Pearl Davis critiques the Sarah Stock scandal—where conservative commentator Elijah Schaefer allegedly used fraud and infidelity to exploit religious traditions—highlighting how such betrayals fuel young men’s hesitation to marry amid cultural decay, financial risks (e.g., $200K in legal fees), and 70–90% female-initiated divorce rates. She contrasts Matt Walsh’s idealized marriage rhetoric with real-world struggles, like men facing lifelong alimony or women weaponizing children for political gain, while defending marriage as a vocation offering legacy and purpose. The episode ties these failures to broader conservative birth trends and warns that societal collapse looms if men avoid commitment entirely, despite systemic risks. [Automatically generated summary]
Stop Telling Ladies They're Worth the Wait00:02:10
What is up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Thank you guys for being here with me.
I love, I love talking to you guys and having a good time.
So we're going to start the show.
There's so many women out there that say they're one thing when they're really another.
I don't need to tell you what she's doing with another brother.
And you might think I've half found this chicken.
She's so different.
But you don't know what she was doing before you met.
And one day you're going to find out and never forget.
Never, never forget.
Stop simping.
Start pimping.
I'm tired of all this blind simping.
Stop telling girls that they're so great.
Stop telling ladies that they're worth the wait.
Stop simping.
Start pimping.
Stop simping.
What up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
I just took my dog out, so she might bark and I might have to have her leave the room.
She's chilling now, but sometimes.
All right.
So I start the show by telling you guys random stuff about my life.
I think I'm getting kind of close to my front splits.
It's kind of exciting.
I'm kind of autistic.
I'll tell you how I do my day every day.
I do piano lessons and guitar lessons.
And I've done this every day pretty much for the last like year and a half that I'm home.
Random Life Updates00:06:41
If I travel, I don't.
And my goal is I want to be a really good pianist.
Although I've only been playing piano for a year.
I've like known a little bit, like, but like traditional lessons for a year.
And I'm almost through book two.
If anyone cares.
This one.
And that's always how I start my day.
And then I usually go to the gym.
And my thought is if I want to be a woman that does media in her 30s, I got to be in shape.
You can be a little chunky in your 20s, but in your 30s, ladies, you know.
So I've really focused a lot on my nutrition this year.
Sort of.
And it's really, because that's been my Achilles heel.
This last month, I really haven't been the best because I've been traveling and more.
I mean, just giving excuses, right?
I just, you know, made poor choices this month.
So I gotta, I gotta get back into it.
So I signed up for a half marathon in three months.
But when it comes to nutrition, I found I have found that chat GPT really has been life-saving for me because it tells me why everything's good and bad that I eat.
And it, it, I don't know, I remember things better when I know why I'm doing them.
And so if you just say eat protein, but I don't know why I'm eating protein, I like won't remember it.
I don't care.
I don't maybe like, I've always found I'm a little bit retarded, but I work really hard for a woman, right?
Really, for a man, but I'm a little bit dumb.
So, like, every time I've had a boss, I always got a recommend letter of recommendation.
I never, I never got fired.
Well, there was one time, but it was a job I didn't care about.
Okay, that one didn't count because I didn't care about that job.
So, but in general, if I like tried at a job, I always did well.
Um, but I'll tell you the story of how I got fired if you want, but I didn't care.
It was like a temporary job, I was only supposed to do it for a month.
I know you got fired, but I didn't, anyways.
So, what'll happen is I work a lot harder than most women.
I can't, probably not most men, right?
Maybe a good chunk of black men, if I'm being honest.
Um, but no, no, this isn't a put down, it's just to know your strengths and your weaknesses.
I'm a hard worker.
Like, when I was, um, when I was uh volleyball, when I played volleyball, I was on the worst team.
There's three teams: it went black, red, white team, and I was on white.
And I didn't even get to play on white when I started when I was like 14.
I was like a benchwormer on white.
And every year I moved up.
So the next year, I started on like 15 white.
Then I went on to 16 red.
And I remember when I made red, that was like one of the proudest I ever was because I was on the white team for two years.
And I was like, I want to get off of this white team.
And then I made it 17, I was on red.
And then 18, I made it to the top team.
And it was, it was cool because I was on the bottom team.
And my dad always told me a Canon event for me was, you know, my dad telling me that you are going to beat people in life because you work hard.
And I do, right?
I know I do for a woman.
For a woman.
So I always have a working list of like goals I'm working on.
And recently, because I was so involved in sports, there was just a lot of life skills I kind of missed out on.
You got to have to understand my upbringing.
Now, my upbringing was I went to Catholic school.
I went to Catholic school my entire life.
And I went to a Catholic school for high school that was 30 minutes away, 35.
And in traffic, it was 45 minutes.
And my volleyball was 45 minutes from my school.
And I also played basketball.
So I did two sports.
So in the winters, I would have, I would go after school at three o'clock.
My basketball practice would be 3:30 to like 5:30, let's say.
And then I would have to get to Sky High, which was the volleyball club I played at by 7:45.
Or it was like seven-ish.
And then I would have a seven to nine practice.
So then I got back at like 10 o'clock at night.
I'd have to do homework.
I did skip my, my mom let me skip my first period a lot because she said that.
I don't know.
I was like a good kid in high school.
I'm not saying I didn't do anything.
Like I threw one party when I was 18, but in general, I was a good kid.
Like I, I really, I don't know.
This is why, like, I'm not going to pretend I'm a saint, but I just know these other bitches are going to have crazier stuff come out because I work too hard and you just can't, you know, the little demon time I've had in my life, I just haven't had the full amount of time to like to, you know, demon time.
You know what I mean?
Like, because the way I think is I don't want to waste my life not like I really want to be able to play an instrument fluently or whatever you want to say.
Like, I'm just addicted to learning, I think.
I'm addicted like to learning.
So I just always want to learn.
So anyways, there was a lot of, I think, growing up, when I was a kid, I was raised by nannies.
So, I really, my primary caretaker till I was 10 was like rotating nannies.
I had, they're from all over the world.
And I don't know, maybe I was lazy, but for some reason, or it was just who I was as a person or the sports.
I don't know.
But there were life skills I skipped over.
I did not learn.
I did not learn how to cook.
I did not learn how to clean.
And I really, the last few years, I've learned it as an adult, and it's so fun.
it's so freeing did i get in trouble for the party i Okay, I'll tell you the story of the party I threw.
I think some people have heard it, but there's always new people on the channel.
So I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I did.
Men's Rights Misconceptions00:04:56
All right.
So I want you guys to understand the amount of freedom I had as a high schooler.
When I got older, I did ask my father, I said, Dad, why did you give me so much freedom as a kid?
Like when I was a kid, I never had a curfew.
I could kind of come and go whenever I, probably because my dad was starting a software company.
So he was gone a lot.
He went to India for weeks at a time.
Like, my dad is the hardest worker I've ever met.
I look up to him so much.
He's really awesome.
Learn how to clean.
There's more that goes into it.
Okay.
It's a system.
You got to dust for, look, shut up.
Okay.
Shut up.
Sorry.
Okay.
I don't, I don't need you to, I don't need you to nag me here.
I get it.
You're better than me.
Hold on.
Oh my gosh.
I got to play my, there's a, a package here.
So let me, I got to, let me play my divorce documentary trailer because I need to sign for this.
What's in it for men?
Okay, hold on.
I'll remind me to tell you guys a story when I get back because I'll probably forget.
All right.
Now we're going to go back full screen.
This clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question: Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the TradCon versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
You guys say, get married young.
A lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about 200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, free Shretch, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
Men's Struggle Exposed00:03:25
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 200K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm overage.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you simp for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
What up, guys?
So the time has come where we are finally doing this divorce documentary.
It's by far the biggest and most ambitious project I've ever embarked on.
And I need your help.
For every $1 you donate, you could potentially save an innocent man from losing hundreds of thousands in child support payments.
Do you have a message that you want to send to your ex-wife that you didn't get out in the divorce proceedings?
Well, for $20,000, we'll include it in the documentary, a video message to your ex-wife.
And if we raise $500,000, we actually can finish this documentary.
If we raise a million dollars, we can make it a Netflix-level documentary.
If you want to invest a significant amount in this, hit up JustPearlyThings at gmail.com for advertisements and profit sharing.
All right, what up, guys?
What up?
What up?
All right.
So I had to get, if you see, this is a little bit of a mess right now.
I know I was just saying I was cleaning.
It's kind of okay.
