Pearly Things host critiques "trad women" like Isabella Brown and Britt Hugum, arguing they prioritize social status over faith through media careers and explicit intimacy advice. The discussion exposes perceived hypocrisy in advocating monogamy while engaging in behaviors undermining it, suggesting marriages often lack genuine desire due to women's focus on high-status images. Ultimately, the episode contends that modern societal narratives force both genders into unnatural roles, creating a cycle where authentic connection is sacrificed for superficial validation and competitive standing. [Automatically generated summary]
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Today, we're going to talk about how trad women care about status, not Jesus.
And really, a lot of these conservative e-girls have really got me thinking about what is really important to them.
Okay, so we got so we got Isabella Brown, who recently got married and she works for the Daily Wire.
She's a conservative commentator.
Now, again, most women care about looking conservative and not being conservative.
And you can tell this based on their actions, where they wear the Jesus cross, they talk about how they love God, da-da-da-da-da, traditional values.
But whenever it comes to doing anything conservative, like not being on social media or watching their children instead of working or not having a side business, the conservative women never want to put it away.
Now, this is not to judge them, as obviously YouTube is the coolest career ever, but it's to observe that there's no such thing as a conservative woman.
And I've been saying this for years.
No women are conservative in 2026 because all of them have the opportunity to be a boss babe.
Now, there was a woman named Britt Hugum.
I think she blocked me.
Cannot imagine why.
And she founded Eevee magazine.
Now, yeah, see, I'm blocked.
Eevee magazine is a conservative magazine.
And what it wanted to do is it wanted to take the name of conservatism without actually being conservative, right?
It's easier to just say you're conservative than be it, right?
I mean, however, when you look at these women's life choices and even the way they present themselves, they always have a pound of makeup on and their choices are very modern.
Usually it's delayed marriage.
None of them are married at 21 or 22 or even 20 when you think about it.
And if they get married, generally kids are delayed.
And generally speaking, it's very obvious based on their choices that their brand is more important than their marriage because they overshare on the internet.
For example, Brett Cooper is one who claimed to be conservative.
However, whenever she had a kid, she does not value her family's privacy.
A conservative woman values the privacy of her family because she cares about the well-being of the family above her.
Brett Cooper is basically live streaming her family's existence, showing herself doing chores and all the quote-unquote trad stuff.
Now, again, this is not to judge or even to say that the content is necessarily bad, but I think it's important to know when you're being manipulated.
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Now, Evie put this girl in a whatever the hell this is, the sexy thing.
And the intent is sexual is to, you know, show, to make men lust, right?
And they put this beautiful girl on the cover half naked.
And, you know, people come out and they say, oh, I'm not.
And they say, hey, you're using conservatism for, you know, the clout with it.
But whenever it comes to doing something conservative, you refuse to do it.
Now, this was the argument, right?
On Sunday night at Evie's Arrows party, we unveiled the next cover of our print edition in front of the press and hundreds of guests.
It's the first of many themed issues, and it's the most ambitious thing we've ever produced.
You know what's crazy?
Women, it's like the most ambitious thing we've ever done is getting naked.
For years, a recurring plea has shown up in our DMs, emails, and service response, survey responses.
Young married asking us for real detailed guidance about sex.
A reader once wrote to us and said, Progressives own sex positivity, but abandoned marriage and monogamy a long time ago.
Conservatives own marriage, but can't bring themselves to be sex positive.
That stuck with us because it's true, and it perfectly describes the gap millions of women are living in.
Many young women, especially from the traditional or religious families, have come into womanhood without learning anything about sex.
They saved themselves from marriage and then realized the culture told them to wait.
The culture that told them to wait had absolutely nothing to say about what happens after the altar.
They grew up with a negative association to intimacy, but were expected to become uninhibited the moment they said, I do.
We believe sex is one of the most important foundations of a thriving marriage.
You cannot call something sacred and refuse to take it seriously.
We talk to doctors, experts, and women who have been married for decades.
The issue is specific on purpose because vague advice is the same as no advice.
These are beautiful hand-drawn illustrations for the explicit content and tasteful photography for the implicit content.
Some of you will read this and be surprised.
In truth, this is the most EV thing we've done.
We've always said we want to celebrate femininity and help marriages by giving women real advice that makes their lives better.
Your sex life with your husband is arguably the most important part of your marriage.
You asked for guidance and we listened.
You most likely won't find a hookup culture propaganda in these pages.
No explore more partners, no decoupling sex from commitment.
We're giving you arguably the most complete, thoughtful, and beautiful guide on sex and intimacy ever put into print.
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Now, remember, this is giving women guidance from either other women, right?
Either other women, which is not traditional in the slightest.
If you're traditional, you get guidance from men, not women.
Women cannot guide women.
It is not in our nature.
Whenever we guide women, we guide women into whoredom in some way.
And you could see this with this quote-unquote conservative magazine.
And, you know, then they always come out and they say, well, I'm not conservative.
Well, it's like, okay, are you, you know, I hate women and I die on that hill, right?
I mean, that's just, that's my brand, you know, not a fan of the women.
You know, we're just kind of evil.
And, but you can't, you know, grift and make the money off of being religious and conservative and then complain when your audience is like, hey, you're not doing it.
And then say, well, I'm not that.
It's like, it's like the circle of gaslighting and women never stop.
So, anyways, here we go.
We got some quotes from Isabelle Brown.
Did she quit her career to raise her kids?
Never.
Not criticizing her for that.
I don't know why Daily Wire keeps hiring women.
It's really not in their best interest after Brett Cooper crashed out on them and Candace Owens crashed out on them, but sure, give another woman power.
Sex is really only presented to Gen Z women right now as something empowering if you are part of this sexual liberation movement.
You're sleeping with as many people as possible.
You're sleeping with multiple partners at the exact same time.
You're meeting people from a dating app and you meet them that night and you end up having sex that night.
Then you use abortion as a form of birth control.
And that's how you are an empowered, liberated woman on par with or equal to men in 2026.
And yet that's not where our culture is at because young women overwhelmingly want to get married.
