Pearl Daily examines how modern churches and dating culture now favor the "perpetually single virgins"—a 2024 trend where 65% of U.S. individuals have sex by age 18, yet women delaying marriage face scrutiny, like Lolo Jones (48) considering IVF or Maddie Pruitt (ex-Bachelor contestant) using virginity as virtue signaling that backfired. Utah’s Protestant churches show a 50%+ marriage rate for men by 30, but rigid standards—like prioritizing virginity over traits like humility or domestic skills—create power imbalances, with men demanding prenuptial agreements or women marrying young in arranged-like dynamics. The episode argues that virginity’s perceived value is often performative, not divine, and that compatibility matters more than outdated cultural constructs. [Automatically generated summary]
So, I have been thinking about what men used to get in the past.
Before 1970, men could expect for the most part that their wife was going to be a virgin on their wedding day.
And from 1970 to 2010, the number of women that were virgins on their wedding night dropped to 5%.
As of 2024, 65% of people in the United States have had sex at least with one person by the age of 18.
The biggest issue is that many studies have shown that the likelihood of your marriage succeeding decreases as the number of women's sexual partners goes up.
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So people that have sex before they are married are two to three times more likely to divorce than those who don't.
By their fifth wedding anniversary, only eight to ten percent of virgin couples will divorce.
Does that mean that the couples are happy?
No.
Really, it just shows that the couple isn't divorced.
Now, this article was written by a woman.
So, you know, this means that she thinks marriage is about happiness.
A different study showed that sex before marriage decreased the quality of marriage for women, but not for men.
Another study from 2010 showed that women's psychological and emotional satisfaction was increased by the lowered level of guilt that came in part from losing their virginity to someone they were emotionally involved with.
A 2016 study sought to answer this awkward question: how much sex before marriage is too much?
The answers of 200 internet participants between the age of 18 and 22 were clear.
Both men and women found it less attractive when their potential partner had previously had sex with more than 10 partners.
Two or three previous partners was highly preferred.
Now, we all know we don't watch what women say, we watch what they do on this channel.
So, a lot of times, what women do is when there's a double standard that doesn't benefit us.
So, body count is obviously a high body count for men, women don't really care about.
A high body count for women, men care about they will not date you, they will not wife you if you've had sex with too many people, and he finds out about it.
Unless you're like Adam 22, then I don't know.
But what feminists have a tendency to do is they try to make the double standard the same.
And you're going to see this from Christian feminists, from left feminists, as they try to make it the same.
We all know it's not.
I don't even need a study to tell you that it's not.
I just need to see women throwing themselves at Drake every single concert he has.
And then there's some idea that this just is a special type of ratchet woman.
Not true.
This is across socioeconomic class, culture, and race.
Individuals of both genders were more receptive to higher body counts if they had a higher body count of their own.
However, with these high numbers of previous sexual encounters, they were less tolerant of partners whose number was too small.
So, that's what the studies say.
So, let's have a conversation about virgins.
Now, it's my belief that both men and women virgins get eaten alive in the modern dating market.
Let's talk about adult virgin women.
You might think, based on all these stats, that men would want a virgin.
I would put an age limit on that.
I would say that most adult female virgins are strange to say the least.
Guys, you know what I'm talking about.
Think about adult women that are virgins that you know.
I've met enough in my life that I can narrow it down to a couple different archetypes of virgin women over, I'm going to be generous.
I think you age out at like 21, 22.
If you don't meet your high school or your college person that you're going to wait till marriage with, it's probably not going to happen for you, but I'm going to be generous and say 24.
Generally, if women are virgins over the age of 24, they like the attention of being a virgin.
Attention is currency.
If they were serious that they wanted to get married, they would go ahead and do it, but they will reject all of the suitable candidates except the ones who make six figures.
They're not tall enough.
They will say that he does not lead me to God, even though that is your own problem.
That your religion, what are you going to do if you get married and your husband passes away?
Wouldn't it then be your responsibility to lead yourself to God?
Anyways, they will keep saying that he is not holy enough and they will shame any man that even tries.
Shaming the male sex drive is super common in church culture, which is why you see a lot of men leaving the church.
They do not put up with that BS.
The adult virgin woman tends to spend their time with other single women in the church.
They will pray to God that their husband will magically come.
No work, no putting themselves in social situations, just magic.
One example that I think of is Lolo Jones, and we're going to talk about that in a little bit.
Instead of submitting to their husbands, they submit to the church elders.
What happens when you interpret the Bible one way and your husband interprets the Bible another way?
And the church elders interpret the Bible another way.
Do you trust your husband or do you listen to the church elders?
If he converts to a different religion, are you going with him?
If he decides to leave the church, will you follow him?
More often than not, especially in Protestant churches, the answer is no.
The pastor is who they are actually submitting to or the doctrine, not the man.
No man with options is going to sit and wait.
So generally, they will have little to no option.
Do you see Brad Pitt waiting till marriage?
The answer is no.
In general, most guys that have the option to not wait are not going to.
They have nothing else to bring to a man, skill-wise, and they think their virginity makes up for their attitude problem.
They bring their virginity, and that is it.
Most of the virgins do not have wifey skills and a bad attitude if they are over a certain age.
They have too much anxiety around sex and what could go wrong after they lose their virginity.
They're rooted in fear.
They want to use marriage as an escape for their relationship burden of performance.
They want the guarantee of him not leaving when in life nothing is guaranteed.
The act of giving up your virginity guarantees nothing, even if it's on your wedding night.
Christians divorce too.
Everybody has a burden of performance in marriage.
The other type of virgin that I see is asexual and socially awkward.
The next type of female virgin I see is lying.
They are not telling the truth.
They're not actually virgins.
They get around this by maybe technically being a virgin, but they've blown like five guys.
They did anal.
They did, they were fingered.
I mean, does it really count if you gave three guys blowjobs?
Let me know in the chat.
You know, you know, smart men are not going to believe you over a certain age.
Only naive men will.
No woman wants a naive guy.
I went to Catholic school and believe me, I have seen women do their workarounds firsthand.
They will do everything else and still call themselves a virgin.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
Everyone has a right to do what they want with their body.
However, over a certain age, the purity doesn't really count like it used to because there's no guarantee.
They have no relationship skills and they don't have the talent to keep an attractive man interested.
Women that are virgins have never had to deal with phase two of a relationships that have relationship that happens after sex and is important where it is important that you are likable.
Virgins think they are somehow a good person simply by the fact that they are virgins.
They don't put in the work to be a likable girlfriend.
What's better, a bitchy virgin or a nice whore?
12, they are fat or ugly.
The next, they think they're traditional because they're a virgin.
But you can't be traditional in this culture because the woman will always have the upper hand.
They want the benefit of a traditional marriage without the responsibility of being obedient to their husbands.
There's the Instagram virgins, which will settle for nothing less than a millionaire or billionaire.
They use God for clout to build a brand and to marry rich.
They have no interest in serving a man.
They would rather have a man as an accessory, not somebody to obey and start a family with.
Okay, so I pulled up some TikToks and I'm going to go through which type of virgin they are.
Here we go.
Zoom in.
My sister's really mean to me.
She says I'm a loser and I'm gross.
I'm going to die alone.
I mean, it's true.
I don't have a boyfriend and I don't want one.
All I want to do is play video games all day.
That doesn't make me a loser.
Let me play my games.
Okay, so this is a 30-year-old virgin woman who's extremely socially awkward.
There's no virtue in staying in your apartment, playing video games, and socializing with nobody.
God will not send you.
I don't know if hers is religious, right?
But God isn't going to send you a husband to your doorstep with doing no work.
So what if I'm ugly?
That just means that my goal of not getting a boyfriend will work because then I'll be free to just continue playing video games, you know?
Like, who cares if I'm a 29-year-old virgin?
I just don't like sex.
I'm asexual.
So you guys can guess in the chat, lying, asexual, super awkward.
I'd put her as a socially awkward virgin.
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Now, the next one we're going to go over.
Now, this woman I would put as either lying because she's saying she's a virgin, but her boobs are out and she has really heavy makeup.
I just don't really get modesty vibes from her.
Call me crazy, but that is my guess on this one.
Virgin has proven to be very difficult in terms of dating.
Men get scared off when they learn my truth.
They pursue me based on my physical appearance.
But then when they find out more about me, they go poof.
They dart the in the they go in the other direction.
Right.
They're scared.
Because, like you said, we live in a hookup culture.
We do instant gratification.
Our generation is just, you know, one night stands, friends with benefits, no strings attached relationships.
But I've held my ground.
A one-night stand will devastate me.
I need a man who will be there for me long term.
I'm not desperate for marriage.
I'm not desperate for a husband, but I am looking for my soulmate for companionship.
Soulmates are bust, is what I always say.
And to those out there who say, you know, there's sayings out there like, oh, don't drive a car before test driving it, all that stuff.
Yeah, don't buy it before test driving.
Exactly right.
You know, look at my social media.
I'm a dancer.
I grew up dancing, as I mentioned, and those who dance well-making abilities.
So you want to wait until marriage.
Now we got to think about this from the guy's point of view.
One in the chat if you believe that woman has done nothing, that she is 100% pure.
Let me know in the chat.
I'm going to read.
I'm going to read the chat right now.
Said, Dane says, Pearl, no such thing as a male virgin.
The idea is a product of egalitarianism to say that men who have sex the first time is giving something to a woman or that he loses something.
Think about it logically.
If a male gives his virginity to her and she gives her virginity to him, do they both still have their virginity?
Does one, do they cancel the other out?
Virginity is valued by men because of paternity and because men are territorial and protective of property.
That gives virginity value beyond simply a physical act like sneezing.
Male virginity is a creation of feminists in the Protestant churches.
That's not to say that premarital sex for men before marriage isn't a sin, but he's not losing his virginity.
What I taught my daughters was that purity and virtue were more important than the concepts of virginity, and that merely abstaining from intercourse didn't really do what scripture called women to do.
Old virgin 100%, but covered in tattoos, drinking, dressing provocatively, cussing more than a redneck who finds someone in his dear stand and they aren't doing it.
Okay, the next one we have is a 30-year-old woman.
Now, this I would put in the socially awkward category of virgin.