But, you know, we're building a music studio.
So they have to come back.
We're waiting on some equipment.
20K for a video message.
Hey, hey, just let me look.
We found out that I underestimated the expenses of this documentary.
So we have it like 80% covered, but I think I need to raise another 50K.
So I'm just saying, you know, just pearlythings at gmail.com if you want it to be you.
You know, there's always more stuff you don't think about.
You know what I mean?
First Party Experience00:09:02
Doc, thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
20 bucks.
Something for 20K, you know.
But it's all right.
It's all right.
You guys are hardworking men.
You're like, stop begging me for money, bitch.
Okay, back to the party story.
So you wanted to hear about the party.
So when I was in high school, I was a pretty good kid.
I'm not going to say I never did anything like, but this is the one thing I did.
So the level of freedom, I asked my dad, I said, Dad, why did you give us so much freedom as a kid?
And he said, if you don't learn to make decisions as a kid, you are never, you're going to go into a world and never have made a single decision in your life and not know how to make decisions.
So that was something really important to my parents.
And when I was a kid, volleyball, I did travel volleyball.
I made it to the top team at my club.
So when I was 16, I was home alone for an entire month in the summer.
An entire month, I was by myself alone.
I did nothing with this freedom.
I just, you know, all my friends at the time were saying, oh, make sure you, you know, you should throw a party, whatever.
I didn't do it.
But the second summer, I was home alone because I graduated high school when I was 17.
So I was 17.
It was my final, my final, final last hurrah after I graduated high school.
And I decided I was going to have a party, but it wasn't going to be a rager.
It was just going to be, I grew up in a 10-bedroom mansion, right?
It was like a 10,000 square foot house.
I grew up in a giant house.
And I decided I was going to throw a party, but it was going to be a small party.
And this was like a three-day, it was like a weekend, four-day bender.
And day one, I just had three people over.
It was like my best friend, my two best friends, and then our like male friend.
And we drank and we partied and it was fun, but it was just four people.
And it was fine.
Then the next day there was 10 people.
We partied and it was fine.
And mind you, I think in my entire high school, I drank like one other time.
Before I went to college, I just never, I remember doing it at Country Thunder.
You guys better not use this against me later.
That was the one festival I've ever gone to.
It was Country Thunder.
And there's the other one.
Country Thunder.
I think that was the first time I drank.
And that was the first summer.
But I did that with my mom.
So it was supervised.
So the first time I drank was with my mother.
I don't know.
Is that bad?
Is that bad parenting?
I don't know.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
So, anyways, the next summer, I get to, I get the house to myself.
And I end up having 20 people over.
And this 20 people, we went pretty hard.
We drank, we, we like drank, like, we all, we didn't have any beer.
We drank hard liquor.
Okay.
This was a rager, but it was only 20 people, right?
In a 10,000 square foot house, that's really not that bad.
And the next day, I made sure I cleaned up and the mess was good.
And I left and I met my family on vacation.
Now, a few days later, my parents came home first and then I came home after.
And my parents sat me down and said, Do you have something to tell me?
And I'm like, no, what do I have to tell you?
And they said, there is a bag of beer in the trash.
And I said, now I'm a little bit confused.
I'm like, they must be messing with me because I didn't drink beer at the party.
We did not drink beer.
I mean, reckless.
I'm just saying I had two months of freedom to do whatever I wanted these two summers.
I threw one like three days.
I drank.
I had a party with 20 people.
Do you know what I could have done?
My siblings did way worse.
They did way worse.
That's two people per bedroom.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
I'm just saying, I don't think that's that crazy.
Okay.
It was wrong.
It was wrong.
It was the wrong thing to do.
But I don't think it's insane.
I really don't.
Could have done.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not that high risk when it comes.
I don't like getting in trouble, you know.
And what happened was, so there was one guy who had house set for us before.
I'm going to call him.
I need to change names.
So people, people go and find these people.
So I'm going to call him John.
His name was not John, but I'm going to call him John.
And John was kind of, he was like my best friend in high school.
I actually had a crush on him.
He did not like me.
I was friend zoned.
He, he then, he friend zoned me and then banged my best friend.
He was not into me, right?
So we just became friends.
We were pals, whatever.
And nothing romantic ever happened.
And so we end up going, yeah, he was John.
Yeah, he was kind of a Chad.
He was kind of, he banged two of my best friends.
He dated one forever.
I think they're still together.
I know.
John came back to the house and threw a party after I left.
And invited people and left a mess and got me in trouble.
And because he came back, him and like three other guys I was friends with, and they lied to my face about it.
I couldn't believe it.
I know they threw a party without me there at my house.
Yep.
And then my dad, because he found the bag of beer, I got caught.
They went through my phone, found out about all the parties.
I mean, it wasn't that bad, but and I'll tell you, fuck it.
I'll, oh my God, should I tell you guys about oh my fuck it.
I'm gonna, I'm this is gonna get clipped on Twitter, oversharing, clipped.
Um, do I really care?
I don't care anymore now.
Mind you, I had never a weed smoker, okay?
But I'm not gonna pretend I've never smoked weed.
Like, can we just be real for a second?
It's never been a regular part of my lifestyle, but you know, this was the first time I ever tried it.
This is the first time I ever tried it, and I hated it, and I still hate it to this day.
But the John guy was a big pothead, like he was the pothead.
Um, I mean, this wasn't the best week of my life, but this was pretty exciting.
Like, my whole life was just volleyball, basketball, volleyball.
So, this was pretty exciting for me.
Well, I was 16 or 17 when this happened.
And they, I, so there's the weed here, and they took a picture of me.
Like, like, I didn't like it, I thought it was disgusting.
And so, this picture, the John guy sent to our friend group.
It never got out.
Maybe it'll circulate on Twitter someday.
But they thought it was funny because I looked so disgusted by it.
Like, I was like, ugh.
Now, when they went through my phone, I texted someone, hey, delete the picture of me with the weed.
So my dad goes through my phone and, um, I think this is the most disappointed I've ever seen my father.
Um, he was so disappointed that I smoked weed.
He thought I was a pothead, but I'd only smoked it one time.
Now, I'm not going to pretend I never did it again, but I just never liked it.
Like, what would happen would be like every two or three years, someone would ask me, and I'd say, F it.
You know, it's been forever.
Never Liked Coke00:02:51
Maybe I'll like it this.
And I never have liked it.
And I always get like accusations of being a pothead.
Like, apparently, I have a pothead look, but I don't like weed.
I just don't, it's just not my thing.
I enjoy alcohol, and I probably would drink it regularly, but I'm too much of a health nut.
I wish, um, do I like?
I've never done Coke.
I've been offered Coke a lot of times, but that was just a little bit too hard of a drug for me.
Again, I'm just not like people, you know.
I went to Amsterdam when I was 18 and like I could have did a lot of drugs there and it's just not my thing.
No, the drinks I like are the sugariest, worst drinks for you.
I like, um, like I like pure sugar cocktail drinks that are like 400 calories each.
That's what I like.
Like, what do I like to eat?
What do I let myself eat, or what do I like to eat?
I like pure sugar drinks.
I like straight carbs.
And I'm forced to live in a world where I have to be, I have to date, I have to date Pookie and Ray Ray if I choose to eat like that.
Now, you know, sober is the best.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree that sober is the best.
I think alcohol is a tool.
There are times when you are so socially awkward as a person that you need a little bit of a tool to help you relax.
I don't think it's a bad thing to have a drink or two, you know, like on a date.
Like you might, on a first date, you might be hooking up.
I mean, there's nervousness, there's awkwardness, whatever, right?
If you're just not like an outgoing person, it can ruin your life.
But like, um, you know, so
Why Some Men Opt Out00:14:58
anyways, I ended up, so the first, I went to Country Thunder with my mom when I was 16.
And then the year after, I got La La Palooza and Country Thunder tickets, and they made me sell them.
And I never went to festivals after because, again, it always came down to I didn't want to get fat.
And I always just felt like going to these festivals would send me back.
And even when I was fat, I didn't want to get fatter.
Or I would want to do my music lessons.
Like, I don't know.
Maybe I'll start raging when I get through my music lessons.
And when I get when I, cause I always had these goals.
I wanted to get a really good body.
I wanted to have a YouTube channel.
I wanted to learn music.
I want to do the splits now.
And I want basic, like, I would say I have basic cooking and cleaning skills, but I want to, I want, there's a level up where I'm going to get to where I'll be happy.
