Pearl Davis and callers debate 2025’s marriage paradox: 74% of divorces initiated by women, yet men face systemic pressures—$200K legal battles, "deaths of despair," and societal scapegoating—while only 5% of brides remain virgins. Critics like Doug MP and Carlos dismiss waiting until marriage as impractical, citing deception (e.g., a woman who claimed virginity at 16 but lost it earlier) or cultural mismatches (India’s shift away from tradition due to feminism). Callers like Sarah advocate sheltered dating environments, while Brad’s 36-year divorce reveals even "purity" marriages fail. Ultimately, the episode questions whether abstinence guarantees fulfillment or if modern dating’s chaos renders traditional advice obsolete. [Automatically generated summary]
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
I need men!
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad COD versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You gotta get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man for a moment.
500K, 500, 300K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We're going to population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis, failing young men.
What is going on, people?
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Okay.
So today we're talking about waiting till marriage.
According to statistics, only 5% of women are virgins on their wedding nights.
And by the way, guys, of those 5%, they don't say what percent of the virgins are morbidly obese.
All right.
If you're a virgin, wait, Doug MPA, do we have the your virginity doesn't count video on the website?
If we do, can you text me it?
Because that was a great video I made.
You know, because really your virginity doesn't count if you're ugly or fat because you're really not bringing the value.
You know, purity only counts if you're hot.
You know, like, are you guys really, is this like if a woman's 60 and a virgin, do you care?
No.
You want the ran-through 20-year-old, all right?
So that's down from 21% in the 1970s.
So even in the 70s, this was not the majority.
Tradcons are still trying to push the concept of waiting until you are married to have sex, but in 2025, that's unrealistic.
And I would go as so far as to say it's dumb.
It might be idealistic, but there's a difference between idealistic and realistic.
Men and women are having sex.
It's the undeniable reality.
As a man, if you are waiting until sex to have married, to as a man, if you are waiting to have sex until you're married, the longer you wait, the more likely it is that you are going to lose your virginity to a woman that's already been dug out by Tyrone.
Chad, say it in the chat, Glocktavius, Gavin the starving musician, Tyrone.
The more likely you're going to be weird when it comes to women, too.
That's the other issue.
You wait too long.
Now you have zero flirting skills.
Women are only messing with the charming men now or the jacked ones, unfortunately.
It's only the ones that give us the tingle.
So the longer you hold out on entering the real dating marketplace like a normal person, the more weird men and women will be.
Now, I don't say that you have to sleep with everybody, but unfortunately, and I don't say this with like a happy, a happy tone, I don't think it's working in 2025.
I do not see it.
I do not see the people waiting till marriage winning.
And this is something I always thought, to be honest.
I thought the key was just people should have waited till they're married.
But the challenge I got to, I'm going to riff a little bit.
The challenge I got to was that if waiting till marriage produced these happy marriages in the past, why were women so willing to opt out the first chance they could?
And it goes back to women biologically do not want to be saddled down with a beta.
And if they view the person that they're with as a beta, it doesn't matter if it was 100 years ago.
They don't want to do it.
All right, so waiting means the man is kind of cucked because basically you get to pay a higher price for something that Chad, Tyrone, and Gloctavius got for free.
The other, the reason it kind of screws women is, you know, there's, I've never seen a pastor give an honest presentation on how long a guy is going to wait is based on how hot you are, ladies.
It really is.
Men are going to wait for marriage.
Like if you're, because again, women, we like don't see average men.
We don't.
And I don't say this like that's the way it should be, right?
And you could tell a woman to date on her level, but can we just be real here?
Women aren't going to do that.
So I'm not, it's like, I'm not going to say have this miracle happen and expect it to happen.
So if women always go for Chad's, Chads are not going to wait, especially not for a mid.
They might wait for someone that's beautiful.
But, you know, if you're a mid, you know, I'd really say a gluck gluck's got to be a selling point.
The longer you wait, the weirder you're going to be.
And nothing is worse than a man or a woman who's really weird in dating.
Now, I hear the guys say, I don't mind a weird woman, but I don't actually, I'm thinking of Lolo Jones.
She was so weird.
That's who I'm thinking.
She was beautiful back in the day, but if you listen to her interviews, it's not cute.
It's not like weird in a cute way.
All right.
So if you're a woman, the longer you wait, the more it shows that you're socially awkward and that there's something wrong with you emotionally or mentally.
Now, you might be saying, Pearl, you should be pushing for women to stay virgins.
But when marriage is at 30 now, have you ever met a woman that's 30 and a virgin?
There are so many red flags about these type of women.
I'm not talking about a 20-year-old virgin, but people are not getting married at 20.
They're getting married at 30.
And if you can get married when you are young, then waiting isn't a problem.
But staying single through your 20s and not having sex, stupid idea.
And that's what we're going to talk about on today's show.
Should men and women wait to have sex until they're married?
This is going to be a call-in show.
But we're going to react to some TikToks.
And then we're going to have people call in.
I'm debating.
I've seen, there's a video of Charlie Kirk I just found of him super simping.
I kind of wanted to react to.
But I want to show the typical dynamic that we really find with these guys.
Okay, let's do the TikToks first.
Oh, I'm going to ask.
So think about these questions.
Should men and women wait to have, or I don't want to say should because you guys can do what you want, but.
But would you recommend that men and women wait to have sex until they're married?
Okay, I'm going to watch some TikToks.
all right so this is of a girl that did it oh the internet This is something I have never talked about publicly planning on it, but I felt like recently that I should.
So here we go.
I am someone who waited till marriage.
Before you scroll, I'm not going to.
And by the way, half the girls that waited till marriage, backdoor and gluck, luck.
That's how they get around it.
Judge, I'm not going to condemn.
This is about me.
I think the reason why I didn't talk about it is because I feel like the people who do talk about this online, one, are super weird about it.
Two, are super cringe.
Three will condemn people about it or be like, this is the way you need to do it.
And I'm not doing any of those things.
So you do you.
I'm just telling you my experience.
The main reason why I did this was honestly for my faith.
And so I don't know.
Now, guys, I hear you guys saying, but STD is in the chat.
All right.
You can get an STD if you're married.
We're going to do an STD show on Friday to give you guys an in-depth, like what your risks are.
Basically.
But one of the guys I interviewed that is herpes, he got it from his fucking wife.
Like he got it in marriage.
You know, you don't know what people are doing.
Decision pretty early on in my life that I was going to wait.
The reason on top of this is I don't love hookup culture.
I think the whole thing is very toxic for me.
Like I want to bring back like the chivalrous age.
We don't want to go back too far because like, you know, I like the right to vote.
I do think that there's a lot of benefits to waiting.
Completely disagree with you have to test drive the car before you buy it.
Like I think that's completely false.
Phrase has nothing.
Can you imagine you do the whole waiting?
You dedicate the rest of your life to this woman.
And then she says, God says I can't gluck luck.
That happens to guys.
I know, and I'm going to tell you guys anecdotal stories.
There's a guy in New England.
He waited till he was married.
And he was from a really religious background.
And she just had a really low, she either had a low sex drive or a low sex drive for him.
Now you have to remember, guys, the number one consumers of OnlyFans are white Christian men.
So to me, that's saying that this whole waiting thing isn't really working how we thought.
So to do with love, which is what marriage is all about.
Our culture, we've gotten lost in the sauce, no pun intended, about what marriage is for and what specifically is meant for.
I made the decision that I was going to do that before marriage as well as not live with my partner.
We've just seen it end so badly with so many people.
I think it makes things messy if the situation gets a and they say you don't need to test drive before you buy it.
And I'm like, who wouldn't test drive a car?
Like, and this isn't just a car.
This is like a car that can literally kill you.
Like this is a car that can fuck you for life.
And this is a car that's supposed to, like, the amount.
Think about this.
This is a car that's supposed to provide a service and the service is, you know, fucking.
And the car salesman is like, do you know what?
You got to prove you really want this car before you buy it.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, this car has had other drivers, but we can't let you test drive.
Now, you might want to do that, but that's, it's kind of dumb.
It's kind of, it's kind of dumb.
It's so much harder to get out of the situation.
Self-protection, I think it was important for me to not live with my partner before getting married.
Sometimes in society, we make so much serious things unserious.
I feel like we need to bring back the seriousness of like some sacred things.
I didn't want anything distracting me from really getting the bottom of who that person was and if I could see a life with them.
I feel like for me, not waiting.
Now, by the way, maybe waiting for marriage would work if these women were waiting, but women are not.
They're just effing.
Until marriage would have been a distraction.
I wouldn't have ended up with the right person.
Thank God I did.
I think sometimes.
Pearl, ultimately, what you're saying is the personality and the internal of the woman is more important than her character.
Well, what good is her, okay, what good is the woman's personality if she's not hot and wanting to get down and not wanting to throw it back?
Like what, if she could be a good person, but if she doesn't throw it back, what good is she to you?
That's why, you know, it's interesting because I keep hearing about this bloodline thing.
And I was thinking, women almost choose betas to give, to like give their bloodline or whatever out of necessity.
I don't think it's like the flex.
A lot of these trad cons make it out to be.
This is misconception.
The flex is banging a girl in 30 minutes after meeting her.
That's flex.
I've seen the PUAs do that.
Oh my God.
The PUA I had on my show a few weeks ago.
I was at a thing in Vegas and I went to one of his boot camps.
I just wanted to see.
I saw him take home two girls in the same day.
I was horrified.
I didn't think that happened.
I was a lot younger.
This is like when I first got into the, yeah.
People wait because they're trying to go back to like.
Yeah, and the reason Doug says women need to have sex with the guy as soon as possible.
Yeah, and that's what I would, I would say, after a certain age, because you have to ask yourself, what's more valuable, your youth, your time, or your purity?
And we got to do this thought exercise.
I know men like to, women, don't let these guys lie to you.
Don't let them lie to you.
There's a lot of women with low body counts that are 50, but they're not signing up for those.
Your youth is your most valuable asset.
Now, I'm not saying you got to throw it back to anyone.
But guys, it's really like if they're going to ghost you, they're going to ghost you.
If you do it on date three, like the thing is, especially, I know how these like players think.
And one, you're not going to outsmart them.
You're really not.
They've thought through everything.
But like, basically, if you put up too much resistance, they just start selling you boyfriend.
They just start set, like, if you, if you need more comfort, that's what they teach the guys to give the woman more like comfort.
So she thinks it's more long-term in order to get, you know, get the Punani.
I mean, you just kind of got to wait and see.
Do it.
And then you can find out if he likes you or not.
But most women aren't going to tell you this, but yeah, I mean, basically, the guys that fall for that, that the, I'm more attracted to the woman that make me wait.
And they like see the women that make you wait as more virtuous.
You guys have to understand the women that make you wait longer see you as more of a sucker.
Like that's how that's how we, I'm the only one that's like being honest with you.
Like women, when they like the PUAs have a term for this.
They say she should pull you.
You shouldn't pull her.
She should pull you because these guys can build up the attraction so much to the point that the women are pulling the guys home.
And you might think, no, that can never happen.
These guys are meticulous.
I am telling you.
I am telling you.
They told me how they cheat on their girlfriends.
And it was so good.
Like, I'm like, ladies, there's no way you could catch them.
There's just no way.
Like, they have thought through.
Like, there's one guy that he was having trouble with, like, the hair women left.
So he just bought like a three-bedroom house and each girlfriend would have a different room.
Yeah, I know, but the trads, that's what they, and the things, if women can easily wait till marriage with you, I want you to understand that it's with you.
Like, it's you.
Now, if she's ripping your clothes off and you say, honey, we got to wait.
Okay, I could maybe see that word.
Like, that dynamic is at least a little better, but that's not the dynamic I see in churches.
Traditional patriarchal things, and that's like not why the reason why I did it.
For me, waiting was more empowering than anything else.
Now, was there times I thought this was dumb?
Absolutely.
Was there times I questioned God about the whole thing?
Absolutely.
Even when I finally got married, I did question what is the pain.
Now, I would want to guess if her husband's going to be like traditionally masculine or feminine.
