Brett Cooper and others like Savannah F. Stone and Rachel Wilson face backlash for using engagement rings—some worth six figures—as performative clout, despite claims of traditional values. Pearl Davis mocks their "e-girl war" tactics, citing Sarah Stock’s alleged infidelity fallout, while criticizing Nick Fuentes’ Catholic-branded hypocrisy. The debate highlights a disconnect between online personas and real-life authenticity, framing influencer culture as a shallow spectacle where privacy and sincerity are sacrificed for attention. [Automatically generated summary]
I feel like I feel like if anybody should get a pass, I should.
What's up, Mike?
And I'll write a song with it.
What's up, my right now?
What's up, my?
How you been?
What's up, my?
Can we stop playing pretend that I've been through it?
Hold on.
I could go here.
Okay.
Please stop with the ending.
Please tell me that you still want me.
Those is horn eyes Thank you so much for tuning in.
Tired of Losers00:05:43
I'm almost done with my piano book, book two, so I can kind of play in that chord progression.
Before you tell me that I need auto-tune, I need you to show me your skills.
What can you sing?
I'm so tired of losers talking to me.
Do you know what it's like being me?
Look, I'm not pretending to be the most intelligent person in the world, but I'm a productive person for a woman, right?
For a woman, not for a man, for a woman.
Like, I've learned piano.
I know guitar.
I can sing a little bit.
I have a YouTube business.
I'm at the gym every day.
And I just realized that I've spent so much of my life having to listen to losers.
Losers.
And I'm supposed to take into account their opinion.
Like, somebody sent me a clip and was like, Destiny was talking shit about you.
And I'm like, why would I care what Destiny thinks?
That's a loser.
He's like fat and he just stares at a screen all day.
He was in an open relationship, which blew up in his face.
Why would I care about like the opinion of losers?
And a lot of times people will say, Pearl, how do you deal with, you know, the criticism you get?
And I'm like, well, they're fat.
You know what I mean?
like, well, I mean, I'm not really going to take any advice on anything from a fat person.
And Destiny, I feel the same way.
Like, it's one thing, you know, I can talk to losers, but there has to be humility in the fact that they're losers, right?
Like, if you're a loser, it's supposed to come with humility.
It's like, it's kind of like the blue collar men, and they're definitely not losers.
I'm not saying that.
Don't clip me out of context.
Don't whatever.
But they always come with a sense of humility because the world just treated them like they weren't shit.
But I realized a lot of people just, they've been treated like they're the shit, but they're losers.
I just can't.
And, you know, I've been doing a lot of deep thinking lately.
And I think the more you can tune out losers, just the better off you're being.
And I'm getting to that age.
I'm like, I was never supposed to know what your opinion was.
I was never supposed to hear it.
You know, like I didn't even, someone sent me this message and I didn't even watch it.
That's how little I cared.
And, you know, people will send me hit pieces, like essay videos on me, and it'll be a fat chick talk.
And I'm like, what do I care what an obese woman has to say?
Not even chubby, because I think that like life can get away from people.
People get chubby.
That happens.
Like 20, 30.
It doesn't mean you're a loser if you're like 20 pounds overweight.
Okay.
But it does mean you're a loser if you're like 100 pounds overweight.
i mean that i really just cannot take your opinion on anything seriously because you don't even have the willpower to close your mouth and i do feel that way a little bit about about brett cooper right um not Not that I think she's a full loser, right?
But it's incredible to me that we take her opinion seriously on anything because she's like 22, right?
But the internet, it inflates people's egos, you know.
The fact that a 22-year-old actress thinks she has the right to lecture anybody on anything ever is kind of incredible to me.
My BMI?
I'm about 20 to 21% body fat.
Depends on the day.
It's pretty good, actually.
It's pretty good.
I kind of want to get down to 19 or 18%.
I'll hit it.
But yeah, you know, now he's gonna, he's gonna tell me, I don't know.
Well, how do I ban it?
Can I ban people on Twitter?
See what I mean?
It's like, I'm not even supposed to hear these people's opinions.
I'm really not.
I am not supposed to hear your opinion.
No, I do censor on my show.
I'm not.
Not going to be one of those people that pretends that I don't censor.
I censor stupid opinions.
Like this random guy, he thinks he knows my body fat.
Censoring Stupid Opinions00:02:20
And I did.
You see what I mean?
It's like, well, losers, losers.
Do you know what?
I did do something kind of, you guys like the bangs.
I cut them myself and I think I messed them up.
I think I messed up the bangs.
I don't know.
I think I did him wrong.
I decided I'm going to start cutting my own hair.
I'm going to start cutting my own hair because I got it done the other day and I just felt like I felt like it was overpriced.
And I'm like, I could do this.
So, so, you know, it's just, it's just incredible.
Black fatigue.
Anyways, but I was talking about losers.
And I think the best ability is just being able to tune out people that, you know, shouldn't have platform.
Really, everyone but like white guys.
So it's like kind of incredible to me that I was thinking about how hypocritical.
I think Brett Cooper, this clip, I haven't seen it yet, but apparently she's criticizing Clavicular for his looks maxing.
And I just thought it was incredible for a woman.
Like, I've been in the Daily Wire studios.
They would wear a pound of makeup on before every show.
They had a hair stylist, a makeup stylist.
I just thought, how can you say anything to men about anything?
It's just incredible to me.
Incredible.
Okay, let me.
You like the bangs?
Well, the problem is I never, I'm always too lazy to go in every day because I just, I don't like sitting there.
And so if I could just figure out how to do it myself, I might get a few bad haircuts in the mix.
Outrage and Context00:06:12
But we'll see.
Here, let's go here.
let me grab the link i don't know i've Whatever it may be.
I've decided that I have to learn how to do every beauty thing myself because of feminism.
They're just going to keep upping the prices and we're just going to keep buying it.
So everything's going to get to be overpriced.
But it's incredible to me that even me, I don't know why I was ever on Pierce Morgan, but they're always going to put in unqualified women who don't know they're unqualified.
So let me, let me go.
Okay.
Raging away.
Like, this is the end of the world because Bad Bunny, you know, said something about ICE, which, by the way, ICE has not had a great month.
You know, let's just be crystal clear.
You know, there are some things that ICE does I agree with, but when you're shooting American citizens in the streets, it's probably not great for the image of ICE.
You're allowed to be as an American as Bad Bunny is.
You're allowed to be pissed off about that.
A lot of people were.
I was.
And you should be able to express that under your First Amendment rights without the world caving in or without it being disqualifying for performing at the Super Bowl.
Yes.
And to further that point, you are allowed to say all of those things.
We live in the greatest country on earth, in my opinion, where you are allowed to criticize your government and speak your mind, but you are also not entitled to an audience, which why, you know, that's why it's great that the USA offered an alternative.
So if you're outraged over it, you know, turn your outrage to something positive.
Support the people who are doing something that, you know, is more in line with your values.
And it's great that there was an alternative.
And if you don't want to watch Kid Rock, there's the Puppy Bowl.
I don't know if you watch the Puppy Bowl, Pierce.
It's amazing.
You can turn on the puppy ball and you can watch the rescue dogs.
Last night's was extra depressing.
They filmed it in October, but one of the dogs was like the special needs dog that was in this one.
Where's the clavicular part?
Did I hold on?
Bad bunnies.
Hold on.
Let me see.
Brett Cooper on the Epstein.
Oh, here we go.
Clavicular.
This is what I wanted.
Okay.
Fight it.
Change your view of certain stories.
I'll give you an example.
The Epstein files.
You've been.
You guys don't want my opinion on Epstein.
I can't say it.
Society's not ready for it yet.
Society is not ready for it.
Doug MPA is going to yell at me if I say my opinion.
If I say my opinion, Doug MPA is going to know I can't say it.
I can't say.
I can't say it.
No, you know, I can't say Giselle did nothing wrong.
Giselle did nothing.
Release Giselle.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
That is not serious.
That is not.
That is not a serious.
Giselle did nothing.
No, I didn't say it.
I didn't say it.
You know.
Okay, let me.
Quite, I would say quite controversial here, but describing them as all bullshit.
But I've got to say, as a parent myself, including of a 14-year-old girl, I don't think that.
I mean, I'll play you the clip I'm talking about.
Let's take a look.
Do you see how insane that is?
Like, I feel like I've been going crazy.
There is no clarity.
There is no consensus, but everyone is telling their audience that they are certain.
And the outrage is overwhelming.
And in my opinion, it's all a bunch of bullshit, genuinely.
All right.
Well, Pierce, I mean, that comment was not about what was in the files.
It's about people's outrage and their certainty about what they're reading.
Now, I was not saying that, you know, the crimes that are, you know, the crimes that Epstein committed, the fraud that he ushered in.
I heard that all the people that went to the island had permission slips from their parents.
All right, let's keep going.
You know, allegations of him helping, you know, leaders of other governments launder money, the fact that he was, you know, teaching people in government how to leverage their political power into private sector power.
It's the fact that we have people sitting on their shows saying, I can tell you for certain that this is exactly how it is.
I've read everything.
Bullshit.
Most people have not read the three and a half million files.
I haven't.
I'm not going to lie to my audience.
And when we have people saying this confirms that Epstein is Mazad, we have B.B. Nyahu saying this confirms that he was not Mazad.
We have people saying this confirms that Donald Trump, you know, was part of this and was sleeping with young girls, but Donald Trump is saying this absolves him.