And I always felt like once I'm done with all that, I can, I can rage.
Lollapalooza sucks.
Well, back then, everyone loved it, but I never, I just never spent a lot of time going.
I almost went.
Me and Lily are actually feuding.
Thoughts on Lily Gaddett?
She's cool.
I actually like her.
I think she's a good sport.
I mean, she's a woman, right?
So that's going to come with its deficiencies, as it does for all of us.
But yeah, she's a good sport.
Pearl, would you cook for me?
Give me 20 grand.
20 grand.
Please drink responsibly.
Guys, I'm 29.
Like, if I'm not drinking responsibly at this age, I'm cooked.
I'm done.
She had no idea the thoughts that sent us.
Well, I don't know.
I just want to get my splits.
Today I'll show you my Twitter as we start the show.
let's see.
Okay.
I did have to cook Lily.
See, again, when women do this, right?
Sorry, Lily.
It's got to be you today.
She's using her kid to signal status and build her reputation.
Like, you got to think about what is the point of this post.
Having a child is nice.
And it's using your kid for marketing because we all know social media is a funnel for simps and high status men to hit on you.
So that's essentially what you have going on there.
People, you know, it's the same thing.
They're doing what Sarah Stock did, using marriage to build their brand.
And when she does some horse shit or he does some bullshit stuff, it's going to bite them in the ass.
And I don't feel bad for you.
oh did elijah um okay this post i thought explained the sarah stock situation really well Don't let, oh my God, I can't talk.
All right.
Don't let anyone reframe the Sarah Stock situation as a Puritan scandal or what have you.
Schaefer sleeping with an employee isn't relevant.
The problem is that he paid some grifting whore to lie to his and her audiences about being trad, using religion as her arguments, even as she cheated on her fiancé, lied to him about everything and ruined his life, knowingly contracted an invalid wedding, got the Pope to bless it anyway, and posted an image of her and her haunted womb staring down the Pope as she smugly stands next to the man she cuckholded for the better part of the year.
The problem isn't that you have people attacking you for things you already repented of or what have you.
It's that you were selling a product and lied to every person who ever supported you in order to do it.
That's fraud.
And you would have never come clean or revealed it on your own.
Yeah.
And that's why people are pissed.
Like, and I try to make this clear.
I'm not judging her.
But I just can't, you know, it's like the fraud just ran so deep.
I am a little bit excited.
Look, you can't, when my enemies have their downfall, you know, I just whatever.
Shut up.
All right.
Today I ran.
This is my ugly selfie from the gym.
I don't know if I should have put this in the background, but whatever.
I only ran a mile and a half total today.
So it was kind of slow, but I took that at 15 minutes because I wanted to walk the rest.
All right, let's see.
This is the guy who got cooked.
All right.
So today I want to talk about how nobody has men's best interests at heart.
Now, what you have is you have high status men and low status men.
Now, I would say high status men are all the influencers and commentators.
They get to, you know, mingle with world leaders.
They have a lot of influence.
They have a good amount of power.
On top of that, you know, well, business owners, men that make over a certain amount a year, I would say would be high status men, high earning, high status.
But they do not think about the average man and how the average man is affected by marriage.
So in my experience, so I've interviewed people for our divorce documentary.
I tried it the first time around.
I tried to make my divorce documentary and these crazy people stopped it.
I got deplatformed, all this stuff.
So I had to redo it.
But when I was making it the first time, I was getting all this footage, right?
And I was interviewing people.
And I found that the people that got it the worst were not the rich men in family court.
Because a lot of times the rich men, I mean, they can afford a lawyer.
They can afford to fight.
Although some maybe got unlucky and got a terrible judge.
The guys that got it the worst were men that were in the middle class.
They can't afford to pay lawyers.
They can't afford to fight for their kids.
And so a lot of high status men, the only reason Matt Walsh can do what he does is because of the average men, right?
The average men work in the factory that's building his microphone.
The average men do the construction on the road so he gets to work.
The average men do the plumbing in his building.
It's not the men.
He would not be able to do his job without the men that allow him to be there.
But he still is telling average men to take, make decisions as a high status man.
Sometimes marriage makes sense for men in high status positions.
You know, sometimes it can be done.
You know, in all of history, we've had dowries.
And so marriage was done to accure resources.
You know, you married a rich bitch and then you got her daddy's money.
Sometimes it's genetics, right?
But average men, the issue with Matt Walsh is it doesn't matter how bad the chessboard is.
He keeps telling average men, keep sacrificing for, keep sacrificing for me and my kids.
I have a wife.
I have a family.
But average men, most of them aren't going to get it.
I would say half of men are not going to be able to reproduce.
So he's saying sacrifice for society because it benefits my children.
All right.
So.
Today, the Matt Walsh show, a sex scandal among conservative influencers perfectly illustrates why many young men are reluctant to get married and have children, but they still should, even in spite of the risks.
And I'll make that argument today.
Also, tragedy strikes the nation as the Washington Post lays off hundreds of useless journalists.
Bill Gates tries to explain his appearance in the Epstein files, and a woke school board member brings a school board meeting to a halt so that she can lecture someone for using the term homeless.
Apparently, unhoused is the preferred term, although nobody can explain why.
All of that and more today in the Matt Walsh show.
Now, mind you, when you go down, look at these comments.
So let me keep going and then we can talk about it later.
You Then the Elijah Schaefer scandal surfaced, revealing that Schaefer, a conservative commentator who is married and has children, was apparently having an affair with Sarah Stock, who's a conservative commentator, and who at the time was dating the man that she would eventually marry.
This has been interesting timing because it's a story that perfectly illustrates the counter argument, the reason why so many young people are so reluctant to get married and have children in the first place.
Now, as to the specifics of the scandal, I'll go into a few of the details in a moment, not because this is a drama channel, but because it's the kind of thing we must contend with if we want to make the case for marriage and family life.
Now, if I were to try to do a monologue right now on-by the way, the challenge with using your relationship to build your brand, it's just never a good idea.
It is not a good idea because Who are they going to attack first?
Like, let's say you got an enemy as a guy.
He's going to hit on your wife.
Now he knows where to find her.
You know, like, I'm like, what are you doing?
You guys are dumb.
That topic.
All the comments would be, well, what about this?
You see this scandal over here?
This is exactly why we don't want to get married.
So let's just lean into that as much as I hate that phrase.
You know, I think that those of us on the pro-family side oftentimes, it's true to say, haven't done a good enough job of acknowledging and accounting for the enormous risks and downside to marriage that young people are confronting at increasing rates, no matter how hard they try to find a compatible, moral, Christian spouse.
This is the catch-22.
Our culture is decaying.
In order to stop the decay, we need people to form stable and loving.
So he's saying, stop the decay of our culture.
Now, again, he's not looking out for you.
He's looking out for himself because he doesn't want to live in this culture.
Right?
Families, but it's harder to form stable and loving families while the culture is decaying.
Now, people in the red pill and so-called manosphere spaces have been making this point for a long time and have taken a lot of heat for it.
I've had plenty of arguments with people on that side about this.
Entire shows on Netflix have been written about how awful their opinions are and how they've created this manosphere that traffics in dangerous misogyny and so on.
But you know, the truth is, when the writer's room at Netflix is so enraged about your views that they start putting you in their shows, then it means that you're on to something.
Now, let's talk about this issue from the perspective of a young man.
And to anyone who accuses me of only blaming the woman in this story, keep in mind that we talked about this yesterday and I spent yeah, because the man, Elijah's goaded a little bit for banging all these e-girls.
Like, if you look at Elijah's alleged roster, okay.
Now, I don't know if these are true or untrue, but I'm just saying this is alleged.
And the fact that this is alleged is pretty goaded.
Okay.
Sorry, Emily, you're on the list.
True or untrue.
I don't know, but I'm not really going to believe you.
She's pretty hot.
Okay.
Young Emily, like she's pretty hot.
Pretty hot.
Okay.
Then we got Sarah Stock.
Pretty hot.
Savannah Hernandez, I think, was the other one.
Pretty hot.
All right.
Especially young.
You just can't, you can't tell me that these women are not hot.
Like, that's a little bit impressive.
Now, you might say, yeah, they're mid.
They're mid.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're in conservative media, but how many of you got like five mids on your roster?
Elijah Schaefer.
It's alleged, right?
Sarah Stock that came out.
He did, in fact, do that, but these are alleged.