So, let's make sure the sound is up.
Okay.
How to find someone because I'm almost 30 years old and I never had sexual experience or anything with a man.
And people tell me that I have this masculine energy and I want to know how to get out of it.
So, here's what I always tell women: how you can start small, especially my women who are hyper-independent.
You grew up in an environment where you had to take care of yourself.
There was no one there for you to care for you, so you had to survive, right?
So, yes, right.
Living in that survival mode.
So, I say start simple.
If a man, you're going into a building, wants to open a door, let him.
Okay.
Okay.
It's going to be very hard for me.
No, no, no.
Don't let it be hard.
Let it be simple.
If you are going into a department store, if you're going to a clothing shop, you can't reach something, or a guy says, I'll help you with that to your car.
And he works in a store, allow him to.
Start small.
Work on little things.
Wear a little bit of lip gloss some days.
Put on mascara.
You don't need a full face of makeup.
With your hair down.
Put a little something.
So I've noticed with feminine, let him do things for you and put on makeup and hair.
It's never about, you know, because when you think of really feminine women, like when I think of the women I knew growing up that were the most feminine, none really cared about makeup.
None really cared about hair.
And none were really focused on what men could do for them.
They were focused on serving their community and serving the people around them.
So you guys know the feeling.
Like when you go to your grandma's house, she's got food ready.
Ours had some cookies.
It was real nice.
We're going to lost hundreds of cookies every Christmas.
Yeah.
You know, but that's what, but it's interesting because the femininity coaches, I would say, femininity at its core is selflessness, right?
It's giving up your youth for the family.
It's giving up your body for the kids.
It's giving up your free time for others.
Right.
And this is why I say, look, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm a spitting example of what that should be, but you can find examples of women that did that.
And you can tell by the way they carry themselves that it's not about makeup.
It's not about hair.
It's about giving to everyone else.
And so that's why, you know, how many commentators that, you know, virtue signal traditionalism give up their career after they have kids?
I couldn't find one.
And so again, that's why most traditionalism, especially on the internet, it's all cosplay.
You know, the real traditional women aren't really online.
And they're pretty rare.
Most are over 40.
You're not going to find many under 40.
Those are unicorns.
To shiny on a lip, put a little mascara.
Okay.
Wear bright colors.
Smile when you go out.
Talk a little bit softer.
Listen a little bit, you know, and allow them to do it.
What we know you're in the but think about what this woman's going to be like in a relationship.
So she said, No relationship experience.
Is she going to know how to be a girlfriend?
And why would a guy, you know, that you know, there's a certain age where it's really better for women to give it up.
I, you know, because how else are they going to get experience?
And I wish I could just virtue signal, right?
I wish, I wish I could just virtue signal like everyone else and say, just wait till you're married.
Well, if you're 30, that is not going to work.
Oh my God, that is not going to work.
Sorry.
Like, do I want to talk about what would be ideal or what is going to work in 2024?
No guy is going to risk, he's not going to think, you know what, let me risk this whole state taking away everything, giving you the ultimate authority, and taking your word that you're 30 and a virgin.
Now, maybe you've known him your whole life.
Okay, that's a little different.
Are there exceptions?
Sure.
But I would say that any guy that signs up for that is foolish.
He's an idiot.
And the Trad Cons can virtue signal all they want.
But, you know, I'm the one being honest.
The guys in the red pill, they're the ones being honest.
This woman, she would be better off.
She would get closer.
If her outcome is she wants to be married with children, she's got to go get some experience.
She has to, you know, hopefully with someone within a point of her league.
But yeah, let me keep going.
We know you can do all of the things.
You do enough of that at work.
Don't you want to leave a little bit of room for someone else to pick up that slack or do those little right?
Yes, I want to.
Exactly.
Exactly.
When you go out, even if you are going to the store, the grocery, wear your hair down, put a little gloss on, wear a bright color, say hello.
If you see someone, hello, how are you?
How's your day?
That is wonderful.
This could be men or women.
Start there.
Okay, let me keep going.
The next one we got.
I would put this woman as lying.
Don't believe it.
Do not believe it.
Oh my God.
I would love because you got to also look at who is the woman bed around.
Now, if the woman's been in a Protestant church where 90% of the guys are simps, I've been in one.
90% of the men, their wives run the relationship.
You ask, where do the kids go to school?
Where she wants.
Do they interpret the Bible how he wants or how she wants?
Yeah.
They're nice people, but I've lived this.
Nobody can, nobody can convince me otherwise.
Now, this woman was in Hollywood.
You're telling me nobody in Hollywood had sex with this woman.
Okay.
This is the most original guest we've ever had on.
And what are you, 39?
I am.
Oh my God.
That dam is going to break one day, baby.
And I mean, let me tell you right now, I like people were like, oh, you know, Yvonne, you're, I was like, pray for him, whoever he is.
Why is he going to break again?
I got a lot of pent-up energy up in here with me.
Oh my God.
Now, again, okay, 40.
I don't know what age.
Like, we can all disagree at what age it is, but there is an age where you will have better results if you give it up.
We could disagree on what age.
At 40, no guy is going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Zero.
Zero men that have no other choice.
That is the only guy.
He has to have zero other choices.
God, and you're going to hit your sexual peak when you start having sex.
So, yeah.
Now, remember, there is one caveat I want to make.
A couple women get away with it because they're hot enough.
But if you're not an eight or higher, it's not for you, ladies.
You're going to need a couple of men, probably.
You all went from being a virgin to polyethy.
Okay, let me get the last one.
Oh, wait, I did this one.
Okay, so let's look at an example: a track star, an Olympic athlete that is holding off on giving her virginity to her husband.
She's still not married and has no prospects as far as anyone knows.
Olympian Lolo Jones says being a 48-year-old virgin has killed her love life.
Now she's turning to IVF to become a mom.
Olympian Lolo Jones, you know, you guys think I'm making it up.
I see how this stuff played out.
I'm telling you, I would see these ladies in Protestant churches that were like 35-year-old virgins, 40-year-old virgins.
The challenge is in church, the only guys signing up, they're not going to be attracted to.
They're not.
I mean, especially at the Protestant churches.
I mean, you have like the NALA's husbands of the Protestant churches.
They'll take anything.
They're desperate, you know.
Olympian Lolo Jones revealed that being a virgin at the age of 40 has killed her love life.
Jones, a champion hurdler, and Bob Slutter, who is among the few athletes to compete in both the winter and summer Olympics, has been vocal about her virginity for years.
This is the other challenge.
Again, when they're vocal about their virginity, they're asking for attention for it.
It's not a private thing between them and God and their husband.
It's a marketing tool.
And the challenge is once they get that attention, you know, everyone clapping.
Good job.
Not saying it's a bad thing.
It's tough for them to give it up.
It's tough.
I mean, they have to say, average guy over all this attention I get.
Nah, nah.
The star athlete told the Daily Mail she's now turning to IVF and hopes to become a mother one day.
Jones has been canceled or candid about her fertility journey on Instagram, documenting what it's like to freeze your eggs.
So here we go.
For my husband for so many years, and I'm just getting back.
And I'm about to turn 40.
There's a lot of stress on me.
This is insanity.
I'm going to give my thoughts on if you're going to be a virgin and you want to wait till you're married, how I would do it.
But there's a time clock.
And remember, there's guys that'll sign up, but you will not be attracted to them.
I've seen the men that sign up.
Which is totally fine.
I'm not.
Just don't divorce him later because you're bored.
I mean, that's fine.
Sign up.
Do not divorce him later because you're bored.
Okay, let me keep going.
Let me keep going.
The only one that's going to be honest about this because everyone else is going to virtue signal.
And it's a lot easier to virtue signal.
It's way so much easier to just say, you know what, wait till you're married.
Young under the age of 22 after 22.
You might get a church simp to give you the benefit of the doubt.
But I've seen how this plays out.
I know it's all you've got to just be strong.
And what's a fight just to keep it dictated to you?
How now you think that you are too far?
We're came back normal.
Hormone levels are normal.
So we're going to pursue the process.
Aren't Christians against IVF?
Yeah, I know.
I don't know.
It's like the pick and choose.
This is how the let me.
At this point, I think she should have just been a nun.
The Catholics have a solution for this.
Look, ladies, over a certain age, it's just not for you.
You're either too much of a whore or it's just not going to happen.
Cover up forever.
Here you go.
But, you know, it's like for years, she's put all this pressure on finding this perfect husband.
And they don't help in the church because, look, when I was in high school, they would give us like chastity speakers.
And it's so crazy because if a woman does anything sexual, she was just broken.
But if a man does anything sexual, it's always like he pressured you into doing it.
I mean, some of the women pressure the men into doing it, especially the young women.
I mean, they get naked first if you see them, the way they're dressing these days.
Okay, now the Olympian called her virginity a gift I want to give my husband.
But she said that decision has not been an easy one.
There's virgins out there.
I'm going to let them know.
It's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
Harder than training for the Olympics, harder than graduating college, has been to stay a virgin until marriage.
But eight years later, during a January 2020 interview with Kevin Hart on his Coldest Ball series, Jones has said being said being so candid about her virginity was a mistake.
That killed all my dates after that.
She added, you know, yeah, because you know, men want to be the guy that you break the rules for, right?
I was going to wait, then I met this awesome guy.
Now we're in love.
It's amazing.
You're now telling everyone, not all there's Christian men that'll sign up for that.
And but you're now telling everybody that he's not the guy you're going to break the rules for.
Not only does he have to do it, which guys will, it could be a private thing between the two of you.
Now it's a public thing for everybody.
So, you know, okay, so that killed all my dates after that.
Before, at least I had a chance, but I'd like tiptoe.
Okay, when's a good time to tell him?
Do I wait until he sees my personality a bit or do I just drop the bomb?
Jones told Hart that she believed being a virgin and also put her at a disadvantage in sports.
Having sex actually helps you as an athlete, a female athlete.
So I'm running at a disadvantage.
Yeah, because when you have sex, I guess.
Okay, when Jones has had, I wonder if the biggest whores in our team were the best.
Sorry.
Okay, when Jones had an impressive career that now includes three Olympic appearances, she told the Daily Mail that she's now focusing on peaceful things in her life.