They want this traditional structure.
Yeah.
So again, here, this is a get out of jail free card, right?
A get out of jail free card.
Maybe I'll go to her channel and watch the whole thing.
It's a get out of jail free card because, again, if we wanted to get married, we would, but we don't want it as much as we originally thought.
I'm really tired of the excuses from women, right?
I think the hardest thing to admit is something to yourself.
And women do not want to get married because if we did, then we would be getting married.
There's too many resources attributed to helping women get married.
I mean, you can really filter out men by race, income, height on these dating apps and have a million matches in a year, but we just choose not to.
So, again, we got to stop with the excuses for women.
When women want to be whores, women go to the ends of the earth to be whores.
When women want to be married, we go to the ends of the earth to get married.
They're deleting their dating apps and moss right now.
They're desperate for I think that's, you know, I think dating apps are great for women, if I'm being honest.
I mean, you can schedule a date whenever for a long-term sense of connection, and yet the advice just isn't out there for girls that don't have a big sister.
But see, traditional advice would be like, well, what did your husband say?
How did your husband say to throw it back?
Did you ask her about it?
I was a bus friend to talk to about some of this stuff.
I just find even in my spheres of influence with my friends and my extended family, people don't talk about sex with their friends anymore.
It's not something that you say cap, Conservative women love talking about sex.
They giggle like little girls.
This is something that I'm going through with my husband.
And what do you guys think?
Or do you have any advice for my wedding night or any of these things?
So everybody is turning to the cosmos or the vogues of the world telling you to cheat on your boyfriend or your husband.
So now that's another get out of jail free card.
Well, the family, you know, it's like there's no accountability here.
Can you bring up a topic?
I mean, you could ask your mother, how do you Gluck Luck 9000?
How do you, you know, where is the accountability?
So now, because there's women aren't demanding Christian marriage advice, it's not there.
Now it's, it's our fault.
Like now it's the society's fault for the content we demanded, which is Gluck Luck 9000, call her daddy.
To use things around the house as sex toys.
That was a recent cosmopolitan article to match as much as possible.
I mean, things that are very taboo to say, but also.
And remind, remember, the men aren't really talking about this.
Like, well, it's the women, the quote-unquote conservative women saying, we need a sex talk.
The conservative men are like, yeah, we're good.
We'll talk about that privately.
But women, we just have this tendency to make everything private public.
And it just, let's see, let's watch this.
We'll watch this.
In the past, men would just like go talk to different women and see like which one they could get.
But now I think men are very uncomfortable talking to women.
And then all those stories that trend are like the only fan.
That has people's heads exploding all over the internet about.
So this is another thing.
They catastrophize it.
They say, oh, you guys are, your heads are exploding.
When anyone has a valid observation, they always say, you're so angry.
And it's like, well, this is just a valid observation that I don't know if you're as traditional as you say.
I don't know if this magazine is a traditional thing.
What's appropriate to give intimacy advice for married and even married Christian women?
A ton of you said, you're never supposed to talk about this ever.
How dare you even remotely bring this into the public square?
But I think this is a wildly important conversation.
Virtually no one is.
Of course you do.
Of course you do.
I've heard rumors about you, Isabel of all the e-girls, right?
Everyone's got to throw it back with somebody.
Having out there to tell young married families you should enjoy having sex with your spouse.
Take it from an old married lady, okay?
It is wildly.
And this is the thing.
As soon as they get married, immediately they use that status to tell other people what to do.
And they say, This is, I have authority, I'm married.
Well, again, I think at one point in my lifetime, I have not seen a difference between married women and unmarried women.
The only difference is married women care more about status.
Important.
Brittany Hugo Boom, the founder of EV Magazine, is joining us today on the Isabel Brown Show to talk about why this issue is coming out and what was the driving force behind it.
Can't wait for you guys to hear what she has to say.
Brittany, I am so excited to have you on set with us today to talk about some pretty controversial news coming out of EV magazine, but something I think is so desperately needed in our culture, and that is your guys' up and coming sex issue of the magazine.
But you and I have been friends for a long time.
You hear like the uptick in our voice.
They love talking about sex.
It's like the whores are just trying to get out.
They want to get out so bad.
They're like, oh, what a whore.
Oh, what a whore.
So before we get into the sex issue, can you tell us what inspired you to start EV magazine in the first place?
Oh my gosh.
So I started EV.
I mean, you probably know, you probably were like an OG reader, but we started back in 2019.
And I was living in Los Angeles at the time.
Status Over Virtue in Men00:13:25
And during that time, there was like, it was a super progressive, kind of radical.
You had like Refinery 29 and Jezebel, and it was very like man-hating, but also like hating women's nature in general.
It became kind of this fourth wave feminism thing.
And it's funny now when I talk to journalists, they tell me they're like, oh, I'm a second-wave feminist or I'm a third wave feminist.
And these are all for mainstream publications.
All women are feminists because even the fact that like you guys are on the internet, that's feminism.
You are marketing.
So any man in society can slide into your DMs.
And we're all just supposed to believe that you would never do that.
It's like, well, well, I think it's like very fascinating, but.
But at the time, there was just no, I think that they were able to make bad things look aesthetically beautiful.
And there was really nobody making virtue and like positive things like marriage and kids and anything look aesthetically pleasing.
And now you have like, obviously, Ballerina Farm and Nabella and even Justin and Haley Bieber.
And you have all these like good examples of it looking appealing to be married.
But at the time, there really wasn't.
So we wanted to come in and do that.
And we kind of had this, because we lived in LA, a lot of my friends were like the girls who would shop at Erwan and they wouldn't drink out of plastic because of microplastics.
And they were very like, they loved God, but they were like, I don't know.
It was just like a, this type of girl that just wasn't catered to at all.
It was very maha before it was a thing.
So we were like, yeah, it was like kind of the crunchy liberal, the Bernie girls, right?
Like they were just, they just didn't want to be part of the system.
And I think like in the past, like, unfortunately, when I've talked to like the mainstream media, they thought Republicans were very like uncool or like Puritan or whatever.