That is ridiculous.
And we're all screaming at each other when guaranteed most people yelling and saying with certainty, I know this have not read it.
That is the part that's bullshit.
And I would rather have people be honest and say, okay, so this is what I've read.
Let's take a more, you know, nuanced take of all of this.
This is what we know.
These are the things that are confirmed.
These are the things that are redacted.
These are accusations that were not verified, that were not solid enough to even be used in his can watch the entire thing.
Totally fine.
And I also know that I've been in a position where I've watched a clip and thought something, you know, that somebody said was, you know, true or certain or that this is what they meant.
And then I go and I watch the whole thing and I go, oh, I was completely incorrect about that.
And usually when that happens, I get on my show and say, hey, you know, I took the time and I learned from this, which I think is, you know, that's an example I would like to set.
So yeah, it's a lot of things get taken out of context, but that's the world we live in.
That's the nature of our job and being online and people having technology to clip.
All right, here.
Nuanced Take on Risks00:11:17
Cooper is an opportunist, a fraud, pearls-based as fuck.
Thank you.
I don't know if she's a, well, I don't like the, she sells purity, which come on, like you went to UCL.
I'm not, I'm not as dumb as the sorry.
I'm not as dumb as your simps.
Okay.
So, yeah.
It certainly is.
Now, you are a world authority on somebody called Clavicular, who I have to say hasn't brushed my life particularly.
Do you see how she smiles?
She's in love with him.
Here's the thing: when women want to bang a guy, they just can't hide it on their faces.
They cannot hide it on their faces, unfortunately.
Unfortunately, you know, he got arrested at the weekend.
First of all, who is Clavicular?
I only know him because he was in that ridiculous van with Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Sneeko, and the others in Miami.
But who is Clavicular and why has he been arrested?
All right.
So, Pierce, Clavicular is a young man.
I believe his name is Brayton, but he goes by Clavicular and he is a looks maxer.
Do you know what looks maxing is?
No.
Okay.
So obviously, Pierce does not.
Pierce wants to bang her.
That's obvious too.
Okay.
Looks maxing is this trend online where you are trying to make yourself look as physically attractive as possible.
It's just incredible how women can criticize men for looks maxing with makeup on.
It's just incredible.
It's like you can't tell men anything.
Women go under the knife and get fat moved from their stomach to their ass.
And a man hits himself in the face with a hammer and World War.
Now they have to nag him.
It's like, why don't we nag the women with BBLs?
Why don't we start there?
Nose jobs.
Blethorplasties.
BBLs.
Lip filler.
Lipo suction.
It just never ends.
And it's basically like I'm taking autonomy for my well-being and how I look.
And I'm going to try to elevate my perceived status through the way that I look.
And at the beginning, when I first saw this taking off and saw people saying they're looks maxing, like the videos are kind of, you know, cute.
It's these guys.
I will bet my life savings when she gets old enough, she will get Botox.
I would bet my entire life on it.
You know, who were maybe kind of awkward in high school.
And then over the course of a couple of years, they start to care about their skin and their style.
And they get a new haircut.
They hit the gym.
They're eating healthy.
They're looks maxing.
Clavicular takes this to the extreme here.
So, he does something, for example, um, called bone smashing, where he takes a hammer to the jaw and he believes that by fracturing, uh, doing these like minute fractures on his jaw, it allows the jaw to grow back stronger and he's able to reform it.
Um, the most hilarious thing, which I definitely made fun of on my show, is that he puts now.
You have daughters, I don't know if this is you know inappropriate to say you're also married, but there are these things called sticky boobs that women wear.
Like, if you're wearing like a strapless top, you put on like a little sticky boob bra.
He puts those on his shoulders to try to women do use padded bras, it's just incredible.
The lack of self-awareness.
You've never used a padded bra really to make himself look.
I'm not kidding, they're like chicken honey.
I'm learning so much here, Brad.
I know you're so welcome.
This is your education.
So, he puts these under his shirt, but the most egregious thing is that he very openly does drugs.
He talks about doing meth in order to help him fast so that he can lose weight.
Women are on Ozempic openly, and women, uh, like a quarter of you know, I have a friend who's a big player.
And whenever I want information on the dating market, because I've seen him in action, I know he's the real deal, not like half of the men that just cap or were in the right city.
Like, if you can't approach a woman in public, you're just not a real player.
I'm being honest here, you're just not.
Oh, no, they're gonna freak out.
Well, yeah, if you're ugly and bad at it, but if you're good at it, they just you like they do to him.
I'm just being honest here.
Um, anyways, so what he tells me is like if he looks in a girl's medicine cabinet, 50% are on some sort of drugs.
Yeah, you don't have to approach women, but like, you know, I just don't say you're something you're not then, right?
Okay, um, he takes Adderall, and these are all things that he talks about very openly.
And he is 20 years old, he is talking about using illicit, illegal drugs on his live streams every single night.
So, honestly, it's like a wonder that he has not been arrested prior to this.
And my first episode that I did about him when I discovered him is I was saying, like, you know, especially to parents, like, this is the content that your kids online are consuming.
Like, we can be able to look at this and go, This is hilarious and ridiculous, but there are people that are taking it seriously that are wanting to take his advice.
That was my concern with it, especially for young impressionable wines.
So, that's clavicular.
And the name clavicular comes from and they try to nag and tone police the internet.
The clavicle and this idea of look smacksters that having like a big, strong, prominent um clavicle is look at it's hard to approach women these days.
That's true, but I know guys that do it and get laid from doing it, so your strategy probably just sucks.
There are guys that get married from approaching women, you know what I mean?
It's like some guys have just never had the balls to do it.
Now, I can understand why they wouldn't, right?
But we just have to be honest about like what it is, you know.
We just have to be like honest.
It's like an incompetence, it's it's an incompetency or whatever.
Um, I'm not even saying I would be able to do it if I was a man, I probably wouldn't, but I hate it when people are a failure in an area of their life.
It's like fat women that say they're not fat, it's like guys that can't approach.
Um, I mean, it's just you know, something you're not able to do, which is fine.
I'm not saying you should have to do it.
Anyways, let me keep going.
Is like a sign of peak attractiveness.
So he goes by clavicular.
It's not worth it.
That's honest.
That's saying, look, my strategy, I'm just not good enough at it.
It's going to take me too long to get good at it.
I don't feel like it.
That's honest.
Or I'm too ugly.
It would never work for me.
That's honest.
Okay, it might not, you know.
So, I guess.
But yes, he was arrested.
He went to a frat party at ASU over the weekend.
And interestingly, you might find this funny, Pierce.
He's having a profile done of him by the New York Times.
And the only way that he agreed to let the New York Times do the profile was if they live streamed the entire interview on kick.
So if you go back, you can watch an entire New York Times journalist interviewing him for like hours.
And it's honestly a smart move because if they take anything out of context, he has thousands of people that were, you know, watching it on stream.
But that also is a pitfall because he was filmed.
He had a prescription pill in his pocket, and I don't think he had the prescription on him.
I don't know.
No, they're saying they call it harassment.
Well, not when the guys that are good at it do it.
I've seen ugly pickup artists.
I've seen ones that are not good looking.
So you might say, hey, it's just not worth it.
I don't even want to take that risk.
Well, then you're scared, right?
And that's the answer.
You're too scared to do it.
I understand why.
I'm not even criticizing the why, but like we got to be honest with ourselves.
You know what I mean?
Like, we just have to be honest here.
So he even has a prescription for it.
He was also using a fake ID.
They arrested him.
Now the fake ID charge has been upped to a forgery charge.
He's not allowed to leave Arizona, which is a big problem for him, Pierce, because he was.
You know what?
Sometimes guys that say that remind me a little bit of.
They'll say, you're not a man.
It's like, well, I know.
I'm not saying I could do it, but I'm saying I know men that do do it successfully.
I can understand not wanting to risk it.
That completely makes sense or it's not worth it.
No, I'm not saying what they should and shouldn't do.
No, I'm just saying we just gotta, I know guys that can do it and they're successful.
Am I supposed to not know them?
Am I supposed to not?
Am I supposed to not see them bringing home hot women?
Oh, but they're so hot.
Some of them, yeah.
Some of them, not at all.
one of the puas that i met i i would not i do not think he's attractive i got kicked out of planet fitness Yeah.
And that's what I said.
You could be scared of the risk.
That's pretty embarrassing.
So I'm not, I'm not trying to judge you, but we just have to, you know, I don't want to take the risk of what getting good at it would take.
There's a lot of bad coaches out there.
i can understand 40 of men throughout history never mated with women What was their excuse?
Yeah, they said Chads don't get rejected.
Oh, yes, they do.
Oh, yes, they do.
You would be surprised.
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Viral Sensation and Mogging00:06:19
So he's not going to be able to do that because he's stuck in Arizona.
He's not allowed to do any drugs or be drinking.
He has to be sober.
So maybe we'll start seeing sober maxing instead of looks maxing.
So yeah, that is clavicular.
And basically overnight, he has become this viral sensation.
And the language, this is also really interesting to me.
He's basically created his own language on social media with words like clavicular and looks maxing.
And he's not really a political figure, but all of his politics are based on how attractive you are.
So you might have seen the viral.
What about this word?
Yes.
What about this other word I've heard?
Mogging.
What is your mogging?
That's what I was going to bring up: is that mogging means that you are like beating somebody with your attractiveness.
