summary]
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Fruition of the Bohemian Movement00:02:48
What is up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here at the Audacity Network.
Today, we're actually doing something a little different.
We're having an episode of The Sit Down, and that is where I invite guests on the show.
And today, we have on Dinesh D'Souza, author, filmmaker, and host of his weekly show.
Dinesh, welcome to the show.
Hey, thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
Looking forward to this.
Cool.
So I was looking into your background.
You've been in politics forever.
When did you first get into it?
Well, I came to America from India at the age of 17 as an exchange student.
I found myself at Dartmouth College a year later.
And this was the early years of the Reagan Revolution.
So I caught the political bug and I've been in politics kind of ever since.
By the time I graduated, I wanted to come to Washington and be part of the Reagan.
Transformation.
I worked in the White House in my 20s.
So, yes, I do go back a long time.
And as a result, I've been close to a lot of figures, kind of right of center, over several decades.
Was the 70s the best decade ever?
Well, I came at the very end of the 70s, and quite honestly, I didn't think so.
My view was that the 70s was the sort of fruition of the hippie bohemian movement.
The bohemian movement really goes back to the 1930s, but it became mainstream in the 60s.
I'm talking about hippies and sandals and the peace movement.
It really came to flower in the 1970s.
And I have to say that Reagan ran kind of against it.
Reagan came from California, so he was governor when all of that was going on.
But in some ways, Reagan represented a repudiation of that, of the 1970s.
And the Reagan era, I would say, began from 1980 and ended in 2008 when Obama was elected.
Your audio is a little low.
Are you able to turn it up at all?
Yeah, I think so.
How about now?
Better?
Oh, yeah, that's better.
Let me know in the chat if that's okay.
I went to a.
I'm sorry, there's a little bit of an echo.
Is there any way you have headphones or anything?
No, but I'll turn off my.
I don't know if my cell phone could be causing that.
I'm turning it off right now to see if that's.
Does that improve anything?
A little better?
Yeah, that's better.
That's better.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I always hear about the 70s being this great time.
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So I guess you disagree with that, huh?
Well, I mean, there were great things about it.
I mean, I think the music of the 70s was amazing.
There were Hollywood films in the 70s that have not been.
Better since.
So there was a vitality about it that I did like.
The 60s had entrepreneurial energy behind it, which I wouldn't want to completely repudiate.
Now, I think a lot of the degeneracy that we deplore today is traceable right back to that period.
So it was a period of sort of flowering of creativity on the one hand, flowering also of lots of types of weird and sometimes interesting spirituality.
But it also sowed the seeds of a lot of the cultural degeneracy that young people particularly deplore today.
Yeah, like no fault divorce being introduced.
Yeah, exactly.
Roe versus Wade, 1973, the homosexual movement.
Now, what's interesting is all these movements came surreptitiously by making modest claims.
And then the moment you agree to them, they radicalize the claim.
So, for example, initially it's like, listen, we're weird, but we want you to tolerate us.
Hold your nose and let us be because we need, let us live our life the way we want.
And the moment you said yes, and they were like, oh, okay, well, now we're saying that there's no difference between homosexuality and heterosexuality.
The two lifestyles are the same and should be treated neutrally.
And the moment you agree to that, then they're like, oh, well, now you've got to acknowledge that we've been historically victimized for hundreds of years, so we deserve all kinds of special acknowledgments and treatments, and we've got to, we've got to, we've got to fall to society for homophobia.
So, what you see here is this three step escalation, and I call it tolerance, neutrality, subsidy.
We saw the same thing with affirmative action.
You know, racial tolerance then becomes racial equality, then becomes DEI.
And so, this is a trajectory I observed.
It occurred basically between the 60s and the 90s.
Yeah.
Do you think that's typically feminine?
Like that's kind of women pushing that?
Sorry, can you say that again?
Do you think it's kind of feminine that it's like women pushing that?
Women pushing what?
Like tolerance, what you just described.
Oh, I see what you mean.
Is tolerance a particularly feminine virtue?
No, I would say no.
The virtue of tolerance initially was presented as a very masculine virtue for the reason that it takes fortitude.
Let me give you an example.
Tolerance is kind of like people are doing things that you really object to, but you're asked to have the moral fortitude not to let your normal feelings come out.
Tolerance in its pure form requires a lot of self control.
Tolerance is not this easy, you know, everybody's the same.
We don't really care about your lifestyle.
That second andor like later version of tolerance is more indifference.
But genuine tolerance is something like even though I strongly believe this, even though I strongly believe, for example, in let's just say equality, I'm going to allow you to do the Nazi march in Skokie because I believe in free speech and so I'm going to tolerate you.
Even though it's going to actually cause me to, you know, it's going to cause me some indigestion to watch you with your Nazi flags goose stepping down the street, but I'm going to put up with it because I'm tolerant.
Right.
Well, okay, this is a little off topic, but I'm just kind of curious.
Do you think we have free speech in America today when sometimes the consequences are so high for saying the wrong thing?
Like, if you say the wrong thing, you get fired from your job or you could get, like, I had a guy come on and tell his divorce story.
And he's getting sued by his ex wife, even though he's correct.
But it's like he's going to have to pay a bunch of money just to tell his story.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So, well, you know, there's a legal idea of free speech, right?
Which is simply government shall make no law restricting freedom of speech.
And so, in that narrow sense, freedom is nothing more than imposing a limit on the government.
I think what you're talking about is in a broader sense, are we truly free to be able to speak up, particularly on Kind of controversial issues or issues that might upset other people.
And the truth of it is, free speech has always had consequences.
So the consequence might be that somebody develops a lifelong hatred of you, or if you say something at work, then your boss develops a grudge and tries to demote you.
And so this notion that speech is powerful and carries with it the ability to cause harm.
That's something that I think has been acknowledged for a long time and remains true today.
Yeah.
Because I saw your episode recently on Candace Owens.
Yeah.
And just how, you know, it's kind of a tough line because, you know, even the stuff she's pushing, I would say, is like slanderous at this point.
Well, right.
So I think in our society, better than any other, the rules of being able to prove that are very hard.
So it would be easier for the Macrons, for example, to prevail in Europe, where the laws are much more favorable to the person who claims to be libeled or defamed.
In the United States, you generally have to prove malice.
So, in other words, you have to prove not just that Candace Owens is wrong, not just that Brigitte Macron is not a man, not even that it was.
I mean, she could even prove it was very harmful to them.
But if Candace Owens is able to say, well, I didn't know better, I tried to find out, and this is my best judgment, and I honestly think that she's a man, so you can't get libel because you haven't proven intent.
You haven't proven that Candace Owens knew that it was false or that she acted with reckless disregard.
So the truth of it is, we have a pretty wide latitude for free speech here legally in this country, more so than any other country I know.
Right.
But it's kind of like the winner is who has more money to waste, right?
Which is when women take men's money, right?
No, it's true.
I mean, really, what happens is.
And we have more time, right?
We have more free time because men do more work.
Men do more work.
And usually, well, if you're talking about this domestic litigation, it is true that the wage earner, i.e., the man, ends up footing the legal bills on both ends.
I mean, that's a very familiar.
That's a very familiar story in domestic litigation.
Okay, cool.
So, how have you seen politics change over time from the late 70s to now?
I would say you keep saying the late 70s.
I mean, I was a teenager in the 70s.
Really, my politics, because that seems to make me unbelievably ancient.
And people might actually say, this guy is remarkable.
He's coming on Pearl's show.
He looks middle aged.
He's actually 91.
But no, I'm actually not 91.
I was 17 in 78.
All right, now, the thing is that I think the main difference in politics is this that in the Reagan era, we thought that the liberals and the conservatives had the same general goal.
They disagreed about the means, but they agreed.
If you were to take a poll, let's say at Dartmouth, which was a liberal campus, And say, should America be strong?
Should America be prosperous?
Is America the number one nation in the world?
Should we have law and order?
Should we have safe streets?
99% of students would have said yes.
So the idea here is that the goal is shared.
Now, you might argue about if the country is prosperous, how should you carve up the pie?
Should you have more domestic benefits and welfare benefits or less?
Distinguish the left from the right.
I think what's different now is the left and the right really want to take the country in different places.
In other words, the goal is different.
And therefore, it's more difficult to find common ground.
It's more difficult because it's like in the old debate, it was like we all are going to Chicago, we're debating about whether to take the plane or the train.
Now it's like they want to go to Chicago, but we want to go to Maine.
So we are pulling in different directions.
Have you seen the growing divide politically between men and women amongst Gen Z?
What do you think is causing that?
In my view, it is a dislocation of that is the sort of mutant outgrowth of modern feminism.
When feminism came along in a big way in the 70s and 80s, there was a men's movement that developed in retaliation against it.
But the men's movement was not a repudiation of feminism.
In fact, it was.
Ultra feminism.
If you look at all these men's rights groups from the 1990s and early 2000s, they were all suing for things like, well, you know, men should have custody too.
I mean, men are just as good as women in raising children.
Or better.
Yeah.
So the men's rights groups were basically saying the feminists are right.
These roles are interchangeable, but the rules are being applied in a one way mechanism to benefit women all the time.
They benefit women in divorce, but then they benefit women again on custody.
So everybody's equal when it comes to splitting incomes and inheritances, but everybody's not equal when it comes to allocating the kids.
And so the men's rights movements were essentially demanding equality.
Now, nobody was arguing for things that I see argued about today, which is guess what?
This whole feminist thing needs to be rooted out, and we need some sort of a return to the A kind of patriarchal system that existed before feminism.
That was such a taboo position to hold throughout most of my adult lifetime.
But I see it coming back into the mainstream, if not to vogue, these days.
So that's new.
That to me is interesting.
And it's not something I've heard in 30 years.
Yeah, well, it's almost impossible, though.
Like, they're never going to.
I always would say repeal the 19th, but I don't think that'll ever happen.
It's not going to happen.
And like, it's almost pointless to talk about.
Like, I could see more fair custody laws being passed.
I couldn't see abortion being illegal.
I couldn't see that ever happening in my lifetime.
Well, I think what's happened is that some of these changes produce so much transformation in people's behavior that it becomes very difficult to restore the old system.
The old system cannot be, it can be recovered to some degree, but it has to be recovered under new conditions.
And so we can't literally go back to the 50s.
