Pearlie critiques modern Christianity’s obsession with virginity, arguing virgins at 25+ often lack femininity or use purity as a brand—like Cassie or Erica—while dismissing claims of emotional bonds post-loss. She mocks "trad" women (e.g., Lauren Southern) for exploiting family drama for fame and ties surrogacy ($100K–$200K) to men bypassing feminist custody laws, citing historical violence linked to gender access. Studies on fatherless households and her own Catholic/Mormon observations fuel skepticism toward purity culture’s authenticity, framing it as performative or transactional rather than moral. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Couple updates we're going to go over.
So I actually, you're really only going to see pre-recorded content and live streams the next few weeks because my team is off.
So no clips until after like the sixth.
They'll clip up these shows.
I'm going to be going live pretty much at this time, but you know, it could.
It's going to be the same thumbnail, unfortunately.
But apparently, you got to give people days off at Christmas.
I'm like, wow, the Audacity.
It's like, you know, they're like, oh, we can't work because Jesus was born.
I'm like, well, you know, it's like, oh, I guess.
I guess you guys can see your families.
Maybe the world doesn't revolve around me.
I did get bangs.
I think I really shook the public with these bangs.
I've gotten so many comments on them.
I'm going to go to our last show and read some of the comments because I am trying to get more involved.
So Josephine married an emperor and still cheated on him.
Okay.
Yeah.
So last show we talked about how women are designed to be passed around.
So I really don't like neurotic people here.
I'm a recovering neurotic.
I used to be a very neurotic person.
I still probably am, but I think I've kind of overcome that the last few years where you realize you're not going to die.
Like the worst can happen to you and you're not going to die.
And I used to get offended, you know, because the red pill would say, you know, red pill guys would say that women are whores and stuff.
And I realized I'm a whore, you're a whore.
We're all whores, bitches, because we are designed to be passed around.
And I really don't like the conservatives coping.
And I know conservatives are going to cope on this, right?
They're going to say, but my wife is special, really?
Your wife is special.
Your wife is different.
How convenient.
How convenient that the girl you found was different.
Did you know her since childhood?
Can you watch her 24-7?
No?
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
We are going.
There's going to be some updates.
I need you guys to bear with me with this app and website.
Right now, my costs are too high.
I'm using like five different apps.
And we have to decide if we're going to go in-house and build something of our own or keep using these services.
But I use UScreen if anyone knows what that is.
And it's just too expensive.
So I don't know.
I got to figure out something.
And now they're trying to like cuck me in this contract.
It's, I hate it when companies don't let you leave and they're trying to like cuck you.
It's like, um, don't make me start complaining.
I'm a woman.
But it's okay.
But right now we use a bunch of different sites and this is just too many.
I want to consolidate it.
So I am sorry.
There's going to be like the problem is we're out of storage on that app and it's just every three months.
They're like, oh, we need more storage, more storage.
And I'm like, I can't keep hiking up these prices.
I'm going to get pissed.
So I don't know.
I feel cucked.
I feel cucked in this contract.
You know what I mean?
I feel cucked.
And I'm like, it's like, it's like women after they give you the Punani for free, then they raise the price.
It's like, you feel kind of cucked.
It's a shame I don't have a computer programmer friend.
Well, I do have a father that's in that industry, but he's busy.
And I don't really like, you know, a lot of people say, why doesn't your dad pay for stuff or whatever?
I'm like, I don't need to be a burden to my father forever.
You know, I'm too old to be a burden on him.
I already am, you know, just as a woman, you're like default a burden to all the men in your life.
Like all this, this whole idea of women being helping men do anything, we're a burden always.
Our emotions are a burden.
Our mentalness is a burden.
Like we are just burdensome.
I am looking better and better.
Thank you.
Do you know what my weight went up today?
Yesterday, someone told me I was dehydrated from the drinking two days ago.
I did get pretty drunk.
I'm a little bit embarrassed.
That's why I had to tell you guys because I don't want anyone to come out later and say Pearl was talking a lot of shit at the bar.
Like I went up, I'll tell you this story.
I'm not really the most proud of this, but just in case a woman goes on TikTok, you know, that's the problem now is when you go out and drink as a famous person, if you do something embarrassing, and I'm not even that famous, right?
I'd like to, but like a known person, someone might go on TikTok and say, well, I saw her at the bar and she did this, this, and this.
And I, and so I'm like 10 deep this day.
I'm like 10.
I won't even lie.
I'm very deep drinking.
And this woman is against is behind the bar.
And I go up and I'm like, can I have a drink, bitch?
But I said it with a smile.
And I thought, I thought she could tell I was just messing.
And I'm like, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
She was pissed.
And I'm like, please don't spit in my drink.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just, I'm just messing.
I'm like, no.
Oh, my God.
She's going to go tell everyone I call employees bitches.
I'm like, I was just kidding.
I was really drunk.
sorry.
So I just, you know, so my weight went back up today and I'm kind of bummed.
It's better to not talk to anyone while being in there.
Do you know who I am?
I love talking.
I can't.
There's no point in me going out.
I like going to bars and I don't go to bars often just because of the health stuff.
But if I go to a bar, I mean, I'm here to talk to the people.
Okay.
I'm here to, I'm here to have some discourse.
I want to know your life story.
Let's get to chat and tell me about the horse.
Tell me about your let's get to let's talk shit.
Yeah, I did I mentioned that people aren't watching your old stuff.
That's true, but the problem is Uscreen has a high price tag on the app and the other stuff.
And Uscreen is a platform that's specifically for video hosting and live streaming.
So then you get to like, okay, do I want to pay like close to a grand a month?
And it's more with extra storage just for the video app.
And it's like, like, this is one of my highest expenses.
So, you know, people make up rumors.
Well, the hardest part is when rumors are half true.
Do you guys want to know the rumors you hear about me?
And I could tell you my side that they never will say.
But then you explain it and it's like, it just gets worse, you know.
I also like, because I'm a YouTuber, I have this skill where I can just like say random things to people.
Like one time, One of my sisters and I used to fake fight in the back of Ubers and just like we would do the sober.
And I'd be like, You slept with my boyfriend.
And she's like, I did it one time.
And I'm like, I will never forgive you, you know.
And I just like having fun, but then sometimes they get pissed.
People feel lied to when they find out the truth.
I can understand that.
Yeah, I did that.
An ex-boyfriend of mine did that.
Yeah, I mean, we would just pretend to fight, you know, and it's just, I just like, you know, sometimes I like to say things to see how people will react.
But I'll always tell you I'm kidding later.
Well, unless we're fighting in pot, I might not, but you know, that's why, like, I'm like, can I have a drink, bitch?
And I'm like, I'm kidding.
this woman she glared at me and i'm like oh no i'm back in my My bad.
I was like, I'm going to get my drink spitting and I kind of deserve it.
And I told this story to somebody recently and they were like, yeah, well, why would you do that?
And I'm like, because I thought it was funny.
I thought it was funny.
I thought, I thought, like, because I don't know.
I think.
Yeah.
So who's more convinced?
Obviously, me.
I'm a YouTuber.
Like YouTubers, we have this skill.
I know you're not 12.
I know, but I feel like I'm 12.
I mean, to be honest, I feel like I'm mentally a child.
I mean, people say that I seem immature.
And I'm like, I think I am immature.
I think I am kind of immature.
But I like having fun.
It was funny.
You see, this is, this is what they're going to say.
See, now I'll give you an example how my haters will take it out of context.
You know, I'll tell a story while I did that.
And then they're going to say, well, Pearl, everything you say is to see how people react.
And it's like, oh, God damn, God damn it.
Oh, my God.
It's like, I can't, you know, but it's like I talk for three hours straight.
It's like, I can't.
What am I going to put my fist in my mouth?
Well, I can.
You know, you know, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just messing.
Do you know what?
I did the bangs to ascend because I have a big forehead.
And I was like, maybe that was why I did the bangs.
I also got my hair dyed redder, but it's kind of fading fast because I wash my hair a lot.
So did you guys like the original color if you go to two weeks ago?
I'm kind of bummed.
My weight went back up.
I knew that the alcohol would catch up to me.
164 now.
I was 161.8 yesterday.
It's like, damn.
Okay, I'm going to go back to reacting to the comments from last show.
So.
So, here on this channel, we're realists.
We are not.
I'm not pushing a religion.
I mean, I'm not good enough to push a religion.
So, I can't do it anyway.
I am not a good enough person.
I mean, I'm an emotional bitch at times.
I mean, look, I just got to be honest with you guys.
I had someone say to me recently that I'm too hard on myself.
But, you know, being in this position, I just like to remind people I suck.
I really like to remind people I suck a lot.
Oh, that could be taken out of context.
God damn it.
Because you get put on a pedestal a lot.
Like, I remember I went on a date once and I was younger.
And this guy was ready to marry me on the first date.
And I kind of feel bad because he was a very good guy, like, very nice person.
But I want to work for it a little bit.
I'm like, I want to, I'm still a woman.
Like, I think people think because I understand like the nature, like how evil we are, they think I'm like better.
They're like, Pearl, you're different.
I'm like, I'm not different.
I've been passed too.
You know what I mean?
You know, I mean, I mean, it just is what it is.
Yeah, he was ready to marry anyone, I think.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But, you know, they see me on the show.
So I just like to remind you.
All right, what else?
Congrats on your weight loss.
One of the things I learned about weight loss is the longer you keep it off, the more your skin tightens, making you look even thinner, even though the weight doesn't change.
Consider that if you're getting discouraged with the raw number, I am discouraged today, so I did need that.
I am a bit discouraged.
I am kind of discouraged.
They say I keep looking younger and younger.
My hands don't, though.
Yeah, I know.
You, right?
The face, you might look a little younger in the face, but the hands don't lie, ladies.
The hands do not lie.
A woman is far better looking when 10 pounds overweight than 10 pounds under.
Same for 20.
Well, look at Gray.
If I get underweight, I'll gain it back.
Okay.
It's not going to be difficult.
It's not going to be a difficult thing.
I now understand why superheroes wear masks.
Yeah, I do.
Because sometimes, guys, I'll go out and I'm like, I just don't want to worry about it.
I mean, honestly, at one point, I felt like I was a slave to my audience.
And I know you're probably hearing this and thinking, Pearl, you're such a brat, a bitch, brat, awful person.
Because I have to go to my real job and pour concrete or do customer service.
And you felt, you have the audacity to complain or even mention that you felt like being a slave to your audience.
I hear you, but I'm going to do it anyway.
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, because I think it's important.
There might be women thinking this is a good idea.
And in a lot of cases, it is.
I helped, I helped.
I'm actually very proud.
I started Christine Gray Smith, and I actually think she's really good at what she does.
It's too unfortunate I had to stop with the YouTube network, but I just didn't.
It was too many projects.
I didn't have time.
But out of the kindness of my heart, I gave her my chance.
And I think she's going to do well.
And I think she's going to be able to make a career out of it.
I really do.
But I do think you should understand what you're signing up for.
Now, I'd say for two years, I don't want to say I never went out because there's probably going to be some video of me somewhere out.
But I had this feeling of like, you know, when you're hated by women, there's women everywhere ready to kick you down.
If you go on a date and you talk to somebody, you date somebody, you have sex, it's always in the back of your mind thinking, oh my God, what if this person runs to the internet?
What if this person screen records personal conversations with me?
And you think about that.
I think about that every time I open up to a woman.
I have to calculate how crazy is she.
When I tell her something about my personal life, I have to think this woman could make money.
And women, the problem is if you open up to them once, they'll remember it for years.
I had my best friend do this, right?
Opened up to her, used it against me, talked shit, made put personal photos we took together on the internet.
And one of the ugliest photos of all time of me.
It was like an after-basketball practice.
And I had so many YouTubers use that picture of me to like make fun of me.
And it was so ugly.
This was somebody that I considered like a sister.
All because I said women shouldn't get fat when they get married.
It's like, bitch, 20 years.
And women, they say men are judgmental, but women are really the judgmental gender.
We judge far more than men judge.