Right now, I'm currently gardening.
She says, I know it's super weird, but I'm trying to do things that are peaceful.
I tell everybody I'm on a day-by-day plan.
I'm on the Tom Brady retirement plan before he actually retired.
So now imagine a woman that wants to get married.
Look, she's going to do whatever it takes.
So let's say if she really, what she's reconciling with is she does not like men that much.
She doesn't.
She doesn't.
She wants to be single.
It's the same way a fat, you know, fat people, how they want to be fat.
They do because they like food more than they like working out and even at a calorie deficit.
Their choices show what they really want.
If she wanted to be married, your ego goes out the door.
You say, look, I'm going to download Hinge.
I'm going to start approaching men in public.
You know, I don't know if you've seen like stories of women that have hunted down NBA players, but there was a guy that came on our show that said he dated a woman.
I mean, she was a major whore.
But what we can learn from this whore is that she went for what she wanted, right?
So she wanted to sleep.
Her goal was to sleep with all the men in the NBA.
I don't know.
There was some man she wanted to sleep with, or probably multiple.
Some were married, somewhere.
She would go to the home games.
She would research the players, figure out things they like to talk about from interviews.
She would go to the games, rent a hotel.
They figured out where the players that they hung out without their wives.
Now, this woman slept with like half of it was either a hockey team or an NBA team, but she hunted the man if she wanted it.
But women are willing to hunt down men to be whores, but they're not willing to hunt down men to marry.
Isn't that crazy?
Like if she wanted to be married, okay, let's say she wants a doctor.
We could do any profession.
Any profession has groupies, right?
Corporate America, she wants CEOs.
She's attractive enough in her youth.
She probably could have got one.
Not now, obviously, ship is sales, but back then, she would have you could take a job at a coffee shop next to a hospital.
You know, I have a friend, she married a doctor and she worked for him.
And then married, I mean, now the men aren't going to do the Me Too stuff at work.
You'd probably be better off working at the coffee shop in the hospital or something.
All I'm saying is the NBA whores figured it out.
She figured out how to go to the Olympics.
If she really wanted to be married, she would have figured out how to do it.
Now, I'm going to show again, I want to show this pipeline, the old virgin to IVF pipeline.
Everyone says I'm mate.
And this is why, like, the conversations and the marketing they do where it's like, God is the answer to all your problems.
That's not a step one, step two, step three.
Like, step one, she wants to be married.
Okay.
Where does she find the single men that would be interesting?
And this woman, I mean, she was around professional athletes.
There wasn't any that were good enough.
I mean, none.
But see, you know, she's got to weigh your risk, right?
If she goes for a professional athlete, her chance of being passed is way higher, right?
I mean, those getting a professional athlete to commit, that's a lot more difficult.
They have women throwing themselves at them 24-7.
Okay, she could have went for the personal trainers that she was working with or the physical therapists.
I'm sure she worked with a lot of smart physical therapists.
They're in good shape.
Okay, she doesn't want to do that.
I'm sure she had injuries in her career.
None of the doctors that helped her when she had problems.
I worked with the none?
Okay.
Okay, well, she did sports broadcasting.
I'm sure.
Like she met some broadcasters.
None of the journalists, men, no, none of them.
I'm just saying, there was someone.
There was someone along the lines.
If she really wanted to be married, she doesn't know it.
She doesn't like, she doesn't want a relationship.
He doesn't.
Lola, you've told the Twittersphere that you're a virgin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, yeah.
I was hands were shaking when I did that.
Now, what would I give her?
Why do you say that?
Why do you want people to know that?
I mean, I just don't believe it.
My producer says I'm harsh with the ratings.
I'd give her an eight or higher.
Would you agree with that today?
Eight or higher.
See, this is an eight or higher.
This is an eight or higher.
Sorry.
I just, you know, I want to wait till I'm married to have sex.
My mom, she was my dad for 20 years.
They never got married and they're not together anymore.
So I just want that.
See, again, this is the psychology.
She thinks all she has to do is get a ring.
Then I will be married for life.
That is a, that is a, if I get the ring, now he can't leave me.
Well, legally makes it pretty tough.
But it's to get rid of the burden of performance.
I'm going to show you guys a virgin that pulled it off and she pulled it off with a billionaire.
Some do get the happy endings.
And we'll talk about the difference, okay?
They said eight or higher at 40.
If she's not 40 in this clip, all right?
This is an old one.
I want to have no, she's not a 40 now.
That's all.
Sorry, she's not an eight now.
That's just something, a gift I want to give to my husband.
So.
Wow.
But please understand this journey has been hard.
Okay, so think about this.
She's on HBO Sports.
She's getting these interviews.
She's getting all this attention for it.
Is she going to give that up?
Hell no.
No, she didn't.
I'm not.
There's virgins out there.
I'm going to let them know.
It's the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
Harder than training for the Olympics.
Harder than graduating from college has been to stay a virgin before marriage.
I've been tempted.
I've had plenty of opportunities.
I don't doubt that.
Yeah.
Well.
Now ask yourself.
I'm just objectively take religion out of this.
Please.
Please take it out of this.
Would she have been better off taking some of those opportunities and going for what she wanted?
Okay, so clearly none of the Christian men that approached her, she liked.
She didn't like them.
I'm just saying, objectively, this woman does not want to be a Christian guy.
Because if she did, so she's only attracted to the non-Christian men.
Would she have gotten what she wanted if she said, you know what?
I'm going to break the rules for this guy.
I'm going to go for it.
I'm going to give him what he wants.
I would argue, yeah.
I would argue, you know, I don't know how you could say no.
Let me see.
I'm one year out from turning 30.
I say if they're making a sequel to the thing, I would love to.
You know, I'm a little bit awkward like Steve Pearl.
I could definitely play that role.
People are going to find this very hard to believe.
It was cute.
Like when I was 22, 24, it was cute.
Like, oh, I'm a virgin.
You know, that's that's.
See, she's agreeing with me.
You age out.
That's cute.
24 through 29, it's not cute.
Like, you get judged a lot.
You know, a lot of guys won't return your calls after they find out.
Here's the two things that happen when you tell a guy you're virgin.
And this is the honest truth.
So, one, you tell them, they say, oh, okay, I respect that.
But you can already see it in their mind and in their eyes that they're like, she's lying about this, and I'll crack it.
So after we talk a month or so, or you know, usually a month to three months, then they're like, oh, shoot, she was serious.
Time for me to exit.
When I put together your whole life and what you've been through, and I'm telling you, man, or woman, they will get eaten alive in the modern dating market.
They will.
It's just not going to work.
You've had traumas and you've had this unstable existence for such a long time.
It actually makes sense to me that you want to have the kind of family that you wish you'd had as a kid.
Yeah, I just, I guess I want that Norman Rockwell picture.
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So get pre-sleep.
Okay, now we're going to fast forward 10 years.
Now, again, it would be different if she was getting the outcomes that she wanted, right?
If she was getting offers from men she found attractive to marry her that she was actually interested in and she was on that path.
But if it's not worked and she's not attracted to the Christian guys, she wants a more exciting guy than that.
I mean, it's kind of helpful to be honest with yourself about what you want.
And the guys she wanted weren't going to do it.
So it probably would have been better for her to go a different route.
Please, welcome.
I wrote you a card saying I rooted for you on the track.
I'm rooting for you on this journey.
When you look at yourself in those moments, is it out of body?
Does it feel real?
Are you like, wait a minute, am I sharing it all with these people?
I was like, what did you just do?
Like, I was, I don't know.
I think I just had a breaking point.
No, she's a bit socially awkward, but I don't think she's socially awkward enough that I would put her in the socially awkward category.
I wouldn't.
I would put her in the category of the women who use it as a marketing tool.
Blows up in their face.
It was just, I mean, you saw I'm crying.
I'm emotional.
My hair is an absolute nightmare.
Something you would never want to post.
Just like a personal video, and I was, I just, I had had enough.
I was just like, this other, after I started learning more about the process and where I'm at, I was just like, I'm sharing this because I don't want another woman to feel like they're surprised.
You know, God help us.
You know what?
I was so happy that you talked specifically about freezing eggs and the process because a lot of times you hear people say, oh, freeze your eggs.
It's not that, it's not easy.
They make it seem like you walk in, you pick up a dozen, you put them in the freezer, and then you go about your way.
You have to inject.
Someone in the chat said she wants one of those guys from rom-coms.
Well, look, she was hot enough and high-profile enough.
She probably could have dated a guy from a rom-com.
She was an eight or higher.
But look, you have to think about the men's point of view.
Because you think we got it.
Let's pretend we're a guy.
And the men she's surrounded by, surrounded herself with, they're athletes, they're high-profile people.
They're going to have women throwing themselves at them.
It's going to be a tough sell for a guy that has the choice to not wait and not wait with beautiful women and not wait with beautiful women that aren't necessarily sluts, right?
They get quality women.
It's going to be a tough sell to say, hey, wait for me now.
Could she have sold it at 22?
Sure.
29, it's getting tougher.
It's not a walk in the park.
No.
So just to put that more in a box for people, I've had spine surgery, hip surgery, shoulder surgery.
And for this just to be a procedure, it is right up there with the surgery, like pain-wise, discomfort, the amount of like recovery it took me.
So yes, it was.
How many shots a day?
Take us through the process.
And I did IVF.
Yeah, and so that's how I had my son.
Like, how, what's the process in a day for you?
Well, every woman is different.
So I only had to take two injections per day, but some women have to take more, depending on where they're at and like how many eggs they're.
She's still pretty attractive.
What do we eat?
Six.
She's four.
Oh, come on.
Under the makeup.
She's a six.
She's a six under the makeup.
I'm telling you.
Trying to get out of the way.
What are you going to give her?
My producer will sign up.
He's ready.
He doesn't care.
Love has no age.
So two is light.
I was grateful for two.
And also the days you take it depend on how fast your eggs are growing for 11 days.
Well, that's still a lot.
It's still a lot.
They think she has Asperger's in the chat.
Look, Asperger's women get married all the time.
You guys can tell me if you disagree.
I do think she's a bit socially awkward, but she's hot enough.
Well, you know, let's go with this.