I don't know.
I'm going to click on the page after.
I don't think of waiting all worth it.
Because, guys, if you're dating someone you love, it's really rough.
And sometimes it does take a toll to wait.
But now that I'm officially a year into my marriage, I can say it was 100% worth waiting.
Now, let me clarify.
I just don't know what would the difference be.
Like, like, okay, I know somebody, right?
And this person's been married 40 years.
And my whole life, this person said, wait till marriage, wait till marriage, wait till marriage.
And this person had a 40-year marriage.
And I thought that was, you know, they fooled me on this too.
And I thought to myself, I was like, huh.
Well, that has to be the right way.
There's all these studies or whatever.
And then I found out what this woman did was she got pregnant three months after meeting the dude.
And I'm like, so really, the advice you should have been giving me was to just, you know, get right to it, I guess.
Get pregnant.
Now, I'm not saying to do that, right?
But I was like, damn, I would have been married five years ago if you just said, get right to it.
You know, I'm not, I'm kidding, but half kidding.
But this is what a lot of the trads do, right?
They say wait till marriage.
And you ask, well, what did you do?
And none of them waited.
And you think to yourself, like, imagine if I had a billion-dollar company.
And you were like, well, how did you do it?
Can you tell me how to do it?
And then you say, well, you got to do it this other way.
And you're like, no, no, tell me how you did.
I want to know what you did.
And if I saw, the problem is, what happened to me anyways, is if I saw like a traditional relationship, like the people that sign up for this, if I saw a really masculine guy and a feminine woman that seemed really happy, you know, I'd sign up.
But instead, I get like the Trent Horns.
You know, Trent Horn's wife's like mouthing off saying she wants to fuck the pastor instead of him.
Like on a podcast, you know?
And yeah, hold on.
Some things.
Waiting till marriage does not mean God's going to fix all your problems.
And I absolutely still believe.
Yeah, and it takes the burden of performance off of women because, oh my gosh, you guys don't even get to have like the I want him to marry me sex.
Oh, you're going to miss all of that.
The best sex you'll ever get is a woman trying to get a ring.
And you are, you, oh, you, oh my gosh, because we all know women are bad people.
I'm thinking about this further.
Not all, not all.
But I'm thinking about this further.
Women, we all know that the worst sex is married sex.
And it's because women, like you being a good guy, like our attraction to you is basically how much we hate you.
That's the unfortunate part.
It's not fun as a woman because she'll be like, I hate him, but I want to, you know.
So, but basically, guys, what I'm saying, the best sex is the sex before marriage.
Every guy gets married and says the sex is terrible.
So the people, the guys waiting, they don't even get to experience the best sex.
They get the worst sex off the bat.
Off the bat.
Like, they just go right to the worst sex ever.
Like, the best sex is her, is her.
She thinks you have other girls and she's trying to get you away from the other girls.
Then the next best sex is she's trying to get a ring.
And now you're, you're just skipping all the bats.
And the guys, they're opting into this because God, like basically, basically the preachers are coming and are like, F, we need somebody to marry these whores.
Oh, what are we going to do?
Guys, you have to wait till marriage because God.
Well, the women aren't waiting until marriage.
No, God.
It's just an L.
It's an L.
And look, I'm not the most religious person in the world.
But, and part of that comes from, I come from a pretty religious background.
And I just would see how a lot of these ideas panned out in real life over time.
Like, I'll give you an example.
In college, these girls would be in situationships for like three years.
And I thought, I was like, they're so dumb.
You know, he's never going to settle down with them.
That's never going to work.
And I really thought I was like, we'll just leave.
Like, he's never going to date you.
all married and pregnant now.
It does work because men do reward loyalty and they just took shit for a while.
And then he did.
Like, I always hear these women say, well, if a guy's waiting this long to marry you, he's never going to do it.
That's not what I've seen.
I've seen the last wedding I went to pulled the trigger after seven years.
Other wedding I went to pulled the trigger after 10 years.
Other wedding I went to four years.
Like, I was like, I don't know.
Like, if anything, the people that rush into it, I see them get divorced pretty fast.
Like, within three years.
Anyways, but yeah, you're basically just you're saying, let me have the worst sex of my life.
Let me opt in.
Even education.
We need to be educating ourselves, even if you are waiting.
It's ignorant and harmful not to know.
You're someone who's on the fence about waiting until marriage.
I'd encourage you to pray about it, think about it.
It could be a really beautiful thing when you find the right person.
Let's say waiting until marriage really kept me from a lot of toxic situations that I could have been left in.
Allowed me to get out way quicker than I probably could have if I didn't do otherwise.
It was super vulnerable for me to share.
Please be nice in the comments section.
All right, let's see if she has.
Let's see the oh my gosh.
So let me get this straight.
Her top thing.
Do you see what I mean?
Like, this is the trad girl that waited till marriage.
I can't.
Okay, here's the husband.
Let's see who signed up.
This is going to be the biggest test of our marriage.
And no matter what happens, we have to know it's us.
Let's see.
We got to decide alpha or beta in the chat.
We got to do the whole matter the results of this.
I will always love you.
Text means come to the house over my romance.
This is going to be really big.
Let's see.
I mean, he's already a super simp because his girls are.
Yeah.
Half of these are just marketing for the next guy.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, so it's like because basically, if the religious people, they're trying to say this works.
And what they'll always do is they'll cite some studies, right?
But at some point, the studies, and I've cited some of these studies.
It's a little bit embarrassing now.
I've cited some of these studies, but like at some point, I have to see it play out in real life.
Like, I have to be like, oh, if I look at the people that did it, their marriages look like super different.
Like, super.
And I see them look worse, if I'm being honest.
Like, at least the guy in the beginning.
It's amazing to me.
How much?
At least the guy in the beginning got that like toxic sex first, you know?
I'm sure these guys, these poor men don't even get to experience it.
They don't even know what genuine desire is.
They never get it.
Because you're starting the relationship.
Women, it's like, if we want to bang you, you got to make us insecure and you got to get rid of the comfort.
And so, but you're starting the whole thing and just putting all the comfort up front.
She doesn't have to work for it.
Not even glut Gluck, you know?
Types of videos get whenever we post about it.
Yeah, this is the typical.
Yeah, okay.
So this is the they waited till marriage.
She's got a nose ring, hoop earrings, and looks dead inside.
And he also looks miserable.
Does that look like a happily married guy?
So I think that we should talk about it.
For context, Jacob and I have been married for three years, and we did wait to have sex until marriage.
And we also waited to kiss until marriage.
Oh my God.
They waited to kiss.
It's something that we really felt convicted by God to do as Christians, and we wanted to honor.
Do you see the humiliation in his eyes while his wife puts their sex life on the internet?
Like, do you see how humiliating that is?
Forgotten our relationship, and it ended up being like one of the best things we've ever done.
I can speak for what, and I'm serious.
What would be because I'm thinking of this couple that's been married 40 years?
They had sex, they got pregnant, and then they got married.
What is the difference?
Like, to me, I'm like, and then the worst part is these women will virtue signal to me like they're somehow better.
And I'm thinking, I'm like, how are you better than the couple that just started banging in high school and stayed together for life?
Like, what is the difference?
Pearl, listening to you woke me the F up.
You pimped me back to life.
Can't thank you enough.
Much love to you.
Thank you, Kay Casino.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, okay, let me continue.
Myself personally, that I've never been with anyone before besides Jacob.
So my only experience has been with him.
Your simp husband might believe that, honey.
But I don't.
Nope.
So there's no comparison or idea that I have of what it would be like to be with someone else.
I'm coming from the other side of this conversation.
So before I met Taylor, before I gave my life to Jesus.
I hear the same like kind of simpiness in the voice.
Unfortunately, but it's not like a deep, you know.
I did not wait until marriage.
So I have test-driven the car and done all of those things.
And I can just say and testify.
I mean, that's at least better.
Like he at least was effing around too.
My own life, it's a complete lie.
So everything I ever experienced before Taylor, where I didn't have an emotional connection, I was in an unhealthy place.
I was just focused on the physical gratification.
The connection that I would have.
How gay does he sound right now?
This sounds gay.
Or lack thereof was so minimal and not even comparable to what I now have with Taylor.
Our sexual connection is far beyond anything I ever could have experienced outside the context of marriage.
So I can actually testify against those comments because I've lived that out and I'm telling you that one way is completely empty, but God's way is so fulfilling.
And without going into too much detail, we also get a lot of comments of people saying like, oh, their wedding night sucked or their honeymoon isn't going to be good.
And we just want to come against that because that definitely was not the case for us at all.
I think because Jacob and I were such good friends and have such a good foundation of like, oh, you got to, oh, we were friends first.
He's cooked.
He's done.
He's done.
Love and commitment to one another.
You could also tell who runs the relationship by who talks first.
Does she look to him to talk or does she talk?
And if she starts, she usually runs it.
The best position to be in is the good luck Chuck position.
Seeing a girl I had a few months fling with in a new long-term relationship, knowing he's not getting anything proprietary is so satisfyingly funny.
Before our wedding night, it just made it so special.
Yeah, and I think the world's interpretation is that in order to be good at sex, you have to give way to perversion.
And that's a total lie.
You don't have to engage in sexual action with other people in order to learn how to.
The ladies in the chat know that's not true.
Not for guys.
Let's come on, guys.
Be good at sex.
Now, I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying it's the right thing to do.
I'm not saying waiting until marriage.
Like, you could argue that it's morally right if you believe in the Bible, right?
According to your religion.
I'm arguing it doesn't work in 2025.
That's what I'm arguing.
I'm arguing you can't pray these hoes back into marriage.
You just can't.
Concept of entering into it with somebody, communicating with them through love, and doing things for each other, not for the selfish gratification of yourself, but actually for the love and the sake of the other person.
That's what it's supposed to be about.
And you can never experience what that is.
Okay, how old is she?
She looks late 20s to me.
Oh, she doesn't have age.
Let's look at the let's see if at least she's covered up.
Please, God, this last one killed me.
Okay, this is a little better than the last one.
I have a little bit more hope.
Not really, but are we going to label him a Chad guy?
He is pretty tall.
He is pretty tall.
Are we going to?
No.
Okay.
All right.
Put in the comments if you think he's an alpha or a beta.
You guys get to pick.
Alpha or beta.
Put it in the comments.
The men.
All right, let's use next.
So, this guy again.
All right.
And so, when you guys call in, so me and my husband's been waiting for marriage.
I want to know what you guys have seen and experienced.
And I'm going to tell you guys a couple of my experiences of what I've seen in a lot of these religious backgrounds.
And girl, I do not regret it.
I'm going to take you on a little story time, okay?
He had been saved since he was four.
I had been walling out in the trenches of the world.
He had been a virgin his whole life.
I had been far from.
Okay, that's where we're starting.
We got together when I had been saved for about a year, and he had been singing.
She's going to ruin his life.
That's a recipe for disaster.
Single for about 10.
I had been single for about three minutes.
It wasn't three minutes, it was longer than that.
I had a single season with Jesus, but it wasn't very long, okay?
And so when we got together, the Lord had to put his hand so graciously on our relationship and give us strength because your girl was not so fond of patience, you know.
From the time we started dating until the time we got married, it was literally less than six months.
The Bible says, rather you marry than burn with lust.
And we said, say no more.
But for real, we both had confirmation from the Lord that we were going to get married.
We knew very early on, a week into our relationship, that we were going to be husband and wife.
So we started dating.
We start loving each other.
Because remember, a lot of times women, when they're dating you, they don't know if they want you or the kid or you or the wedding.
And that's why the guys that are getting sex for free, they really know that the girl likes them because they're not giving shit in return.
Why are you preaching people to not wait till marriage?
That's ungodly of you.
Let me guess, Elizabeth.
You're going to try to sell me that you're a virgin.
Right.
Like more than I can tell you I've ever loved anything or anyone in my life.
The women are going to hate this because I'm spilling the game here.
I'm spilling the game.
Marriage, like, marriage is a way for women to get a beta to bail them out.