I mean, how many times has a woman, you know, how many times, yeah, she says I was fat before I got married.
Well, then, do you know what?
That's what he bought.
He must have got you pretty cheap then.
You must have not been expensive.
You can't be expensive as a fat woman, which is fine.
That's a good exchange of services.
As you get older, you get, you know, oversharing.
I don't think I've ever, other than MTR, I'll say his name now, and Sarah, other than some black men, I'll say.
I've never been betrayed by a woman or sorry, by a man.
If you want to tell your secrets to someone, tell it to a white guy.
They don't care about gossip.
They'll forget and they'll take it to the grave.
They have honor.
Black men will call you racist, except Doug MPA.
Somehow I'm still an equal opportunity employer.
I don't know how.
women will use it against you.
All right, I'll keep going on the comments.
I found one upright man among a thousand, not one upright woman among them all.
I think you're fine, insightful, good looking, honest, and a hardworking woman.
I think you're a simp.
You got to stop.
You don't know me.
We got to, we got to, I want to be a person.
But going back to the fame thing, for a while, I just had this big fear.
I had fear because I felt like if I messed up or I did something wrong or, you know, I just felt like I was on this pedestal that I just could not live up to because I'm human too, right?
And I was really afraid of messing up.
And what I realized was being afraid of messing up held me back more than making the mistake.
And that's the mindset of a lot of virgin women nowadays.
And I'll keep going.
I'll keep going in the comments before I get into the monologue.
Nobody's perfect.
It happened to me as well with my buddy lost a 30-year friendship over some BS.
No gossiping about each other, but it still hurts.
Don't do that publicly.
You give ammo to your enemies.
The internet isn't ready for the plain Pearl look.
All right.
Pearl in a JJJ questure sweater.
Pearl watching anime confirmed.
That was a gift, actually.
Pearl's ascending.
Oh.
Being reflective suits me.
Okay.
A true friend overlooks your flaws within reason.
Yeah.
And I think that's what millennial, I understand.
I'm trying to get thinner.
You don't need to call me.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, this is what I've come so far.
I'm so proud of myself.
I've lost.
I was 210 at my heaviest.
So 200, 190, 180, 170.
I'm almost down to 50 pounds.
And you got to say, I'm still not thin.
It's like, bitch, I know.
I know.
I know.
Sorry.
How do people watch with these long pauses?
Well, I could be better.
I understand.
Alcohol is a temporary dehydrator.
Bodybuilders would have some alcohol before a show, then they would show up leaner.
It's temporary.
I found that out.
My weight shot back up today.
I was kind of sad.
In my 35 years of sexual experience, I've never had a virgin.
Pearl, if anyone tries to retaliate against you and sue you, let me know and I'll bankrupt them.
Oh, I have a name.
If that's a real offer, I have a bitch.
Okay, I'll tell you about this bitch.
I hate women.
This woman, and I'll be vague, but you might be able to.
Long story short, she stole millions of dollars from her ex-husband, threw him in jail.
And on top of that, she got a bunch of child support and then told the kids he was this evil guy, really nice guy, comes on my show.
And now she's taking me to court for doxing, even though this woman wrote a book about her ex-husband.
And now I've spent probably 15 grand on this court case.
This is not bad, but it's still going.
The next date is at the end of January.
Break dancing, dad?
I'll just say that.
That was the person I interviewed.
So yeah, if that's a real, if that's a real offer, I haven't.
I have a name.
Now, a lot of people have asked how they can support the channel.
The best way right now, there's two ways.
I don't know what I'm doing with the app.
So you can sign up there, but there might be changes with that soon.
However, you can go to the GoFundMe, the links in the description.
There's now a Bitcoin thing that should be there.
And then also, if you want to email me personally, just pearlythings at gmail.com, you have a specific amount you want to donate, I can send you a Stripe link.
A lot of times I just call people that donate.
I mean, a lot of people, I'll just call them.
Like, I'll just, and as soon as I get this contact system going, I.
I want to be able to call you guys and like update your information.
So if I get your birthday or something, then every year we can send you a thank you card or something.
So the problem is I want to do the calls, but I don't want to, I don't want to have to not be able to log the info and then.
Yeah, so it's a long story.
So let me keep going on the comments before we get into the topic.
I'm only five minutes in and you took no accountability for your part in anything.
Well, I am a woman, Anna.
It's just these women come here sometimes to nag me.
And I just think, well, you could go.
Idealistic, 20s realistic, ends 20 to 30 statistician.
Okay, wait.
Okay.
Pearl, I have given up on women and society as a whole.
And I think that's good.
I think the best place is to be in a place where you give up.
I love, like, you don't understand.
The people that go crazy are the people that are trying to change society.
There is a sense of peace I got.
I think when I first started, I thought, well, we can go back to traditionalism.
And I felt like I was kind of fighting for something.
Men's rights, traditionalism.
And I'll do what I can, right?
I think it'd be cool someday to have a nonprofit, but I think we all got to be honest that we're all going to be dead by the time there's any change.
You know, I'll take constructive criticism from a man, but Anna, someone says she doesn't care what the women think.
I don't.
I'll take feedback from a man, but a woman, I just can't.
Now they're talking about how it's attainable to have a virgin.
Okay.
It's going to get worse before it gets better.
Women were given too much authority after WWE, World War II, due to elites at Vars and the Juice didn't help any.
Okay.
Can we not talk about the Jays?
They win.
They win.
Can't do anything about it.
Sorry.
They win.
Everyone's worried about me looking too thin.
I'll gain it back.
Okay.
All right.
I think I'm done.
I think I'm done just going back and forth with the comments.
Now, look, there is a segment of the American public that believes there are people.
Someone said, what are the J's?
Okay.
I'll put it like this.
There is a segment of the American public that believes that a certain small group of people are in power and running our government.
My opinion is that I don't know.
It's not my problem.
I can't do anything about it.
So I do try to talk about what I've seen and what I do know.
And when it comes to foreign affairs and foreign policy, if I was to have an opinion on that, I would just be repeating what people have told me.
And really what I want to talk about is things that I have firsthand experience in, not, you know, not things that I can't do anything about, nor do I really know.
And I get a lot of pushback on this.
They think, well, Pearl, just educate yourself.
Why?
Why would you want a woman's opinion on war?
All right.
So today we're talking about virgin women in modern Christianity.
Now, I had a post that I kind of sparked this conversation on X.
And I didn't mean for this post.
I think people misinterpreted it.
So let me share this tab instead.
Girl, it's kind of the typical girl in a sundress, right?
So your typical trad e-girl, a lot of men, and I quote tweeted this, and I said a lot of men experience virgin women.
The issue is they leave after.
And this kind of came from my experience seeing how women lost their virginities when they were young.
Now, I want to categorize women into three categories.
A young mid that's a six or higher is going to be beautiful as long as she's thin.
She's going to be in the beautiful category because she's 18 to 25.
That's a young, beautiful woman.
Even if she's a five for her age group, she's going to be a seven in the dating market.
If she's thin, if she's fat, back to the mids.
Now, a lot of people came back at me and they said, Pearl, you're right.
The men do leave.
The men, the men, the men, the men do leave.
And I thought, no, that is not true.
The women leave.
Healthy women like masculine men, and masculine men tend to like banging a lot of chicks.
Healthy women like players.
Now, a lot of people want to talk about this being a defect, saying there's something wrong with women for liking players.
That is the game.
That is how women have always been.
Women like sharing men on a biological level.
We might not like the act of being cheated on, but we like the behaviors that come with a man that has multiple women.
This is normal.
And I thought about it and I thought about there's a lot of romanticizing of virgin women.
There's a lot of men that romanticize having a virgin woman, a woman that's a virgin.
And I thought to myself, but all women start off that way.
Even the biggest whores start off as a virgin.
So if virginity was this bonding thing for women, then why don't women stay with the men they lost their virginities to?
Now, I think the concept is a lot of women, we shoot out of our leagues, you know, we're fours, fives, and sixes going for eights.
And we just go with these men that don't want us, pumps and dumps.
And I would actually say that women that are between four to low sixes, this is generally what they do.
When I saw women that are in the mid category lose their virginities, I would say the majority of them did go out of their league.
But, you know, I thought about the women I knew personally that lost their virginities.
One mid lost it to a frat guy that she never spoke to again.
I remember looking at her and thinking, you're not attached.
She's like, no, it was fun.
And I'm like, oh, wow, that's your virgin trad wife.
Another girl I knew was in love in a situationship for a year.
And she was in love and she tried to make it work.
And, you know, she took the L. Another woman I knew.
So in that case, you could say maybe she would have stayed with him.
But remember, all the women I'm describing are mids.
And when I think of the women that are sevens and above, most of them lost their virginities to their high school boyfriend.
I think of one girl, she was the most beautiful girl in my class.
And she had a boyfriend in high school.
And then she lost her virginity to him, didn't really care, and then lost.
Then she started banging a more Chad guy on the football team.
The reality is women either lose their virginities to their beta boyfriends and they tend to leave them and go to college.
So a lot of people thought I was painting the women as the victims in this tweet.
And I thought, no, I'm actually painting the men as the victims because I think more men that take the virginity of women have the women leave than the men leave.
Now, there are some chads that run through.
However, I'm just being honest.
I saw more women have a high school boyfriend and leave him.
Or even have a high school, a college Chad and leave him too and just go on to the next Chad.
Now, the reason being is the women that are sevens and above really don't have a scarcity mindset, right?
They're not really going to mind if it doesn't work out because they have so much choice.
Now, I don't know if I'm crazy.
Maybe I am.
But then you get to virgins at an older age.
And I thought about it.
Can you guys hear my dog snoring?
Should I wake her up?
I thought about the women that are virgins at an older age.
And I have met women.
I've been in pretty, I've been in pretty religious churches.
So I've met women that are 22, 25, 28 that are virgins that I believe.
All right.
Ellie.
Hold on.
I woke her up.
She's like, what happened?
Okay.
That are, they are virgins.
And I do, I really do believe them.
But I got to be honest, there's something wrong with them, generally speaking.
They're usually our virgins because they don't want to give up control.
I would say the most submissive relationship is where a woman gives up all of her cards as soon as possible to the man.
Because as soon as the sex is given up, now the ball's in his court.
It's not really traditional to wait till marriage because the ball's in her court.
You're saying don't give, you're teaching women to weaponize sex to get what they want.
That's what holding out does is the terms are mine.
Where if a woman sleeps with a man early, she has to do other things outside of sex.
She has to be nice, not be a bitch, be kind, pleasant.
And what I realized is the hottest women really generally all whore out, but there's a taker.
There's usually a guy that says, I'll take this whore.
And the women that aren't, because again, it's like the Stacies in the Chad.
Women, healthy women will always go for Chad's.
Healthy women that like masculinity are always, we are, and we got to stop pretending like this is something defective with women.
This is how women are.
Healthy women will always go.
They are and have always been hypergamous and they'll always go for Chads.
But what Chad does is Chad plays a very important role.
He's helped you meet your future wife because he humbled her in order to meet you.
Diane wouldn't have given Joe a chance, but Brad ghosted her.
And now she says, Well, maybe I'll lower my standards because who else on the planet is going to tell her to do that?
The whole planet is telling her why, telling her that she deserves more.
Chad is the first one that says she deserves less.
Chad's playing an important role in stabilizing society.
Now, I've met women that are virgins at a different age, at an older age.
And again, this is really what I found.
I have been so unimpressed with the women that came on my show and said they were virgins.
I was hoping they'd be better than the rest.
Usually it's lack of femininity.
They're just not feminine.
If they are feminine, they love being worshipped because they're a virgin.
They'll build their brand off of it.
Too ugly.
Think they deserve Chad.
Chad's not interested.
He says, your virginity is way too, you are not good looking enough for me to wait till marriage.
Now, a lot of, I think a lot of the mistake men make is they make the mistake of thinking women are good people and a woman that waits is virtuous in some way.
Paul never met a good woman ever.
Women are always doing what's in their self-interest.