We can learn from the 50s and say there were certain things about the 50s that can improve our society now, but Also built into that system in the 50s were a lot of limitations that we would not accept today, even conservatives.
So that's why I think the effort I mean, there's an interest now, like in old architecture, old buildings, old lifestyles, like New York in 1910, you know, and people essentially going to farm for their own food.
And I think these impulses are coming from a healthy place, but it's a mistake to think that we're going to go back to the way the pilgrims live.
Oh, it's impossible.
There would be a world war if you took away abortion or the vote.
In my opinion, I could be wrong, right?
That's just my opinion.
Well, the thing about it is the vote, in the old view, which this is really what you'd have to argue if you were to repeal the 19th Amendment, is you would somehow have to argue that it is families that are represented by a single vote and not individuals.
But we've moved so far in the direction of like one man, one vote, and You know, and we are, and that the idea that any limitations on the vote, whether it's property limitations or are a burden, so we've been for 30 years getting rid one after the other of these so called burdens.
Uh, but the burdens were once seen as part of the logic of why voting should be structured in a certain way.
And so, as long as you define liberation as removing these burdens, uh, you're never going to see any kind of a return.
Well, I guess I think that's where the MRAs come in that the solution to feminism.
I think from that point of view would be more feminism.
Like, if women have to enlist in selective service, the same way that men do, they might rethink the right to vote.
You know, if women are starting to, the more men that put women on alimony and child support, like, you might see women rethinking that law if they're putting it too.
I think that's kind of the idea.
You're saying that when women have to suffer the same inflictions as men, they would begin to rethink their position on these things.
Well, that's interesting.
But look, I don't think that's actually going to happen.
And by that, I mean, can you envision a society, for example, where you're going to have, let's just say, out of the 400 billionaires in the United States, like 340 are women and 60 are men?
I don't see that happening, I mean, literally ever.
I mean, I could see women stealing it.
Divorcing guys.
Well, there you go.
I mean, truly, right?
I mean, if you make a list of female billionaires and then you put that little box that says source of wealth, I mean, I think we all know what the answer is going to be in that box.
Yeah, it's just so embarrassing.
It's like, I don't know why we keep doing this.
All this women's empowerment, and then our empowerment is stealing money from men.
Yeah.
Now, what do you think is the better way?
I mean, when you say it's embarrassing, you're saying it's embarrassing for women to play and be kind of humiliated in a man's world.
Isn't that what you're saying?
Well, I'm saying we draw so much attention.
I'm sorry.
Is the echo on your end?
I can hear an echo, so it's kind of hard for me to.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I hear you just fine.
I don't know.
I hear it in my ears, but I think I'm just like this.
I think it's better.
Women in Washington D.C. Society00:15:31
But I'm saying women, you just kind of take a lot of L's.
And so, for example, we don't raise as good of children as men.
In fact, we're like the primarily ones that abuse children.
When we do raise kids, they're more likely to be criminals, drug dealers, addicts you name it that's what we do.
Yet, we have a whole day dedicated to Mother's Day, which draws attention to it.
Then we have International Women's Day that's supposed to highlight our accomplishments.
And just from where I'm sitting, I don't really see many other than robbing men.
That's pretty harsh, and I don't know if I agree with that, but I do think that when feminism set up this whole expectation, the underlying assumption was this if you remove discrimination, there will be just as many great female inventors as men, physicists as men, creative artists as men, chefs as men.
In really every field, you're going to see the same outcomes because, after all, You know, men and women are fundamentally equal, maybe not in physical prowess, but certainly equal in intellectual endowment.
Now, the problem with that was actually brought out by Charles Murray, my old colleague at AEI, in his infamous book called The Bell Curve.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with this, but basically what he showed was that the male and female IQ, the bell curve, is not shaped the same way.
To put it in very simple terms, The women are bunched very much close to the middle, which is to say that you have male and females have the same average IQ, 100, but women fall very closely between, let's say, 90 and 110.
And there's a small number of women below 90, and there's a small number of women over 110, but the male bell curve is flatter.
So what you're getting at is there are just a lot more male geniuses and a lot more really stupid guys.
And so as a result, at the tail end of the bell curve, which is the upper end of the bell curve, There's no competition between men and women just because there are just far more men who, let's say, have an IQ over 130 than women.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
I know that's what the tests say, but it's just when I look at women and men in real life, I find that women, we just tend to find the most inefficient way to do things.
This is just off my personal experience.
I understand that academics have their point of view, but yeah.
Now, what do you mean by that when you say inefficient way to do things?
How are women inefficient?
What types of things do you refer to?
What type of tasks are you referring to?
Well, it would go back to like my sales job, for example.
I used to work in sales.
And you just find women waste more time during the day where men go to work, they make their calls, and they go home.
Where women, it's like they gossip at work, they go by the water cooler, et cetera, et cetera.
You know, we can't invent anything.
It just seems like whenever women have to get something done by themselves, we just can't seem to do it.
We always need the help of men, it seems like.
Yeah.
So you're saying even the old patriarchal division, which basically said men are good at running the world and women are good at running the home, you're saying you disagree with that.
You don't think women are good at running the home.
I think men are better at everything.
Wow.
I can't think of any.
I can't think of any.
I really tried to find anything we could beat men at.
I really looked and I'm like, men, when they raise children, they fear better than women.
Even like top Michigan shops, all men, top trans people went into doing makeup and beat us.
How embarrassing is that?
Like all the top makeup influencers, they're men.
So it's like, until we can produce anything.
I just, I have yet to.
Well, Pearl, they really needed you in some of those 60s, you know, consciousness raising seminars because you would have been the absolute spoiler at the feminist picnic.
And quite honestly, I would have been on the sidelines laughing my head off.
Well, I, you know, I didn't start with this opinion.
I just can't find anything.
I'm open to suggestions, but anything that we could do on our own that shows that we could do it better than men, I just haven't.
I'm still looking.
How many children has she produced?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, look, you need men and women in the world.
And there is a great reciprocity between men and women.
So I think you'll agree that if men and women can figure out a way to work kind of in combination, it's pretty powerful.
I mean, I'll give you an example.
The men can do the work and the women can nag.
Well, no, they don't have to nag.
I mean, women do have, look, you know.
I would say that women intuitively are smarter than men.
They have better judgment in general, they are better at sizing up a situation.
I mean, I say this partly just reflecting on myself.
I mean, I have some strengths, but very often I am a little naive to sort of situational awareness, partly because my mind is not that way.
And so that's now, again, I'm not saying it's because I'm a man, it may just be because that's just how I am.
But we're talking here about generalizations, right?
In general, men are this way, in general, women are that way.
And I think these generalizations are true.
Most people who observe the world can see that men and women do have collective average differences that are physical, intellectual, perhaps even moral across a wide range of spheres.
You know what this is?
Let me see.
I see something about Ted Bundy and the love lovers.
Serial killers.
Is that what we're looking at?
Yeah.
I just don't know if we have the best awareness when we're writing letters to Ted Bundy.
You know what I mean?
Right.
But remember that the women who are writing these letters to Ted Bundy are writing it from the safety of their homes.
So you have to look at it as a perverted fantasy and not as a reckless social behavior because these women would not take the same view if Ted Bundy was creeping in in their window.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't think it's just Ted Bundy, but I think I could even go into real life where, like, the guys getting in fights at high schools, I would say, pulled more women than the guys that didn't.
For sure.
Yeah.
So it's not just that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think that, I mean, an evolutionary biologist would say that that is because women are conditioned to select for strength.
Yeah.
And not necessarily for intellectual qualities.
And so what happens is that in high school, You know, girls are attracted to the strong football player, the male wrestler.
It's only later that they realize, oh, gee, you know what?
This guy in my, this kind of dork in my high school is now like, you know, he's worth $30 million and I probably should have gone for him, but, you know, he seemed so unattractive at the age of 16 that I couldn't even stand the guy.
I mean, that's a pretty common experience, right?
Yeah, but then women just cheat with the guys from before.
It's like a common trope.
Divorced men, they get cheated on with the personal trainer with no money, even super wealthy men.
I know a guy that works in one of these high end chains and he's with all the wild.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, it's.
I know.
Speaking of which, Elijah Stock, Sarah Stafer, what did you think about that?
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I don't know Elijah all that well.
I've been on his show a couple of times.
And I mean, I'm with you on this issue that a lot of these conservative moralists.
Particularly from the younger generation, that there is a lot of dark shadows in the background, right?
And I think this was a classic example of the dark shadows coming to the front, and all of us kind of like, especially those of us who are kind of older, where we're a little shocked, you know, we sort of sit back and we're like, hmm, wow, this is all pretty sordid.
And these are the traditionalists, so called.
What do you think about women in politics in general?
Well, look, the, I mean, women have been in, young, when I was, when I came to Washington, DC, this was in the early 80s, there were a lot of young guys and a lot of young women attracted to politics.
Part of it was the patriotism of the Reagan years.
And so there were a lot of young women who came into politics at the younger level, meaning they were, they came in to be administrative assistants, they came in to be legislative aides or LAs for the, on the Hill, they came at entry level jobs in the White House.
Now, interestingly, over the years, I noticed that the amount, the proportion of women shrunk.
And by that, I mean they would go off to grad school or they would go off, get married, and move to Ohio.
So the male proportion became larger over time.
But at the entry level, it seemed to me there were just as many women as there were men.
I do think that the DC world is pretty sordid.
And so, because it's all about what can you do for me, it's utilitarianism.
It is, if you go to a meeting, you'll see that people are looking over your shoulder to see if there's somebody more important that they could be meeting and why are they talking to you when they should be talking to that guy across the room.
This is a widespread sentiment, and the women feel it even more because if you are a woman and your husband's not a congressman or you're not important in your own right, you actually are uninteresting to the entire society of Washington, D.C. Sorry, could you expand on that a little more?
Also, do you have headphones?
Let me see if I have headphones.
I mean, we have some here, but can we get these to work?
Hang on, I'm gone.
It's a crap gun there.
But they're telling me the echo is because I think you're on speakers and so it's reverbing.
Yeah, okay.
Hold on, hang on.
I don't think that this can work.
That'll work.
Okay.
It's all right if not.
I just might mute you when I ask a question.
Yeah, yeah, that's fine too.
Hold on, we're gonna just try and see if we can get this to work.
I'm not sure if we can.
No, no, no, okay.
