Andrew Wilson and Piers Morgan clash with Charlize Theron and Pearl Davis over modern gender roles, with Theron dismissing men’s necessity in parenting while boasting about casual sex with younger partners like a 26-year-old. Pearl Davis argues marriage exploits men—74% of divorces initiated by women—while framing abortion debates as trivialized, comparing them to dental visits. Wilson counters that single-mother households often lead to worse child outcomes, favoring 50-50 custody over maternal gatekeeping. The panel exposes double standards: Theron’s age-gap relationships go uncriticized, unlike men like DiCaprio, and abortion discussions risk undermining seriousness despite political divides. Ultimately, the debate reveals fractured views on empowerment, autonomy, and systemic consequences of gender dynamics. [Automatically generated summary]
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
I mean, this headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
I need men!
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad Con versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
It's Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of the society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your edge, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power, privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 200K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm overage.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
No, I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
If you go into population decline and our economy goes into decline, civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
I first want to say thank you to all of you for watching.
I don't know what I have done to deserve the gift of your time and attention, but thank you so much for stopping to watch here today.
So today we're talking about Andrew Wilson doing another episode of Pierce Morgan.
So he actually was put on a panel and we're going to react to that together.
So sit back, relax, crack a beer, and enjoy the show.
Oh my gosh, someone's screaming here.
I need to go fix that.
We're going to make this full screen, okay?
One second, hold on.
That I can take things that are happening socially, point to the worst of them, even if I don't agree with them, to use that as an example of why it's bad.
Why thing bad?
These lips talk out of both sides of their mouth.
Aren't you just basically admitting that you're a Hollywood prostitute at that point?
Well, gee, who could have predicted this?
Who could have predicted that women who are in positions of power may act overtly emotional just based on, well, even the hormones in their body.
You're like a little petulant.
She's a little bit more.
Yes or no?
The latest episode of Call Her Daddy features a lengthy interview with Oscar-winning actress Charlize Theron entitled I Don't Need a Man.
And in it, Miss Theron explains how she reacts to people criticizing her for being a single mom.
I like want to just look at them and just be like, do you know how fucking great it is to live exactly how I want to live, to experience motherhood exactly how I wanted to experience it?
And I know the next thing they say is like, well, that's not fair on your kids.
Can I tell you something?
That will be their story to tell.
I can't tell you.
I can only tell you that this is the best way that I know how to be a mother to them.
And maybe they'll grow up and tell their story.
And I will respect that.
Well, she'll still want an audience to know how liberating it is for her children not to have a father.
I love that I don't have to run every fucking thing by a guy.
And what are women communicating?
We don't like men that much.
This is the same girl that was bubbly and happy in her 20s.
Women don't like men as much as we thought.
I, I don't, I love that I don't, well, oh my God, Kobe.
I like, I fucking love that I don't have to do any of that stuff.
And my children, you know, we joke, listen, I think you can tell, like, this is how I raise my kids.
Like, right?
We don't hide this shit.
But don't worry.
While Charlize doesn't think husband or father is important in life, she hasn't given up on men altogether.
I found this freedom in my 40s where I'm like, oh my God.
So I just want to say this in perspective.
I've probably had three one-night stands in my entire life.
Okay.
But I did just recently fuck a 26-year-old and it was really fucking amazing.
Fuck yes.
Yes.
And I've never done that.
And I was like, oh, this is great.
Okay.
Let me just say that 26-year-old is the luckiest fucking man walking on this goddamn planet.
He's walking different today, knowing.
Oh my god.
He for sure is not, but thank you.
He is.
Yeah.
So what women do when they're younger, we have to put a higher price on sex because reputation is important to get the kid, right?
So you can't just go around banging everything.
And an interesting thing happens to women in their late 30s.
They realize their reputation doesn't matter anymore because usually they have the kid.
So then they go bang the guys they want and they lower the price of sex.
And that's what's happening there.
As far as living life on our own terms, I actually see no problem with miserable women living by themselves as long as they can pay for it.
And if there is a father in the picture, as long as he gets 50-50 custody, I actually think it's way better for kids to grow up if there's 50-50 custody with a dad who's not being driven insane by a crazy woman.
I really do.
It's much worse, you know, because the way I see it is men, they just tend to be good people.
We tend to be bad people, not all, not all.
So, but the thing is, men will do bad things in the name of their wives or a crazy woman in their ear.
And so if they can just live peacefully, 50-50 custody without the crazy woman in their ear, and at least the kids, you know, they could see the dad's not a bad guy in person without the mom glaring at them and doing some crazy stuff.
I don't have a problem with crazy women wanting to live out their crazy.
I really don't.
I don't, you know, I missed the beginning a little bit.
So because I was getting the door, I just heard something out there.
So I don't know if it's an IVF situation or she just divorced.
Can somebody put that in the chat?
I missed the beginning.
Well, the episode's been viewed by nearly a million people so far.
Reaction has been divided between those who celebrate Charlize as, quote, a powerful badass, epitome of a strong woman, fighting against the evil patriarch.
Because remember, she's living the dream now.
She's got the money.
Remember, women want two things: freedom and to have sex with hot guys.
Women do not care about commitment as much as we care about having sex with hot guys.
That's our hardwiring.
That's our biological imperative.
50-50 dad here, primary of another, and it's amazing.
You can show them the stark contrast.
Yeah.
And, you know, if you're a dad and you can show the kids that it's a peaceful life with the 50-50, if you don't get 50-50th year, they're kind of screwed.