And then obviously with the election in 2016, the winner is like this New York Democrat with a supermodel wife who lives in a Golden Palace.
So it's like, nobody was wearing hats for George Bush, you know?
Like, so I think that making good things look appealing and sexy and mainstream is just an objective good because then everyone wants to be like that.
Amen.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So again, listen to how stupid she is.
And it's not her fault.
We're all kind of dumb as women.
Like we just aren't that we are not the smartest tools in the shed.
We're gonna, we're gonna play it back, play it back.
Like in the past, like, unfortunately, when I've talked to like the mainstream media, they thought Republicans were very like uncool or like Puritan or whatever.
And then obviously with the election in 2016, the winner is like this New York Democrat with the supermodel wife who lives in a golden palace.
So it's like, nobody was wearing hats for George Bush, you know?
Like, so I think that making good things look appealing and sexy and mainstream is just an objective good because then everyone wants to be like that.
Yeah.
So again, women, maybe for women, right?
Women go on trends.
But like, as I said, this is women vying for status.
I want to be high status.
And these are high status women.
High status women, they start off their life as high status.
Men have to work to be high status.
There is the occasional very good looking man or inherited money guy that enters into high status society.
But most men are never, some men never get into high status society.
But men don't care about status.
Women do.
And when you really pay attention, conservative women care about high status and money.
That is what they care about.
Amen.
Oh my gosh.
And I have loved every edition that you guys have put out.
I've written a few articles back in the day.
I sure do.
Actually, a few things.
Jobs with status are like CEOs, corporate America, wives are higher status than unmarried women.
Jobs without status, blue collar and whores.
And so what happens is the reason conservative women defend whores is they don't want to lose their status.
What they're trying to do is make low status decisions in order to stay in the high status class, because if they're too much of whores, they enter in the low status class.
Now, remember, being low status isn't necessarily a bad thing.
In fact, some would say it's a good thing.
My favorite times to go out is not when I dress to the nines and go to a nice event.
I've been to a few nice events in my life, but it's almost more fun when you go to a dive bar when nobody's got anything to lose and nobody cares about status.
But it's the reason they're wearing heavy makeup.
They have plastic surgery.
They have Botox.
They're trying to stay in with the beautiful women and the high status society.
Yeah.
But how come men get in face lift surgeries?
Well, yeah, because men enter high status.
Sometimes they can date a high status woman.
That gets them into high status.
Other times they can, they have a good amount of money.
And other times it's good looking.
And recently with the advent of social media, status is more and more and more based on looks.
Now, status can come with money, but oftentimes it doesn't.
It's why so many professions that are high status, a lot of times don't make a lot of money.
So status jobs that don't have money, entertainers, streamers, and musicians.
Remember, this is contextual, but women take off their panties for like entertainers, right?
And a lot of times a lot of the boy bands from the early 2000s, women were getting naked for were in bad business contracts and they're going broke, right?
Status does not always equate to money, influence, or power.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Jobs without status would be blue collar, whores, UPS driver could maybe be blue collar.
And again, sometimes the no status or the low status jobs are more important than the high status jobs.
Like, for example, a WNBA player is going to get to go to all the events, meet a lot of important people, but her job is unimportant, non-useful, but she has high status because we're in an inflated society and it's the women's world.
Now, in the man's world, status would be awarded based on competence, but we're in the woman's world, which in essence is the devil's world.
And women care about looking cool.
They care about looking like a good mother.
If they're right wing, looking like they're conservative.
If they're left wing, they care about looking like they care about humanitarian causes like BLM, you know, Gaza, whatever the latest trend is.
So again, things women care about is looking cool.
Things men care about is their ROI on their time, their family, the money in the bank.
Men just care about different things.
However, men have to enter a lot of times into the woman's high status games in order to get Poonanny.
Because if you really pay attention, the men getting the most attractive women in society, it's the famous men, the streamers.
I mean, like Neon is banging like nines and tens.
Status isn't useless to men.
They can get Poonanny, but again, they're like, at what cost?
Evie magazine, and it's true.
You guys were covering Maha way before it was a movement, but just generally like putting your health first and being more natural and organic and leaning into your natural beauty.
All of those things were so important.
Reviving the importance of relationships, actual legitimate fashion, and not the androgynous brown paper bags we often see at New York Fashion Week these days.
There's a sense of reviving beauty, and I've always really appreciated that about you and your family's mission because beauty does matter, objectively speaking.
I think one of our first articles.
Yeah, so they're going to say beauty matters.
It does matter to be high status.
It is important to women.
Now, remember when you think of someone virtuous, there's a reason that we don't necessarily view women.
Like the reason Candace Owens kind of, and a lot of conservative women rub me the wrong way, is because they don't care about virtue.
They very obviously care about status.
They wear very, you know, put together outfits.
They put on a pound of makeup.
It's very obvious what is important to those women based on.
And again, this is not to say that you can't be virtuous and also high status.
But generally, if you're a mother, you kind of have to, you know, make a choice.
Do I want to spend two hours every day pounding on makeup or do I want to watch my kids?
So it rubs us the wrong way because they're almost using, it's almost like they're using low status things for marketing, you know.
They're using, you know, the wife of, I should say, a housewife is maybe high status.
Like the wife of a high status man is high status, but the wife of a low status man is low status.
But it's like they're taking, it's almost like they're making money off of low status women's lifestyle.
And it's very obvious by their life decisions, it's not what they are.
This was the war on beauty back in 2019.
And it is like there was kind of this war on beauty, which now sounds weird to say in 2026, because everyone's kind of reverted to kind of what Evie's been doing.
But at the time, you just never really saw that.
Like it was very like obesity is healthy on the cover of Cosmo and all these things that journalists agreed with me with in person, but then you know, they had to write that I was extreme or whatever.
So I'm like, guys, like it was interesting living in LA and knowing that these journalists were skinny and drinking their green juices and go with the Barry's boot camp at 5 a.m.
And then they would go write about how amazing it is, like body positive to be huge.
