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Sept. 28, 2025 - Pearly Things - Pearl Davis
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Why Modern Women Mourn Men Like Tupac and Not Charlie Kirk | Pearl Daily

Pearl Daily critiques Erica Kirk’s mourning of her assassinated husband, Charlie Kirk—a "Christian conservative family guy"—as opportunistic, wearing heavy makeup and pivoting to his organization’s mission instead of grief. Unlike Jackie Kennedy’s dignified, private sorrow or Tupac’s widely mourned legacy, Kirk’s public reaction felt performative, forgiving the killer swiftly while deflecting scrutiny from her past. The episode explores how women’s grief is often weaponized for attention, especially when tied to high-value men, and warns that such behavior risks undermining sincerity while inviting judgment of their own history. [Automatically generated summary]

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You taught me to shoot my first basket.
You made us fifth grade conference champions.
I never cared about the fans.
I just love seeing you in the stands.
Long talks on the ride home.
I miss them when we're on the phone.
Cause not all girls get a dad like you.
And I'm so lucky that I have you.
Oh, there's no way I could ever thank you for all of the things you helped me to do.
I'm so happy, blood's thicker than water.
Cause damn it, I'm so proud to be your daughter.
I used to hate green eyes, I wanted blue.
But now I love them cause I look like you.
They say I ain't pretty, but I don't care.
Cause when I smile, I see your face Cause not all girls get a dad like you And I'm so lucky that I have you.
Oh, there's no way I could ever thank you for all of the things you helped me to do.
I'm so happy, blood's thicker than water.
Cause damn it, I'm so proud to be your daughter.
When I grow up, I wanna be like you.
Maybe if I'm half as good as you, you're the one I've always looked up to.
When I grow up, I wanna be like you.
I never cared about the money or fame.
I'm just proud that I have your last name because not all girls get a dad like you.
And I'm so lucky that I have you.
Oh, there's no way I could ever thank you for all of the things you helped me to do.
I'm so happy, blood's thicker than water.
Cause damn it, I'm so proud to be your daughter.
Alright, what up guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
Thank you for tuning in.
As you guys know, I'm in my Taylor Swift era, so you're going to be forced.
You're forced, yep, to listen to all of the songs I have written over the years.
But, but, out of the kindness of my heart, I'm also going to freestyle.
So, if you put a word in the chat on the fly, I am going to write you a song because I am that good.
I really am that good.
Not a piano, but I can do the lyrics stuff.
You want me to write a song about Herpes?
Really?
Really?
Oh my god.
Oh, my.
It's the gift that keeps on giving God's repayment for sinning.
It's the gift that keeps on winning.
Oh, shoot, only half play.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
God's punishment for sinning.
Oh, it's gonna keep on winning.
I can't remember that chord.
I'm sorry, guys.
I'm gonna have to do it on the other chord pattern.
Hold on.
It's this.
And then that's what it is.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
God's punishment for sinning.
Unfortunately, it's winning.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
And a couple times a month it's gonna be itchy.
A couple times a month you're gonna get bitchy.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
It's I think that hell is winning.
Herpes.
I don't know.
Why would you do that to me?
All right, give me another one that's a little bit kawi.
I promise you guys, when my piano skills match up to how fast I can think of lyrics, it's over.
You guys won't even know what to do with me.
You won't even know, like, you won't.
Although it can be a bitch, you'll get the familiar itch.
Blue hair.
Thank you.
Wait, this girl made me stop and stare.
She was real pretty, but she had blue hair.
I'm thinking, girl, why would you do that to yourself?
You could have been fat or had bad acne.
You could have had all of these.
No, no, no, no.
I don't know.
This one's not really coming.
Okay.
We'll do, we'll get better as we go on.
But I, the herpes, that was crazy.
Sing about your savior.
I kind of did a song on that once.
Sometimes it's hard for me to believe.
But I have hope.
I know that he bleeds for a poor sinner like me.
Off the dome.
Look at.
They can't.
Thank you.
All right.
So I'm going to go into today's episode.
Thank you guys for watching my Taylor Swift era.
So we're going to cover a few things on the show tonight before we get into the main topic.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
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And do you know what?
I'm thinking about releasing.
I don't know if I want to do it, but I was looking at, I have recordings of all of the meetings I had with YouTube when I got demonetized.
And I was re-listening to them the other day, and I was getting so pissed because I was just on it, I was on a call with these women, right?
And these women are just gaslight.
Like, I remember saying, ladies, ladies, if I can prove this generalization with a fact, can I say it?
And they're like, no, that's hate speech.
And I'm like, yeah, let me just kill myself.
And, oh my gosh, I was getting so mad.
I'm thinking about it, but I don't know.
I don't want to get, I'm thinking about it.
Okay, so the first topic we're going to go into is men are walking away from standing up for women.
So our entire life, you know, men are sold this virtue, that there is virtue in standing up for women.
Like if a woman's getting beat up on the train, you got, you know, here's, you know, if a woman's getting beat up on the train, that you got to be the guy to save the day.
If a woman's getting beat up by her boyfriend, that you got to get in the middle and save the day.
And I think this is sold and it kind of takes advantage of men's innate protector instinct.
You know, men, just on a deep biological level, they hate seeing women fail.
I mean, why do you think they gave us all of these rights?
Because they hate seeing us upset.
And women know that.
Women know, we have a tendency to know just how much men want to solve our problems for us.
They hate seeing us struggle.