But if you do get 50-50 and the kids figure out, usually around 12, 13, that the mom is insane.
Both of her daughters are adopted.
Okay, so they're adopted.
Are they adopted?
How old are the kids that she adopted?
Do you know what?
I have mixed feelings on that.
You know what?
No, I don't like that.
But I don't know.
Here's the tough thing.
I'm just going through the adoption system.
So my family, we've been on both ends of adoption.
So if you didn't know, I had a brother that was given up and I didn't find out about him until I was older.
I was like 22.
And then my family also adopted kids.
So From what I understand, if the kids are below like two, there's a really long line for them.
But when they get over a certain age, nobody really wants the kids.
Um, and because my thought is okay, now she's adopting as a crazy woman.
That's not good.
But the other choice is probably a crazy foster mom.
I just can't imagine because men are kind of logical, there's no logical reason.
Like, I just don't see men like because women we tend to adopt for attention.
We tend to.
I don't see, like, I always know a guy is cooked when his wife, when the family starts adopting kids from all around the world.
Because men, like my family, we did adopt, but we adopted, it was like people we knew in bad situations where we stepped up.
And I would say that's more of like a masculine thing, but it's the women that want like a kid from every country to show off on Instagram.
Not great.
Um, I don't know.
Like, I'm just thinking these kids' options, depending on what the ballpark was for them, it was probably terrible either way.
Um, depending on the age, Lauren, yes, it's live.
Jeremy says, I want a Chinese and a Ugandan child.
Well, I don't know why you would.
Do you know what I like?
It just doesn't logically make sense to want to go around the world and get a kid from every country other than for attention.
Yeah, human handbags.
adoption makes more sense I would say in my family's case where we just knew people but okay well let me know your thoughts guys Both of them are black American kids.
Of course, they are.
Yeah.
And others who in equally strident language view the whole episode is another example of modern feminist media denigrating the role of men at every given opportunity.
All of makes it all of which makes it a good starting point for a lively debate.
Well, joining me for this battle of the sexes, host of the Crucible podcast, Andrew Williams.
Woo!
Go, Andrew!
Woo!
Wilson, who I could imagine was visibly shuddering.
Jedediah is pretty cool, but she actually lied.
I went on her show.
She's pretty cool, but she signals purity a little bit too much for me.
I find it a little annoying, but yeah, okay.
Listen to those clips.
Jedediah Biler, who's the host of the Jediah Bilent Show, commentator and author of the Case for Canceled Culture, Ernest Owens, on the editor of the User Mag newsletter.
Taylor Lorenz, well, welcome to all of you.
And Jedediah, welcome to you, especially because you're making your uncensored debut.
We always like debutantes.
I'm always astonished.
Thank you very much, Pierce.
Always astonished when people come back for more.
But thank God they do.
And thank God Andrew Wilson does.
Andrew, your thoughts on Charlie Thron?
She doesn't need a man.
She likes banging 26-year-olds when she feels like it.
You don't need fathers in life.
You just need a strong, badass woman.
Well, you know, it's really funny.
The reason nobody cares really very much when a four-year-old attractive woman has sex with some random young man is because it's not impressive.
It's impressive when men can bang young women because most men can't bang young women, but most older women can bang young men.
So it's just not an impressive accomplishment.
Of course, these are the same women who will screech because, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio decides that he wants to change.
I think it's a great exchange, actually, because the young men, you guys need practice to find your wives.
Do you know what I mean?
You got to bang some hoes to find the wife.
And the older women, they don't care about commitment anymore.
They don't care, especially if they have money.
It's a great exchange.
They can enjoy it.
They don't have to deal with your annoying qualities.
She doesn't have to deal with your annoying qualities.
You can just keep it going.
These women that adopt kids from around the world don't treat it like they're adopting human.
It's like they're adopting pets.
Yeah, I know.
I always know a husband's cooked when they start, when they got a kid from Africa, Asia, Muslim.
It's just like, why would you, you know, there's so many kids in America you could adopt.
Why do you feel the need to go around the world?
You know?
No, I'm not, I'm not, what, what bad behavior am I promoting?
I wasn't promoting the, oh, you're saying the sex for the young.
Well, what are you, the bedroom police?
What do you like?
You know, people are going to do what they're going to do.
I got to, all I'm saying is I think it's a win-win.
Yeah.
In Jup, you know, at 25 years old, any of the broads he has hanging around, but this is not an impressive accomplishment.
All a woman needs to do to get laid is go somewhere where there's men and offer it up.
It's not the case for men.
So it's an unimpressive accomplishment on its face.
As to the rest of what she's saying, this is just normal tripe, right?
Her kids are the ones who are going to get punished.
They're always the ones who get punished.
We can look at the data for outcomes on children who are raised in single mother homes.
It's not good.
It's not good for their mental health.
It's not, and by the way, the rates of abuse from having strange men around skyrocket.
Terrible idea.
And it's exactly the wrong kind of propaganda to be pushing.
All right, Ten Lorenz.
I agree with that.
I do.
I can't imagine.
Oh my gosh.
Can you imagine the torture if you had no dad?
Oh.
Oh, I feel, oh, just tortured by your mother 24-7, the nag.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, you know, that's why I actually, I think a lot of cases, it's better for the parents to be separated in 50-50, because then at least the child can have peace 50% of the time.
At least half the time, it can be a peaceful existence.
Just a factual reality of life, that women are predominantly happier with a man by their side and children are predominantly better off in life with a present father.
I think, listen, children.
Yeah, you know, and I used to, I kind of used to say that, but I have a more nuanced opinion.