Yeah, we just we're not set up.
All right, let's go with the muting option, Pearl.
I think that's okay, that's okay.
We'll work with it, it's fine.
Yeah, um, sorry about that.
Uh, sorry, could you expand a little more on that?
You're saying that, well, that.
That's okay.
I was saying that in the society, in the company town called Washington, D.C., the only value that you bring to any social conversation is how important are you and what can you do for the person you're talking to.
They're measuring it very much just in terms of what can this person do for me in terms of influence or power or promotions or money.
And it's a comparative survey.
So if you're in a room of 50 people, the person talking to you.
Is surveying the room and basically saying, I'm talking to Dinesh.
Well, he's a seven.
He's an important guy because, you know, he's the editor of this magazine or he works in the Reagan White House.
But guess what?
That guy over there is an assistant to the president.
I would rather be talking to him if I could be.
How do I navigate my way over there next?
That's what I mean.
They're constantly running a calculation.
Right.
But I guess I'm asking with like women in politics, do you ever think it brings like, I can't remember her name.
I can't remember her name.
But it just seems like when women go into politics, there's a lot of drama that comes with it because men tend to like to get things done, where women tend to like drama.
It's kind of when I knew Candace Owens was going off the rails because her audience turned female.
Usually it's a lot more on facts, data, and statistics when it's like men.
Then there was a politician recently.
I can't think of her name.
Oh, this is going to bother me.
But she's bringing her like, Nudes into Congress and like suing her ex boyfriend.
It was this whole thing.
And it just seems like women kind of bring drama into politics rather than getting things done.
Do you agree or disagree with that?
I agree in general.
I do think that that's not.
I think I've seen women who are that way, and I've also met women who are low drama.
There was a very funny, well, in a way, very profound paper that was published many years ago, a scholarly paper.
And it was about the question of why old people go on and on and on.
Why do they talk so much, right?
And no, no, it applies to the topic we're talking about.
The simple answer was old people have more time, right?
Yeah.
Old people, time is less valuable for them.
And so they spend an awful lot of time about what things were like in like 65 and, you know, when the Beatles released their first album and where they were and what it meant to them.
They go on and on because time is less valuable to them.
Apply the same logic to men and women.
And I think, in general, you'll find that I think it's true.
For women, the value of time is less.
And so, as a result, you're going to have more conversation, more shooting the bull, more drama.
And for men, I think that the value of time is generally assigned to be higher.
And this kind of thing is seen as a waste of time.
Like, to me, I'm actually pretty good in small talk and stuff, but I don't like it.
I feel like it's wasting time.
Now, I recognize that there's a necessary function to it, and I do perform the function, but I do it like reluctantly.
And I avoid situations with a lot of small talk.
Like, I don't want to, I hate to go to a party where I'm drifting all the time from one small talk to another small talk.
I feel like putting a gun to my head at the end of it.
I don't mind small talk as a portal to like real talk, but small talk for its own sake to me is very painful.
Well, I think that's a general sentiment amongst men.
I think if you asked, like, you pulled men and if we could get rid of small talk forever.
They would agree or disagree.
I think most men would agree, no?
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Well, you know, C.S. Lewis, the writer, makes a point about male friends, and it illuminates this point.
What he says is that you could have two guys who have known each other for 30 years, right?
And they are drawn by certain common interests, whether it is they're obsessed with literature or they both care about politics.
It could be anything.
It could even be like they like bird watching or whatever.
But he goes, the remarkable thing is, 30 years into their friendship, they don't know basic facts about each other.
Like one guy may not know the names of the other guy's kids.
Yeah.
Or even how many he has.
Yeah.
So men actually aren't really good.
He's my best friend.
Really?
How many kids does he have?
I don't know.
Beats me.
I mean, it's not that they couldn't even approximate, they don't even have a general idea.
So that is very much the essence of male, all, you know, purely male relationships.
And I think how inconceivable that would be for two women.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's say.
I'm going to mute you for a second.
Okay.
Let's say you met a young Charlie Kirk, 25 years old, ready to make an impact on the world.
What advice would you give to him about professional and personal relationships?
Well, on the professional side, Charlie was, I think, an innovative genius.
He was great at, he was very good at building an institution, which is not easy to do.
There was another organization that was the kind of conservative campus organization.
In fact, I spoke for it for 25 years on many, many campuses.
They were the dominant group.
And Charlie just kind of effortlessly eclipsed them.
It's kind of like they were chugging along in their Hyundai, and here's Charlie's Ferrari, zoom, we went right by them.
So, you couldn't improve on that.
Charlie was just a genius at that.
He was not an intellectual of any kind.
I mean, obviously, he dropped out of college, but he was very good as an entrepreneur and institution builder.
So, I would just tell him to keep going in the lane that he was in.
Now, oddly enough, in Charlie's personal life, it was a little more tricky.
Now, I wasn't close to Charlie, so I don't claim to be like somebody who was surveying his personal relationships or any of that, but I do know both.
Direct observation and from a couple of people I know who are big donors to Charlie, whom I know quite well, that they were trying to set him up with different well established society women.
But Charlie was a little too awkward.
And so the girls would run away and they would basically say, No, no, he's not our type, and so on.
So that's all I know about Charlie in the personal domain.
And so maybe if he had asked, I would have given him more advice in that area, but it never really came to that.
I'm sorry, I meant someone like Charlie Kirk, like young and ambitious.
Like, what advice would you give them for the future?
Not Charlie in particular.
Oh, right, right.
So, I think that for someone who, for a young man a la Charlie, who's like making their way in the world, I would say in general that if they want to have a traditional life, which is to say a wife and a family, they are much better off marrying a traditional woman who is a homemaker and a mom.
than they are marrying a kind of career, a person in some rival or even non-rivals, even some other career like a dentist, because the added value of that to what they're doing is very low compared to the great value that you would have from somebody who is going to have a nice home, look after your kids, and build a life alongside you as opposed to running in a parallel lake.
Do you think that traditional women even exist in 2026?
Because wouldn't, in order to be, I gotta mute you for a second.
Wouldn't, in order to be traditional, she can't have leverage?
And just entering into the marriage contract, she'd automatically have leverage.
Well, let me put it this way.
I grew up in a very traditional society because not only did I grow up in a different generation, but I grew up in India.
So I grew up in a society where, you know, I had, you know, it was a patriarchal society for my parents, for my grandparents.
Now, interestingly, my grandparents, my grandmothers were both very feisty.
They would never challenge my grandparents.
Fathers in public, but they did kind of rule the roost in many areas.
They were the boss and the acknowledged boss in large domains of life.
And they did have a certain type of, when I say career, you have to understand, I don't mean career in the normal sense.
I think that's true, Jacob.
Sorry, keep going.
Yeah, yeah.
They didn't have a career per se, but they did have a sort of public life.
And the public life could be, you know, I'm involved in the women's sodality or I have a bridge club or I'm, you know, I'm doing this or I'm.
I'm singing in church.
And so the point is that the things in a traditional society are not such that women have no public life.
The only thing is that their public life is subordinate to their private responsibilities and obligations.
And so, in that sense, I do think it is quite possible to have a traditional life today.
It won't look the same as it did in 1920 or 1950, but it will be traditional compared to anything else that's there now.
Yes, I guess traditional compared to what's out there.
But I'm just, you know, doing that, I'm doing a documentary on divorce.
And I've just, I've seen a lot of women that maybe start as traditional, but then they don't feel like being traditional later.
And so it just seems like even if you get a traditional woman, like it's just going to be based on if she feels like it.
And God only knows what we feel like every day, you know?
Well, I mean, I agree that if a woman is driven by, Vicissitudes of feeling alone, you can't possibly have a traditional life, right?
A traditional life is a way of saying that even those feelings are going to be within a certain type of framework or lane.
If I think of my mom, for example, my mom was, she did work for brief periods while I was growing up, but generally not.
She was a mom, you know, of the three of us.
And I think that her feelings, which ran the gamut, nevertheless operated within a traditional.
Sort of groove.
She never stepped out of that groove.
And in that groove, she saw women as having certain responsibilities and roles.
And, you know, she was protective of those, but she wouldn't think of trespassing outside of that.
Yeah.
It's just tough now.
You're, you're, the young guys are like, they're competing now with men, you know, that are very famous for the young women, right?
They're competing with famous men, they're competing with the option of OnlyFans.
You hear that 10% of Gen Z women are on OnlyFans, and that doesn't include sugar sites and other sex work sites.
You heard that?
The estimated could be up to a quarter.
No, I'm afraid I haven't heard that.
And it is tough.
I mean, I think it's also tough because a lot of these young men want women to sort of look reverentially up to them in a traditional way, but they're not able to provide the things that traditional men have been able to.
For those women to feel secure.
I mean, think about it.
If a woman's basically going to say, I'm not going to work, I'm going to put myself at your mercy.
You're the provider, you deliver for the family.
Well, the man needs to be able to do that.
Yeah, but women can just be older, and then you can get a guy that dies.
No, I know.
Well, that's the point.
I think that's what you're getting at is that in a more traditional society, that market of older men is not available.
You know, I mean, if you think about it, if you lived in America in the 1940s and, you know, you were, let's just say, a 25 year old, you didn't have any access to 45 year old or 55 year old men.
They were married, they had kids, and in fact, most of them were looking kind of old by then.
And so we are in a very different situation where older men have easier access to these younger women.
It's obviously not, I don't think, a desirable or healthy situation, but it's almost like it's become a market of a kind that is very distasteful.
Oh, and the other way around, too.
I mean, these old broads are dating these young guys, too.
It's like I've seen an influx of that.
I saw a couple the other day.
I couldn't even believe it.
It looked like his mother.
And how do you explain that?
Is that because the.
Old broad had inherited a bunch of money, and this guy was like, as you say, a personal trainer.
What was going on there?
How do you read it?
The older, I mean, the women are usually good looking, like for their age, but the guys their age are dating like younger.
So if a dude's 45, he's going to date 30, 25, 20.
I mean, he can go all like as young as he wants.
So you get the 35, 40 year old women, they don't get attention from their guys their age.
Well, guess who's not getting attention from the women their age?
The young men.
And plus, they need to date casually.
I know they don't need to, but a lot of them will just date the old broad.
Casually for a few months till they find their wife, you know, till they're old enough to enter into the marketplace with the young hot women.