So I would say this, in a way, propaganda is the wrong message to send to men.
And the reason I would say that is not because it's not a heroic thing to do.
It's always heroic to stand up for somebody that's weaker than you.
But in this society, I would argue that in a way, women are stronger than men in terms of what power we have.
And the challenge is, you know, women said, we want to be our own person.
I want to vote away from you.
I want to make my own money.
And the men said, fine.
And now women are getting, you know, attacked on trains.
We're getting robbed.
There's even videos of women literally getting punched in the face for no reason.
And the women are saying, men, help us.
Men, protect us.
And there's a woman named Ada Luis.
Luis.
Let me get this.
Okay, wait, hold on.
I got to pull it up.
She's basically a right-wing e-girl, and she's like the Spanish girl who sells purity while dressing like a whore.
It's just your typical right-wing e-girl, you know, the classic one.
And what happened was she is now tweeting that men need to protect women from all of the migrants that women are voting to allow into Europe.
And so what happens is women keep voting for these policies and doing these things that make us completely unsafe.
You know, the men will say, do you really want to go out at night into all these bars where people are drinking?
And the women are like, yes, we're dying to be whores.
And the men are like, are you sure you might get the herp derp?
You might get ghosted, all this bad stuff.
And we say, no, we want to do it.
And I do think on some level, people do have the right to their hell.
If you want to live in hell on earth, I think that's your right as a person.
You know, I had a cousin, and I'm actually going to talk about him later this stream, but I was really close with this cousin growing up, and he lived with us for a while, but he had an addiction problem.
And it was really tough watching him because he just really could not.
And it's eventually what he passed away of was his addiction to a certain drug, I'll say.
But at some point, you know, we tried to help him.
And you have to kind of lay up your hands and say, you have the right to your own hell.
And what happens is most women vote liberal.
It's not like I understand we have the right-wing e-girls, but it's always right-wing e-girl until we're not, right?
Until we switch up when our beauty starts to fade out or whatever.
But regardless, I don't think men are required to protect us anymore because we keep voting to be unsafe.
We keep making sure we don't care about our safety.
If women cared about our safety, we wouldn't be solo traveling.
We wouldn't be living alone.
We wouldn't be moving to cities where there's more crime.
You know, our actions do not scream safety.
And the other part of this that I was going to talk about is men have even invented something for us to protect ourselves.
We can carry.
Concealed carry is, I mean, I understand it depends on the state, but nothing's stopping you from moving to a state where that's allowed or a place where you can do it and protecting yourself.
So on some level, in my opinion, the answer to feminism is giving women the freedom they asked for.
Women asked to be equal, treat them equal.
And I don't really see it going back until the majority of men have this mindset.
Again, that's why they want to stop.
That's why they want to stop this kind of content.
It's because the more men get a hold of this information, you know, men are not like women, right?
Or even liberal men.
They're not going to really riot.
They're not going to tear down the streets.
Men's version of, you know, rioting or fighting back is just ignoring it, walking away.
And that's really what's happening in this migrant situation.
Women have begged and pleaded for men to, I'm going to find this lady's name.
I thought I had it in this doc.
They have begged for men to, you know, to let in the immigrants.
And the men said, fine, go ahead.
You have the voting power.
And now the women are complaining.
And I just, I don't think it's, I don't think it's fair when women are living the life of celebrities, oftentimes at the expense of men.
I can't find.
I swore I had this in the dock, but I forgot it.
It's all right.
But my whole, oh, here it is.
Ha Oh, wait, no, that's her response.
That's her response.
Oh, now she wants to come to America.
Of course she does.
It's like women vote left in Europe and then they're like, oh, you know how ironic it is for a woman saying she wants to leave Europe to come to America while fighting against immigration.
It's like, women don't have any idea.
Okay, so, oh, here it is.
Here it is.
I think I speak in the name of all European women when I say we no longer feel safe in our streets.
It's time to protect us.
Yeah, Ada, I mean, but here's the problem: men can't protect women from ourselves.
You know, they can't stop us from texting and driving.
They can't stop us from being whores.
They can't stop, like, you know, even with all the crime that's that's happening.
Men, women are not, you're not likely to be the victim of a violent crime.
Even statistically, your odds of that happening are still more likely it won't happen that happens.
But women, it's like we find every way to make it more likely it'll happen.
We get on Tinder, we're alone with men.
I mean, you know, the men, when they see something crazy on the news, they're like, all right, I'm not taking public transport.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay out.
I'm gonna stay in.
And here, Rachel, as a reply to this, she says, you cannot demand equality and demand the privilege of protection.
You have to pick one.
I pick protection since equality is just an illusion, which still requires men using force to uphold my notion of women's rights.
Yeah, and okay, then you go to the women and say, hand over abortion.
And the women are like, no.
And we're like, hand over abortion.
You want our protection.
The men come in and they say, you want our protection.
You are no longer 100% in control of who's born.
Can women ever give up control of anything ever?
I mean, guys, I, you know, I'd like to say, I think I'm more self-aware than a lot of women.
And even I struggle with it.
It's like in our nature.
We're not supposed to have this much power.
It's not meant.
This was not supposed to be given to us, but we begged for it.
We asked.
We nagged men.
And do you know what I think the worst part is?
It's not like men, I think, are scared of women at mass.
I mean, to some extent they are.
I just think they want the nagging to stop.
They just want, that's the power of men just give women what they want to make them go away and it creates monsters.