And I'm like, okay, let's at least like give people honest advice.
So that was like one of the main things.
But you got to think about it.
If you're deciding what advice is going out, that's why I really try to lean on accuracy because I'm a woman.
I mean, if I'm on my period, I'm going to give you the worst advice ever.
So if you're really patriarchal, which is conservative, right?
Then you cannot dictate what advice is being given.
You know, why we started Evie.
Well, you're getting a little bit of backlash now all over again.
Not from the typical crowd that we often expect from hating on the more trad conservative or even.
And remember, because Isabella, whatever this girl's name is, cares about status too.
She's got to run cover for this other girl because if it comes out, the real intentions here, which is status, money, not Jesus or traditionalism or marriage, then you know they look bad.
And women will do anything to not look bad.
They'll do anything.
The controversy of your guys' beautiful milkmaid dresses that you made a few years ago.
Now there's a whole lot of people on the right that are upset with Evie magazine for introducing this idea of the sex issue of the magazine.
So be putting on a ton of makeup to look good for the world.
Many women make themselves look worse for their husbands.
Yeah.
You know, if they're traditional, the full like glam look is going to be in the morning for their husband.
Not going to be later.
So I covered this a little bit on my show already, but for those who may not understand why you guys decided to launch this and the statement that you put out on social media, what was the impetus behind wanting to put out a sex advice and intimacy advice magazine for Christian married women?
You know, there is this really great girl on Substack, and she probably shouldn't even know that I read her.
She's a liberal, and my friend sent me the piece and she really understands what we're doing in a way that I feel like the right sometimes does not.
Because in the beginning, we were the first to talk about the hormonal birth control pill, which was at the time when I lived in LA, my friends trained the Victoria Secret Girls and they were all getting off the pills.
So all the liberal girls were getting off the pill.
So we started writing about it.
We talked to Dr. Derling Bright and all these doctors, and it was a liberal thing, but because Evie wrote about it, it's conservative.
And then because we launched a sundress, the Washington Post did a cover, is the sundress political?
And it's like, I feel like they just well, the sundress, it's not necessarily political, but low-status women aren't really in that kind of sundress.
They actually sent me one.
They're probably salty.
I'm a hater because they did send me a sundress, but I'm sorry, I got a hate regardless.
It's like a core set.
It's not pragmatic, like low-status.
Remember, the higher status in history, the woman, the less useful and pragmatic her outfits were.
When they're low status, they're very useful.
So a corset sundress is not what a housewife is wearing that's on her feet all day.
You know, the housewife that I know, and I would say she was higher status than a lot of housewives, but she was more like a farmer's wife, not a farmer, but they had horses.
Anyways, I mean, she was always in like athletic clothes because she was running around all over the place.
She wasn't in 1950s gear.
I mean, that's that's like performative, right?
What do I think about the fan feministic power dynamic in churches and how they lead to cliques and the exclusion of certain people, particularly the poorer and less attractive people?
Um, can you elaborate on that a little bit?
I'll tell you my initial thoughts, but yeah, like again, women have taken over churches.
So, as long as women hold the power in the churches, it's just going to be the same.
It's going to be women and high-status men, probably good-looking men that rise up in those churches and not necessarily the most virtuous.
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That's why they do the rags to riches.
I was a whore to Jesus woman pipeline because you know, it makes good money.
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Pilates is like an extremist thing to do.
So, I feel like they just take whatever Evie says and like turn it into a political thing.
And I think it kind of makes the liberals also mad because they're like, What's going on?
But when it comes to sex, for years, you either had like the you know, hook up with whoever, it's super empowering, and then you had like the right side where they're like, Oh, don't talk about sex unless it's trauma.
Like, this was actually told to me by someone who is big on the right.
They're like, You're not allowed to talk about sex unless it's sexual trauma.
Someone actually told you one of the big uh, I'm not gonna say which magazine, but it was a big conservative magazine that's been around for like 30 years, but no one really knows about it.
Um, but they're like, You can't talk about it, and it's like, okay, marriage back in the day, men wanted to get married probably because they wanted to have sex and they're also in love.
And you couldn't get that access unless you were married.
So, when the left took over and, you know, have sex with whoever it's casual, all these things, then it's like, well, what's how do you how do you like, what's the point of getting married aside from like loving someone?
But the more you have sex with different people, the harder it is to like form a bond.
So, it's like, why do the right give up one of the most appealing parts of marriage to the left?
And then it's like, you have the right and it's like, oh, well, don't talk about it.
Don't say anything.
And it's like, you know, it's, it's great.
Like, if you're in a bad mood and you're married and you have sex, like, I don't want to talk about it.
So now we got to think about it.
Do you guys want your wife going on a podcast and talking about you guys' sex life?
So much, even, but it's like there was really nowhere for these women to go.
But it's, it makes your kids happy to see your parents in love.
Like, that's so important.
It makes your stress lower.
It's just so good for you.
And it's like, they, it's all about the context, in my opinion.
Like, it's obviously a good thing to have sex, hence why it like was created.
But it's been turned into like this bad, dangerous, like, taboo thing you can't do unless you do it with random people.
I don't know.
It's just such a bizarre take.
Back to it with Brittany.
Like, imagine this is your mother.
These women have no regard for anybody but themselves.
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No, you're right.
This dichotomy and culture is so jarring, I think.
And it's difficult for the right to figure out how to talk about this because we have seeded all of the ground to the left on this issue.
Sex is really only presented to Gen Z women right now as something empowering if you are part of this sexual liberation movement.
You're sleeping.
Please stop.
Now, again, it's presented to Gen Z women, blah, blah, blah.
The reason they say that, oh, it's presented as bad is because they want to give their opinion.
Okay.
So they want to hold influence over the conversation.
So they want to dictate the way we should have the conversation about sex.
Google exists.
There's plenty of Christian perspectives you can Google.
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Like there's so many.
Like, can we just stop pretending?
It sucks for the guys that women have created this competitive system and they go for the same five guys between 100 of them and they determine what women can get with a certain man.
I mean, it sucks, but you just got to play the game.