Women are always benefiting ourselves.
Women don't wait till marriage because if women do, women are holding off on sex because of morals.
It's because they want to get something out of it.
And the most submissive relation, I mean, honestly, Cassie and Diddy, in a way, is a more submissive relationship than most trad wives.
Because, you know, Diddy said jump.
She said how high.
Now, you know, I grew up Catholic, so I had 20 years of Catholic school about.
And I really saw, you know, I met a lot of the women that claim to be pure.
I think that's why I hate these TradCon women because I just kind of see around it.
A lot of the women that are virgins, they've sucked.
I mean, I knew one woman that actually did wait till she was married and she got finger blasted before.
Is it really the same?
You know, if you're getting like finger blasted, and it's not to be insulting.
I mean, that's more self, you know, resistance than I, you know, than I obviously showed, but I got to be honest, she's really controlling.
It was more about not wanting to have to take an L than I think it was than it was wanting to do what he like wanting to please him.
Yeah, the poop hole loophole loophole.
And I think I just had this virgin like myth.
Because here's what happens: the Chads are going to, the Chads are experts at selecting women.
They're at least much better than the, I don't know, Gavins or what do we want to call the nerdy guys?
They're much better than the nerds.
The Chads are, they can see through bullshit way better than nerds.
And again, if Stacy or Diane had Chad interested and she thought she could lock him down, she'd throw it back.
Women don't have morals, but usually there's something wrong with Diane and Stacy.
The nerd, Doug MPA says the nerd's Travis.
So if there was no takers in high school, no takers in college, there's always a guy that can talk the woman's pants off.
But you know, they're just going to think this is too difficult.
Um, and I think that's how a lot of men take L's: they reward difficult women.
The church men, I mean, they're like the kings of taking L's.
Because the only obedience you really have from women now is the obedience of being attracted to you because women make their own money.
We don't need men, not like we used to.
We do on a societal level, but like individually, unfortunately, there's men dying to give women resources 24/7.
Now, I'm going to go through the comments of this post.
I'm going to bring it back up.
I don't know if that's fair.
Are girls staying with every girl staying with every virgin male they sleep with?
Do girls not take it from boys so they can say they did?
And I said I was referring to the women leaving.
Everyone thought I was referring.
I think that's why this went so viral.
Everyone thought I was referring to the men leaving the women.
They thought, you know, I was saying that the men, and I'm like, no, more women leave the men they lost their virginities to, I think, I would based on my life experience than men leaving them.
Virginity is not as bonding as we thought, because if it was, women would stay with the men they lost their virginities to.
Now, I remember that I felt very bonded.
I had a hard time, you know, shot out of my league.
That's how it went for me.
But I got to be honest, guys, there was stuff wrong with me.
A lot.
And that's, you know, women that don't have things wrong with them that are the most feminine, they really have an abundance mindset because it's like, well, if you're a Stacey, do you really care if you get ghosted once by Chad?
It's like, whatever.
There's Brad, Gavin, there's other hot guys.
We don't count nerds being interested in us, unfortunately.
We don't care.
We only want the hot men that are interested.
And that's how healthy women behave.
It's actually unhealthy for women to pick nerdy men because usually that means there's nerdy hot men, but you know what I mean, like the simps.
That's an unhealthy woman because she's either overly controlling and she knows she'll hold all the cards in that relationship, or she's been damaged by Chad.
And a lot of you can only afford damaged women.
So you should thank Chad.
You should go out and say, thank you, Chad, for humbling my wife because I wouldn't have met her without you.
Girls go for playboys and toxic guys.
They lose their virginity to them and start hating men.
Why can't they go for the nice guys that want to settle down with them?
I got to go with what I've seen.
I would say out of the attractive women, these are good-looking women.
If the women are even slightly overweight, they don't qualify for Chad.
They're out.
If the women were not raised to be wives, out.
If the women are not feminine, out.
But the women that actually are healthy and not defective, I would say most of them got boyfriends pretty easily.
The cool girls to be around.
And they would leave them and find another cool guy to be around.
Now I think this is a girl projecting.
Good part is that she learned her lesson in what daddy issues led her to.
No young, healthy-minded girl wants an older man to touch her.
It's always either daddy issues or using them for benefits.
I would say that's not true.
Like, I'll give you an example.
I didn't go for older guys when I was younger.
And the reason was my mother kind of spewed all this.
It didn't even make sense because my dad had a decent age gap with my mom.
But my mom told me all the older guys are just going to use you when really those are probably the most marriage-minded guys.
Like, why would you tell me that?
But that's not a healthy, you know, that's already being taught to assume the worst about men.
Men who think and that I can tell a guy's experience with women if he's taken a few virginities and knows that they're not really all they're cracked up to be.
Sometimes they are, right?
But it's not really going to be this bonding thing.
Men who think a virgin is ideal for a relationship are incredibly naive.
I know why you think this as she's uncorrupted by bad men, or you'll think she'll be more receptive to your reasoning.
And in either case, more cooperative in the relationship.
The thing is, and I know a virgin, and I feel sorry for any poor sad who hitches up with her because she's a feminist.
Her perception of how relationships should have work has already been corrupted.
She is not going to be receptive to any man's reasoning.
Being humbled is good.
That's why I say, you know, I've seen the older women in these churches that are socially awkward and have zero men experience.
There's over a certain age, you have to go get experience.
It's time to throw it back.
And it's not necessarily that you want to rack up a huge body count, but you got to get into a relationship somehow.
And if men aren't paying for the wait till marriage prices or men you're attracted to, you got to figure out a way to get them in the door.
Now, to each woman's strategy, you got to pick your own.
But high prices on a product that's not that good, it just doesn't work.
And if you haven't had offers from intelligent, attractive men by a certain age, I got bad news.
Go older, go to older men, see if that works.
Still no offers.
This is why I don't care about body count.
I just care about her character and politics.
Body count can help assess her character, but it's not the critical factor that you should be concerned about.
Usually the people concerned, because again, the women doing the whoring and whoring, look at there's different levels to whoring.
So I'm not saying that every woman is like throwing it back with everybody.
But there's the people in the game and there's the people criticizing.
And most of the time, the people criticizing aren't in the game.
They're not going on dates.
They're not like, you know, they're just not in it.
I actually cracked a virgin and I found her annoying.
I really did that.
That was back when I was in an evil surge because they gave it up at the wrong time.
The guy didn't have to work hard enough.
All my friends who were hard who were virgins into marriage or well into the engagement are still with their husbands, every single one.
And look, you guys might have a different life experience, but in my experience, the women waiting till marriage usually are looking for feminine men.
It's why like all of the conservative women have simp, like they have gay husband allegations.
It's like a thing.
And when I was reading Red Pill Writings and they started explaining this to me, for me, it was like a missing piece.
I was like, oh, that makes perfect sense.
Now, I'm not saying that you got to be completely dug out, right?
But.
But feminine women, the chat will dig you out and he'll stay.
Relation doesn't on the basis of an emotional connection, not from put pissy.
Just virgin doesn't build relation.
It's important because a person with more than one sexual partner can never build an emotional connection or stay with one person.
And look, I've seen virgin women that got married as virgins, then they leave their husbands to go whore.
women are designed to be passed around.
Erica says, I'm 30 and still a virgin.
I've never had a boyfriend.
And yeah, I agree.
I'm actually afraid that someday I give it to the wrong man.
I don't want to experience that kind of heartbreak.
I'm just an ordinary woman who wants to have an ordinary marriage.
Now, number one, I don't believe you.
But number two, like if that's true, she's probably low sex drive or very controlling because you've had a sex drive since you were 15.
That means you're more controlling than you are submissive.
And most of us are, right?
I mean, let's be real.
Hillary Crowder was a virgin when Steven Crowder married her.
Just because she's a virgin doesn't mean she isn't a modern woman.
Now, calling out these e-girls, right?
And I knew Erica Kirk wasn't what she said she was when I first kind of saw her.
And what happens in these churches is men want women to be happy so bad, they just give everything to women and offer and make them do nothing for it.
Now, last show we talked about how women, how Erica Kirk lied about her dating history.
She said, I'm a trad wife, I barely dated.
And I'm like, you were like 30.
I'm not stupid.
Charlie was, no offense.
I'm with women, anyways, but I'm not dumb.
And now it's coming out that she dated all these people.
She's on reality TV shows.
And it's like, well, I'm not shocked.
I'm not overly surprised.
I could I personally could have seen that one coming happens in these churches is groups benefit women because we cannot we obviously aren't going to beat you in a verbal jujitsu math one on one.
Like, have you ever argued with women?
Do women really win arguments?
Like, we might exhaust the other person because we can argue forever.
But women, we don't really win arguments.
We don't win them.
We just exhaust the other person.
So, what women do is we get the group to nag the alpha into doing what we want, or maybe a beta male.
I mean, they're easier to nag.
And so, what women do when there's a group is we have more social power.
Women use their families to nag and they use the churches to nag.
And what happens is the more women enter churches and political movements or whatever, the less we care about accuracy and the more we care about relatability.
So, we care about what's popular.
And Erica Kirk is now bringing in, and we don't have a lot of discernment with people.
Men are not trusting.
Women trust about anything.
I mean, a salesman will come to us and say, This bag that is made in China and is really ugly is worth thousands of dollars and it'll make you look popular.
And we're like, Really?
And now you're seeing Erica Kirk do this in church with Turning Point.
And the way men retaliate is they just walk away.
So, Turning Point is now elevating Female speakers with no religious or conservative credentials who essentially change their mind like yesterday.
Like five minutes ago, they changed their mind.
They say, I'm conservative.
They're very obviously using it for clout.
Look, she's in a Nikki Minaj is in a rapper who raps about popping that who now is saying she's conservative and she's going to on the shows.
Everybody enables feminism because think about how many qualified men are being looked over, like men that really know the Bible, that haven't put out rap songs for people that are popular.
And what happens is, as women become the primary audience, they care more about mysticism.
They care more about entertainment.
They care more about fun.
They don't care about facts.
And you can see how accurate an audience or a movement is by how many men are in it.
And Christianity's dead.
And Erica Kirk is helping kill it.
So these women, they let them into the churches and they do more harm than good.
So, those of you who know, Charlie was very good about having a surprise for every Amfest.
And we are so blessed to have you.
We are so grateful.
I mean, thank you.
I'm honored to be here.
I am honored to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Love you guys.
So we're just going to dive right into this.
You had some fun words for Governor Newsome.
I just, I have to read these tweets because they are amazing and they are so funny.
Okay.
First one, we'll do this one.
Unless you want to read it in your own voice.
I think it'd be really great.
Okay.
Oh, Gabby Pooh.
It only gets worse from here for you, buddy.
It's the end of the road for you, my love.
Get on the nearest jet ski and let that beautiful hair blow in the wind.
It'll make you happier than this race that you will not win.
Now, there's someone I know behind the scenes that's worked high in conservative media with no following.
And I thought to myself, you would be more qualified than Nikki Minaj.
You have no following, but you're just a smart, intelligent white guy.
You would be more qualified to talk at this event.
You're saying that Nikki needs a haircut.
That's fake hair, guys.
Enjoy life.
Erica's hair is fake too.
Like, women's hair doesn't look like that.
Okay, okay.
One more.
One more.
Why not?
Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids.
Ha ha.
Not even a trans adult would run on that.
Normal adults wake up and think they want to see healthy, safe, happy kids.
Not Gav.
The Gav Nuts.
Gav, not in.
Gab out.
Send in the next guy.
So I'm just going to let you riff.
Like, I want you to say whatever you want to say, Mr. Newsome.
Dear new scum, we don't have a problem cleaning up the scum if we have to.
Please tread lightly.
That's what I would say to Gavi Pooh.
Like any guy is going to see this and just see a retarded woman.
But you're going to keep seeing women in positions they don't belong.
They're going to mess things up and they're going to blame men.
So with regard to the current administration, what has been maybe the biggest surprise for you or something that you just really has been put on your heart that you've learned about our president and our vice president?