Okay, so the other thing I wanted to talk about, let's see.
Oh, I wanted to give an update on my thoughts on women's sports.
So we have, apparently, Jupura, Jerupa Valley High School girls' volleyball team is still struggling to find opponents after Patriot High became the eighth school to refuse a matchup because of the trans player.
Okay, so I actually think that we should have more men in women's sports.
I think we should actually have more trans people, not less.
And the reason being is not because I think it's fair.
I think it's extremely unfair.
But again, I have a personal story with this.
When I was in England, I played volleyball overseas.
Sports was a huge part of my life.
Still to this day, I'm just an athlete at heart.
I love playing sports.
And I played volleyball, basketball.
And there was a tournament I did where there were trans people in the tournament.
And I went around and I'm like, hey, can we not?
Can we not?
Do you know what I mean?
And the majority of women at that tournament, do you know what they said?
They were telling me to shut up.
They said, stop making a scene.
They were in our locker rooms.
I saw them.
And that's, I mean, these are the terrorists we're dealing with.
I'm not talking about the trans people.
I'm talking about female athletes that at this point, you know, I did make some good friends in sports.
And it's not, I know it's not 100% because there were women that had a problem with it.
But hey, you guys, and this is kind of what I think the solution is: is you guys fought to have the trans people in the sports compete, have fun, ladies.
And the men just got to say, good luck.
Yep, good luck.
You voted for this.
Same thing with the immigration.
I mean, if you see some guy pickpocketed, pickpocketing a woman, I mean, odds are he'll hit on her later and she'll be in love.
It's like, and then you'll be the bad guy for calling it out.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like those guys that get in between a girl getting beat up by her boyfriend and he's thinking, oh, I'm going to step in and save her.
And then he gets killed and the woman goes and sleeps with her boyfriend again.
It's like, what was that for?
And I think that's really the equivalent of what's going on in society today.
I just, okay, my last point is, all right, so there is this couple.
I can't even believe I'm covering this, but I think it's an important lesson for the women, the women watching to understand.
So there was a couple that was dating, and it was Sam Frank and Neon.
And this was a streamer and this OF model.
And now, in today's society, the OF model is probably like an eight.
She was really young at the time when they started dating.
Plus, America's fat.
In normal society, she's probably an eight.
She's making a ton of money off of OnlyFans.
She meets this streamer, Neon.
They start dating, right?
And Neon's like this awkward, dorky streamer.
Okay.
And in all intents and purposes, I think the perception of the relationship is that she could do better in a way.
It's kind of rich, the society we're in.
We're OnlyFans, where hookers can essentially do better than it doesn't make sense, but I think maybe that was kind of the public perception because she was much better looking.
And as a woman, I just want you to know: if you date a man and he could date you, that means he could date somebody hotter than you.
If he has the skills to get you, he will get somebody younger and hotter.
It's not if, it's when.
And this is something as a woman you have to make peace with because you will go crazy if you don't.
You will.
I mean, this is not if he'll do better.
It is when he will do better because we just age every day.
We get less valuable and we get uglier.
And that's life.
Where the men, they just get better looking as long as they don't have some like crash out.
So now, you know, he's single again.
And look at this.
Is the woman?
Is this screen showing?
Yeah, okay.
So now he's having this hunger coming up to him.
Who cares about this?
You could see he's getting female attention now, like this young woman is coming up to him.
And clout is definitely a drug.
So that while this is a unique situation, right?
Because of the clout, this does happen in normal life, and you can kind of see it play out.
Now you got these pretty girls giving him more attention.
And now his ex gets to watch it on stream.
He also has a new girlfriend.
And now this is his ex-girlfriend, Sam Frank.
But yeah, guys, I'm.
She's trying to now make him jealous because she gets to go to all these events, which is crazy, by the way.
It's crazy that.
Hold on, I should put the audio on.
But it's crazy that a hooker is getting invited to UFC events to stream.
Like, that's crazy.
So, um, next week, we are going to be going to Vegas.
Okay, let me find the one of her crashing out.
But she goes on stream and she crashes out because, I mean, she looks like this.
And he basically got a carbon copy clone of her with a slightly better body.
And who is younger?
She was 18.
And she was crashing out on stream and like all upset, even though she dumped him.
That's really what we do.
We never appreciate the guy until let's see until they can do better.
All right, Sam, Frank, Neon, new girlfriend.
Let's pull this up.
For the two women that are watching my show, yes, hold on.
No, you didn't try this yet, though.
Hold on, wait.
So, this one, and then you eat the leaf, too.
leaves.
She dumped him by the way.
Yeah, so this girl was more wholesome.
I mean, she's still got her boobs out, obviously, but she's a more wholesome demeanor.
Sam probably has a slightly better face card, but I put her body as better.
And this is just life, ladies.
I mean, I remember, you know, I don't think I have a single ex that didn't do better after me.
It's just part of life.
Like, they will, because if they can date you, you have officially set the standard for them.
So, if you're the hottest girl he's ever been with, then the girls that are on your level will now deem him as part of the club.
So, now he can actually select from the women at your level.
It's life.
And now she's finding out this sad part of life.
It will, you know, as a woman, you probably will have a crash out, especially when you're young.
This is not a fun experience.
Most women will go through this.
Yep, it's not when your ex will do better.
If your ex will do better, it's when.
The only exception is some women make their exes lives such hell that they don't do better because they're just, you know.
But yeah, in general.
In general.
Oh, I do.