I think most women aren't happier because most women don't like men.
Point blank, period.
There are some women that do like men and their life outcomes reflect that choice.
But like even Jedediah Bila, right?
She waited until 40 to couple up with the man, 40.
So if you're waiting until 40 to do it, it's like, did you really like men that much if you're your prime years, you didn't, not even your prime years, but your sub, like your prime years, your second prime years.
Know it's just not, anyways, yeah, are better off in life when they have a loving household.
And not all of those households have fathers.
I mean, there are lesbian parents, there are different types of arrangements.
I think it's important for kids to have different figures in their life who they can look up to.
And, you know, I think it's really important to expose kids to all different types of figures, but that doesn't have to be, you know, that doesn't have to be like a man, a cisgender man that's standing around all the time.
There's plenty of terrible fathers out there, too.
So, yeah, I think it's great that not like mothers.
Not like mothers.
There are way more terrible mothers than terrible fathers.
It's not even close.
I'm pro-50-50.
I really am.
You know, I really am.
And because at least the 50-50, the whole family gets a moment of peace.
Peace at the father's house.
That the child is growing up in a loving household.
And hopefully, you know, she'll expose the child to lots of different types of children.
Yeah, but can you acknowledge that we have now been studying this phenomenon of single motherhood for years and years and years, and that the outcomes for children of single mothers tend to be terrible in comparison to the outcomes of children without them?
Can you just acknowledge that that is true?
So I think what you're talking about are setting up.
I'm asking a question.
Don't run from the question.
Yes or no?
You can.
I want you to acknowledge with a yes or no, then a qualifier.
Yes or no.
Isn't it true that outcomes for children when they're raised by single mothers tend to be worse than those with a mother and a father in the house?
Yes or no, then give me your answer.
So I'd love to respond if you stopped talking over me.
Anyway, most single mothers.
Look at his face.
So funny.
Charlie's there on with millions and millions and millions of dollars.
So when you look at studies like that, a lot of it has to do with the economic opportunities that a lot of single mothers have.
You know, women make less than men as a whole.
They're subject to more sexism and discrimination.
So it can often be more challenging for them to raise.
So the answer is yes.
No, the answer is Charlie.
It sounds like you just said that the answer is yes.
All right, guys, 144 likes, 800 of you in here.
I'm pausing.
I'm pausing.
Respectfully, hit the like.
Hit the like.
When I refresh and it says 200, I'll keep going.
But really, I think 50% is a fair.
We're 800.
I think, you know, 147, let's go 50 more likes.
50 more likes.
I'll press play.
Yep, I'm a light.
I'm a like Nazi.
Oh my gosh, I probably can't say that.
Sorry, I'm a like, I need a different word.
I need a different word.
Oof, I'm digging a hole.
I'm just going to keep.
I just got remonetized.
I'm going to keep going.
All right.
196, 234.
Thank you guys.
Thank you.
The answer, according to you just now, is yes.
No, anybody.
And then you just make excuses for it.
You're like, yes, Taylor, this is going on right now.
This is so weird.
What I, you're like the most manipulative smile when they're arguing with you.
Imagine having to live with a chick.
Andrew's talking to.
I know the nagging would never end.
And imagine, like, imagine if, imagine if Andrew was the dad and Taylor Lorenz was the mom.
Now, Andrew would never make such a stupid choice.
He picked an angel, Rachel Wilson.
What a nice woman.
But Taylor Lorenz, imagine, like, I think if these two were a couple, God forbid, there would be more peace at a 50-50 arrangement.
You were like a misser.
I don't know what that means, but thank you.
Shouting out.
Do you know what it is?
Hang on, time out.
Time out.
Let's bring in Jedediah.
Taylor, this is not rocket science.
First of all, you lost me at cis male.
You just meet a guy, just a man, right?
We don't need all these terms, these nonsensical, ridiculous terms that modern leftists have come up with.
It's just a man.
Children do better when there is a mom and there is a dad.
And the reason is that men and women are completely different.
They bring very different things to the table.
And children need the role model of a mom and a dad, not just people around.
Sure, you can have aunts, you can have uncles.
I'd really just say a dad.
I guess a mom is a bonus.
But I do think 95% of kids would be fine with no mother.
Almost better.
Oh, I know a person who had a mother that ran away for a period of time.
And this person said it was the peacefulest time ever.
So mothers don't realize their personalities are so unpleasant.
Not all, but a lot to be around that like the kids are actually better off without them, in my opinion.
You can have friends, but we're talking about the two individuals that are raising children.
And let me just ask you this question.
Wait, I'm not done yet.
You complained that Andrew interrupted you and now you just interrupted me.
I'm not done yet.
Charlize there, you're right.
She is rich.
She has a ton of Chris.
I am like miss her, but not like a word for national socialist, maybe like a band, like heat miss her.
Money?
But what example do you think she's sending to young women everywhere that this is somehow empowering?
That you should strive, by the way.
You should strive to be the single mom because you don't have to deal with a guy.
You don't have to answer to a man.
Oh, isn't that so wonderful?
And guess who will pay the price?
My kids, she even says, my kids can tell their story.
How unbelievably selfish of her to say, my children will one day get to tell a story that they had no father because I decided that I just wanted to do this myself.
Me, myself, and my money.
It's just like even when conservative women nag, it's just like nagging.
Do you know what I mean?
It just becomes a nag fest.
And that's what I got kind of tired of.
I even myself, I'm sure I've done it too.
But you just get exhausted.
It's just like we're nagging, nagging, nagging.