And then she can ruin your life later.
Remember how this worked out for Crowder?
That's the other thing.
All these guys that touted this stuff, they keep ending up in these super scent marriages or getting divorced.
If second to Jesus.
And I was obsessed.
I am still obsessed with this man.
The thought, the look of this man sent me to Mars, sent me to Mars.
And you're probably going to experience this.
It was very hard for us to practice self-control.
Now, did we wait?
We did.
We absolutely did wait for marriage.
And my goodness, I cannot tell you the difference between you know what in the world and you know what in the kingdom.
It just doesn't make sense.
I don't believe there's a big difference because you guys took vows.
The vows don't even mean anything.
Women are leaving after like seven years.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you said to me, waiting till marriage is super different.
And I saw really different results, right?
And I looked at the couples and I said, wow, they're going to make it.
But you guys keep putting up these ex-hoes.
You think you've experienced you know what, but you haven't.
You've experienced sin and sin alone, and that ain't the same.
But we did mess up.
We were doing and feeling and touching other things that we should not been doing, feeling and touching.
And I want to tell you, and just she was glut-glucking.
She's a mid.
That's how she got the ring.
Boom, case closed.
Be honest with you about our story so that you marriage is just a made-up thing like taxes, passports, countries, borders.
I don't know.
I'm starting to think the longer I'm alive, the more I think it was made up by women.
Because it's just such a great get out of jail free cart where you don't have to do anything.
Oh, the only burden of performance is to be young, cute, and not even young anymore, to be cute and not have sex.
That's way harder than like not nagging or being likable.
All you have to do, all you have to do is not have sex.
You cannot make the same mistakes because I wish you would have saved.
Guys, trust, there are women that wait until marriage.
How old are you, Elizabeth?
give me your age give me your age give me your age are you gonna call in I better see you on the Zoom.
Every little thing.
I wish we wouldn't have slept in the bed together before marriage.
I wish we wouldn't have been, you know what, before marriage.
I wish we would not have.
I wish you wouldn't have made out before marriage.
Now, knowing how sweet it is when you wait and how blessed it is when you wait, I wish you would have saved everything.
I'm so for real.
I probably would have waited to kiss until marriage now knowing how blessed it is when you do.
I would have wanted to experience everything to that kind of fullness.
But when we got married.
All right, so Elizabeth is 19, almost 20.
And she expects me to believe.
Let me get this straight.
So, all right, the average girl loses her virginity at 16.
And you, some girls, as early as 14, you start to get a sex drive.
So, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20.
You had six years of having a healthy sex drive, especially when you're young.
I mean, these young women are fucking anything these days.
And you're expecting me to believe that you never got fingered, you never backdoor blut.
I'm not as dumb as your simps, okay?
I'm not.
And you can tell me that, but women are deceitful.
And I've had a lot of women on the show tell me they were virgins.
And I'm tired.
I'm exhausted.
Let me tell you, there's nothing like it on the face of the earth.
It is literally a picture.
Yes, self-control is key.
Yeah, like women have self-control.
Of Christ uniting the bridegroom with the bride.
And let me get this straight.
I want to add to that.
So let me get this straight.
On top of that, you have a phone and you have an iPhone and you have a dating app that can get you a thousand matches in a day.
And you could put the pin in a different city and have a guy that could, it could be completely anonymous.
You'd never see him again.
And you expect me to believe that in six years you never did that.
Sure.
Alright.
Okay.
Yeah, I did have faith until I started talking to women.
That's so true.
That's so true.
Yeah, I started, I won't even lie to you guys, because I could give you a background of my faith stuff.
But I was pretty, like, I went to Catholic church probably till I was like 23.
And I was in and out until my mid-20s, I would say.
But, oh my God, yeah, these women, they definitely made me lose faith.
They really did.
Oh, I have a man dating apps.
Okay, Elizabeth, then why aren't you married?
It doesn't go to the courthouse.
Go now.
This is this is what the trad women do.
If you were traditional, you would just get married.
You would if you really like you would just get right to it.
There's no reason to wait.
If you're waiting till marriage, go to the courthouse and get married.
But they never do.
There's always, oh, I need to finish school.
Oh, I need to do this.
Oh, I need to do that.
Uh-huh.
Go get married.
How convenient.
How convenient.
Yeah.
All right.
Who we got next?
Okay, so I never talk about this stuff on my TikTok.
I want to see this.
But why is it that every time I tell someone I'm waiting until marriage, I always get, oh, you don't want to test your episode.
Don't I have to get to know the person first?
No.
Because women are so good about not sleeping with someone in their immediate social circle.
Women are so good at it.
So, okay, we could have a woman that has a reputation for not sleeping with anyone at the college, but she'll just move the dating app to the city or meet a guy through Instagram.
Like, guys, she could have a good, or she goes on a vacation and Gluck looks.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, it's just it.
So she can, the only people dumb enough to buy purity are betas.
Because the alphas have banged these girls.
They have betas buy purity.
If you met your husband at like 15, I'll believe you.
Maybe.
Car before buying it.
Or girl, there's like weirdos out there.
Like, don't you want to know what he's girl?
I don't know about you guys, but like, how much more attractive is a man who not only respects your boundary, but okay?
So women try to sell you guys on this.
Oh, we like men that respect our boundaries, but our number one book is 50 Shades of Gray, which is BDSM has the same boundary who's willing to wait for you and to love you and choose you for you, not for what you can give them physically.
It's giving, I want you to be the father of my kids.
You know what I mean?
Like, ladies, I don't know about you, but we live in a world where there's like nasty people.
And why is this woman in my chat trying to sell purity to me?
Because she's already got a guy, right?
So if he, if, but the problem is, now that I'm telling, right, she's going to be mad because the next guy she's got to sell purity to.
Yeah, I mean, fine.
You guys can believe it.
People out there just objectify women and just hook up culture.
It just, it really terrifies me.
And it's so disgusting.
And like, why wouldn't I want to wait until marriage?
But I don't think it makes her a bad person if she's fucked.
Like, she's a normal person with a sex drive.
Sex is a need for men and for women.
I'm not, you said there's good people.
But I don't think it makes her, I don't think it does anything really to do with her personhood, what she does in her bedroom.
I don't care.
But yeah, like the selling purity, it's just not going to work on me.
Go find a simp, please.
And so reassuring too.
Like, why wouldn't you want someone who has enough self-control?
Why do these women like our men who like men who obey boundaries the women sets for them in that sense?
Why not?
Why wouldn't you want to wait until marriage?
You know what I mean?
It's like you don't want something good for you.
I don't know.
I wish I had the right words to explain.
It just makes sense to me.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Who we got next?
Waiting until marriage.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the thing is, you'll notice these women, none of them are beautiful.
They're always mid.
And remember, mids are less pure than beautiful women because mids have to compete.
Beautiful women can do less and get more.
Like when you're a beautiful woman, a guy will wait like six months and pay for your entire existence just because you're beautiful.
If you're a mid, you got like two dates, Chica.
One and a half if you're 32.
So, anyways, you'll notice a lot of these women are mids.
Decisions I've ever made.
I've not always waited until marriage to have sex.
Before my husband and before dating my husband, I didn't believe in it.
Even though I was a Christian, even though I gave my life to Christ, it wasn't something that clicked in my head yet.
Before meeting my husband, I was in a relationship with someone that was Christian and that actually helped me find the Lord.
But the thing is, we were not waiting for marriage.
We were very much fornicating, having sex, and that was something that I didn't feel was bad until I felt that conviction from the Lord.
There's a lot that happened that I won't be sharing today that led me to the point of that conviction.
But I felt that, and that person didn't.
And I think that's what led us to break up.
After that relationship, may I ask why young people shouldn't wait till marriage?
I'm not against young people trying, but girls are starting young.
All right.
I mean, even a guy that waits till marriage, she's probably banged someone else in the high school.
I'm just being honest here.
I was so broken that the only thing left for me to do was to just fully give myself to Jesus and fully commit myself to him.
Okay, ex-ho.
I don't care.
Okay, who's next?
Oh, I wanted to talk about it.
I made a list of people I met and don't show it, but the so when I look at the people that I know that waited till marriage to have sex.
So I know one woman that I think it worked out for, and I didn't think her husband was a super simp.
I know one.
But guess what, ladies?
She went to college and she was on a mission.
She went into the Catholic dorm and she was getting that ring.
And she graduated.
You can do it, but you got to be cashed out by like 21.
I do think she got finger blasted like once or twice.
So I don't know if you count it, but that's the closest I've.
Now, really, though, what I've seen in churches, the dynamic is like this.
Usually there's one or two chads that are like athletes, entertainers, football, whatever it is.
And they'll just pick the hottest, hot, first, most feminine, second women in the church.
So they'll pick like one or two and get married again by 21, 22.
They're done.
Sometimes you have the mid that pulls it off, but she's got to be like super feminine, and even that may not be enough.
And then the other guys really just fight over the leftovers.
That's what I've seen.
And the girl's like, fine.
Then you get the weird girl.
So I was in this like Protestant church for a couple of years.
And I went on this retreat that made me leave.
And it was because, and they're nice enough, but it was like these late 20s to mid-30s women that were just super single.
And I was like, I'm going to die alone in this church.
And in this church, basically, these women, they don't submit to their husbands.
They submit to the pastor.
Because let's say she's dating a guy.
Does she ask his opinion?
No.
She asks the pastor's opinion.
And then what do the women do?
They love telling, they love correcting the husband by thumping a Bible over their head and telling them they're not holy enough.
Like I met this 30-year-old virgin at a wedding once, and she allegedly was a virgin.
And she told me that this guy wasn't holy enough because he tried to have sex with her.
And I thought about it, and I'm like, do you understand men at all?
They want to have sex all the time.
They're horny guys.
The other problem you get in these churches and these very religious people, they're very sexually stunted.
Again, back in the day when they did arranged marriages and they did the waiting till marriage thing, they got it done.
They didn't, they had a solution to people's sex drives by the time they were like eight.
They were 18 years old.
I'll say, because I want them, I don't want them coming for me.
And so they would have to wait, but they'd have to wait like a year.
It's pretty weird to spend like your whole life sexless.
And that's really what they're asking men, not women, to do.
They're saying, spend your whole life sexless because men don't really become attractive to women until like 30, 35.
And even then, like these women aren't really wanting to get married, guys.
So you also get the ex-hos that humiliate their husbands by giving speeches about all the dick they took in the past.
These women are like sharks in the water.
And then you get the weird homeschooled kids who are not very social and just act weird because of like a weird form of autism is what it was described as.
Not that they all have it, but it's like it's almost like they behave.
And that's really what you get in these churches.
And I think they're all really weird because you're like stunting a person's sexuality.
And that problem used to be taken care of when the world, they did arranged marriages.
But like, it's not natural for people to be waiting till they're 30.
Elizabeth, if you found your right one, you'd be married.
You're going to.
You're going to move on and do better.
I'm sure you will.
And I wish you luck in your hypergamous future.
Okay, everyone.
So call in.
We're going to put the link in the chat.
And I want to know your thoughts on this topic.
Would you recommend somebody waits till marriage in 2025?
Recommend somebody waits till marriage in 2025.
Recommend somebody waits.
What is the.
And by the way, guys, I came into this wanting to believe this.
I wanted, I wanted this to be true.
But, you know, reality sets in.
You start to see these couples getting divorced that way.
You get to see these super simping.
And I don't see that it works in 2025.
Most of the people I know, like the happiest couples, they really had sex immediately pretty fast.
Women, You would recommend, of course, you would.
It benefits you because you don't have a burden of performance.
You know, like I had, I had a PUA.
I was reading his field report, and he talked about how he had sex with a girl and then he ghosted her because she wouldn't stop talking during a movie.
That's the burden of performance.
The husbands have to just listen to it.
Do you see what I mean?
It's like a raw deal.
The player just says, get out, and then you get to deal with her bullshit.
Where the husband or where the player, yeah, the husband has to deal with the whole movie.
She just talk and talk and talk.
And I was reading that field report.
I love a movie commentary.
