Leonid Radvinsky, the late OnlyFans CEO who died in March 2026, sparks a fierce debate over whether he is a hero or villain for creating a platform where 82 million American men subscribe, spending roughly $48.52 per creator to find emotional connections outside traditional marriage. While listeners praise his $23 million cancer donation and $5 billion Ukraine aid as saintly acts, critics argue the site creates an unrealistic incentive structure compared to legal prostitution, fostering parasocial relationships and validating a scarcity mindset that distorts gender dynamics and modern dating expectations. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Thank you guys all for being here.
I don't know what I would do without you.
Today, we are talking about only fans.
But before we get into the show, usually what I do is I go through my, I check Twitter at the beginning of the show and we just kind of talk about life and all the stuff.
So we're going to start.
I did run five miles today, which was kind of crazy.
I have a half marathon.
I was just looking up.
I signed up for a half marathon in a month and I haven't trained at all.
So I was like, okay.
I think if I get to like eight, I'll be able to finish.
So I'm going to try for eight next week.
Okay, so there's a clip of Ashley St. Clair that's going viral.
Ashley St. Clair is Elon Musk's baby mama or one of, you know, players got to play.
Elon Musk's baby mama, Ashley St. Clair laughs awkwardly as she recalls how interesting and intoxicating he felt to her younger self.
So this is why women will always make them the themselves the victims no matter what.
So you might as well be the villain because she's going to make you one anyway.
It doesn't seem like he sleeps.
He's like tweeting all night.
He's very manic.
He has 13 children, multiple.
Can you just imagine like this guy is going to space, right?
And you have the audacity to say like that he's manic.
It's just, you know, it's just kind of rich.
Oh, I see.
This one's not working.
All ex-wives.
Like, I don't understand like how he, like, what is it like to be in his orbit?
I, you know, when I first met him, I thought he was very interesting, especially I was 23, 24 at the time, and guys my age are not talking about philosophy or Schopenhauer or the grace.
He's talking about Schopenhauer?
Yes, to a degree.
So, you know, finding someone who could speak about something and at the time, it's always like after they're like, oh, I was brainwashed into Glutt Gluck 9000.
It's never, I did it enthusiastically and willingly.
It's always, well, I was trained.
You think this it's just so embarrassing being a woman because it's just the L's we take are just incredible.
It's like a woman like that, she's cute, you know, she could have been Elon's favorite baby mama, but she fumbled because she's too crazy.
This individual is a part of something so much bigger than themselves and they're fighting the good fight.
You know, that's very intoxicating to a young girl who's does not have a fully developed prefrontal cortex at the time.
So I think there's, there's been a different and he's trying to smash next.
So he's got to lie, obviously.
Different in my view since I've shot that.
It doesn't seem like he sleeps.
He's like tweeting all night.
Yeah.
He's very manic.
All right.
So, you know, that's kind of crazy.
Okay.
Michael Knowles, who is a porn star defender, he did an interview with Nala Ray and it was the most softball interview I've ever seen.
He questioned me like, no, tomorrow when I said, men, I don't know if you should get married.
I mean, it's kind of an L.
But a porn star with an act of OnlyFans who says, I changed, he gives a softball interview too.
Incredible.
So now when a guy is bragging about marrying a whore, now he's coming out.
Let's see what he has to say.
This is going viral right now on social media.
And this is a Christian.
I don't know if If he's a pastor or if he's just a lay preacher type, but he's a professional Christian.
I think he's an evangelical Protestant.
And here's the post that's going viral.
It opens up, says, My wife was formerly promiscuous.
I was a virgin.
And he goes on to explain what a whore his wife was, I guess.
But he says that's good.
And anyway, we'll get to what that means.
We'll get to why some people are objecting to it.
First, though, I want to tell you about pre-born.
Go to preborn.com/slash Knowles.
Abortion happens fast.
And right now, in towns and cities, they're told the baby's chance of least.
I support this.
This is this man, preborn.com slash Knowles, Canada WLAS, to make an impact on generations to come.
My wife was formerly promiscuous, says this man, Trevor Sheets.
I was a virgin.
She was then radically born again, committed to church, evangelized constantly, Puritan books in her bedroom.
So that's why I would say he's almost certainly an evangelical Protestant.
I have a lot of Puritan ancestors, you know.
Some of those separatists came here on the Mayflower.
I love my Puritan family, but Puritanism, not where it's at.
A friend of mine, a priest friend of mine, once said that Thanksgiving is a bigger holiday in the UK than it is in America because it's when they got rid of all those Puritans and separatists.
You guys are too weird.
Get out of here.
Anyway, so okay, that's this guy's perspective.
He talks about his wife.
He says, we got to know each other well for over a year, dated for four months, engaged for two and a half, and did not sin sexually with one another.
Our first kiss with each other was at the altar on our wedding day, reaction pic attached.
So he puts a picture of his poor wife.
He's calling his wife a slot.
And then he puts this picture of the wife on the post.
We've been married for over five years now.
She's been the most wonderful and godly wife, mother to our three children, and a homemaker you could imagine.
She's more pure than most virgins, as biblical purity has less to do with past sins and more to do with one's current posture of the heart.
We're far too quick to forget the story of the woman labeled as a known sinner, which likely means a prostitute.
The Pharisees were shocked that Jesus let a public sinner wash his feet with her own tears.
Jesus responded with a parable about debts being forgiven.
Okay, you get the point.
You get how this could be a nice thing.
And yet it feels a little off, doesn't it?
Yeah, again, but Michael's saying this now, after you were part of the problem, right?
Now you're like, oh, let me walk it back.
Still no apology for Pearl.
Still no apology for Pearl.
It's just incredible.
Incredible.
I mean, it goes on and on and on.
It's talking about Christ's forgiveness.
And so that's all really good.
It's true.
Purity ultimately has more to do with one's present state.
You know, morality, virtue has more to do with one's present posture and orientation than it has to do with one's past sins.
The devil wants to tell you that you're going to get bogged down in all your past sins.
Yeah, but again, you, Christians always say, don't do what I do to get what I got.
So they lie, cheated, and steal.
Stole, they lied, cheated, stole to get married, to get the money they got.
And then they're like, oh, but you guys can't do it.
And you're like, what the fuck?
Fuck you.
It's like, they're like, well, in order to get a wife, I banged a lot of bitches, but you guys can't.
You guys can't.
And they're like, what are you?
Are you telling another grown man what to do with his?
And it's, you know, this.
The devil whispers in your ear before you sin and says, that sin is no big deal.
Just do it.
No one cares.
And then the minute you sin, he says you can never be forgiven.
That's the most enormous sin in the world.
That's it.
That's one of the ways in which he tricks you.
So it's true.
It's all about where you're walking.
I think C.S. Lewis uses this metaphor that this image that, you know, we're all kind of like toddlers.
We're all kind of toddling around.
And what matters is that we're toddling toward God.
And we're going to fall and we're going, we're going to wobble.
I don't like that we're going to fall.
Again, that's kind of a get out of jail free card for anything.
I'm going to go suck 100 dicks and just say, oh, I just fell into temptation.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, yeah, I just, I just fell.
You know, it's like Elijah Schaefer fell into 22-year-old Pooh Nanny and was like, I just, I just fell into temptation.
Yeah.
You know?
As long as we're oriented toward God, as long as our desire is turned toward God and we're moving in that direction, that's what God really wants.
That's what delights God.
And if we're moving in the opposite direction or we're despairing or giving up or whatever, that's a big problem.
But all of that said, I agree with so many of the points he's making.
And yet this is something wrong with this post, right?
You shouldn't call your wife a whore on social media.
I think.
Can we say that?
Is that, I don't know, am I?
And I have noticed this.
This is sometimes Christians broadly do this kind of thing.
They boast, even.
They broadly and loudly proclaim their previous sins.
Sometimes they'll go into lurid detail.
I do.
It almost comes off as bragging.
It's like, yeah, I whored out.
Now you're tempting all these men to look up your sex tape.
We want to see the Gluckluck 9000.
Why does only he get to see?
It's on the internet.
You know, this is more an evangelical.
Do you know what?
An A1 reaction would be me reacting to corn.
I just think my commentary, because honestly, I've just never been a fan of corn.
Never really watched it.
The only time I've ever watched it is when I've said, I've never seen corn.
And then people are like, oh, you have to see, or like Twitter, right?
When clips come up, but I've never like actively, I've never actively sought it.
But I think I could rank girls Gluck Glucks.
You know what I mean?
I think I could, I think I could really rank them.
I think I could really, you know, I could just give, I think my commentary would be pretty funny.
Anyways, the reactions nobody asked for and nobody wanted, but I'm going to, I'm going to offer anyone.
Protestant thing, then other flavors of Christianity.
But and yeah, I could rate the hoes.
I could say if the hoe, do you think this hoe is doing it for the love of the game, the camera or the money?
Because there's some hoes, they're hoes.
They do it for the love of the game.
It's kind of like, but then they just get paid.
They happen to get paid.
But some, you know, some hoes, it's like the enthusiasm just isn't there.
They're just clearly there because they make money being hot, you know.
We could get into specific reasons why that is, but it's a little weird.
And here's why.
Christ forgives us.
He comes not to condemn the world, but to save the world.
God's grace is far greater than we can possibly imagine.
We have the opportunity to cooperate with God's grace.
We don't need to live constantly bogged down by shame of our past.
We can move forward in the grace of Christ.
All of that is true.
All of that is true.
And yet we owe each something.
We owe each other something beyond just grace.
We owe each other discretion.
You don't need to talk about your past sins all the time.
Sometimes that can be powerful testimony, but sometimes it's a little awkward and weird.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
So says the guy who did an in-depth interview with Nala Ray, it's okay, but only when it serves you.
Yep.
All right.
I just like this comment.
So there's a only or there was an ex-whore saying that I used to be a whore.
Now I'm not a whore.
The whole pipeline to Jesus.
And I really enjoyed this commentary.
This saga has reminded me why I lost interest in church in the first place, because I found myself constantly surrounded by weak, effeminate men.
If you glance around this site, you'll notice that virtually everyone recognizes there's a problem with our recently famous internet power couple, except for a significant portion of one group, the loud and proud Christians.
Everyone is running cover for them, that is running cover for them, falls into the naive Christian camp.
Since a large number of these folks are struggling with the moral math, I'll spell it out.
A married woman who constantly brings attention to her promiscuous past has not totally repented of it.
To repent is to let the old version of yourself die and to bury it as you commit to becoming something better.
As a wife and a mother, you have the responsibility to your family that supersedes any good that might have come from constant public retellings of your hoe-to-homemaker redemption story.
One is to safeguard and promote your husband's reputation so that he can be effective in acting on behalf of the family.
The behavior of a man's wife directly impacts the respect he commands from other men.
Making TikTok videos about all the men you that used to rail you is kryptonite to your husband's standing.
Thus, the effect of Ashley's hoe branding is to promote herself at the expense of her husband and by extension, her family.