Do you either got to opt out or play the game?
That's it.
You got to get into a place where you can be high status or, you know, exit the game.
With as many people as possible.
You're sleeping with multiple partners at the exact same time.
You're meeting people from a dating app and you meet them that night and you end up having sex that night.
Then you use abortion as a form of birth control.
Hey, that can be the start of love.
Let's stop.
Let's stop pretending that sex on the first night cannot lead to love.
If anything, it's the best type of love because the woman is not withholding sex.
Men got to stop punishing women for giving up sex on the first night.
It's like, why would you like you're going to see over time if she does that often based on if she stays and her behavior, right?
But it would always be like incredible to me where it's like, okay, you're going to punish a woman for sleep.
You want women to withhold sex from you?
Go passport.
Yeah, you can go to another country where you're higher status, but it's really not a guarantee because women are understanding their power level.
And it's really, it's caused by the imbalance in attraction.
Men find like half of women attractive, where women only find like 5% of men attractive.
So all of these status games are letting less and less men in the market and more and more women can enter the market, especially with the advent of plastic surgery, keeping women looking attractive longer.
I know a lot of people say that it doesn't work, but come on, you guys had all hit Melania Trump and that woman's face is frozen.
They have plastic surgeries because they do work.
However, they can be taken too far, but some are effective.
Otherwise, there wouldn't be billions of dollars of money into that.
Well, yeah, I mean, they can't afford the plastic surgery by going into the workforce, right?
That's how you are an empowered, liberated woman.
Even this girl, I guess, a little lip phone.
Woman on par with or equal to men in 2026.
And yet that's not where our culture is at because young women overwhelmingly.
Yeah, if they didn't have subsidized jobs to keep them subsidized to keep them single on male taxes and quotas to keep them hired, most men would be higher status than most women.
Yes, I completely agree with you because remember, this is the woman's world.
That's completely true.
Maybe I didn't, I probably could have articulated it better.
Yes, it's completely fake.
All the women's high status careers are fake.
Like the WNBA player, she's going to think she's too good for anybody but an NBA player.
But her status, it's fake, but she's going to get access.
Like Sophie, whatever her name, the blonde long hair, she's going to get access to NBA players.
That's just, she's in the right circle.
She's going to get access.
So is a beautiful young woman in a city, right?
They want to get married.
They want this traditional structure.
They're deleting their dating apps and moss right now.
They're desperate for a long-term sense of connection.
And yet the advice just isn't out there for girls that don't have a big sister or a best friend to talk to about some of this stuff.
I just find even in my spheres of influence with my friends and my extended family, people don't talk about sex with their friends anymore.
It's not something that you say, hey, this is something that I'm going through with my husband.
And what do you guys think?
Or do you have any advice for my wedding night or any of these things?
So everybody is turning to the cosmos or the vogues of the world telling you to cheat on your boyfriend or your husband to use things around the house as sex toys.
That was a recent cosmopolitan article to match as much as possible.
I mean, things that are very taboo to say, but also aren't now because everything is everything.
Like there is no actual standard for intimacy anymore.
Yeah.
No, you're spot on.
You took the words out of my mouth.
So Evie is trying to do something a little bit different about it.
And this is what I so appreciate about the sex issue.
You guys are trying to give specific intimacy advice for married women.
Yes.
What does that mean exactly?
It's so in the past, I feel like you either had Cosma, right?
Where it's like cheat on your spouse without getting caught.
You know, it's very like, we probably make up stories, like in all honesty, like it's just very like out there.
It's kind of like what the mainstream is doing right now with polygamy.
It's like, does anyone really want to be polygamous?
Like, you know, but I feel like they just like like to do that.
Women like to be polygamous.
I'm telling you, if we enforce monogamy tomorrow, most men would be happy.
Polygamy benefits the top, it benefits women and the top men because we get access to higher status and better jeans.
Now, again, the status today is still manufactured.
Like, is it really fair that a Pajit is banging all these nines and tens in this fake status, you know, like Neon, you see him banging these women that are way out of his league, right?
But he has manufactured status.
And that's just the, that's just the society we're in.
So unfortunately, it's in the woman's world and the fake status is still status and it still counts.
That stuff.
But it's like, I think I lost my train of people.
No, actually, what are you saying that?
This is so important.
I literally was sent from our PR team here yesterday a new Pew Research poll that just came out about things Americans view as morally acceptable or morally unacceptable.
And most things that are not great for society are considered acceptable, except cheating on your spouse.
Overwhelmingly, people still think that is a morally bad thing to do.
It is immoral.
And yet every headline out there is cheat, on your husband, cheat on your boyfriend, cheat on your wife, sleep with as many people as possible.
Have an open marriage.
Do this polygamy or polyamory thing.
It's I disagree with that because there is conservative content out there too.
So, again, they what they want to do is frame themselves as the heroes.
We need women to talk about this.
When really, I mean, we need men to talk about this, guys.
I mean, if you really need sex advice, there's literal videos of porn.
You can look up the Gluck Luck 9 that look up men's most popular porn videos that men watch and copy that.
Okay.
If you really need advice, it's crazy to me that that's presented as normal.
I think, I think it's because it's so like clickbaity.
Like, people are like, That's crazy.
And they just click on it.
But it's like it, it is like a problem with guys in their early 20s.
So, a lot of them don't want to get married.
And a lot of them are like, Oh, my friend's girlfriend cheated on me.
Like, there's like a huge cheating problem.
I don't know what it is in the early 20s where it's like men don't want to commit because they're afraid of being cheated on.
Interesting.
Yeah.
It's like very so.
You think this is more a problem of women cheating on men than the other?
I don't think so necessarily.
Um, I think maybe it's so.
Again, it is more women cheating on men, but she views low-status men as not people.
Sorry, fellas.
Don't, don't you dare don't don't shoot the messenger.
So, again, when you see people that say, Well, it's men too, it's men too.
What they mean is it's high-status men too, because the dating market is really women who are high-status and high-status men.
Low-status men tend to get the leftover.