Okay.
Okay, let me.
Let me go on.
Thanks for tuning in.
We'll get to the topic.
We will, we will.
Give me a second.
All right.
So the attorney.
Oh, Andrew, we got law of self-defense.
In college, I dated a girl for three months, was asked to introduce her at a party, and realized I hadn't actually bothered to memorize her name.
For all of human history, women have not been generally allowed to make.
Wait, sorry, I can't read.
For all of human history, women have not generally been allowed to make societally important decisions, except for the shit show of the last hundred years.
Isn't it crazy how for all of history this has not happened?
But it just so happens that we were born in this lifetime.
Isn't that kind of crazy?
Like, you could have been born in any other era.
We never would have seen any of this.
But because we were born today, we probably will only see this.
Isn't that kind of crazy to think about?
What is the best way to send you a show topics request?
I would say Twitter, actually, pearly things with the Z.
Okay.
So thank you guys.
Let me actually put the chat on the right.
Let me refresh this.
I appreciate you guys.
Oh, Roulette Wheel.
Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
Okay, so today, I guess I'm going to do the uncomfortable topic again because nobody else is doing it of criticizing a widow.
I mean, God, somebody's got to do it.
I guess it's going to be me.
Yeah, okay.
So there is a sentiment that people want to talk about this topic, but they are afraid to on the right.
So I have decided for all intents and purposes, I will be the messenger.
And we're going to talk about Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk.
Her response to Charlie Kirk getting assassinated.
Now, I think there's a general sentiment that her reaction and her way of going about things has been, I'm going to pull it up on this, this thing, has been quite odd, to say the least.
It's been very strange.
Let me pull up.
And this recently got worse.
So we covered last week.
So Charlie Kirk gets assassinated.
And after he gets assassinated, Erica Kirk is named the CEO of Turning Point.
She's doing public appearances the day after.
She does a memorial where she really barely talks about him as a person.
She starts.
Actually, I have a list here.
Okay, so let me go.
Let me start over because I butchered that a little bit.
Okay.
There is a sentiment that people want to talk about but are afraid to on the right.
I have decided for all intents and purposes, I will be the messenger.
Now, today we're talking about what is an appropriate way to mourn.
Now, the right seems to be having a conversation on Twitter that I really would like to bring to the center stage.
I think a lot of people are feeling this.
Is there a tactful way to grieve?
Now, I want you guys, I want to clarify when I'm talking about this.
I am not saying that she's not sad.
This does not mean she's not upset privately.
No one can really know the level of sadness that she's going through.
But there's just something odd I've just been seeing with her behavior.
And I just have to.
I'm the woman that just has to say it.
Do you know what I so and I would just say the way she's going about this, it just does not appear to be tactful.
It kind of sees, you know, and kind of the way people have been milking Charlie Kirk's death has been, oh, I am so sad.
Give me money.
You can't criticize the way I grieve.
Like it's kind of been that.
Sign up for my, oh, I'm so sad.
Sign up for my email list.
Please donate.
You cannot criticize the way I grieve.
Now, I wanted to look into a couple famous widows and compare and contrast their reactions and the way they went about things versus Erica's reaction to my observations about it.
So Erica just does not appear sad when she's going on these podcasts, when she's talking in front of everybody.
Her behavior is not that of a sad person.
Now, I'm not saying that she's not sad privately.
I understand there is this idea that everybody grieves differently.
And all I can on this show, all I could speak from is my experience.
understand other people have experiences, different experiences.
But I just find that when it comes to grief, usually it's pretty visceral reaction that people can't really control, especially women.
Men have more of a tendency to put on like a hard face, you know, for the public and private, but women have a much more difficult time controlling their emotions.
just in my experience.
And I just did not see that visceral reaction from her.
She had no tears.
She actually wiped tears that were not there.
Every time I see her, she's in super heavy makeup.
She's doing a lot of public appearances.
She took over her husband's position.
Her and the company are making money off of it and sending email alerts from the widow asking people to donate, like literal emails asking for money.
And it just seems like they're really milking this and it just kind of puts a poor taste in my mouth.
She's immediately in the public eye and she just did a podcast and smiled the entire time.
When she did the eulogy, it had little to do with him.
It had more to do about the stuff he did for her, how good of a wife she was, how good of a marriage they had, how Charlie's success came from her being a wife.
And she even lectured men on how to be better men.
And she forgave the killer like two days later.
Now, this just does not, to me, seem to be the behavior of a grieving widow.
If I'm being 100% honest, that I think anybody that notices this gets immediate pushback.
And I don't think the people that are noticing this have malice in their heart.
I know I don't have any malice in my heart.
And I would actually prefer the men around her to guide her about the way to act appropriately in this situation.
Maybe she just does what she wants.
But it just kind of seems like one of those situations where nobody in her circle tells her no.
Because there's just no way that grieving in the public eye is a good idea.
It's just not.
You're either not going to look sad enough and make people, oh, just the way this is going is going to open her to scrutiny in a way I don't think would be best for her kids and her.
I don't think she had anything to do with the murder.
I know some people are kind of going down that speech, like down that rabbit hole.
But to me, that seems a little far-fetched.
But again, I think people are looking at this and thinking her behavior is a little bit odd.
Now, I want to talk about the pushback that pretty much anybody who said this on Twitter has gotten.
So we got someone said a grieving widow just watched her husband get shot to death in front of her and their two children two weeks ago.
And this is her on a recent podcast.