So for instance, he said he doesn't want to vote for JD Vance if he is the candidate in a couple of years because Gavin Newsom mogs JD Vance.
Gavin Newsom has.
No, I actually agree.
I don't want a fat president.
His whole reasoning is he doesn't like Vance because he's fat.
I actually agree with that.
I agree with that.
The better jawline is more in shape.
So that's what clavicular cares about.
And so there's a, there was an especially viral clip where he walked into this ASU frat party and he was on his stream and an ASU like frat leader frame mogged him.
And frame mogged apparently means that his body was, I guess, like was more in shape than claviculars.
Anyway, it's a whole thing.
It's ridiculous, Pierce.
And so if your children start saying mogged, maxing, if they start talking, FOID is another one.
It's a term for women.
Like Foids will come up to Clavicular.
It is like, it's honestly, it's incredible how quickly these viral trends can take hold and how quickly these terms can just be inserted into the lexicon.
So anyway, that's clavicular.
It's crazy.
So stay tuned.
We'll see.
I mean, my issue with all those guys.
I've interviewed Andrew Tate a number of times.
I've interviewed his brother, Tristan.
I'm interviewed Fuentu.
Look at Pierce, with your wife, the way she disrespects you publicly, you just can't say anything about anything.
I feel that way with Brett, too.
You know, the way you use your marriage and your family for clout, you just can't say anything to anybody about anything.
Yeah.
So he's obviously sneako briefly with Kenya and a kind of farcical thing.
But my issue with all of them is not that they're in their own way, they're not all quite smart because there are in a sort of street-wise smart way.
But there is a there is a line.
There's two lines that run through them all.
One is a desire just to shock for the sake of being shocking and to say things like in Fuentes' case, you know, to joke about Hitler and the Holocaust, all that kind of thing, which is the kind of behavior you expect from a 13-year-old boy at school who's trying to, you know, appeal to the class by being the class joker who thinks anything's funny.
And they never seem to grow out of it.
But secondly, there is a streak of real misogyny that runs through all of them, which I do think is really unpleasant.
And it worries me that millions of young men, boys, watch this stuff and think the kind of casual misogyny is the way to treat women.
That does concern me.
Misogyny.
Like, well, what is misogyny?
They call everything misogyny.
That's just not kissing women's ass.
It's so incredible.
No, and I think if we go back to that now infamous stream in Miami, which really blew Clavicular up in a lot of ways, there was that whole clip of, gosh, what's his name?
His name is Justin, and he's one of the friends of the Tate brothers.
And he was talking to Clavicular and telling him how he never takes women on a date.
He doesn't want to actually sit down and speak to a woman.
And then there's another clip where he's like, you know, you don't want to engage with hoes.
Yeah.
So again, this is what you get with mids, right?
I was asking, I was asking, again, I get the best insights.
I have like two or three guys that are just really big players, right?
And they go through like 100 women a year.
You meet them at these camps.
It's incredible.
And I get better insights from them than I do from like studies because like the academics, they get their studies, like their data from asking women and women lie.
So it's just never going to be accurate.
Where I can just say, hey, can you just start looking in bitches medicine cabinets and tell me what percent are on head meds?
So I asked him, I said, what percent of women, like hot women and mid women, who has the bigger egos?
And he said, the mids can't get the high value men with a lot of choice generally.
So the hot women have been humbled more.
And they've had a lot more honesty from men because they can get the top men with choice.
And when men have a lot of choice, they just talk to you in a different way.
They might just tell you, you know.
And so generally what you're going to get with mids is they date men.
Either they don't have the balls to juggle multiple women or they just can't.
They don't have a lot of female choice.
So she doesn't understand what he's saying when he's saying, oh, I don't really talk to women.
It doesn't mean they never talk to their wives, but men don't enjoy listening to us talk.
They do it because they love us.
But remember, she's going to have a platform.
It's very difficult not to have a big ego when you have a platform because people are just telling you you're awesome 24-7.
So you're going to want to sleep with them, but they shouldn't be one of your, you know, top women.
It's just like, it's disgusting.
Women With Big Egos00:14:19
And maybe I'm numb to it now because it's.
Okay, but you weren't a virgin on your wedding day.
I bet that's not disgusting.
Are you disgusting?
I mean, this is just the ego, like the fact they think they could lecture men on anything is just incredible.
It's just incredible.
I'm like, you weren't, you went to UCLA.
Do you think I'm stupid?
You know, like I'm not, I'm not as dumb as your simps.
Okay.
Are you disgusting for that?
Shut up.
Very prevalent on social media, but I look at all of that and I laugh at it, honestly.
Thankfully, in my circles, you know, the friends of my husband's, my friends, the young men that I know, that hasn't taken hold.
And most of the people in our circle laugh at it.
Okay.
Think about what she's communicating.
That's so embarrassing.
My husband and his friends do not have choice.
They do not have sexual choice.
She's saying this on live television.
It's incredible.
See it as being like another form of reality TV and just being a ridiculous side of society.
But again, it's not a ridiculous side of society when Elijah Schaefer banged half a conservative media.
That's actually just society, you know.
And why I do episodes about this and I might talk about how it's very funny and I get a kick out of it.
At the end of the day, the point that I do try to make at end of the end of every episode is that we can consume this kind of content.
You know, we can, you know, engage it.
The content will hit your real life.
You're only 22.
You don't know shit.
And I'm not trying to be rude, but you don't know anything about anything because you're 22, you know.
Yeah.
So it'll hit your real life.
You just got to give it time.
When I was 22, I probably thought the same thing.
This isn't real.
A decade goes by and, you know, then it hits your real life.
With it, laugh.
I made a couple of jokes about clavicular last night when I was posting about the Super Bowl.
But at the end of the day, that is still content that we are subliminably, oh my God, I can't even speak right now, but we are consuming.
And those are messages that we are consuming, whether we are intending to or not, especially with young, impressionable minds.
And so it's important for parents to be aware of what their children are watching.
And I would say the same thing for adults as well, like for the women who sit around, you know, watching reality TV, which I definitely do sometimes.
If you're watching shows like too hot to handle, those are not teaching you, you know, great values.
Those are not encouraging, you know, marriage and family and love and treating people with respect.
And so I think it's important to know that, you know, you can consume content that is humorous and entertaining and be aware that it is just.
Do you see him tuning her out?
It's just incredible.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
But young women, they never get a reality check till they're older.
It is entertainment.
Because at her age, everyone where she's going to go everywhere is just going to worship her.
And, you know, she just communicated on live television that her husband worships her too.
You know.
So it is like watching a movie and you should walk away and be able to go, that's gross behavior.
I laughed at it, but be able to distinguish between the two.
And that's something that has been a common thread in my content for the last four years is being able to dissect these things that are happening on social media and say, this is what young people are consuming.
These are where our jokes are coming from.
These are where our attitudes are coming from.
Whether you know it or like it or not, this is how we're being influenced.
So at least be aware of what you're consuming.
Because even though I think the world would be a better place if everybody turned off their phones and stopped watching X, Y, and Z and didn't spend so much time scrolling on TikTok, that's not going to happen.
We're all online.
These figures are blowing up.
We're consuming their content.
So the best thing that you can do is at least be aware of the messages that they are sending.
I mean, I spend at least an hour a day watching lion reels, literally reels of lions in the African bush.
I'm addicted to mine is all.
She just said that's much healthier, but he has the wife.
It's like they'll have wives that are publicly humiliating and nagging them and then telling the red pill guys that they're fucked up.
It's like, Pierce, your wife has been embarrassing you for the last month.
Brett, you use your husband for clout.
That's embarrassing for men.
To have like an editorial spread about your wedding where you're wearing white, not a virgin.
Like that's embarrassing for men.
So it's just incredible.
They always lecture incredibly weird, but it yeah, lion reels.
I could watch them all day long.
I think it's because they've got two cats and they're basically mini lions, but it's just I find them fascinating.
Um, I just want to end by asking you how you're going to spend Valentine's Day.
I assume with your husband, the father of your young son, but I'm assuming also you won't be going to see Wothering Heights.
What is the new movie which opens on Valentine's Day?
No, I will not.
You know, I'm an English literature major and I spent most of my time at UCLA.
Oh my God, English lit cook.
Focusing on literature from that era, actually.
And I love British literature.
I revere it.
My favorite novel in the world that I spent the most time in school studying is Jane Eyre.
So that was written by one of the Bronte sisters.
And I just feel like this Wuthering Heights is a crime.
It's a crime.
And it was, you know, the director has even admitted that this is just based on her sexual fantasy that she had while reading the book down to the casting of Jacob Lordy and how she is perceiving it.
Like it is not a thoughtful, accurate.
Okay, we're going to skip over.
I don't care what she's doing for Valentine's Day.
There's a great clip doing the rounds.
And it's the reaction of a young woman who apparently didn't want kids holding a baby and breaking down in tears.
Let's just take a quick look at this.
Okay, so she's crying with the baby.
What is this?
If women wanted to have children, we would have them.
And you guys got to stop falling for this.
Women that have kids and use the kids to build their brand, they do not care about the children.
They don't.
If they cared about the kids, the kids would be private.
Right?
Women that use their husband to build their brands, they do not care about the husband because you are inviting people's opinions that don't matter just so you can look like a good person.
They don't care.
Everyone said I was crazy for this when it happened to Sarah Stock.