And there's so many more just like 20 minutes discussing why Schaefer was wrong to cheat on his wife and how married men should behave so that they don't commit those sins.
So we've talked about that.
Today we're going to flip it around and focus on the other side because here's what the story demonstrates.
It's not always enough to say that you should date a woman who goes to church, who says that she opposes abortion, who says that she's never slept with anyone outside of marriage, spends every day talking about conservative principles for a living, and who will, in her case, literally stand by your side in front of the Pope as he blesses both of you.
Now, a woman can do all those things and convince you that she means every word of what she's saying, that she'll be a fantastic mother to your children.
And then you find out one day that, in fact, she was lying to you the whole time.
She was actually having an affair with her boss behind your back.
She was grinning as the Pope blessed your relationship while she was thinking about her other boyfriend.
And here's the thing.
If you don't learn the truth soon enough, then she could, not too far in the future, walk away with half of your assets, including your house, along with alimony for life.
He just made the case.
Sorry, don't get married now.
This is not some fantastical hypothetical scenario.
It's what apparently happened to the man who was engaged to Sarah Stock.
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And look, they're going to make the case and nobody is thinking about the guy who is engaged to Sarah Stock.
Everyone's thinking about Sarah and Elijah.
But the real victim is the guy that married the bride.
Briefly, perhaps briefly, went by the name Sarah Setka.
Sarah's a relative newcomer in the whole trad woman conservative influencer space.
And she put out posts like this one when she got engaged.
This is from August of 2025.
She writes, I won.
You know, it's incredible.
I want to double check.
All these people, Matt Walsh, ring e-girls.
I like how he, look at this.
He covered this story before.
And none of them, I was the only person that said, hey, this is a red flag that she's posting her ring on the internet.
All of the conservatives covered this story.
There's never any humility when I'm proven right.
Ever.
Never any humility.
They all, what a, all right, whatever.
Along with a picture of her engagement ring.
And as you can see there, Charlie Kirk, who was actually an honest and wholesome person, responded, congrats, marriage is amazing.
Lots of people responded that way.
Makes sense to respond.
Someone got engaged.
It's a happy thing.
You say, congratulations.
Then there's this post from Sarah Stock, which she wrote in November of 2024.
Quote, the idea that women are waiting until marriage, who are waiting until marriage are doing it to manipulate men into marrying them so they can leave and take all their money is kind of schizo, in my opinion.
And you probably have a 0.01% chance of that happening.
Anyone who's going to be a forever bachelor and never procreate because they're not willing to take that risk, especially with a woman they love and trust, is NGMI, not going to make it.
Waiting until marriage also has statistically better results for the marriage.
And six months later, in April 2025, Stock announced that she had converted to Catholicism.
Stock wrote, quote, I'm officially Catholic.
And then she wrote, Abe Christus Rex, meaning hail Christ the King.
And then here's the thing.
Had they not made a big spectacle of their religion.
That's why people are pissed because you didn't have to make a big spectacle of your relationship and your religion.
You didn't have to do that.
Nobody put a gun to your head.
It's just incredible.
Her photo with her husband receiving the Pope's blessing.
Bruh.
Was Elijah at the wedding?
That's my question.
Bruh.
There's never any humilities.
Nobody's apologized to me.
Now, I'm not prepared to say, as many have, that her conversion was a scam and she never meant anything she said.
It was all a big ruse.
I can't say, I can't see inside her soul.
Isn't that incredible?
That's how cucked and simpy conservatives are.
You got bamboozled and lied to, and you cannot even say that you got bamboozled and lied to, lied to.
It's just incredible.
The simping never ends.
It never ends.
I was like, we have Nick defending them now, really?
And I kept telling, you know, I was talking to Nick the other day.
I hope he's okay with me talking about this.
But I'm like, Nick, I'm like, Nick, you're going to nag us about gossiping when these people threw their fucking religion and relationship in our faces and called everybody whores.
You didn't have to do that.
None of you guys had to do that.
And that's what I kept trying to say.
I'm like, look, we're not mad because nobody cares if she banged her boss.
Water is wet.
The sky is blue.
we're mad because you guys took the money and you were never, and we're mad because a lot of men see themselves in that guy.
And we're mad because a lot of men see themselves in that guy.
Yeah, so.
So God can figure that out.
It's perfectly possible for a person to profess a.
Oh, and he kept saying like, big deal.
And I'm like, big, really?
Big deal?
Oh, my God.
It was just incredible.
And I was like, I kept telling him, I'm like, you're blackpilling me.
I'm getting blackpilled.
i'm getting blackpilled even further but that's the thing They sacrifice men to slaughter.
That's what the church does.
They sacrifice him to save society and their brands.
Not Nick.
He's, I mean, he's in a tough situation.
I do feel for him, but I was so disappointed.
I'm like, this white knighting, it just has to stop.
I feel a little bad.
You know, I don't think he wants to be involved.
But when he, when I was like, I saw his tweet and it was like, it was like their faith in conversion is genuine.
I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
You have got to be kidding me.
Certain belief and hold that belief and yet act contrary to it.
And we all do that to some extent because we are all sinners.
And yet it's also clear that Sarah was also putting together a carefully crafted image.
Before she was engaged, she appeared on a podcast in which she claimed that she would abstain from sex until marriage in contrast to some other women on the panel who openly admitted that they were extremely promiscuous.
Watch.
You're also religious, correct?
Yeah, I'm a Christian.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Yep.
Have you always waited till marriage?
Yeah.
Yeah, diabolical.
Tits out, Jesus cross.
Diabolical.
Incredible.
You both are virgins.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
Yes.
No shame.
Just.
Okay.
I said, yes.
What's your body count?
It's eight, four.
I can give like around about sure, like 120 120 okay four four eight zero zero zero whoa okay, surrounded by purity yeah, feel it rubbing off on me.
Um now, the point of showing you this uh, all this stuff, is not to gawk at the destruction of a marriage or to gossip about lorid details, of which there are plenty in this case.
We could fill a whole show full of those details if we wanted to.
We won't.
Instead, i'll simply say that Milo Atianopoulos has alleged, with a substantial amount of evidence, that Sarah was in fact sleeping with her boss, Elijah Schaefer, who runs a small conservative media company called RIFF TV, up to the moment that she became engaged to another man named Will.
So, in other words, the allegation is that Sarah was cheating on her boyfriend and future fiancé with her boss, who was a married man at the time, with children.
His wife is now divorcing him apparently, and I I don't understand why Christians don't get angry.
They're using your religion for money and clout and attention.
This is not about god, and you know.
You just watch this over and over and over.
I mean, why do you guys think I feel this way?
Nobody's, nobody's a a bigger trash talker than someone who got fooled, and I bought all this stuff the first half of my 20s.
But i'm like these people do not have your best interests at heart, they don't.
They don't even like even the advice they give women.
It's like wait till marriage when you're not a virgin.
Good luck, good luck with that, even if you are over a certain age.
You just got to put out and the allegation is backed by an audio recording Whichianopoulos obtained, though it's not clear how.
No reason to play that here there.
You know you could listen to that if you want to online.
There are other allegations, even darker and more depraved, that have been made and which I I certainly can't substantiate.
In response to all these allegations, Sarah didn't issue any kind of specific, targeted denial.
She didn't dispute the accuracy of the claims being made exactly.
Instead, she posted the following message to her account on X that says, quote, a lot of what has been said about me is completely untrue.
That being said, there are mistakes, unwise decisions i've made that I deeply regret.
I have sinned.
I apologize to everyone who has been scandalized.
What a wimp.
What a wimp.
You got to eat.
Realized by this.
Please pray, logging off now.
Shortly afterwards, Sarah deleted her account entirely and deleted, I think, her other social media accounts as well.
Now, if you follow this scandal on social media, you'll see that most people, as expected, are talking about it with a sick kind of glee and satisfaction.
But we should never find satisfaction in the sins of others.
I actually it's anger.
It's not glee, it's anger.
I mean, we're happy that people got exposed, because they do this all the time.
They lecture all of us On how to lit, like, I was even thinking, I'm like, the fucking audacity, You are going to lecture me about gossiping, but you won't lecture your friend for cucking her husband.
Go to hell.
I'm like, fuck it.
And I was telling him, I'm like, guys are going to leave the church because of this.
Like the smartest, most intelligent men do not stay in the church.
I'm telling you.
They don't.
All men that I know worth a damn over a certain age, they are not religious, even if they're super moral.
Under a certain age, but when you're a young man, you're naive, right?