Now, I think we just have to be honest here and say this is strange.
Now, everybody's kind of arguing on Twitter.
They say after my dad died, my mom, my sister, and I sat on the hospital room sharing stories of my dad.
He was lying there in bed and we were sitting next to him eating Reese's cups talking about a beef eater, gin, his favorite treat, and laughing loudly enough that the nurse came in and asked us to be quiet.
I loved him more than I can begin to explain, and I still have moments when his absence hits me like a Mac truck.
Laughter is the only thing that saves us from a soul-crushing emptiness of loss.
You were a vile human who sold their soul for clout in clicks.
Now, I understand the sentiment.
Again, people do grieve differently.
However, just in my experience, I think that grief is an emotion that takes over your body.
And at times, somebody dies, and I think people maybe were not as sad as they originally thought they would be.
I think I've seen that happen where there's a death in the family.
But personally, when I had that cousin that died, I was very close with him growing up.
And, you know, when he passed away, I had a visceral reaction in my body.
And it wasn't something I could just, and yeah, you might laugh at times, maybe about stories about him.
But this just isn't really the same thing.
You know, donate me money.
And I think it makes a lot of people feel uneasy.
But anybody who says it now is, you know, being criticized.
We have another one.
And I think women are coming in and criticizing and defending each other because the sisterhood is just so strong.
A seasoned pastor taught my husband something early on in the ministry.
We were heading to the hospital with three kids in our youth group whose father was almost brain dead because a tractor had rolled onto him, crushing his chest.
He told us to take the kids out for ice cream, not to sit staring at their father on a ventilator.
He said, grieving means taking breaks.
You cannot endlessly turn tragic events in your mind.
You cannot cry non-stop.
In fact, it's harmful.
Failing to give your mind and your body a break from the shock does not allow you to move through the stages of grief and healing.
I don't need to learn this lesson twice.
Over the last 30 years, we have met with parents, children, and spouses, and we have had, we have been handed terrible diagnosis where children were delivered, stillborn, whose father died in a multi-car freeway pileup, whose mother was strangled by a man renting her upstairs studio.
When we met them, we meet them where they are.
We mourn when they mourn.
We sit in heavy silence, and sometimes we take them out to go putt-putting.
We encourage them to, okay, laughing doesn't diminish a tragedy.
It helps you process it more fully.
Now, again, I don't think this is just laughing.
And I think, you know, the right is missing how the cameras will always make people doubt your sincerity.
It's kind of the same, I would say it's the same sentiment that I had with Nala Ray.
You know, Nala Ray was an ex-OnlyFans woman.
I'm not saying these two situations are the same.
They're obviously very different, but the comparison will still stand.
Nala Ray was a OF model who got baptized and decided to stop doing OnlyFans, even though she was still doing it at the time of getting baptized.
And for months after, she still had to count.
When you bring out a phone, when I say, I believe in Jesus Christ, my Savior, that's one thing privately, or I say it to my friends, whatever.
But then when I go, I believe in Jesus Christ, my Savior.
Do you know what I mean?
It just kind of waits when you have like an intimate moment and then you're going like this.
People think it's kind of odd.
I think Kirk's wife needs to do more interviews to tell women it's okay to be a housewife and a mother instead of being an OnlyFans model.
Well, you have to understand most women are not going to look at Erica Kirk.
Erica Kirk is an example of a woman who won.
Remember, she got married at 29, meaning that she spent her whole youth in a big city park doing God knows what, went to the University of Arizona.
She's not, what's going to happen, and I'll show you, is by putting her in the spotlight, more, you do not spend a decade in Scottsdale in New York City and not have a little bit of dirt.
It's going to come out and it's already starting to.
And that's not a good situation for her to be in.
There's a lot of people that hate her husband.
All right, trauma and grief manifest in many ways.
Often we block it out.
After I watch a loved one take a point blank 45 to their school, people harassed me over how calloused I was for partying in the aftermath.
I was trying to block out a trauma I couldn't handle by getting drunk.
Leave her alone.
She's trying to hold on however she can.
And again, this is the women.
I mean, the men kind of see this and they think something's not right.
And what happens is the women, we just always, we always defend behavior that is just not great, if I'm being honest.
It's just not, I would say it's, it's distasteful.
It's kind of, and I know, I know what people are going to say.
They're going to say Charlie would have wanted this.
I don't know if he would have.
I don't.
All right, there are, these are people that have never grieved.
If you do it in isolated, if you do it in isolated and silent, it takes over everything.
The best way to survive is to live, laugh, and take breaks, even when it's horrible.
And I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment, but again, there's a difference between living, laughing, and taking breaks and living, laughing, and taking breaks.
You know what I mean?
It's just a different, it's just a different, donate to my cause, live, laugh, take breaks.
Okay, then we're just going to get more women gaslighting.
And that's kind of the female strategy.
Whenever a woman does something to make women look bad, women will gaslight and say that it's not real.
Like when we first found out, when the internet came and women started admitting to like gangbangs on camera and doing it on camera, the response was to gaslight and say that not all women are like that.
And this is kind of the same thing.
It's, you know, not all women are whores.
I mean, that was, you know, here we're going to say, well, grieving, everyone grieves differently.
And again, I think there's a respectful way to grieve and a disrespectful way to grieve.
And I would say this is on, this has gone way past disrespectful, gone way past.
We got Zeke here.
Everyone grieves and mourns in their own way.
No one except Erica knows about her alone grieving moments.