Brett Cooper, same thing.
So what's probably going to happen, I'm going to guess, is Brett and Pierce.
I don't know if they're dishonest or they just believe the facade, right?
But they're going to say, oh, women are just tricked by feminism.
No.
Brett, nobody tricked you into throwing it back at UCLA.
Nobody did.
Nobody tricked me into throwing it back either.
Every time I've thrown it back, I did so with enthusiasm.
So what they're going to say, because they're always having to run cover for women's reputation because the Simps married the whores, right?
All women are whores.
So this is just everybody.
And so they have to believe they didn't marry a whore.
And Brett is to convince everybody that she's not a whore, right?
And this is women.
Yeah, Brett was in a sorority.
I don't know how stupid you guys like.
Do you think I'm just, I'm just so, I'm so sick of being right all the time, you know?
I'm sick of being.
So they're going to say, oh, they're tricked.
No, women just would rather do anything else but raise kids because raising kids is boring.
That's an honest, that's an honest answer.
Women would rather go to the parties with celebrities.
And the only women that are getting married are the ones whose husbands allow them to do that, like Brett, right?
And what they're going to do is they're going to market it as, oh, I just do this on the side.
I'm not, I really am a full-time mom when it very obviously consumes their whole life.
And they're going to torture everyone in their house because women can't just watch the news and not talk about it with their whole family.
It's going to be torturous.
Um, yeah, so yeah, and then they're going to nag everyone else just like they'll nag their husbands.
Their husbands are never going to correct them because they're desperate and they want Poonani too bad.
If the guys waited till marriage, then that just signals he had zero choice.
Because I'm sorry, there's no guy that gets a lot of Poonanni, none that wants to wait till marriage.
Zero.
Oh, but Pearl Nick Nick Nick, he makes millions of dollars and has a whole career built on being a virgin, right?
Um, we have no idea how he'd act if he didn't have that.
I've never seen a man with no cameras rolling turn down Poonani.
Sorry, haven't.
Oh, but Pearl, I would shut the up, Pearl.
I didn't do that in college.
Shut up.
It's like, um, Lauren Chen going to divorce in the next five years.
I'm going to predict it now.
Please, somebody clip this.
In five years, she will divorce.
She will have her whole face.
yeah um i used to be desperate myself when i was younger I was so desperate, but now I don't care.
I have all kinds of women.
I may not see them physically, but they blow up my phone all the time.
I'm just tired.
I just don't like the bullshit.
I just want to be real.
If she has a kid in the next year, I'll believe her.
Girl.
If everyone just held a held a young baby for a minute or two, it would solve most of the world's.
This is why it's going to be bullshit because if you loved motherhood so much, you would just stop doing the internet stuff.
It would stop.
You married Rich.
You won.
You're done.
She won't, right?
And this isn't to judge her, right?
The internet stuff is fun as hell.
I love the internet stuff.
I'm not saying this to judge her, but what I'm trying to say to the influencers is: I'd just like us to cut the shit.
Media programmed women to want the wrong things in life.
You're a simp.
I'm so sorry.
I just can't, I can't deal with it.
Media didn't program shit.
Women have the opportunity to marry their high school boyfriends and they say, No, I want to go higher.
I want to see if I can bang a better guy in college.
And then that goes to some girls graduate and do it then.
And then they move on to the career, the city, whatever.
So women weren't programmed to do anything.
Women are doing exactly what they want to do.
The problem is simps like you who don't believe them.
Oh, but she cried.
She said she wanted kids.
Well, people can say things.
People do what they want to do.
And the biggest people that the biggest things people lie to are themselves.
How many women are convinced that we want something, but our life choices reveal what we want?
There's stated preferences and there's revealed preferences.
Yeah, it's called revealed preference.
If women wanted to, we would do it.
You have to also remember there's a camera interface.
So women, whenever there's a camera, it's performative.
Women behave differently in Japan.
No, they don't.
They're not having kids either.
Their birth rate's falling everywhere.
That's why it's important to talk to yourself regularly.
Look, there's times when I thought that I wanted something and I didn't.
You know?
I thought I wanted to get married young.
I thought I did.
And I thought, you know, but I clearly didn't because I wanted to play volleyball more.
That was my revealed preference, stated versus revealed.
And women, we do this all the time.
She says motherhood's the most important thing.
Well, it's not because you're like, I've seen her.
I'll go to her Instagram.
Why Kids Signal Hope00:05:43
I'll show you.
Right.
Now her husband's got to be marketing for her Instagram, right?
the baby's going to be marketing for her so and it's never going to end It's never going to end.
Hold on, let me go back.
So I'm not saying it's wrong, right?
But it's not what a lot of these people are selling, you know?
I think so.
It solved a lot of problems in my life just being with my son.
And it's so funny seeing videos like that because it is, you know, biology at work.
There will always be, you know, women who choose not to have children, but there is something that is so biological about a woman holding a baby and feeling that.
Yeah.
So the way that, and I want you to pay attention, the way that women treat their kids, they're like Ryan Stone talks about it all the time.
It's fuck trophies for clout.
And so they're going to constantly use their kids to signal that they're good people instead of just being good people.
Right?
Connection, even with men too.
Like it has been such a special experience watching some of the young men in my family's life, like my brother-in-laws, like them holding our son.
And, you know, they aren't married.
They aren't close to having kids yet, but having that connection and watching that transform from the first day that they held him to being so uncomfortable and like, I'm going to break this baby.
I don't know what to do.
You know, fast forward many months.
They just, you know, salivate over seeing him and are so excited to, you know, hold him and play with him.
And it's so natural.
Right.
But again, if it was so exciting, then you wouldn't be here.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, if it was so exciting, you would just get your excitement from the kids.
You wouldn't be here.
Stated.
This is her stated preference, revealed preference.
Stated preference, revealed preference.
Now, again, I don't think there's anything wrong with what she's doing, but I think we're kind of doing a disservice to people when we're not being accurate.
And I really, oh, you gifted five memberships you shouldn't have.
Thank you.
That was so nice.
Yeah, actions speak louder than words.
So she's going to use the kids to signal status to virtue signal when I shouldn't be hearing about them at all.
You're a political commentator.
I barely hear about Pierce's kids.
You might mention them, but this shouldn't, this shouldn't be on the internet, you know.
And watching that change within them is really special.
So, yeah, I mean, it is, I knew that I always wanted to be a mom.
I knew that that was going to be, you know, the most important thing that I ever do in my life.
It was the thing that I was most excited about.
But that actually happening and seeing it, you know, transform things in my life and my husband's life and our family's life and our friends.
It's just very special.
And it reiterates the point to me that I think having children is not only a wonderful thing to do just for you and for fulfillment, but it's also a very like objectively, it is a hopeful and positive thing because you are saying, I, you know, I'm trusting enough in our world.
I am hopeful that, you know, infrastructure and a good society, the country will still be here for you.
And I am going to fight.
Yeah, see, hopeful.
And by the way, your kids not fighting shit.
The birth rate's still going down.
You have been on the air for like three years now.
The birth rate has continued to gone down.
Marriage has gone down.
You've been ineffective and you don't have solutions.
I don't either, right?
But I think we need to get to the point where we're going to be honest about this.
This is kind of where the world's going.
And yeah.
She says, you know, being a mother is the most important thing to me.
No, it's not because of your choices, right?
If it was the most important thing to you, you wouldn't be here.
And what women will do is they just gaslight you for eternity.
So they just say, no, I, and then they explain.
They just, and it just, it's so exhausting.
It just never ends.
For you.
And it's just, it objectively is a very joyful, um, hopeful thing.
So yeah, it has been a wonderful experience for us.
I always say, and I remember all my kids, I've got four kids.
I remember them all being born.
But the first time, I always think that moment when you take your first baby home and you open Pierce, your wife is humiliating you on the internet.
Nobody wants what you have.
Brett, you're also humiliating your husband on the internet.
Nobody wants what either of you have.
So, fortunately.
From the door to your house, and you walk in and you've got this tiny little thing, and you suddenly realize it's all on you.
You've left the hospital.
You've left all the care that it's all on for most people.
It's all on you.
And this little thing is reliant on you for absolutely everything.
And then you realize, I mean, my oldest boy is like 32, right?
You never stop feeling that about your kids.
And it changes you irrevocably in a great way.
It just, oh, yeah, Brett Cooper.
So that's such a good point.
Emily's Impact00:12:13
She did ignore the Sarah Stock story.
Let's see what the fuck Brett Cooper said.
Brett Cooper, e-girl.
You have got to be kidding me.
All right.
Hold up.
Hold up.
What is going on?
Let me let me finish the other clip and then I'm going to look at it.
It changes you irrevocably because you ultimately stop being so selfish because these little things.
No, men stop being selfish.
She's going to be just as selfish, right?
Sacrificing her family's privacy.
Yeah, she is.
There's going to be zero difference in the selfishness.
So they're relying on you forever.
And they never stop that.
And that's the that's the okay.
All right.
Sorry.
So that's using their kids to virtue signal.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's let's go back and let's see what she had to say about Sarah Stock before.
And let's see what she said.
She's the right wing girl boss, trad wife.
I don't even know corner of X right now because they are melting down.
So all of this started when a girl posted a photo of her engagement ring and she said that she had gotten engaged.
So I want to lay out these cast of characters for you because I was trying to explain this to Alex.
I was trying to explain this.