This is true, even if her gay, retarded husband doesn't realize it.
So the problem with Ashley is not her past as much as it is her present.
She's living to exalt herself at the expense of those closest to her.
And she's found a new clever way to do it.
She packages her words in a little tidy pitch that she calls her testimony.
And with this label applied, NPC Christians take to their conditioning to automatically sanction her deranged behavior without considering the wider implications of what she's doing.
Well, what does NPC conditioning come from?
With that question, we've arrived at the real problem.
The modern church is rife with pudgy, gay-faced pastors who themselves have little actual virtue and are unfit to lead, yet who are annoyingly well-practiced at hand-waving bad behavior with whatever Bible verse they find most convenient in the moment.
To put it bluntly, any adult man who cannot quickly and easily tell you why this couple's behavior is wrong and who is willing to publicly do so has no business leading a church.
Yet, so many are coming out of the woodwork to provide cover for them rather than call out the bullshit.
They're doing this because they, along with Ashley and her gay retarded husband, are practicing in the process of inflating their own status without grounding it in any real virtue while falling back on Christian psychobabble to cover their tracks.
Christian status laundering, you might call it, misappropriating Christian theology to pretend they're admirable and virtuous because they all need the others to do the same for them.
And so the racket continues as anyone with actual virtue becomes demoralized and detached from the church, and the perpetual degenerates stick around and provide cover for each other.
Christian Status Laundering00:02:09
Oh, I like this reply.
Most churches are full of weak men who band together and attack any man with any strength or masculinity to enforce that it's masculine to be a simp and a slave to your wife and name only.
What servant leadership claims to be, I am the leader, I'm in charge, but I'm benevolent.
I use my power to take care of those beneath me.
I put myself last.
I'm the girl.
I'm a submissive trad wife who listens and obeys.
I will follow my man wherever he leads.
I know he is looking out for me and will do what is right.
The girl.
You didn't do what I wanted.
You're getting in the way.
You're a bad husband.
You're not serving me.
You're not worthy of my submission and obedience.
Now, S-T-F-U and obey me and put yourself last.
Then it's a dork.
Yes, dear.
I'm sorry, I failed you as a man and a husband.
A real man takes correction from their wives.
Real men obey and submit to those that they lead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay.
If you ever want to question my recruiting abilities, just look at my wife.
She's hot.
Look at that.
She's beautiful.
Yeah, 95% of religious guys are major simps.
It's, I'm telling you, every guy I know that's virtuous and masculine, it's very rare.
They're also in the church.
Virtuous, masculine, attractive.
Never in the church.
Not that you have to be attractive, but it's like, you know, like, has things going for himself, you know, like it's just under 40, they might because I mean, people get bamboozled under 40, but they get tired.
They just see this song over and over again and they leave.
They leave.
Okay.
All right.
Let's talk about the topic.
OnlyFans User Demographics00:05:03
Let's talk about OnlyFans.
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
All right.
So the OnlyFans CEO died, and the world is celebrating.
Apparently, the Christians have come in and declared porn is the root of all evil.
For this show, I'm actually going to say corn for the rest of the show.
I'm referring to P-O-R-N.
However, I don't want this stream to get demonetized.
So for the purpose of the show, I'm going to say corn.
So according to the Bible thumpers, corn is burning society to the ground.
And they're happy.
You know, Leonor Lenoid Radvinsky is a 43-year-old owner and CEO of OnlyFans, and he died after a battle with cancer, as confirmed on March 23rd, 2026.
He was a Ukrainian-American entrepreneur who bought the platform in 2018 and transformed it into a major adult subscription service.
Now, again, everybody's celebrating.
All the Bible thumpers have come in.
They're virtuous.
He's not virtuous.
He is the devil, right?
He's providing men with young, naked women.
He's giving young women the opportunity to get naked on camera.
And it's actually gotten pretty bad.
One out of 10 women under 25 are on OnlyFans.
And there's actually data that suggests it's at much higher.
If you include other websites like Sugar Babying, which oftentimes OnlyFans is a funnel for many women don't make money off of actual OnlyFans, but it funnels into sugar babies.
Data regarding the exact percentage of American men who subscribe to OnlyFans is limited and often based on user demographic studies rather than national surveys.
One study found that approximately 63% of OnlyFans users are male, and while many are married, another report suggests that users are largely in relationships, suggesting a significant portion of consumers are partnered or married men.
Research into user characteristics shows that the average OnlyFans user is a male and white.
A relationship study highlighted that 90% of subscribers are married.
And on average, they spend about $48.52 per creator.
While total spending in America is high.
Oh, wait, hold on.
Estimated at 2.63 billion individual public facing figures on the percentage of all American men who have subscribed to are generally not tracked by national statistics agencies.
making it a little bit difficult to confirm.
Now, when I ran the numbers, which you guys can take these or leave it, I just took the amount of users that they reported were American on OnlyFans.
This is what I got here.
I did this a while ago.
Hold on.
1.4 million women in America do OnlyFans.
1.2 million is between 18 and 24.
What percent of women, how many women in America are between 18 to 24?
I find out roughly 10 million women.
So just on OnlyFans alone, 10% of women in that age group are on OnlyFans.
So there's only 10 million women between 18 to 25.
Then I decided to think more about the consumers.
Who is consuming OnlyFans?
And I found out that 82 million American men subscribe to OnlyFans.
Now, to think about how big that number is, how many people are in America?
165 million men are in the United States.
And they're telling me that 82 million out of 162 million are subscribed to OnlyFans.
Of the 82 million men subscribed to OnlyFans, 90% are married.
And 87% of OnlyFans users are male and 68% of OnlyFans users are white.
So the average OnlyFans customer is a white married man.
Now, this might be surprising to people, but to me in my line of work, it's not surprising at all.
Average Men and Sex00:15:34
We all know that getting married is the key to never having sex again.
The best sex you're ever going to have is with your girlfriend.
The worst sex or the lack of sex you're ever going to have is going to be with your wife.
We all know this.
Getting married is actually the key to no sex and your wife being a bitch and changing completely.
We all know the script, right?
We all know it.
It's get married and after marriage, the wife stops banging the husband.
She has leverage and she's now a bitch.
We've seen it a million times.
Half of us have seen it with our own parents.
So to me, it's not shocking at all, which is why the Bible thumper version of like what marriage is always irked me because if it was so great, then why aren't the results better?
You know what I mean?
Why does it, why isn't it better?
Okay.
Now, again, people are celebrating.
I saw a bunch of conservative commentators celebrate.
You know, Tim Poole, I saw a tweet from him celebrating a lot of conservative commentators.
And to them, I say, I would argue, I'm going to go so far to argue, OnlyFans has done more good than harm in society.
Yes, I know I'm going to get heat for this opinion.
I would argue that corn and OnlyFans has saved more marriages than it has destroyed.
Now, I can already hear the pushback.
It's really bad for men.
They shouldn't be able to just Google female sexuality.
That's terrible.
But we got to go back and think about the way that society is structured.
Now, I have never heard a Christian conservative come out and say that arranged marriages is only the way.
We have to ask ourselves something as a society.
Do we want to force women to have sex or not?
Do we want to force women to have sex with men they are not attracted to or not?
Now, I hear my critics and detractors come at me and they say, why don't we just go back to the good old days?
50 years ago, everyone was married.
Everyone had four kids.
And, you know, at one point, maybe I actually thought this too.
But upon further digging, I realized that the good old days aren't really the good old days.
The first sexual revolution was in the 1920s, meaning you could have got a bitch in 1880 and she would go out into the city and throw it back before she got married.
On top of that, you could have got a girl in 1950 and in 1970, America had the biggest divorce rate ever, ever.
So you could have got a bitch when divorce was literally illegal.
And she still would have divorced your ass.
There's also many writings on the nature of women and how women just destroy.
Now, obviously, I do like to dunk on us because we just are dunkable, you know.
But we have to ask ourselves, what are we going to do in a society where women have choice of who they want to sleep with?
Now, my critics and detractors and often Christians, they come out and they say, but Pearl, but Pearl, why don't we just tell women to stop banging Chads?
Stop banging clavicular.
Stop banging.
Stop banging these men.
Just give them the tools and say, but Pearl, but Pearl, but Pearl.
And I say, guys, women will ruin their marriages of 20 years to bang a Chad.
You will never stop women from banging Chad unless it's legally enforced or you put the burqa on them.
And so it goes back to the core.
What we are finding out is that when you give women choice, women do not like men.
Women do not like most men.
Gen Z women rank men as seventh on their list of priorities, ranking travel above men, hobbies above men, eating at restaurants above men.
All data, I mean, women have said for 50 years they don't need a man.
Women are saying with their actions and their words, they do not like men and they do not, we do not want to be mothers.
And again, I hear my critics and detractors, they come out and they're stupid, right?
They don't see what's right in front of them.
They say, Pearl, but no, Pearl, women are nurturing.
Well, if women are nurturing, why have they aborted an eighth of the world population if women want to be mothers?
Women don't want to be mothers until they absolutely have to.
They would rather do anything else, anything.
And then, you know, the next critic and detractor, they say, but Pearl, but Pearl, but Pearl.
You know, they, but they say they want these things.
They say it.
Well, what are their actions say?
You know, I was, I was taught from a young age.
You gotta, you gotta look at what people do, not what they say, because people will say anything.
You're stupid if you go off of what people say.
So now we're in a society that said, you know what?
I don't want women to be forced to have sex with men they're not attracted to.
And I don't necessarily think this line of thought is bad, right?
I don't know if any of you have had a wife that really didn't want to have sex with you.
It almost, the way the men describe it, although I've never been in the situation myself, is they would just rather not have sex than have sex with a woman that doesn't want to have sex.
It's like worse.
And a lot of times I've even interviewed or spoken with men that they say they can tell their wife is trying to like them, but she just does not like them.
And it's like torture, like making a woman like you.
So it goes back to the question: do we want, do we want, do you want to be forced to be with someone who doesn't want you?
And that's the question we have to ask.
Are we going to force women to marry men they're not attracted to?
You cannot logic women into banging men they're not attracted to.
Now, I think the floor for what we're attracted to isn't as high as women have you believe.
I mean, women will bang anything, but right place, right time.
They might not stay with you for life, but I mean, throw it back.
Yeah.
So again, this is the, this is the question we have to ask as a society.
Now, the answer, the answer that we have right now is we do not want to force women to have sex with men they are not attracted to.
We don't.
And a lot of people feel that way.
And I don't think we're necessarily wrong for feeling that way.
I don't think it's overly enjoyable for the men.
But then again, then again, there's men that have nothing, that have no sex, no female attention.
And those men might say, well, I might, I might like some.
I think I would just take the oblig obligation sex.
But then sometimes men get to a point in their life where they have sex with a woman who's begging and saying, please, oh, please, daddy, please, daddy.
And, you know, when they get to that point, they're like, I can never go back to that bullshit sex.