When my great-granddad died, our family celebrated his life.
We mourned, but we also told stories about him, looked at pictures, went down memory lane, and we were happy he was with great grandma.
Erica vowed to continue Charlie's mission.
That's called strength and perseverance.
I know that's a foreign concept to the left, seeing how you all function on a hate and intolerance, but on the side, it's what you do.
I'm proud of Erica as we are millions.
No hugs.
I don't need, I don't hug pathetic people.
And that's what it is.
They say, you're a bad person if you find anything odd about this.
I have noticed that whenever a woman does something distasteful, we are quick to blame a man, that it must be her handlers.
But it seems to me she is doing exactly what she wants to be doing.
It's the same way when women bang somebody, it's always that we got used and it was the man's fault.
It's the same thing when women were just tricked.
I mean, that's the biggest one conservative simps will say.
Women were tricked by feminism.
How convenient.
How convenient that you were tricked into throwing it back on these hot guys.
Like, imagine if the men cheated on the women and they said, oh, I got tricked by these big tits.
Do you know what I mean?
We would be like, uh, but for some reason, for some reason, when it comes to women, we just are always tricked, right?
I would say the way that she has been mourning has been off-putting to a lot of people.
There is a lack of sincerity to it.
Now, I am going to compare the way that women mourned Tupac's death and the way that Erica is mourning Charlie.
I'm also going to compare JFK.
So, we're going to start with JFK.
Jackie actually kept on her bloodstained clothes and she said she wanted the killers to see what they did.
So, when JFK died, they went to the Oval Office and they swore in the new president, the vice president at the time.
She kept on the clothes of him bleeding on her, so they saw what they did.
And there was no smiles.
There was just a sincerity in, you could tell in her grief and respect in her grief.
You know, she didn't come out and say, Oh, I forgive him to two days later.
I'd say it's much harder.
You know, if someone took somebody really close to me, it would take me more than two days to forgive them personally.
So it's just a bit odd.
know this reaction is just a bit strange um one seems tasteful and one one does not One seems respectful, one seems disrespectful, but nobody wants to say it.
If it was my brother who died, to be honest, I would be pissed.
I really would be.
If it was, I just kind of think, because Charlie Kirk, he kind of reminds me of my brother a little bit.
And I'm very close with this brother.
And if somebody, like, if I think if my brother died, even if it was a cause he believed in and they were just milking his death light, I just, I think it would make me sick to my stomach.
I really wonder how the immediate family feels about this.
I don't know.
So I would have some recommendations of what I would have said to do.
Now, this is just my opinion.
You can take it or leave it.
I would say I would have recommended she leaves the public eye for a minimum of one to two weeks and up to three to six months at least.
And the reason being, you know, I was looking up how long they ask YouTubers to stay out of the public eye after a scandal.
And that's a scandal, right?
The son of death.
They say to leave the public eye for a minimum two weeks, up to six months.
But the problem is women are so phone addicted now and so clout and attention addicted.
We do not know how to have almost normal human interactions.
We don't, we are so addicted to our phones that I mean, we're using death for clout at this point.
It's bad.
Yeah, I know what they're saying.
Christians, they see it differently than you.
I think a lot of Christians see it like this.
I really do.
I think there's a lot of Christians that find it disrespectful to do a funeral in a stadium.
In that, it wasn't even actually the stadium, to be honest.
I think it was more just the manner they did it in.
Like the fireworks going off.
There's just a lack of like.
I'll show you guys JFK's funeral and you'll see.
All right, now we listened to Erica Kirk's reaction last show.
You know what?
Maybe we'll pull up.
I'm going to pull this up.
Erica Kirk.
Podcast.
Here we go.
So, all right, this is so blessed to have more work than we even could ever dream of.
I mean, it's beautiful and turning point action, full seem ahead.
So powerful.
So blessed to have.
Okay, so, yeah.
Next, we're going to.
Now, we watched, if you go like two or three streams ago, we reacted to Erica's whole speech.
And again, I said what I noticed was that she kind of used, it barely talked about Charlie.
But I'll hear these women talk about Tupac.
And I'll think, how does the rapper criminal that died at a shootout get more respect, a more respectful, I guess more respectful dialogue around his death and remembrance than the Christian conservative family guy.
It's like as women, we can't be mad when these guys start treating us like shit because we reward terrible behaviors.
We really do.
A lot of people, you know, talk about my relationship with Pac and trying to figure that out, you know.
And that was a huge loss in my life.
That looks like a sad woman.
That, I mean, she's tearing up.
Yeah.
And this is like 20 years later.
I mean, that's, again, when women marry or, I guess, lose men that we perceive to be alpha, It just tends to be a completely different reaction because he was one of those people that I expected to be here.
And my upset is more anger.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I feel that he left me.
And I know that's not true.
And it's a very selfish way to think about it, but I really did believe that he was going to be here for the long run.
Right.
She is crazy, to be fair, but here we got another one.
I remember you telling me a while back that you had a Tupac story that you always wanted to share.
And you had two interactions with him, right?
Tell me about that.
i met i was in two box company twice um um do you see the like genuine choking up these women These women weren't even with him.
They had no kids with him.
But they're all getting choked up talking about him.
And I mean, we were in the same places, but not running in the same circles.
So, I mean, I'd be at the same events, be at the same place, but we, I mean, we took a flight together once.
And it was weird because I was in first class and he was in coach.
