Pearl critiques modern friendship trends, citing studies showing 70% of close ties dissolve within seven years and Gen Z/millennials (65-74%) prefer digital over in-person bonds—73% rely on messaging apps. Callers like Trump X, isolated after a false accusation and legal battle, and Gabe, a recovering "simp" with autism, reveal how trauma and societal pressures fracture real connections. Derek’s late friend’s death exposed the fragility of convenience-based relationships, while Pearl’s own experiences highlight betrayal and parasocial shallowness. Ultimately, she argues that meaningful growth requires accepting imperfection in friendships, not fleeting online validation or transactional bonds. [Automatically generated summary]
The simps and the fake traditional conservative women.
Thank you for keeping me employed.
If it wasn't for you guys, I wouldn't have a job.
Thank you.
Someone said, Pearl, you look like you just got real.
All right.
I'm not having the best hair day, okay?
Could you just, could you just leave me be?
You guys are too much sometimes.
Okay, as you guys know, if you want to contribute, go to theaudacitynetwork.com and get the yearly or monthly subscription.
I do read you guys' comments that are in the live chat that is on the website, so make sure you do that.
Okay, so today's topic, we are going to be talking about friendship.
Now, most people believe that friendship is important to having a happy life.
Most people believe that relationships are important.
Now, as you guys know, all of the data is showing that men and women are going further and further apart.
And I'm not here to sell hope.
I'm not here to sell dreams.
You know, it would be much easier for me to do a stream saying, yes, there's going to be families, everything's going to swing back, but there is zero indication that that's going to happen.
So, what is the definition of a friendship?
A friend is somebody you care about, trust, enjoy spending time with that makes you feel happy and supported.
And friendships can vary based on many factors.
Now, friendships have a tendency to last 17 years, but only six of 29 friends people make in their lifetime last that long.
A study of 2,000 people found that people lose touch with almost 50% of their friends.
Research shows up to 70% of close friends and 52% of social networks dissolve after seven years.
And people regularly make new friends until their mid-20s, but friendship social circles have a tendency to shrink after that.
And childhood friendships last a lifetime for most people.
According to Jerry Hall, it takes about 50 hours of relationships to move from acquaintance to casual friend and around 90 hours to become a friend.
Oh my God.
And you guys are agreeing with me in the chat.
You know, we have Nomi B says, over time, the realization kicks in that 99% of people aren't talking to.
And, you know, when I watch women's videos about these things, a lot of times the way I would perceive it is they are either too lazy to go out and try making friends or they would make videos saying they have no friends for attention.
But men, it just seemed to be a little bit different for me.
They just seemed exasperated, like used up in a way.
Like they were tired of being used for their resources and their time from both men.
I mean, women especially, we all know that on this channel, but it wasn't that simple.
A lot of them seem tired of being used by everybody.
And they're just sort of asking themselves, what do I get out of this?
What do I get out of this friendship?
I'm going to play the video a little bit longer.
There's a lot of things I was around my whole life that I had no business being around, but we're all brought up somewhere around certain types of people.
And it took me a while for me to be able to spread my wings just because of the positions I found myself in in life.
But I spread my wings and no one can hold me back.
I'm like the air all over the place doing whatever I want, doing as I please, growing as a human, just go, And I just can't stand the individuals that come around and try to stop me from being me or looking at me and talking to me like you know who I am.
You don't know who I am.
Every day is a I've even heard men say they don't like relationships because it comes with responsibilities.
And when people care about you, you if your mother cares about you, you have to go and visit her twice a year and you're obligated to.
Or and it almost seemed like the responsibility of the relationship and the time it would take up, you know, men just sort of realized it wasn't worth their time anymore.
Friends, family, both.
I'm going to play this a little longer.
I need to go switch something up there.
So just give me a second, guys.
Today, I don't want to know who you are.
Let's just live every day like it is.
I don't care what your name is.
I don't give a.
We're new people every single day.
Let's keep living every day like it's our last and let's keep putting up this fight and let's keep going on in life.
It's fun.
People need something to live for, man.
There's so many people around you just looking for you to entertain them.
That's what they're doing.
That's all they want is for you to entertain them because they are nothing.