It's why, like, when guys get older, when they're young and the girl says no, they're like, please, please.
And when they get old and the girl says no, they're like, next.
All right.
That's okay, ma'am.
That's okay.
I'll see you.
When they're like, they're like trying to escalate.
And then she's like, I'm not ready.
Next.
They get to the point they're like, you're not going to bang me on the first date.
Next.
They can't even believe they accepted the obligatory sex.
But most men, a lot of men, I would say over half of men have never experienced genuine desire sex in their life ever.
I would say a good chunk of men have never experienced that.
Now, why do I think OnlyFans has done more good than harm?
I want to start with the preface.
We have to start with this preface.
Let's agree for the sake of the show, because I don't want to go into, I don't want to go into the what is a society.
What like we are never going to be in a society, in my opinion, that forces women to have sex in my lifetime.
So we just have to accept that premise.
On my show, we're not idiots.
Okay.
We don't do make a wish on here.
We're not these Bible thumpers.
We gave up on women shit at vote years ago.
Okay.
We are accepting the society, this society we have today.
It is not going to change.
So, knowing that women are given choice in this society, knowing that we have a problem.
Women don't like most men.
women do not want to have sex with most men we are except we that and And the only solution.
So now women do also do not want to get married and don't want to be mothers.
Well, maybe pop out one kid.
Maybe, maybe.
So now we have delayed marriage, meaning people are getting married when they're 30, 32, 35.
It is not reasonable to say you as a man with eight times the testosterone as a woman can never ejaculate until you're 32.
Isn't that kind of absurd?
Like that's kind of crazy.
I mean, have you seen a sexless man?
Like they kind of go nuts.
I don't know if you guys have been around a guy that's not getting sex.
Especially if he can't, especially a young guy, they're going nuts.
Okay.
They have mental breakdowns.
Like they're, they crash out.
Okay.
And we know this.
Rulers always knew that if there was too many sexless men in society, society would crumble.
They would start crashing out.
They would start going literally crazy.
And that's when you have monogamy, right?
The reason we have monogamy is because the kings knew, oh shit, these women are not, they want to bang me.
They don't want to bang these average guys, but I got to give these average guys something in return.
Most men weren't meant to reproduce.
Women are only meant to reproduce with like 10, 20% of men.
That's why guys have such a hard time when they're sexually rejected by women is because it's like an L. They're being told you're not meant to reproduce, unfortunately.
Yeah.
So now we have to think of solutions for the society we have.
And then the society we have, we are no longer forcing monogamy on women.
We tried that.
The women complained so much.
They were like, we cannot, we cannot deal.
We cannot deal with this.
We don't want to be forced to have sex that they complained, they campaigned, and now they could abort kids from average men and they could not reproduce with average men.
And they could keep shooting for all of eternity for a high status male.
Okay.
We are, we are accepting this.
So now what do we do with the sexless men?
There's young men that are sexless.
And there's men that got married and the wife is no longer putting out.
They'll maybe get sex once a month or twice a month to be held over, but she's no longer fucking.
Right?
You're right.
Average men have kids all the time.
That's true.
But they weren't meant to, right?
They weren't meant to.
It's enforced monogamy.
Anyways, we'll keep going.
So, and the more choice you give women, the less average men reproduce.
I mean, all the data says this.
Now, remember, women sometimes rate like it's not above average in a male world because there's many men with money that are terrible with women that just cannot get boxed to save their life.
Awful.
So it's not about money, right?
You might even argue that it's stupid, right?
But again, in a way, women, it's correct because women are programmed to select the best genes to have their kids survive.
Okay.
All right.
So the first argument, Cope, I get, they said, OnlyFans has allowed women to sell their bodies.
And now young women, they're being trafficked, they're being coerced, and that should never be an option.
And I say, do you think, do you not think that a woman that had it in her to do OnlyFans, do you not think she would have found another way to whore?
Do you not think she would have found another way to be a slut?
We had the town bicycle back in the way, in the day.
If anything, now we're allowing her to whore for more men in the comfort of their own home.
And again, and again, all right, stop spamming the chat with the Discord.
Do you not see I'm in the middle of a monologue?
I can check it when I'm done with the monologue.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, what are you, child?
Have I seen the Manosphere documentary?
No, I didn't care enough.
Anyways, back to the women, if anything, this is revealing to you and allowing you to have a digital footprint.
Before, a woman could have banged a whole town and you would have no idea.
But now there's a digital footprint.
And what was done in the dark is brought to light.
Now you can reject women that did it for a wife and let the whores do what whores do.
Okay.
Choosing Digital Addiction00:13:00
Two average man, men are demanding wives.
Men that are sexually rejected by women, they want wives.
They want to reproduce.
And my question is: do you have the stomach to force women to have sex with men that they are not attracted to?
Because in my opinion, the reason OnlyFans is so popular is because men want enthusiasm.
They want enthusiastic sex from the girl.
And I don't really, that that's a question you have to ask for yourself.
Do you want a woman who doesn't want to be with you?
Again, we go back to if you give women choice, women will share men.
If you give women no choice, they will resent their husband and feel like they are being raped.
It's not actual rape, right?
But they'll feel like it.
So, yeah, they say, I do have the stomach.
Well, that's a question for every person.
My next argument is corn has saved more marriages and OnlyFans has saved more marriages than it has destroyed.
There's a common trope that OnlyFans is ruining marriages.
I would disagree.
There are a lot of men that are sad and lonely in their marriages.
They have wives that browbeat them, that nag them, that tell them they're worthless, useless human beings that haven't slept with them in months.
And the only sex they get is pity sex and have gained 100 pounds.
What do you want those men to do when they want to be a part of their kids' lives?
What do you want a guy to do who's married and he's a soldier and he's deployed?
What do you want a guy to do when his wife hasn't had sex with him in six months?
What do you want a guy to do when he's so lonely and he just wants a little bit of female attention, but he doesn't want to blow up his marriage?
And the other cope that they say is, why do they marry a woman like that?
Well, women change.
It's called fraud, right?
Women change after the ring.
It actually, it makes me question why men sign up for rings in the first place.
I think it's to get sexual access.
We celebrate the female Olympic skater.
But when you think of it like this, the female Olympic skater is using her sexuality and her youth to benefit herself.
Porn stars are actually using their sexuality and youth to benefit men.
In a way, it's actually the most pro-man thing you can do outside of getting married in this economy.
We hate horrors, but they're actually necessary to keep society going and giving women choice, right?
Of who to sleep with.
And that, you know, that's a question for every man.
Women are showing by their actions they don't want to be in relationships and women hold the cards when it comes to sex and relationships.
You often hear the cope that men hold the cards, but we got to think about it like this.
Even ugly women have more options than the average man.
Now, again, the one cope you get is women will never get the men they want, but and women only want men that are six feet, six figures, blah, blah, blah.
But it's kind of like, that's kind of a shit test when you think about it.
Because when you're actually ready to make a purchase, right?
When you're ready to make a purchase on a car, you know the make, the model, and the budget.
When women are ready to make a purchase on a husband, they know the career field.
They know what their budget is.
They know what's realistic.
It's the women that don't want to get married that just say that.
It's just, you know, cop out.
Okay.
Do you want women?
And this goes back to the question.
Do you want women that do not want to be with you?
Women don't like men that much.
If women liked men, then you guys' dates would be better.
You'd ask a woman out and she'd say, Wow, I can't wait.
I'd love to go.
I'll be there on time.
You don't see that, do you?
No.
The men are showing up on time.
They pick a date that a place that the woman would like.
They think through all of the, they're showing up ready.
They're like, I'm excited.
I'm excited about this possibility.
The women are not as excited.
That's why their behavior is as shows, right?
The genders in general, I would say, don't like each other that much.
Women want resources to some degree.
Women want sex with hot men.
Men want sex.
Men really want women to really want them.
Men want female validation.
And unfortunately, most men are never going to get that.
Or if you do get it, it'll be for a little bit and then she'll be on to the next.
Now, the next argument I get is that men are addicted to corn.
And I don't really think it's as bad as people say because, according to Reddit, a corn addiction takes like two weeks to overcome.
And how many men would be addicted to corn if they had young, hot women enthusiastically wanting to have sex with them?
I think all of the men's corn addiction would end the next day.
And men's corn, I mean, I haven't really watched it too much, but from what I understand, the corn that men select is like more vanilla, where the corn that women select, I would say women's corn addictions are way worse because it's like tie me up.
It's like a bunch of, it's like 50 shades of gray.
Now, the next argument I get is it's bad for society because it gives men unrealistic expectations.
And to that, I say, there are too many men banging fat chicks for me to believe that they have unrealistic expectations.
Sorry, there's too many fat women in America having sex.
Olympics are for global eugenics and pedophilia.
Okay, well, I don't know about that.
Other situations where OnlyFans or corn might be necessary: a man who's deployed, a man whose wife cannot have sex because she's either ill or pregnant.
And, you know, the cope I get from, I really get this from the religious right.
They say, oh, well, you can just overcome it.
And I'm like, do you know anybody that's never watched corn, like any man ever?
And they're like, Jesus.
And I'm like, well, are you Jesus?
Can we start to, can we start to be realistic here?
Can we just start to be like, can we, can we, you know, it's kind of like, imagine if you're making a plan for a company and they're like, they're like, let's spend a billion dollars on this bill.
And you're like, well, do you have a billion dollars?
And they're like, well, no, but, you know, Coca-Cola does.
And you're like, well, you're not Coca-Cola, you know?
So, anyways, my argument is: I don't think corn is bad for society due to the society that we have.
Now, if we lived in a different time, you could argue maybe it is.
But right now, I don't think he's the villain for profiting off of a society that he was born into.
This gives the women all the choice to be who they are, where women can, if they so choose, they can live a virtuous life.
But if they don't want to choose, nobody's stopping you.
And I would argue that this is needed to keep families intact and keep sexless men satisfied to some degree because men will go crazy.
Now, people argue with me.
They say, well, they shouldn't go crazy and they shouldn't need sex.
And it's like, okay, are we in the shoulds or are we in the real life?
Which one are we in?
We got to pick one.
Well, women should want to have sex with men in their league.
they don't.
Well, then should it?
It's like, well, they do.
And this is why, you know, this is why a lot of times the religious right.
I just look at you guys like toddlers.
It's like, are we?
And I understand it's hard when you're young, right?
I'm not, I'm not really judging, but we got to get past this now.
I'm going to put a link in the chat.
And I want to know: do you think Lenoid Radvinsky, the OnlyFans CEO, is the hero or the villain?
If you have any other thoughts on the topic, you can call in.
And I'm going to put this link in the chat.
Yeah, people should be kind to each other, but if you go into life expecting people to be kind to you, someone put in the chat, you are going to like it, it's going to be a rough life.
It's going to be tough.
It's going to be tough, you know.
I mean, we just got to, I like to be realistic with what is marriage should be this way.
Well, it's not, you know.
All right, we got Doug MPA.
Welcome to the show.