And when I sat down and I saw him, I was like, oh, I'm going to talk to Pac all the way to Atlanta.
And when he kept walking, I was like, who the fuck put Pac in economy?
I could have talked to him.
Now, I hear what you guys are saying.
This stuff's performative.
Okay.
Probably to some extent.
But these interviews feel more genuine than the speech Erica Kurt gave.
All I'm showing is the compare and contrast.
There seems to be more emotion there.
I fly first class all the time.
I wouldn't be that pretentious.
But this one particular time, and I thought I had looked up, got first class, and Tupac.
So the two interactions I had with him, he was completely different on both interactions and the extreme.
Like the first time I met him, I didn't know what was happening to me.
I was so charmed.
I was entranced.
I was inspelled.
I was.
And if he had had a wife and we were in the right moment, I'd have been like, well, we grown.
I hope your wife feels like me and it's not a deal breaker.
I'm not having sex with married men intentionally, but she's like wishing she banged him 50 years later.
I want you guys to see this because when women are very in love with men, I mean, this is kind of how they got another one on poetic justice.
Some insight on what it was like, you know, working with Tupac on poetic justice.
Pac was crazy, and I adored him.
He was one way, I think, the way people saw him.
And not to say that.
So, again, the stories focus on who he was as a person.
Not what he did, but who he was that that wasn't him, but he was also had another Sunday where he was fun and silly.
I think he's really special, or he was very special, incredibly tough.
He's just so much talent and so brilliant here.
Do you see all of the attention in that story was on him, not me, him.
And when you compare and contrast, I mean, it's just, here we go.
I just don't get any emotion from this.
My husband, Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life.
That young man.
That young man.
On the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.
That man.
That young man.
I forgive him.
Like, if I'm being honest here, I just don't.
There's no tears.
i mean i'm looking and the whole eulogy i didn't hear anything about charlie I forgive him.
We had a great marriage.
Who was he?
Who did the cameras not see?
You know, not what did he do for you.
I hate being an asshole.
Maybe I kind of like it.
I do this job, but, you know, I'm just being honest when I think this is kind of weird.
So again, the people that don't understand the criticism of this, they don't really understand female nature, which is that women want attention.
We don't always love the men we marry.
And oftentimes it's very transactional.
And, you know, female nature envies men.
So her going into a male role indicates that maybe she was jealous of him on some level.
And we really seize every opportunity to take power and use it to get as much attention as possible.
So what would be the best practice?
Oh, wait, hold on.
Everybody is cashing in on this tragedy.
Women are going to use it to signal virtue.
Do not criticize her.
You don't know what grieving is.
It's going to be their go-to's.
Now, the best practices, I would recommend really what Jackie Kennedy did.
Now, we're going to watch her funeral.
This just seemed a lot more respectful.
We watched JFK's assassination funeral.
What do you think my odds of getting copyrighted on this music are?
Low?
All right.
At last, in Washington, a nobler drummer takes command.
Led by the slim dark figure of Jacqueline Kennedy, there now begin those measured steps by which the nation bears its fallen presidents into history.
You see, this is.
I would have recommended a non-attention-seeking attire.
You know, I mean, I don't even remember what Erica was wearing because her makeup was so heavy.
You know, it was like caked on.
That's all I saw.
This is not attention-seeking at all.
it's like a black if anything there's a veil over her face pearl but she had she had writers writing her speech uh Okay, but that was still her choice to do it, right?
I mean, at some point, it can't be the writer's fault.
I mean, if she chose to go with writers, she still read it.
Do you see the difference?
is just such a different sentiment on pennsylvania avenue the drums go by 100 beats a minute
behind them the caisson goes to the capital where john kennedy received power three years ago wait for traditional military honors to be accorded the dead president before he is taken into the rotunda to lion state
So I would just say overall, I think the audio-I don't know, it's an old video.
Yeah, I mean, what?
Oh, they, yeah.
Regardless, I mean, you guys get the idea.
is a completely different sentiment here you know again that's different than like streaming the body which is what Erica did
It's just few will forget Jacqueline Kennedy this day.
Transfigured by sorrow, she stands erect before the world's gaze and makes of her public ordeal an enduring testament of proud devotion.
Now, through all the chill hours until the rotunda doors must close tomorrow, the unnamed mourners come, for there has been a death from the family.
Yeah, just thank you for joining the membership.
So, in the aftermath, Jackie Kennedy's initial mourning was marked by stoic public composure contrasted with private devastation.
After JFK's assassination in Dallas, Jackie remained in her blood-stained pink Chanel suit, refusing to change, saying, Let them see what they have done.
She accompanied his body on Air Force One, standing beside Lyndon B. Johnson during his swearing-in in a public act of duty amid personal trauma.
From November 22nd to 25th, she meticulously planned JFK's funeral, drawing inspection from Abraham Lincoln's 1865 funeral to ensure a dignified historic farewell.
She chose the Kayson Eternal Flame at the Arlington National Cemetery and other elements, channeling grief into legacy building.
She walked in the funeral procession on procession on November 25th, holding her children's hands, projecting strength despite private anguish.
Private grief in private, Jackie was shattered.
Manchester notes she suffered nightmares, replaying the assassination and struggling with suicidal thoughts, confiding to friends like Theodore White that she felt bitter about losing JFK.
She chain-smoked and drank heavy in those days, leaning on family for support.
Jackie's mourning evolved into a balance of public restraint and private struggle.
She had limited public appearances.