Well, I have the utmost respect and admiration for our.
I want real love, but I'm not sure that exists.
Love, we're not talking about you.
If you want advice from me, book a session.
I can tell you what I know, but why would you even want advice from a woman?
Go to theaudacitynetwork.com.
I could get on a call with you this week.
I don't really want women here.
You're not welcome.
This is for white men and the Doug MPAs of black men.
That's it.
i don't know how a black woman got in here yeah it's like our president president.
He has, I don't know if he even knows this, but he's given so many people hope that there's a chance to beat the bad guys and to win and to do it with your head held high and your integrity intact.
He's from Queens, New York, like me.
So, but what it's shown me personally is sometimes, you know, even in the worst feeling times in your life, you think that you're never going to come back from it.
But you do.
And our president shows that.
He's been through every single thing a person could be through publicly.
Having to constantly be lied on.
It's not really that funny.
Until you are in that person's shoes that's being lied on, you'll never understand what it feels like.
That person is a human being.
They have a family who has to read those lies.
And that's not, and it's just not fair.
But this administration is full of people with heart and soul.
And they make me proud of them.
Our vice president, he makes me, well, I love both of them.
They're both powerful men, smart, strong, all of that.
But both of them have a very uncanny ability to be someone that you relate to.
I can relate to them.
When I hear them speak, I know that they're one of us.
Like, we got an ex, you know, a trad e-girl passed around on the East Coast in ASU through conservative men, which is cool.
I mean, all women are past.
I'm past.
You're past.
We're all past.
And then we got the girl, the past girl dating rappers who twerks.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like.
I know that they're not.
Don't you guys agree?
They haven't lost touch of the world.
You know, they're still connected to the world and what's happening in the world with the younger people and older people, with the richer people and not so rich people.
They have the ability to still connect and be real and make us feel proud to be American.
So why now have you been involved with speaking about politics?
What was kind of the turning point?
What was the turning point?
I just got tired of being pushed around.
I'm like losing brain cells.
Word is on Vine that Nikki is at the center of Twitter drama and a drama between her and the other mentally stable black women musician.
Does anyone in the audience not know how crazy this is?
And this is congratulations, conservatives.
You've given women the Republican Party.
You've given women the Republican Party.
They win.
Sometimes you just get tired of it and then you realize, wait a minute, I have something inside of me that's stronger than what's out there.
That's right.
So when you've had enough, you realize, wait a minute, why do I even care about these people and what they think?
Who are they?
They don't even know who they are.
So I'm not going to, I'm not going to back down anymore.
Someone said they're having a soft spot for Nikki because she's a good rapper.
She's a good rapper.
But you're giving a female rapper with zero conservative values a top spot at Turning Point USA at a speaking event.
There's not any guy that's more qualified.
None?
Zero?
More.
I'm not going to back down ever again.
Can the students in the room raise your hand?
Wow.
This question is for you guys.
So you guys are very courageous and bold on your campus.
Nikki, I know our students feel this way, but why do you think speaking your mind has become so controversial?
Because people no longer are using their minds, their brains.
So right now, just imagine we're not allowed.
I don't know if we want to go through.
I don't want.
I can't listen to this whole thing.
But what you're going to see is that everybody, Christians and conservatism, Christianity, I mean, it's dead.
It's done.
I could never be super involved in a church again because of what I've seen.
They will sell out the men and just give to the women because they want to be heroes, right?
So it's like what happens is women get into these churches and they everyone's complicit in feminism because again, feminism is elevating women to positions that they do not belong and not giving them the responsibility that comes with it.
All right.
I'm going to.
Oh, Doug MPA says he's got to step out.
All right.
So I want to know if you guys have seen, how did I know the girl was finger blasted?
She told me.
Yeah, I don't like it.
If I had a church, it would just be banning women.
Doug MP, could you pin this in the chat if you don't mind?
You guys can call in.
And I want your thoughts on virgin women.
If you've ever dated church women, but in my experience, they're worse.
They're uptight, bitchy, higher-strung.
Azubi, of course, you think females belong up there.
That's why I'm banning you from my show.
All the women are banned.
You're not allowed here.
I don't want you here.
Go.
Please go.
women should not be preaching to men.
All right.
I am going to play my divorce documentary and get a snack because I'm getting kind of hungry.
So I'm going to play this trailer.
I'm going to make it full screen.
And then people can call in.
If you guys do want to donate, if you want to donate, there's a GoFundMe.
There's a GoFundMe in the description.
And then, so go call in.
I'm going to wait five minutes and then I'm just going to grab a snack.
I'm a little hungry.
This clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question: Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly: no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the TradCon versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now, many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
No!
No!
Did I not put it full screen?
Oh my God.
Oh my God, that's so embarrassing.
I clicked the wrong one.
Oh my God.
Hold on.
So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
I mean, this headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the TradCon versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands.
And then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failures is it lives to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your ex, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Right.
Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 200K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm overage.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
You're going to population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
Well, that was my documentary trailer.
If anyone wants to donate me $200,000, we can finish it.
I know that sounds like a lot, but you'd be surprised.
My PayPal is HannahPearlDavis at gmail.com.
You know, if you got like 200, just zelle, you know what I mean?
Sigh.
Okay, but enough of that.
We're talking about virgin women in modern Christianity.
I know, pay her.
It's like anybody, anybody.
If you got something on it, feel free to call in.
The link is pinned in the chat.
I know Doug MPA's got stuff on it.
I think I'm going to take probably three callers total.
My ask is that you guys please do not ramble.
Please have a beginning, middle, and end to your story.
I like these shows to be around an hour and a half.
I think it's like a perfect amount.
I don't want to waste your whole day.
I want to have a fun time.
I don't want to do hours and hours of streaming.
But if you've had a different experience, please don't come on here and tell me that what I have seen is wrong because I have, I mean, that's my eyes.
You're not going to gaslight me today.
But what I would like is, you know, if you have a personal story where you agree or you disagree and say, that has not been my experience.
Come up.
Beginning, middle, end.
If I have more questions, you'll know.
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Yeah.
So a lot of the time, Pearl and I, we get these shows from the conversations that we have.
And this was a really good one.
I can tell you guys.
So when I was in college, I waited tables at a really nice restaurant.
Right.
And, you know, I was in my mid-20s.
And a bunch of us, you know, a bunch of us were talking about virginity and so whatever.
And this really pretty blonde girl.
She's like, yeah, you know, I bought some virginity to this guy, you know, at my church.
And he was a good-looking guy, but he was kind of awkward and this and that, whatever.
And she's like, yeah.
So, you know, his parents were out of town and he like put like roses on the bed and tried to make it into this like event to make me feel comfortable and all this stuff.
And then, and then we ended up like having sex for the first time.
You know, because he wasn't a person, but she was.
And then afterwards, he like got her flowers and like a fruit basket and a card.
And in the card, it said, you know, thank you forgive me your virginity.
I'll cherish this forever, all that stuff.
She's like, what a fucking loser.
And I'm thinking, like, you know, shouldn't women appreciate the fact that someone like did all this is saying thank you.
We want to be plug out.
Yeah, he's like, you made it romantic.
Men are the romantics.
Women just want to be, it's like, we want to be hit, you know what?
We want to be hit, hair pulled, whatever.
It's like, yeah.
He's like, you made this romantic.
Fuck you.
Yeah, honestly.
And then, and then like all the women were like, damn, what a fucking loser.
Like, I can't believe.
And I'm like, my mind was blown.
I was like, don't women want like romance and don't women want to be special and stuff?
One of my best friends lost her virginity at a frat party.
And I'm like, oh, did you want to see him again?
Like, did you, or aren't you like, don't you feel attached?
He's like, no, that was fun.
Yeah.
And this girl, talking about, she said that, you know, it was, you know, it was all right, whatever.
And she would have did it again with them if he hadn't bought the flowers, if he hadn't bought the card.
Yeah.
I mean, and even.
Sorry, God.
Go now.
Keep going.
No, she said that.
And then all the girls, all the female servers were like, yeah, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't have saw him again after that either.
I'm like, what?
You know what?
Like, because my experience that it was I was attached, but I was kind of fat.
So it's like, duh.
All the hot girls, they did not care.
But one of my best looking like relatives, she just dumped him and, you know, she left next boyfriend.
Next boy.
I mean, that's when the women's like good looking, they don't care.
There's too many chads interested.
Yeah.
And guys, so I think it starts with their virginity, but it's also in like the dating phase.
Once you get the first time out of the way, women, they don't even care, dude.
They're just do it whenever.
If they're attracted to you, they may play hard to get or a little bit on the first date, but the first time, I mean.
But after that, dude, if they're attracted to you, they'll do it anywhere, anyplace.
It doesn't matter, dude.
A lot of them will do the most down, the most depraved, nasty stuff to you, if they're attracted to you.
Well, I thought about when I did that tweet, because everyone thought, I think it seemed like I was saying the men leave.
And I thought about it.
I just kept thinking, I'm like, most women start as virgins.
So, like, men are like, there are no virgins.
I'm like, all women start that way.
So, if it was this bonding thing, why aren't we with those guys?
Like, yeah, like when there's freedom, why aren't we, why aren't we with them?
Like, every they're like, where are the virgin women?
I'm like, young enough.
I mean, they're there.
Yeah, but they're banging someone.
Think about this, Pearlie.
The average woman loses her virginity young.
What, like, what age?
Maybe like 16, 17, 18?
And the average age of marriage is 31 now, 30, 31.
Come on.
I'm trying to think.
So I had a little delayed because it was Catholic.
I know people, but in my experience, the Catholics were a few years behind the public school, but they, oh, we made up for it.
But I would say it was around 16 was normal.
I know some people say like 14.
There was only one sexually active girl I knew of when I was 14.
And that was the black girl in our class.
I hate to say it.
I hate to say it.
I got to be honest.
It was like the one black girl was the only one throwing it back at 14.
That sounds like a black girl, a beat up headline.
She was cute, though.
She ended up like dating the prom camp.
Like, she was really cute.
Like, probably one of the best looking black girls I've ever seen to this day.
Okay, let's do fog.
Welcome to the show.
What is your thought on the topic?
If you have a story to contribute, hey, Pearl, can you hear me?
I can hear you.
Awesome.
I've been here before, and actually, we talked about this topic before.
And I shared my experience before with you.
And you didn't believe me, which is fine.
But I think you said something.
If you married a virgin, call in, right?
I don't remember, but I'll eat it.
What did I not believe you on?
Go ahead.
On that statement.
Because I shared with you a little bit of my story.
And oh, oh, your virgin wife was from like another country, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, we're both.
Oh, you guys were long distance and stuff, right?
Sorry, I still don't believe that.
Yeah, I remember him.
So you said that you didn't believe me, but there's proof that in our honeymoon, something happened, which we all know when a woman loses her virginity, something happens, right?
Not all, not always.
That is true, not always, but sometimes it does happen.
And in that case, it happened.
Yeah, but like if she clucked to 9,000, you wouldn't know.
Catholic scroll girls did that all the time.
Backdoor, mouth.
Yeah, I grew up in like a neighborhood surrounded by Mormons, and all the Mormon girls were taking it in the back door.
I swear.
I'm not saying that your wife did.
I'm not going to disrespect them.
So, so please don't say that she did that.
Yeah, I wouldn't be able to say that, you know, I wouldn't be able to say whatever she did on her own whenever we were not together.
I can't say that because I wasn't there.
But, I mean, and knowing my wife and knowing her family and the way they are, I believe when she says that she was not involved with anyone, not just sexually, but in other ways, I believe her.
Sexually, I do believe because there's proof in our honeymoon that she was a virgin.
But other than that, you know, I wasn't with her 24-7 or even in the same country with her to actually know if she was messing with other guys and doing stuff with other guys.
You just have to understand where I'm coming from.
It's like every time a guy says he found, like, and I kind of make a joke about it.
Pretty much every time a guy tells me he found someone that's special or different, she's from another country.
We both are.
We both are.
I'm from Portugal and she's also from Portugal.