They ain't got a head in their shoulders.
They just want you to come around to entertain them.
Make them feel good.
Make them do this.
Make them do that.
Make me do it.
How about you entertain me?
You can't.
I forgot.
You can't.
I can.
I can entertain you.
You can't entertain me.
That's why we ain't close.
And no, that's not the only reason why we're not close, but you just get the point.
Most people's not that interesting, man.
And I'm not even trying to be a brick.
I'm just being serious.
It's like, man, things is bullshit.
There are the odd people that come around and you have a fairly intelligent conversation with it and everything else.
But other than that, it's a bunch of BS.
It's just like it almost hurts your head more than anything else.
You just feel like, I don't know, it's ridiculous, man.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
This is why we just want to keep spreading our wings and keep growing past everything else because most people don't want to grow.
Most things around you don't want to grow.
I want to grow.
I want to spread my wings and fly off like a bird, to be honest.
I don't want to deal with most things around.
I just get away from me.
Get away from me.
Get away from me.
I just, I don't give a bro.
I don't care.
Please tell me something new.
Tell me something different.
Oh, yeah.
You can't.
I like new stories.
I like fascinating things and conversations.
I don't care about today.
I don't, like, bro.
Let's talk about the weather today.
Oh, it's a nice day today.
And who gives a?
We can't.
This is what I mean, man.
It's annoying.
It's just, bro, you hear it so much.
Things just get annoying.
People annoy me.
It's like you just want to be around some more intelligent shit.
So, because it's what's going to help us grow.
And then some people get upset because we just kind of shrug them off and we don't want to talk.
And it's like, I wasn't put on earth to entertain you.
I'm not your pet.
Like, I don't get it, man.
People expect things from us all the time.
And you know why?
Because we're like their parents.
We're like everyone's father.
People expect things from us all the time because we're daddy.
We're daddy.
Daddy can bring value to the table.
Yeah.
And what do our children do?
Extract value from us.
And our actual children, they're supposed to do that, but are these our children?
Is other grown adults everywhere around you our children?
Your children?
No.
This is the sickening thing about it.
This is what sickens me to death.
I don't get it.
And man, this has been going on for so many years.
This ain't nothing new.
This ain't something that just happened yesterday.
This ain't something that happened last week.
This has been going on for a decade or more, but bro.
Like, I was a kid once too.
But I was a smart kid.
I was.
He reminds me of what I've seen too.
And it's a phenomenon of people that are old enough to be adults, but mentally are children.
And I see this mostly oftentimes in the ladies, but the men, you know, I see it in both genders.
And I think it's a millennial thing.
Like, we're the kind of Disney adult.
I think we're the generation that really just postponed adulthood as long as humanly possible.
Never like that, bro.
There's people that's 20-some, 30-some, 40-some, and they're like that.
I wasn't even like that as a kid.
I was ahead of that as a kid.
Like, you got to be kidding me, guys.
Like, you got to be kidding me.
Like, man, my type of people are people in life with a thirst for growth and hunger.
Those are my kind of people that know some shit, that know something, that get it.
Not a lot of people get it.
And it's just, it's annoying after a while.
You can take some of it.
You can take it a little bit.
But as time keeps going on, it starts to drive you nuts.
You're around grown-ass adults and they expect you to swing off a branch by your teeth.
Like, I don't know.
They just expect too much from you.
They expect you to entertain them and it just wastes your time.
At the end of the day, you gave them laughs.
You did things for them, but it just wasted your time.
I'm not looking to have my time wasted.
I'm not looking to be around people like that.
I'm looking to be around people who want to keep rowing the canoe.
Okay, you guys get the idea.
So I asked these questions on Twitter.
You know, if you're someone that doesn't have a lot of friends, what is the reason for it?
Why did your friendship end?
And eventually, guys, we're going to do a call in where you guys can tell me your stories.
But I want to first.
Okay, so the reasons that people said were: one, people feel like they're different than the people around you, around them.
Many of the men that said they don't have a lot of friends have felt that they are just not interested in the same things that everyone else is interested in from a young age.
Some cite that it's video games, some cite that it's maybe a nerdy type of things, but there is a general feeling that they do not fit in with the people around them.