Yes.
The e-girls will always bring the drama to their husbands, always.
Always, always, always.
People on my team, I was like, guys, we have to talk about this, but it was so convoluted.
So in case you have not been following this insane scandal that has been unfolding for days, these are the cast of characters.
Okay.
So the beef online that we are seeing is between a girl named Sarah Stock.
She is the one who got engaged and posted her ring.
Pearl Davis, just pearly things on X. There she is right there.
Emily Wilson, who goes by Emily Saves America online.
And Morgan Ariel, who is another conservative MAGA trad style influence.
Oh, yeah.
Brett Cooper, did she take her husband's last name?
Nope.
They never do.
There's her photo.
Sorry, that took a second.
There she is.
So these are all like conservative.
She is announcing that not only is she in a relationship, which people didn't know, but she also is engaged.
I mean, I did the same thing.
Nobody really knew that I was dating Alex.
And then I popped up and I was like, hey, actually, I'm getting married.
We're getting engaged.
So anyway, she did a whole editorial spread.
Did that.
And this post should not have been controversial at all.
She had a funny caption.
I won.
I don't know if she's saying that, you know, to dunk on other women or she's saying that she won because she's getting married and she loves her fiance.
Whatever it is, I saw.
Well, well, well.
It's not if I'm right.
It's when.
All right.
I was like, oh, that's so nice.
That's great.
Like, this should not have been controversial in the slightest, but right-wing feminists, MAGA, whatever they are, they exploded for a myriad of reasons online.
But the conversation quickly became about the size of her ring.
And it was specifically fueled by this comment from Emily.
She just said the ring size with like the dead emoji, which means LOL.
And guys, this is where it really gets juicy.
Like all hell broke loose from here.
And I'm not going to read every word in all of these tweets because they are so graphic and there are things that I don't even want to say online, but I will have my producer flash them up on screen.
You can pause these.
You can read them.
You can enjoy them.
But if you have children watching in the background, I know a lot of you guys like sit with your kids and watch this.
This might not be the episode.
You might want to turn this off or like cover their ears because what is going on with these women is insane.
All right.
So Morgan Ariel, that's one of the girls we talked about.
She skipped over that Sarah Stock started this whole thing.
I said conservative women will always use their ring to build their brand or their ring, their marriage, their family.
I don't remember the exact word.
I've said the same thing so many times.
And conservative women don't like it when I point this out.
Then Sarah Stock responded and she said, if you stopped banging black guys, maybe you would too.
Something like that.
Call me a whore, basically, right?
Because I have a, I have a Hispanic boyfriend.
Dominican, not, but whatever.
But that was the beginning of the e-girl.
I didn't insult her.
I didn't attack her.
I just said, hey, using that to build your brand, right?
Quote tweeted that comment from Emily Saves America.
And she said, you give it up for free, hoe, might want to sit this one out.
So she's saying you shouldn't even be, you know, commenting on this.
To be honest, I probably didn't need to attack Morgan Ariel.
And I said this back then.
But I didn't like how she was insulting Emily for no reason.
$10 super sticker.
Thank you.
It's been a slow month.
So I appreciate it.
We're getting stuff ready for the documentary.
I'm excited.
We got our final quote for all the quotes we're looking at.
Yeah.
So cool.
Or about her ring size.
You give it up for free.
She's getting married.
She's staying in her lane.
Whatever.
Like, sit this one out.
And then Pearl jumps back in.
And by the way, she skipped over.
Already been tweeting about Sarah and the ring and her marriage and all that stuff.
Pearl jumps in.
She responds to Morgan and says, Morgan, you are a single mother with a public video admitting that you have HPV.
You may want to sit this one out too.
And then Morgan responds with that, which I will let you guys read on your own time.
And then Emily jumps right back in.
Again, guys, these are conservative female influencers, conservative in quotes, air quotes.
Emily says, Morgan, your baby daddy abandoned you.
You're raising a bastard child, but yet somehow, some way, you think you're better than me or anyone on this app.
You gave it up for free, got left in the dust, and now post rage bait on X to supplement the inadequacy of your monthly child support payments.
Like now this is like the cuts are going deep.
Like these women are lashing out.
They are basically trying to dunk on each other.
Like who is the most hoe of all of the hoes?
Who is the least trad?
It is like, instead of like, this is like the reverse of what the left does.
Like the left will try to dunk on each other and they will try to be so morally superior.
I'm more politically correct.
I've done all these things.
I've donated to these causes.
I posted the black square.
You do the same thing, but with your kids.
You do the exact same thing.
Where I do all the right things.
I go to the right protests.
On the right, it's just.
These are the type of women.
This nagging will drive you to suicide.
It's like, you are hoe.
You do this.
You do whatever.
It's just like tearing people down.
Anyway, that's sort of what's happening.
And then this is just where this is the doozy.
This was like the tweet to end all tweets.
You would think that it all peaked here, but it just kept going.
So Morgan then responds and she says, she's talking to Emily.
Oh my God.
None of that is true, Emily.
But unlike you, I don't lie.
So here are some facts.
Oh my God.
I can't even believe I'm going to read this.
No, Max, you can put this back on screen.
People need to see this.
Let's bring it back.
I'm so sorry.
You got you were engaging in sexual acts, I would say, in the middle of a hotel lobby at a TPUSA event.
Okay.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm not.
Okay.
Morgan Ariel put an essay about how Emily's a whore.
Styles because their engagement rings didn't cost enough or their lifestyle isn't flashy enough.
But yeah, I'm the one who needs money, you gold digging hoe.
Oh my God.
And guys, it only took off from there.
That was like 48 hours ago.
And we are still talking about this.
The tweets are still flying.
The comment sections are still popping off.
Now, it seems like at this point, the entire right wing has, you know, commented on what I'll call like Ringgate.
They are either like debating the value of an engagement ring and how big an engagement ring should be, whether men, you know, should propose with a ring pop or actually get something, you know, more expensive.
What you need and, you know, the values behind that, they're debating that.
They're also talking about the values or lack thereof, I would say, of these influencers who are tweeting.
And so I've been trying to think about how I feel about all this and what I want to say, because obviously I wanted to talk about because it's funny and per usual.
Things that happen online in the real world are far more dramatic and funnier, in my opinion, than reality TV.
Like this is basically Jerry Springer.
This is hilarious.
But I think that there is a bigger point here that we should discuss.
And a couple of things are true.
First of all, unfortunately, women are going to women.
They are going to lash out.
They're going to be petty and jealous.
They're going to be competitive.
They're going to do all-you know, she spent, let's see, 10 minutes, 20, 15 minutes talking about this.
I want a 15 minute apology video.
I want 15 minutes of just Pearl was right.
Pearl was correct.
Yes, I want the same with the authority you're talking right now on this subject that you know nothing about.
I want 15 minutes of apologizing.
That's what I want.
Great live stream, Pearl.
Keep up the good work.
appreciate you.
I want the same, the same authority you're speaking right here.
I want that level of humility.
I want that level of humility.
And I want a 20-minute apology video.
This for attention online, which ironically, just to bring this back up, Emily tweeted about before all of this started.
She had a tweet where she said, women just hate other women and it boils down to jealousy.
It's that simple.
And yet she was one who was trashing this girl because of the size of her ring.
Now, another point that I want to make about ring size is just for any of the guys out there or girls who are now looking at their rings or thinking about getting engaged, whatever.
In my opinion, it's like every situation is different.
Every relationship is different.
Your values and your priorities, even down to what kind of ring you want or like or different.
So just do you.
Can you imagine you're getting attention online?
She's a streamer.
Incredible.
Incredible.
Women's lack of self-awareness is just incredible.
Thank you guys again.
Look, the super chats really, they really help me out here because do you know what it's like being the one that has to point this stuff out?
Everybody hates me.
The Simps hate me.
The women hate me.
It's just, everybody hates me because I point out women's manipulation.
We say what we can't get accountability.
Something shitty about saying, I always knew I was going to be a mom while broadcasting modern woman life.
I'm that good.
I'm that good that it was always going to be there.
Isn't that incredible?
What makes you happy and tune everybody else out and stop shaming people for the size of their rings and their choices.
Like you genuinely like can't win.
If you get a quote unquote real natural diamond and it's all you can afford.
And so you get a really small one, that's wonderful, but people will still maybe make comments.
But I also see things online where people get like a moissonite or a lab grown ring or some other kind of gemstone.
And it's like a really big ring and they're posting about it.
And then you have people in the comments who are responding and going, I can tell that it's fake because you could never afford it.
It's just like, oh, my gosh, let people live.
Let people live.
It does not matter.
It is just a ring.
Like prioritize it however you want to.
That is a decision between you and your future spouse.
Prioritize Your Values00:03:43
Like this does not even need to be a big conversation.
But unfortunately, or fortunately for us in my own enjoyment, this did turn into a bigger conversation, which I think is worth having.
And, you know, these people, these women who are tweeting, these might be quote unquote right-wing, trad, MAGA, conservative influencers.
But what we're seeing online right now, these are certainly not conservative actions.
The way that all of this is.
Neither are your actions.
So shut up.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, neither are yours.
You cannot be a woman broadcasting.
I'm going to tweet that.
You cannot be a woman broadcasting your life, family, and marriage on the internet and claiming and also be conservative, conservative or traditional in any way.
It's just incredible.