Um, do you think he's the hero is a hero or a villain?
So let's celebrate this great man, this hero, because you guys, you know, ultimately, like people try to say, oh, yeah, men are manipulated by OnlyFans.
No, men are creatures of action.
We're the same people, men topple governments.
We do, we're creatures of action, we make things happen.
So most men are on OnlyFans willingly.
I don't believe that OnlyFans has manipulated young men or polluted.
No, like men are choosing to do it.
And I don't have a problem with it.
I mean, everything can be done too much, but the average guy on OnlyFans.
Yes, the average man is just trying to make a paycheck and support his family.
And his wife is a fat, argumentative broad, and he wants to rub one out because he's not getting sex.
So he uses OnlyFans.
That's it.
So I don't have a problem with it.
So this guy, he first off, did you know that he was one of the small hats?
Yeah, guys, we don't care about that.
That's not relevant.
I mean, I'm like, we don't care about the gods.
It's not our problem.
So, so this guy, his philanthropic work, you know, he donated $23 million to cancer research, $5 billion to the Ukraine, all these different humanitarian efforts.
I mean, come on now.
You know, the guy was a businessman in every sense of the word.
He found a need and he actually invested in OnlyFans and took it in the direction it is now.
Green Card Scams Exposed00:03:31
So you can give him credit for that.
But yeah, guys, he, like Pearl said, OnlyFans has been a good thing for society more than bad.
Because, guys, if you want to have a family, you're probably going to get married.
You're probably going to end up in a situation that Pearl always says you're going to end up in.
Your wife has got to get fat, mouthy, and stuff like that.
And your survival mechanism is going to be corn and some kind of OnlyFans, some kind of parasocial relationship.
And I would also say, I mean, yeah, that's pretty much it.
Yeah, I mean, that's good.
I didn't, maybe we should.
Should we ordain him a saint?
Should we ordain him?
Like, I mean, should we call him Saint Leonoy?
Yeah, Leonid.
Oh, oh, and I was going to say, guys, Pearl is talking about enthusiastic sex, right?
The only way that you can get enthusiastic sex from a woman is go to a foreign country and have a foreign woman try to get you to marry her because you're an American to get a green card.
Or even here, if you find an illegal woman who wants a green card, she will blow your mind with sex to get that green card.
That is the only way that you're going to get desirable sex.
You have to have something so important that a woman wants that'll change her life.
And until she gets that, she will give you the kind of sex that men want.
Agree or disagree?
I disagree because I do think when women are young, they still have that enthusiastic sex in them until we get banged out.
So you got to find the woman at school or some bullshit.
Well, no, what I'm saying is, is until she gets what she wants, she will give you that sex because she's trying to convince you to marry her to get a green card.
I got it.
If you want enthusiastic sex, find a married woman.
That's a good one.
Be the side, dude.
Yeah.
Be the side dude.
Be the personal trainer.
Yeah.
Be one of the first five that hit, you know, maybe.
Be personal, jacked, right guy, right time.
Like, you know, occasionally you're like the pool boy.
She's naked, throwing it back.
Anywhere you're having sex, you're not supposed to have sex.
So, you know, some good options for you guys could be a church.
I don't know, like some public places.
Women are really into that.
Like you can probably get enthusiastic sex at school from the teachers.
I just, I don't, I, I honestly still think that want to get a green card sex is better than side dude sex.
All right.
Well, you know what?
We have an expert on this topic.
Sean catching strings on the way in, dude.
Let's go.
All right.
We see how you're rolling, Pearl.
Okay.
I'll claim it.
I'll claim it.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Over a seat.
Ha, ha, ha.
No, no, no.
Don't try to reel it back, Pearl.
You said it.
Side Dudes vs Rock Stars00:04:27
What's up, man?
What's going on?
What do you think about Saint Leonid Radvinsky?
Are we too far calling him a saint, or should we?
No, I think y'all didn't go further enough.
I think he needs a statue down in Washington, D.C., guys.
No, in Miami.
It has to be a statue in Miami.
It's got to be in the capital, United States of America.
Everybody has to know delegates, congressmen, envoys, diplomats, when they come to America, they have to see that man.
I'm just having it up real fast.
So he was worth $4.7 million, and he had a $19 million mansion outside of Miami.
And it says that he was rather reclusive.
He wasn't out on the scene.
He wasn't making noise.
Him and his wife lived in their $19 million mansion and all by themselves.
And he was just low-key, you know?
And he was married.
Shout outs to him.
Yeah.
So why do you think he deserves a statue?
And do you have any other general thoughts on the monologue?
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, I think you were just like hitting the nail on the head, especially when it comes down to just like the impact.
The reality on the ground is that we need people like that.
Those people, like you said earlier, that were going to do OnlyFans.
What do people think?
Like if OnlyFans wasn't there, they were going to cure cancer.
They want to roll in Harvard and create reusable rockets and get us to Mars.
If anything.
It's crazy.
If anything, there'd be more school shooters or something.
Exactly, right?
There'll just be more problems.
So any emperor, any king, anybody who was controller power always knew that there was going to be a portion of society that needed that.
And it was almost all people.
It was just like, what level were you at, right?
Even the nobles, they actually did the same thing.
Some of the first millionaires were females who actually had brothels.
You know, like, come on.
And it's always, it's no more traditional.
And now the most traditional thing, but go ahead.
It can be the whores that are in it for the love of the game and not before it was like force.
Like you had to be.
If you were, I don't know, ugly.
I don't know how they picked the horrors of the past, but I just imagine maybe like, I don't know.
But it was like forced.
Like you were given that title.
Now you have to whore out.
Now it's the women can do it that want to do it for the love of the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Here's the thing.
If you're ever going to say something about Saint Leonid Ravensky getting rich off of OnlyFans, I don't know if you guys remember someone made a pet rock and people bought, made millions of dollars off of a pet rock or a Shia pet.
Remember the Shia pets?
All right.
The type of things that people have gotten rich off of.
At least he created a service.
You know what I'm saying?
Someone got, I'm going to say it one last time.
Someone got rich off of selling a pet rock.
Come on now.
Guys, call in.
Colin Ren.
I know there's some disagreers in the chat.
Yeah.
We don't buy.
It's okay.
You can give your side, you know?
Yeah.
Has OnlyFans been good for society or bad for society?
Why or why not?
Should we revere St. Leonid or should he be considered the devil?
What do you guys think?
You guys are so funny.
I'm telling you, I'm deeming him Saint Leonid.
I hope I'm saying his name right.
You know, all he wanted to do was just make men happier and, you know, and empower women and give women a way to make money and be entrepreneurs.
You know what?
He was a feminist, a female icon, a feminist icon.
Yeah.
Yep.
Truest farm.
I definitely think he needs the medal of honor because how many soldiers down range are able to shoot down range because of him?
Like, man, the guy was making moves.
I really am not mad at it.
Not at all.
Not one bit.
I just think it's a realistic thing that happens.
And then any Christian Crusaders, they just most married men were on it anyways.
Like, come on, cut it out.
And also, if anything, that's the best marriage therapist is a whore.
That's what they say they do.
Most of the guys are talking to him.
He doesn't even actually link up with the OnlyFans or most of the conversation.
Legalizing Real Prostitution00:14:20
A lot of conflicts.
Spies were prostitutes because these soldiers, they'd lay down with the prostitutes and tell all the military secrets to the whores.
We got A. McIntosh.
Welcome to the show.
Do you think Lenoid Radvinsky was a hero or a villain and why?
Yeah, I actually have a little bit of a different perspective on this.
I think that prostitution should be completely legal, but only fans should be and all corn should be outlawed.
Okay, tell me why.
What's the thought process behind it?
Because it's setting up a ridiculous incentive structure.
Like, if you think about it, you know, real prostitution forces there to be some actual loss incurred by both part or at least one party by the seller, and it creates a realistic pricing expectation.
But OnlyFans and all that, it's creating like a ridiculous amount of price for the amount of value generated.
And I think I think that that's really unacceptable.
I think.
Well, do you, because isn't it like five bucks for a lot of these girls' nudes?
Like, what do you mean, the pricing?
Well, it's what I mean is, yeah, but the value is, there's no value exchange, you know, it's and for the sellers, it's creating an unrealistic ability to get rich off of something that's providing very little value.
I think.
Oh, I see.
You're saying how much money they make is ridiculous.
Yeah.
And it's like, so it's not like the individual pricing.
It's like how much money they can make because they have access to more dudes.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, exactly.
And I just think that, you know, prostitution at least is an actual, an actual experience.
Sorry, someone said it should be a non-profit.
Sorry, I'm so sorry.
Keep going.
It's all good.
I just think like the way other countries do it, like Australia, Germany, like there's a genuine need for prostitution and for sex work and all that, but it needs to be the real thing.
Like, I just don't like all this pseudo-parasocial stuff that's going on.
I think that's BS.
Like, if you're going to be a prostitute, then be a real prostitute and actually, you know, suffer the ramifications of that, just like every other career.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're saying they're like avoiding con, they're like giving it's they're avoiding consequences in a way.
Yeah.
It's low risk, high reward for the exactly.
It's way too much in favor of the creator who is, you know, they're really, what they're actually benefiting from is the fact that prostitution is illegal.
They're actually a little cartel on, you know, on that, on that, um, on that rule.
And they shouldn't be getting that.
That's, that's an economically ridiculous business model.
So really, the, the, if poor, I'm sorry, if prostitution was, was legal, they wouldn't have a business anyway.
I can, I can tell you.
So, you know, I'm, I'm in my mid-40s and I come from the generation where, you know, DVDs and stuff like that, you know, before the internet when you were young.
And so when I started seeing free corn on the internet, you know, the hub and stuff like that, I thought that that was the ultimate right there.
And I was wondering, like, what's going to be the next, if there's so much free corn on the internet, like, what's the next step?
And guys, I had no idea it was going to be OnlyFans.
I had no idea.
Like, this whole concept of a parasocial relationship and these guys just give it.
I couldn't have conceived of this when I was young, trying to find, you know, DVDs to watch.
It was crazy.
Like, I, huh?
Do you guys, you're got friends in sexless marriages?
Do you think they would have it in them to see a prostitute if it was legal?
I would say yes.
Yep.
I think they would actually.
Oh, go ahead, Doug.
Well, because incarceration and what comes from incarceration and being arrested is enough of a deterrent for most men.
If that wasn't there, a lot of guys would be hitting on prostitutes.
Yeah, I strongly think that all these sting operations and all these things that they've done to really like make prostitution seem like it's such a taboo thing.
It's really papering over the fact that it's been a pretty mainstream part of any of most societies.
And there's a lot of social gaslighting going on that that's not the case.
And I think this all this OnlyFans stuff is like, it's trying to capture the vapors of that, but it's really not doing a good job of it.
So I think all the parasites need to go.
And anybody who's going to actually be in the sex work industry needs to be having sex.
What do you guys think of that?
Do you agree, disagree, and different?