Let's, for a second, I'm going to make the case.
It's the social awkwardness.
Because, you know, the guys she's selling to are at high level.
She is not trying to sell to an average guy.
She's trying to sell to the athletes around her, maybe the hosts.
Men like that are not going to be in those positions, generally speaking.
Maybe a couple athletes, but in general, unless they're somewhat socially competent, I think the men she would go for, which would be an entertainment.
Now, she would have to have the skills to keep them interested long enough that they marry her.
She's pretty attractive.
No, I still think there would have been maybe another guy that would sign up.
Yeah, I look at, I don't think that's it.
I'm going to put it, she liked the attention.
You let me know, you know.
You're getting bruised in the stomach because you're trying to rotate where you put the shots at.
You're getting bruising.
And, you know, you're hormonal.
You're injecting hormones.
I mean, the tummy thing, so I had to, you know, luckily my husband was there.
Even Johnny, this is a fun story.
I'm in the back of an Uber in Las Vegas.
I went to go see Cher and realized I needed Johnny to help me, my hairstylist, inject me because I couldn't do it myself.
And the Uber driver was like, what is going on?
He's like, what happens in Vegas?
Stays in Vegas.
But I couldn't work up the nerve and I messed up the schedule.
So my husband wasn't there and I needed someone to inject me because it was so painful.
And the idea of injecting myself, I couldn't overcome that.
So it took me a while.
I'm like, I don't even like getting shots at the doctors.
And then there's another stigma I have as being an Olympic athlete.
It's like, okay, you're injecting yourself with hormones.
Like that is like.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Pick and choose Christianity.
Okay, the next virgin I'm going to bring up is Reba Wilson.
Now, this is the virgin that was too unattractive to lose it because she was pretty fat when she was younger and then she lost weight.
When you chose to lose your virginity.
And we were so proud of you.
I wish it was an April Fool's joke.
But it's not.
It's not.
You should ask people who ever read it.
You're 35 years old.
And you kind of kept that as your secret.
You didn't want to tell anybody.
Like, you didn't tell me.
Nobody, nobody knew that about me.
And I just thought, if I'm going to write a memoir, I'm just going to put everything in it.
Why were you putting out the headline?
I guess I'd seen that movie 40-year-old virgin.
I thought, well, maybe if I lose my virginity before 40, it won't be that bad.
I'm so glad that I lost my virginity on my term, you know.
And I mean, I was more than ready by that age.
But, you know, there was like some good things about it.
I didn't have STDs in college.
Okay, we have Reba.
I'm going to guess because she Lolo chose to weigh Reba.
I'm going to guess she's married now or has a kid.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Reba Wilson.
Maybe I could be wrong.
Oh, yeah.
See?
See?
At that age, look.
Oh, my gosh.
Did she do it with a girl?
Well, I don't know.
Okay, wait, let's see.
Is she a lesbian now?
What?
Okay, I didn't get.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, that I did not guess.
I guess I was sort of right.
This is the other thing.
The ladies become lesbians when they can't keep the men that they want because they would rather be with a woman than an average man.
They do.
They do.
Very few women are straight lesbians when they're young.
They either go through a really bad breakup and then swear off men, and then they become lesbians.
Well, I don't, I guess I was technically right because I said, I bet she's married and has a kid, but I just did not technically she's still a virgin.
No, she just said she lost it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Next, we have Maddie Pruitt.
So Maddie Pruitt was a woman that went on The Bachelor.
Now, The Bachelor is a dating show where you go on with and watch a man date 20 women.
And then hopefully you win at the end and find love.
Now, Maddie Pruitt was on The Bachelor, and there were three other women that we're going to talk about.
So there was one woman who was a lawyer, her name was Kelly, and there was another girl named Hannah Ann.
Then there was Maddie.
All bombshells.
They're all eights to tens.
You know what?
Let's let's do pictures just for the just for the hell of it.
Hannah Ann.
So this is Hannah Ann at the time.
No.
You know, very, very attractive woman.
I think she's married to someone else now.
Eight to ten.
All right.
Then we got Kelly and Peter Pilot season.
So this is Peter, the guy they were all competing for.
This is Kelly, another one.
And then we have, then we have Madison Pruitt.
Yeah, so Madison Pruitt, this girl here.
And her whole thing was that she was a virgin and she's like a Christian influencer.
You guys know the type, the IG Christian.
And what's interesting is even though she was a virgin, do you know who the parents hated the most?
Her.
We're going to do, we're going to watch the mom just.
Oh my gosh, help me.
What the?
Hold on.
What the?
Where did it go?
Did they just log me out?
Okay.
I can just YouTube it again.
Madison Pruitt.
Mother.
So at the end of the season, Peter kind of was a dog.
I won't even lie to you guys.
So Peter proposed to Hannah.
Okay, wait, actually, let me give you the background.
So Maddie and Peter did a final fantasy date.
And on this final fantasy, like on the basically when there's four people left, the bachelor gets to do overnights with the women.
Before the last like four people, he dates everybody, but it's all public.
Nobody's hooking up.
Now, obviously, how many men in the chat are going to turn down an eight or higher trying to sleep with you?
Four attractive eights or higher.
There's no ugly women on this show.
And she got really pissed because he slept with someone else.
But you went on the show and the lead always sleeps with somebody else.
So she basically went on and said, I am so special and awesome that he has to turn down all these other women and exploring these other women for me.
I'm not delusional, right?
I mean, come on, what do you expect?
Peter, she break, or dinner finds out sleeps with other women.
Okay, so, and she makes it this whole dramatic scene.
Now, mind you, she's in her mid-20s at this point.
She had a boyfriend for four years in her early 20s.
Do we believe that nothing happened in that relationship now?
Again, this girl did win in the end, and I'm going to show you guys.
Some virgins do pull it off, but she's pretty attractive.
she's an eight or higher and she's not super awkward to like put myself in your shoes just don't like i don't know how to like let go of like the things that i need in a relationship like i don't want to feel like a bad person for like the standards that i have
I know, but like, I'm so proud of who I am and like the choices that I've made and like the standards that I have.
And it's been so freaking hard in this because, like, I've, I've had to look past a lot of things.
Like, no, I'm not okay with the guy that to be kissing other women.
Like, but why are you here?
Why, okay, like it's like when women date athletes and then cry about being cheated on.
That's what you signed up for, honey.
I don't know what you expected.
Or celebrity men.
I mean, like when Brianna Chicken Fry was crying about getting cheated on, what did you expect?
He's obviously going to cheat on you.
So, you're going to go on a show where you sign up, read the rules.
It says, I'm going to date 18 women.
Every other bachelor has slept with multiple women during fantasy suites.
I mean, men don't even know if they like you till they sleep with you.
Post-net clarity is a real thing for the fellas.
So, you know, he's not a religious guy.
You know, I mean, it's one thing if he's a reli.
This is the modern dating.
Anyways.
And I've gone here and I've gotten to this place and it's like I've sacrificed a lot and I've compromised a lot and I've really pushed myself in a lot of ways that I wouldn't normally for anybody else.
But you're worth it.
And I'm fighting and I'm still fighting.
This is one thing that I, that's why I voiced it to you.
Now again, this is a play victim.
It works very well, especially when the woman's very attractive, right?
I got no sympathy.
Not over here.
Not me.
She dumps him, essentially.
Not for me.
Okay, it's this whole dramatic scene.
I'm not going to watch it.
Now, now, Peter then, she dumps him.
Now, Peter proposes to Hannah Ann.
You're telling me he was supposed to not hook up with this girl?
Hold on.
I know when I had to give out that first impression, Rose.
It was never a question for me of who that was going to.
And then from all the memories that we've been able to make, I cherished every single moment I've been able to spend with you.
Said, Pearl, you're like a four.
I know.
I know.
I don't get cast on these shows.
Your life outcomes.
They tell you.
These are eights or higher.
They ain't to work.
Fall on my heart.
This whole dramatic thing.
So, Madison.
She actually left two days ago.
And I am.
Your beautiful spirit is honestly like anything I've ever seen before.
You're thoughtful.
You're caring.
You're selfless.
You're passionate.
And above all else, you're one of your kind.
My heart chooses you forever.
Okay, now he's about, he proposes, whatever.
Anyway, so then he dumps her.
So he does his whole thing, you know.
Dumps her, then gets back with the Christian girl.
So he gets back with Maddie.
And Peter's mom, now we all know as mothers, whose mother is protective of them?
Do you know what I mean?
As a mother, you want what's best for your son.
Maybe not your daughter.
You got the competing thing, but especially if your son's a stud.
Do you know what I mean?
Like if your son, like every woman's dream is to have a just Chad son.
Every woman, any woman that says no is lying.
So then Peter, Maddie Pruitt, mother.
It was hilarious.
So even though she's virtue signaling, doing all the Christian stuff, the mom doesn't care.
The mom says, look it.
I liked that Instagram hoe over there way better than you, lady.
You did this.
Let me show you.
This was in Bachelor.
The Bachelor fans, they know this was a big deal at the time.
Madison, and it started on a rocky road because she had us wait three hours for her to come in to she didn't want to meet us.
So we were there three hours.
We had just come across the country.
I mean, excuse me, across the world.
And we were exhausted and, you know, we were just, you know, just getting used to the time there.
And we had to wait three hours.
And when she did come in, the whole family, you know, we didn't get an apology from her.
And when I proceeded to ask her if she was madly in love with my son, she said no, and that she would not accept a proposal in four days.
So how do you expect a mother who loves her son with all of her heart to take that?
I couldn't, my whole family, my son, Jack, my, and as a mother, that, you know, wasn't what we were expecting.
And therefore, when I said that I wanted Hannah Ann so badly was because I knew that she's just the feast to us.
We just clicked right away.
We did not have, unfortunately, we did not have the connection with Madison.
I know that their biggest worry and their biggest concern was just that you weren't there with me the way I was there with you.
And, you know, I know back in Australia, we were.
Now, does she, A, take accountability and say, yeah, that was pretty rude?
That's pretty rude.
It's pretty rude.
But confused, we were going through stuff.
But I can tell you guys that I know how she feels for me.
And they broke up.
I know how I feel for her.
And, you know, I just ask that you guys can give her that chance and trust me.