When they get older, they leave because they've just seen it too many times.
Too many men get cocked.
And, you know, the response I get is, no, that's not happening.
I'm like, look, too many men were screwed during a divorce where they just believed the woman and they get lectured by some guy doing the same stuff that they're doing, right?
It's just incredible.
Especially when there are real victims involved, spouses and children.
So the point is not to gloat.
I have no reason to anyway.
I have nothing personally against anybody involved in this scandal.
The point is that this story is not the exception.
It's not happening out of nowhere.
There's nothing aberrant about it.
As we talked about yesterday, Elijah Schaefer, Elijah Schaefer's behavior is all too common among some men.
And Sarah Stock is all too representative of how some women, though certainly not all, think and behave these days.
These types of women, they don't see men as potential husbands.
And look, if I go to Walsh's wife, like Walsh, your wife and her bio says her only purpose is to troll Matt Walsh.
Who the fuck would want a wife that's their adversary?
It's not to support you.
It's to troll you.
And it's because you don't have the balls to tell her to stop.
So we're being lectured by a guy who really doesn't have a marriage anybody would want.
And he's telling you to get married.
They don't have your best interests at heart.
They don't.
She might be joking, but you don't, you wouldn't troll your boss every day.
It's because she doesn't respect her husband.
It's obvious.
Husbands to whom they will devote themselves or for whom they will be a loyal and loving helpmate.
They see men as tools they can use dishonestly for a specific purpose.
Consider the fact that as of the most recent data, roughly 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
That's according to research from the American Sociological Association, but plenty of other sources agree on that point.
In fact, the number rises to between 80 and 90% when you only look at highly educated women.
Here's a quote from the American Sociological Association, give you an idea of how they frame the data.
Quote, study author Michael Rosenfeld, an associate professor of sociology at Stanford University, found that women initiated 69% of all divorces compared to 31% of men.
In contrast, there was not a statistically significant difference between the percentage of breakups initiated by unmarried women and men.
Women seem to have a predominant role in initiating divorces in the U.S. as far back as there is data from a variety of sources back to the 1940s, Rosenfeld said.
I think that marriage as an institution has been a little bit slow to catch up with expectations for gender equality.
So that's how left-wing academics present the data.
They blame marriage for being a little bit slow to catch up with expectations.
They don't blame men for cheating on their spouses because, according to the data, that's not what's actually driving the high rates of divorces initiated by women.
But they also know they can't blame women because every academic, without exception, is forced to embrace feminism as a religion.
So they settle on blaming the institution of marriage itself, which ironically enough is exactly.
Here's the problem.
None of you can have a traditional marriage because a traditional marriage, you have to have enforcement.
And in 2026, the only enforcement you have is fucking another bitch.
That's the only consequence she can have.
You don't have a traditional marriage.
You're just playing pretend.
And that's what people are sick of.
We are sick of the commentators lecturing us where they go while they go home and are nagged to death by their wives.
We're sick of the commentators lecturing us while they do not run their household.
And it's very obvious.
You know, Matt Walsh has been on the record saying he can't smoke in his own house.
Well, why not?
If you run it, you don't.
We're sick of being lectured.
Like, it's such bullshit.
You guys are lying.
You are lying.
None of like, no, I have not seen a conservative commentator that has the demeanor that he tells his wife to shut the fuck up.
Why do you think people gravitate towards Andrew Tate?
Because we're sick of these simp-ass dudes who did the same exact thing as everybody else.
They got married late to a woman that wasn't a virgin, probably was ran through, and then lectures all of us.
It's like, fuck you.
The same conclusion that many anti-feminist red pillars come to just by a different route.
And he doesn't even know.
He doesn't even know what the red pill is.
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And what he's pushing is going to lead men to suicide.
If they take his advice, you are not going to be there on the other side.
You are not going to be responsible if they end up committing suicide.
If I push a product, if I push a drug that kills people, I get held responsible for pushing it.
I could get sued.
But he cannot be held responsible for pushing marriage, even with the absurd family court we have today.
And yet if you ask women, they'll tell you exactly why they're getting divorced.
If you take a look at the data, what it tells you is that the primary reasons that women give for divorcing their husbands include that they feel they aren't getting enough attention, their husband is holding back their career, that they, quote, grew apart.
In other words, the woman got bored.
And like Sarah Stock, apparently, they wanted to try something new.
And they convinced themselves that there's nothing wrong with, you know, giving another man a try.
And there's nothing stopping these women from walking into a courtroom, telling the judge they're bored, and taking 50% of their husband's assets along with alimony.
Even in conservative states, they can get away with that.
They can seize your home.
They can seize your retirement account.
They don't even have to lie about what they're doing.
That's where the law is right now.
Among other reasons, this is a major problem because marriage is directly tied to the continued existence of civilization.
Plenty of data shows, as you might imagine, that marriage is directly linked to fertility rates, which seems pretty obvious.
If we want to reverse population decline, then encouraging young people to get married is the way to do it.
But it could be a tough sell for young men as long as the law remains so archaic and so obviously rigged against them.
So why haven't any conservative states abolished no-fault divorce?
Or at the very least, why haven't more states abolished the idea that women are entitled to 50% of their husbands' assets, even if they've been cheating on him the entire time?
As far as I can tell, in the vast majority of states, whether they're community property states or not, a woman can cheat on her husband and still receive half his assets.
There are exceptions, including Texas, but this is the norm.
And that needs to change.
In most cases, women should get $0 if they initiate a divorce.
In most cases they should get nothing.
In fact, in many cases they should be fined for wasting the man's time.
It's not a punitive solution, it's it's one we obviously need because the current system is pathological and how it destroys the lives of innocent young men.
In fact, we should really be discussing criminal penalties for adultery.
There'd be nothing unusual historically about that's always what they want to do.
It's government overreach.
I don't think cheating should be illegal, like it should, and it's completely impractical.
How would you enforce cheating?
Like what is cheating?
Look, if anyone wants to leave, I'm not, I know I used to say that we should, divorce should be illegal, but I disagree.
If someone, maybe the barrier of entry should be higher, but if someone wants to leave, just let them go.
Dispensing prison time or fines or even corporal punishment for adulterers.
What's unusual is having no such penalties in place at all.
We are one of the few societies in history to not treat adultery as a criminal matter.
And I see no evidence that our approach is in any way superior or brings about better results at all.
It's tempting to think that reversing this entire system is impossible, but it's not.
And more to the point, there's reason to believe that in general, conservative women in general are much less of a danger on this front.
Take a look at this data from the U.S. General Social Survey, which was published by republished by the Substack Age of InfoVores.
It shows that the average number of children that are being born to left-wing families in the United States is declining significantly and significantly more rapidly than the number of children who are being born to conservative families.
Okay, what they'll do is they'll say in like it's rising.
Here, let me see.
So it goes from 1.8 to 2.6 in the matter of 15 years.
Like if you have a woman, she's going to be liberal anyway.
So it doesn't even really matter.
Like if you see the data on the children, like the women are bound to be liberal anyway.
And then who really cares?
It's like what from 1.8 to 2.6.
So one kid to two.
Okay.
Families.
In other words, left-wing birth rates are falling far faster than conservative birth rates.
Conservatives are.
Yeah, they just want to gaslight you.
Usually these have small samples.
Like there's usually a catch.
I don't know what this one is.
I'd have to look into it.
But usually if the data doesn't really like it's there's usually a catch to it.
Presumably involved in more stable and fulfilling marriages, the kind that aren't ended early due to an affair or a deceptive spouse or anything like that.
So when you hear about falling birth rates and the collapse of civilization, you should know that the people who want to destroy civilization are going to destroy themselves first.
And while that's not right, but if you have kids, you can't like I just saw an article on Twitter that said, like, look at this.
They did an article on Nick Fuentes' sister, which is kind of fucked up.
But regardless, he has a liberal sister, I guess.
So you could literally have a kid that's Nick Fuentes and your daughter will still be liberal.
Like it's incredible.
Not necessarily an ideal state of affairs.
It's, you know, better than the alternative.
And when you zoom out even wider, there's some other interesting data.
Like, okay, the white non-Hispanic went up 0.45%.
Like, do you see this?
Okay.
That doesn't really change the overall trends.
And what they'll do is they'll say the number, which will sound really big when they say it, even though it's like a small percentage.
So the latest statistics on birth rates, according to preliminary 2025 birth rate data compiled by the CDC, which looks at the mother's ethnicity, white non-Hispanic birth rates have actually increased.