I wouldn't disagree because he's just offering solutions.
But what I would probably alter is the places that it's legal, meaning prostitution, I think corn is also legal.
I don't think it's outlawed.
Like corn is not outlawed there.
Also, you know, you got to let the free market be the free market.
Like some people want to go to the restaurant and eat and some people want it online.
And so net net, you don't always be able to get up in the beefed up car, roll down the window, ask the girl out the window or go to the brothel.
Somebody want it digitally.
Like that's like saying, let's do away with freaking Uber Eats and you just got to go to the restaurant.
Like there's many shapes, forms, and fashions where people want to consume a product.
And then also, there is actual free prawn.
So the guys who go and pay want something entirely different.
Most people don't do it.
They just go click on some free website and do their thing.
So they're asking for something else if they're doing a paywall and they're actually paying an actual specific content creator.
So it's a whole entire different thing.
It's like, bro, I don't even get it.
I'm like, bro, why don't you just use the free stuff?
They want something else.
That's why they're paying them.
That crowd is that crowd.
You know what I heard it is?
It's like a lot of girls on TikTok, they do like what I eat in a day and just these like, you know, little cute whatever.
And, you know, they just have their link in the bio and it's like 50 bucks for their nudes.
They're like, eh, I kind of want to see what she looks like naked.
I don't think, I think a lot of it, I guess I don't know.
The top spenders are probably pretty into it, but I think a lot of it, like I've heard the, when we interviewed the top only fans model or whatever, she just said it's like a lot of people just want to see the girls nudes.
So I'll leave you with this one point because Pearl, I think this might be applicable to some of the stuff you say.
Sexual, like any, like any sexual action act, there's a pricing dynamic in that that, you know, even if you don't directly, if it's not directly, you know, we don't know what it is, but it reverberates throughout the whole market.
So a lot of times when you talk about like, you know, these women are way overcharging per active sex, that's partially a function of how inaccessible it is for most people.
So the people who are going to be the biggest, the most against legal prostitution are going to be women on mass who would have a lot to lose from it, it being legal.
So I think a lot of things that you're seeing, both in terms of like OnlyFans sex work and then also just in normal marriages are kind of downstream effects of how inaccessible it is for most men.
Really tilts the scale in favor of women.
So, yeah, makes sense.
That was a really good point.
Thanks for calling in.
Of course, thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome to the show, Sean.
Um, what do you think?
Do you think we should make a statue for Lenoid?
Should we make him a saint in America?
Um, or or do you think he's the villain?
And any other general thoughts on the topic?
Go ahead, sir.
Yeah, I would say, you know, he is a hero to all the women who no longer have to get married in order to economically get by.
And they should be the ones who build that statue because they have made, you know, he has basically made them filthy rich in ways that they would never have been able to do it on their own.
A lot of people don't understand the reason why YouTube makes a lot of money is they do not create any of the content, they handle distribution and they've learned to do that at scale.
That makes their platform very, very valuable.
Yep.
And, you know, you can think of all the Kantian creators as the, you know, quote-unquote sex workers of the content industry.
And YouTube's effectively the pimp, right?
OnlyFans basically did that, but in the you know, corn industry, right?
Or in the sort of live streaming corn, they're basically the Twitch of corn, right?
And that's how they've managed to make money.
So I would say, whether it's, you know, Riley Reed or any of the other girls, Sophie Rain, you know, all those girls have become filthy rich because of this guy, and they should be building a statue for him.
Now, all the people who are complaining about it are either Christian conservatives who are just trying to make money off of this topic until they move on to the next theme, or it's the simps and the incels who are basically not getting girlfriends or what have you.
And quite frankly, many of them are paying these women anyways.
So they're a little bit hypocritical on that end, but they're the ones complaining because now they have to compete against, you know, female attention, which is now online, whether it's Instagram or OnlyFans or what have you.
So I think he's absolutely the hero to all these girls who no longer have to deal with men.
And they quite frankly, if you look at their interest in men, you know, if you look at Aaron Clary's book, he's 100% right is they find any way they can to not get married, to not want to settle down with an average guy.
Yeah, that was a really good point.
Do you guys have any thoughts on that?
I mean, he hit it right on the head, man.
Right on the head.
I'm going to build it too, though, because I'm a feminist.
So I'm going to help the feminists build a statue.
Okay.
I might fund it.
So, Sean, you said that he's a hero to the women.
Did you separate the women and the men?
Because you think he's not a hero to men?
Because this whole time you've been saying that he's been a hero to women, but what about to everybody else?
I mean, he's a hero to all the conservative men who now have this talking point that they can go around and claim that, oh, these women are being abused and blah, blah, blah.
The men are being brainwashed by this.
Just count the hours that whether it's Daily Wire or whether it's folks in the TradCon space or all the, you know, fake conservative women that are out there or the e-girls, how many times they've mentioned OnlyFans as if all these women are truly on OnlyFans and not doing any of this stuff on Instagram or any other social media channel, right?
This is just a talking point to them.
And three years from now, they're going to be on to the next thing.
And half of them might be on OnlyFans too, the e-girls.
You never know.
I would say this, Parliament.
Oh, my bad.
Go ahead.
Oh, I was just going to say, I think Lauren Southern might as well just drop one.
Yeah.
Or Sarah.
Sarah Stock might as well.
You never know.
They might be on there too, but go ahead.
No, I think if the average guys, look, Brad, if you want to be some, if you want to be mad at somebody, I would say the person who created Instagram.
That's who you actually need to be worried about.
As far as the OnlyFans, it's like I live in Thailand, right?
I live in a place called Patty and everybody's like, oh, all the girls are ex.
There's so many girls who just choose not to do that.
Now, of course, they still run in game in their own ways, right?
Do they probably go out with a guy so they can, you know, go to this nice beach or this night?
So probably.
But they don't hit the block and sell that poop thing.
Majority of girls just don't do it.
That takes a certain person.
So at the end of the day, people are going to do what they're going to do.
And then they saved average guys.
What do you want this girl to be forced to get married?
And then little do you know, your girl wants to be on OnlyFans and put her box on it, but you want to ecclesiastically preach to her every day to stop it.
It's inside her.
Lylith is real.
Yeah.
So she wants to be a goddamn Jezebel.
Some of them have the spirit.
Let it go.
I 100%.
Bro, Sean, what do you think about this?
I was talking to someone yesterday, and we were talking about nature, right?
And like, men, we've been protected and provided for so long that it's in our nature, but feminism has made it so we're acting for our own preservation.
We have to act against our nature, asking.
It used to be understood if I protected and provided for you, I would get sex, exclusivity.
You take care of my kids.
But women call that misogyny the patriarchy, right?
Anyway, so my friend said, because I said getting married and having kids is in a woman's nature, but feminism has them resisting the nature.
And my friend said, he never thought that coupling with a man or being married to a man was in a woman's nature.
Having kids is, but getting married and coupling with a man never was.
Women just had to do it to survive.
What do you think about that?
I 100% agree with that.
The vast majority of women, even today, only get married when they see that it's in their best interest relative to their opportunity set.
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That's the only time they realistically do it.
You do not see women at age 18 when they're the most beautiful that they've ever been, or you could say 18 to 23, somewhere in that range.
The vast majority of women are not signing up for marriage.
And it's not because there's not enough men to go around.
There's plenty of men older.
It's they look at their opportunity set as it relates to getting educated and potentially being around even wealthier men and being in those social circles so that they can advance themselves or going on vacation or having fun or screwing around or having sexual escapades or whatever it is.
They see more excitement in going down that route for a period of time and they know they can always double back later on to get married if and should they need to.
And the vast majority of even very attractive women who go into their 30s still know they have that opportunity should they decide it's in their interests as it competes against the rest of their life.
And so I 100% believe that the vast majority of women historically only got married because they saw it was in the best interest of themselves and their children to do so.
Yeah, because you look at, I mean, if you want to see who people are, look at what they do when they have choice.
I actually, I would have, I would have taken away even the mothering thing.
I'm like, if women want to be mothers and it's in our nature, why do we keep killing our kids?
100%, right?
And, you know, as it relates to OnlyFans, if you know, women are being forced to do it or whatever it is, right?
There was an old saying that it was in a movie.
I can't remember which one it was, but this guy says he sells drugs.
And someone responded, no, drugs sells themselves.
Like, you know, it's attractive enough.
And that's why people do it.
People don't do it because they're exposed to it, if that makes sense.
People do it because they want to do it.
And the kind of women who do OnlyFans for money do it because they want to.
It's not because it's not a crime of necessity or any of this nonsense.
They do it because they want to.
And the vast majority of sex workers, if you talk to them, like if you go on Reddit sex workers and you go to that subreddit, the vast majority of those sex workers brag about it.
So that should kind of tell you something, right?
They're not ashamed of it.
They talk about how many gifts they've gotten from older men or how many trips they've been on.
It's only the women from these very poor countries that are on it who talk about kind of doing it against their will or dealing with bad clients.
But the vast majority of American women that are primarily on that subreddit will brag about it and will talk about how they've got to do this, that, and the other, how they got in a Range Rover once, right?
So it's more about, you know, in a developed country where you have free choice, it's more about doing it because it's in your interest.
What do you think, Sean?
Yeah, no, I agree.
I agree with everything somebody, everybody just said.
And then also there's people who are okay with it.
If you ever watch a financial audit, right?
There'd be guys on there with girls who used to be on OnlyFans, currently on OnlyFans.
So there's a small segment of guys who are actually going to retire those ladies once they're like, hey, look, I went out.
I want something probably quote unquote normal.
And so at the end of the day, I just like let it go.
As far as average guys who's like, I want to get married.
I want to do this.
Well, look, you got to look at it as somebody is doing you a favor.
Stop trying to save an O. At the end of the day, those girls are going to do it.
They have the drive to do it.
It's vastly different.
There's some girls I know out here in Thailand that work at 7-Eleven, making like $2 an hour, and they could go out on the block and sell that thing for way month more, but they just don't.
They don't.
And there's more 7-Elevens than there is girls selling that thing.
So we get caught up with a couple of A-stars making all the money.
Pearl, do everybody make a bunch of money on YouTube?
No.
Exactly.
It's a small few.
So a lot of these broads, even on OnlyFans, they're just in and out.
But what you probably have to worry about is the girls who are on Seeking and Instagram.
These are the girls who are acting like they're normal, but doing prostitution, but not really acting.
So I'm like, bro, if you want to actually fight somewhere, don't worry about the OnlyFans.
Those girls have the scarlet letter.
They're saving a lot of regular men from actually trying to think that's a regular girl when she has that Jezebel spirit.
She wants to go out there and let that thing fly.
She's a pro.
She's Stefan Curry.
She liked to be on the bed scoring points.
So let her do that.
And when you're a woman, like, it's always really obvious who in the friend group could go down that route.
Like, it's like from a really young age, you kind of see it.
Hoes are going to hoe.
I made my hit single.
Okay, I'm going to bring up some other people.