I think I'd get ghosted.
All right.
We're going to do a call in.
So, is Doug MPA on the line?
I am here.
Oh, Doug MPA.
All right.
So, and this is, I want to know three things from you guys.
I want to know what, if you would recommend it and what you have seen work and not work.
I don't, please don't tell me your religion.
I just don't care.
Please don't tell me your Bible verses.
It's really nice, but look, I'm asking what works.
Go ahead, Doug MPA.
Okay, first off, Elizabeth, in the chat, if you don't call in, I'm timing you out.
You're going to be timed out for 24 hours because you've been talking all this garbage, getting the chat all riled up.
I've been letting you go because I said call in.
If you don't call in in the next 10 minutes, I'm timing you out because you are getting a little too hot in the chat.
You have the opportunity to call in.
You're asking if Pearl is going to get married, have kids.
Why don't you call in and say it to her face?
You got 10 minutes.
Okay.
So, I think that if you're pretty much like 19, 20, 21, and like the guy and the girl's a virgin, I mean, I mean, I guess, but like you said, oh, yeah, of course she is.
So now you're going to be in timeout.
Yeah, of course she can't.
So she can, let me get this straight.
She can do it.
She wants me to believe she's a dick.
Okay.
Dude, this is what I mean.
These virgins, man.
They're so disagreeable.
They're like, I'm a virgin.
Well, then, why don't you scream purity?
Because if you were pure, you wouldn't be bitching at me in the chat.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, why don't your actions match?
This is what they just say, believe me, Pearl.
Believe me.
I said it.
Believe me.
Screw you.
I know.
And I and I don't even give me the benefit of the doubt on this show.
I say, guys, don't believe me.
It's fine.
Like, assume the worst.
I'm not going to shame somebody for not giving me the benefit of the doubt when you're a stranger.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Someone in the chat said, Pearl, why would you tell women to not be virgins or young people?
Here's the thing, if you meet a woman who's gotten to 30 and she's a virgin, she's crazy.
Yeah.
If you meet a guy who's 30 and he's a virgin, he's an incel.
I don't normally like that term, but there is a such thing.
It's just been overblown.
And then also, ladies, a man will not audit you to see if he wants a relationship with you until sex happens.
Men get to know you two ways.
One, I have sex with you, two, to see if he wants you around.
And pro and I, we keep going back and forth about in this day and age, guys.
And you shouldn't look at a woman sleeping with you on the first date as her automatically being a whore because you want to be the guy she sleeps with on the first date.
Yeah, it's like the guy, the guy, it's like sometimes guys want to be beta so bad.
They're like, oh, she slept with me on a first date.
I'm like, did you not want that?
You don't like it.
You can see if she made an exception for you, like by how invested she is.
Like if she ghosts after, it's not a big deal to her.
Yeah.
If she's in love with you, if she's in love with you after, she could do it often, but maybe you're awesome.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, then you then you have to vet based on her behavior.
But I'm like, it just depends who you are to her.
Go ahead, Doug.
Sorry.
Yeah.
The only story I knew.
So I had a friend when I was younger, and this girl, this is when we were really young.
I was like fresh out of high school.
I think I was 20 to like 19.
And one of my friends was two years older than me.
And he met this girl, and she was in a relationship all through high school for four years.
Then she broke up with her boyfriend.
And then he knew this girl for six months and married her so they can have sex.
Right?
And they were together for like 12 years and had two kids, but they ended up getting divorced.
And that was the only circumstance where I knew a guy that slept with a woman who waited for marriage, but they got married after six months.
And okay, wait, did it work out for him or no?
No, they got divorced after like 10 years and two kids.
Doug, I want to do an oldie but a goodie video.
I found it.
Can't pull it up.
Do you care?
What is it now?
I want to do my virginity doesn't count video.
Do you remember that?
I found it.
Okay.
Okay, here I want to play it.
Hello, class.
Welcome to the Just Pearly Things YouTube channel.
Today, I'm going to be doing a lesson as usual.
But before I start, don't forget to subscribe to the channel and ring that notification bell.
That way you're going to be notified of my daily videos.
Today, I have my lovely student, Jess.
What's up?
This is Red Till101.
Okay.
So today we're going to talk about virginity.
I remember this.
What do you know about virginity?
A lot.
Let me get to the example.
Number one: you're a whale.
Now, well, whales are a beautiful, majestic creature.
Ah, the internet.
Oh, I'm lining up to date fat chicks.
A dude will take an OnlyFans model with 100 bodies before he takes a fat chick.
I'm sorry I don't make the rules.
Don't hate the player.
Hate the fat.
It just says what it is.
You have to be a certain level of good looking to get in the club.
Number two.
You hate the mouse habit.
You can't even get in.
You're ugly.
Your virginity doesn't count if you're ugly because, again, blessing.
If your girl's face looks like it was smashed in with the baseball bat, but she's a virgin, or you get a girl that's that's pretty hot, but you know, like 10, 20 bodies.
10 bodies.
And that's what it's saying.
Virginity, it's it's valuable, but it's not valuable if you're a whale, you're ugly.
Nobody's lining up to date ugly fat chicks.
I don't make the rules, yeah.
And so, a lot of girls will be like, I'm a virgin, I'm a virgin, and it's like, Great, ma'am, but nobody's trying to, no one's trying to mess with you, no one's trying to mess with you.
So, it's like, Okay, yeah, you turned down losers that were trying to screw you, but like, yeah, so anyway, point number three: Your virginity doesn't count, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I forgot you're old, okay.
Now, menboard back, right?
I have it, it's over there, but if you're up with 21, let me see what else, yeah, which goes back to point number one and two.
You're lying, or or you're too picky because let me think, you've been in the game since you were 16, 18, and you're telling me not one guy could live up to your standards,
too picky, or something is wrong with you mentally.
Now, a lot of virgins get this I'm better than everyone attitude where they just think they're God's gift to the earth because they have and okay, you get the idea.
What did you think of that?
I remember old school pearl, man.
Remember, can we still call women whales on this channel?
Or is that a no-go?
You didn't tell any lies in that video at all.
I'm telling you.
Where's the last one?
Trying to skip through it.
Oh, if you're selfish and argumentative, if you're a bitch, basically, your virginity doesn't count, but yeah, these are the four.
So, your virginity doesn't count if you're ugly, you're a whale, you're old, or you're selfish or argumentative.
It doesn't count.
So, yeah, this woman was like in the chat.
She was like, I'm a virgin, I'm a virgin, but I'm like, Well, does it count if you're arguing all the time?
Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
So, have you ever seen it work to people waiting for marriage?
Because you're in your 40s, yeah.
Um, I had a woman who I met that was in her late 50s.
Her and her husband, they grew up in Alaska, and they had sex when they're when he was 16, she was 15, she got pregnant, and they've been made for almost 50 years when I met him.
Okay, anyone else?
That was the only one.
Nope, damn, that was it, damn.
Yeah, like it seems like it only works if like they're super young.
Um, if a woman is a child by a man and then is a relationship for seven months with him and having sex, then she waits until wait, if a woman has a child by a man and then isn't in a relationship for seven months with him and having sex, then says she wants to wait till marriage, is it right?
Oh my gosh, no, that would happen, Doug, MPA.
Because we would do at my high school, there was like these chastity speakers, and they would send out, and it would always be the same story.
Some girl got ran through and then waited.
And the guys would be like, No, we're not sending the girls now.
Like, no, the chastity speakers in town, the girls might not want to have sex anymore.
Yeah, I had a, you know, I've met liberal women who try to do this thing.
They say, well, every so often a woman wants to stop having sex so she can regain her energy and realign her something or whatever.
I've had a girl try to use that on me before where we had had sex, you know, for the first couple of months.
And then for some reason, with her chakras and her energy, she wanted to stop having sex.
I'm like, what?
Oh, I'm out of here.
See you later.
The other thing, you're teaching women to weaponize sex to get what they want.
So, like, you don't get to have sex with me unless you commit to me forever.
It's kind of entitled in a way.
Yeah, but that's why, and it's funny because a lot of these women know that sex is all they have.
It's like Brittany Renner.
Brittany Renner wanted a man that could have sex with all the women in the world to just have sex with her and beg her for sex.
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I appreciate you guys.
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Can you tell them the story about the girl you dated that was in the church?
If you don't mind, you don't have to, but wait, the one that I dated.
You told me that she was really religious and she like regretted it because it messed up her life.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, so I met this girl and she was, she was a black girl.
And, you know, most of the time I stay away from the B-dubs, but she was, she was really, really nerdy, really bubbly, and she liked K-pop.
Anyway, so I met her.
She was 33 years old.
And when she moved off to college, her first day of college, no, her second day on campus, she met this super religious group.
I'm talking like Jesus is coming any day group.
And she just latched on to that.
And from 20 to like 32, she was all about, you know, proselytizing.
Jesus is coming every day, blah, blah, blah.
Right.
And then she finally woke up and was like, I'm wasting my life in this because, you know, he hasn't come in the last 12 years or whatever.
So before she met me, she lost her virginity.
She met this guy on OK Cupid and slept with the guy that she met online for the first time.
And then he goes to her afterwards.
I was like, no way.
She's like, yeah.
And she regretted that whole time because she's like, I let that be the focal point of my life.
And I missed out on all these opportunities.
And now I don't know what to do.
And Doug, MPA, would you say you could get married again?
Would you say you were open to it?
Yeah, I'm open to it.
So if a woman came to you and said that she was open to it, but she wants to wait till marriage, would her chance of, what would be her odds of landing you?
She's gone.
Yeah, and I'm the only one that's going to be honest about this, guys.
I mean, you might get a young guy on that, but the guys that hit 30, they're going to, they wise up and they abandon it.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Once you hit your 40s, if she doesn't sleep with you on the first or second date, guys, there's no point.
So.
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Melissa, are you there?
She's probably watching YouTube, so she's like 10 seconds behind.
Melissa.
Melissa, are you there?
Wait, it's not Melissa.
This is my wife's computer, so.
Oh, hey, how's it going?
How's it going, Pearl?
Thanks for having me.
Can you tell me what part of the country you're in and your age?
38 in Texas.
Okay.
So what are your thoughts on the topic?
Do you recommend people wait for marriage?
Have you seen it work?
Have you seen it not work?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think.
Hold on, hold on.
My daughter is.
Okay.
You got four seconds.
Just give me the 10 seconds.
I like it when a girl sleeps with me on the 800th date.
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I'll bring you back up in a second.
Okay, we're going to have.
Up next, we have Akil is joining.
Make sure to read that super chat, Pearlie.
Which the last one?
I thought I read it.
No.
Oh, did you?
I like it when a girl sleeps with me on the 800th date.
I read that.
Okay, cool.
All right, Akhil, are you there?
Yes.
Akhil, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
Are you in India?
No, I am an Indian, but I live in Canada right now.
Okay, cool.
What are your thoughts on the topic, waiting for marriage?
Well, it depends on the culture.
You see, if you're from a conservative culture, it's an obligation.
But if you're rich, it's kind of optional for you.
Okay.
And if you have like peer pressure, then it's better not to wait because then they'll call you a loser and stuff.
And if satisfying your peers is part of your survival, then you don't have an option there, right?
So what have you seen?
Are you friends with mostly like people from part of the Indian culture or no?
Yeah, I do have a friend from the Indian culture and also from.
And are they?
I'm just curious if you see them waiting for marriage and if you see their marriages working out.
Go ahead.
Five years back, they used to wait a lot, but not today.
Not at all.
Dang, it's cooked even in India, huh?
Yes.
What changed?
Was it feminism in India?
Feminism for sure.
And, you know, the peer pressure.
Like, you know, if this guy's doing it, I also got to do as well.
Something like that.
Do you see women sharing men a lot there?
Like, going for the same guys?
Yes, they do.
Yeah.
Have you seen there's like something going around on Twitter that's saying like Indian women will date white guys in their 20s and then go back to the Indian guys after?
Do you see that?
Oh, yes, that's happening a lot.
What about it?