And, you know, this is someone that I love and I fell in love with.
So again, she thought, well, I'm a virgin, so I don't have to be likable.
I don't have to.
I can signal my purity.
I can do this.
Like, imagine.
You're talking about how he is the immoral one because he slept with a bombshell.
I mean, can we just be realistic here, ladies?
Everyone's boyfriend, husband, whatever is going to fold.
You know, it's easy to say that your husband would never do that when he doesn't have women that look like that interested.
Just like it's easy to say that my wife won't leave me when she doesn't have better men available.
You're like, oh, my overweight four wife, she's just never going to leave.
Well, nobody's trying to take her.
It's the same thing with, you know, it's easy to say, it's easy to judge a guy for sleeping with a model when nobody that's a model is trying to sleep with your boyfriend.
You know, we could agree, nine, that last girl that he proposed to, am I, are we going to agree?
Not nine?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He's saying, he's saying I'm too harsh.
I'm just, I'm checking in.
No, it's definitely at least a nine.
Yeah, at least tonight, she looked perfect.
The bass was to be expected.
Yeah, so he's going to do it.
You're putting them together in a room with production outside ready to film you if you leave.
He's doing it.
Sorry.
And she's going to virtue signal at the least, you know, and she can't go and say hello to the parents.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
Totally understand your position.
You just want what's best for your kids, as I do.
The whole family does, Chris.
Earlier, Peter said when we were with Hannah Ann, showing the show, he said, I gave my heart to two people.
At that place, one only gave his heart to him.
And that was Hannah Ann.
So to me, of course, my love went to Hannah Ann because anyone that loves your child or your son, your daughter, love them dearly.
I think this isn't just Peter's journey.
You know, when you sign up to come on a show like this, you're looking for love too.
Where was the humility?
Where was the don't you?
You would agree that that's pretty rude.
That you could apologize for that.
You could say, look, I was wrong.
This wasn't just Peter looking for his wife.
I totally understand.
You know, as a mother.
As a mother, like you are going to obviously, you know, be thinking about Peter.
But also, this is my journey too.
And this isn't just Peter choosing me.
Ladies, just so you know, if a guy looks like this, he has women like this available and like 20 of them.
Just so you know.
This is me choosing Peter and yeah, she just, what did she do?
it about me.
I hope to be like this one day with my son.
I'll kill, yeah, that I would do the same thing.
I think it is important that you guys find your space and find your love, but obviously, family is important, it's massively important.
Yeah, all the women on this, I said eight or higher.
They could all do live off of their looks.
They're all pregnant now.
So, why rich men, all of them, Barb, how do we turn the page?
And actually, I think Kelly might not be.
Sorry, sorry, guys.
This is a shot together.
Chris, he's gonna have to fail to succeed.
Chris, all his friends, all his friends, all his family, everyone that knows him knows that it's it's not, you know, it's not gonna work.
So, we've been trying to help him.
Would we want it to work?
Barb was right.
So, then I just want to tell you guys the plot twist.
So, they end up breaking up and he goes and dates contestant number six.
There was another girl named Kelly.
Peter, they broke up too eventually.
I mean, he's a stud.
Look at, I mean, this is the thing we gotta, we gotta think about choices and trade-offs.
You can go for a guy with no options or few options, and your chance of getting dumped is like zero.
Or you can go for the guy you have the hots for, and he can replace you.
Look at all of these, she's probably the least attractive of the three, but she's still, yeah, now she would run if she saw him again.
We doubt it.
If you're going on a podcast about him, you still, you know, honestly, I'm doing really good.
The exes that women complain about are always our favorite exes.
I just want you guys to know those are always the favorites.
The ones that we don't complain about, like the ones we say, oh, he was so great, we didn't like him.
We didn't.
So, I'm sorry, if your ex says you're a nice guy and you were so awesome, she didn't like you.
She went to go find up Peter Weber.
Sorry, sorry, fellas.
I'm extremely happy.
Um, it feels so good to be able to say that.
I am very, very happy.
Yeah, so now that's where he ended up.
They stayed together for like two years, so it wasn't a complete loss, right?
But that was, I guess, the best match because the other ones lasted like three months each.
You know, you got to go a little uglier than you as a guy, like a little bit down to make they got it, they got to be happy to be there.
You know, it never works when the woman's better looking than the guy.
Divorce, divorce.
Okay, so there we go.
Let me continue now.
We got Madison Pruitt.
We're going to keep following her.
Oh, wait, they broke up.
Oh, wait, we saw that.
Okay.
Now, Madison Pruitt, what did she do?
Did she settle for a godly man?
I mean, maybe.
She then went on to date a billionaire son.
Never settle for any normal guy.
It is always worth millions.
And in this case, billions of dollars.
And now, so this is a case of the Instagram Christian where they're now going to use their.
So one, she broke up with the pilot Peter guy, then she dated a couple athletes, then sold to this guy that she was still a virgin.
I mean, you guys can see, like, I mean, she was like 27.
No, again, but she did sell it.
She did, but she had to go down in looks, right?
He's still attractive.
I'm not saying he's unattractive, like good-looking guy, but who's better looking?
Who's the you know, that's out of order?
The guy's got to be the here.
Have to tell me, and she did.
So she can't lie.
She's an honest person, and she came.
Yeah, and so now they do the whole Christian marketing thing.
And he's got to live a life of using his relationship for brand.
Good luck.
Anyways, now let's see what else we got.
Now, the thing is, the Christian influencer, Christian, one, they use the religion for clout.
And if they could not virtue signal, they would not be Christian.
They wouldn't.
If they could not market and profit off of it and use it for social media, they would not be there.
And they will only accept hundreds of billions of dollars.
Now, I think that's, I think that's all we got for today.
Now we're going to do, I'm going to message the woman that called in yesterday.
OK, you now I also am going to go back through my PowerPoint that I made to kind of give a little bit of I want to make my points a little bit more clear because I think pictures do a little bit better in this kind of thing.
Oh, no, I did the wrong one.
Where is it?
Oh.
Yeah, here we go.
So I made this the other day, the God economy for a different show, but I just thought it worked really well.
So we have the God economy.
Now, these are the players you tend to see at churches.
Now, I want to differentiate modern, oh, wait, modern and traditional dating.
Now, remember, traditional dating, if you go back in history, it was always standard to have an arranged marriage.
The families would know each other, they would set each other up, and that was how you would meet.
You didn't really have a ton of choice.
I mean, I'm sure your parent, your dad wouldn't put a gun to your head and say, you gotta do it.
Although, in some countries, but you know, in general, maybe he would say, okay, what about him?
She'd say no.
And he'd say, you're so superficial, daughter, him.
And then he would say, okay, if you say no, you won't get my inheritance.
You can go for that drug dealer over there.
I don't know.
What would the drug dealer be of the 1600s?
Would there be drug dealers back then?
We got to think about this.
But I don't know.
The what?
Yeah, the petty thieves.
He said, you can go with the petty thief, but you're not getting any of my inheritance.
And the woman would think, you know what I mean?
This back then, this forced women to cash out on their youth faster.
It wasn't like the women of the past wouldn't have done the same thing.
But, I mean, do you, okay, let's just think.
Knowing how we are as ladies, where we love attention, you don't think that the women of the past would have done the same thing.
No, of course they would.
If they could go be celebrity worshiped and be a Christian speaker, they totally would have did it.
Who wouldn't?
But, but back then, that was the norm.
So, modern dating, meet online at school, at a bar, or in a social setting, mostly online now.
Now, There is a little bit of discrepancies on where, if you met online at school, at a bar, a social setting, but have sex within three dates.
I'm going to give you guys three months max when you're younger.
But yeah, you got three dates because the men, this is a problem.
The men have wasted too much time.
You know, men see their time as money.
And they have put, you know, it's not like they're trying to do prostitution here.
Like they know, they want you to want to be there.
But they've just figured out that, look, if they don't have sex within three dates, they don't like me.
They're going to, they're going to string me.
She's going to string me along for three months.
And I'm sorry, none of you are hot enough for this anymore.
If I'm not getting sex out of this, I'm not doing it.
Now, then the situationship for a couple of months.
Up to a year.
Some men will say, you know what, you got to wait a year.
If you stick around a year, then you can be mine.
Because, you know, the men have had problems where they brought a woman into their social circle, right?
Men are very solution-oriented.
So they've brought a woman into their social circle and she ruins his life.
You know, they break up.
She decides to talk bad about him.
And the thing is, the more she likes you, the more she's going to do this.
Again, if she says, you were such a great guy, I bet she dumped you.
I bet she did.
Sorry, fellas.
Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm just being honest here.
So situationship.
Now, how long a situationship is going to be is how long he's been hurt.
So if he's naive, he hasn't had that many relationships.
He's going to, he might ask you for commitment.
But the more BS he's dealt with, the more he's dated, the longer that vetting period's going to be.
I've heard men say years.
I mean, now people get, you have to give a kid first for certain men.
Now, the average right now is to a three-year relationship.
Because again, you know, men are, it's not like they don't want to get married and have a family.
They do, but they just want to do it without having their life ruined.
So they keep thinking of ways to circumvent this.
They think, okay.
Now, again, the men that have never participated in this, that don't have a lot of dating experience, they're not, they're naive, right?
They, they haven't participated.
If he can't remember the last like date he's gone on, like he's not really participating, right?
Same with women, you know, the same with the virgins.
They don't really know what's going on.
But the men that have dated, the more they've been hurt or been burned, the more they're going to up that waiting period.
And so a strategy of women is when they get burned to go for a guy that hasn't been burned in order because he's going to be naive.
He's not going to make them jump through.
He's not going to make her do anything.
He's going to be like, ah, it's been three months since I've had sex.
Please be my girlfriend.
Please.
You know, so this is going to depend.
Next, they get married.
Now, again, the more experience a guy has, the more hoops he's going to make you go through.
So he's going to say prenup.
He's going to say whatever.
Then he's going to have one to two kids.
And the average divorce is after eight years.
That's modern dating.
Now, traditional dating is arranged.
The families know each other.
The families pick who he's going to marry, right?
Do you marry young before 25?
You have kids.
You know, the woman has kids before she goes to school.