This is selling you guys hope.
The trends are going how they're going, and they want to sell you hope.
For the past year, and now account for more than 50% of all known births.
Meanwhile, births from virtually every other race and ethnicity have declined sharply, which is a big change from recent years.
And that includes Hispanic births, Asian births, Black births, Pacific Islander births.
You know, the implication of this data is that foreigners aren't replacing the Native American population to nearly the extent that they were under the Biden administration.
Closing the border and deporting illegal aliens has had a direct effect.
It's reversed the demographic change that Democrats have been trying to engineer.
Imagine what these numbers would look like if conservative states decided to actually do something to encourage even more marriages.
That doesn't mean providing more welfare or handouts.
There's plenty of evidence that, you know, from the Nordic countries, which have a lower fertility rate than we do, that more welfare doesn't produce more children.
And more welfare definitely isn't guaranteed to provide more stable family units, as the civil rights era demonstrated in this country.
What's needed is a rethinking of divorce law and the contracts that young men are being asked to enter into.
And now, with all that said, how could I, after acknowledging these serious pitfalls, still promote marriage and family life?
Here it comes.
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What's the upside?
Went through all the downsides.
Pretty grim.
Here it comes.
How could it possibly be worth it, given all of that?
That's the question, and it's a fair one.
I saw a recent clip of Andrew Tate posing this exact conundrum as he has many times.
Here's just the latest example.
Watch.
How big of an idiot is a guy that doesn't get a prenup?
How big of an idiot is a guy who gets married?
Oh, my girl is over there, my boy.
Waiting on that.
Well, I'm sorry, but like.
Are you suggesting that marriage is out of the picture?
What do you gain?
Non-emotional.
Like there's men who get married and they go, it's important because I love her.
If you want to make emotional decisions, if you want to enter the world of emotional decisions with women, if you want to roll in the mud with a pig and lose, then that's fine.
But as a man, it's your job to be logical.
And I'm sitting here saying, I'm not anti-marriage.
Just show me what I get.
You're asking me to agree to give away half my stuff if I argue with anyone at any point in the future forever.
You agree.
I'm sitting here.
I'm going to pay a whole bunch of money so her uncle can eat a lobster dinner and I'm going to be publicly humiliated over the internet.
Yeah, it usually just shows a lack of choice for men that want to get married because if you had a ton of choice, you really wouldn't be incentivized to do it.
Like you want to like, why would you want to give a woman leverage?
If you had three hot chicks, you were banging.
When her ex-boyfriend, who her silly, laughs, I'm walking her down the aisle in her white dress.
Okay, cool.
So what do I get?
And the answer is, well, you get a wife.
Yeah, that's why that's like, why do you think Tate doesn't want to?
He's got three hot chicks.
I already have a wife.
I already have her.
You get a couple of years of happiness.
Yeah, but okay, do words matter or actions?
if you act like you're married what's the difference you need title A risk of divorce, risk of losing your money, and maybe some kids.
Yeah, well, I got kids anyway.
So it's, you know, it's a fair, it's a fair logical question, but the premise behind it is not fair.
You know, I've already acknowledged that those of us on the pro-marriage side can sometimes be too quick to discount the possibility that a young man gets married and winds up humiliated, betrayed, and broke because of it.
You know, we sometimes talk about marriage as though the divorce rate were 0%.
On the other side, though, people like Tate talk about marriage as though the divorce rate were 100%, as if no couple in history has ever managed to stay faithful and monogamous till death do they part.
He treats the potential downsides of marriage as guaranteed and the upsides as if they don't exist at all, but they do.
And in fact, on second thought, the question, what will I get out of it or what do I get out of it is not entirely fair.
Now, I can't say what you will get out of marriage.
Oh, my God.
Because I can't look into your future.
I can't control for every possible factor.
I can't force you to choose the right spouse, nor can I force you or your spouse to do all the things in a marriage that are necessary to keep.
And this is the ego.
He thinks he is so sure that his marriage is going to work out, but you're only in your 30s, maybe early 40s.
We don't know what the future is like for you.
But they think they know everything.
They have these huge egos, all of them, commentators.
That's stable.
We're the worst breeds of human.
Happy.
Most of the time when a marriage falls apart, it can be that there's one clear bad guy who did something destructive and betrayed the marriage.
That can happen.
Usually when a marriage falls apart, it's because you've got two people and neither of them were doing the things necessary to keep it together.
And so I can't control for that.
But I can say.
They always find a way to blame the man.
Even like in this, they're talking about how the cop, like he should have just known that she was going to fuck him.
It's like, how, how would he know that she was fucking her boss?
You know what I mean?
Like, you wouldn't really think that.
Are you fucking Brett Cooper?
No.
Right?
So he's not going to assume they're banging.
What you can get out of marriage and what a great many men, billions throughout history, including myself, 15 years in with six kids, have gotten out of marriage.
Again, ego.
Look at me.
Look at what I did.
It worked for me.
Your wife was old and you got him through IDF.
Can we just like be real here?
Two twins in her 30s.
Do you think I'm stupid?
It's LARPing.
LARPing.
So what you can get is the love, fidelity, and lifelong companionship of a woman who you love and who is devoted to you.
You can get that without marriage and to whom you are devoted in return.
What you can get, what billions of men have gotten.
And by the way, men aren't getting that.
That's not true.
Men are not getting devoted wives or children you love and who love you.
You can have kids outside of marriage.
The only thing you get in marriage is you get less leverage.
Carry on your legacy, your bloodline, and your family name.
Can have a family that is stable and whole, one that gives you a sure sense of purpose every single day of your life, a family you live with and share your life with and serve and lead and raise.
Okay, so you can get love, meaning, purpose, and legacy.
That's what you can get.
It's not an emotional argument because those are not emotions.
Those are real things.
Those are nothing less than the greatest things life has to offer.
So what can you get out of it?
I don't know.
The greatest things in life is what you can get.
You can get that without marriage.
Stupid argument.
There's nothing greater, nothing that can bring you more joy or make your life more worth living.
So what you get or can get in a word is basically everything.
But it should also be said that as men, our concern should not be only what we get.
What do I get is a fair question.
And if the answer were nothing, then you shouldn't do it.
But it's a fair question.
It should not be the only question.
You know, Tate says he has kids anyway, so he doesn't need marriage.
But, okay, well, what would his kids get out of him being married to their mother?
Nothing.
The kids wouldn't even know.
You can get a ring.
You don't have to get married with the state.
Well, they would get a stable household with a father who's present every day, leading, guiding, and teaching them.
You can get that without marriage.
Now, it's true that you can have kids without getting married.
Plenty of people have done that.
But all of the studies, all of the research, all of our experience as human beings show us that children are in a far better position with far better outcomes when their father is married to their mother and present in the home, providing not just financial support, but a daily example of how to live.
I mean, right, but you don't know what the data is going to say in 20 years.
We have no idea.
Like the data just came out that men that wait till their 30s to get married like have longer marriages.
So you can't really predict how the data is going to compare with people that just were in long-term relationships.
All of the evidence.
I would rather never get a ring with a guy that's not a simp than have to marry a simp.
That would be like, that's the way women view that is like hell on earth, but we don't know it.
It's subconscious.
I know it, but it's shows this.
That's what your kids get.
Well, what do they get out of you sleeping with other women and refusing to be a stable presence in the home?
What possible benefit?
Why does he act like that's the only other alternative?
There's so many men in the red pill that have been married for years.
Sometimes the wives bring in the other women.
You know, sometimes it makes their marriage better.
He said that husbands serve their wives.
He thinks of, he thinks being of service to her is some sort of advantage.
I know.
What does that bring to them?
What do they always guilt-tripping men about what they do with their dick?
Isn't that kind of gay?
Again.
If you want to live a meaningful life as a man, if you want to be a great man.
Marriage benefits women and children.
And it's your burden of performance as a woman to convince the guy to get married.
And if the guy has the mindset of he's looking for marriage, usually it's a lack of choice, just generally speaking.
Because if he was successful, women would be trying to lock him down for marriage.
Like if he was sexually successful, most men aren't.
Like that's kind of the default.
That's why more men want to get married than women is because most men are operating out of scarcity.
Like I would say like half of men aren't going to reproduce.
You need to be motivated by more than just a quest for what you get.
There has to also be a sense of obligation and duty.
Yeah, now it's guilt.