We just moved to the States.
But, you know, I share my story just to give hope to some people.
And I know that is, you know, it's probably a hope that is completely empty.
It's an empty hope because of how society is going today, because of how women are conducting themselves today.
But at the same time, you know, I'm sure there's some men, some women out there that are virgins and they're.
Sorry, I'm not here to sell hope.
I'm sorry.
I just, I just, I, I gotta, I can't do it.
I just, you know, big up to him because I remember his call.
You know, you know, if you're married and your things are working for you, good job, man.
You know, I'm not trying to hate on it here, but, you know, I just why even look, I just, I just need to, I just need to look, and I'm not trying to be rude, but I got to.
I got to run a show.
There's just a certain caliber, and I just need people that are like real, you know.
And it's just when you spend like 10 minutes defending your wife's virginity, it just makes me think you're not.
You know what I mean?
It just makes me think you're not like with it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So nothing against you.
I hope, I hope she is.
Was.
Yeah, but I'm not stupid.
So, you know, I just can't.
This guy's making funny faces.
Welcome to the show.
Oh, nice to meet you.
I know.
So, do you have a story to contribute?
My story, my story.
I can see.
Married one year, no.
And you're like, oh, dog, up, dog.
And hey, you don't have a strong man instead of that man.
And let's put on a strong conversation.
Where are you at?
I hear an accent.
Trinidad.
Trinidad.
You've been married a year.
And she was she was a virgin or no when I met her first, she was a virgin.
Okay, how old was she back then?
She was 19.
Okay, and then you guys grew up together, so we've been together since then, and then we had a separation, like after five years, and then we've been together for seven years before we married.
Okay, all right.
Well, so what's your story?
My story is basically, you know, it's a very complicated topic to say because everybody has the ups and downs.
But I think, like, for research, we men have very been put down, like dominicota, like real dog.
We don't get the opportunity to express ourselves as a man anymore.
Women just bash us every time we express directions because we mindset as a man is for family.
You know, we work hard for our family, we put things towards our family, we put our goals towards our family.
And when we hear a woman talking, it's like, I want this, I want that.
I, I, I, I ended up like, well, so you say you have some of the same problems, even with a virgin wife, allegedly, yeah, okay, all right, thanks for calling in, Anthony.
I appreciate it.
We have, oh, we have Undead Chronic in the back.
I think I like his stuff.
I've seen it before.
I think we talked.
What's up?
Oh, ho, ho, Merry Christmas, Pearl.
The man, the man.
Yeah, the legend, Undead Chronic.
Let's go.
Yeah, welcome to the show.
Hey, Pearl, isn't your mom British?
Is she English?
No.
Oh, I thought you lived in England.
I did live in England, but it was to play volleyball.
I was going to say the bangs are very British, very British.
Yeah, I know.
I'm Irish and like Welsh, I think, and German.
So no.
Yeah, I've pumped on to some of your Twitter lives, and it's always kind of funny listening to other content creators that kind of cover similar things because at some point you feel the exhaustion.
At least it was an SCD stream.
And you're like, who wants to call in to tell me about the gonorrhea you got?
And dozens of guys calling in, like a guy calling in from the hospital.
It's just like, my penis is in a jar right now.
Yeah, STD Fridays were a rough couple months.
Yeah, well, it's the last caller.
I caught like five seconds, maybe in the last five seconds.
And it's so interesting how people treat virginity online and how they act about it.
I always find the one group that's always super pro female virginity unironic people know this are female virgins.
They typically don't run away from it.
They're kind of because anything someone can use to say like I'm better than you, and that's anybody, men, women, anybody, they'll grab onto it.
Wow.
Or someone argues that like, oh, female virginity isn't important, but I'm totally a virgin.
And that was not so erudite.
She had a debate with me where she was preaching how she was a virgin left and right at marriage.
And I got her nudes the next week.
I'm like, I'll just, well, look, look, look, is it possible that she was a virgin at marriage and then she decided to, you know, get down with destiny, whatever the hell she was doing?
Sure.
But how many virgins at marriage would you know end up with their nudes leaking?
I just, I kind of have to call BS.
I knew one girl that did it, but she was allegedly according to what she said, right?
Which is, but even I knew she did stuff outside of sex.
You know, so it's like, I guess it still counts, but it's not really the same when you got finger blasted by a few people.
You know what I mean?
It's just not really the same ring.
Yeah.
Well, it's why does someone want a virgin wife, right?
It's like, why is virginity like what purpose are you seeking virginity for?
Is it for a stable marriage?
Is it a religious reason?
There's a lot of young men just kind of looking for a culture.
They're looking for masculine advice.
They're single mom, family, or their dads are weak or their dads are at work all day.
And so a lot of guys will jump on like the no hymen, no diamond, but like they're like, oh, I don't want to get married.
I don't want kids, but no hymen, no diamond.
It's like, well, that's like, why do you care about that advice?
Or I'm never going to get married no matter what.
I got a vasectomy.
I'm never going to have kids.
I'm totally going to brag about getting a virgin girl.
Like, well, what's the point?
You go for a hymen for a stable marriage in the hope that the woman would help you raise your kids that she gives you.
That's always the argument I made about no hymen, no diamond.
But it's, there's also this general win that we've won over the culture since I've been putting out content since 2017, like Sandman, all these other people.
You got young 15, 16-year-old guys, boys, like the kids, they make fun of hoes.
They're telling their teachers they're ran through because they had two boyfriends.
The red pills won the culture.
Like young men, young boys, they don't have to go online to know that, you know, dating a single mother makes you a loser.
It's in error now.
It's everywhere around them.
It's beautiful.
They got to teach, they got to teach in the UK that Andrew Tate's a bad person now.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
They're teaching anti-massage classes.
Well, and the other thing is you're never really going to know because women just always find workarounds.
And, you know, like, what's what's the in terms of things to stress about of whether or not your your supposed virgin bride was really a virgin or not?
Um, well, your concern is divorce.
Once you're once you have kids of the woman in the West, if she's living in the West, you're basically married.
You're at the will of the state.
So this whole idea that, you know, I'm just not going to, you know, I'm going to have kids, but not get married.
If she's, if she lives in the West, she has access to you.
So you can buy a surrogate.
I'm very, very pro-surrogate.
All these trad cons, I don't say trad cons, there's been like a movement from the normie YouTube sphere, like the tin pool types to want to talk about this kind of content because this is what young men want to listen to.
Are young men pissed off about tariffs and illegal immigration?
Sure, but a 14, 15 year old guy, he's going to be more pissed off that his homecoming date said no.
She said, no, I don't want to date you.
That's more concerning to him than politics.
So naturally, all these political types want to talk about this kind of content.
And I kind of feel like the old man with a shotgun on the yard.
It's like, get off my, get off my front yard.
Like, you should not be talking about any of this kind of stuff.
Like, why is Tinpool giving dating advice?
Why is Ben Shapiro giving dating advice?
Why is Steven Crowder?
Like, Stephen Crowder's giving dating advice.
He was ripping us.
Then he got divorced.
Now he's back like I did.
He had the virgin wife, right?
Allegedly.
Yeah.
So, you know, the system is really toxic.
It's the ability for women to just call up your local pigs to, you know, put the casual two warning shots in the back of the head.
That's, that's the big problem.
But it's good we got people fighting about no hymen, no diamond.
It's, it's always good to put some pressure on the on the feminist, um, on the feminist side, I'll say.
Um, I'm actually pro-surrogate, too.
I said women don't, women always mess up the kids.
So I actually think that the kid's better off without the mom.
Um, the benefits, I'm gonna, I'm gonna list some benefits because to speak about raising kids with a parent, with two parents.
Like, I like to go into a lot of the biology, at least when it comes to how your genes get affected.
So, um, basically, when you're raised in an environment without the father around, there's permanent changes to the way your genes get expressed.
And the way they measured that is they measured young women, uh, the age of their first, their first period, menarch, right?
Menarchy, menarchy.
And they found that when there's no father in the house, on average, they have their first period about a year earlier.
What does that mean?
How does that make sense biologically?
If there's no men in the tribe, the women in the tribe are like, crap, we need men.
There's no one to protect us from physical aggression.
That's why these young girls, like their fathers, they become sexually mature a year faster.
They end up becoming more likely to become single mothers.
They're more promiscuous.
It's all delineated in the statistics.
So that's a genetic change because their daughters have similar outcomes.
So the opposite can be true for surrogacy.
You know, the idea that, oh, we're going to have better genes.
This is a eugenic push.
And I agree.
But that being said, it's important to be honest.
There has to be some kind of, there has to be multiple benefits to a mother and the household.
I can speculate.
I'm not a psychologist.
Not so.
Erudite did a master's in, was it sociology, some kind of sociology, very soft science.
It was like stats or something, some really soft thing.
But, you know, I'm not going to write away and say there's no biological advantage to having a mother around.
Surely it has to at least.
I just got to go with what I've seen.
And like pretty much every close friend I have, it's like the mother did more harm than good.
Like, I just don't know.
And I'm just being honest.
I don't know many good moms.
I don't.
Yeah.
And, you know, it could be true.
It could be true that everybody in this call doesn't really see a lot of positive influence of mothers.
But that being said, that can be a product of this culture.
I think a loving, consistent mother at least, you know, imparts like a sense of self-worth a little bit.
I'm speaking as someone who was raised without a mother, right?
I'm single father household.
It's it's all the way.
I mean, it's a bunch of engineers and physicians as siblings.
So we did pretty good for ourselves in that manner.
But, you know, I'm still going to defer to there's a benefit to a motherly figure, but having the motherly figure being able to call in the cops, that's not biological.
It's a biological signal.
Do you guys know that if a woman is obese when she has a child, most of the proclivities that can contribute towards childhood obesity genetically is from the mother being obese when she's pregnant?
So in my experience, obesity and diabetes in general, like they call it metabolic syndrome.
Oh, I'm fat.
I'm not active.
My lungs suck.
My heart sucks.
My vasculature sucks.
I'm having strokes.
Ironically enough, yeah, if a woman's really fat, you'll have more of that in the kids.
Also, if they're starved, because it's just the Western diet, we have unlimited calories here.
So if your body is ready for starvation, right?
And you come to the West, you're going to hold on to all your calories.
You're going to be fat as hell.
It's the same with black people and their kidneys.
Black people's kidneys are like, yo, what's that?
Sodium?
I love me some sodium.
Sodium is hardest, it's hard as fuck to get in Africa.
If you go to Africa and you find a salt lick, you'll see a shit ton of animals fighting over it.
You know, you'll have elephants walking, like walk hours in the middle of the night into the fucking jungle to get salt.
Same with the people.
That's why salt tastes so good to black people.
Their kidneys are like, we need salt.
Well, when you go to the U.S. and we put like, hey, we're putting salt in the air, like, you know, you look at an advertisement, you get a gram of sodium.
It's horrible for black people's kidneys.
Now, funny enough, you know, they don't, they stopped teaching that black people's kidneys are different at Harvard a couple of years ago because it's racist.
I'd recommend if you're a black person and you need your hypertension, high blood pressure treated, don't go to a doc that went to Harvard.
They're going to treat you like a white person, which is wrong.
How did you get into this?
And what?
Like making content.
Did you have like a Canon event that kind of blowing off steam?
I was doing, I was working in a, God, what were we doing?
We were doing human cell culturing.
So another funny feminist controversy was ever heard of Henrietta Lacks.
Does that make him sound familiar to you guys?
Sounds really funny, but I can't.
She's a black lady back in the 80s, I believe.
She had cervical cancer and she went to get treated at Johnson's and they took her cancer cells and they were the first immortalized human cancer cells.
So we can like grow cell lines.
Like, hey, let's grow a bunch of human cells.
So you use a lot of her cells.
So I was doing similar work, not with Henry, not with Gila cells at that point, but that's another way that every single anywhere in society has been infected and corroded by feminism.
You just simply can't avoid it.
And so listening to a ton of TFM, some Sandman, some Terrence Pop, some Carl, Sargon of Akad, on my long ass commute to this lab when I was doing all this freaking human tissue stuff, which sounds cool.