Four plus kids listens to her husband, believes God, men, women, children.
The closer you are to that, the more traditional I'd say.
Now, the challenge is in traditional dating in 2024.
It's tough for it to be real because the woman always has the upper hand, always 100% of the time.
Because no church is going to be able to outpray the state.
You just can't.
If she decides tomorrow, she wants to divorce, she's got it.
So, damn, Pearl, you're talking about my past.
I listen.
I listen to the good.
How do you think I come up with this?
You think I make this up?
I take feedback from the experiences of many men, right?
And I read the experiences they have in dating.
I've also, you know, I've dated myself.
So I've seen, I can tell how damaged a guy is by talking to him.
And the more damaged he is, I'm telling you, the longer he's going to make you go through more hoops.
So this is more so in Protestant churches, but this dynamic is everywhere.
The 80-20 rule applies.
We have the pastors, guys in the bands.
These are the pimps in church.
They sleep with, I mean, everyone knows the guy that virtue signals God, but he's sleeping with everybody.
I'll tell you the story.
There's a guy that came on my show and the whole show, he was talking about how cheating was wrong, right?
And how degeneracy is awful.
This red pilled me so much.
He was sleeping with three women on the show, three, because the women would talk to me.
And I'm like, did he?
And I never want to be a jerk.
Like, I'm never going to say names.
I'm never going to call anyone out.
But it's, do you know what's like arguing that all men cheat and knowing something about somebody and not being able to use it because I'm not an asshole?
Do you know, because we're debating, we're saying the cheating thing, you know.
Do you know what that's like for me?
I can't, whatever.
So then you have the future hoes.
Again, I don't know these women personally.
I'm not saying they'll actually do it, but I'm saying these are, we're going to pretend these are the archetypes.
So these are the women that obviously don't listen, obey, listen to their husband.
They back talk, you know, they back talk to their husband.
They clearly do not like the husband, but they married young.
They're kind of resentful.
They missed out and they'll divorce him at 35.
Then there's the born-again virgins.
These are the women that do the rebrand.
And, you know, we got Nala, right?
We got the Nalas in church.
Only fan.
Only fans to Jesus.
We got that pipeline.
Pearl, why don't you try to be an eight?
Yeah, let me talk to my parents.
Do you want me?
Let me should I call my parents and say, why wasn't I born an eight?
I shouldn't have to work.
I should have been offered a billionaire like these ladies.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Okay.
Then we got the simp.
So obviously this is Crowder.
He was the simp.
His wife divorced him.
She was the Karen and she took everything, ruined his life.
Then, so then you have the church elder simps.
So these are the church elders that will back anything the woman says up.
So if the guy's watching porn, they'll say, oh, what an evil man.
And they'll never ask if the wife's sleeping with the husband.
So they'll be like, and they'll be like, wait, she hasn't slept with me.
And he's like, well, you probably should have made her want to sleep with you.
And he's like, huh?
You know, these are the simps.
These will defend women at all costs.
Prodigal daughter theme, they found Christ, but can never check if it's genuine.
There's no barrier to entry.
Simps, they make money off of Jesus and conversion stories.
Sure, that's genuine.
I don't believe them.
And then they yell at Pearl.
Do you know what I mean?
Then we got the Karens.
So, these are the women that will talk about degeneracy, yellow men for watching porn.
They always shame the male sex drive, and they always give women every benefit of the doubt ever, ever.
And they just, and they usually divorce their husbands later because it's very obvious who runs the relationship, right?
It's very obvious because they always talk first, they're always the center of attention.
I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
I'm a talker, too.
You know what I mean?
But it's just obvious.
It's just obvious who runs the relationship.
Then there's the occasional couple that makes it, and they have no idea what's going on.
They're like, What?
What do you mean you're in a sexless marriage?
That does not happen.
They're like, She didn't do OnlyFans.
No way.
So these are the clueless, right?
So, like, Tucker Carlson and his wife, they met in high school.
So, I mean, they don't know what's going on.
They're like, get married, do it.
And the other guys are like, this is what's on the market, the NALAs.
And they're like, well, just find a good woman.
It's not that hard.
And they're like, ah, oh, wait, no.
What?
No.
What did I do?
How do I go back?
I'll reset.
I don't think that worked.
Okay, I'll just refresh it.
Go back to Google Slides.
I just like to give, you know, people say I make it up, but it's like then a story comes out every year that proves my point.
Every year.
Now, again, if they really cared about Jesus, they, you know, they would make sure that the people that were speaking were genuine so that it doesn't deter people from church, but they don't care.
So the ghan economy, the pastor's often hooking up with the born-again hoes.
That's why he wants him in church.
The Karen and the simps are shaving men's behavior while giving women a pass.
The simp church elders take women's side for everything and tell women they are amazing and simp for eternity.
And the simps and the born-again hoes find each other when divorce when divorce calls, she calls him abusive and the church will take her side.
This is something that they made of all the tradcon women half naked.
I don't know.
Someone, Glenn, sent this to me.
Anyway, so, you know, I love it when women call, will message and say they want to come on the show because I, you know, I think it's important that we have conversations with people, you know.
And there was a woman that messaged me that said, I don't remember, so please, if I'm misquoting you, you know, forgive me.
It was something like, I'm the exception, or I'm the girl that waited till I was later to, I waited till marriage.
And I thought, hey, come in, let's talk about it.
Welcome to the show.
Your name is Hannah, right?
Yes, ma'am.
You know, we have the same first name.
Do we?
Did you pearl your middle name?
Yeah.
I there was when I went on the internet, there was a Hannah Davis and it was a supermodel.
It was Derek Jeter's wife.
And I just was like, I need to be at the top of Google.
And I just, I don't want to be next.
I'm going to do Pearl.
It makes sense.
So where are you calling out of?
I'm in Ogden, Utah.
No way.
Are you Mormon?
I'm not Mormon.
I knew that was going to be a question.
Not LDS.
I am an evangelical conservative Christian.
Okay.
Which is odd in Utah, but that's where I'm at.
Okay.
Yeah, a little bit about me.
I grew up, I'm the oldest of five, was homeschooled in a rural area in Montana.
I went to like purity conferences.
I wasn't allowed to date in high school.
And a lot of my friends got married right out of high school.
And I kind of felt pulled between getting married and then like wanting to have a career.
And so I moved to Chicago when I was 18 and went to a Bible school and didn't really date much at all in those four years.
A lot of that, I would have said that I had a lot of like culture shock moving to the city and was just trying to figure out how to interact with like, and then I moved back to Montana when I was done with school and there were just no guys there.
I was in like a very small church in the mountains.
And so I moved to Denver to go to grad school, but intentionally was like, okay, I need to find someone and I need to go to a place where there were more options.
And I found Denver to be a very hard place to date.
I went out, I was on Hinge a couple times.
I went out with a few guys.
And those relationships lasted like a couple of weeks.
Like I had a pretty strict, I was vetting people pretty strictly.
And then I met my husband.
He was living in Utah and put his Hinge location in Denver.
And we talked for three hours our first date.
And I knew I was probably going to marry him.
And I moved to Utah seven months later and we got engaged and we've been married a year.
So and he was also a virgin when we got married and had dated like two or three times.
But he was like my first kiss, first person I held hands with.
Like, oh, wow.
So you were, you were a real one.
Yeah, which is funny because I read your post.
I was like, hey, I really agree with you.
But also, like, that wasn't my experience.
And I do know like plenty of other, like, a lot of my friends were in the same situation as me.
Some of them got married a little bit younger.
And I wish I would have gotten married younger.
I tell my sister, she's 19.
I'm going to get married right now, get married young because it's just way easier.
But this is, this was my experience.
So.
So, question.
So what age were you when you met your husband?
You were 26, it sounds like 27.
I was 28.
Okay.
And what?
And what was, so in your early 20s, like what happened?
Were men not asking you out?
I mean, you're Chicago is such a big city and you're a pretty girl.
So I just find it hard to believe that men weren't trying, you know?
Yeah, I would say I had a lot of like guards up and had a lot of, I was dealing with a lot of anxiety.
I went on one date.
I think I had two people ask me out in like my four years of college.
I also, I was in the Midwest and I really didn't want to stay in the Midwest.
And so like a lot of these guys were like, they're setting you become like a pastor in Illinois.
And I was very much focused on going back to Montana and I wanted to be in the mountains.
And I would say it's funny.
A lot of people, a lot of my good friends back then were like, yeah, you kind of like put up some walls and guys could tell that you had walls up.
And I realized that in my early 20s after I was done with college and realized that I had to make some shifts if I was going to meet someone.
And so that was like my time in Denver.
Was like, I was like, I'm just going to go out with a guy I go out with because I was picky.
So yeah.
Would it be fair?
Would it be fair to say in your early 20s, it wasn't a priority to be in a relationship?
I would say I really wanted to be in a relationship.
I had like crushes on guys all the time.
I just was like, I was not confident.
I think a confidence was a big issue.
And I didn't, I felt safer to be in friendships with girls.
Like, I didn't really have a lot of like guy friendships and I didn't really know how to interact with men in general.
So, um, I guess, but when like later in the story, you just sounded like you were on a mission more to find a husband and that was your priority.
And I'd say your actions sort of matched.
So it just seems like in your early 20s, that wasn't a like, is that fair to say?
Yeah.
You know, yeah, I would say so.
Like, it was funny.
I was like given a book when I turned 18 for my graduation on like becoming like a helpmate and I threw it away.
No way.
Because it like it bothered me.
And then, and I was like the girl that was like, I'm going to go to school and y'all are going to get married.
Yeah.
And you know, years later, I was like, wow, like my best friend's pregnant with her fourth baby and like happily married.
And I was like, I just wish, I wish I hadn't believed a lot of lies or felt like I had to do something different when, you know, her life is just as fruitful.
And yeah, so I think I had to like come to terms with that, which is why I encourage people to get married younger because I think it's just easier.
But yeah, I would say like by the time I was in my mid-20s, I was like, I have to take this really seriously.
Yeah.
And the only way to meet people now is really online.
And it was like 2020 too when I had that, had that decision making process too.
No, I mean, you know, that's how people are meeting.
So it makes sense.