But again, they want you to sacrifice your life for their children.
Because if he gets divorced, he'll have money to fight it.
You won't.
That's what's driven every great man in history.
You know, Tate talks a lot about escaping the Matrix.
But the question, what do I get?
All by itself will not lead you out of the Matrix, but deeper into it.
I mean, in many ways, what do I get?
The single-minded quest for pleasure and personal gain is the matrix.
That's what the matrix is.
If you want out of it, you need to ask not just what you get, but also what are your duties?
What are your obligations?
Yeah, now, but what are women's duties and obligations?
They don't have any.
And until women have them, then the chessboard isn't fair.
Obligations.
What's your purpose?
What should you do?
Oh, my God.
Should is the dumbest question ever.
What should it be?
Well, this is what it is.
So.
Now, if we zoom out even further, who else stands to gain from you getting married and having children, having children with your wife, who you're married to?
Society, right?
Is that where he's going?
Well, I mean, everyone does.
Civilization itself.
Yeah.
So he's, again, he's saying low status men sacrifice for high status men.
Sacrifice your life for mine.
And when the low status men say, you know what?
Fuck you.
No, he nags you and tells you it's your duty.
You can't pretend to care about the future of Western civilization while making a choice and promoting a choice to not get married, not have children, that if everyone made it, would result in the extinction of the very thing you claim to want to preserve.
Everyone is going to make it.
Everybody is going to make that choice.
That's the future.
I'm the only one being honest about it.
And they chastise me.
They call me Blackpiller.
They call me a doomer, but it's like all of the trends predict this is where it's going.
Imagine if I was in the 80s and I went on all the shows saying traditionalism is coming back and now we're alive today.
You'd be like, fuck you, Pearl.
You know, I'm not saying that your primary motivation for getting married should be the preservation of Western civilization or the continuation of your bloodline.
Like no human being is going to be foremost personally motivated by that.
But these are benefits and they're really important ones.
Why should we get married and have kids?
Well, if we don't, civilization collapses, the human race goes extinct and nothing matters because nothing will exist anymore.
That seems like a relevant point.
It's not irrelevant.
And it's one that the anti-marriage side of the argument never addresses.
You know, if every man, so this is the thing, when you hear these, these, you know, commentators and influencers making this point, and they're pointing to things like this scandal we're talking about.
The red pill tells men to make decisions for themselves, not society, not these stupid commentators.
But if you look at the real red pill writings, it says make decisions for you because everyone else in society is going to tell you to make decisions for them.
They want you on the plantation.
This is why you don't get married.
Well, if every man followed your advice, human society would disintegrate.
And that strikes me as a pretty serious flaw in the plan.
I mean, it strikes me that a plan must be bad if full adoption of your plan would bring about the annihilation of the human race.
Then give men what they want.
No child support, no alimony, 50-50 custody.
If you're not giving men what they want, then you can't be mad that they're not doing what you want.
You have to give them something in return.
Otherwise, that's slavery.
So it seems like that can't be a good plan.
It's like we could talk about what a better plan is, but it can't be that.
It can't be the thing where if too many of us do it, everything collapses and everyone dies and there's no more humans left.
And yet, yes, there are still risks.
There are risks I've already acknowledged, risks that you can't protect yourself from with 100% certainty.
But you can account for these risks to a very well, what about the 10% of men that get royally fucked in this?
What about the 10% of men that get on lifelong alimony?
Are you going to pay it?
No.
So maybe you should shut the fuck up.
Oh my God, I hate these commentators.
It's just like, I have interviewed these men and I've seen death in their eyes.
I've seen it.
And for you to minimize it and tell them to do it anyway, go fuck yourself.
Significant extent.
We could put laws in place to account for them, like we just talked about.
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Just married.
And in lieu of those laws, and I know, but if the laws are not in place, here are the trends.
More women are getting into political power.
More women are becoming judges.
More women are making money.
The trends do not indicate women are giving up power anytime soon.
They're not.
And I am not here to sell hope.
I'm not.
I want to be accurate.
And all of us should be striving to be accurate.
So.
Also, in addition to calling for these kinds of policy changes, you can account for them personally.
You know, it is possible that a truly sociopathic, devious con artist could scam you into getting married to them while expertly disguising their true nature.
That could happen.
But in the vast majority of cases, there are extremely obvious red flags that someone is untrustworthy and disloyal.
Flags you can pick up long before marriage, if you're paying attention.
Things like if she's spending a lot of personal time with her male boss or any other man, for one thing.
As soon as you're dating this woman, she should no longer be maintaining any kind of intimate personal relationships with other men or spending any one-on-one time with other men at all.
And if she's doing that, that's a problem.
And if you express that it's a problem to her and she's not willing to give that up for you, leave.
Now he's going to say, you should have known.
Well, Brett Cooper saw you at work.
She says you guys were friends.
Were you banging her?
Should her husband dump her?
She's an influencer.
That's your red.
That's all you need.
You're gone.
If she seems to enjoy the attention of men who are not you.
Brett Cooper does.
It's not black and white.
Obviously, like, don't touch influencers with a 10-foot pole.
But you're not going to get a girl with 100% green flags.
Every girl is a calculated risk.
While you're in a relationship with her, that's a red flag.
Now he's going to blame the guy.
If she's an e-girl begging for attention online all the time, that's a red flag.
These are all things that are fairly obvious.
The problem for getting cheated on you and and you can identify them and suss them out if you keep your eyes open, in most cases okay, which is why a lot of, a lot of cases like this, when something happens and someone ends up, you know man, ends up married to a woman and she betrays him, you know, you'll find it since we're always, since we're talking about anecdotes like you'll find very often that the man is shocked and appalled, but a lot of people around him are like yeah,
i'm not that surprised by that.
It's terrible.
I i'm not that surprised because like, even you know, the people on the outside could tell, kind of what this woman's all about.
And if they could tell, then you also could have told really, and yet, and yet risks, you were up, you guys, I was the only one who said anything.
I was none of you.
So now you oh, you've got to be kidding me.
You covered this story you, matt.
You covered this story when she got engaged and you did not think it was a red flag.
So how dare you come back and say it was his fault?
Really, i'm the one who said it was a red flag and I got freaking, crucified for it.
Holy.
These influencers are just so full of.
Oh my god, i'm crashing out.
No, i'm swearing.
Today this is pissing me off, because I had articles written about me and that people were so mean to me for no reason and I got all the heat for it.
And now you're going to take credit later.
Holy shit, what a man.
Even in spite of that, I acknowledge that.
But but here's the thing.
There are also risks on the other side, risks to rejecting marriage and family life, and I don't just mean the risk of civilizational collapse.
You know, Andrew Tate says he doesn't need marriage because he can get any woman he wants and have a bunch of kids and financially provide for all of them.
And that may be true in his case.
I still believe he and his children would be better off if he were married.
But how many men would?
Who take that advice will end up with a life that even vaguely resembles that 0.1 percent less I mean?
The reality is that the vast majority of men who don't get married will not end up with a harem of attractive women.
They'll end up alone lonely, no wife, no children and and little in the in the way of financial success anyway okay.
So now he's saying, do it because you're not going to get a bunch of hotties.
No, there's going to be so many single women that they might got a not get a bunch of young women, but I mean they could probably get sex from some old, 50 year old broads.
I mean that can't be that hard, because most people are not financially successful.
Most people who reject marriage will die broke and alone anyway.
That's not true.
The reason that the reason that stat exists is because it includes um, people that are really irresponsible Responsible.
So, like, it includes alcoholics and stuff.
It's not merely a risk.
For many, it's the outcome they're actively choosing.
And they choose it because they fear that if they do get married, they might end up broke and alone.
And they might, but choosing a bad fate that is almost certain because you fear a bad fate that is merely possible is, you want to talk about logic illogical.
Now, does that mean that a young man or woman should rush blindly and recklessly into marriage?
No, there are risks involved.
Again, acknowledged, should change laws and put policies in place to reduce those risks and offer greater protections against them.
But anything worth doing involves risk.
And if starting a family isn't worth doing, then what is?
For almost every man, fatherhood and marriage are a vocation given by God to lead, provide for, and love his own family.
And you should let anything.
Now he's using Jesus to guilt you into marriage.
What pieces of shit.
These people, I cannot stand.
I used to think they were just ignorant, like they didn't know.
I would go into this stuff so good faith, but I'm like bitter now.
I think I've turned bitter because I know you know what's going on.
So what is wrong with you?