Yes, this woman's a selfish hoe.
What's new?
Selfish hoes have always had children.
Is that the message?
I wanted to go home 26 years.
They shouldn't be able to raise children.
You need a man.
What about women?
Taylor, no one said what she loud.
I'm not talking about.
Tell me what I find strange.
What I find strange.
I know Charlie's a bit when she was dating Sean Penn and thought she was very nice, but she was always very elegant.
If you interviewed her, her whole thing was high-end, elegant, you know, all the highest-end advertising and so on.
And then you see her there in this podcast and she's like effing and blinding, talking about banging 26-year-olds.
Very, very different, Ernest, to the Charli's throne I thought I knew.
I'm not saying it's good, bad, or whatever, but I do wonder if it was a male movie star sitting on a sofa, brazenly boasting about banging 26-year-olds.
How old is Charlene?
Charlie's 50.
If a 50-year-old male star was talking, boasting about banging 26-year-old girls.
Men do do that, but they do it in private.
They do it in private.
Right.
And he was boasting about not needing a woman in his life, not needing a mother, all these kind of things.
But in reverse, I don't think you'd be approving of this, Ernest.
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No offense, but the internet's just a little bit weird sometimes.
Yeah.
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Piers.
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I like Jedediah, Pearl grow-up.
I like Jedediah too, overall.
But this is a talk show, okay?
And I just got to be honest, I still register the nagging.
And I do like her, right?
I think she's a cool person, but the nagging, and I just, I don't believe the virtue signaling purity when you got married at like 40.
I just, for me, it's just tough to believe.
And I would tell her that, right?
She ever calls in.
Nothing against her.
She's a very nice woman, good reputation in the industry.
Like, Candace Owens kind of has a bad reputation from what I've heard.
Jedediah has a good reputation.
Everyone likes working with her.
So.
IRS.
I mean, for starters, I'm all for if it's about consent and respect.
They do it all the time.
A lot of older men do it all the time on media, on social media, in interviews.
It's not actually an uncommon thing.
I think the reason why there's a lot of actual shock and awe over Charlotte Stehron, because a lot of women actually, her age, don't feel the liberty to do that on a public-facing platform.
And so that's why we're talking about her.
We don't talk about men who do it often on here because it's so norm.
I mean, if you look at who's in politics currently right now, they were doing it their entire career before they got to the White House.
So it's not that much of a shock.
You know, there's a guy who got elected president and you screamed bloody murder about it and got elected.
And so, and he screamed bloody murder about it.
What are you talking about?
You liberals said that that was the most horrible thing.
He was a terrible role model.
How could he?
And here's Charlie staring saying this.
And you're like, she's your power boss babe, Andrew.
Come on.
See, if I talk over him, here's me to tell me to be quiet.
And you were done talking, dude.
You were done talking.
Come on, I wasn't done talking, actually.
Can I ask you?
Hit the like button, please.
Like button.
Let's get to 400 likes.
Oh, man.
You can.
You can.
Okay, thanks.
So what I was getting at is that there is a double standard.
And I think honestly, like I said before, I don't know what liberal he's talking about, but I was not a liberal that said that Trump talking about grabber by the pussy was the worst thing he ever said, because there's a lot of other things he has said that I believe is far worse and actually should cause more attention.
But that being said, I just feel like the only reason why we're talking about it is because women like Charlie Steron often don't do this on the normal.
So it feels abnormal, and that's why we're discussing it.
Okay, why do these libs?
These lips talk out of both sides of their mouth.
I mean, look at it.
She refused to acknowledge the outcomes for single moms.
The internet is weird.
Only sometimes that Andrew Wilson is a legend.
Thank you, James.
That's immediately.
Let's be clear.
Immediately.
Hang on, hang on.
Immediately.
Look, I'm sorry if you got progressive talking points.
Oh, I hate.
I have a good friend that's liberal.
And when we go back and forth, I'm always like, he does the same thing.
He's like, I'm not a liberal.
I'm a, and then they have all these specific names.
And I'm like, oh, my gosh.
If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, I call it a duck.
So the thing is, right, the lips are the lips on the panel very clearly, right?
She evades the answer, refuses to give us the answer of if outcomes for single for children, single moms are worse, refuses, gives us a bunch of qualifiers proving that they are, still refuses to do it.
He says, well, this is so commonplace for men.
Look at the sexual deviant that we have in the White House and says, but I'm not throwing a fit about that.
I'm not throwing a fit about that, though.
Yeah, they do throw a fit about it.
They're leftist, not liberal.
Like, she's very emotional.
It's an ineffective discussion.
I would like you, you know, I would just like you to actually answer the questions I ask you.
Why can't you?
I have a question for Ernest.
Ernest said there was.
Hold on a second, guys.
Ernest, you said there was a double standard.
What are you, in your view, where is the double standard?
Because I see a double standard here, but I think we see a different double standard.
So what I was saying was the double standard reaction, right?
There is a lot of reaction because of what Charlie Sarah.
Please do a sit down with Jedediah.
I get your point, but about the universal nagging, but dive into the male-female dynamic with her.
She gets it.
I like Jedediah.
I'd have her on.
Yeah, okay.
Ron said, I'm saying that I understand where that is coming from because we don't often see women like Charlie Snaron on these platforms talking about their sexuality.
But it's celebrating.
Ernest, that's not true.
But here's the difference.
Every time a man, every time, hold on a second.
Every time a man says, a guy can't even say that he prefers younger women.
He can't even say, well, you know what?