Oh, I was just wondering if you've seen it because it's going viral on Twitter right now.
Is Indian culture xenophobic like that?
Where they only want you to have kids with another Indian or something?
No, it's nothing like that.
But I think, you know, the Indian women, they have pressure from their parents to marry among the Indian culture or something like that.
So, yeah, so that's why you always see them going back to, I think, maybe that's one of the reasons.
I don't really know.
And are you married yourself?
No, I'm single.
Okay.
Okay.
Have you ever been married?
No, no.
Okay.
30 years old.
All right.
All right.
Well, thanks for calling in.
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I have one more thing to ask.
Like, I applied for the Clipper's job with you.
Oh, Doug MP, can you remind me to go over that at the end of the show?
Yeah.
Not now, but I'll go over it later.
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Thanks.
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Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, go ahead.
Hey, how's it going?
What's your name, age, relationship status?
You said you're in Texas, right?
Yes.
I'll just hold down a sec.
Are you listening to the YouTube or are you on Zoom?
No, I'm on Zoom.
But I was on YouTube or yeah, YouTube listening, and it was echoing, so I had to cancel out.
Go ahead.
No, I think it's, and when I speak, I speak for more for young people.
I can agree that for older people, like if you're talking about 30 and above, it can be a little different.
But usually when I speak about myself, my wife, and our experience, and our testimony on this specific topic, we like to speak more to younger people.
And for me and my wife, we did it exactly as a lot of people dream to do it, but they don't seem to go forward with it.
Me and my wife were from Europe, and we met when we were kids.
We became really good friends.
Kids, when I say I was 14, she was 10.
And we became good friends.
And then I came to the States.
She was, of course, young, 10 years old.
She stayed in Portugal with her parents.
And I came to the States, had my childhood, the rest of my childhood until adulthood here in the States.
And 10 years later, we started talking through Facebook and we came together and then got married.
Both of us got married as a virgin.
So how old were you when you guys got married?
I was 29.
She was 24.
And we were both virgins.
Okay, so when did you guys start dating?
2011.
No, like how old was she when you started, like when she came to America?
When we started dating, she was 20.
Okay, but you couldn't.
2021.
Yeah, but you couldn't verify that she was a virgin if she was in another country.
No, of course not, but you ask, right?
You have that conversation.
Yeah, but like it kind of goes back to you just like, it's just believer because she said.
Like, how would you even know the difference if you weren't like if you like if you'd only had sex with her, how would you even know the difference between a girl that's a virgin and not?
Like, I've seen women pull that on Christmas.
I mean, I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a doctor to go in there and verify if she's really a virgin.
Yeah.
But I believe in her honesty.
I mean, we're both Christian.
And her family, I know her parents really well.
They've known me also since I was a little boy.
You believe in a woman's honesty?
I don't.
Well, I would agree with you, Pearl, that most women, most, and 2025 are not honest when it comes to their sexuality.
Now, me knowing my wife, because we were friends as little, and knowing her parents, knowing her family, yes, of course.
I truly believed that she was a virgin.
Well, you met on Facebook, right?
Like, that's how you reconnected?
No, we, yeah, we reconnected through Facebook.
Yeah.
And she was going, she was studying at the moment.
She's studying Chinese medicine.
And she told me, look, I dated in high school.
It was like, you know, like a two-week kind of thing.
It was nothing.
And then after that, she told me that she wanted to focus.
And her parents wanted her to focus in her finishing college.
And that was her focus.
She told me, this is my focus for me to focus on myself.
Say things.
Sure.
I mean, you have to understand.
I do this for a living.
So people call in.
And whenever a guy will say he found a virgin, she always conveniently comes from another state or country.
Like, I'm telling, it's like almost unique.
But I'm also from Portugal.
We're both from Portugal.
It's not like, you know.
So you know every guy in Portugal to ask if she did anything with them?
Like, come on.
No, no, no.
You're right.
I don't know every girl in Portugal, but I know her enough to believe her.
It's not like I met her and then we kind of like liked each other.
And I never met her, never talked to her before that.
And then we decided to date and then get married.
No, I knew her before and I knew her family before even.
I mean, when we were kids, like I said, she was 10 years old and I was 14.
We were just friends, just kids.
And I knew her parents.
Her mom, she's all her families, they're Christian-based.
Did she live at home or did she live on campus?
No, she lived at home with mom and dad.
Well, that makes sense.
her her mom was also a virgin when she got married and her dad was also a virgin when yeah so i mean it sounds nice but like sorry you might be it sounds it sounds too good to be true right no it just it's you have to understand again it's all like i've just heard this so many times where every guy find like you know if you were in the same country the whole time I could say,
okay, sure.
But like, to me, it's pretty implausible that you were the only guy she was messaging with.
Like, if she messaged you, she's probably messaging other guys too.
And a strategy that women do if they want to maintain purity is they tend to go out of country or out of state because then it doesn't get back to where they're from.
So I hope it was, but you can tell me how it turned out.
But yeah, you have to forgive me.
I just, I understand.
I have a girl.
I have a tough side.
What?
I understand where you're coming from.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
Okay.
I understand where you're coming from because looking at how women and young adults, let's just say that, how they are in 2025, I understand your point.
And it can be hard to believe, you know.
But I, like I said before, I knew who she was even as a child.
Now, I wasn't there after 10 years went by.
I wasn't there to see who she dated, who she messed around with.
I wasn't there.
But I know her parents.
And, you know, I know that she would follow as a Christian daughter of, you know, I know that she respects her parents a lot and so much that she would follow their steps.
And to this day, I mean, we've been together for 14 years.
And I can see, I can see why she would wait because she's not the kind of person to be jumping around, messing around or to jumping from relationship to relationship.
We have these conversations, though.
A lot of guys think that if Pearl questions whether she is actually a virgin or not, that it's saying something to the character of a guy's wife or the integrity of their marriage.
And that's not what's going on here.
All Pearl is saying is, you know, you just got to take it.
I mean, especially here in the United States, you got to take a girl saying that she's a virgin with a grain of salt.
Because the way I'm just going to think about it is she has a normal sex drive that starts at like 15.
She was 24, nine years.
You know, other people may believe that.
I don't.
I'm just being honest.
29 years old and I was a virgin.
Why would you need anybody believe me?
But I know what I did and what I did.
I kind of don't.
But that's exactly what I mean.
So it is kind of pointless having these conversations if everybody that you talk to, you are automatically going to think that they're lying because of how society is.
That's not true.
If you had different answers.
If you had different answers to the questions, I would have been more likely to believe you.
If I had different answers.
Yeah, if you guys are in the same town at least, I'd be okay.
That's maybe, you know, but different countries.
Yeah, come on.
Like, come on.
Okay.
But we got a full lineup of callers.
We literally have like seven people waiting.
Oh, yeah, that's fine.
No, that's fine.
Thanks for having me.
I just wanted to kind of give.
Look, I wanted to hear a little more from him, Doug MPI.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I just had one more question.
Okay, let's, for all intents and purposes, say you guys waited, whatever.
It worked out well, I'm guessing is your conclusion.
And did you know other couples that did the same thing?
Did it work out the same?
Go ahead.
No, I didn't know any couples that went through that and they could have their testimony, you know, out there and where I heard their testimony.
And I was like, oh, wow, it is possible.
No.
But she did.
But her parents, she followed her parents.
And to this day, she has a sister and she's following the same steps.
She's following the same steps.
How old's the sister?
Well, I don't want to say.
So she cooked her sister, basically.
I don't want to say.
In my part, I just, you know, I had a really tough past.
And so I wasn't the ladies kind of guy anyways.
And I focused on playing soccer.
My focus was to become a professional soccer player.
And that's what I did from the time I woke up to the time I went to bed.
That's what I did.
And so that was my focus.
And then when I was, I don't know how to say it.
I was open enough to talk to girls and be open with girls.
I was already older.
And at the time, you know, in high school, I did a couple of girls, but it was the same thing.
It was just like a couple of weeks.
And then it's just drama here, drama there.
And I would be like, no, I'm not for that.
And so I'll be like, okay, we can't be together.
And then eventually, I started talking to my wife on Facebook again after 10 years went by.
And it clicked because she was sharing with me views and beliefs that she had that I also had.
And I was like, you know, this is amazing.
She's a virgin.
I'm a virgin.
She's waiting.
She's focused on one thing.
I'm focused on another thing.
And also because we're Christians, I don't want to talk too much about the Bible and Christianity, but we truly believe when scripture says, you know, it's good for you to wait.
And by waiting, you become one with that person.
We truly believe that.
And so that was exactly what we wanted.
And I know that that is a hard thing to do.
Yeah, she cooked her sister, though, giving that advice.
Cooked.
If she's over 25, she's done.
Cooked.
I'm not going to comment on that because I don't want to be putting her sister on live here for a, you know, I'm just saying if she's over 25, she's done.
Cooked.
Okay, well, thank you for calling in.
I appreciate it.
All right.
Appreciate it, Pearl.
Yeah.
Have a good one.
Bye.
It's just, they always come from another country.
Always.
And then, you know, first of all, the guy's married.
I don't like, you know, I don't like having discussions like this with married people.
You know, the guy has a wife.
He seems like he's winning and happy and stuff.
Once again, people like that, they think that you're questioning the integrity of their wife and maybe he made a bad decision.
That's not it.
It's just, you know, you just don't know.
Yeah, well, it's just, I'm not, you know, they could have a happy marriage.
Don't maybe she was, but it's just very convenient that he wasn't around for 10 years, you know.
Like, I'm like, that's all you have to say is I'm a virgin.
And then, guys, okay, go ahead.
Next one.
All right.
We have Sarah is coming up.
She is in Audacity.
She is joining us on the call.
What's going on, Sarah?
Not much.
Hey, Sarah.
I think I hear the oh, it stopped.
Yeah, something I put out on me here.
Sorry.
There's that delay there.
How are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
I figured as a mom, I would call in today.
Great.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, give me your thoughts on the topic.
So are you still married?
I am 27 years.
Cool.
And was when 27 years ago, were people waiting to have sex back then?
Was it normal?
No.
So I know you're on virtuous and all of that, but no.
I'll be honest.
My husband had a daughter, and I wasn't exactly Lily White, but we got married and we've stayed dedicated to each other for 27 years through all the ups and the downs and the crazy and the dry and the deserts.
And we've somehow managed to get two sons who now are adults and two little girls that are in their teens.
And it's an interesting, I guess, viewpoint because we've seen what all my sons have been through.
My younger one just got through a divorce and met a girl six months ago and they're expecting a baby.
And, you know, and then there's my older son who's been through just horrible, horrible relationships.
And he's just, he doesn't believe in love right now.
But we try to encourage him to have faith that there is that one person out there that's just, he's going to know, kind of like when his dad walked into my life and I walked into his.
I don't think I would have less faith, actually.
Well, I am a little afraid for my girlfriend.
I'll ask you a question, though.
Just real fast.
How did your sons end up having such terrible situations with women?
Do they fall into like the stereotypical happy wife, happy life?
Men are supposed to bow down to women, Western garbage.
What happened?
I'll be honest.
I've kind of spoiled them.
And so they meet girls and they're very open and honest.
Like, hey, I want somebody that I get to take care of.
I want somebody who's going to be there for me.
I'd really like it if you stayed home.
You know, very, very conservative views.
And the girls are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I want.
And that's never what they want.
My son who got married, she wanted children and, you know, he was like, let's wait.
And in the end, she made him out to be just a monster and come to find out all she wanted was children so that she could leave.
And now she's, you know, by herself and out doing her little thing.
And he's expecting the baby that he's always wanted with somebody that just thinks that he, you know, is the moon and the sun.
She's got to be raging.
I bet she's so pissed.
That makes it better.
Oh, yeah.
She's very much this lady that he's with now does have two children from a previous marriage.
And she saw them out having breakfast like a normal family.
And I guess she called him and was like, I'm sorry.
I wish that I wouldn't have done what I did.
And he's like, I've moved on and we're getting, he's bought a house and he's bought cars and he's living his life and he's moved on.