Now, when I was reading through comments on different videos and I don't know, just different things people were saying, some people do think that something is wrong with them personally, where they push people away for some reason.
Like I think one comment I read was, you know, something's probably wrong with me, but you know, I'm 71 alone and I'm happy.
Now, the next thing people would say for their reasoning why they don't have friends is I never spoke with them about anything of substance.
Number three, some seem to feel as though they are morally superior or just better than the people around them.
So there's a general feeling that maybe their friends were doing drugs and they didn't want to go down that path.
Maybe their friends weren't working as hard as them and they didn't want to go down that path.
A lot of people that seem to not have friends have a tendency to think that their friends, their old friends, were losers.
Okay, I don't, this is, I'm just telling you what people were saying.
They would say it's better to be alone than in bad company.
Social anxiety.
My girlfriend or wife is possessive and does not want to share.
Seven, I only put energy into people who put energy into me and I ended up alone.
My personal reasons are that I was more interested in other things and probably more interested in those things to pay attention to friendships.
I can't get through small talk.
I don't do small talk.
I honestly don't even wish to talk to people at all, even about the things I care about.
Most women gossip and tend to bond over that.
It's just very shallow.
It takes up too much time and energy.
And also people have no concept of planning anything these days.
I don't have any close friends, but only a couple who would do anything for me as I would for them.
Okay, guys.
So I want to know in the chat, what are your reasons?
If you don't have a lot of friends, what are your reasons for not having them?
Now, I'm going to read the Audacity Network members chat, which you go to theaudacity.network.com.
10 bucks a month, 80 bucks a year.
And I read your chat.
So Richard says, if there was a big war, everything would reset.
I don't watch TV or follow sports or drink, so it's tough.
Curveballs, your best friend can become your worst enemy.
I have become a rejection sensitive because of passive aggressive bullies and manipulative meddlers.
Sounds like he is a good at pattern recognition.
Dane, I signed in late, but this guy sounds weak and feminine.
If he were a woman, the words wouldn't change.
Same basic wine.
It's all feelings and how mean everyone is to him.
And it's always from the perspective that he's the prize.
Jacob, the guy is right.
Friends are only in your life for a reason or a season.
Rarely are they around forever.
Dane, if this whining and bitching is an example of how his normal behavior is, then there's no wonder he doesn't have grudges.
He's not entitled to friends long-term or otherwise.
Okay.
That's what the people in the chat are saying.
Okay, I'm going to show you guys one more video and I'm going to fix one more thing.
This is from a Nigerian woman who's 41.
I'm 41 years old and I have no friends.
I'm going to show you.
Friends and no social.
I'm 41 years old and I have no friends and no social life.
Some days I feel sad about this and some days I have come to terms with this fact.
But this video is not about bashing anyone, to be honest.
I'm not completely selfish or narcissistic enough to think that it's always everybody else's fault.
I know that I have a role as well to play in this.
But let me go a bit deeper into why I think I have no friends.
So I'm going to talk a bit about my childhood.
I grew up in a broken family.
My parents grew up when I was, I think, about four years old.
And this was the beginning of, you know, everything in terms of having detachment issues or attachment issues as well, for that matter.
So what that meant for me was that I was juggled around like a ball, basically, between my mom and my dad.
And I moved around quite a lot.
So I moved states three times.
By the way, I'm from Nigeria and Nigeria is a federation.
So we have states.
So I moved states three times.
And the fact that in Nigeria we've got over 100 languages means that every time I moved state, I was moving to a place that had a completely different language, although everyone speaks English, but the language was different.
The culture was different.
The food was different.
School, of course, was different.
So I had to like reorientate myself all over again.
So I also, I attended two nursery schools, three primary schools, two secondary schools, and one university, thank goodness.
But each time I had to move, I had to say goodbye to my friends.
So we're talking about a time before the internet, right?
A time before mobile phones, as we know it today, before Facebook and Instagram.
So once you left, that was it.
You know, it was goodbye.
And so I learned to be by myself and I learned to be my own friend and be my own company.
I was really lucky though, because then I discovered books.
And so I was able to escape from the world, basically.
But I think that also built a warped version of life in my head because I was reading lots of, you know, feel-good books, fiction, you know, like romance, the Mills and Boons.