Sometimes they get a bitch in high school because they were high-status in high school or college.
Um, but unfortunately, women just aren't lining up to date, you know, truck drivers.
Or again, occasionally, you could be high status in looks, um, but there really is a high status in a low-status society, and that just is what it is.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, don't shoot the messenger.
I just make my observation getting closer in the early 20s.
I think probably men did more overall.
I don't know the stats.
Um, I mean, it's wrong no matter who does it, but uh, yeah, it's just interesting.
It's not well, and you could even argue that this is cheating, and I'm not, I'm not that much of a stickler, YOLO, whatever.
But um, the like again, they both have open Instagram accounts.
Is that cheating?
Uh, Pearl, do you think it would be ideal to marry, have a child after she's 30 in a foreigner's country and then move her to the States due to her market value dropping?
Um, you just got to find a way to be that, you know what I mean?
I mean, that's all you got.
Um, look, it doesn't matter who the woman is, she could change later.
It's not a I look, if you want to have a kid, this is my woman advice.
This is just how I see it.
I'm not even saying I'm correct, so don't if you go and do this, just know you listen to a woman.
Um, that could be a strategy, but odds are she will still have access to more men, even as a midwoman, than you could possibly believe in America.
So, as long as she's in shape, honestly, I've seen women in their 40s still be able to bang Chad's 50s still be able to bang chads.
Now, it might be like a 70-year-old Chad, but there's always a Chad that found out that the 50-year-old women are kind of cheap or the 40-year-old women are kind of cheap.
And occasionally, they buy one of those 40 or 50-year-old women because of the traits or because she looked 9,000, whatever.
Like, I know a 70-year-old Chad that loves 50-year-old women, that's his like market.
So, there's always going to be Chads, you know, trying to steal your bitch.
And all you can really do is, you know, pick a woman.
Like, if at this point, if I was a guy, I would just knock up a crackhead because if you could get her to not do crack until like maybe chain her in the basement or something, and I don't really do that, but you know, then at least at the end of the pregnancy, she's not even going to want the kid anyway.
Like, if anything, I would find the least responsible woman possible.
I mean, I'd get a surrogate, I think, if I was a dude.
But outside of that, you might as well just get the least responsible woman possible.
The problem is, you guys are expecting these women to be wives and mothers.
And I would just expect to hire a nanny and that she's going to steal the kid.
So, if anything, if you get an irresponsible woman, you could go to court and be like, this woman is so irresponsible.
But again, sometimes they still give those bitches custody.
So, that's not even foolproof.
Even if you get like you could get the most on paper good woman and she could still cook your ass.
I mean, I know there was a guy who emailed my show who's like homeschooled his kids.
He spent over 300K.
Sorry, his wife was a homeschooled virgin, spent over 300K to get his kids back because you know, being a homeschooled virgin doesn't mean that you're not a bitch whore.
It just might come out later.
Like a lot of women, they turn 30 or 32 and they say, fuck, I didn't get to whore as much as I should.
And it comes later.
Not something I don't think the millennials really thought about a lot, but it seems to be more of a problem with like the younger Gen Z.
So that is a huge component of the intimacy advice that is out there: just don't lock yourself down in a committed, monogamous relationship.
Obviously, you're trying to counter that through this marital issue of the sex issue.
But what else is out there in terms of advice for married women that you guys are trying to tackle?
Yeah, there's really nothing.
And we get so many texts and like emails and girls that were like, I'm struggling with like vaginism, for example.
And there's nothing really.
I just, I call cap on that.
Vaginesis.
Okay.
Nothing, really.
Nothing.
None of these videos will suffice.
It just shows women will complain about anything.
They were like, I don't really know where to go.
And I spent my whole life thinking that sex was bad.
And then immediately I get married and I have to think it's the best thing ever.
Pearl's war against trad women continues.
Yeah.
I mean, look at somebody's got to do it.
Somebody's got to do it.
And I want it to be me because I have the time.
I have the time.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know, somebody's got to do it.
The men aren't going to do it because they're afraid of these hoes.
I'm not afraid of these hoes.
I got nothing to lose.
I might as well.
And I can't psychologically switch.
So then they like don't enjoy it and they're uncomfortable doing it.
So again, we have two things you can marry for as a woman.
You can marry for resources or you can marry for genuine desire.
Genuine desire is genetics.
It's like your type.
Alpha fucks, beta bucks.
Religion wants to come in and enforce monogamy and it wants to take away choice and it wants to tell women to have sex with their husband that they're not attracted to.
And that's really what she's describing because women can't wait.
Women don't need any instruction to bounce that thing on Chad.
Women, women will just bounce that.
It's like it comes out so naturally.
Any guy that's been Chad and the Chad position, they know that woman doesn't need any instruction.
So what they're doing is when you have monogamy, what happens is women are married to men they're not attracted to.
And many men are married to women they're not attracted to.
Most people getting married, it's really not their first choice.
Like, let's just keep it a buck.
And you can either make peace with that fact and never talk about it, or these women are just coping and coping publicly.
That's the embarrassing part.
That's the embarrassment.
So Doug MPA just said, marriage.
It's kind of funny.
He said, sex on the left, Chad's banging, libt hard women, sex on the right, sexless marriage.
As soon as the right pushed, the wife's body doesn't belong to her husband's crap.
The right wife was cooked.
Yeah.
And that's the question you got to ask yourself as a man.
Do you want your wife to be forced to have sex with you?
Do you want her to want to, or do you want her to be forced?
And that's the question.
And I think the answer from most men, well, is no, I want her to want to.
And then you're like, well, then you got to do all this gesture maxing and all this bullshit.
And then it's like, well, I don't want to do that.
And I'm like, well, you can't.
Then I'm like, then you got a status max, gesture max, looks max, all this bullshit.
Do you want it forced?
And that's the question because you don't get both.
Oh, she's always going to, I'm that, she's always going to want to bang me.
Not really.
Most guys will never know what genuine desire sex is.
And they don't really know.
Most guys don't even know they don't have it.
Where to go or who to turn to.