I see what you mean.
You're saying that their own generation is rejecting them.
And so they're basically picking up kind of scraps wherever they could get it.
It's very depressing if you think about it.
I mean, you're like a commentator in a very nihilistic age.
And, but it's not an inaccurate description of the world we see around us.
It's not good, but it's where we are.
Can you imagine, like, you go to high school with.
Let me show you.
Hold on.
I'm going to view it.
You go to high school with.
Hold on.
You go to high school with this cute girl in your class, and you find out you ask her out, she says no, and you lost a Spider Man.
Like, she's like a normal looking girl on the right.
Like, she's cute, right?
But not like a model.
And she's like 20.
This guy's like, I don't know, 40 ish.
You know, now you lost your girl to Spider Man.
Imagine.
Right, right.
Oh, yeah.
No, it must be very disheartening for.
For a young man to be in that situation, that's for sure.
And here's the other way around.
I think this is Jessica.
I think it was.
I remember Jessica Alba from like the 90s.
A lot of guys do.
They loved her.
She's still a child.
I don't think I've seen a picture of her recently.
Is this her now?
Yeah, but you know, she still looks good, but now she's dating the 20 something year old guy.
He knows this isn't his wife, right?
I think he's like, there's an age gap with these two, too.
And, you know, he knows this isn't his wife, but she doesn't need a second husband because she already had her kids.
So now they can just.
Well, I also wonder whether there is an element here, and this is always the case with Hollywood, right?
That this is the way that the young man gets himself photographed, right?
Because if he had a normal girlfriend, however pretty, he's not going to be in Vogue magazine or he's not going to be on the runway.
But if he's with Jessica Alba, he might be.
Yeah, there's a she's Jessica Alba's 44, Danny Ramirez is 30, or it says 33 here.
I don't know, it's around there, but yeah, also then all Jessica Alba's fans are now going to slide in his DM, so it's kind of a win win because if it works out, it works out.
If it doesn't, now all the Jessica Alba fans are probably younger, better, maybe not better looking, she was really attractive back in the day, but like good looking gals that now they're going to slide into his DM, so it's kind of a win win.
Pretending Taboos Are Okay00:02:21
Interesting, wow.
Okay, have you, and you don't have, I'm sorry, I keep forgetting to mute you.
Now, you don't have to answer this if you don't want to, because this is a little controversial.
Have you heard of black fatigue, and do you have it?
You can say next.
I'm not, you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
This is a topic that I'm more comfortable with than any other topic you've raised so far.
What I mean is, I've actually written extensively about race and civil rights, I wrote a book called The End of Racism.
Now, I have seen by chance on Instagram a website that's called something like, I don't know if it's called Black Fatigue or something thereabouts, but it is essentially videos of Blacks doing ridiculous things and people commenting on it.
And my view of this, by the way, is that it is good to have websites like this because this is actually part of what opens up a taboo subject of discussion that has been suppressed ruthlessly.
Since about 1964.
And so taboos are not good, at least they're not good for so long.
I'm not against taboos at all, but this is too much.
And particularly in an area where, for example, whites are fair game, I think it's perfectly fine to see a lot more like candid expression, let people say what they really think.
We do live in a free country.
And a lot of this behavior is abominable.
And we're supposed to pretend like it's okay.
I'm not going to pretend it's okay, it's not okay.
Yeah, I got black fatigued because I had a 100% black staff at one point.
Oh my God, the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
Are you saying that it was a miniature of like the African National Congress running South Africa?
Yeah, I moved to London and there's a lot of Africans there.
I lived in London for three years.
I saw the Muslim stuff firsthand.
I lived in Whitechapel.
Don't know if you know where that's at, but that's like the Muslim stuff you talk about.
I lived that.
But to the African, I hired a 100% African.
African or black American staff.
And I did, it wasn't intentional, but yeah, I got cameras robbed.
I got, I was called a colonizer.
Frontier Airlines Baggage Rules Shock00:04:46
It was like a whole thing.
So I experienced that like firsthand.
Well, I think what's happened is, and I don't really, I think the liberals are to blame for this even more than the blacks.
And that is this the liberals have spent half a century trying to convince black America that this country owes you a living.
Now, a lot of blacks believe it.
And it's kind of comforting to believe it, right?
If any group, I mean, quite honestly, if I came to America, I knew nothing.
I was not political.
I just got here.
And somebody were to say, hey, guess what?
India is a victim of colonization by the British.
And so we're going to be sending you a check for like $3,000 a month for the rest of your life.
I'd be like, bring it on, right?
In other words, I'm not going to say no.
I didn't have any money.
I would be like, wow, this is fascinating.
I'm really glad to hear that there are people who think this way.
And I'll be the happy recipient of all this great historical debt settling.
I was very impressed.
Yeah, yeah, right.
So, what I'm getting at is, I don't really think it is strange that blacks have quickly accepted the liberal thesis of their own reparations, their own welfare.
And even after trillions of dollars have been paid over the decades, well, I mean, we're only just getting started.
We want they want.
I want to get your reaction to this at the terminal ends with three women in handcuffs.
And tonight, police say it all started over baggage fees moments before a Philadelphia bound frontier flight.
Deputies say the trio forced their way onto the plane.
And when law enforcement told them to get off the plane, they refused.
CBS News Miami's Anna McAllister is your reporter live at Miami International Airport where the outbursts happen.
Anna.
Lauren, just imagine this.
You just made a flight, you're waiting to take off, but then three people on your flight, they get into it with deputies and the flight staff, and then everyone is forced to deplane, including yourself.
That's what happened over the weekend when this flight, this Frontier flight, was heading to Philadelphia, and these three women got into it with not only law enforcement, but the staff there.
Check out this cell phone video of the moment that these three women had to deep board the plane in handcuffs.
Check this out.
You look good.
You're not going to do shit.
Enjoy prison, baby.
This happened last night at MIA after 26-year-old Devana Cochran, 21-year-old Diajana Cochran, and 30-year-old Nafisa Dockery refused to get off their Frontier flight.
Now, according to the arrest reports, it all started after a Frontier worker told them they would have to pay for their baggage.
Investigators say that they refused and then got into an argument with the employee.
After the employee told them that they would not be allowed on the plane unless they paid for their baggage, they stormed onto the plane.
Deputies were called.
They went onto the plane and they told the three of them that they had to get off.
Well, the arrest report states that the deputies asked them multiple times, but they refused.
Law enforcement was then forced to have the entire plane evacuate in order to arrest this trio.
And during the struggle, deputies say that Dockery spit on a woman.
And we showed Frontier passengers the video of the women being escorted off the plane.
Here's the reaction.
It's really crazy.
Like, it's disturbing because why are you acting like this towards the workers?
I mean, you know the rules and regulations.
When you read the flight, they give you all the information, the rules.
You know you're supposed to pay for baggage.
Why act like this?
That's insane.
The group is charged with battery trespassing after a warning and resisting an officer.
They're expected to appear in bond court tomorrow.
And we did reach out to Frontier and MIA for their safety.
You know, it's bad in black people and black fatigue.
Well, that's true.
And look, you know, I'm tempted to say, make jokes about Spirit Airlines or Frontier Airlines.
I won't do that.
I won't do that.
No, you can.
You can.
It's a safe space.
Yeah, actually, going a little different direction.
So, when I was at Dartmouth, this is going back to the 1980s, you would have the Black Student Association, they would walk into the president's office, right?
And these are all kids from middle and upper middle class families.
These are not like ghetto kids.
And they would go in there and they would kick over his waste paper basket and they would go sit in his seat and they would take over his office and push him out.
And then he would come out and issue some statement about how, you know, because of historical discrimination, that's why these things take place.
Arrogance After Medical Mistakes00:03:07
And he was very, he would confess that he's been insensitive to their needs.
So what I'm getting at is think about it.
This is how you cultivate this kind of mentality, right?
What makes you think?
In a normal way, what makes you think that you could, let's say, force your way onto a plane?
Well, the answer is you forced your way into situations 20 times before and nothing happened to you.
You've misbehaved and nobody said anything.
And so as a result, you feel this sense of immunity.
And then you get shocked when you're like in handcuffs because you're like, uh oh, the rules do apply.
What?
I thought I was black.
So I think that's what's going on here.
And it's because of this societal sense of immunity that has been actually cultivated by the left.
I have one more.
This is so bad.
It's so bad.
Hold on.
Let me mute it.
Okay.
What do I got there?
Authorities in Georgia have suspended the license of a doctor who turned routine cosmetic procedures into dance routine procedures.
As Mark Strossman reports, patients have been complaining for more than two years now.
Gotta bring your body and smile to match.
In video she posted online, Dr. Wendell Davis Boutet is both dancing dermatologist and singing surgeon.
She mugs for the camera and raps with an unconscious patient inches away, cutting and cutting up in the same rhythmic moment.
But at least seven of her patients have sued her for malpractice, with scars that look more like butchery than surgery.
When I first saw those videos, I was completely shocked.
O.J. LeBerb's mother, Isolma Cornelius, went in for liposuction surgery in 2016.
He doesn't know whether the doctor was dancing during his mother's procedure, but the 54 year old patient went into cardiac arrest.
She suffered permanent brain damage.
When you looked at those videos, did you think the focus was where it was supposed to be on the patient?
No.
What is your mother's future?
My mother's future is mainly bed rest, wheelchair sitting.
Davis Boutet has settled at least four malpractice suits, including with the Cornelius family, for an undisclosed amount.
But even this week, she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
Would I go back and do anything differently?
No, because it was something unforeseen and unpreventable.
Georgia's Composite Medical Board disagreed this week, suspending Davis Boutet's medical license.
It called her a threat to public safety and said she failed to conform to the minimal standards in the cases of seven patients, including Isoma Cornelian.
It just seems that there's a lot of arrogance of her to say, I didn't do anything wrong.
Paramedics were called when Cornelius went into cardiac arrest in the doctor's outpatient clinic.
But the elevator.
So, what's incredible is the arrogance here for me, anyways.
I'm going to let you go.
But, like, this is what I mean.
Watching the World Burn Down00:04:53
It's like women, we do a terrible job, but then we draw attention to the terrible job.
It's like if you just did a terrible job and didn't post that online, you probably would have got away with it.
But you, the arrogance, look how bad of a job I'm doing, everybody.
Yeah.
So, what did you think of that?