I prefer younger women because of their fertility is better, because they're in their peak attractiveness, because I want to have a bunch of kids and it gives me more time without getting completely trashed.
Let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
Hang on, hang on.
Let's be clear.
If Brad Pitt came out with an interview tomorrow on uncensored, and I hope he does.
If you're watching Brad, my show is always available to you.
But if he was and he said, Do you know what?
Just only last week, I had the most unbelievable sex with a hot 26-year-old, right?
Do you think the reaction, Ernest, would have been widespread applause for this guy, or would it have been, you dirty old man?
No, no, I'm not saying that I feel that about Charlie Saron.
I'm just saying that's the double standard, right?
Leo DiCaprio gets mocked at every award show.
They have main character syndrome.
Yeah.
Because he dates women half his age.
Now he's Charlie Saron.
Everyone's like, oh, this is amazing.
I can give you an example where that backfired.
So let me be very clear.
So let me give you a good example of this, actually.
First of all, it's if it's a pattern, right?
Charlize Theron is not doing this on the regular.
That's why this is a big news story.
She's been mostly in long-term relationships.
She does not have a habit of doing this.
Leonardo Daru, Leonardo Diaprio's entire romantic, a lot of his romantic history has been this pattern, which has become a running joke.
The first couple of years he did it, no one cared.
But it's been decades, like over like a news story.
With respect, first of all, first of all, both of those things have been covered in the news.
But the reason, what Pierce is getting at, I think, I don't want to put words in his mouth, this is being celebrated.
Do you understand the difference?
Modern feminism has made it so that we now celebrate that Charlize Theron.
And by the way, I don't like saying feminism as a cop out.
Women celebrate because women want to, not because of feminism.
Hey, I don't give a lick, honestly.
It's consensual.
I don't care if she sleeps with a 26-year-old.
And by the way, there are a lot of 26-year-old men who will be absolutely thrilled that she's on the Cougar Market.
That's correct.
I mean, I don't care either.
We can agree there.
But I'm smart enough to acknowledge that she is being celebrated for that action.
Whereas a Leonardo DiCaprio or the average guy for that matter, just saying, hey, I prefer a 22-year-old to a 32-year-old will get destroyed in every way.
You know what?
I actually have no problem with what she said about a 26-year-old.
That's entirely down to her.
She's a single woman.
She can have sex with whoever she likes.
I do, though, have a problem with, and Andrew was, I think, right about this.
In a way, what she's saying is all your quaint ideas about you need a bloke around, you need a father, you need a husband, that's all bullshit.
Look at me.
I'm proof it's all great.
I don't believe.
Thanks, Zeke.
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Believe women when they say that.
I don't believe men when they say the same thing.
You know, I just think that actually the ideal is that you have a man and woman around kids and they bring them up together.
And if that isn't possible and it doesn't work out, okay, you make it work.
But to actually try and pretend this is actually utopia and this is the best possible thing for your kids, I don't think that's true.
And I say that as a divorcee myself.
I don't think this is ever actually the ideal, but you make it work as best you can.
I want to switch gears to something which really did annoy me.
Lily Allen, the pop star, former pop star.
Let's be accurate.
Talking about abortion.
Abortions.
I've had a few, but then again, I can't remember exactly how many.
Ew.
Ew.
Really?
Yeah.
Why didn't this come up in last week's episode when we were just talking about abortions?
Because I was just letting you run with it.
Reveal everything.
I can't remember.
Yeah.
I think maybe like I want to say five, four or five.
Yeah, I've had four or five.
How is it?
Usually, though, women that have abortions, it's men.
It's one of two things.
It's betas they don't want to reproduce with, or alphas they had sex with quickly, but have no long-term potential.
So like, you know, the bouncer, the bartender, you guys know the type.
What about five, too?
Lily, I've never, I'm so happy I can say that.
And you can say it, and no one came to shoot us down.
No judgment.
No judgment.
We've had about the same amount of abortions.
You know what, Taylor?
I'm not.
Oh, you guys are disgusting.
I'm going to judge them in the way they think I'm going to judge them.
I'm not going to judge them for having abortions.
I believe in a woman's right to choose what she does with her body.
I am.
It's a very, I know.
And we'll come to Andrew's position on that.
I think we know what it is.
And I would, if I was on this panel, I don't know why.
They don't invite me anymore.
They don't invite me.
I kind of fell off.
So I'm not, you know, as a content creator, you get the ups and downs.
But Jedediah, what I would have said if I was in that, like, because, you know, that's kind of the right-wing e-girl spot.
I would have said, I give up.
You guys win.
You guys win.
You can just abort.
I don't care anymore.
I don't.
Get your view.
But the point is, Taylor, I'm not against abortion.
I am against women that talk about it so glibly.
I am against two women sitting there just brazenly talking in a very kind of I'm against it altogether, but I don't care anymore for my mental health.
I just know we cannot nag women into stopping killing their kids.
It's an impossible cause.
You ladies win.
I don't really believe that Pierce Morgan is pro-choice.
I think he's also given up because he's a smart guy and he knows what causes he can win.
The boastful way we've had 10 abortions between us and Lily Allen can't even remember how many abortions she's had.
I don't like that aspect.
Although I think they messaged me on Twitter and right now I'm locked out of my Twitter account.
If anyone is a contact at Twitter, please tell them to give me my Twitter account back.
For some reason, I could still stream on Twitter.
I don't know why, but these I fell for a hacking scam and now they have my account.
What was going on there?
I think it's distasteful.
I think it trivializes abortion.