Being posted about the language that is being used, the sexual degeneracy that they are all being accused of, the manner of posting, like none of that is conservative.
You went to UCLA.
You're in a sorority.
Shut up.
You don't care about degeneracy.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't care.
Conservative.
Conservative.
But I think the bigger issue is people right now don't even know what conservative values are anymore.
And a lot of people have warned Republicans about that.
Like as you expand the big tent, these values are going to become eroded.
We're not going to even know what we believe anymore.
And unfortunately, those people were completely accurate.
Like we have spent, I personally have spent so much time this year talking about the left, talking about the left losing its way, not being genuine, not being authentic, losing touch with its party, especially young people, the values being all over the place, having like naked people at pride parades, but then having like Gavin Newsom with his like perfect, like coaft blonde family that is like the complete antithesis to what you see like naked in the streets.
Like everything is just insane and chaotic.
But that also, I'm sorry, is what has happened on the right.
Like you have MAGA, you have Christian conservatives, you have conservatives who aren't necessarily religious, you have libertarians who got involved, you have people from the left who joined in because they liked Tulsi or RFK Jr., whatever it may be.
And everybody is fighting for dominance in regards to their values.
And there's so much chaotic, you know, confusion that nobody really knows what to believe.
And a lot of these people will grift and leech onto these labels for money and attention online.
Like you are.
When they aren't actually living the values.
You cannot be living it and simultaneously be broadcasting your life on the internet.
I am so fucking sick of these women lecturing us.
It's like, shut up.
Shut up.
Okay, hold on.
What we get about something shit, what we can get, can't get accountability, something shitty about, oh, I already read that one already.
That are attached to that label that they have now assigned themselves, if that makes sense.
Sorry, I think that this is probably getting kind of jumbled, but I'm trying to get to a point here.
Like these alleged stories about these women and women like them and things that happen at these conferences, which I have attended as a student, I've spoken at, like, these aren't new to me, unfortunately.
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Like, this is not shocking information.
And it's not just women.
Like, I hear stories about men going to these conferences and cheating on their wives, straight men getting to these conferences and going on Grindr and hooking up with.
So let me get this straight.
You went to all these conferences, but you magically did nothing.
It's like, okay.
Dudes, I did a whole interview with my friend Amir and we talked about the hypocrisy and what he sees as a gay man at so many of these.
You're a hypocrite.
It's all of them.
Conferences, all women claiming any resemblance of traditionalism, it's cost, you know, the trad women who LARP online for attention, but meanwhile are sleeping around with a bunch of guys behind the scenes, not actually living the values that they say that they are.
You cannot be living the values while broadcasting your family for clout and attention.
You can't encouraging other women to follow.
And this is not meant to discourage people or blackpill you guys.
I'm just trying to be honest about all of it.
I won't uphold a value at some point.
Maybe I will let you down.
I don't know.
I hope I don't.
I really do make a concerted, serious effort.
Okay.
I can't listen to this girl anymore.
All right.
Wait, I want to watch because I'm pretty sure Rachel Wilson came on and we were debating about Sarah Stock.
And I want to remember what she said.
So this was the uh, oh, she came on earlier.
All right.
So I brought on Rachel and Isabella Moody to talk about the ring gate.
And I want to see how this aged.
James is just like, we're going to have you do.
Yeah.
I thought that I do have you can't over talk me.
This is my.
Oh, I got some pushback.
So one of the pushbacks that I got is that we should broadcast our marriages and show that we're awesome by our marriages because it's better than OnlyFans.
You are 100% right, Pearl.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I know.
I know.
And I just don't know if a woman selling her butthole on the internet, if like the goal is to be better than selling the butthole.
Because I think what's actually going to happen is there's going to be many girls trying to be influencers in their marriages.
And it's going to drive all these men's like all these women's husbands like insane.
I think that's actually the more likely outcome is like, it's going to be like the new.
And by the way, I'm not a good person.
I'm not saying it's me, right?
But it's going to be the new, like, like the new joke, like the new man's worst fear is going to be.
I want to debate about feminism.
They're like, no, um, but yeah, that's that's my two cents.
Um, Savannah came in.
I did invite her, but you know, she said she couldn't stay up this late.
And I'm like, Savannah, she's like, ask me to move the show.
I'm like, do you, the world doesn't revolve around you, honey?
Like, you guys just blackpill me more and more.
Savannah, it makes sense that women would post their marriages and engagement for status when it's ridiculous.
A rock.
Oh, this is what she said.
It makes sense that women would post their marriages and engagements for status when it's ridiculous, uh, sized rock and six-figure wedding ring.
So, oh, women, oh, hell yeah.
Oh, I need to tweet this.
I need to screenshot this.
Oh, I'm tweeting this.
Oh, hell yeah.
Where is the humility?
Oh, my God.
It makes sense that women would post their marriages and engagements for status and a six-figure.
Oh, my gosh.
Savannah F. Stone.
Did she take it down?
engagement.
Bruh.
Hold on.
Let's see if I can.
I'm screenshotting this and I'm tweeting it.
I want, how do I do it?
Okay, hold on.
Okay, hold on one second, guys.
I want this here.
Here we go.
Yep.
Can I get an apology at Savannah, Savannah?
a a you were right with the same ego that you use to type this please this is from the e-girl war Okay.
Say things like, look at my ring.
Where's your ring?
They're signaling that they're higher status, right?
And now they're going to gaslight you and say, well, if it's not a big ring, it doesn't count.
This is world.
And this is why, like, I want to shoot myself sometimes because I'm like, this gaslighting is going to drive me crazy.
You're using it exactly for that.
Exactly.
But the young women who are having modest ceremonies and don't care about materialism of marriage, definitely are not.
We get ridiculed for it.
I don't think so, Savannah.
I got to look at the facts.
You know, you got a pretty big Instagram following.
I see you come up.
You got 5,000 followers on here.
I'm assuming you're monetizing in some way.
Or you can.
You still get, as I said earlier, power from this.
And this kind of goes back to the point is women are, the reason women are always going to vote is even e-girls, they're never going to give up power.
I'm not saying they should.
I'm not saying.
Okay, now, Doug, when does Rachel come on?
What are these conservative TradCon women doing?
Even if it's 22, 23.
I mean, that's four years of college, man, plus high school.
And I don't, and please don't come on here and try to like sell me purity.
Please don't, because I'm not going to believe you.
Look at you guys have no incentive, to be honest.
Yes.
Let me put it.
Groy, bros.
We got it.
And can you tell me who's on the line?
Just if someone calls in.
So Rachel Wilson, please come up.
Isabella Moody, please come up.
All you ladies that were talking mess in the chat, this is your opportunity.
Come say it to Pearl's face.
Because we want to hear it's catfight night tonight.
Let's go.
Yeah.
I thought that the way that you approached it, because who would take a, oh yeah, I'm engaged of a picture of a ring and then without her fiancé in it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I know, but then they'll say it's privacy.
But if you cared about privacy, why post it at all?
It's like, that's the gaslighting.
That's what makes me want to shoot myself.
Which is it?
Witches, do you want privacy or not?
Now Rachel's going to come on.
I love Rachel, but she's about to gaslight me some more.
Rachel, are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
Can you guys hear me?
Hey, V, Rachel Wilson.
Let's go.
The one and only.
I'm just kidding.
All right.
Hey, Rachel.
Please don't shoot yourself.
Oh, I'm not.
I'm just being dramatic.
I'm a woman.
All right.
I suppose.
Welcome to the show.
I miss you.
It's been a while.
How are you?
I know.
Even outside of, before we'll get into the topic, but how are you doing?
How's have you moved yet or no?
Is that possible?
No, but we're still getting really close.
We're getting really close.
I just had like a major surgery like six weeks ago.
So I had to like take some time to recover from that and everything before we could move.
But I'm doing good now.
I'm pretty much back at it.
I'm a little slower than normal, but I'm just.
I don't care.
Let's go a little further.
Got well over a decade past the wall.
So I have no vested interest in trying to be a hottie or, you know, trying to get simps.
Virtue signaling.
You know, I've been with Andrew for 18 years now.
We're like way, way.
You just saw that naturally, huh?
What the hell?
No, I was just point.
Point, get to the point.
Posting.
Because what women do is they follow whatever's the popular girl, whoever's the pretty girl, that's who they follow and that's who they emulate.
And so I want to magnify that kind of behavior and I want to stigmatize the OnlyFans girls and the hookers and the trashy sluts and all that sort of stuff.
And it's like, despite all the beef and all the name calling and everybody yelling at each other, it's like, I want, I apologize for the HPV comment.
All right.
But you know what?
Of all the things you should apologize for, I'd say that's not the one.
Because number one, Morgan's a retard.
And number two, it's true.
She's the one that put out her own videos talking about how she has HPV.
So it's like, what do you want us to do?
Rachel, I do disagree with you, though.
I don't think that this, like, social media is the same thing as the town square because I think that like the town square was not nearly as harmful as social media is to women's relationships.
So, you know, it wasn't really about Sarah.
You know, I've posted that same thing with like five other e-girls.
None of them crashed out on me, by the way.
And it was more about like, this is kind of where things are going.
This is the trend is that men in order to get into relationships will most likely have to sacrifice privacy.
And I don't think that's inaccurate.
The other problem, too, is when you have girls doing this stuff, I mean, Lauren Southern was doing the same thing and she crashed out.
Half of the girls doing it, I mean, it's going to, it's a numbers game, right?