I mean, my view, there's two things going on here.
One is there is this.
Very irritating habit that is now developed in our society.
And by the way, notice this, Pearl, with regard to ads.
You notice in commercials these days, people are always dancing, like her.
Every commercial, no matter for what, people are doing these idiotic dances.
They're not even great dancers, but they're always, it's like, let it all hang out, whatever you're selling, whether it's a medical product.
So that's part of it.
The other thing about it is the DEI aspect of it, which is to say, If you're going to have DEI, you know, don't be a doctor.
Like, don't be a pilot, right?
If you want to be, because if you want to do DEI, like, go into sociology, because what's the harm of a bad sociologist?
Yeah, but men, I feel like men almost can't help it.
It's like in their DNA.
When they have a young, pretty girl asking for help, they just want to help her get ahead.
They just want to.
I saw this video of the firefighters, and it's all these guys basically cheering on this woman through her, like, physical test.
And I'm like, You're basically cheering her on to give you sexual harassment lawsuits later and take your job in the future.
You guys are cheering.
But men, they just, the women smile and it's like, it's almost like they can't help it.
Well, just as women have a certain, you know, I think you were getting at this much earlier this kind of tolerance or compassion impulse, men have this sort of chivalric impulse, which is to say that, you know, you're a bunch of Marines and you've all done a test and the one woman is trying out, can't do the test, but you're going to egg her on to try to help her out.
Get her over the fence.
You know, that is in fact the male instinct.
Now, I'm not saying that should be the admissions requirements, but that is a human tendency on the male side that's worth it, it's just part of the furniture of the male character.
What do you think about what's going on in London with all the immigration?
Because I lived at, do you know where Whitechapel is in London?
Kind of, yes.
Yeah, sort of.
I lived by that giant mosque.
Yeah.
I mean, I think this is a bit of a warning, isn't it, to America?
Because the problems in a lot of these European cities are, it's almost like they've gone past a certain tipping point, right?
And it's going to be difficult to get it back.
And I'm not even sure they want to get it back because it's almost like Europe has lost its will to live as a civilization.
And they are now almost willingly submitting to the, you could almost call it more masculine force of Islam, which has not lost the force of its original revelation.
I mean, just think about the true believers in Islam versus these athlete characters like Macron and Keir Starmer, and even in Canada, Tim Carney.
I mean, these guys are such emasculated men, and they are representatives, they are the leaders of these societies.
Yeah, it seems like it's impossible to fix.
It's almost like we're in the position where you kind of got to watch the world burn.
Because just living there, I'm like, I don't know how you would get rid of all of the immigrants that are there.
There's first generation, second generation.
I lived in an apartment complex and I would see Muslims with like three, four kids.
I didn't really see that with British people.
That's part of it.
Part of it is simply the inability of the society to say no.
And so, for example, You know, if you or I were to go to the United Arab Emirates and we were to say, We want to build the largest church in the Middle East right here in the UAE, they'd be like, Well, no, you can't do that.
You know, we allow churches and all, but we're not going to allow that because we're a Muslim society, right?
So every other civilization reserves the right to say, This is who we are, and we're not going to allow that, except us.
And so Western society will say, Well, we don't have any way to stop you if you buy the land with your own money and you Build this mosque and it's the biggest mosque in Christendom.
Well, I guess it's that's the way it's going to have to be.
So, this unwillingness to protect the frontiers of our own civilized society is a very pathological Western impulse.
Conservative Appeal of Marriage Litigation00:03:42
And I think it's less in America than in Europe, but we what I see it even in this country.
Oh, god, yeah.
I mean, I'm in Texas, there's a lot here.
Um, okay.
The I want to take questions from the audience if that's okay, and then, um My co host had a couple of questions too.
Is that all right?
Yeah, let's take a couple and I'll need to sign out after that.
Sure, let's do it.
Okay, so ask whether Ronald Reagan wasn't the one who introduced no fault divorce when he was the governor of California.
Well, the answer is he, I wouldn't say he introduced it, but he, as governor, did sign it.
Now, he later said that he regretted it because he had.
See, remember when Reagan was running, these so-called cultural issues had not, they were not in the forefront.
Even abortion was not in the forefront in the 60s.
It came to the forefront with Roe in 1973.
So the way Reagan put it is that you had all this marriage litigation.
It was all based on fault.
And so the courts had to figure out who was the one who did wrong in the marriage.
Not easy to figure out, by the way, mutual accusations flying back and forth.
And so the original appeal of no fault divorce was that we won't get into any of that.
We'll kind of keep it simple.
We'll act as if both parties are equally to blame because we don't really know what was going on behind closed doors.
There was a certain kind of conservative appeal to it.
And Reagan went along with it, but I think he realized over time that it also, first of all, it created a lot more divorce.
And so he later expressed regrets, but he was in fact the governor who did sign it into law.
Yeah.
And I had a child support officer on the show who was from California.
He was kind of going through the history.
He said there was such a backup, like all the courts were backed up because there were so many people that wanted to get divorced then.
Exactly.
And, you know, and also a lot of times, you know, in those days, if you could.
Prove infidelity, the person who was unfaithful got nothing.
So it would be a straight out, each side would try to hire an investigator, catch the other person red handed, because you could then play that in court and it's like, boom, I get everything.
I keep the house.
So there was a certain type of, there was something about the old system that wasn't that great either.
And this was proposed as a reform and its effects were not clear when Reagan signed the law.
So she gets everything if he's unfaithful?
All you would do is play the video, boom, and it would be like, okay, there you go.
Well, what if she got fat?
What is he supposed to do?
Hey, he said, let me mute it.
We met at UCLA.
Benny says, we met at UCLA a few days before Trump first got elected in 2016.
I'm sure he remembers it meticulously.
You autographed my book, Welcome to the Pearl World.
I'm thinking of relocating to your son in law's district.
Congressman Brandon Gill, and he represents the northern suburbs of Dallas.
And he's the youngest congressman in the GOP at 31 and doing a great job.
So I don't know whether to tell you to relocate or not, but you'll be well represented.
I'll tell you that.
Doug MPA is here.
He had one or two questions.
He could go home with me sometimes.
Liberal Shift in New York City00:14:38
So, first off, Tanesh, thank you for coming on the show.
I've been a fan for years.
One of my favorite things on your podcast.
You're talking about Marxist ideology and how that's tied to the mass immigration of Muslims to Europe.
Can you kind of outline that for the audience?
Yeah, in classical Marxism, the division of society is just between the rich and the poor, or between the capitalist class at the top and the working class at the bottom, right?
It's a class division.
The innovation of modern leftism is to take that exact framework but stick in a bunch of new groups.
So men become the oppressors and women become the victims.
Heterosexuality is the oppressor, and homosexuality or LGBTQ is the victim, or the native.
Is the oppressor and the immigrant is the victim, or the West is the oppressor and the non West is the victim, or Christianity is the oppressor and Islam is the victim.
And so what happens is that we're seeing many, it's like an accordion, many variations on the Marxist theme, but with substitutions of new oppressors and new victims.
Exact same framework, by the way.
And so I would call this a certain type of neo Marxism or I've called it identity socialism because it marries socialism with identity politics.
But this is the connection between the broad Marxist framework and the new way in which these Marxist categories are now applied.
But they're not just applicable to race, I mean, to class.
They're applicable now to race and gender and many other categories.
Awesome.
Great answer.
This takes me to you've heard of the term suicidal empathy.
Yes.
You see, like, Why are the left because the suicidal empathy, like the left, are prone to suicidal empathy, and that's why you see them marching against ice and all this garbage?
Like, why are the left prone to suicidal empathy, and like, what can we do to change so much suicidal empathy in the current society right now?
Like, what can we possibly do?
So, it seems like my friend Godsod is the advocate of this notion of suicidal empathy.
I would qualify it in.
In a couple of ways, because I don't think that the leadership of the left or the Democratic Party is guilty of any kind of empathy, suicidal or not.
Rather, it is always a longstanding tactic of any kind of exploitation to prey upon the decency of other people, right?
Think of every con man.
Think of everyone who's trying to sell you something is preying on something that is decent within you, but applying it to an indecent.
Objective.
And so, this suicidal empathy per se, what you have is very cunning people who will say things like, Here, I'm about to invade your society, but you're too nice a person to object.
Or, I'm about to punch you in the face, but you're a Christian, so you've got to turn the other cheek.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, this is a way in which the ruthless people of the world who are not empathetic at all, they don't give a damn.
But they are praying, praying in the sense of P R E Y, praying on the empathy of others to essentially get them to go along with their nefarious projects.
That's a great answer.
I can't believe I'm asking these questions.
I've been a fan of the US for years.
Okay.
And I have one last question because I know you have to go.
Okay.
Mamdani is mayor of New York.
New York is cooked, right?
How cooked is New York?
And what do you think New York is going to look like in three to five years?
Well, if we think about the so called red-green alliance, where the red represents sort of socialism or the commies, and green represents Islam, I am more concerned about the green part of it than the red.
And I think Momdani can do more damage in that area.
So he doesn't have control over taxes in New York.
The governor is far more powerful than Momdani.
Yes, he can put some city levies and that sort of thing.
So, but I don't think that in terms of like fiscal policy, Mom Dhani is going to be any worse than, say, de Blasio.
I mean, you can't get worse.
De Blasio is horrible.
Mom Dhani will be just as horrible.
But I think the difference is that Mom Dhani will promote in very subtle ways, and he's very good at it, the Islamization of New York.
I mean, you just see it already, right?
He has some like staff meeting.
Everybody's like sitting on the ground on like a prayer rug, you know, and they're all eating out of their hands.
And so the symbolism already is different.
Even now, in the short time he's been in office.
So it's quite possible that New York will look more like Qatar in five years, just in terms of the public symbolism of it.
You're going to see a lot more of the call to prayer, and you're going to see a lot more just cultural Islamization is part of what Mom Dhani is all about.
My wife calls him a human victory arch because just as Muslims have built victory arches all over the world when they Typically conquered places.
It's almost like in this case, you have this walking victory arch, and his name is Zorhan Mamdani.
Yeah, I think what another thing that could pick a picture we're just talking about is I grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood, and it was a military suburb.
The 10 years I was there, the military officers moved out, but then a bunch of LDS Mormons moved in.
So I had a special kind of dislike for Mormons.
He hates.