But I am scared for my girls because of the culture and they are homeschooled and we've kind of allowed them, I guess, their area to come to terms with, you know, being 12 and 14 years old with the girls out there doing their thing and the boys out there doing their thing.
And I do worry about the future of it if they're going to meet somebody that's going to treat them nice and be good to them.
And I guess traditional.
They're not above working, but they really do want to be a traditional person that is loving and nurturing and caring and has children and has a good life.
Do you have anyone?
Do you have anyone around there in mind?
Like any sons that are because I only see that, like just my thought process.
I don't have kids, obviously.
So, you know, you're in the field, you know, more than I do.
But my thought process is you really are only going to get that if the families help.
Because if they do it on their own, it's Instagram and dating apps.
I think they use Snapchat, the teens now.
Whatever.
We don't have any of that.
They don't even have a phone.
Yeah, but at some point, right?
Like you can prolong it, but they'll turn 18 and they'll get it.
And you got to ease them into social media because if you homeschool them without a phone all the way through high school age and they go off to college, they're cooked.
Yeah, we are looking for the 14-year-old to get a phone, but they've watched what their brothers have gone through.
And my husband is an extremely conservative guy, very much of, hey, I'm the guy and you're going to listen.
And if I tell you that you're not going to do this, then you're not going to do it.
And they've listened and heard all of the stories that we've tried to tell them of, look, this has happened to your brothers.
This has happened to this person.
And they're like, oh, okay.
And I don't think that a lot of parents have that because, you know, the atmosphere is just different with peers.
So are your daughters, do they want to get married and have kids young?
I don't know.
You need to ask them.
They do want to have children at a young age, but they're also not above working.
But it's not the kind of work that they want to go out and get, you know, the cars and the colleges and things like that.
They want to, you know, be babysitters and care for children and be bakers and do music.
So right now, I know that they're very sheltered, but just make sure to watch because women that girls that want to get married, they don't use terms like partner.
Right.
If they start using the word partner, cooked.
Yes, I know.
Honestly, if they start talking about going to like law school or something like that or getting some kind of degree that nobody cares about or they want to start taking out student loans, just make sure you listen to their words because their words will become actions.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
One of them has actually mentioned, we are Catholic, and they both just made their confirmation.
And when asked, hey, have you ever thought about going into becoming a nun?
And one of them was like, yeah, I've actually thought about it.
But I don't think that that's where I'm going.
I don't know where I'm going, but I don't think that's where I'm going.
But it's not ruled out.
So we just kind of allow them to have kind of their own comfort level when they ask questions.
We tell them.
My older one has been out on a date that I, you know, hung out with.
And I think that annoyed the boy a little bit more than it annoyed my daughter because he couldn't put moves on my daughter and because I was standing there.
But I think that for my girls and for my boys, I encourage if they're from a healthy family of, you know, a dad that is definitely the head of the household and a mom that supports that husband being the head of the household and children that respect both of their parents and the guidelines that the parents have tried to put forth for them.
Those are the kind of people that usually tend to want a good relationship.
So that's what we're aiming to get them toward.
So what about what you've seen in the past like 27 years?
Have you seen, like, do you know anybody that's waited till marriage and did it work out for them?
I knew one person that waited till marriage and she was very much like my former daughter-in-law who wanted kids so much.
And that was her focus is kids, kids, kids.
And it was not on her husband who eventually just kind of said, okay, I don't want anything to do with either one of you because I feel like an outsider.
And that damaged both of them very deeply.
Of, you know, she had this child and the child, I don't know what happened, but he just kind of checked out.
Okay.
So she ended up, you know, because I always thought that the people that waited would have so much better results.
And as I got, just me personally, as I got older, it just wasn't what I saw.
I wish it was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wish that I had not had the baggage that I did when I met my husband.
And he wishes that he didn't, you know, go through the relationship that resulted in his daughter.
But we don't regret that we were who we were when we met.
We just wanted to do better than we had been doing.
Yeah.
Well, it's like we knew instantly.
If you're too afraid, I'm going to marry you.
Yeah.
Well, if you're too afraid to like get in the game, then you'll never, do you know what I mean?
It's most people don't find anyone if they don't date.
And a lot of times I find the people waiting, especially if they're older, they're just checking out a dating.
They're like not doing it.
Yeah, I had sworn off men.
I was like, I'm not dating anybody.
I'm not doing anything.
Would you recommend your daughters wait till marriage?
If I hope that for them.
I hope that they can have that one person.
And I don't know if it's so much waiting for marriage.
It's waiting for that person that you are willing to spend the rest of your life with and that you don't mind going through hard times with and you're willing to fight for and you're willing to argue with and argue over.
As my husband put it the other day, and he goes, I knew I loved you when I was willing to go to jail for you.
So I was like, okay.
Did that happen?
He's like, I didn't care if you were going to throw down with your mom or are you going to throw down with the guy down the street?
I was willing to go to jail for you.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I would recommend trying to at least put your daughters in situations with guys her age.
I mean, maybe they're a little young now, but when they're like two, three years, because I don't see the married, the people I've seen that got, that their parents like waited or that waited and it worked out or at least married young.
You know how smart?
And I didn't clock this in high school.
Can they work at like golf carts or golf groups over the summer?
Because a lot of my friends met their husbands by doing that, right?
Yeah, Washington State.
If you work at a nice coffee stand, yeah, yeah, in a nice, in like an upscale neighborhood, come on now.
We live in Bransons right now, so there are so many places here that they can be out and about, but they also do a lot of things through church.
We go out a lot.
Um, there's not a day that my 14-year-old is going, oh, mom, that guy is cute.
I'm like, uh-huh, I know, I see you.
And then, you know, I see the boy across the thing going, I see you too.
Okay, she's too young for you, Mr. 16-year-old.
But they definitely are starting to kind of blossom into, yeah, we are going to have to kind of let them start dating at 16.
We can't hold them back, but we're also not pushing them.
That I see a lot of kids their age being pushed into situations where they're like going, Okay, I don't know how I feel, or I'm not ready for this yet.
And that's what I meant: you know, not everybody's ready for PG-14, you know, relationships at 13 or 14.
Some of them would be like, Well, I'm ready now, and I'm going on 15, and that's okay.
Yeah, it's really one thing they don't talk enough about, it's really dependent on the kid.
Like, I have I'm one of 10, so I mean, I have siblings that at 15 they were ready to date, and I have ones that weren't ready to date till 20.
But it was, you know, so yeah, but my younger one, she's a lioness, and she's just ready to go right now.
She's like, I'm 12 and I want to date.
And I'm like, No, no, we're putting you on a leash, you're dangerous.
All right, you're gonna hurt somebody, Doug MPA.
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It was so nice, so nice talking to you guys.
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Hey, Carlos.
How's it going?
Pretty good.
How about yourself?
Good.
Remind me, what's your age?
And are you married?
I'm 34 and I've been divorced for three years.
Okay.
So you're the single dad, the kids?
You want to go?
Yeah, four kids.
Okay, sorry.
I'm not the name sometimes, but I remember voices.
So what have you seen when it comes to waiting till marriage?
Did you do it?
Obviously, your relationship didn't work out, but maybe you've seen other people and it worked, didn't work.
What have you seen?
I mean, I haven't seen any of them work, to be honest.
It just, unless the only ones I've seen work were like where people were married back in like maybe the 50s or 60s and they're old now.
So it's, but we live in a different time now where something that captivated me with one of the venues that you showed was the whole people always want to say like, oh, because we found Jesus ideal.
Yeah, they may, they may have found Jesus, but do they read the Bible?
Do they know what it says?
Um, we see how like the divorce rates are out like skyrocketing.
And I'm pretty much, I think, the one of the only things that Jesus said about marriage was like you can't divorce.
Um, the only grounds for divorce was adultery, but we see that that no one's looking at that these days, even people that join church.
So it's uh, yeah, it's very, it's very uh slippery ground when it comes to that situation.
Have you ever dated a woman that um tried to wait for marriage?
Like, she either waited or like did the reweight thing, and like what was that experience like?
If so, yeah, I did, I did.
Um, she uh she, or I mean, she told me she was only she only had been with one guy.
He had got in a car accident, was in a coma, and that, um, so three, sorry, what was that?
What was that so three?
Yeah, maybe, I don't know, and that's the thing, you just you don't know, but with this with this person, uh, she told me she only been with one guy and that uh, she her husband cheated on her when she was in a coma because she didn't know if she was going to come out of it, she came out of it and all this other stuff.
But um, no, it's very hard to tell.
I mean, even for myself, I ask women, I mean, I don't ask them before I sleep with them, but I ask women afterwards how many men have you been with, and um, it's just uh because you don't know.
And I think the only way that you could really find out if this person's really a virgin is if you do like a polygraph test, and it's like that's like asking a woman to do a DNA test when you have you're having a baby, it's gonna be a sour subject, and but at the end of the day, all relationships are a risk, yeah, you don't know what that person is gonna do.
Yeah, um, so the girl that was, so do you think, um, like, would you be open to getting married again?
Yeah, and something because I mean, I'm like I said, I'm a single father, four kids.
Um, like, my social life is like shot, it's just the truth.
So, I know I use the dating websites and stuff like that, and um, a lot of the women that I run into, you know, they have kids too, whatnot.
And I mean, I wouldn't mind getting remarried, it's just like you got to ask the right questions.
Like, one question I ask, and it's not right away, but did you sleep?
Did you cheat on your husband?
Like, did you sleep with someone else?
And they're like, Well, yes, because he wasn't showing me this, he wasn't showing me that, and all this other stuff.
I was like, Well, couldn't you just divorce them and then do something?
Well, so it's just like so.
I was just wondering if a girl asked you to wait till marriage, like if she says she's a virgin, would you consider waiting till marriage?
I'm doing the polygraph test seriously.
Like, no, if a woman wants to pull that car, she'll have no problem doing it.
And you got to make sure you gotta, you gotta add in, have you blown anybody finger?
Women do so many losers.
No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, yeah, there's so many things that you have to, yeah, it's just not, it's just not penetration, like, yeah, we, I mean, it's called oral sex for a reason, so yeah, it's just, I don't know.
I just think, I think about my kids, like, it's uh, I honestly, for my kids, I'm really and seriously thinking about doing like arranged marriage, yeah.
I mean, that's the it and even then, I mean, if they, if the girls say no, like there's nothing that's stopping, no offense, there's nothing that's stopping them from downloading an app and going crazy.
And I'm just more worried about my daughters.
Not my sons.
I'm going to teach my sons, you know, just wait.
I mean, you don't.
I mean, you're, I mean, because technically, young men don't have really that much value.
They don't have jobs.
They don't have, I mean, they have a long way to go to get their values.
So, but women, especially if they're beautiful, even women that aren't beautiful or just average, they have value.
They can access anybody that they want if they wanted to.
I know.
And men don't have as much control as they think.
Like, I'll hear Tate say, Oh, my daughter would never do that.
I'm like, there's a lot of fathers that have said that.
And you just, once they're 18, you know.
Yeah, if who's that mega pastor?
The black dude whose daughter was a single mom.
And I'm just, I'm one of 10.
TC Jake's.
Yeah, go ahead.
TT Jake's daughter, who was a total single mom.
Like, she literally wanted to rebel.
He was paying attention to everyone but me, so I got pregnant and became a single mom.
Yeah, exactly.
TD Jake's daughter.
And I'm one of 10.
So I've even seen how different kids turn out so differently, even with the same exact parents.
Like, just different.
I would say he's cooked, but he's toast.
OMG.
I think he's talking about the last guy.
But, you know, I wish you luck.
How old's your oldest kid?
It's about to turn eight.
Okay, you got a little bit of time.
Maybe they'll like invent some solution by that.
I'll probably get worse.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's just I think things are going to turn out worse as time goes on.
So we'll probably see naked people walking around before we know it.
All right.
Thanks for calling in.
Absolutely.
That was funny.
Guys are so funny.
They think of everything.
We're going to do polygraph test.
On the wrong person.
Do polygraphs aren't there like susceptible to do that?