So it's, it's really like the ultimate sex book.
It definitely is not for everyone.
It is explicit in how-tos.
But I think that.
Yeah.
If we don't force women to marry men they don't like, then civilization itself will end in nuclear holocaust.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
So, and look at men are forced to go like die in war if needed.
So it's not like, you know, I'm thinking, like, is it really the end of the world?
Like, can you just, you know, thrust, throw it back?
But then the men are like, I want to be first choice or nothing.
Some men, right?
But then they get older and they, you know, I think they sometimes they get the genuine desire and the bitch like keys their car or some bullshit.
And they're like, you know what?
You can cheat with your ex.
It's fine.
It's great.
It'll be a great gift to give people on their bachelorette before they get married.
As I'm sure you're picking up from our conversation with Brittany today, public discourse these days as an always bad, like a black and white, it is bad.
And then all of a sudden it is good.
Sex as a Gift from God00:12:26
When you articulated so beautifully a few minutes ago that sex is a gift from God.
It was created on purpose for a reason.
And I had heard one teacher growing up in Catholic high school talk about this.
That was pretty much it in our morality class.
It was a mandated theology class that we took in high school.
And he said, ultimately, no one will ever tell you this in culture, but having sex with your spouse is supposed to be the closest physical sensation we have to what it's like to be in heaven.
Yes.
I was going to write that.
I never thought about that before.
And that totally changed my perspective when I was like 15 years old and we were talking about this.
Yeah, you guys got to stop putting sex on this pedestal at some at some at some point.
It's just sex, right?
And that's now they're trying to elevate.
They're like, Chad's going to bang you so good, you're going to think you're in heaven.
That is not going to be the experience for most conservative.
If you're really going the trad route and getting a virgin man, promise to God, he is not banging you like, like you're going to, and there's this idea if women, women aren't going to know that he's not banging her.
Like there's this idea that women are not going to know that if they've never had sex before, they won't know bad sex.
I'd like to say that is there's sex that leaves women more curious to try something else.
And there's sex that, you know, because if that was true, if women are satisfied just because they'd had sex with no one else, then all women would stay with the first guy they had sex with.
But we just keep going, especially attractive women, like all the Stacies that are chosen in high school, if I'm going to be honest, that was who I saw being like the least attached during sex.
And it's because they had a lot of Chad options.
Why do you think the church isn't presenting it that way to young people, especially young Christians?
It's a good idea it's a good idea.
I think they've like, I don't, they're, the strategy is just really bad.
It's kind of like with the pill.
People are like, oh, the church has talked about for decades, but it's like, it's kind of irrelevant because nothing happened.
Doug MPA said social media gets women curious about sex with other men now.
It's unavoidable.
Doug MP, it's not even just that.
Like before it was their girlfriends would talk, you know, because if let's say girl A is married to Chad and she's like, girl, he choked me out last night.
Oh my God, I did this position in that position.
And girl B is just getting missionary.
She's like, am I missing out on life?
I need to find myself.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I'm a fem cell.
How did you know?
Nobody will do it because I'm too chopped.
You know, it's just, it's just life.
Sometimes in life, you're chopped.
And I remember when I was like 14 or 15, you hear like, oh, sex is bad, blah, blah, blah.
But then Adriana Lima was like, I'm waiting until marriage because if a man doesn't wait for me, he doesn't want me.
And like to see someone who's so powerful and beautiful and can have any man in the world.
And she's like, I'm not going to do it.
Like, I was like, wait, what?
Maybe like that's like inspiring instead of just like, don't do it.
It's bad.
It's bad.
And it's, it's almost why, unfortunately, um, I have a lot of friends who are priests and a lot of the more traditional circles such a huge issue.
And I saw this really great thread from Giff Lofta and he was talking about how Christian men can have a harder time quitting.
Okay.
Well, yeah, because their wives are more chopped.
Like, let's be honest.
The hottest women are on boats in Miami.
And the mid women are like, I'm going to be religious.
It's why all the women involved in this conversation on both sides are kind of mid, right?
It's like mid, it's like mid-off.
I'm mid, they're mid.
It's like mid, And then also Christian women get fat after they get married and stop banging their husbands.
Because again, it's kind of easy to withhold sex when you don't have a genuine desire for the guy.
So again, like this whole thing is about, I am cool.
Like that is the essentially what they all just want to say, I am cool.
Because they're just told that their nature as men is evil.
Like lust is bad, obviously.
So the male sex drive is bad in general.
And then when you look at guys who I want to say are more like, they like Christianity, but maybe they're not fully into it, but they're more logical, then they're like, oh, like alcohol is bad objectively because of this is bad objectively because of this.
So I don't watch it.
But they're able to look at it more from a health issue type of thing versus like this is bad, your nature is bad, et cetera.
Your nature is bad.
Yeah.
I feel like the church.
Well, here's the church.
Here's, I'll tell you, the church's issue.
And this, when I figured this out, because I would say I grew up with a lot of like sexual shame.
I don't want to overshare.
I probably will.
But you really don't want to be a whore, right?
But it's very difficult because they don't give you like instructions.
They just say, oh, like it all happened naturally for my parents or like their parents.
And you're like, okay, it'll just happen.
And our generation, I would say Gen Z, young millennials, we're kind of the generation that things just didn't just happen.
You either had to get on a dating app, like you would eat, or you had to participate in a hookup culture.
Because the only way if you have dating that equates to you, you are participating in hookup culture and it's made the best.
Now you got to play the dating game, which is be the thinnest, the most attractive.
And now you're in the competition and the competition is between women and high status men.
That's who we're naturally always, always, always going to pick.
So you either give women choice or you don't.
And so the church says, wait till marriage.
And, you know, I remember thinking in middle school or not middle school, high school, my grandma said, oh, I waited till marriage.
And I'm like, Grandma, you got married at like 16.
That's easy.
I'm horny as hell.
You know what I mean?
Like, nothing's hornier than a teenage girl.
Let's just keep it a buck.
I waited.
I am going to overshare.
I waited till I was halfway through college to have sex.