When the Olympics happened in Salt Lake City, I was like, oh, here we go.
And sure enough, now we have LDS all over the place.
So I think that's kind of what you're talking about with it being a mayor in New York, right?
Sorry, what did you say?
Oh, I said, you know, I had a really bad experience with Mormons growing up.
And so when they had, like, I can't stand Mormons myself.
So when they had the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, I was like, oh man, because that had a big international event in Salt Lake City that exposed a bunch of people to LDS.
And I think that's kind of what you're saying when it comes to Mandami in New York City.
Just the exposure and the normalization of Islam in New York City, correct?
Yeah, I mean, let me leave you guys with this thought.
I think if Sharia law ever comes to America, it's not going to look like bin Laden.
Or Mullah Omar, who was the old Mullah from the Taliban, it's going to look more like Momdani.
I mean, this guy's like sheik.
You know, he grew up in Uganda.
He's part Indian.
You know, he eats curry.
You know, he makes really good social media videos.
So if Sharia comes to America, it's going to wear more of an American face, which is why we need to be more on guard because it's not going to perhaps look like the stereotype of what people expect.
I never even thought of that.
Awesome.
I've been a big fan of yours for years, Janesh.
Thank you for coming on the show, man.
I'm kind of fanning over here.
Thank you so much.
Hey, I appreciate it.
Keep up the good work, man.
You've been a game changer for so many people out there.
I hope you know the impact that you've made.
I've been a fan of yours for years, man.
Thank you for coming on the show.
Hey, it means a lot.
Thank you very much.
Where can the people find you?
Follow me on X at Dinesh D'Souza.
Check out my weekly show.
It's just called Dinesh.
I do it, it's on X, it's on Rumble, it's on YouTube.
It's also on Apple and Spotify if you want to listen in audio.
So, and then I'm working on a new film project which actually ties into these issues of Islamization that we've been talking about.
So, look out for that.
It'll be out probably out in the fall.
Cool.
Well, guys, make sure you subscribe to his channel, follow him on X. Uh, thanks for coming on.
Come back anytime.
Love it.
Thank you.
Bye.
Awesome.
That was fun.
I knew that would make your day.
Yeah, man.
I knew we were going to talk after this.
We might as well do it here.
Yeah.
So, guys, here's the thing with people like Dinesh you have to be willing to hear differing opinions on things.
And I don't agree with Dinesh all the time.
But look, guys, I'm in my mid 40s.
So, he was one of the voices that were against just liberal mainstream garbage.
You know what I'm saying?
And like, I didn't agree with everything, but the fact that he was making the effort and coming out with all these different documentaries and just presenting a different point of view, you know, you need people like that.
And also, remember, he's another one of those where he's been speaking out against the European immigration thing for years.
And there have been key issues with Dinesh.
He sounded kind of like the odd person or the crazy person.
But then fast forward to 10 years later, and he's right about a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm kind of new to his work, but he's a cool guy.
Seems really intelligent.
Go into his stuff not expecting to agree with everything, but just, you know, he comes from a time where people didn't talk like him or he would.
Guys like him were kind of like the red pill was Tom Likas, where Tom Likas would be red pill.
On radio, Dinesh was kind of like that, where he would be right wing in a time where, you know, it could be risky to have that kind of voice.
He's still going, you know?
Yeah, guys, people are putting stuff.
Okay.
Communist is a good, good word on here.
Definitely not censored on YouTube.
Definitely if the AI picks up you disparaging it whatsoever.
Yeah, guys, when people come on, I. I'm always going to be respectful.
So if your questions are kind of rude, I'm not going to ask them.
You know, if they start being rude, he wouldn't.
But like if they start being rude to me, I might go.
But there's one or two where I'm like, guys, I'm not asking him that.
The questions in the chat.
But yeah, that was a fun interview.
I hope he comes back another time.
Yeah, you introduced him a little bit to the red pill.
Like he had to kind of tread lightly a little bit.
Steve had the stupid echo.
That was my fault.
I didn't notice it before.
Like I talked to him really quick and I just didn't notice it.
But lesson learned.
Next show, I'll make sure I do a more.
A better mic test before.
But, anyways, my favorite part is when I said women aren't better at anything and I don't believe IQ tests.
I like what he said about New York.
He's right, man.
Like, you're going to have these liberal, like what he said about the whole Muslim thing.
It's not going to look like a bunch of guys trying to subjugate women and lock people in cages and stuff.
It's not.
It's going to be more of this liberal.
I never even thought about that, man.
I was glad that you asked those questions because it's just a little like I don't follow New York politics that closely, other than women getting beat on the subways.
So I was kind of freaked out.
That's all I know is these women are getting beat.
So I'm like, Doug MPA, I'm going to have you ask these questions because I'm just going to sound so dumb talking.
Well, you know, all you have to know is, guys, New York is cooked.
So actually, in Dallas, so many.
Companies have either left New York or are going to leave New York.
That there's something in Dallas called Y'all Avenue.
Y'all Avenue.
It's going to be like the new kind of Wall Street, but in Dallas.
Yeah.
Y'all, no, Y'all Street, the history and future of Texas finance.
I would love to see Dinesh 1v1 with Paul Elam on your channel as the moderator.
I would do that if he was down.
I don't know if he'd do it, but I would do it.
Sorry, I just read a super chat.
You can keep going, Doug.
Oh, yeah, but the governor of New York is recognizing how many businesses are leaving and how much revenue.
Because people forget, we already established the other day that white men pay 70 something percent of the taxes in this country.
And corporations still pay the most of taxes, right?
Well, a bunch of corporations are moving out of New York to the point where the governor is like, what is going on in New York City?
We got to do something to keep these businesses here, and they're all going to Y'all Street in Dallas.
Major firms and institutions are moving or expanding to Dallas, including Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Charles Schwab, and Fidelity.
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Huh.
Y'all Street.
There's going to be a new Texas stock exchange and high rise towers in North Dallas, Texas.
Huh.
Okay.
Well, I'm down.
I want more stuff in Texas.
Yeah, because I feel like, honestly, the downtown in Dallas has a lot of space.
Like, there's just a lot of empty, it seems like a lot of stuff closed down, like restaurants and old office buildings.
So, I think there's a lot of room for people to come in.
So, it'd be kind of lit if, like, a bunch of big companies came in.
Someone asked me when I'm going on whatever.
Um, I mean, I'd go on, but I just am not really going to go out of my way.
You know what I mean?
Like, if I was in town and I had an extra day, I'll do it, but I'm just not dying to argue with these broads.
So, yeah.
And guys, I mean, what do you really want to hear Pearl going back and forth with freaking 19 year old OnlyFans girls about?
Would it even be productive at this point?
Well, people love watching me dunk on them.
He'd probably make more money.
Okay.
Touche.
Dude, yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks for tuning in, everybody.
Doug MPA, you got any final thoughts?
Yeah, guys.
Once again, Dinesh D'Souza, one of the best things you can do follow his work and just don't expect to agree with him on everything.
But remember, he.
How old is Dinesh D'Souza?
Dinesh D'Souza.
D'Souza age.
Yeah, he's 64 years old and he's been talking like this for a long time.
And he comes from an age where, you know, there weren't a lot of people speaking like him.
And the fact that he's still going, you follow his work, but just don't expect to agree with all of him, all of his views, and you'll really appreciate what he's doing.
Oh, actually, before we go, I want to show you some woman giving me more content and keeping me employed forever.
Did you see what Brett Cooper said?
We got a couple things.
So we got, first off, we got Michaela Peterson thirst trapping with a baby bump, which is incredible, and a Jesus cross.
Of course.
Like, that's pretty low on the tits.
Am I right?
Like, isn't that kind of incredible?
She's going to have to have C section because of those herpes.
This one.
I am a new mom.
My baby is only six months old.
I can only speak to my own experience.
And this is coming from somebody who, You know, has always wanted to be a mom.
I still got home from the hospital 24 hours after giving birth, and I felt like a shell of a human being.
I was so in love with our baby, but I have also, in those early weeks, I have never felt so disconnected from me and my body.
And yes, there were a couple of times where when I had 10 minutes by myself and I would stand in the shower, I would cry and think, I don't know if I could do this.
I don't know if I've made a mistake because the adjustment was just that hard.
I think a lot of that, honestly, is just normal because of the insane hormone crash that you have after giving birth, because of the trauma that your body literally goes through giving birth.
You have a wound like, Size like this in your stomach, but that was a sacrifice that was so clearly worth making to me.
And it did take me about five ish months, so literally just like February, January, to even feel like Brett again.
I am blessed with such a remarkable village and I still felt awful.
And so now I want to ask you to imagine how mothers might feel if they don't have these same resources.
Their frustration makes sense.
Look at, and I'd like to actually say this in the most humanizing way possible.
A lot of women think that they like their husbands and they don't.
And once they get the baby, They realize they reproduce with a beta, unfortunately.
So, women, the same way guys, they can't really help it after they nut in a girl and they don't like her the same.
Some women, they have your kid and they just don't view you or look at you the same.
The only way you can really tell if a girl likes you is if you take away the incentives and see if she stays.
However, even if eventually when she gets what she wants, that's when the rubber meets the road and you get to see does she like you.
Unfortunately, most women don't like most men.
They might like, you know, that's just, You know, it's just life.
It's the way we're wired.
We're not meant to reproduce with most men.
And the thing is, with women, we got to shut up.
Like, sell that dream.
Look, you're in this hole.
Sell that dream to your husband and don't embarrass him on the internet.
Just like, you know, your husband doesn't need to come out and say, look, I banged hotter girls.
I probably would have preferred them.
But, you know, she was nice enough and I, you know, put her through a bunch of shit for a decade.
And now, you know, this is good enough for me.
I tried to do better and I couldn't.
They don't do that to us.
So, ladies, we got to shut up.
You know what I mean?
Doug MPA.
Guys, you'll only see how a woman really is when a want to situation turns into a have to situation.
That's why they change when you get married and when you have a kid with them because they feel like they have you now, right?
That and remember, guys, modern women have been sold this lie that.
Men have done nothing but wrong women, and men are nothing but a source of pain and anguish.
Now, you guys have a debt you have to pay to women.
A debt.
Now, first off, that's BS.
Second off, the problem with the debt is that it's completely intangible and based on feelings.
And she will really come to collect on that debt once a baby is born.