Abortion, you know, whether you agree with it or not, you should always treat it, I think, as a serious thing, which should be taken seriously and dealt with seriously.
That, to me, was trivializing it.
Your thoughts?
Yeah, I think that, you know, I hear you, Pierce, and I take your point.
I think that most women have a struggle with access to abortion, especially now here in America.
And I think that normalizing the idea of having abortion is overwhelmingly a good thing.
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Normalize the idea of having five abortions with two women there, basically.
They don't invite you because you terrify them.
You show no fear and you don't give consideration to their feelings.
I don't think so.
I think it's like a numbers game.
I do think that song I did a while ago kind of, and if you guys know about it, if you don't, I mean, I was going to be a regular actually on there until I did that.
That was not the smartest move, but it was pretty funny.
Pretty funny.
I thought so anyway.
Making out, oh, thank God we can talk about this now.
Like, this is normal.
One of the biggest red pillars I know came from a guy whose fiancé aborted his child.
Disgusting behavior.
It is disgusting.
But I just can't, you can't win.
Not normal.
That's five abortions.
It should be normal to have easy access to abortion.
It should be.
I don't see that, but that's a different, that's a political matter.
That's a social matter for the women.
But it's the way you talk about it.
I know this has nothing to do with Andrew's appearance on Pierce Morgan that you're reviewing right now, but I'd like to collaborate with David Cooley.
No Fugas, big fan.
Let me Google him.
about it i think is actually for example in america where it's a really hot potato issue i could imagine everyone I'll come to Andrew for what I think will be his response.
I could imagine it.
He'll be very angry because he doesn't agree with abortion to start with, to then see women, high-profile women like this, famous women, just talking about it in such a glib manner.
Because they want to restrict women's rights and they want to restrict women's access to healthcare.
This is essential.
Abortion is essential healthcare.
That's what you're saying, but it is healthcare.
Yes.
And it's really important.
It's not ridiculous.
It saves women's lives in many cases to have an abortion.
And it's really hard for women to get access.
And they feel, I would literally sit there and be like, guys, they win.
They win.
They win.
You can't fight this.
It's really easy.
And that's what I would say.
I would be on the show and I would say, it's really easy to make money arguing about this.
We all make a lot of money from doing this.
We'll post the clips, look like the hero, whatever.
But we just got to be honest here.
Women win.
They have so much political power that they're going to kill their kids forever.
You guys win.
David, oh, I've seen this stuff before.
Yeah.
If we thought of a topic that's like relevant, maybe we could have them on a lot of shame around it because of the social stigma.
Taylor, does it sound to you like those women feel a lot of shame around abortion?
Is that what it sounds like?
The point is, is that many women are taught, and it sounds like you guys on this very panel want women to feel shame about it.
And in fact, they should not have it.
Should you be proud of it is the point.
I mean, let me bring Andrew in here.
I mean, Andrew, I know your position on abortion, but notwithstanding that, it doesn't really concern me really whether people are for or against it.
It's the way they're talking about it.
I find.
So let's leave the argument about whether they understand.
Yeah, but it's totally self-centered and selfish.
And look, she says, I'm not a lib.
Women need to have more abortions.
The thing is, so, all right, I have more access to abortions.
Lies through her teeth.
It's a healthcare procedure.
Most women's lives, when they have abortions, has nothing to do with the life of them at all, their physical health at all.
Total lies from the left.
On top of that, let's just point out that what they're really doing there is they're sitting there going, I just like, how do they murder five of my kids?
And the other one's like, yeah, me too.
Isn't that great, sweetheart?
The other one's like, yeah, totally.
That's so awesome that we could just kill our children.
Isn't that great?
And so normal people, we normal people.
So anyway, we normal people hear this, you know, like regular Joes.
And of course, we're disgusted by it.
The fact of the matter is, is it just shows a complete and total lack of caring for humanity, lack of caring for children.
This is supposed to be the more empathetic sex.
And yet, when they have power over vulnerable life, they kill it.
Really?
You're going to get it.
No, and that's so true.
Look, this idea that women are nurturing, I'm so tired of arguing this point because it's simply not true.
It's just, there's no evidence that suggests that women are good at raising kids or nurturing.
A woman's intuition.
If women's intuition is true, then women intuitively kill their children.
And I'm just being honest here.
Convince me that's the more empathetic.
I just have one little.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think for me, it's just two things, right?
I think that we can, some people will feel like the way in which she went about discussing it was tasteless.
I think for people who are listening to it, I did.
I think that there's a better, in my personal taste, right?
I think there could have been a better way she could have said it, but that's just my personal preference.
And I think that's just how she is with a lot of things.
Lily Allen, I don't agree with a lot of things that Lily Allen says or how she says it personally.
And I think that's the real thing here.
However, what I think is important is that everybody's getting abortions.
This whole libs, far left, far right stuff.
I really get annoyed with that because it's almost as if you're acting like only one, like everybody makes decisions based on their political ideologies.
And that's just so immature.
And there's obsession.
We can look at the reproductive stats and we know.
We know which political party is advocating for abortion and which one isn't.
We know which political party's advocating for it, which one's not.
I don't come with that.
Like I'm just saying, it's not a, for me, this is not a libs thing or whatever.
It's really just a matter of taste.
And that's what I'm saying.
How could it not be a liberal care?
I'm not completely putting my charge.
Let Jennifer speak.
Jeddah died.
How could it not be?
If liberals are the ones, I mean, just be honest, liberals are the ones that are promoting a pro-abortion culture.
It's not just liberals.