Like, how accurate are they?
Could you even know?
Yeah, you can be a professional polygrapher.
It's a whole thing.
It's a whole industry.
Yep.
Okay.
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Sean?
You sound really far away, bud.
Hello?
Okay.
Sean's been on the show before, so I know he knows what he's doing.
I'm going to put him back in.
It's actually kind of crazy.
Waiting until marriage ensures you the worst sex possible for men, anyways.
Like, it's like you get the worst.
Yeah, I would agree for sure.
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Great, Pearl.
Hey, Pearl, I have a question for you.
Sure.
Is there anybody out there who waits until marriage that is not religious?
do i know anybody that i don't not that i know personally but i'm i'm sure to uh No, there might have been one person that came on my show that claimed they were like, they have a channel, though, so I don't.
I mean, when the relationship's public, you kind of are like, you know, there's incentives to not be overly honest, but there's one person I think they're not religious.
But off the top of my head, no.
So have you found people do that aren't religious?
No, never.
The only people I've ever known who waited until marriage were religious.
That's it.
That's all.
Okay.
And how did it turn out for them?
To tell you the truth, I don't even know because I've lost touch with those people and I have no clue how their stories ended.
I do know people who weren't religious and then became religious as adults and then, you know, kind of conveniently stopped having sex and met somebody and then waited till marriage.
Most of those people turned out all right, but I think that most of those people actually had genuine faith.
And because they had genuine faith, I think that they actually were a part of good communities where there was accountability and there was shame.
Like, oh no, if I get divorced, like, how am I going to face my friends and that sort of thing?
So how long are they?
Have they been married now?
They have kids and stuff.
The only example that's coming to mind, this specifically, is my aunt and my step-uncle, but they met and got married in their 40s.
And they both had previous marriages and grown children.
So they waited till marriage in their 40s?
No, they were Christians by the time.
I mean, they were Christians when they both got divorced.
And then they got back out on the dating market.
They met and they got married pretty quickly after meeting.
Does that make sense?
No, it does.
Doug MPA, do you have any questions for him?
I do not.
Well, thanks for calling in.
I appreciate the insights.
Have a good one, buddy.
Call anytime.
Yeah, please do.
I sent this to my, I don't want to say who, but someone I know that's dated a lot of Christian girls, I'll say.
Oh, he said if I get a break, I will.
Okay.
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Okay, we'll let in Donnie because he's always really, really quick.
Hey, what's up, Doug?
What's up, Pearl?
Hey, Donnie, how's it going?
I'm surviving.
So, what's your thought on the topic?
Do you know anybody that's waited for marriage?
Um, how did it turn out for them or you if you did it?
Well, I'm not married, but I didn't wait for marriage.
Uh, I mean, I used to believe in the whole purity culture stuff.
If you've ever grown up being raised by a single mom and you watch Mari enough times, you're gonna look at that and realize, wow, it's not a good thing to have children out of wedlock.
But the thing was, eventually, it became kind of a cope because if you're not really desired by the opposite gender, it really doesn't matter.
And the thing is, as I got older, I became more secular, actually dating people.
Attraction and dating really is amoral.
Even people who claim to value certain values they'll abandon them when they see someone they're attracted to.
Yeah, like you know, those 100% true, like you know, people like Jeremy Meeks and these other pretty boy bad boys.
You know, there are women who say, Oh, yeah, I'd never date someone like that, I'd never give money to someone like that.
It's like if a guy is good-looking enough, he can murder children and do the cruelest, evilest, loserist shit.
And women, even Christian women, will love them.
But the opposite is also true.
Yeah, true.
A man could literally research a cure for cancer, feed starving children.
I'm gonna, sorry, I went to community college with a girl who's um who who was married.
Her parents were married, but then they were in the church.
I don't know why I didn't think of this until now.
And the mother would join that program where like Christians would go into prisons and like preach, you know, and proselytize and like try to preach the word to prisoners.
And jail baby with a prisoner and got pregnant with her and had her, and it like destroyed the family.
Conceived and she was literally living like living with the shame of her mother breaking up their Christian household because they had like the three other kids, so she was number four, and the mother cheated on the husband with a freaking prisoner and had her, it broke the family up.
Yeah, damn.
So she was she was living with that.
Isn't that crazy?
That's Jerry Springer meets Oz messed up, you know, out of the prison show.
But anyway, I'll be quick.
I know some Christian virgin friends of mine, like even though I'm an atheist, I still keep up with them.
And some of them are virgins waiting for marriage, and it may or may not happen, but it's more so because some of them are just too scared to even talk to women.
I mean, I don't deny Christian women are messed up, but a lot of my Christian virgin friends never really learned how to actually date.
It's like church told them everything about how to be a good husband, but never how to, you know, ask the girl out, see if she's actually into you.
I know men who've wasted years in the friend zone.
It's like, look, get the yes or the no early if you can.
Try to sleep with someone.
At the very least, go for the kiss, but you don't do yourself any favors with all this needless waiting.
Well, I feel like it's almost like making failure of virtue because you're feeling your burden of performance as a guy.
Like, because I'm sorry, real quick before I go, it seems like a lot of the burden of performance material comes from Rolo Tomasi and Richard Cooper stuff.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I really fucking hate those guys because they seemed righteous when they started, but it's like they shill this false narrative that as men get older, we become more valuable.
Like, no, most men, when they hit 30, 35, they're not rocking it like Boomhauer or John Redcorn.
Most men turn into Bill Dotry, fat, balding, broke.
If you're not building up those early wins, if you're not having early success with women, building healthy relationships, if you're stagnating and getting older, you're not going to age like fine wine.
Wine doesn't even get better in real life.
It usually just gets better.
But that's enough for me.
I know you guys got a busy line, so I got to go.
Love the show, Doug.
Love the show, Pearl, later.
Thanks for calling in.
Cool.
Next thing, Rolo's going to do like a five-hour stream.
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It's like, Pearl said my name.
She used to keep her name out of my mouth.
He'll say, he'll say, don't talk about me.
And he does a three-hour stream.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'd say.
He's just saying, she used to keep my name out of her mouth and then talk to you and then talk about you for seven hours.
Seven.
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I think, too, men that get a lot of girls in a certain social environment, but don't have the skills like graduate out.
I've seen that happen where guys are like in a frat or in some place where getting women is kind of easy.
Or like they're on a team or something, but then when they like enter the workforce or something, they haven't, they don't have any skill because it was just like the right guy at the right time.
Have you seen that, Doug MPA?
Yeah, 100%.
That's why a lot of high school football players play them out in high school or they're popular in college and stuff.
Yeah, that isn't transferring.
That isn't transferred out to the real world a lot of the times.
I agree 100%.
Yeah.
What's up, Doug MPA?
Hey, I'm good.
What's going on, bro?
Hey.
So what are your thoughts on the topic?
Have you seen anybody that's waited till marriage?
Did it work out or did it not work out?
Hell no.
It never worked out.
I'm going to be very, very particular here on this call, right?
So I don't want to sound red pill, but I got to say, guys, be very, very pushy about clapping these chicks earlier.
Because the more you clap them chicks, the better you become later on.
Now, now, now.
I got to say, for some of the guys out there that are, you know, religious, right?
I understand that you cannot break your customs.
You cannot infringe to your beliefs.
You probably won't, won't, go in there and try to, you know, break it and make it loose a little bit so you can wait.
But the more you wait, the the the, the harder it becomes for you to adjust.
Right, you know some of some i'm not going to refer to some of the guys out there red tails, but they are 100 on point.
If guys are not trained to know exactly what it is with the females, they're going to mess it up because they're going to get played also for the females.
If I have a sister, I really don't want to be out, I don't want her to be out there and getting slammed by these guys, right?
So I, I want to protect her, I really want to protect her, but I can't she she, she cannot be out there too uh, trying to, to learn about these guys and and not be able to to uh, to be vulnerable at the same time, because she's got to find the good guys.
So she has to be also, you know uh uh, a wise no street, she gotta be street wise and book wise right smart so, street smart, and and and and book smart smart cool so right, so I don't want her to be, you know no, you know, uh taking advantage too, especially if she's she's a Christian, so I think she's also needs to wait uh, but the fact is to to close, this bottom line is,
we are in the 21st century.
Our father and mother relationship is not the same as it used to be.
Now they will lie to you, just like uh, the guys earlier I don't know if his name was Will and everybody else.
You need to have a lie detector, buddy.
You need to have a lie detector because you're gonna ask her, uh, did you break it loose earlier, before I got here?
She's probably gonna say no, she yeah.
Yeah, you're gonna get played.
Everybody is out there having fun, all right.
Well, thanks for calling in.
Okay, all right cool, the audio is just not great.
Yeah, it was.
It was giving me a headache sorry, man.
That's why you.
Your audio was just too bad, sorry.
Okay Sean, I tried to bring you up before I bring you up again, so you better Sean, you there?
Uh yeah, i'm here.
Can you hear me hey?
Hey Sean, how's it going going well?
So what are your thoughts on the topic?
Do you know anybody that waited till marriage, and how did it work out?
Uh yeah, I mean the only ones that I know who waited till marriage were usually like a Christian background but they came from like an eastern culture that is very like low percentage demographics here in the U.s.
So it's a little bit harder to meet people.
And the ones that I know that got married, they got married in their 30s to guys who they didn't really find that attractive but maybe financially are where they want them to be.
So it is kind of a beta sort of relationship that they kind of have with them.
Uh, but those sorts of marriages are more pragmatic and more value exchanges than they are about love.
So if that's your expectation for a marriage, then I guess it worked out well, uh.
But if you're looking for more of the Eurocentric sort of love-based marriage uh no, i've literally never seen that.
Um, and are they still married?
Uh yeah, I mean they're still married.
I mean the cultural background that these folks come from, like basically everyone stays married uh, but they kind of stay miserably married, if that makes sense.
So, like you know, 20 years into that marriage it's no different from a love-based marriage.
And how many couples are thinking of how long have they been married?
Uh, so far they've been married, for at least they're around my age, so they've been married for about three years, so not that long, okay.
So we'll see Yeah, um, you kind of get a better idea.
Like, it's like I kind of put 10, 20 to like 10, maybe 20.
It's like, I think if you make it to 20, you're most likely going to make it.
It's either 20 or 25.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Yeah, I was going to say, like, the cultural family background that they come from, it's more of a collectivist mindset.
So, marriage is not really about your personal happiness.
It's about more family ties and things like that.
So, it's more of a shame-based culture, a lot of social stigma.
So, everyone in your family is married.
So, like, if you're the first one to break that, it looks really bad.
And you're going to be sort of ostracized from your community.
So, more than likely, they will stay together.
You know, everyone in their families are all, you know, continuously married.
But it's not necessarily like a very happy, loving marriage.
It's just marriage in general.
Right.
So, cool.
That's really what you kind of see.
But yeah, sort of, you know, where I have seen like other folks who I guess, you know, more to the topic of virginity specifically, like I've seen the smart girls that I've seen like on the Christian side, they get married young and they leverage their capital as a young, fertile virgin to seek a very financially rewarding guy.
So to speak, like I knew this one girl at my office, she would go every single lunch period to the local hospital and sit down in their cafeteria hoping to meet a surgeon.
And eventually she came back six months later, married to a not so attractive looking guy, but he made a lot of money.
So like the smart ones know to capitalize their beauty and youth and fertility when they're young.
But whenever like I would meet girls that are like PhDs that are in their late 20s that are virgins, usually they're like trying to use it as a kind of like brokering a relationship on like sort of terms that they want.
They think it's like a some sort of valuable power that they have, which I just find ridiculous.
Like if you're past 25 and you're still a virgin, to your point, Pearl, like there's something usually wrong with you.
Like either you're sexually repressed in a very negative way or you know, you're trying to get a one-up on a guy by saying, hey, I'm a virgin, by the way, so I'm somehow better than these other girls, which is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
I'd say it's time to start.
I'd say it's time to start fucking, you know, that'll get you further than that cart.
Like after 25, it's time, ladies, it's time for your whole phase.