It's really not.
It's like, it looks like potion mixing and hogwarts, except it's perpetually like body temperature, which sounds nice, but it's like 96, 98.
You're sweating.
And just looking at all these feminists, seeing these young, I guess they were undergrad students at that time.
These like little young Muslim girls like argue about like one of them was upset that someone said Muhammad was a warlord and like he wasn't violent.
I'm just I'm surrounded you're surrounded as a young man by all this feminism and tomfoolery.
I felt like I needed a way to vent out.
So I just made the channel and I started, what did I start with?
I started with making making fun of bar culture, the decline of bar culture, because I was in college at the time and bars like, why would I go to a bar when I could at that time, you know, use Tinder somewhat effectively and go to Chipotle?
So what are your predictions for the future?
Like, what do you think is going to happen in the next five to ten years?
Oh, like in what?
Because you said that you said that Red Pill won in a way, like they're making fun of like, yeah, yeah.
So like, I just wonder, what do you think are going to be the effects of that?
So obviously the birth rate's going to continue to collapse because you can have the most masculine, willing, red-pilled, base, whatever guys.
It's not going to change women's choice to or to not have kids.
I'm sure I could list down three articles, Pearl, that you've probably covered about, you know, women want financially attractive partners.
Women want, you know, they want a liberal guy that looks like a Republican, that it's men's fault that the birth rate's falling.
That's just that's going to continue.
That's not really like a hard prediction for five or 10 years.
I think we'll get down to, I think in 10 years, the U.S. might be like at least the native populations, it might be close to South Korea's rates.
South Korea is kind of like the, I see South Korea as the canary in the coal mine, right?
Like, cause their gender war stuff, Pearl, if you want to do a show, I'm telling you, if you have the money and you want, if you're getting bored of the typical slop content, you take a flight to South Korea and do like a street interview thing, they're Asians.
They're not going to attack you.
You will get some crazy ass people coming.
And it's the country's all like hyper incels and turbo thoughts.
Like half of all the sex is happening is straight up prostitution.
All the guys are like, they'll go weeks without even talking to women in their own families.
It's nuts.
Like it's really, you should check it out.
It'd be, it's, it's like the $800 flight, maybe.
I think it'd be interesting.
Like, what, five grand, maybe?
But yeah, in terms, in terms of other predictions, it's there'll be more controversies.
More people are going to come into this space, act like a bunch of fools.
Let me moderate my language.
Fools.
I mean, look at the, have you seen any of these new Groyper types coming up on X?
They're getting like big out of nowhere.
Yeah, I think I've seen a few.
Like, which ones?
Yeah.
One's called Woman Propaganda.
That guy.
Oh, yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah.
So I spent two days ago, I spent the whole stream roasting his take.
He was with Lily Gaddis, Gladys.
I've been told she's a single mother.
She kind of looks like one.
I can't.
So we got this.
This is now this.
Listen, guys, this is the new age pro-white.
What's your name, man?
I don't know your name.
What's the guy?
What's this guy?
Oh, Doug MPA is in here.
Yeah.
MPA?
Is that your name?
Yeah, Doug MPA.
Doug MPA.
What's up?
Doug, I'm assuming since your profile picture is not white, you're not a white man, right?
I am American black.
Yes.
I'm a white guy.
Let me tell you about the crap a white guys got to deal with.
So as a white guy, if I want to, you know, suddenly be an aggressive white supremacist, right?
Okay.
I don't know.
We're out there.
Let me see.
What options do I have?
So I look at this show with these up-and-coming white supremacists.
Lily Gaddis, this white chick who became famous for dropping the M-bomb.
That's it.
Her whole career, white woman.
She said the M-bomb.
Bam.
She got a career.
Single mom.
And then this like five foot five, like Groyper type.
He calls himself woman propaganda.
And he makes the argument that white men are just going to have to marry these white hoes.
That's that's my that's the white supremacists I have to choose to listen to is telling me to save these hoes, dude.
Even the white supremacists are simps.
They're all fucking simps, man.
So, you know, I roast this guy for telling white dudes to marry white hoes because on the basis of meeting a man, that's offensive.
There's some weird money there.
Like he, he, he came back after he took his stream down.
He was saying he's going to give his life to God.
It's a very strange stream.
Then he comes back to TP USA with five security guards and starts slapping people just like and then hiding behind this.
It's it's the age of the grifter.
Even the white, even the dudes who their career is, I'm, I'm can't like, you know, if your career is, I'm going to say the N-word, you're not going to get hired by corporate America.
You're not going to be an engineer.
You're not going to go get a PhD.
You're not going to practice medicine.
You're not going to do a lot of things.
So it's a big step to decide to make your career being racist.
So, you know, props to that.
But then even the people who want to be racist, they're simps.
It's like, bro, the simps need that simps need to stop.
That's just what I'm trying to say.
Sorry for rambling there, Pearl.
That's okay.
Sean put something in the back chat.
Sean's been on the show before, so I thought you guys would bounce well, actually.
What did you have to add, Sean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you guys hear me?
I can hear you.
Yeah, what's up, Sean?
Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, the only like truly virgin women who will act right, they're never from this country.
I can tell you that.
Nine times out of 10.
Those are the only ones that I've met who, and usually they're not even from a Christian background many times, but it's more culturally based in terms of how they act.
It's not the fact that they've never had sex or anything like that that's going to cause them to act right.
That's from what I have seen, or they're from like the 1930s or something like that, pre-internet or things like that.
So, I mean, that's just what I've kind of seen.
But, you know, as it relates to, you know, which, you know, the comment just made, right?
You know, they're just chasing clout.
They're just trying to make a brand for themselves.
Like a lot of content creators, they don't really truly believe what they preach.
It's just a matter of what's the cause that I want to serve and can I make money off of it.
And, you know, the simps that follow these sorts of people, you know, they'll eat it up.
So that's kind of what you see actually play out.
Yeah, it's just, it's just a, it's a job opportunity for people, especially the economy being so bad.
The idea that grifting to make $20 an hour, that might be worth it for a lot of people.
Funny to talk about the kind of girls who end up being virgins.
Pearl, the last girl I had sex with that told me she was a virgin at least was one of these, I guess I'll say brainwashed, like one of these like far left, they them, 18 year old chick.
You know, she like had a girlfriend when she was 15 once.
So I'm like, oh, yeah, there's the chance of her.
But like, that was the last chick that I could authentically think there was a chance.
Maybe that blonde done up really nice in a church.
And, you know, it's kind of, you know, yeah.
Well, I just, I went to Catholic school.
So I kind of saw how many like workarounds women have.
And I maybe it's like a little better because I guess maybe they're not as likely to catch us TDs from like oral and stuff.
But I'm like, it's just not really the same if you've blown a few guys to say you're a virgin.
Yeah, they're just not really like.
No, it's authentic.
Yeah.
And the thing is, I like was around women that like waited until marriage and that's what they sold to their husbands.
And like, so that's why when the guy, you know, calls in and he's like, oh, I did distance with my wife and she totally was a virgin.
I'm like, yeah, okay.
Yeah, I don't know why anybody would call into a show, any of these shows like this, like to proactively defend your wife.
Like if you're, if your wife is good and you don't have a problem, honestly, you shouldn't even be touching this content at all.
Like if women were acting right in young relationships, guys wouldn't be looking up red pill anything.
Look at Akash.
Look at freaking Akash.
All this is coming back to Biden.
Oh, yeah.
My wife and I were virgin.
Okay there, bud.
And then she rinsed you out.
It's talking about freaking popping her pussy and all this shit.
Who believes that she was a virgin?
Come on.
Degan Crowder did the same thing.
Like he had a virgin.
Like for me, it's an age thing.
Like if she's over 21, I think 21 is even generous.
But like these guys that believe it in their mid to late 20s are idiots.
Yeah.
You deserve like, come on.
I mean, what it comes really down to, right?
When you see the women who pitch virginity, why are they doing it?
Because they know men like it, right?
Anyone who's been on dating apps, if you're in Texas, every girl pretty much says she's like Catholic or Christian, right?
Because they know that's what the men want to hear if they want to get wifed up.
But you go out to California where the guys don't care, they're not listing any sort of religion out there.
Or you go to New York and many of these people are transplants.
So the reality is I think a lot of women just play to what men want to hear and they think they get power from it.
So if you find an attractive girl at church, maybe blonde hair in really good shape and she's pitching virginity, it's because she knows her market value.
Yeah.
And also when I interviewed a thousand people, I just noticed there wasn't really a difference between the conservative women.
And if anything, I kind of thought they were worse.
I thought the liberal girls were at least fun.
Like the conservative women, I just found them to be stuck up bitches.
And to be honest, that was kind of my experience growing up because I did have a lot of like more left-leaning friends, I would say, than right.
I always like to think like virginity, like the way conservative trads can't think of it.
It's like kind of like buying a you know car that's like CPO certified pre-owned or whatever you want to call it.
You know, you believe it works because you think they checked it out and everything should be good.
So you use that as like a litmus test.
And the reality is that's not true.
That's not actually how you should like take it as a litmus test.
You should honestly test the people, but most people want to rely on old school thinking.
And so that's what tends to get them screwed over.
It's wild, Pearl.
You kicked me out for talking out about hope because I just didn't want to hear you talk anymore.
So yeah, we don't hope over here, buddy.
Yeah, we can just never talk again.
It's fine.
Go somewhere else, please.
Like, it's just, I just can't, I'm not going to sit here and listen to you defend your wife's virginity with you did a distance relationship.
I need someone higher IQ.
Like, I just, yeah.
And like, was he calling in because he had a problem with?
No, he's called in before.
Like, he told me, he came on my show a few months ago and basically said that his wife was a virgin, right?
And so then I asked, like, okay, what age did you like?
Kind of the qualifying questions, like, okay, how old was she when you met her?
Did you see her growing up?
Did you guys ever spend time apart?
And it comes out that they did like a distance relationship while getting to know her.
I guess the big question is, why is he even calling in?
Like, he has a virgin wife he likes.
Like, oh, you won life and your wife's great.
Like, obviously, if your life's great, your wife is fine, you don't need calling in, dude.
Unless it's like he's trying to do this for content production.
If your whole shtick is that you married a virgin, that makes you as rare as like what a piece of sand on the beach.
If we go back a couple hundred years, like that's not really and that's and that's what it is.
I just don't really trust people that are using their families to build their brands because what's like the incentive to be honest?
It's an interesting point there.
I like it when you get in fights, cat fights with all these random right-wing, um, like Trump girls, Twitter girls, because I'm on the side and I'm saying, Hey, if any of these chicks were as trad as they were talking about, they wouldn't be online showing their face, getting in public fights.
Yeah, I wouldn't want my wife to have like public enemies, political enemies.
Why?
Is she gonna solve my political problems?
She's gonna go take care of some things.
No, she's not the best.
If you're trad, you wouldn't even have a social media following at all.
Yeah, like it, especially for a woman.
This is my stick with Lauren Southern.
Um, if she was so trad, like, she wouldn't, like, she wouldn't be famous.
Does that make sense?
Like, you wouldn't be like globe trotting, you wouldn't be banging Andrew Tate, you wouldn't be crying about Tommy Robinson doing lines of Coke in the plane.
Like, you know, you wouldn't have any of these issues.
So, when she made that article that trad, you know, trad life failed her, it's like in trad life, we don't let white women fly across the world to bang brown men.
We actually put white women down as white men.
The most trad thing is white, like, seriously, the most trad interpretation of this, these white deserted women is white men abusing all the people in the world except white women and telling them to shut up and stay inside.
So, it's like, you know, how can you say you live trading?
Let me reiterate: trad white men would forcibly would arrest her and force her to be a nun and would press the bastard child into some military service.
That's what traditional white men would do to her.
So, that's the trad route.
This whole like, oh, I'm trad, it's 1950s.
No, no, no, no.
What men want, what young men want when we say trad, it's not the 1950s, it's the 1350s.