Men versus dating.
Oh, you got to fix your, you got an echo.
Okay, Rodolfo.
Welcome.
Hi, welcome to the show.
Do you think Lenoid is the hero or the villain?
Sorry, my girlfriend's here.
I guess it depends on the context.
And I hate to give that kind of an answer.
But like, if you're a Christian, of course, you see him as an evil person.
But if you're not, then he's just a businessman.
And that's just it.
And like I was telling my girl, because she asked me, if he was just doing business, it's not like anybody forced these girls to do anything with it.
So, you know, it's like what the other guy said about drugs.
You're not the one selling it.
You're just the tools or the hand that people get it from.
And like, I think, I don't know if you mentioned it before, but if you're thinking that he's the villain, it's because you're thinking that women are naturally just good and perfect and all that.
But, you know, with the internet, social media, and all that, it's taken the veil off of a lot of people's eyes.
And now we're realizing that the modern female nowadays, they're not as innocent as we like to think.
And before I could get this thought, I think the reason why a lot of guys nowadays are so Depressed or whatever about porn and all that.
It's because back in the day, porn was your last resort as a girl, just like the military was the last resort for a guy.
And, you know, not to, you know, throw mud on the military or whatever, but that's just, you know, I know growing up, I was like, damn, if I can't make it, then I'm just going to join the military, right?
And I know back in the day, porn was just the hottest, the hottest porn star was like a middle-aged woman, 35, who worked at the grocery store, right?
But now, guys are getting bugged because they're seeing the beautiful girl next door doing porn.
So in their head, they're like, oh, you know, it's just a shock.
So I think that's why everybody cares about porn nowadays is because it's beautiful girls doing it versus average, you know, grocery store bag ladies doing it.
Yeah, because it's like a girl they could have dated, right?
Or married.
Yeah, exactly.
So it ruins their illusion.
Like, you know, I'm not an innocent man.
I ain't going to lie.
I'm sorry.
But I've seen some beautiful girls, and I'm like, man, that's, you know, you could be doing something else, but you're doing this.
Like, you couldn't better yourself.
Like, damn.
But at the end of the day, I had to realize that they are an adult just like me and they are capable of their own choices.
So I'm not going to, I'm sorry to check it out, but I don't know how to answer that.
Because on one hand, I do see him as a bad dude, but then I would have to see the guy who invented the internet as a bad guy.
And I had to see the guy who made the gun as a bad guy.
You know, at the end of the day, it's just a tool.
And it's us people.
We live in an evil world at the end of the day.
So we just have to accept it.
Like, and not to be a Bible thumper, but there's a verse at the in Revelations.
The John is talking to Jesus or somebody.
He's like, hey, well, let me go back to earth and tell everybody what's going on.
And Jesus or the angel was like, why?
If you're going to be holy, be holy.
And if you're not, then forget about it.
And a lot of people like to think that God's going to keep the door open forever.
But no, even he said, he's like, hey, this is going to shut one day.
So, you know, do what you're trying, what you will.
But I'm not going to keep talking to y'all.
I already did all the work.
So it's up to us now.
Rodolfo, say after me, St. Leonid Rudvinsky.
It paused for a second, so I don't know what happened.
Oh, I said, I said, Rodolfo, repeat after me.
You ready?
Saint Leonid Radvinsky.
I'm sorry, Doug, I can't hear you.
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Oh, okay.
Never mind.
All right.
Well, thanks for calling in.
You're a great caller.
That was great.
So I would have let him stay on, but he's got to fix his audio.
Okay.
Zombie.
You guys can hear me, right?
Hey, guys.
Hey, Gallon.
Hey, Pearl.
I can hear you.
Fine.
Welcome to the show, zombie.
Do you think Lenoid was the hero or the villain and why?
I think he purely did it for a business thing.
No one starts a business thinking of anyone else but to make money.
And yeah, I say good luck to him.
I'm not a fan of OnlyFans.
I'm just putting it out there.
I think society has gone down the gurgler, if you ask me.
Because I think respect has gone out the window the last 30 or 40 years.
And society's let things like this become the norm.
And I wanted to touch on a couple of things that Sean said because he was 100% correct.
One of the things the guys go to these places for is not just for the sex part, but they want more from like the emotional connection from they're not getting in the real world.
And I mean, how many times do you talk to prostitutes and that?
And they go, oh, the guy paid me 300 bucks, but he just wanted to talk.
You know what I mean?
And I think men miss that in a relationship as well.
And a lot of men do seem to be lonely.
And I think that that's a big problem in society because women are, a lot of women are looking at relationships as transactional.
And it's a matter of what they get out of it and what they can get out of it.
And yeah, that's basically, yeah, I think that's a big problem in society now.
You go back 40 or 50 years and people used to get married for love, but it's more me, me, me now.
You know, with the disagree with that.
I don't think that people got married to love 50 years ago.
Yeah, yeah, they did.
They did.
I mean, and they used to work.
Maybe men did.
Women have always been in business, always.
Men have been in love, women have been in business, period.
Yeah, but you have a look at some of the older photos.
I'll give you an example.
If you look at the queen when she was with Prince Philip, there's one photo there.
She was looking at him and she was like in her 80s or something.
And she still had that look in her eye that she really loved him.
You can tell when a woman loves you.
You can tell with the way she looks at you when she's not, when you're not looking at her.
And that's what they used to do.
And I think that's missing in society now, you know?
And yeah.
Because back then it was used to try, try, try.
And there was no such thing as divorce.
You used to try until it worked.
Divorce was a last-ditch effort back then.
But now it's like a divorce is a first option.
If that was true, then why was the divorce rate so high in the 70s?
Like those are women born that are got married.
That's when feminism came in.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Yeah, but if they were in love, it wouldn't have mattered if feminism was there or not.
Well, the thing is, back then, men were pricks as well.
I'm not saying one side was better than the other.
But the thing was that, see, compromise, if you haven't got compromise in the relationship, then it's not going to work because no one's perfect.
No one's perfect.
And I think the tolerance for that is a lot less now.
For men or women or both?
I think a bit of both.
Because, like I said, men want to be happy.
You know, I mean, that's all we want to do.
We want peace.
No, we don't want to be happy, bro.
Men, we don't get to be happy.
We want to be satisfied.
We want to be compensated.
We want something with tangible outcomes and tangible benefits.
Happiness, not men.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Not all men are like that.
You can't paint all men like that.
Men want to be happy.
They want peace.
They want to be happy.
They want to be, like I said, satisfied?
Exactly.
But they want to be in a good relationship.
And they don't want the bad.
There's a lot of bad relationship.
I was in a sexist marriage for about the last three years.
And then I ended it.
But I think respect, once respect goes out the window, then everything else goes out the window as well.
I just think that women had to be with men.
That's why they married them.
Women never really loved men because as soon as they got no far divorced, all of them went running for the hills.
Like I said earlier, women's nature is to have children, but not to be with a man unless it serves their purpose.
Period.
I don't think love really had anything to do with it.
Yeah, I think a small percentage, maybe.
Yeah, I think a big part of that is, yeah, women do want to feel safe, they want to feel supported in a relationship, but you got to get back to the cool roots.
People do want to be in love still, you know.
It's just that the California women, okay.
You can download Hinge or Tinder and go on a date every single day as a woman.
I could do that for two years straight.
Yeah.
If women wanted to, they'd do it.
Like, do you think as a man wanted to find love and you could go on a date every single day, you could do it?
Like, do you really want to do that, though?
What?
But the thing is, do you really want to do that?
Yeah.
Like, women do it all the time.
Yeah, but if you ever see a woman like trying to find a boyfriend, they, I'm telling you.
Oh, yeah.
Their standards are so high.
I understand that.
But I think a lot.
And also, too, you've got to be careful out there now.
There is a lot of weed eyes as well.
Women don't care about their safety because if they did, they wouldn't solo travel.
They wouldn't like all the time.
Women just say that.
You got to stop believing women.
Yeah.
85% of solo travelers from the United States to other countries are women.
Women will say if the United States isn't safe, but then go to Delhi, India alone.
They go out at night.
Like women don't value their safety at all.
They get like they like last-minute resistance is something PUAs have to teach like guys because women get naked in front of a man and change their mind.
Yeah.
I think with women.
Yeah, I think with women, they expect their safety to be a route.
And it's not.
It's like it's not a right for anyone to be safe.
But they think, you know, it's their right to be safe.
You know, and when you're going out, it doesn't matter who you are, man or woman.
If you're in the wrong part of town and it's late at night, I mean, you're asking for trouble.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for calling in.
This is a great appreciate it.
Okay.
Let's bring in wait before actually I do.
Sean, did you have something you wanted to say about that?
I just saw you ringing your hand.
Sorry.
I'm just men are in love.
Women are in business.
100%.
You know, that just showed that.
Like, geez, Louise.
But go ahead, Sean.
Yeah, I mean, I noticed all the guys from Australia seem to be simps for whatever reason.
I don't know if they have feminist governments down there or what, but all these guys defending Candace Owens or talking about this, that, and the other about women just want to be loved.
That's absolutely ridiculous.
Like, if you look at the history of how men and women interacted, women did not even want to spend time with men until they decided it was in their interest.
So it's absolutely ridiculous to say otherwise.
And, you know, what I was kind of saying in the chat is, you know, the vast majority of women today, and I've actually talked to women and I've actually asked them this honestly.
And many of them, if you talk to them one-on-one, they'll agree that the vast majority of them, the reason why their standards are high is that they're happy with their current social life of partying, doing what they want until their friends start leaving them and start getting married and things like that.
And then they only really want to settle down if it's in their best interests.
So unless you have money or you're very attractive looking next to them on social media, etc., right?
That's the only time they'll want to settle down.
And even then, they're going to get tired after five to seven years.
Even then, if you get even older, women, I've asked like women in their, like, there's one woman I'm thinking of, she's in her 50s.
And honestly, she was so good looking when she was younger, even in her 50s.
Like she gets asked out all the time by like older men, obviously, but like still, right?
She still is a good amount of choice for a woman in her 50s.
And I ask her about dating and like her biggest thing too is she doesn't want to give up time with her kids.
She doesn't want to give up time.
Like it's kind of the same thing that you're describing.
It's even women in their 50s, like after they're divorced feel like that.
100%.
And the way I know this for sure is I've created fake dating profiles on Hinge for guys like that are in their mid to late 30s of like a very attractive guy.
Like I take social media pictures from guys that I know who live in totally different states, who I know are objectively tall, good looking, good jobs, very attractive.
And there'll be women in their late 40s, early 50s who are trying to match and being flirtatious with, you know, this sort of character that I've created, which kind of tells you that all the stuff that they say they want, they don't care for.
They're looking for that feeling they had in their 20s, even when they're in their late 40s and 50s.
And so this idea that women mature and all this stuff, this is absolutely ridiculous.
I knew it was cooked when I had to DD for my grandma when I was in high school.
And because I got like grounded.
So I had to live with my grandma for a month.