Half of them, the same thing's going to happen to her.
Oh, my God.
I didn't realize how accurate I was.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
I did not know.
Wow.
Wow.
So don't you think it's a little bit like discouraging?
Not in your case, because you've already raised your kids and stuff, but like when young women like do that and then later they end up divorced, it's like the same outcome.
Well, so even regardless of whether you're popular online or not, a lot of them get divorced and leave and cheat and all that stuff.
Anyway, and you and I are both really hard on women and we're really critical of women when they're behaving badly.
But I do like seeing women getting engaged at 21.
I don't want to see them getting married at 30 and waiting to have kids until they're 35 and then having 1.2 kids.
I don't like that.
Well, I want them getting married.
I don't mind.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing, right?
All I'm saying is, like, she actually proved my point because this started a shit storm online, right?
And that's like, is that bringing peace or drama?
And that's my point is most men are going to have to sacrifice privacy and take on drama in 2020.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Did I?
Isn't this incredible?
I can't even believe the accuracy I have right there.
25 in order to be in relationships.
And they're going to compromise and do it.
It's like only fans, but on the other side in a way.
I mean, you could say that.
And it's more a difference of it being local or being like national or even global.
So like my grandma, who's 99 years old now, she has a story about how when she was dating a guy, she kind of had two boys fighting over her.
And this is like 1945.
Two guys fighting over her.
And that they got into a fist fight over her at the local gas station and like broke stuff.
And it was like, it made the little local paper and everything that these two guys got into a fist fight over my grandma.
So it's like, if women are involved and relationships are involved, there's always going to be drama.
It's just like, was it local or is it national now?
So like with somebody like Sarah, if she's got a big following and this guy is choosing to get engaged to her, he probably knows that comes with the territory to a certain extent.
Although she did only post a picture of the ring because she doesn't put his name and face out there.
She's trying to prevent him from becoming public.
You have to understand, like, I don't think you're going to like in my head, you don't value privacy.
That's not something that's important to you if you're posting that online.
And I think it's kind of gaslighting me if you're going to say you're going to post something private.
You make it public.
An engagement isn't private.
That's totally public information.
It's public record.
When you get married, it's public record.
It's never engagements aren't private.
No, but I'm saying you're still drawing attention to it.
I'm not saying you're immoral, right?
I'm not like, do not mistake me for saying that's immoral.
Well, are you saying there's something wrong with it?
I am saying that a lot of that's bringing drama, not peace generally.
And that it makes me think you've, that's what you value if that's what you're posting.
Oh, if I, if I had been online when Andrew asked me to marry him, I'd have posted it because it was the happiest day of my life.
I couldn't believe this awesome guy wanted to marry me.
And I would post it too.
And I'd be like, oh my God.
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I would say the same thing.
I'd be like, I won.
I got this amazing guy.
This is the best day of my life.
This is awesome.
Just like you would announce it if you won the lottery.
I don't think there's anything.
One of the things that pro likes to point out is there's a pipeline to these fake trad women.
Okay.
Oh, I know.
Dude, I've argued with all of them.
They've come for me.
Have you, did you see what happened when I pointed out that Isabella DeLuca was not just innocently baking a cake?
Oh my God.
Remember that?
You guys remember the cakegate incident?
This is crazy.
Because anyone that doesn't know the story, this girl we're talking about was banging her boss and making her husband wait till marriage.
Bruh.
Where I just pointed out that she had batter splattered all over her giant, you know, patas and that she could have just put an apron on.
I've, I go rounds with these girls too.
And there's a reason why my Twitter bio says not trad, not conservative, because I don't think those labels mean anything anymore.
I don't think any of us who were born after 1945 are trad or conservative.
I don't think they know what they're trying to conserve.
I don't think they know what tradition they're following.
Those are just like empty.
The thing is, though, I just don't think it's immoral for me to not believe it's genuine if you're using it to force status and clout.
And I'm just saying, if you're posting that on the internet, that's what you're doing and you're inviting drama and that's what happened.
I don't think it's immoral for me to notice.
I don't.
Well, I didn't say it wasn't.
I didn't think it was immoral for you to perceive it that way.
I did when I saw her post it, I'll Rachel.
I need a 10-minute video.
I love you, Rachel.
I need a 10-minute video from you.
I need a 10-minute amount of arguing.
I need it.
I need a 10-minute.
I was 100% wrong.
Pearl was 100% right.
I need it from every single person.
I need one from Rachel.
I need one from Savannah.
I need one from Matt Walsh.
I need an I was wrong.
Pearl was right.
I would like a 10-minute video that details that I was right, that you were wrong.
I want to talk about why you were wrong.
And I would like details laying out how you missed this.
So, yeah, thank you.
I would exit this one.
Well, I thought she was doing was saying, Holy cow, look at this amazing thing that happened to me.
I'm so happy.
That's how when she said I won, that's what I thought.
I guess other people took it differently.
Well, when you're saying, like, where's your ring?
Now you're saying you're using it to say that you're higher status, which is fine.
Maybe she is, but it doesn't come off as like it comes off when you say, I won, where's your ring?
As you know, I'm better than you.
Here's my ring.
And if that's what you think, that's fine.
Why did anybody?
This is what I don't understand.
Why did anybody attack the original post?
Like, I didn't attack her firing back.
I didn't attack her.
I was pointing out a trend.
She fired back at me.
She called me a whore.
But didn't you make it sound like it was negative?
Like she was doing something.
I can't, I can't, I can't help how she feels about it.
But my original post, I read it in the beginning of the stream.
I said, I can pull it up again, but it said that conservative women will always use their family and their marriage to build their brand.
And that's a fact, Rachel.
That's what she's doing.
Okay, what's wrong with that?
I didn't say it was immoral.
I'm saying that's where the trend is going.
But are you saying it's negative?
Are you saying I'm wrong with it?
No, I didn't.
If you read the original post, I didn't.
I am not saying that.
So it's not a criticism.
I am not saying it's immoral.
It's not immoral.
But that's different than because I've listened to you for an hour criticize and say that this is negative.
Look what they're doing.
It's bad.
Look what they're doing.
Well, yeah, because she called me a whore back, but you know, I'm not wiping.
But your original criticism was saying she's being dishonest.
She should, Rachel.
I need a video.
I need a video.
I need a 10-minute video.
I need a 10-minute video.
This is incredible.
I didn't realize how much, I didn't remember how much she caped for her.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Have posted this.
No.
My original criticism.
Then what was the point of this whole stream?
You know that you and I are friends and we get along fine.
So I feel like if I ask you the questions, you can take it.
I'm saying, so what's wrong with a 21-year-old girl who just got engaged posting the picture being moral, but again, I would say it's gaslighting me to say that you are not trying to signal status and seek attention by that post, but it's not it's i don't think raw wow this is incredible
it's status but if it is if it's status good I want more.
More of that.
I want all the 21-year-old girls.
That's status posting that getting.
Well, that's that's it's it's totally fine that you feel that way, but it turns off a lot of people when that's what women do.
Why?
It sounds turns off a lot of people.
You don't like it, it turns off a lot of people when it's like a holier than thou attitude, right?
You know, and then the reason it turns the reason it turns off a lot of people, the reason it turns, well, again, if women stayed married, that would be one thing, but like Crowder did the same thing and he wound up, you know, and then it doesn't get married young.
They didn't get married young, they didn't get married.
But they built their brand off of marriage, right?
And that's fine.
It's fine.
I'm not saying it's immoral.
It's not immoral, but it's not really the tradition that conservatives in general are selling.
I don't know her very well.
So when I saw the original post, I've seen like five, like, I've had like five posts this year that are the same thing.
It's the ring, right?
But the point of the post is, look at the resources I can acquire that I can get a guy to do.
Look at this nice thing this guy did for me.
I am high status.
That's what it's signaling.
Not a bad thing, right?
It's not a bad thing.
But, you know, I don't think I'm immoral for noticing that.
Okay.
So that's a different thing.
Carter was 25 when he got married.
The thing that you just said was a different claim.
So I agree with you on the ring thing.
And I made a post where it's because this.
I'm getting pissed.
Holy shit.
What the fuck?
What was this bullshit?
Oh my God.
Started a trend of women posting their rings online.
I did not post a picture of my ring.
I posted a picture of Andrew because I said he's the prize and that I am after 18 years.
I am still.
And Pearl knows this, you guys.
She's seen behind this.
She's seen me drooling behind the scenes that I am, I'm madly in love with this guy.
I have been since the day I laid eyes on him.
Nothing has changed.
If anything, I love him more now than I did back then.
I have a tiny ring that a woman made fun of me for on the whatever podcast.
I thought that was like, I agree with you about that.
The ring was that was, I didn't like that comment.
This was the original post.
I gave her a compliment.
I said, the hottest right-wing e-girl is taken off the market.
Conservative, conservative women.
And I was actually trying to do that to be friendly because I knew you liked her, right?
So I was trying to say this isn't a personal thing, but conservative women will always use their marriage and family to build their brand.
That's a fact.
And that's that's the connotation is negative.
So I understand what you were saying because I know you, but she doesn't.
So she probably assumed that because the connotation there sounds negative, like this is a bad thing they're all doing.
I'm, I'm just noticing, but it's a bad trend.
Well, right.
I mean, if you want to take it that way, I think a lot of men will perceive it as negative because a lot of men view value privacy, right?