It's time to start fucking on the first date.
I mean, I didn't say with everybody, but you know, I gotta, if she's a virgin in her late 20s, there's no way she won't take some L's.
So it's just gonna go ahead.
I mean, I was gonna say, to be honest, I don't think most guys like in today's day and age necessarily care if the girls are virgin.
I think they just care if the girl is very selective in who they will be with and very long-term minded.
So if they're screwing losers and F-boys, I think that really kind of ticks off a lot of guys to be like number 10 or number 15.
But if they've only like, you know, been with, let's say, two, three guys and these were like hardworking guys, but for whatever reason, it didn't work out with them, but they are long-term minded.
Like these are long-term relationships, not situationships, not friends with benefits or things like that.
I don't think most guys care, but usually the girls that guys are running into these days are doing a lot of nonsense and running it up until 30.
Yeah, but if she's hot, if she's a mid, if she's hot, like she might have a hundred percent relationship rate, but like, because that's another way they'll get you guys is they like expand how long they dated somebody.
That's true.
And they don't tell you about the L. Like if you're a mid, like you're going to take some L's.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like if you're beautiful, then you won't.
But you'll take less.
They can take L's and they can always maneuver it because women will all they can always tell the female friendly version of any L where they just pretend it didn't exist.
Like if a girl downloads Tinder and even if she wants a relationship, you know, sleeps with a guy a few times, he doesn't call her back, she could just pretend it didn't happen.
Yeah, or she can call him, no, that's that women come up with a lot of things.
But that's, that's why some of these churches just leave these women.
Like, I'm like, they're never, if they're not super hot, that strategy is not going to work.
I mean, hot girls can get away with fucking murder.
That's true, but I would say it's more of an economic situation, given that like most of the country's kind of overweight or obese or not really taking care of themselves.
It's almost like the more attractive girls know they have more power.
They can get away with more shit.
Oh, yeah.
That wouldn't be tolerated in countries that have a normal BMI that you'll see on the other side of the world, right?
Whether it's in Europe or Asia, et cetera.
So it's almost like it's giving a lot of the more attractive girls way more leverage.
And if you're a guy and you work really hard all your life, trying to settle for a below average girl and overweight girl, it's like a total middle finger to you for like all your hard work.
So I don't fault a lot of guys for going for kind of the hot girls who maybe, you know, they've kind of run the field a little bit.
Cause like if you are going to be with one girl, presumably for the rest of your life, probably not.
But for whatever period of time it lasts, you know, you, you want an attractive girl for all the hard work you've done.
So I don't necessarily blame those guys.
I don't either.
If I was a guy, I would just go for the hottest girl.
I'm hypergamous.
So I would just go for the hottest girl possible if I was a guy because she's going to leave.
The mids are leaving too.
You might as well just get a hot chick.
That's true.
You know, I've seen a lot of like quote-unquote loyal girls that are not necessarily the most active.
They're like out of their marriages now that they've had their two kids.
They're seven years in.
So like if you are going to get divorced, you might as well, you know, rent the Ferrari and not the Corolla, right?
If that makes sense.
Plus, plus you can just show, you can have a public picture of your ex that was really hot.
And then all the new, then you can get hotter girls.
That is true.
Like girls will see like your Instagram or your past photos.
And if they view like that girl as much hotter than like what they are, like that'll instantly make them message you a lot more compared to like if you have like a 300 pound ex-girlfriend, like you're not going to get anything.
Yeah, totally.
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Brad, are you there?
Yes, I am.
Can you hear me?
Brad, are you?
I use your name for like one of the Chad archetypes.
Yeah, I know.
And when I was coming up in my early years, I was kind of a Brad in training, so to speak.
I mean, I never, if you ask if I know anybody who held out, I was a virgin until I was 21, and I lost my virginity to the woman I married.
And that was over 40 years ago.
Great.
So it worked out.
Yeah, I know somebody.
Well, it worked out.
I talked to you last week.
I'm the guy that was married for 36 years.
My wife kicked me to the curb because she felt she could do better on her own after I provided what I could up until that time.
So I didn't know that was going to end up that way.
And I've learned a lot about women's thinking from listening to people like you and a number of other people who've got podcasts on YouTube about the way women think.
And it has revealed a lot.
But, you know, as far as this not waiting till marriage, I've seen in my years a big difference between, say, the 60s and 70s and what the attitudes were.
I had a friend in high school that he was kind of like the real person that you'd call a Chad or a Brad or a Tyrone.
I mean, he'd see a girl and he was smooth.
He knew what would give him an opportunity to get them alone and then he'd make a move on them.
And there was still that on the girl's side of it, that feeling that she needed to express a certain amount of reluctance.
No, I don't, not now, that kind of thing, which I don't think you really see that much.
I hear you laughing, but it's true, right?
I mean, girls brag.
You see them on, I don't watch TikTok except for what shows up from TikTok on YouTube, but you see them bragging in street interviews about, you know, all the guys they've been with just since yesterday.
And, oh my goodness.
I mean, we used to get called down by girls in high school just because our language was common.
Oh, that's common, you know, garage talk, gutter talk, sex talk, you know, just, oh, that's just so nasty.
It's a whole different world now.
I mean, I still, from a moral perspective, I don't see where, you know, if I set religion aside, I'm not so sure that I see the point about, you know, sleeping with girls, sleeping with women as a like a preliminary step, as if that somehow gave you an edge.
Because I think we've admitted that there's such a level of deception when you're engaging with a woman, what she pretends to be, that whether it's the speech or her actions and she pretends to be this person, or whether she sleeps with you and makes you think, I'm going to be getting great sex.
There's no guarantee that you're actually getting reality.
And I can't complain because even though I was a virgin, my wife was not.
And I knew she wasn't because I knew she'd been living with a guy at his family's home as his girl live-in girlfriend and that they were intimate before we got together.
But I did not know how much of a party girl she was secretly behind the scenes, you know, sneaking off during classes to go meet up with a guy and get it on at his parents' place while they were at work and things like that until after we'd been married for years.
And the sex was fine.
I got plenty of it for more than three decades.
And I never had any complaints about the quality.
So, you know, this idea of everything's individual, but the idea that you got to test drive the car and all that, I think the problem is the flip side of the coin doesn't necessarily get you anything or guarantee anything any better.
You know, some of it's generational.
I realized I'm an old fart.
I mean, I'm one of the two guys in the balcony in the Muppets.
I don't know if you guys are familiar with those.
You know what I'm talking about?
Doug, you're a little closer to me.
What did they say when the church burned down?
Holy smokes.
Where were those two guys?
Yeah, the two old, cranky old guys in the Muppets.
And they're up in the balcony and they're always heckling, you know, whatever's going on.
And I've turned into one of those old heckling guys.
But I mean, I'm thankful to a degree that I'm not my kids' age in their 30s or my son's about to turn 40 next year and in a position to where, you know, they're trying to make a decision as far as wait or don't wait or do I sleep with this girl or don't I sleep with this girl.
We were primarily worried back in the day about STDs and about unwanted pregnancies because you got to realize nobody would bat an eye now if a young guy walks into a store, goes over to Walmart to the section and buys himself some condoms or whatever.
But back in the day, we're talking 40, 50 years ago, that was a whole different story.
And you didn't have like Amazon and places where you could order it and have it mailed to you and nobody knew.
Yeah.
Sorry?
No, I said like privately.
Yeah, I was just.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't have, you didn't have the privacy back then.
And it was a whole nother thing.
It's like I said, even the girls, if you just started talking something that had innuendo or a double entendre, you know, the polite words for sex talk, they were like, oh, God, you all are so common.
You guys, boys are nasty.
Yeah.
Or back in the day, if a woman got pregnant in high school, she just disappear.
Yeah, I had a girl in my English class when I was in my senior year of high school.
And I think she wound up like five months or so along before she then finally disappeared.
But it was like, you know, it was like a school scandal.
I mean, and I'm not in the 50s, so we're not talking about Leave It to Beaverville.
But even in the 70s, in spite of the sexual revolution and the summer of 69 and the year of the summer of free love and everything else, it's still, it was, this is a very different world.
And I think unless you're an old fart like me and you've physically seen the difference, the way things are are all anybody's ever known.
So it seems normal.
Out of the couples you know back then are how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
I will say I'm in my early to mid-60s.
Do you know any couples that are still married?
Well, my folks have been married.
They're in their 80s.
Sorry, I met from your like graduating class.
From my graduating class?
Yeah, I actually do.
In fact, every once in a while, I still have some connections with some of them.
My high school graduating class actually linked up a number of people who linked up with other people who connected other people as suggested friends on Facebook.
And so I still see regularly what's going on with a lot of my classmates.
And I'm amazed that I know of at least two couples that were like the hot couples dating in high school.
And they're still married.
Oh, they're the hot couples.
And they post stuff of activities they do together and everything.
Cool.
Yeah.
I mean, it kind of women that get the Chads in their social group, I've kind of seen like, that's just that I've noticed they stay married longer.
Yeah.
I was a romantic.
I had opportunities to, you know, to get with and to smash.
And I turned them down.
And, you know, it wasn't that they were weren't attractive.
It's just, you know, to me, my thinking back in the day was if they're that available for that, you know, first of all, I don't want to get a girl pregnant because there were too many potential stories of people who knew people where, you know, the girl got pregnant and they had to get married because of the baby and then they couldn't stand each other.
And I didn't want to wind up in that situation.
And then the other thing was the concern that, you know, she's, if she's going to have sex with you, don't think you're so special that you're the only one she's willing to have sex with or is having sex with.
Yeah.
So, you know, while I was in high school in my very early 20s before I got married, my concern was if she was too flirty and too hinted too much at the idea, hey, I'll sleep with you.
I was like, no, I don't want that.
I want a relationship.
So I really wanted to date somebody and have a relationship first.
So I wound up with my, basically my childhood sweetheart.
We met when I was 13 and she was 11.
And we continued to kind of connect off and on through the years.
And as adults, I saw her and met her again and we had a conversation going.
And she asked me out.
And we went on a couple of dates and I went to visit her at, she was still living with her parents, visited her at parents' home for a number of dates.
And then we went out together.
And, you know, we did some petting and some light stuff, but we didn't get into any oral sex.
We didn't get into any actual intercourse or any of that until after we were married.
In fact, I married her.
She was on her period.
So we had to wait for the honeymoon.
Anyway, that's a different side of things.
Yeah.
Hopefully that's of some use.
Cool.
Well, thanks for calling in.
Call in anytime.
And yeah, I appreciate the insight.
So thank you.
All righty.
Y'all have a good one.
Me too.
We said to have to take one more person because he's been waiting.
SoCal lowbrow.
Be nice.
This guy makes me want to chop my ear off and move to the south of France.
In fact, I'm bringing him up.
This conversation's making me go to Ketchum, Idaho.
All right.
SoCal, where you at, buddy?
You're on.
SoCal.
SoCal, you're on mute, buddy.
You're on the show, Mr. Super Chatty Catty.
SoCal.
Are you there?
SoCal going once.
SoCal going twice.
SoCal going three times.
And it is time to wrap the show up because I am tired.
Yeah, I'm getting sleepy.
This was a great show, though.
This is a really cool conversation.
Yeah, and we still have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Maybe we could do a part two a different day.
Just because this is a good conversation.
I was hoping to have someone that it worked out for.
During the show, I looked up the woman who, like, I said, she got married young and she's still married.
So I think she's, I'm 28.
I think she was 22.
So six years now.
Guess we'll see how it turns out.
That's all we can do.
They seem happy, though.
I just wouldn't, I wouldn't recommend her to.
I don't have any kids, but I wouldn't recommend a daughter or a son to wait till marriage.
No way.
In this current market, heck no.
Nope.
Sorry.
If you're going to recommend your kid, find the husband.
Like that, that's what I, if you're going to recommend your daughter, does that find the guy.
But remember, at 18, it's her choice.
So if she wants to download Tinder, you know, you can't really stop it.
All right.
So any of the final thoughts, Doug MPA?
Nope, that's it.
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