Half of conservative women have probably aborted a kid.
It's a female issue.
It's a female issue.
And the men that fight for female issues to get laid.
That's how I see it.
That's how I see it.
Truly.
But liberals are the ones that are saying this should be celebrated.
The word here, Ernest, Ernest, hold on a second.
The word here to be used is these women are celebrating abortions.
And you see young women all over TikTok, by the way, and all over social media who are echoing these voices now.
So an abortion is something whether you believe it should be, it was supposed to be safe, legal, and rare.
That was the idea when people were advocating back in the day.
Pro-abortion advocates were saying safe, legal, does this sound rare to you?
Oh, I have every time I have sex, I just run and get an abortion like I went to the dentist's healthcare.
This shouldn't be rare.
Access to healthcare shouldn't be rare.
Access to healthcare.
Taylor, no one's talking about access.
No one, you have access to a whole bunch.
You guys win.
That's what I would say.
If I was on this panel, they really should.
I would have effed this panel up.
I would have been like, look, you win, ladies.
What more do you want?
You get to kill your kids.
You get these jobs.
What more can we do for the women?
What more do you want?
Oh my gosh.
And you're still nagging and saying it's not enough.
I'll just kill myself.
Chris says, hi, Pearl.
Of things in society, that doesn't mean you utilize them.
These are women that are going to have to stop guns, right?
When you stigmatize abortion, it leads to less abortion access.
When you stigmatize farmer, it leads to less murder.
Yeah, but actually, Taylor, Taylor, that Taylor, that argument works the other way because if you trivialize it, it doesn't matter about shaming, not shaming.
Women do not care.
They will go to the end of the earth to kill their kids.
They will.
And you look like you're slightly gleeful and you're very proud of having had no.
So the abortions, it's so here's the thing.
We have all this emotion inside of us.
And the emotion gets, and the emotion gets triggered from the highs and the lows of just like life.
And the reason we get all excited about abortion is that's the most exciting thing that happened to us that year, that month, whatever.
I'm not saying it's good, right?
It's pretty disgusting, but like, that's why we love serial killer documentaries.
Maybe it just reminds us of killing kids because we love doing that.
I majored in marine biology from Eric.
We raised sea urchins and starfish.
As they developed, we would say, wow, look at my sea urchins.
Only human fetuses are considered to be balls of cells.
Horrific.
It's so horrific.
Look, my family, we've been on both sides of adoption.
I can, I know there are other choices that you can make, but I don't care.
I just, I do not care because I can't care.
Caring about that issue would make me go crazy.
It would go insane because it's not going to change.
And the same way that women are going to keep aborting like their kids, you know, even if they restrict it, like they'll just go to the ends of the earth.
They'll roll down staircases.
They'll get plan B. We're done.
Cooked.
Five abortions.
Both of them appeared to come over.
And that's just the way we can judge them from that clip.
They said, don't be judgmental.
Well, actually, you can be when people are apparently trivializing it the way they were.
I think my point is that the reason Andrew is so exercised is not just because he's anti-abortion, but here's exactly what he's been saying for a long time, which is a lot of women treat it like it's just another thing.
Well, actually, it's more serious.
And I agree with that.
Even though I support women's rights to have an abortion, no one should be like proud or gleeful or joyful or celebratory about it.
It should be serious.
Stigmatizing.
Can you understand how that stigmatizing sort of framework would be used to restrict access to abortion?
Say, well, you're not pious enough.
You haven't repented enough.
You're not sorry enough.
So you don't deserve access.
That is what is used to strip women's tailor.
It should be stigmatizing.
It should be stigmatizing for women to talk about abortion like this.
This is sick.
This is your empowered women now out there saying, oh, I don't know.
I had four abortions, five abortions, six abortions, like you went for a root canal.
I mean, listen, this is not the face of an empowered woman.
This is aesthetic.
It's sad.
And I would argue that this is the face of an empowered woman because she has the power to do it.
She has the power to kill her kid, brag about it on a podcast and still have normal social standing.
I mean, yeah, they'll argue, you know, half of society might be disgusted, but still she can live a relatively normal life and not be shamed, you know?
So I have to say, I have to say, I would say they are empowered because they have a ton of power and they're flaunting it in front of our face.
Abortion is healthcare.
Abdul, get the rocks.
Well, Uncle Tiger, that's a nice thought, but we live in 2025 and yeah, they're empowered to be a clown.
I mean, it's not that I like it, but I got to be honest about what's going on.
Women have a ton of power and they always will.
They always will.
The product, sorry to say, this is the product of modern feminism and what it has done to women.
That now they weaponize their ability to kill.
And I wish that I would have added so much on this panel.
I don't like the way that we keep blaming things on feminism.
It's, you know, I know I've sometimes I'm sure I've said stuff like that before.
You clip me old stuff.
I've just evolved in my thinking.
It's what women want to do.
It's nobody's brainwashing us.
No one's telling us.
We're just choosing to kill kids because we want to.
Yep.
Yeah.
Until men, you know, and we could sell the dream of men taking back power.
But guys, there's too many men that are getting paid by women.
We make 80% of consumer buying decisions.
That means all the industries, 80% are funded by us.
Amazon, funded by us.
The media, funded by us.
The cops, funded by us.
The politicians voted for by us.
We have so much power.
I have a tough time believing that that's going to change anytime soon.
Because that's my view.
So I'm going to say they weaponize their ability to kill and they expect society to put a big stamp of approval on it.
And people like you do.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not condoning it.
I'm not doing it.
I'm calling it out.