Like, I don't think there's any shame in it.
No, I don't think so anymore.
I think there was.
Like when I was in college, my friends and I created a farmer's only account as like a joke, you know, and it was like, when I turn 30, that's when I'll go on online dating.
And then it kind of, yeah, well, you had to, it sounds like you had to swallow a bit of pride, right?
Because it's almost like the ego of, no, I don't want to go online, but then, you know, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So why do you think that you believed it?
Were your parents, you were homeschooled?
So why did you, did you feel like, did they shove it down your throat?
Like, what made you believe the feminism lie instead of like the helpmate book?
Yeah.
So my mom was a nurse and she quit her nursing career to like stay home.
My dad, she never wanted a homeschool.
My dad asked her to homeschool and she did it.
And she was awesome.
She homeschooled 24 years.
And she always talks about how her greatest regret was losing her nursing license.
And so both my parents would have said, like, we want you to do what God wants you to do.
You know, like that was kind of what they said.
But underneath, I did feel like there was a pressure for me to be able to like take care of myself and have a job.
And so I think that was also prioritized as well as just like people are like, oh, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
And it wasn't enough to just be like, I want to be a mom and I want to stay home and like raise babies and cook and clean.
And so it's funny now too, because I got a master's degree in clinical mental health and I practiced for eight months and I quit in May.
And now I work part-time teaching piano and I like make dinner for my husband who comes home.
And I'm like way more happy and way happier and content.
And I'm like, well, I like wasted a lot of time going to school to do now what I actually want to do and hopefully start a family as soon as possible.
But yeah.
So I think it was lies and some pride.
And then I think there was just some fear.
Some ways, it was just easier to do whatever I wanted to do, versus like realizing like marriage is a sacrifice and learning to like give up my, my dreams or things that I wanted to do for the sake of someone else.
Um, and I think when you're 20 that seems a lot more daunting than now.
Later i'm like, well, that was kind of fun, but not really like yeah, I could go back again.
It was like all the times being single or going to parties or being able to watch whatever I want on TV isn't actually that worth it?
So you mentioned your friends from you.
Was that like a community?
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say about 70% of the people I went, well, I say I went to high school with, but like did life with all got married pretty quickly out of high school and are still there and have families.
And you're around 30 years old, 29?
30.
30.
Okay.
And none of them have gotten divorced?
No.
There was one crazy girl and she got married and she want he, she didn't want kids and he wanted kids and they split up.
She was a few years younger me than me, but yeah, she was the only one that I know of.
So they've all been married like seven years-ish now?
Six, ten.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Some friends 10 to 12 years.
I grew up in like my dad's family.
He's one of five.
And then there's 15 grandkids and there's one divorce out of all the couples.
So are they done having kids or are they still having them?
Because you can tell.
I just know because I follow this stuff.
You can tell when the youngest kid's around five, if they stay together, they don't.
So I'm just wondering if they've made it past that or not yet.
Not wishing either way.
I'm just wondering.
No, like my one of my best friends, she's about to have her fourth baby and they wanted six.
And now she's going to like take a break.
She was married, I was in college.
It was like 2013.
It was like 10 or 11 years.
So 2014.
And are the parents part of the vetting process where you're from?
Like, was your dad a part of vetting your husband?
How did that work?
Yeah, that's been an interesting conversation.
My dad talked strictly.
Like he's, you know, kind of like the joke about the shotgun dad on the front porch, but he actually really wasn't.
Like, I probably could have gotten away with dating in high school, but I was, he said no.
And I was a role follower.
And I was like, okay, I'm just not, I'm not going to date.
And he and my mom were best, like, they were good friends.
And then they just got married.
Like, they didn't really date in like the early 90s, late 80s.
And so he always made it clear though that he wanted the man to ask him before he dated me.
And so my husband did that.
Like we had known each other two weeks and he called my dad.
And that was, that made a really good impression on my dad.
And I was just really thankful that he wanted to incorporate my family.
I would say like the courtship model was used a lot more often when I was in high school.
It just gets weird when you're older and you live in a different state and you're like, I don't know, like I'm still making, I'm making no independent decisions without him.
And so ideally, I feel like that's what should happen.
He asked my dad if he can marry me.
So yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you would do a traditional model completely in your mid-20s.
That's good luck.
I was just curious if your friends that married younger, if the parents like knew each other, were they from the hometown?
Did they meet in college?
I'm just wondering if your friends, where did they meet?
Yeah, some of them were high school sweethearts.
Like they met a youth group in church and then they got married right away out of high school.
Um, my friend, my best friend, got she and her husband were both homeschooled at the same time, but they never met.
And like he walked into her coffee shop and she was a barista and he started flirting with her, and they were married like a year later.
Um, so I would say like connections with churches.
Um, I her family wasn't super involved, um, but his was.
Um, I think it just, yeah, it just kind of depended on the couple.
Um, but yeah, for sure.
And did most of them wait till they were married too on both ends?
Like, if you had to guess a percentage, obviously, that's personal and you'll never really know, but if you, you know, it's not like you're there, right?
But if you had to guess, uh, yeah, I would say like 70%.
Wow, that's really high.
Yeah, wow, that would be my guess based on like the based on my chat's gonna want to go find their virgin bride there and go move to Montana.
They're like, where is this?
Although, by the time I got them back after four years, I was like, Oh, there's not as many options as there was when I was 15.
So they're asking why you didn't date anyone in the town.
Was there no one you liked in like high school or anything?
There were guys I liked, but I didn't.
I just was like, I knew I was going to go to college and I was like, it's going to be a waste of my time to date if I'm not going to get married.
Like, I knew that dating was meant for marriage and I didn't want to waste my time or someone else's time.
And so that was why I didn't date.
And I wasn't really allowed to.
If I had been 18 and I had stayed home, that would have been fine.
But I left pretty quickly.
And then by the time I came back, I was 22.
And there were just not, there are not as many options.
They wanted.
Yeah, I think I went on like one or maybe one or two dates.
So.
Did you have any debt from getting your master's at all?
I actually didn't.
Wow.
You're like a unicorn.
No debt.
That was the first thing my husband asked me on her date.
That's what the chats.
That's how men think.
That's what the chats say.
They're like, did she have debt?
Did she have debt?
Yeah, no, that's a good question.
No, he asked every hard question to like, he said like shocking things to roll me out.
So if I was, yeah, not an option.
No, I had a grandfather who left a trust fund.
Like going back, I'm like, I would have taken that cash over the degree and like buy a house with that money instead.
But no, no debt.
Thankfully.
And have you, did you watch the archetypes I was talking about of virgins?
You said you kind of agreed, didn't agree.
Like, what was your, what was your thought?
If 70% are virgins, you can, you can let me know if I'm off.
No, I agreed with you.
I just was like, man, I really live in a bubble.
Like, I, I go to a, a more, I go to like a patriarchal style church.
So most of these women are like, no one goes, none of their kids go to public school.
We're like baking bread.
You know, we're reading like literature books and book clubs.
And so I just realized how much of a bubble I was in.
Because it's not that I didn't, it's not that I disagreed with you because I did go to grad school and I did see more of that.
I just, I just was kind of shocked.
And I was like, oh, I'm kind of weird.
Yeah.
The what?
So you said it's a patriarchal church.
How do they deal with, is there ever divorces in it?
And how do they deal with it?
Because I'd imagine it can't be 100% divorce-free, right?
There has to be at least one.
I have not been there since I've been there over a year, and there haven't been any divorces, as far as I know.
They're not completely against divorce.
I think it depends on the situation.
So I think some of the issues that we're seeing in terms of like, like you're talking about, like the women Instagram, like purity, like the culture.
A lot of most modern evangelicals have like a complementarian or egalitarian view of gender roles.
And complementarian was like a term created after like the sexual revolution to basically be like, we don't really, we kind of believe in male headship, but we can't really use the word patriarchal.
And so we're just going to be like, men and women are equal before God, but like complement each other.
And so what happens is like my parents would be like, okay, my mom's going to submit to my dad.
And, you know, there shouldn't be women pastors, but it's not really extended beyond that.
Where my husband and I have like pretty clear views is like, I think that like me being a woman, I have like duties as a woman and he has duties as a man.
And that involves what we do in our home, but also what happens in the church.
And so I'm thankful for a church too that like if something were to happen between us, there's like accountability because we took membership vows.
And so they're like just as hard on women as they are on men in terms of like sin issues and know that like women tend to struggle with different sins than men do.
And we're going to call those out equally.
So you went to a different church like in your home, like it was a different type of church.
It wasn't as patriarchal, you're saying it's funny because I would say my parents lived out pretty patriarchal marriage.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't say that they wouldn't have used that language.
Yeah.
And we would, we, we use that language.
Well, it's kind of provocative, but I think it makes a point because I would like to separate myself probably from the rest of like modern evangelical culture and saying that no men and women are different and that I, in my marriage, I have a duty to my husband.
We're not just like pals and we're just going to like get along and be like buddy buddy.
Like, no, he's like expecting me to make him dinner and like wash his clothes.
And that's like a way that I can serve and sacrifice for him as he's like driving to work every day and putting food on our table.
And so were there, were there divorces in the church before?
Was going to be my question.
I'm just wondering how they handled them in that church and like your hometown.
In my hometown, well, I went to like a larger like Southern Baptist church and they did not handle divorce super well.
That's different than the church I'm attending now.
I've kind of, I shifted denominationally and have gone more reformed.
What do you mean they didn't handle it very well?
Like, what do you?
I mean, I would just say there was like no accountability.
It was like, oh, you got divorced.
That's a bummer.
Where if I, if I cheated and my husband went to the elders, I would go under church discipline.
And if I didn't repent, I would be excommunicated.
And there would be consequences for my actions.
And churches just don't do church discipline anymore.
So, would he have to?
Could he divorce you on those grounds in your church?
Oh, yeah.
He could.
And they would be okay with that.
Yeah, I would think so.
I, especially if I wasn't, if I repented and wanted to work it out, and there was like clear signs of me repenting, there probably would be like a trial period.
That would be my guess.
Yeah.
I know that they have, I knew, I know they've excommunicated people in the past, but there was no repentance.
Like, the people just kind of left.