And it felt like forever.
It felt like I waited a lifetime because your hormones are just going crazy.
It's, it's saying, reproduce.
And so they say, it's bad, it's bad, it's bad, but they don't really give you a solution.
They don't really give you, you know, I had a few crushes in high school.
None of them really liked me back.
And I was shocking.
Actually, one of them banged two of my friends who's like incredible.
And now, what you know, what would have been good is maybe they said, You look at you're too fat, you got to lose weight, you're going out of your leak.
Like, that's pragmatic, you know what I mean?
Um, but it's just like, oh, it'll just happen.
Because for our parents, it just happened.
You know, they met, they went buckwild, they banged.
Um, yeah, it's the guys always say that it's not that hard to resist your hormones.
Yeah, right.
I mean, it, because most men have to do work to resist their hormones.
Women, there's poo knit, there's thrown at us 24-7.
You don't have to act in every impulse.
That's true.
But again, it's just not reasonable to expect people to wait till their late 20s to have sex.
And if you don't, I've met people that that's true.
And that's weird, right?
In biblical times, people got married in their teens for arranged marriage.
Waiting until marriages, you're easy when you're forced into marriage when you're still a kid.
Exactly.
And now they're asking, now they're asking you to wait.
And again, I remember I was halfway through school.
I was the last one to lose my virginity out of the women on my team at the time.
And I remember thinking, like, I remember thinking that like I have waited forever.
Yeah, I know.
We're clearly biologically meant to pair up shortly after puberty.
Yeah.
And I'm just trying to be honest about this.
It's easy to say, oh, resist impulses when you're ugly or you don't have the choice, right?
And I don't know what it is biologically.
It seems like men, my experience, I was talking to this, to someone about this today.
It seems like men aren't really interested in women until their teens.
Like I had no male attention till I got to college, right?
I know it's hard to believe.
Everyone's like, when you're a young woman, I'm like, I don't know.
It seemed when I was in high school, the guys were just busy doing other things.
One of them, one of them was getting bitches, but he chose other bitches.
You know what I mean?
I'm sure there's maybe exceptions, but this is just what I remember.
It seemed like men didn't really get interested till college in like sex and stuff.
I don't know.
Maybe that's just my experience.
Kind of treats men as defunct women.
And I feel like women were kind of treated as defunct men with fourth wave feminism.
Oh, what do you mean by that?
Explain that.
I feel like women were told that their gifts as women, like being beautiful, charming, et cetera, which is like now, mind you, this is a lot of the talking point.
If it feels like hell, it leads you to heaven.
If it feels like heaven, it leads you to hell.
High IQ, people can redirect their minds to more productive things.
So he's basically telling me he's better than me.
And he's signaling, I am better than you.
And usually when people signal like this, they're still succumbed to the same stuff everyone else is.
The way that he's speaking is the same way Elijah Schaefer was speaking when he was banging his 22-year-old, you know, the 22-year-old chick.
So most people in the right circumstances, they're going to cave.
Some people for like different things, right?
I can actually go without for a long time if I really need to.
I'm not, I don't want to, again, this is TMI.
This is TMI.
But there's things that are, you know, more of pain points for me.
And that's food.
I would actually say food is my biggest addiction.
But usually, and that's why I talk about fat people a lot.
And that's kind of the psychology behind it.
The more people say like, you're bad because you're this, the more they usually struggle with that sin.
Beautiful, powerful thing is wheat compared to like your intellect.
Like they're like, oh, if you have a high IQ or whatever, you're smarter.
But then the fall happened because the woman wanted knowledge, you know?
So it's almost like this weird thing.
I'm doing a yeah, curiosity.
So instead, like, I like how her solution is not, maybe we should stop trying to learn things and know things.
And instead, it's more instead, it's, it's more, now I need to provide the knowledge as a woman.
That's not traditional.
Whole thesis on it to try to get into it.
But you're almost told everything that makes you a woman makes you weak.
So dress more like a man, act.
No, look at you are weak as a woman.
And let's stop keeping a buck.
Like you guys are not strong women.
You're weak women.
We're all weak.
Look, if anyone caved, like started yelling at me, I'm just going to say, you're right.
I'll see you.
More like a man in order to get succeed.
And that was in the 2010s.
And men in churches are often told, like, oh, anything male is like bad.
So then be more kind of like women.
Like the toxically masculine thing.
Yeah.
It's like masculinity is toxic.
And it's like they focus more on kind of men issues and like sins overall.
What a powerful perspective when you really consider the fact that we are created in the divine image of God.
Our nature was given to us for a reason on purpose.
And to bring this back to the sex and intimacy conversation, the longer I've been married, and I know I'm still pretty new at this, so I'm still learning on the job, the more I've realized that even the marital act of intimacy itself is supposed to reflect our nature as men and women.
Men give, women receive.
And what women receive, they will multiply.
They will create something out of as we create babies and bring new life into the world.
Why do you think we're not quite as explicit in our conversation about that?
And we instead just never address the physicality aspect of how God created us.
I don't know.
And it's very interesting.
I think it's more of an Americanized idea because when you go to Italy or other countries that I guess more Catholic, it is like you see like beauty and like they're just more comfortable with it.
But because we were formed more in a Puritan kind of Quaker way, it's a little bit more, you're either one extreme or the other.
And I feel like.
Not really.
Different Types of Whores00:00:50
There's, you know, I could do a show on the different types of whores.
There's a lot of different types.
There's whores that go in and out of the game where they go in the game, they whore a little bit to get a relationship, then they whore out.
Then there's women that are constantly whoreing no matter where they're at.
Horror, whore, whore.
There's women that whore for a period and then stop.
There's different, different types of whores, you know.
That's not good for society overall to either be like, oh, everything is bad.
I got something to go to, so I got to bounce.
But I think I'll do a part two on this tomorrow.
I've enjoyed this.
I think this was a fun convo.
So I hope women keep talking because I'll have content forever 1955.
Remember that.
If I have time tomorrow, I'm going to film some reactions, but I might do part two.
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