She made a few public appearances, such as honoring Secret Service agent Clint Hill in late 1963 and a Democratic National Committee event in August of 1964.
These were emotionally taxing, and she withdrew after media leaks about her Warren Commission testimony, citing emotional strain.
Her focus was protecting her children, Caroline and John Jr., from publicity.
Private struggles.
Jackie's grief was profound.
She told historian William Manchester she felt robbed of her life with JFK and struggled with faith, questioning God why God allowed the tragedy.
She sought solace in private conversations with priests, friends revealing depression and guilt over not saving JFK.
She moved to Georgetown in December of 1963, seeking normalcy but was hounded by the media.
Legacy preservation.
Jackie shaped JFK's legacy by granting a 1963 interview to Theodore White, coining the Camulet myth to romanticize his presidency.
This was a mourning act, ensuring JFK's memory endured as heroic, not tragic.
She also participated in a sealed oral history, reflecting on her life together.
Over the years, Jackie's mourning became more private with occasional public nods to JFK's memory.
She did remarry, but it was a private.
After marrying Aristotle Onasis, oh, this was actually, she did marry her sister's ex.
That was very spicy.
She did.
Women are women.
Do you know what I mean?
She withdrew.
Jackie largely withdrew from public life, focusing on her children and privacy.
Her 1971 private White House visit for JFK's portrait unveiling was a rare acknowledgement of her past.
She avoided discussions of JFK, declining interviews about their White House years.
So, I mean, it says until her death in 1994, Jackie maintained a private mourning style, focusing on her children's well-being.
Her companion noted she carried JFK's memory privately, avoiding public displays of grief.
Because again, Jackie's point was she did not want to make it about her.
And she cared about the kids.
Now, I'm not saying that.
Maybe Erica has different intentions, but her actions are just very strange to me.
Now, we're next going to talk about why this happens.
This is not to ascribe morality to it, but explain why one widow seems sad and another seems fine.
An alpha widow is a woman who's been imprinted by a high-value man.
Think a guy with dominance, charisma, emotional unpredictability, and raw sexual pull.
The guy, the alpha in her past, that's a benchmark that lingers like a ghost in her psyche.
He's the one that got away, whether that be through a breakup, death, or just a fading memory.
Her husband, the guy she ended up with, often doesn't measure up to that peak experience.
So when he dies, her emotions are a mixed bag, not just with grief, but a weird cocktail of relief, detachment, or even indifference.
Even if the marriage was a slow bleed, losing a husband means losing stability, financial, social, or just the rhythm of daily life.
It seems she seems to be mourning the role he played, not necessarily the man himself.
If he was the provider type, steady, reliable, but lacking that spark, she might cry for the security, the shared history, or the kids' sake.
Society got her on a leash to perform the grieving widow act, and she might lean into it consciously or not.
Plus, there's guilt.
She knows she's supposed to be devastated.
So she might fake it to save face or dodge judgment.
So this is about widows in general, but I think it could potentially apply to this.
If her husband wasn't that guy, the one who lit her up like the alpha did, she's been living with a quiet resentment maybe for years.
Women's instinct to speak, to seek the best possible mate.
Her heart still tethered to the memory of a man who owned the room, who made her feel alive in a way her husband never could.
When the husband died, it's not just good riddance, though it can be if the marriage was toxic.
It's more like nothing, emotional flatline.
She's not sad because she's already checked out emotionally a long time ago, chasing the shadow of that alpha.
His death might even feel like a freedom, a chance to pursue that spark again, even if she's not consciously plotting it.
Women's hypergamous wiring makes them compare men to their highest value experience.
An alpha widow's husband was likely a compromise, maybe a great provider or a good guy, but not the guy who made her pulse race.
Over time, that gap festers.
She might have stayed for the duty, the kids, or the social optic, but her emotional investment was low.
Death just cuts the last thread.
There are women who mourn publicly but privately feel unshackled, even if they're ashamed to admit it.
It's not cold-blooded.
It's human nature clashing with modern expectations.
An alpha widow isn't just a one-dimensional ice queen.
She might go between sadness and release, leaf, torn by the guilt of not feeling enough.
If the alpha who shared her is dead, she might project that unresolved longing onto her husband's memory, complicating her grief.
Or if the alpha is still out there, she might fantasize about reconnecting, making her husband's death kind of a strange opportunity.
Women don't owe anybody eternal devotion, especially if the marriage was a pragmatic deal, not a passionate one.
Men need to understand this to avoid becoming the beta husband who gets outshined.
Maintain your frame, your confidence, your edge, and your ability to keep her on her toes.
If you're dealing with an alpha widow, don't try to out-alpha her past.
It's a losing game.
Instead, build your own value, physical, emotional, social, and let her see you as the new benchmark.
So I just thought that was an interesting article that kind of talks about why the widows mourn in different ways.
But, you know, I really want to put my final two cents on everything.
It's just, I think there are respectful ways to do things.
And the way that Turning Point has handled this has just put a really sore taste in my mouth, if I'm being honest.
And yeah, I think that's all I got for you guys tonight.
I think that's all I got.
Oh, and the other issue is, again, because a woman, you really got to assume Erica is going to have some dirt that's going to start to come out.
I think she was in the center of a music video.
You know, she was on a public dating show.
And not that I necessarily think she was, you know, the CEO of Hoeing.
There's many women, I'm sure, that did worse damage.
But the issue with her going into the spotlight is it's really going to bring out a lot of stuff.
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