And I would assume that would happen to like most like evangelical women who are cheating.
Like, they don't want to be accountable.
And it's easy to hide in a big church where you just see the pastor on a screen versus being accountable to an elder who calls you once a week to see how you're doing.
And if you're if your husband wanted you to switch churches, would you do it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the other question: what do you think of Nala?
Did you see Nala at all?
I did see Nala.
I don't know.
I really want to give the benefit of the doubt and like pray.
I believe that like the Lord can change people's hearts and that the Holy Spirit can transform people.
I and I do realize that like when you have a past, there's like things that you're gonna struggle with.
I think more of my issue is I would have wanted to see her just take a break from social media and like figure out all of her stuff before posting things on social media.
It felt more like she's trying to get attention rather than pursue purity or holiness and figure out her relationship with God.
So that would be my quick take on that.
Okay.
I agree.
I agree.
I would like to see her put on a bra, but I don't know.
That's my two cents.
I think that's all my questions I have.
Do you have any other thoughts on the topic?
They're going to want to know this church they can go to to find their virgin.
Actually, I have one more I just thought of.
What percent of the women in the church would you say are marrying under 25 in the church you're at?
That's hard because I know a lot of people who, okay, I'll give you this.
My husband and I hosted a singles mixer at our church.
People from other places around the country came.
We had 80 single people.
Yeah, no one can escape it, huh?
Between 80 and 46 came.
A lot of the people, some of them are people from our church have moved there like in the last two years.
So I'm not exactly sure how old they were when they got married, but like our pat, the majority of our pastors and their wives got married at like 19, 20 and have been married for like 15 to 20 years.
So I would say pretty young.
I would say my husband and I are kind of odd in that number in terms of like ages.
Cause most people are in their mid-30s and have yeah, so I'm not talking about millennials.
I'm talking about like the Gen Z.
So the, because I'm the youngest millennial by like a, I would be Gen Z if I was a month older or like younger, sorry.
But so I'm 28.
So people under 28.
Okay, people under 28.
Because when I, when I was in a Protestant church, I just, I didn't find that the young people were marrying any sooner.
It would be like the best looking men and women would marry.
So like the hottest guy would get the hottest girl.
The high, like, of the like younger people, it would be like two or three couples, and then the rest would kind of stick it out until they had to.
I don't know if that's your experience, that's just mine.
No, I agree with that.
I just think, yeah, like I talked to a single gal last night, and I was like, Are you gonna get married?
She's like, I think God's calling me to just focus on my career.
It's like, oh, okay, I don't know necessarily how to respond to that.
There's a handful of single people at our church, like our pastor's son.
He's 17 and he's engaged.
He'll turn 18 this summer and get married right away.
So, I think, but he's like the oldest in all these kids who are coming up where there is like an intention for people to get married and have lots of kids.
So, um, the single people who are there are like 23 and up, yeah, and are trying to find someone, and it's been hard.
So, I don't necessarily have a lot of people in that age demographic that are like younger than 25.
Most of those people, I feel like are it's easier to get married and find someone.
You'd say by 30, most of them marry.
Would you say like more than 50%?
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's what I would guess too.
Okay, well, um, they're they said you're dodging.
Like, what question is she dodging?
She needs to go.
Sorry, they're kind of they wrote, they roast me too.
Um, okay, they will get married to go to bio.
Okay, I see.
Hold on, sorry, dudes, but women don't like old men.
Is there an age gap in these churches?
Would you say, like, is there age gap in dating, or do most people date the same age?
Um, I like my husband's six years older than me.
I found like men are usually the old, older, depending, or there's the same age.
So, like, uh, our pastor said he's engaged his girlfriend or fiancé is a few years older than him, which would I would say that's kind of unusual.
Um, uh, most of our church are like half of them are all kids under five currently.
So, you can ask me in like 15 years what's happening with the demographic of the next generation.
Yeah, let me just make sure there's no questions.
Five one.
Okay, I think that's all my questions for you.
Thanks for giving insight.
I like to get people's stories, so now I know what's going on in Utah.
You know, Montana, you said, right?
I'm in Utah here.
I grew up in Montana, but yeah, maybe you're right.
Well, thanks, bro.
This is really fun.
So, thanks for coming on.
I'm sure I'll message you again if we have a topic that's like relevant.
So, come on again.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
Let's see what we got next.
Okay, I'm going to read the chat on the website.
Oh, you guys have been going for a bit.
Pearl, oh, wait, I read that already.
When Dej and me keep him, oh, wait, Dej is loyal as a Labrador.
Okay, wait, hold on, hold on.
Oh, my gosh.
Dane, every show.
Guys, join the chat on the website if you want your stuff read.
Um, it's 10 bucks a month, 80 bucks a year.
I do read the chat on the side.
I do read sometimes on YouTube, but it's got to make me laugh or something.
Pearl, think about it logically.
If the male gives her his virginity to her and she gives his virginity to him, do they both still have the virginity?
Do they cancel out?
Virginity is valued by men because of paternity and because men are territorial and protective of our property.
This gives virginity value beyond simply being a physical act like sneezing.
Male virginity is a creation of feminists in the Protestant churches.
That's not to say that premarital sex for men before marriage isn't a sin, but he's not losing his virginity.
Okay, wait, I read this.
Let me keep going.
So even ultra conservative men like me, men will quickly accept a woman who may not be a physical virgin, but she displays other signs of virtue and purity.
Dej and I were 19.
She was pregnant when we got married in 1991.
But what attracted to me to her was not the question of virginity.
It was the person she was and that she served and respected me.
Dej is as loyal as a Labrador retriever and as brilliant as she is, she wasn't a know-it-all.
We fit together like peanut butter and jelly.
So the question of virginity just wasn't an issue.
With Deej and me, keep in mind that we were only 17 and 18 when we started dating.
By comparison, a stone-cold virgin who is a know-it-all who wants to treat him like a child is a hard pass.
The batshit crazy virgin who is insufferable will lose out all of her value as a wife after about 2.3 minutes with a man.
Once the post-nut clarity sets in, she's undesirable as a skanky woman.
Elon Musk is above the law because he's so rich.
With women, serving your man is like money in the bank.
If you deposit enough service, then you'll be like Elon Musk.
You're above non-virginity.
Good men prefer virgin women, of course.
They'll overlook a few bad decisions if she is humble, feminine, agreeable, gentle, submitted, respectful, loving, kind, can cook, and can clean.
Virginity was at the seams to be, can I bear living with her?
Will she drive me to drinking and will she ever shut up?
In Protestantism, it's a mixed bag when it comes to IVF, abortion, and other birth control, especially us lower Protestants because of feminism and nearly no standards for admission.
The lack of cohesiveness in Protestantism is what makes me look favorably on Catholicism.
If only if I could get past a handful of theological issues, you should ask 100 Protestants where they stand on things like abortion and IVF, and you'll get at least 50 different answers.
Yo, I'm sorry, I went to Catholic school.
You get the same answers from not the men.
The men have like standards.
The men have like, you know, they're like principled.
They read the book and they're like, that's not the book.
The women are like, you know, not all, not all.
But the women, many of the women, the Catholic ladies, they're like, no, I picked that one.
I like that verse, but not that verse.
Not that one.
Not at all.
In Protestantism, all you need is some guy who can preach and people call him a pastor and you have a new church.
That's a big problem.
It's why American church is so weak.
In Luke 1, it says that Mary was a virgin, but she was not chosen because of her virginity.
Gabriel told it it was because she found favor with God.
It was about God's choice, not her virginity.
Mary's virginity addresses the question of Jesus being born of the will of a man, which would have conferred sin within the context of religion.
For him to be born sinless, she had to be a virgin.
For her, being a virgin, it was important, Dane.
Oh, okay.
They're talking to each other now.
One guy, Pearl Reed, there is a women-only Facebook.
Are we dating the same guy?
I actually am in one of those because it's hilarious.
And I wish I could read it, but I don't want to get kicked out of the group.
And I just, I'm very entertained by it.
It has over 5 million women on there and become a menace to men's lives and the world over.
Rich Cooper addressed it before.
Yeah.
My boyfriend winded up on one of those pages once.
Okay, let me keep going.
Pearl, when a bride does not attempt to get along with his family, she is really full of herself and it is not about him or them, just her.
Read Pearl.
I disagree.
I think women should always be better looking, but not much better.
Five to one higher our looks are what men like about women first and foremost.
Look, I like that in concept.
Okay, I really do.
But when I see relationships are in order, by the way, I don't judge relationships by how long you've been together.
Like there's a couple I know, they've been together like 20 years.
But that woman henpecks him every, she's always telling him that she makes more money than him.
And it's the most degrading thing.
I'm thinking, what is wrong with you, lady?
Now, am I supposed to think that they're a better relationship than the couple that's together five years and the woman worships him?
That's the only way it works.
She has to be obsessed.
Now, now, that's what it comes down to.
Whose terms is the relationship on?
His or hers.
If it's hers, they're going to destruction.
Unfortunately.
And the thing is, now that we're not virgins, obviously, women, we're going to date up.
We're going to date better looking.
So if she's with a guy that's less good looking than her, that means she's dated better looking in the past because, you know, she's gone for a better looking guy, generally speaking, if she's not a virgin.
And oftentimes that leads to the woman not appreciating the guy.
Now, sometimes they start off kind of equal and then the guy gets hotter, the woman gets uglier, it makes sense.
It makes sense.
But I think it works better when the woman is like one to two points lower.
And, you know, we see the bachelor.
Out of the three women, the least good-looking one treated him the best.
It worked out the best, anyways.
Let me see.
Pearl, what are your thoughts on Roma Army?
I don't really have any thoughts.
Like, I mean, she's fine.
I don't, I know she's made, like, I've seen her tag me in some like videos, kind of talking trash.
I don't really have an opinion.
I don't, I'm sure.
This is a problem.
When I say people's names, that's what you guys do to me.
I'll do it because you're in my chat.
But when I say people's names, then this gives them another video to Sperg.
I'm like, ah.
But it's the YouTube game.
I can't hate on her for it.
Um, you go girl.
Um, okay.
Now, I think, let me see.
I might have one more person.
No, I think we're going to end it today.
I got to go play volleyball.
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