It's a little bit different, 50s.
I just think it's funny, sort of the social hierarchies that you see for the girls on the right and the girls on the left.
Like the girls on the right, they know their power comes from virginity or being Christian, having a cross in the back of their streams, or all that nonsense that you see from Candace Owens or Brett Cooper or whoever, right?
And then you have the girls on the left who are just like, you know, Alex Cooper from Caller Her Daddy or Taylor Swift.
They can sleep with as many guys as they want to, and it's not going to matter.
And they're just looking at the money.
Yeah.
Like if anything, sleeping guys, that appeals to a lot of men in their circles.
Like, I saw one girl, Bernadine Bluntly, I think.
And she's, she did, like, she apparently went from her parents' house, like to her husband's, like, married really young, has like a bunch of kids.
And I'm sitting there.
This woman posted a video of her giving birth on Twitter.
I'm like, I think I would take an absolute whore over a woman live streaming birth.
Was it like she had a family live stream?
No, is she like a family live streamer?
No, she's she she's she builds her brand off of like being a trad wife, basically.
So they're selling something when it comes to that.
The birth, like, are we just talking about like oh, her face, or am I seeing placenta?
No, no, it was just like it was like her screaming.
And I think she took it down because I started roasting her for it.
But it was like, it almost sounded sexual to be, if I'm being honest, like such a it's such an intimate intimate, familial moment.
I think anybody can come out and say that's disgusting.
The only appropriate time to film that or to see footage of that is if you're training for like docs to do deliveries or midwives.
But even then, I watched like 10 of those.
Those things were useless.
Like it's completely different trying to catch a baby.
It's fucking horrible.
Bro, can you tell Undechronic about the need for trad wives to drag their family into building their platform?
Yeah, well, okay.
I kind of grew up like this, so I know how annoying it is.
Like, basically, they're traditional, but they use like, this is the girl I'm talking about.
Like, she's using her kids to build her online brand.
Yeah, you like that's a point you like to attack on anybody that does.
You're pretty consistent with that.
I mean, I grew up, I was the kid, you know, so I know what it's like.
And it's not fun because all your family events are just like become photo shoots.
You were the kid that was the problem.
Yeah.
Like for social credit kind of thing.
Or Facebook.
Yeah.
Think about their husbands.
Their husbands look like they don't want to be there, but they don't have a choice.
Again, like a traditional woman, like if this was my traditional wife, these pictures are appropriate on an Instagram page with just her family and college friends.
Yeah.
But like on Twitter, like especially live streaming the birth, like that's just such a video.
I think she took it down because I roasted her for it.
But I remember it so clearly because it sounded like moaning.
I'm like, dear God, why are you doing that?
You know what?
It's kind of funny.
Like if you see how drastically the social norms have changed since the advent of social media, like if you were to ask people in the 1930s, hey, is it appropriate for you to take pictures of yourself and post it all over your neighborhood for all the men in the neighborhood to look at your pictures?
They'd be like, no, absolutely not.
That's completely obscene.
But then you're like, well, is it okay for girls, you know, nowadays in their 20s, 30s, et cetera, to just post pictures of themselves online?
So, you know, 8 billion people who can access the internet can see pictures of them.
They'd be like, oh, yeah, everyone does it.
It's totally normal.
It shows you that there's a lack of traditionalism and normalization that's happened regardless of you read the Old Testament.
No, I have not.
Okay, well, there's this book.
It's a great book.
I would even recommend it to atheists, Old Testament, Ecclesiastes from King Solomon, the wisest Jew ever, ever.
And he had a lot of wives, exotic types.
He's probably rapping back in the day.
Anyhow, from that book, there's nothing new under the sun.
So you say it's wild that these women are doing this.
Do you think, you know, you think if you had enough coin back in the Roman Empire, you could pay to see women give birth?
Absolutely.
Roman prostitutes would advertise their bust size.
They would have like, they would literally have like models made of their busts and like ship it around to different patricians' houses.
Like this, none of this is new.
This degeneracy has existed many times in the past.
It just requires like a dying civilization that would let women express themselves such a way.
Well, I would say they have existed, but it's sorry, go ahead, Duck.
Is that rumored that the only reason why women give birth in a bed instead of in like the traditional squatting position was some European king love watching like women give birth?
So he required women to like lay in bed with their legs up or some crazy stuff like that.
There was probably a very pervy European king that did that.
But the reason why we do that today is it's if you want to, if you need, and I, I, I sometimes again to beefs on Twitter with the uh, like the birth planning moms is, uh, if I need to, if I need to slice you open to pull the baby out before it chokes, I can't have you on your stomach.
You got to be on your back like look at this guys, this is the audacity.
Like I can't, I can't even.
Oh, I thought I was about to see you know placenta, I have.
No no, I meant to warn me here Pearl, you're talking, you're talking shop with me.
Almost you're close to talking shop and I'm imagining all the.
Oh, I'm just like very very uh, very trad outfit, the boobs out with the kid.
It's like you're using your kid to get attention from like what?
Hold on Pearl, Pearl.
Oh wait, that's Michaela Peterson, right?
Yeah, like she's.
She has.
Oh yeah no, she has herpes.
Um, she has borderline.
What I she?
She posted a list of her prescriptions.
I went through them.
Oh god yeah, I know.
The real question is, since she has herpes and I want to know this I need to get Michaela Peterson, Lauren Southern and Andrew Tate in the room.
Who gave who herpes first?
That's what I want to know.
It's a thousand girls, like that's the numbers he gives.
Like yeah, but you can have different types of herpes.
It's not like there's only one type of herpes, you know.
Yeah, I just think if one out of like what six people have it and he's banged a thousand, like come on yeah, but then you got to ask yourself.
You got to ask yourself too, like who, who between those three people had access to you know, once you go past two or three partners?
So, with the wind, Andrew Tates having sex with chicks right, young chicks.
Lauren Southern and Michaela Peterson were having sex with chads.
Yeah, that's true.
So I don't know, it's just interesting thought experiment.
Um it's, you know the clean your room Benzo had, what a fall from grace her dad had huh, Oh, come on.
Look at that.
Look at the kid in the background.
Look at the background.
That's my favorite picture of her, by the way.
That's my favorite picture.
I'm the one.
There's one of her breastfeeding, and I'm like, Yeah, yeah.
I don't know how breastfeeding.
What do you guys think of that when the trad women want to show their body with the plausible deniability?
Like Michaela Peterson is showing her tits, but it's like breastfeeding.
There is no authentic trad influencer.
If she's traditional, she's trying her number one goal is her family.
So by showcasing herself, her kids, her husband in a political light, because you can't say trad anything without half this country wanting to kill you.
By doing that, you're putting your children at risk, your family at risk.
That's not traditional.
So, again, any influencer that says there's trad, they're not really trad, they're saying they're traded.
The sad part about it is you see conservative influences.
So, pro did an exercise, one of the greatest things I've ever seen, where she took all of the major female trad cont influencers and looked up the value of their husbands, right?
Oh, yeah, marry into money, right?
It's like Candice Owens.
Karen's Candace Owens' husband is worth $150 million.
There's no reason for her to do her show, no reason, none.
She doesn't need to do it, she doesn't have to do it.
Like, she's putting her show and her ego over spending time with her family.
If she were trad, she wouldn't have a show.
She commits 100% of herself to her family, but she's too selfish.
Yes, I don't think she's worth $150 million.
This is all the conservative commentators.
I made a spreadsheet.
So, this is the age, their age of first marriage, age of first child, number of children, net worth of husbands.
This is the kind of hater aid I need.
Yeah, so this is not a good idea.
And then, divorce, still married, a me too accusation.
Some of it's tough to find because I can't really, you know, me too.
It's like I can't follow a girl all through life.
Shady past, nudes on the internet.
But yeah, so I found the trend is if they married before 25, the kids aren't going to come.
Like, they're definitely not going to do the kids early.
So, yeah.
So, if anyone's anyone's got one, I can see if they're in here.
I did about 79.
I found that 31% married the age of first marriage.
Out of 79, 19 were below 25, 25 between 25 and 29, 30 and 34, 14.
But this includes, it also changes by age group with kind of the trends you would sort of expect.
Yeah, so we make for strange bedfellows when it comes to attacking these trad cons.
And when it comes to supporting surrogacy, I kind of make my argument like this: I support surrogacy for the homosexual men.
No diddy, no diddy.
Full-throatedly, I'll support it.
No diddy.
Because, you know, if we're going to get to the point where single straight men are able to use surrogacy, which they can right now, or do you use artificial wombs and such, we need to defend the rights of the homosexuals.
Because if the homosexuals aren't allowed to use this technology, you know for damn sure the straight guys aren't going to be allowed to do it.
There was one story of an Asian dad in Canada.
He had three kids through surrogates.
They did a news piece on him.
I believe it was on the Daily Mail.
It might have been the Daily Mail where he was talking about how he was sick of dating.
So he just bought three kids.
So once we get to the point where straight men have more ease of access into producing children like that, that's going to be, that's going to be very, it's going to be a very interesting intersection, right?
Because what are women going to push for?
You see some technology, women love it, right?
So, feminists will see the artificial womb and they'd be like, this is great.
This is going to free women from the shackles of the uterus.
It is.
If you want to be a boss babe, is you know, if you want to harvest your eggs, harvest your ovaries, go for a career, have kids, use the artificial womb, go ahead.
But in reality, what it's going to, what's going to lead to is a lot of men using their resources to have children.
They're going to choose male children.
It's going to be if it's going to be the great replacement, but it's women.
It's going to be women.
Who's going to choose to raise a daughter?
Some people, but it only takes a couple percent.
It only takes a couple percentage points for generations to make massive changes.
So, my only problem with the surrogate thing, though, is that so, like, single mothers by okay, single mothers are awful, period.
But they're, you know, everything has like a tier list.
So, the best kind of single mother, if you were to go that route, which I recommend you don't, are the ones where the dad is dead, right?
Then you have the ones where they were married, but they got divorced.
Wait, where do you get single mothers out of this?
No, well, well, hold on.
I'll get to it.
Then you have the ones that are.
I was saying, I was talking Ferraris and you said, Well, let's talk about non-shit.
No, listen.
Okay, okay, you're good.
Okay, go on.
Let's get right to it.
Single mothers by choice are awful.
The ones who choose to go it alone.
Like they're the most selfish women on the planet, right?
So you're talking about fathers going into fatherhood alone.
That was a connection.
Yes, we're talking about that, right?
So, wait, you think the worst type of single mother is the one that wants to be a single mother?
Yes.
The ones that get IVF or the ones that get you know, um, uh, uh, go to a sperm bank, choose to do it alone, and their child will never have a father because they were so selfish.
So, let's agree with that.
Let's talk about that.
So, hold on, hold on.
Let's talk about that specific.
No, let's talk about specific because I disapprove of that so much.
Okay.
I can't sign on with men doing the same thing.
I just can't do it.
I can't.
I will.
Sorry.
Well, I mean, go ahead.
Go on, Pearl.
You have anything to say?
No, no, I was just go ahead.
It's just funny because me and him went back and forth.
And I said, I don't know.
I mean, I think that you're comparing two different genders on something you can't compare them at, right?
Saying the worst single mothers are the ones that choose it.
So then the single fathers that choose it are also bad.
Does that include like if a guy adopts his like sons or his best friend's son after a war, like he chose to be a single father?
Is he also in the position that it's just I also think men raise children on their own much more effectively than women?
At the very worst, you can argue a child raised by a single father is as effective as a child raised by two parents.
Some studies show that single father raised children are better than children raised by two parents.
I would believe that.
I haven't really, but that's something I would say.
You got to realize in academia with all this, they would never admit that they would never admit that.
So the fact that they say in the review articles, some show a positive correlation, it's almost guaranteed.
I just personally don't know a single kit person, maybe one actually out of many, where the mother was a positive influence.
I think most did more harm than good.
I agree.
My mom was a fucking scumbag most of my life.
I mean, you guys ever heard of a Pyrrhic victory?