But, you know, it's not a personal thing.
That's the way the trends are going.
My job is to find trends.
So then she crashed out.
And then, you know, she calls me a whore and I didn't insult her.
I didn't.
So it's like, why are you crashing out?
If it doesn't apply, let it fly.
I still have no idea who this lady is with the ring.
I don't care.
It must be a female thing.
Yeah.
Well, the thing about the right-wing eager brawl is that intrasexual competition makes the world go round, baby.
And if women weren't cat fighting, I mean, we wouldn't be, you know, like, what would we even be in reality if the women weren't cat fighting on X?
And you, you know what?
I'm glad that this dumpster fire, I'm just getting to sit back and watch it this time because it's usually me that's in the middle of it.
For once, it's not.
We have, Isabella.
And this is entertaining.
Stop pretending like you aren't sending screenshots to all of your friends.
You know what?
I just said it separately to you guys.
Okay, let's do I care.
And yeah, I even made it.
But don't you think it would be more genuine if women gave up power first?
But it's like you're saying, like, let me get power to get more followers than my husband and more money than my husband.
And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not even talking about Rachel.
I'm just talking about in general.
But still want the traditional Rachel, you power hungry.
Sorry, no, I'm not.
I'm not literally just said women do not talk over.
I will respect your show.
I'm so sorry.
Not sorry.
I didn't even mean to say Rachel.
I meant to say Sarah.
But like in general, it's like women like, I just think it's kind of like we just want the best of everything.
We want like the freedom of the internet.
We want the freedom of like talking online and also the virtue signal points of like being married and the virtue signal points of like say like you know doing this right-wing e-girl stuff.
Like that's that's go ahead.
Absolutely.
And I think what women have wrong here is just say that you're virtue signaling.
Say that it's obviously trendy if you're a right-wing e-girl to be like, hey, got married.
I had a kid.
I'm doing the things.
Like Rachel just, you know, complimented me on that.
Guess what?
Yes.
In a few posts, I have capitalized on that.
She's embarrassed her husband on the internet recently.
I like her, but it's, oh, I can't listen to this anymore.
It's just too, that was just crazy.
Wow.
Yeah, but everything I said would happen came true.
Literally.
Everything I said would happen came true.
Why am I crashing?
Because that was just exhausting to listen to.
Oh my God.
You're late and lost.
Okay.
Months ago, I had a post talking about how Sarah Stock was using her marriage and her ring to build her brand online.
Rachel came in and defended her.
And it turned out she was fucking the girl who was using her ring for clout was banging her boss.
Moody and her husband.
I did predict a divorce for them.
I did.
I did.
I don't, I don't, but I don't really see most marriages working out, to be honest.
I predicted divorce for everyone, pretty much.
So unfortunately.
So, what do you think?
What do you think?
I don't like to, I don't really like to look.
I'll tell you what.
I did have a public relationship once.
I completely did when I was younger.
And it crashed and burned so hard that I just will never do it again.
Like.
It was just, yeah, you know, I will never.
I will never reveal that much again.
That was just, oh my god.
And I know I could tell you I never want to overshare about like previous relationships or like.
I don't know there's something about like, but there were some lessons I learned from that.
When it comes to like the public stuff, I mean, you just start arguing because of public perception over things when you're super revealing of your relationship and people will pretend it doesn't bother them.
But at some point either I would say something to embarrass him.
He said something, he did something to embarrass me.
Like people get like people are trying to convince you.
It's kind of like the same problems you have when a woman's like family gets involved or her friends get involved.
That causes problems in a relationship because you have people in your ears right and now you have the internet in your ears.
Yeah, so yeah, and it's just um.
I've said it before.
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I think the smartest people can tune people out and i've noticed really intelligent people.
They can do this really quickly.
Like my dad, i'll send him a video and if the guy says one thing he doesn't like, he'll just stop watching it.
he's like oh why would i listen to him to all of the e-girls on twitter see why you would be kind of bitter
To all of the e-girls talking shit, I don't even wish you to get hit.
To all of the e-girls who came for me, to all of the e-girls that came for me, this bit, god damn it.
To all of the e-girls that came for me, this is gonna be my final plea.
To all of the e-girls that were talking shit, it's time to show me wait, it's time to show me how traditional you are.
Just apologize.
I wanna, I want to hear the words that you were wrong.
Just apologize.
Tell me I was right all along.
I want to hear these words word for word.
Say pearl, you were right pearl, I was wrong.
Please stop singing these stupid songs.
Pearl, I was wrong pearl, you were right.
All of you just need to apologize apologize apologize, apologize.
Now I know a lot of you have big ass egos and you shouldn't, because you said that you weren't a hoe.
And I'm sure you tell your husband that you were wrong all the time.
So why?
So why don't you so?
Why don't you show me all of the practicing that you've done, apologizing to your husband and apologize to me?
Do it like this, one two three One two three, Apologize.
Apologize for talking shit about Pearl and spreading all the lies Apologize, Apologize.
Say I'm so sorry for having such a big ego.
Say I'm so sorry for I'm so sorry for defending that home.
Say I was wrong and you were right.
I'm tired of this big fight.
Just apologize, apologize to me and I and I'm gonna say that I was right until the end of time just apologize apologize, thank you, thank you, I'm waiting.
Rachel, I love you, but I need one from you Savannah, I need one from you.
Moody knows why I don't need an apology from her, but we'll keep that between us.
Moody knows why I don't need an apology from her Tim pool apologize Matt Walsh, apologize.
And I want to hear I?
What about from Sarah?
Yeah right, I'm not stupid, we're not getting apologize.
If she wants to, she can apologize to.
This would be my song for Sarah.
Sarah, it turns out you're a whore.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have herpes sores, because you were banging Elijah and he was banging everybody, so that wouldn't really shock me if you caught something from that body.
Now you've embarrassed your husband online in 2026.
That should be a crime.
It turns out that you were banging.
It turns out you were banging your boss while you were wearing a Jesus cross and Elijah.
I kind of got beef with you Because you said that you'd moderate a debate between us two.
And you told me that it would be a fair debate.
What the fuck?
You told me that while you were fucking her up.
What is wrong with all of you people?
I don't understand it.
I don't get it.
What the fuck is wrong with all of you people?
Please don't let me forget it.
Now look, I'm not a saint in a lot of ways.
I'm a hypocrite, too.
I mean, I didn't come to these conclusions just out of the blue.
But I really, I try not to have a big ego.
I really try to be humble and modest, you know.
But Sarah, the way that you talk to me while you were having a complete hoeing spree, that was just incredible.
Doing that, you know, while you were being a hoe on the down low.
And look, we've all hoed a little.
And some of us have hoed a lot.
But you know, you can't make a wife out of a thought.
And really, Sarah and Elijah, too, the two of you owe an apology to me because that was some bullshit.
You both attacked me and said, Pearl, you don't have a family.
Well, now none of us do.
Congratulations to you and you and you.
Now, I don't know the answers.
I can't predict the future.
But what I am sick of is this bullshit.
What kind of a fair debate?
You're telling me that was going to be a fair debate.
That was going to be a fair debate.
Elijah said, Pearl, come debate us on the ring controversy.
Come on my platform and debate that Sarah is not posting her ring for clout while I am actively fucking her.
What the fuck is that?
What was that?
But look, ladies, Giving Gal and I have a lot of kindness.
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So I'll forgive each and every one of you.
But you really need to apologize to me.
And it can't be out of the blue.
Say, Pearl, you were right.
Pearl, don't you dare put up a fight.
Hey, Pearl, I was wrong and you were right.
Hey, Pearl, I was wrong and you were right.
Now, the apology could get better as you could get more and more details.
You could talk about how wrong you were.
I need your face on camera and I need you to say it with the arrogance that you said it before.
And Nick, Nick, look, I gotta do a little part of my song to you too.
I'm sure you won't even see it.
But why did you have to white night?
It was kind of bullshit, all right.
You tweeted that their faith is genuine, really.
He says, who cares?
She fucked her boss.
Now, look, I'm going to explain it for the people in the back.
Now, water is wet.
The sky really is blue.
Conservative commentators cheat on their wives.
They do that too.
And nobody really cares about that, you know.
You see?
But it's the fact the way you guys were talking to everybody and you are making money off of your religions, Catholicism, while fucking her.
Like, do you not see why people are like you're using Catholicism for money?
And now you're going to white knight?
Really?
Yeah.
So thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, it's the Lord's name.
Oh, and then on top of that, I got one more verse for Nick.
On top of that, Nick, you're going to come at us for gossiping?
Really?
Let me get this straight.
I'm a gossiper, sure.
But they were fucking each other while profiting off of Catholicism.
Isn't that worse?
Shouldn't we condemn that first?
Thank you.
Thank you.
anyways, um, I think that's all I got today.
Feel free to post clips from that stream on X because I don't know if he will love it, you know, but I just got to be real with it.
I was really disappointed.
I gotta, I was disappointed in him.
And I know this is me nagging, and I come at women for nagging.
So it's like, Pearl, stop nagging, but it's just church people are not beating the allegations of being white knights and simps.
So anyways, thanks for watching guys.
I love you.
I had a great stream today.
had a lot of fun um do you guys you guys like the bangs I don't know.
I caught them myself.
I was like, I think I messed them up, but whatever.
If any e-girl wants to apologize, feel free to search the internet for anyone else that owes me an apology for this ringgate.