Because all she's heard is how men don't contribute to their kids' lives.
Men are going to leave.
Women have to do all this emotional labor and stuff.
She will make you pay the price, guys.
Yeah, as that kid.
From right wing girls, they really think of kids as like special and awesome, and they have this like angelic view of being a mother.
And it's actually very difficult.
And when you talk to, there's a trad wife I talk to on the regular.
And when I ask her about kids, she's like, God, it was so much fucking work.
Like, you know, it's not this, oh, it was special.
And like, you know what?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just a different way they talk about it.
She's like, Yeah, I love my kids.
But it was a lot of work.
Like it's, you know, and so the problem you get with women online a lot is they think it's going to be like a handbag in a way.
They don't realize it's completely uprooting your life, you know?
Yeah.
And here's the thing a lot of women want control in a relationship, in a marriage.
They want complete and total control, which is why, you know, all these guys have a honeydew list and they simp so much.
You can't control if a child gets sick, if a child has needs, you can't control that.
And women get pissed off and stuff.
Nothing is going to go your way all the time with a child.
Once again, the child's going to get sick.
The child's going to do all these things.
And you have to just react instead of being proactive.
And women get upset.
They get pissed.
Yeah, I agree.
So it's going to be tough for her because the other thing, too, is she's going to be surrounded by high status men.
I mean, she's in the conservative circles, right?
And she's going to be constantly comparing her husband to the men around her.
And I think her husband's losing right now based on her behavior.
Do you think that a woman like her is more likely to leave before she has a kid or after she has a kid?
After, but I don't know if she'll, I don't even know if I predicted divorce because I think if she does it, it'll be older because she's just got too much money to make on this conservative brand.
Like, she got married for her brand, right?
I don't think if she stayed as a college girl and got a normal job as an actress in LA, I don't think she would have gotten married and had a kid.
I could be wrong, right?
That's just my take on it.
So, because she kind of did what her audience wants, she became a slave to her audience.
She's kind of going to have to spend the next decade being a slave to what her audience wants.
And I can even speak like being in a similar situation.
Position, it's very difficult to like go against your audience because it's like there's a parasocial relationship.
People feel let down by you.
And I don't, I just don't, I think it's going to be like another decade or maybe.
I think she'll do a Sage Steel, in my opinion.
You know, Sage Steel is.
Yeah, yeah.
Sage Steel, what does she do?
I know the name.
Yeah.
So I like Sage Steel.
By the way, I'm somebody.
I can disconnect what you do sexually and in your marriage from who you are as a person.
Okay.
I'd like to say, and I don't think I make this clear, I don't really have a problem if women whore.
As long as they pay for it, they expect to be bailed out.
If women want to divorce their husbands, you know, I think it's better to stay together for the kids, but some women are so insufferable, maybe you need two houses.
Okay.
I don't think it's good for kids to watch a weak husband.
So I'm not stated.
I used to be like that, but I got a little older.
I saw more situations.
And I've just, there's too many like men that are just slaves to their wives.
I don't think that's good either.
Now, okay, Sage Steel.
She was with her husband for like 20 years and she was the breadwinner.
She got all of her career, got all that.
She eventually divorced him and then remarried right after.
So she got to be around the high status men for like 20 years, pick her favorite.
And then now, remarried.
Now she's got a new husband.
That's kind of what I would guess.
I could be wrong, but that's kind of what I would guess.
I'll unmute you.
I think she'll milk the marriage a little longer.
I don't know if she'll have more than one kid, I think maybe two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd say too.
She's got too much going on to, in my opinion, because that's why she didn't feel like herself, is because she's used to being the center of attention and doing all this cool stuff.
And as soon as you have a kid, you're not the center of attention anymore.
Yeah, I agree.
And that's sad because that's on the left and the right.
There's this narcissism when it comes to modern women and women on the left and the right.
I've seen articles.
Have you seen?
Articles, you know, after childbirth, what happens to the mother and the mother's needs?
And there's this picture of the woman off, off, sitting on the side of the bed, and like all the everyone's around the baby's crib.
It's like, what only modern women would say paying attention to the newborn child is taking away from me, How sad is that?
What about the dad?
You know, no one cares about the dad.
Go ahead.
It's like not more, it's women are immoral creatures, so they're always going to be immoral.
Do you know what I mean?
But it's like, it's just post, not clarity.
It's literally like the same feeling I'm sure you in your life have banged a girl and realized after that you didn't like her.
And it was no, like I try to humanize women to a way.
It was of no fault of your own before you really thought you liked her.
But after you can't help how you feel, right?
And you were just like, oof, I never want to see you again.
Women get that when they have children.
So, when they're talking about all the hormones or whatever, sometimes it's that our generation doesn't know how to do anything.
So, they're completely unprepared of keeping a kid on a schedule and don't listen to their husbands.
And, two, it's post not clarity.
Well, look at what Big Mike said about Obama in her books.
She said that after.
10 years, for 10 years after they had their first child, she hated her husband.
She wrote that in a book.
Yeah, it's a crazy Michelle Obama head.
But hold on, actually, I want to write the because alpha and beta is, hold on, hold on.
It's not just like leading the world.
Hold on.
It's alpha, being hot, sexual prowess, game, et cetera.
Beta is loyalty and parental investment.
Beta is not bad.
You just can't lead with it.
So it's usually guys that lead with.
That's why when you say to women, Um, I'm looking for like a relationship that's leading with beta, unfortunately, not like signals to women, beta.
So, a lot of times, that's like why, um, like they're kind of making fun of Ben Shapiro when he was like, Oh, I told my wife I wanted to marry her a month in.
It's like, Oh, no, yeah, or those guys that, Oh, yeah, um, I proposed to her like four times before she said yes.
It's like, Geez, oh, yeah, so gross, um.
But yeah.
Anyways, e girls, keep doing your thing.
Keep going.
I don't wish you to stop your shows.
I don't.
Because otherwise, I'd be unemployed.
And we like being employed, don't we, Doug MPA?
Yes, we do.
If anything, talk about your relationship more.
Yes.
Post it all over.
Live stream it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to see some IRL streams where these freaking e girls are.
Are just filming their lives 247 like freaking these young people.
In fact, that might be the next step.
You might see conservative influencer IRLers who all they do is just film their trad life 247.
Yeah.
So here you see like women, they don't tend to act up as much when they're with like guys that are more alpha.
Are you sharing your screen?
Yeah, I will.
Hold on.
I'll make it small.
They don't tend to act up as much when they're with guys that are more alpha because they can't.
He'll leave or cheat or some bullshit.
But yeah, it's like usually women use betas for marketing.
Like, yeah.
Going to be your marketing for Instagram, anyways.
Um, like a lot of times, that's why I didn't love Kevin Samuel's six feet, six feet.
Like, I didn't like the way he qualified men on his show because, really, to women, we view men as like I would say that's the most accurate way to put it is alpha and beta, and that's not really something that you can measure with money.
Um, and the same guy can be alpha to one girl and beta to another because you date a black woman, it's like you'll never be alpha to that bitch.
That's the truth.
He's dated a drug dealer, you know.
You get a Becky, you can beat her once.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I still think that the six foot tall, six figures, and six, you know, the six pack thing is still valid only because, you know, it's about getting a chance with women.
You know, like that's one of the bases of like the whole looks maxing thing, like six foot tall.
Six pack focuses on two of those.
Like for you to have a decent chance with it, one here's the thing it's about minimizing risks and maximizing opportunity, right?
If you have the 666, you're going to have better opportunities and mitigation of risk because women, like women want this.
Oh, this is since the 80s that this has been a thing and it's still around.
So there's some legitimacy to the six foot tall.
I mean, yes, there's some, right?
And I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
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Thing, but that's just not really how women think.
It's either we meet guys that make us feel it or they don't.
And if we make a guy, if we meet a guy that makes us like feel a certain way, then we don't really care about the 666.
That's why, like, I mean, I'm sure you've seen a beautiful woman going crazy over a loser, right?
And to everyone, it's like, what the fuck?
But yeah, but but he usually has a six foot, like, you even that loser probably has he's six foot tall and probably has a six pack.
You can't deny that women will go for a guy who's six foot tall over a guy who's five seven.
You can't deny that, like, a woman will go for a guy who has more money than less.
And you can't deny that a woman will go for a guy that is in good shape over a guy that is not in shape, right?
But I don't think that women generally pick, like, just out of if you have like five dates, I don't think women generally pick the most attractive guy that they could get.
Like, it's usually some sort of dominance, in my opinion.
Like, it's sort of, I mean, this is just me, but like, I don't like because I've met guys that are like they have all the sixes, but they're just like too feminine.
And so, like, women don't like them.
So, I don't know.
Like, I understand where you're going with it, but it's just for me, it just doesn't really quantify how women think, you know?
Okay.
This isn't pregnant because this isn't.
There isn't because single mom gets pregnant by bums.
Does AJ want to weigh in?
He can come in if he wants.
Yeah.
Bring him in.
I'll leave the link.
You can send it.
Um, guys, like the video, subscribe if you haven't already.
Um, give me one second, and uh, yeah, I don't know how to put it, I'm trying to explain it, but it's like the guy will be fat, a loser, etc. etc.
At the same time, I need to maybe articulate this better.
I don't want to discount looks, I really don't, but it just I don't know.
It's something about like a certain attitude of guys.
And that's kind of what women like to test for.
It's like, did he pass the shit tests?
One second.
Good Lord.
Yeah.
If he doesn't like confidence, yeah.
Yeah.
I still think that the six foot tall, six back, I mean, it's just been around for too long.
For it to not be valid anymore.
Well, because women say it, but it's like taking what women say seriously.
Like, women would go on the show and say they want a millionaire.
Like, I mean, how much?
Okay, we know who Denalva's dating.
That's true.
Like, she set all those high standards, right, that she had.
And then, you know, we see who she actually.
And nothing, I like both of them, but it's just like it's not what she said.
Do you know what I mean?
Yep.
Makes sense to me.
Yeah.
One second.
One second.
Make makeup illegal.
So, okay.
So, you think that dominance is the deciding factor?
What is the number one way that men exhibit this dominance thing?
Oh my God, it's so difficult to say.
The PUAs can break it down.
If we had Jesse on here, he could break it down.
But it's like, I don't know how to put it like, usually as a woman, you can decide if you like a guy within the first five minutes.