Long story, different day.
But I ended up like being her designated driver because she liked to drink.
And we went to this karaoke bar and I'm there.
No one thinks about that women start dating again after their husbands die.
So it was all the widowed like women in their like 60s and 70s talking about dating.
They still date.
And it was kind of the same thing you're describing.
And I remember being like 17 or 16 and thinking, they sound like me and my friends.
Like they sound exactly like me and my friends talking about boys sound.
And they're in their 70s.
100%.
Exactly.
After they're divorced or after they're, you know, widowed, it's like they go revert back to their 20s and they're looking to fool around and chase excitement with younger men.
And they may not talk about it publicly because they care about their social image more than men would care.
Men just kind of say what they're doing without little thought to it.
Women still care about their reputation.
They understand it has value whether they're in their 20s or 70s, but they want to chase that high.
They haven't changed that much even as they get older.
The only difference is as they get older, they have more of a realistic expectation of what they'll likely be able to settle down with versus what they'll be able to have short-term fun and escapades with.
I don't even, I don't even know if it's realistic then either.
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I'm going to be honest, just based on what they were saying.
The other thing too, that's funny when you talk to women dating in their 60s and 70s is they'll go on dates and the men will die.
So they're little, they're, they'll literally get, and that was one of the things they were complaining about.
She's like, oh, yeah, I really liked this guy, but then he got cancer and died.
Yeah.
Created a part of that.
I'm going to add one last thing.
So like the transaction part of women has evolved along with this whole feminism because guys, a woman will want to be with a guy when she wants to settle down, but then she'll also be with a guy.
Okay, women want all the things that make them independent.
So they want to buy a house, have all these assets and stuff, but they'll be broke.
And they'll want to be with a guy to fund their lifestyle.
So you have a woman who's broke, but then the guy has to provide all of the extras in life.
And as long as you're giving her trips, the handbags she can't afford and stuff, she'll be there for you.
Welcome to the show, Alex.
Do you think Lenoid is a hero or the villain?
Saint Leonid Redvinsky.
This isn't about whether he's, and it's not even about Leonid at all.
It's about whether your worldview can handle the billion-dollar business built on something you fundamentally believe is wrong, which is what, you know, which is what a lot of Christians are going to say.
They're going to say, well, I guess they can't say on the one hand, the market decides everything.
And then on the other hand, suddenly want to regulate shit when the product makes them feel uncomfortable.
So for the people on the right, they typically are going to believe in pure capitalism.
And then OnlyFans screws up their worldview because OnlyFans is a perfect market.
It's voluntary.
It's direct to consumer.
There's no middlemen.
So for me, I call out the Christian right-wing people who say, I believe in markets, but only the ones I approve of morally.
Well, and why don't they, why don't they demand arranged marriage then?
Because that's the only way it goes away.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I'm not going to argue for arranged marriage.
I've got a daughter and a son, so I hope they get to make their own choice.
But I hope both of my kids are able to make a choice not based on anything more than what they really want.
Because both of my kids are, you know, they're going to be pretty well financially thanks to dad doing okay in his life.
That's almost worse because when then the daughter doesn't have to marry for money at all.
So she can go for like a salsa instructor, like, you know, a streamer.
She could get a clavicular stream.
Because, you know, when you give women choice, even the best women, like there are women from good families in good towns that are on Cloud's stream going home with him.
You know?
Yeah, but I don't think that means they're good people.
Just because someone's, you know, comes from a good family.
And I'll say this for myself, you know, just because my kids come from a good family doesn't mean my kids are good people.
Hopefully they are.
They make good choices.
You know, both of my kids are respectful of their time and the people they spend time with.
And I think that's hopefully they continue to do that as they get older.
Right.
But you understand what I'm saying.
Like if you don't arrange it, she's going to go for Chad.
It'll either be college Chad, city Chad.
It's going to be a Chad.
Women never don't go for Chad.
It's just going to be a, like, hopefully it's a Chad that likes her back, right?
But she's, made some mistakes.
And luckily, I'm there because she's a teenager.
I'm able to pick her up and help her realize that some of her dating choices have been dumb.
Always, forever.
Well, there you go.
I mean, I think.
But it's just interesting.
You don't like, you're still saying, and I don't like, I'm not one way or the other, but it's just interesting because the thing that would get rid of this is arranged marriage where you would make the choice for her.
You know?
Yeah.
Hey, I've, I've got some very wealthy clients of mine, actually a couple of my partners in my private equity fund.
They've got, they've got some, some cool kids.
Maybe, maybe that should be the next thing I do is I'll roll into Wall Street next week and suggest an arranged marriage with myself and my partner's kids.
Yeah, that's smart.
See, that's at least like, that's at least a plan, you know.
And also, I remember, so I don't have any kids, but I remember coaching Greg Adams on that, on that podcast where Hafees was crashing out.
That one, his producer, I forgot her name, the young girl, was like, so Greg Adams, you're saying all this red pill stuff, but you have a daughter, right?
What does she think about what she's saying?
He's like, yes, she watches my concert.
I tell her everything.
So what would you tell her about this whole thing?
He said, I wouldn't tell her anything.
You want to know why?
Because she's a teenager.
And anything I tell her to do, she's going to do the exact opposite.
Yeah.
So, I don't tell her anything.
She's going to have to get burned enough times.
And when she comes back and says, Dad, I need some advice.
She'll actually listen.
But until then, she's going to do the exact opposite of everything I tell her to do.
And a lot of times, when it comes to fathers and daughters, that's exactly what happens.
But I think that putting her in a room with some like rich Chads, not a bad idea.
I don't think that's just 10 little chads there.
Sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Alex.
I think you're muted.
Oh, where'd he go?
No, he had a call, probably.
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Okay.
Well, Matt, welcome to the show.
What's up, homie?
What do you think of the topic?
Is Lenoid the hero or the villain?
Villain.
Okay, why?
You're the one that gave me the idea.
I want to see 25 million men jacked on testosterone go absolutely insane and just wipe out society.
Just like a 10-day fast.
What happens to your body when you clean up?
All right.
Politicians would be scared.
Law enforcement would be scared.
Three-letter agencies would collapse.
And then finally, rebirth would be a wonderful, wonderful thing.
So you overcome the pain of it.
Okay.
So you're saying get rid of the OnlyFans and give them testosterone.
I think get rid of all of it or anything that porn just so that way it holds builds up testosterone and tension in men that they just go insane and clean up.
And then I think you would have a much cleaner society after everything's been burned to the ground because now you can rebuild.
What do you guys think about that?
They're gonna MPA, Sean.
Too many guys are simped, dude.
That's never gonna happen.
Well, he'll pull them out of simply simp mode real quick.
I'm telling you right now, when I was in the forces, I got gassed, I got tased, you name it.
And I'm telling you, when you haven't had sex in 20 years, none of that bothers you.
You don't even feel it.
There's a simpidemic dude.
Larry Wheels, you see this guy simping for his wife?
Oh, dude, it's bad.
You can't.
I don't know if the muscle would really look at this.
I'm telling you, all those soy boys, they're going to be insane.
I mean, this dude is like the most jacked dude, and he simps.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's all I'm about to say.
Most guys in the military, I've been in the forces, especially all of that.
They're simps.
Like, all that jackness.
It just makes them a simp.
Like, yeah, some of the greatest leaders of men are it's not even them.
Like, you're not taking orders from the general.
You're taking orders from his wife.
From your shorty.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I would agree with that like 100%.
And the reason why it's just those, all those jack guys you're seeing there take away all their porn, all their magazines, all of it.
Take it all away and then make sure that their wives haven't screwed them in years.
And then I'm telling you, they're going to stop being simp and then catch them in the act while they're doing it.
That way they can't continue because it's humiliating.
And they'll just, the tension will just build and just build and just build.
Look how many military guys have been cheated on while they're on deployment and still get remarried.
Yeah.
Still get remarried.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look at the military culture, dude.
When it comes to wives and all that stuff, yeah, it's brutal, dude.
I think the military unintentionally creates this because it gives them this sort of patriarchal, like, you know, manly, you know, what you see in media, which is men need to man up and stand up for their country even when they get their nuts kicked in.
And, you know, they're taught to do that in the military to basically, you know, be willing to, you know, land on the grenade and stuff like that to save their people around them.
And then, you know, when they go back home, they do the same thing with women because they see them as something to protect, given that that's what they've been fed their entire lives, only to be then screwed over by the person who they're with when they wouldn't have been, you know, screwed over by, you know, their, you know, the guy who's by their flank or what have you that's on their team.
And so this sort of perpetuates the simpness in the military unintentionally, although be it.
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Yeah, some of the words.
Simping is about a few things.
It's about a scarcity mindset.
Like, this is my only chance.
It's about a validation seeking, you know, where you tie your own self-worth to female approval.
It's about this digital distortion, the concept that, you know, the platforms reward attention and no reciprocity.
It's about low boundaries.
So not having internal rules about for yourself, about effort versus return and a status asymmetry.
So where, you know, guys will chase someone far outside their own social relationship tier.
So because it's not just about behavior, in my opinion, it's about a psychological and structural loop that ends up happening.
And at the individual level, you know, I think there needs to be a simple rule installed, which is no investment without reciprocity.
No money, no gifts, no excessive attention unless interest is clearly mutual.
And so I think that is the problem.
If it's one-sided, it's not a strategy.
It's a leak.
And guys keep doing that shit.
I guess you got me there.
Yeah.
Well, good try, Matt.
Thanks for calling in.
Okay.
I'm going to bring up.
I'm going to bring up this guy's waiting a while.
Welcome to the show, man versus dating.
Is Leonoid the hero or the villain?
I think he is a hero.
Can I explain to you why?
Yeah, go ahead.
I think for a man to have passed from prostate cancer, leaving a legacy for people in 2018 to decide whether it is their decision to sign up for this.
I would say it's an industry, right?
It's just something that allows, you know, people to connect together.
Like, you know, if you follow someone on TikTok or something like that, do you believe that as well?
Or do you believe he's no hero?
Because I believe he's a hero because he created a website to help others make money off content.
Yeah, we're calling him a saint here.
We're going to statue.
I mean, dating is an easy man.
Cool.
Well, do you have any other thoughts on the topic?
Yeah.
Was he married?
He was.
Yeah.
He was.
We just definitely do some media coverage on how she feels because remember, it's not just the person that passed, but his family as well.
But they're not going to because he was really, really private.
He was really private.
He did a lot.
He did a lot.
Do you think that his company is going to be sold to Elon Musk?
I don't think so.
I don't know.
He said he wants to buy it if it falls off.
Okay.
Well, maybe.
Well, thanks for calling in.
I appreciate it.
Okay.
Alex, what were we talking about with Alex before he dropped his daughter chasing Chads?
Yeah, no, no.
He's talking about him actually brokering the deal, which I thought was actually sophisticated and smart.
But see what I'm talking about?