Ever heard of that?
You guys never heard of the term Pyrrhic victory?
Oh, gosh.
Pearlie, I got to take you to Classics 102.
God bless America.
Okay.
It's basically when you win the battle, but you have so many casualties.
It's like, hey, if we keep on winning like this, we're going to lose the war kind of thing.
It's very common saying Pyrrhic victory.
Well, I guess not so much common anymore.
Anyhow, King Pyrrhus, the Greek king it was named after, he kept on kicking the Romans' ass, but all of his men kept on dying.
So he lost the war to the Romans because he kept on winning these Pyrrhic victories.
He was actually killed by a woman, the mom of some soldier of a city he was attacking.
She hit him in the head with a brick, a tile, actually, a roof tile from the top of her house.
So that being said, there is, I will say, I have at least one historical example of a mom saving the day.
So shout out King Pyrrhus and shout out to the mom that yoinked him with a with a ceiling tile.
But back to the original point, I do think that men raising sons, if these are the kind of men who are going to buy the son, this isn't just like, you know, some random dude at a gas station hooking up with some chick.
This is a guy that spends 20K, 30K to buy a son, to plan it out nine months.
Let me get a babysitter.
Let me get some formula kind of thing.
It's a very different type of person than, you know, whoever ends up impregnating a single mother.
Yeah, I agree.
But I understand what Doug MPA is saying too, but I don't know.
Mostly what I'm saying is I just think that most mothers are negatives, not positives.
So I don't have a problem with service.
I would say off the initial analogy, when you were talking about the worst kinds of single mothers, the worst kind of parent is the one that chases the other parent away.
So the worst kind of single mother is the one that chases the father away.
And the worst kind of single father is the one that chases the mother away because there's like an antagonism there.
The child is learning that, you know, one of the biggest enemies that they see every day is part of their family, part of their blood.
So that seems to be worse outcomes for kids.
When the kids see fights, violence, abuse, sexual abuse, neglect off of like, is the kid going to get heart disease?
That's more important on whether or not, and sometimes mothers do it in the same house.
So like the parents could be together and they moms will still drive, like put a wedge between the kids and the dad.
So.
But, you know, they keep on this new coalition of, I guess I want to call them like newly gender aware.
I mean, you must have seen this, Pearl, in the last year and a half.
I mean, when we were invited on Timcast two years ago, yeah, that's kind of, it kind of shows you where the, I use Timpool as a barometer for some of this stuff.
It kind of shows you what people want to listen to.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, but, you know, you see these political types, the left, left, me types, radical moderate types.
They are starting to like talk about policy changes and ideas that a lot of the old school Mannaceer MGTOW guys were talking about back in the day.
So like bachelor tax, there was this discussion about bachelor taxes that kind of went viral four weeks ago.
I was supposed to cover it, but I got lazy.
But you see all these political types that will, you know, they're saying stuff like the fertility rate is bad.
We need to close the borders.
Feminism's gone too far.
But then they say, maybe to increase the fertility rate, we should pass a bachelor tax for like unmarried men past 30.
That's when you start to get some, that's when you get started to get some wild stuff, right?
The discussion in the space for the longest time has been sexless men with no opportunity at forming families or owning land are going to get violent.
Why do I think that?
Well, I mean, just look at history, really.
Like you just look at history.
Anytime there's a ton of young men with no wives, access to women or access to land, they like to go raiding.
That's what the Vikings did.
It's what the Muslims did.
It's what the Chinese did.
It's what the Americans did.
It was before porn existed.
Once Google Image came out in 2000, that's all dead.
Yeah.
So porn is a direct alleviating factor.
So they did studies, I think they did them in India and Japan on access to pornography in a community and like prevalence of violent crimes.
Yeah, there's a direct link between pornography and peace in these societies with all these unruly young men.
That's true.
But if you still look today, who's shooting people today?
Okay, well, let's look at who shot Charlie Kirk?
A guy who had to end up dating a transgender individual.
Did that guy want to date a transgender individual when he was 16?
Or was he-I've been saying that women are just insufferable and fat.
I don't think men are as gay as like.
No, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is this guy, when he was 14, 15, 16, he probably wanted to date a girl really bad.
He probably got rejected a bunch of times.
Yeah.
So even though he's, you know, dating a trans woman, he's still an incel in my mind.
He's an incel.
Who shoots up all these black, who shot up the black church in Nashville?
Dylan Roof, he was an incel.
Look at his picture.
All these people who do these mass shootings, like these crazy, not like the gang shootings, but these mass shootings, politically motivated, shooting up a school.
They're all incels.
So the men are still lashing up violently.
You just don't notice it as like this incel rebellion because these incels also have political ideologies, white supremacy, communism, Antifa, but it's still a bunch of incels shooting people.
Supporting surrogacy is the number one way to get laws changed in the divorce court.
Once there is a substitute for the uterus, surrogacy will force women to negotiate in family and divorce courts.
How far out do you think we are from surrogacy being like a reality?
Where like I kind of use things a litmus test when things start affecting my real life.
Like usually it's like two or three years after I cover it.
Like for example, I covered SSRIs two or three years ago and some of my close friends got on them like two or three years later.
When do you think we'll be to the point where like everybody or at least a good chunk of people are going to know somebody getting a surrogate that's a man?
I mean, I've heard of a few people do it, but it's usually people that are like upper middle class or relatively rich who can do stuff like that, right?
Like even the treasury secretary did something like that, right?
So it kind of tells you that it's, it's going to be a rich person's game to play unless you're willing to, you know, fly to Columbia and then, you know, kind of offshore the role itself.
What you need is the customer base first, right?
And the customer base is men who want children that have resources, right?
A lot of men who want children that have resources either got burnt through dating women, lost their resources, or they got kids, just whatever.
So it's, you need to give it five, 10 years for younger men who hear these arguments, hear these words, don't get the kind of woman they want.
Because it's not just, oh, I can't get women.
For guys that reach whatever threshold it is, like I can get dates.
I can date chicks.
They're not atrocious.
They're decent looking.
They're somewhat nice.
But there's almost always like one or two fatal flaws.
Like, oh, yeah, she is bipolar or, oh, she has a massive body count.
Or like, oh, she has massive student debt.
So I think 10, 10, 15 years for surrogate, surrogacy is a reality now.
It's just right now, it's probably gay couples, lesbian couples, and women that don't want to go through the birth process.
The overall average cost of a full surrogacy journey in the United States is between $100,000 and $200,000.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's too expensive.
Pearl dealers.
You fly to Brazil, Brazil, Mexico, a place with at least a modern capital city.
You'll get decent health care.
You don't really, you know, as long as you don't choose a surrogate that's going to be getting hammered every day.
But it's really easy.
Like upon the birth, you go to the hospital, you do some genetic testing.
She drank too much.
She decided to act a fool.
You leave the bastard in that country and you dip.
Like, it's not my fault.
You couldn't put the bottle back.
Yeah, yeah, but there's all sorts of issues, right?
You know, she may use it as a hostage, like, hey, you know what?
Now I want double or things like that.
You can keep it.
You gave me a free kid.
You can keep it.
I'm keeping my money.
I'll go to the next country.
Yeah.
Like, I have all the power.
Pearl, do you believe in the Bible?
Um, yes, but sort of.
I don't know.
Okay.
Sorry, keep going.
I try to read the super, so sorry.
Pearl's a new age Lutheran.
She's not one of those old age Lutherans, guys.
My only problem.
I don't know.
I don't know what I am, but I don't know.
Christians have just exhausted me.
So I don't know.
Can I comment on that real quick?
Did not only if you're not going to make this into a religious debate.
Well, no, I'm not going to do that.
But it is like related to the red pill.
I think it could help guys is like the Bible contradicts itself all the time.
Like, don't worry about the Bible.
Just worry about your brain.
Just like you have a brain, use your brain.
There's a okay.
Yeah.
So, I mean, my only problem with the whole surrogacy argument is I do think men would raise a child like in a single parent situation much better than a woman would.
But I have to ask myself, would I want to be raised by a single dad?
If the answer is no, why would I want to do that to a child?
Maybe that's just how a lot of men think.
Really, it seems awful.
Wait, wait, wait, Eeyore, Eeyore, wait, Eeyore.
What country do you live in if you don't want me to sean?
Uh, U.S. okay.
Uh, Eeyore, um, do you want to raise your child in a country run by satanic child abusers?
Uh, no, okay, so then you're not gonna have kids, right?
In the U.S., it's not optimal, right?
I mean, I'm in Texas, like it's relatively conservative.
Well, I'm saying that's the argument.
Since you would rather have two parents, you're not gonna do the surrogacy, right?
Well, I would rather not live in a country run by satanic child abusers, but I can't change that.
So, for some men, if they want to, what I say is surrogacy frees men and their children from bloodthirsty feminism.
If men want a zero percent chance that their wife is going to take their kid to California and castrate them, surrogacy is the choice or just go to Iran.
Yeah, or yeah, no, that's the thing.
It's like, hey, you're comparing surrogacy to moving to an Islamic country.
For a lot of guys, Western guys, surrogacy sounds better than bro.
That's the thing, though.
Sharia law does have the man's back, that is true, sure, but it doesn't have white Christian.
I think a childhood with just the dad sounds awesome.
I mean, hey, my childhood was going to hike up and down the Appalachian Trail all my childhood.
That's what it was.
That I don't say too much, but that sounds awesome to me.
Um, okay, I got to close out the show, though.
We're getting on the two and a half hour mark.
Um, but I would love to have you back if you want to come on one-on-one.
I know we talked about it a while ago, but I think I was moving or something.
I just keep on getting banned on X for being too aggressive.
I'll find a way to hit you.
You have a Discord, right?
I do actually.
I'll get on your Discord.
We'll get something scheduled one up.
We'll put the Discord in the chat.
But yeah, you're really interesting to talk to.
So I'd love to have you back.
It'd be fun.
I'll contact you later.
Have a happy holidays and Merry Christmas.
And you guys listening, take it easy.
Thanks.
The man that met the legend.
By Dad Conic.
Let's go.
Well, this was fun.
Did you have fun, Doug?
Yeah, it was good.
It's cool.
Well, the Bible is truer in the answer for society.
You're smarter than all your guests on the call.
Look, I don't know.
I've seen the Bible weaponized too many times to just shit on men that I just, I can't say what I believe.
I don't know.
Sometimes I think there's some answer.
Like, there's some things you just don't know.
I don't know.
I think, Doug, you say the same thing.
What is that?
I think you say the same thing about religion, don't you?
Yeah, you know, your dad said it the best, you know.
For me, it's just like the wrong kind of people use it to try to tell me who's actually a compass and stuff, like what to do.
And it's just like, I don't know, man.
My biggest problem, I can see how someone can have like a personal walk, but like the whole organized part thing, like who, why do we instill pastors with so much power?
Why do we instill the church?
And they're losers.
A lot of times they're losers.
Like pastors, like they're people that haven't accomplished anything.
You're going to, and it's, it was kind of dehabilitating because it's like I would see my father, who's not religious at all, act more moral than any religious person I've ever met.
That's been my whole life.
My whole life is like that.
Yeah.
And that's just, and I'm like, so if the Bible's true, why is it the people that say they're following the Bible?
Like, I don't know how to put it.
Like, the most moral people I've met don't follow it or like.
Yeah.
It's like they're good people to just to be good people.
They don't need some kind of threat or some kind of reward at the end of life to be a good person.
They're a good person because they're a good person.
Yeah.
So, well, guys, thanks for calling in, everybody.
Thank you, Doug MPA.
Always good to talk to you.
You too.
I'm getting kind of hungry, so I'm going to go.
But I appreciate you guys tuning in.
And if you have any questions, comments, concern, you know, feel free to put in the comment section.
I do try to read the comments every show.
So I'll go back and I'll read some of the top comments together.
And in terms of showtime, it's just around this time.
You guys are just going to, sometimes if something fun happens, I'll do it earlier or later or whatever.
But I've been going a little earlier so I can get more sleep.