Cause there's just like, I don't know, part of it's the like lower vocal tone.
Like part of it's like doing it, like passing the shit test, which you don't even know as a girl.
You don't even know you're giving him.
But hold on, my dog needs to be let out.
This went a little longer than I thought.
Carrie, for a second.
Okay.
You got it.
Yeah, go ahead.
Guys.
Yeah, I mean, so let's talk about the 666 thing.
That came up in magazines in the 80s because women always talked about that.
Women's magazines came up with the six foot tall, six figures, six back thing.
Women came up with the whole high value thing, and men had to respond.
But this 666 has been around since like 1983, 84, 85, or something like that.
And we're still talking about it, what, 40 years later?
It's crazy.
Um, trying to think.
I need to find this guy.
Fort Worth Playboy.
One of the best Playboys of all time.
He's so ugly.
Oh, there he is.
There he is.
What's going on, AJ?
What's going on, guys?
I'm not trying to take up too much time.
That's okay.
But Pearl, you basically solved this riddle months ago when you said chicks don't care about men's money until later.
Do you remember?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chicks don't care about any of this stuff until they're kind of later on.
But young chicks are just reckless, right?
They get with the most reckless, toxic dudes, you know, because if they wanted the six pack, the six feet tall or whatever, then they wouldn't be pregnant by Nug Nug and bums and all these weirdos.
You understand?
Do you think that the bums are hot?
Because Doug MPA was saying he thinks the bums are like hot.
And that's why, like, sometimes I agree to some extent.
But what do you think?
I think there's just a general toxic trait they have that makes them exciting.
There's a friend of mine that Doug and I have, and he is a bridge troll, but he gets chicks.
My whole time, he's my best friend for 25 years, and he just pulls chicks.
I don't know.
If you saw him, you'd laugh, but he has that kind of toxic trait.
I think it's also like courage.
It kind of shows courageousness.
I don't know how to put it, but you can detect it pretty soon.
Because if they have the courage to like talk to you in a certain way, it's like we love the I don't give a fuck attitude.
Yeah, yeah, I would say that, but I used to think the whole six pack, six foot, six figures thing until if that was the case, then all the single moms, all the chicks that you had on your show would be pregnant by lawyers and doctors and CEOs, but that's just not the case.
I'm trying to find this.
One of the best players of all time was this Hispanic guy who was known for just banging all of these broads, and he was so ugly, and his wife's like dying.
Words to him were like, Why was I not enough?
And it's like this hot.
She's like dying.
And she's like, Why was I not good enough?
I'm like, What?
I mean, it was a long time ago, but even still, like, and he banged her sister too.
Like, Oh my God, I got to find him.
Fort Worth Playboy always tweets him.
Where is he?
Where is he?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sustaining by it.
I just think that life, you know, opportunities with women are.
Easier to attain with the 666 thing.
Or, how about this?
Maybe what you guys are saying is true, where, you know, when a woman is finally ready to settle down, she'll consider the 666 thing, but it's somewhere in the process, somewhere.
I think you have a better chance of being the guy that smashes on the first date if you're the 666, right?
But, you know, I just think that there's that reckless, toxic, all the same traits that make you the hero, make you the villain.
And these dunderheaded chicks are too dumb to tell the difference between the hero and the villain.
But they'll let both shoot up the club and get pregnant, you know?
So.
Yeah.
I'm trying to find it.
Where is this guy?
God, I couldn't even believe it when I saw it.
Like, let me just Google biggest playboys of all time.
Like, how tall is Leonardo DiCaprio?
He's like 6'2.
Why is he that tall?
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought he was short, no?
Oh, no, he's six foot tall.
Oh, okay, six.
So 5'10.
But you know what?
In Hollywood, most people are short.
Remember, Sylvester Stallone is 5'6, 5'7.
Rob De Niro is like 5'5.
I was just thinking, like right now, Leonardo DiCaprio, I don't think he's that good looking now, but like the women he's speaking to probably could get with hotter guys.
Like, because he's talking to nines and tens of the world.
So, if a girl goes on a date with like five men, I don't think most of the time women just pick the best looking guy.
Okay, wait.
So, Leonardo DiCaprio is 51 years old, right?
For a 51 year old guy, no homo, but he's a good looking guy for being 51 years old.
Correct.
But I'm saying that the women he's talking to have the option for professional athletes, profession.
Like, the women that can get on the yacht can get on any yacht.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, why would you not be able to get on another yacht?
The thing about it is, it's about what kind of company you keep, though.
You know, like, do you want to hang out in the spots where Leonardo DiCaprio takes you, or do you want to hang out in the spots where some football player takes you?
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, Leonardo DiCaprio is in a whole different space.
Or think about this.
Let's say you break up.
Would you rather be a 22 year old who was in a three year relationship and broke up with?
NFL player or Leonardo DiCaprio?
Do you think that Russell Brand is attractive?
No.
He's one of the biggest playboys.
He's up here.
He's like, yeah, Russell Brand is listed.
Which actually makes sense.
He's such a flirt, though, it makes him attractive.
Because he's a very good flirt.
I've seen him in.
Hold on, let me show you.
Russell Brand gets women the same reason why.
Who's the guy that was with Kim Kardashian for a little bit?
Pete Davidson.
They get women the same way.
A lot of these women, they go through all these serious relationships, and then they want a guy who's funny and lighthearted and stuff.
No, I think it's here.
Well, maybe that too, but I think he's just a good flirt, like me.
We'll analyze his game.
Russell Brand picking up women.
Black women, incredible.
A cartoon.
Someone's about to get seduced.
Not me.
Maybe me.
I'm a very good girl.
Are you good?
I don't think God would give you that body and then give you sort of morality.
Are you married?
No.
Are you in a sexual relationship?
No.
Then there's hope.
I can't fight your.
I mean, that's like clever.
You know, he's like quick.
The answer?
Yeah, but you know.
It's good that I've got both your hands.
Is it getting on your nerves?
No, it's cold.
I enjoy it.
I feel like he has the balls to do that.
Most guys don't.
I mean, I'm in trouble later, right?
But if that were like an attractive woman of any other race except for a black woman, I would give him credit for this.
But come on now, huh?
I know, but there's more here.
He got.
Yes.
You have to move out of your chair and.
Catherine is welcome to see you.
No, she's not.
No, don't even say for the queen.
We're going to do an interview on the queen.
For the queen.
Gee, gee.
You wonder why Russell Brandt ever got some accusations against him.
Yeah, but, you know, he's fine now.
With my sexual charisma.
Russell.
Yes.
Are you thinking about something?
Yeah, as a matter of fact, I was thinking about something.
Yeah, but, like, it's not.
I understand there's consequences, but it's not, like, attractive to girls to, like, Oh, you're afraid to like get accused, even though it's valid, right?
But it's like we can't help what we're attracted to, so it's like it's attractive that he has the balls to like be that touchy, guys.
Don't do that in real life, hey?
Unless you got the game to do it, you know.
I think, as you know, I've announced it, I find Catherine very attractive.
Then, once you said exchange, you see that that's like, like that's almost like because he's just going out and saying it.
And that's kind of what some of the P ways like.
There's one where they just go out and do it, and some of the girls respond pretty well.
Numbers I thought things I'd like to exchange with her, and like it's his vocal tone too because he's got like a his voice isn't shaking, he's just saying it like confidently.
It's how I'd read it.
Maybe you guys have a different read, that's just how I'd read it.
AJ, you got anything or no?
Yeah, just so he's very whimsical, right?
So he's half joking, half serious, so it's disarming.
You understand?
And he has charisma, right?
But here's the thing.
You look at this guy, and then who was the other guy you guys were talking about?
Russell Brand, and then someone else that has a.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
No, no.
But how does Destiny pull chicks?
That's what I don't get.
Because he has Russell Brand's tism, but none of his.
You understand?
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Well, yeah.
He pulls chicks because he's also quick.
Like, there's something about guys that just like.
Are very socially sharp, I could say.
Not like, I mean, I wouldn't, I don't find him attractive.
But, like, I could say that's probably why he gets women because he doesn't care.
Like, he'll be rude to them.
He does not care.
And there's something attractive about guys that don't care.
Like, they get in trouble, right?
But they also get bitches.
So, that's true.
Got a jet.
There's nothing like, oh, see ya.
There's like nothing more unattractive than when we smell like fear in you, you know?
Even if it's valid, like it's just sorry, fellas.
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
I always wonder how many, how much opportunity I've let go by because I've tried to keep myself out of positions of being falsely accused.
And it's probably a lot, but let me tell you, I just can't, like, you know, I was just raised to be averse because of the consequences, man.
Like, I've seen some guys get falsely accused and their life is ruined.
You know, all these guys asleep with a bunch of women, you're going to meet the wrong one one day.
It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
Yeah, no, I know.
It's how do I put it?
It's not, um, life's about trade offs, right?
You can't have everything, like, it's just, um, but it's like there's not morality in women's attraction, you know?
There's not like we can't help what we're attracted to.
Unfortunately, um, Russell Brand, he's numbers, numbers, just random numbers.
He likes numbers, he's other than numbers.
You realize that there is, I saw one interview where he got the interviewer to kiss him.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I don't know if it's on this playlist, but.
No way of tricking anybody into doing things that they don't want to do that can be anything but negative for both parties involved.
So, what is your secret?
My secret is that I know that within you there is a limitless divine beauty, and within me as well.
And if I connect with that, then we'll be okay.
And you as well.
And Chris.
I'll give it.
He's good for everybody.
Everybody is good for myself.
Now, Russ, I'm nervous to ask this, but you did say at the start of the year that you were considering.
Attempting celibacy is that something that you have continued with?
What time do you finish work?
Do you see that's like a bold answer?
And it's like you wouldn't think it like it's like a pattern interrupt, like you wouldn't, it's like answering the question in a different way.
So it's funny.
Um, but yeah, now he also got a false accusation, so you're not wrong either, you know.
But uh, yeah, and he has the money and the legal team to battle a false accusation.
I'm telling you guys.
Don't hit on women at work.
Don't hit women at the gym.
Just don't approach women at work.
Don't approach women at the gym.
Just don't do it, guys.
You're better off.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's all I got for today.
That was fun, though, having Dinesh on or Denise on.
Yeah.
Dinesh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
He's, you know, that was a really good conversation.