Arranged Marriages for Kids00:11:41
Men just become a backseat driver in a couple of instances because they don't want to ruffle a couple of feathers.
You got to grab your testicular fortitude and lead.
At the end of the day, as you said, Pearl, people are still going to do whatever they want to do.
But I just think a lot of men across the board, like we got dudes who just want to crash out society, everybody get mad and mass delete everybody.
And then that would like, what are we talking about, babe?
Like, is it really that bad?
I think if I had a daughter, I think if I had a daughter, I'd find 10 chads.
I'd find 10 that would be down.
And if she said no to all of them, I'd be like, well, I tried.
Good luck.
Have fun.
There you go.
Get exiled.
Take you off the damn deed.
I'd give you, I'd give you 10 to pick for our five, whatever it is, right?
I'd find like 10 guys where I know the family.
There's nothing wrong with them.
They're good enough for how hot my daughter is.
And I'll be realistic.
I'm so tired of these dads telling their daughters they deserve the world.
It's like, she really, this is a mid-daughter.
She deserves like average.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And dads are the problem, though.
Dads are the problem a lot of times because dads treat their girls like princesses.
They're the one that introduced them to the craziness at the end of the day.
So mamas treat their sons like mama boys and they don't develop.
And fathers treat their daughters like daddy little princess and they don't develop.
Dads don't say, hey, look, if you with your man and he pays the bill, you know, fixes duck is sick.
They don't say that.
They'd be like, he should treat you like a princess.
He should, if he treats you less than I treat you, then you should leave him.
That's a whole entirely different relationship.
You know what I'm saying?
The daughter comes from his ball sack.
I'm putting mine inside her.
It's an entirely different construct.
I'm with her for different reasons.
He's with her for different reasons.
So we're not the same.
I try to at least tell the girls I'm with, like, I'm not your damn father.
I'm something different.
And the relationship we have, you better not see it like that because it's not.
And the other thing, too, is whenever the daughter gets, you know, because women go for Chad, get pumped and dumped, repeat.
And it's never the daughter's fault.
It's never, you're not hot enough to be demanding that.
Or it's never, it's always like, oh, he just wanted sex.
It's like, well, yeah, but even Chad's called the best bitches back.
Like, even Chad's, like, there are girls they call back.
So there's either a deficit in you, and it could be your looks or your personality.
We got to figure out which it is.
It's always like the Chad wasn't good enough.
It's like, well, you know, Chad's, they do call the best, the best girls back.
And sometimes it's just not you.
So you talk about misconceptions.
You're muted, Alex.
I don't know if you're talking, but I'm not saying this all applies to you, by the way.
We're just talking in general.
In the circles you grew up in, because I think that TV has these mess up where people think that just because you're a girl from a rich family, that you're automatically attractive.
That's not true, right?
Most rich girls are mid to like average to ugly.
Yeah.
I mean, I think more like, because it's not the wealthy men that really have the hottest wives.
It's the men with the most Riz.
Like men care about money more than women.
Like women care about Riz.
So, or Riz and like being good looking.
So like, if anything, I would say richer men have more midwives.
The rich, I'm around.
What about daughters?
I'm around country.
Well, that influences how hot the kids are.
Yeah, the quality of attractiveness of the wife.
So, but I'm around country rich people.
Like, that's who I grew up around.
City rich is more status-based.
So I would guess city-rich people are a slightly better looking wife if I had to guess.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like the Trumps of the world, like that kind.
People in city typically are going to be more physically in shape than people in the country.
So I think that's, and also you're pulling from a larger pool in the city just because you have more contact with more people.
And so if you're growing up in the country, you're just going to have fewer, as a, let's say, you're a wealthy dude, you're going to have fewer women to be able to choose from.
But I like the idea of actually being able to, I don't know, but control, like do an arranged marriage for my kids, but introducing my kids to a pool of higher caliber people.
And going back to what you were saying about, you know, dads not, you know, thinking that their daughters deserve the world.
My daughter does not deserve the world.
My daughter deserves what she works for and what she earns, just like my son deserves what he works for and what he earns.
And if he doesn't, and this is why I'm actually not paying for my kids' first year of college, they're going to pay for their first year of college and then I'll evaluate based on what they put in what I'm going to contribute.
Anyway, those are those are just kind of my thoughts.
Yeah.
Yeah, because then it's like, at least you give her the choice, you know, and that if she doesn't take it, it's, that's her own fault.
Then she's too picky, right?
What would you do, Sean, if you had a daughter?
How would you prepare her to like, like, how would you try to get her to not be a whore?
Good luck.
I read the Bible.
I read the Bible and got the message.
You guys are not going.
I mean, bro, I read the Bible and I got the message.
God gave Eve the information.
She disavowed him and did what she did when that snake had the res.
The snake had the ultimate res.
So at the end of the day, even over God's Riz, that's crazy.
But nah, NetNet, at the end of the day, I would just call it a lost loss.
Like, it's either she does this or she doesn't.
And if she doesn't, then she gets excommunicated.
And I just keep it pushing.
I know it sounds barbaric, but it sounds pretty traditional to me.
There used to be consequences for not falling according to what the family wanted.
So at the end of the day, I'll just have to uphold it.
And it's okay.
She can do as she pleases.
I'm not really tripping either.
So that's the one way prep.
And I think, I don't know if he said, like, yeah, you got to indirectly do it.
You can't give her around some, you know, guys that have money and good families and they're dorks and they never been through anything.
So I have to go out and get that edgy guy too.
That's kind of like a hybrid of all that.
And I think that's a little bit better.
You can't, you know what I'm saying?
You can't just bring the guy and he got the glasses upside down.
He's with rich families.
She ain't going to want that because now he's almost more like his daddy.
Like she's like, oh, you're like my dad.
Get out of here.
Like all young women are brats to some degree.
So he's just going to make her a brat because he doesn't know how to tell her no.
You know what I mean?
He's got no, a lot of the dorky got like they're dorky because they're not assertive.
I don't know how to say no.
And then plus they're probably called cap.
Like, you got married to mom.
You, you a beta anyways.
I see that.
But no, no, but it's either, okay.
So most guys, even if they're rich, are going to end up beta.
But like the mom is going to try to say face and tell the daughter to be attracted to everything that's opposite of what the dad did to get her before he turned it.
He turned beta.
Yeah, that's so true.
Oh my gosh.
You know what?
My mom, she said not to date, like when I was a freshman, like don't date any boys that are seniors.
My dad was a senior when my mom was a freshman.
I'm like, why would you?
Yeah, do as I say.
No, not as I do.
Yeah, and I remember she told me not to get a boyfriend in high school.
And I'm like, mom, like you dated, what the fuck?
I'm like, yeah, that's that's sorry.
When you said that, I just thought of like five things my mom told me that she did.
And it actually got her married for 30 years.
That's so true.
But yeah, well, you know, only RP the Great.
Yeah, the backless head check, you know, he homeboy created a service.
Once again, I never, I never would have thought that free corn would have led to parasocial relationships and all that, but here we are.
But here's the thing: you know, guys, you know, if ultimately, they always talk about how much money men spend on OnlyFans, but it doesn't even compare to the amount of money that women spend on everything else.
Let the guys have their, I'm to the point, let the guys have their only, what I spend money on it.
No, but women spend money on all sorts of crazier stuff.
So that's a great point.
That's a great point.
I never thought of that.
This is why you guys are great callers.
I'm going to bring Sean back up.
Sean, do you want to give your final thoughts?
I'm talking to MAGA, Sean.
Yeah, I was like, right.
I was like, let me talk to you quietly.
And then Irish can go next.
But yeah, go ahead.
Hey, men, I'll say this.
Protect your right to get the box.
Anybody that's trying to convince you that it should be cheaper, it should be holier than now, that you need to, you know, exchange a ring in order to get it.
Guys, you don't want that.
If you think women are dictators in this current marketplace, imagine what they'll be when you raise the price on the box.
Imagine what they'll do.
Imagine the power they have over you when there's no more pros, there's no more prawn, and you're thirsty as all ever outdoors.
They'll be able to charge you whatever.
It doesn't make sense in economics, the sexual marketplace.
If you give them that much power, they will abuse it.
It's ridiculous.
Remember, Pearl, if you used to have, let's say, sex with a woman and you didn't marry her, what did her dad do?
Go get a shotgun, put it into your back, and force you to marry.
And you're like, dang, I was just trying to get jiggy.
You don't want that world where dudes will just blast you because you dishonored their daughters.
That's when the box was sacred.
So, guys, I love the free market.
Shout outs to the big homie, the hero.
He died a legend.
LR.
All day.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling in, Sean.
Okay, we're going to go to Sean.
Sorry, I'm still a little sick.
Go ahead, Sean.
Yeah.
So, you know, to all the men out there, I want you to remember what true love, the kind of love that women actually want, has nothing to do with marriage.
And the way to really remember from your childhood is if you look at DC Comics and you look at Harley Quinn and you look at The Joker.
Harley Quinn was his therapist who went absolutely crazy for Joker, would do absolutely anything for him, including break him out for prison, including, you know, be his sidekick and do all this crazy stuff.
And Joker never married her, not even once throughout the entire story arc that lasted decades.
And that is a very clear example that women do not care about marriage if they truly love you.
They want to be with you because they want to be with you.
And it's simply that.
And they will do all sorts of crazy things in order to be with you.
And the kind of women that force you to give them commitment are the kind of women that are telling you to your face the 99.99%, which is this is a business.
Harley Quinn and Love00:02:21
Those are my thoughts.
Thanks for calling in, Sean.
Alex, feel free to give your final thoughts.
You're a great caller.
Thank you for calling in.
Feel free to call in anytime.
Leonard, Leonard didn't change human nature.
He built the most efficient machine we've ever seen to monetize it.
So, whether you monetize him or sorry, whether you admire him or whether you hate him, it says more about your worldview than it does say anything about him.
Wow.
Great point.
Thanks for calling in, Alex.
We are great callers today.
I love my callers.
They always bring such good points that I've never thought of.
I feel like I learn equally as much from the callers as you guys learn from me.
Like, I really feel like you guys always bring in such good points that I just never thought of.
Like, Doug MPA, I'm going to use that.
The women spend money on everything else.
Yeah.
Honestly, like men spend 15% of the money.
Okay.
The 15% of money that men spend spend.
Cars, guns, OnlyFans, video games, beer.
Yeah.
It's like 10 things.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Women, it's me.
We'll be here all day.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks for the commentary, Doug MPA.
A pleasure as always.
Great show, my friend.
All right, guys.
I'm still coming back from being sick, so sorry if I'm coughing a little bit.
I think I'm pretty much over it.
I got sick Thursday last week was when it started.
So it's about a week.
Trying to think of what else.
I'm going to have a second camera.
I wouldn't hook up, but I have a second camera set that's for the piano.
So it's less in the way in guitar, which will be kind of cool.
But anyways, guys, thanks for watching.
I love you guys.
And I'm going to see you next show, probably tomorrow, usually around this time.