And if they feel stigmatized by their behavior, then so be it.
Maybe that has more to do with.
Yeah.
And again, I would go in and I would say, look, that sounds nice, Jedediah, but it does nothing.
And what I find on these panels is we're just looking to argue.
And I get it.
The arguing, it makes a lot of money.
It really does.
I know what everyone makes on their YouTube.
And I do love, you know, I mean, I'll do it for money.
I don't mind.
But we got to be honest here when we say that we got to, you know, talking about this is a waste of time.
Women won.
They are empowered and they're going to abort forever.
You guys win.
Is there anything else we could do to make your lives more comfortable?
What more do you have to complain about?
Women don't want to feel shame for any of their decisions.
Don't judge me, but we need to judge, and it's okay to judge and be critical.
They may not like it, but they need to hear it.
Well, they never have to hear it because why do they have to hear it?
You can't talk like that at work, you can't talk like this in normal day-to-day life.
I mean, guys, even me, I have a tough time in day-to-day life.
Women tell me things that are so full of shit, and you're just thinking, but there's just such repercussions, and sometimes you're just like, I don't feel like dealing with the crash out today.
If you wanted the math, 1 million abortions happen on the regular, about 3 to 0.3% are aborted to save the life of a mom, which is about 30,000 or 3,000 roughly.
Behavior, their crappy behavior, their sick, twisted behavior than it does by what I'm saying about it.
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Let's be real honest here.
Even if you did not, if you personally do not support abortion, you really think that it's a murder, there would be no way, quite frankly, that you want anyone to discuss it.
So I think it's intellectually dishonest to act as though we're going to use this extreme of Lily Allen, which I do agree, right?
I personally think that the way that Lily Allen discussed it was not the best way.
But to be honest, for those who do not support abortion, which I do support a woman's right to choose, there would have never been a way for you to approve it.
So you're using the most extreme example as a way to now double down and justify every other belief that you have on this.
That's the dumbest thing.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
You talk about murder openly all the time.
What are you talking about?
So why are we talking about Lily Allen?
Yeah, we talk about things we don't support all the time.
What are you talking about?
So here's what Chris Morgan and I are understanding.
So let's make this make common sense.
Pierce and I both, I assume, support a woman's right to choose.
I don't know, but I think we do.
We both do not agree about the taste of how Lily Allen did it.
However, I think for some of you who are on this, on this episode, you're not going to ever agree with this.
So stop acting like Lily Allen is an example of all women who discuss having abortions because it's not true.
You just want to use it as an example to dismiss the case of abortions, period.
And so that's so good.
Well, I see.
I see.
Hang on.
Let me respond.
Let me respond.
I see.
What a genius.
What a genius argument.
Yes, Andrew, you think that all murder and murderers are bad.
So you're going to point at serious killers and say, see how bad that is?
Great argument, genius.
No, we don't.
But it doesn't matter if I view people that have women that have abortions as murderers, but it doesn't matter if I view them that way.
It doesn't matter if Andrew views them that way because society allows it and society does not view them that way.
And they don't get thrown in jail.
So therefore, they do not have the consequences of a murderer.
And you could say it's wrong, but unless you have political power, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
What a wonderful audience.
What a wonderful argument.
What's the response to this argument?
Clearly, it's pretty good because you have zero.
That was the argument.
Do you understand?
Do you understand that I can take things that are happening socially, point to the worst of them, even if I don't agree with them, to use that as an example of why it's bad?
Why think bad?
Think bad because look, you can see that why think bad.
You're not right now.
You're crashing here.
This is an extreme example.
Whether you like abortion, whether you sub whether you support abortion or not, we're not making up this extreme example.
This extreme example exists, and we're commenting on it because there were women all over the country, by the way, that will say things like, My body, my choice, who cares?
Oh, yeah, and you know what?
It's escalating down to other things like plan B. People pop in plan B's like candy now.
This time is not being taken seriously.
And the bottom line is: whether you support abortion or not, this is a serious matter.
And the fact that we have women out there talking about it like a trip to the dentist, that is a problem that we need to acknowledge.
I have to say, I agree with that.
I don't think that the way they spoke about it did them any credit at all.
And I think it actually, if I was somebody who was against abortion, that would have really enraged me to see people who have access to free and fair abortions because they're in a country where it's fine.
But they talk about it in such a glib manner.
I don't like it.
Let's just change gears to something else, which is just something a bit odd.
So, okay, we'll do the second part tomorrow on the show.
Yeah, the second half we'll do tomorrow, at least in the beginning, depending on what we write up.
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So if you want to know how to be a YouTuber, you want to know what topics to get, how to pick to what to react to, how to edit, how to design thumbnails, I'm going to do a little overview and you guys can directly ask me.
So if you're on the Audacity Network app already, we are in the app stores.
Simply log on to the app and there'll be a Zoom link in the chat.
You can join.
If you are on the, if you're not on it yet, you do have to apply because the people that join this are going to get a lot of access to me.
I got to make sure you're normal.
So you have to go to pearlinvite.com and you book a call.
I believe that Shiv can even take a call right now.
So make sure you click the link, sign up for a sales call, and then you can, we're going to do this weekly where you can literally ask us questions directly.
I'll even tell you guys personally about some of the problems we're having, what we want to accomplish.
And yeah, women would usher in human extinction in favor of their own happiness.
The West is cooked.
It's cooked.
Thanks so much for watching, guys.
Go to pearlinvite.com and I will see you on the Audacity Network app or the website.
Go there.
We're going to keep the live going and put the link in that chat.