Thing or anyone scare you away from it.
Now you can avoid the Sarah Stocks of the world by abandoning the very idea of marriage.
And if you're a woman, you can avoid the Elijah Schaefers by doing the same.
But years from now, when you're on your deathbed, surrounded by no one with no one to mourn you and no one to carry on your legacy and bloodline or even place flowers on your grave, will you feel relieved that at least you were never divorced?
Will you be happy about the chance you didn't take?
Fuck yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of like, what is wrong with these people?
Matt, veterans are committing suicide because of these policies.
Some men don't make it to old age because of these policies.
What a fucking prick.
Oh my God, this is making me so mad.
God, it's making me so mad.
Because look, I'm not a perfect person.
I'm not.
I don't always cover these issues perfectly, but I go in trying to figure out what's true and what's untrue.
And the longer I am, the longer I'm in this industry, I used to think people just didn't know, but now I just think they're fucking liars.
And no, I'm not going to stop saying the F word today.
I'm dropping it.
I'm dropping it over and over again.
These liars.
Because you're afraid of.
Or will you wish that you had given yourself to someone and created a family that would outlive you?
Because what was any of it for if not for that?
Now let's get to our five headlines.
What a fucker.
Okay.
Oh, I'm getting angry.
Oh, I'm getting angry.
All right.
Let me read the supers.
Thank you for the documentary, super chat.
If you guys didn't know, I'm raising money for a divorce documentary.
I tried to make it a few years ago and the feminists really took me down.
They got me demonetized for two years.
It was a whole thing.
We are trying to raise 20K or not 20K, 50K, because we haven't mostly covered, but I miscalculated one person's salary.
So, over like six to eight months, that's kind of what it's going to cost.
So, you know, um, anyways, if you want to donate, there's a link in the description, or um, you can email me just pearlythings at gmail.com.
Look, I'm not, I don't even think I'm going to make money off of this film.
I just want to get it done because I just think someone needs to cover this because there's just too many people that are dishonest.
Like, that's why I got into this industry because I was so curious and I loved learning.
I love learning.
I love learning about the, I'm so passionate about it, but it gets really freaking frustrating when I know I have been watching you for years.
You are a liar.
You are a liar.
Um, what am I?
Sorry, I'm getting, I'm crashing out today.
Maybe I'm gonna get my period soon or something.
Um, what are you going on with the JLP crew again?
You're one of the few celebs who are JLP fans.
Shout out Jake Rattles.
Oh, I love Jesse.
Oh my God.
Um, he's great.
Um, next time I'm in LA, I usually go on when I'm out there.
If he has to talk that much about it, I actually wanted to do a weekly segment with him where I cover red pill stuff with him.
I, you guys should spam his chat next time he's live and tell him to do that because I think I think we bounce really well.
Um, like virtually, because I'm in Dallas.
Um, if he has to talk that much about it, it's obviously not worth doing.
Um, new member, thank you, Mr. Moss.
The memberships really do help because it's like reoccurring income on the channel.
You're quite the catch.
Another time in a place, shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Um, simp aside, don't get pilled on beautiful merit, don't get black pilled on marriage, too late.
I'm Livingstone, $20 super chat.
Will they pay me to get married like in Israel?
I don't know.
All right.
I'm going to let Doug MPA on, I think.
God, I was just getting so pissed.
I was getting so pissed.
I was, oh my gosh, I'm gonna bet, I'm gonna bitch some more.
I'm a Nick fan.
This is nothing against Nick, but he's God, he was pissing me off on Twitter.
I'm like, nobody's mad because she slept with her boss.
Nobody cares.
We're mad because you were frauding your audience.
Just enjoying the stream and chat.
No simp.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What up, Doug MPA?
I'm so glad you covered this.
This has been one of your best shows in a while.
Really?
Yes.
And your crash out is perfectly balanced.
So go ahead and crash out.
Go for it.
I needed to crack.
Well, I'm just getting so irritated because I work so incredibly hard to be as accurate as possible.
We do these essay videos on why the statistics are misleading.
You know what I mean?
Like, and they keep quoting these statistics to lie to their audience.
And then I get all the flack because I want to be accurate before I quote something.
Right.
And then they bitch at me.
And it's just like these people are such fucking liars.
And also, he knows what he's doing.
Like, he cannot plead ignorance.
I've been watching him for like two or three years.
Yeah.
And also, probably, you know what's at stake when it comes to this.
Like Matt Walsh, he's saying, just jump off the cliff, but you've seen what's at the bottom of jumping off that cliff.
You are an expert in this field.
You've seen what's happened.
So, for someone like Matt Walsh, with his level of reach, with his platform, to just be saying, marry these ghosts.
Why don't you say that to Terrence Pop?
Yep.
Tell that to a man who got his dog killed in marriage.
Yep.
And had his friend commit suicide.
Why don't you tell that to him?
Yeah.
Stupid prick.
And do you know what?
I'm the worst person to be saying this because, you know, but God, like, why are these people so out of touch?
And I think I'm out of touch.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think I live away, like, an out of touch life in many ways.
But like, don't these people claim to come from the middle class?
Do you not know like how difficult it is for the working average American to come out of like a marriage debt or like a big child support payment?
Yep.
I am the worst person to be saying that.
It should be someone else, but fuck you guys for being such liars.
And you know what?
I was talking to Nick the other day and I'm like, Nick, this is going to make people leave Catholicism.
And then, and then he's like, he's like, no, the smartest people, like, and I said, the smartest people are going to leave.
And he's like, no, they'll stay.
And I'm like, what do you, you're like under 30.
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You don't know how this pans out.
Like in 20 years, pretty much every guy that could, that I know that are the most moral people I've ever met, they're not in fucking church because of this bullshit because it's blackpilling.
You get tired of watching, it's just over and over again.
These whores come in, they ruin a guy's life, and then the person in charge defends them.
And it's like over and over and over.
And you just stop going.
And Pearl, remember, guys, if something happens in the marriage and it's the guy's fault, it's the guy's fault.
If something happens in the marriage and it's the woman's fault, it's the guy's fault, right?
We have a picture of Sarah Stock and her husband in front of the Pope while she's being a whore at the same time.
Right now, that's like the picture of 2026 right now.
You know, because what, dude?
2024 was when that female Secret Service agent was hiding behind Trump.
Remember that photo?
That picture is kind of like that.
That is going to, that picture to me is going to sum up all of 2026 that is in the running for right now.
Incredible.
Guys, as a man, life is going to be difficult.
Don't ever doubt that.
But how difficult do you want your life to be?
In response to feminism, you have the right to ask, what is in it for me?
What is the rest of my life going to look like?
And remember, feminism freed up women from being able to, from having to be barefoot and pregnant, but it's freed you up to be able to decide what you want your life to look like.
Men, we are creatures of action.
We are going to act, but what do you want your time and effort to be put into?
And where do you want your life to head towards?
You have the right to ask yourself that question, guys.
Does Matt know that divorced men who lost 50% are counted as single?
And because single, never married men only have to spend time, only have to spend on themselves mostly.
Yeah.
You know, it's incredible.
I was like, I just got a notification.
This is the type of gaslighting that just drives, that would just drive me nuts.
Hold on.
So I put the same thing.
Conservative women will always use the marriage family and children to build their branch and signal brand and signal status to the group.
She says, I'm not conservative, Pearl.
I'm a white racist nationalist.
Single mom.
I'm just like, I'm just like, the whole point is that you're using your kid to build your brand.
Pearlie, it's not even worth responding to Lily Gaddis because she got demonetized with no other plan because, you know, she's a woman.
So that problem will take care of itself in a couple of months.
I like her, but it's just like, I get so sick of female gaslighting.
Female gaslighting.
It just never ends.
And Ironberry, so every once in a while, I think this is when we first started working together officially.
You said, oh, yeah, you know, every so often you have to question, you know, the red pill, the MGTOW movement, is it being effective?
Where's it going?
And I just keep saying, modern women are going to keep being modern women.
You're always going to have a job.
Always.
It's only going to get worse.
There's going to be more Sarah stocks.
There's going to be more simping from TradCons.
It's only going to get worse and you're only going to have a bigger and bigger platform, Pearlie.
Yeah.
Well, I'm done for the day.
Or it's worn out.
All right.
Thanks for coming, Doug MP.
Yeah, great show today, Pearl.
Great show.
You guys, thanks for everyone for joining in the chat.
It's always good to see all the regulars.
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