I don't know if you're of that generation.
We had Mills and Boons.
I believe it still exists today.
But anyway, I digress.
So this really affected me growing up in terms of keeping in touch with friends.
I didn't have any close friends.
You know, as soon as I was close enough to people, it was like time to move.
Now, I don't completely blame my parents because I know that they were going through, I mean, now I know, even then, I think I have always been a kind of intuitive person.
You know, I knew that they were going through physical, mental, financial issues.
And so I didn't really blame them.
Of course, I didn't understand what was going on back then.
But let's fast forward to high school.
So in high school, secondary school, we call it in Nigeria.
In my final three years, I made very good friends.
We were so close.
We were tight.
We used to go to each other's homes.
I thought, finally, I belong, you know.
But then we went off to university.
We had different lives, different directions.
And we lost touch.
So, what that meant for me was that every time I would meet someone, okay, it's either of two things.
So, it's either I would guard myself against, you know, letting them in, or I would completely open up and risk getting hurt, you know, and it hurts.
It really, really hurts when you have no one really that you can just talk to.
It hurts deep, deep, deep, deep.
I'm a strong person.
I was a strong child.
I have a brother, but he's five years older than I am.
So, that means that, I mean, he's a boy, plus he's five years older than me.
So, we never really were that close.
We had different interests.
I was very bookish, and he was more artistic.
He is more artistic.
He's still artistic.
And I'm more of a, you know, a bookworm.
So, it didn't really, we didn't have that much of a tight relationship.
We love each other, but that much, that tight relationship we didn't have.
So, let's move to my.
When I hear her reasons, the man seems exhausted.
He seems like he has no friends because he is exhausted from what comes with friendship.
Where the woman seems like she has just checked out of life a little bit.
I chose my books over friends.
I moved.
I didn't really, I wasn't that close with my brother.
You guys can tell me if you think anything different, but we're going to keep going.
University days.
So, in my university days, I did make friends, but then I wasn't, they weren't like a major priority in my life.
If I saw them, I saw them.
If I didn't, I didn't really care because by then I had grown to just love myself and just be by myself.
And, you know, I was always fine by myself.
I still am fine by myself.
But then, when I started having relationships, romantic relationships, I would expect my boyfriend to be my friend, you know, but it's not the same.
However, when I met my boyfriend, who is now my husband now, things changed a lot.
He became my everything, my best friend, my confidant, everything.
And so, I didn't feel the need to have other friends.
But now that I'm in my 40s, I start, I've started thinking about it a little bit deeper.
I have problems keeping in touch with people.
I have problems carrying a relationship, a friendship beyond just, you know, hey, hi, and just hang out and just have a chit chat here and there and just move on.
I've tried.
So, my boyfriend and I, my husband now, and I, we moved to Malta from Nigeria because my boyfriend at the time was transferred here for work.
And so, we've been living in Malta for 10 years now.
At the start, we met a group of friends, a group of people, and we hung out together.
And I thought, yes, finally, you know, people that I can invite home, I can go to their place and ladies that I can really have a good chat with and stuff like that.
But then, slowly, you know, members of the group started falling out with each other.
Yeah, and that's really common with female friendships.
You know, the men, when I asked why their friendships ended, and I'm going to do a list later.
The men, some of them hired their friend.
Some of them maybe lent their friend money.
Some of them said their friend got into drugs, alcohol, or, you know, maybe one of them just started working a lot and just wanted to be around people that were working a lot.
The ladies' reasons for friendships ending was like stolen money, slept with my boyfriend.
Like, and Doug MPA even says that women can't stand each other.
70 to 80% of workplace bullying is women bullying other women, and 50% of women want to work for a male boss instead of a female boss.
So this is, you know, men, it just seems to be practical, where women, it tends to be, you know, the pause, you know, the claws come out.
Okay, let me refresh on the website.
Now, as most of you know, most of these ladies will find, even if they burn every bridge around them, whatever, they'll always find a simp.
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Okay, so next I want to check the chat.
Brian says people are very mobile these days and many friends moved to another state and I have eventually lost touch with them.
Dane says whether he's telling the truth or not is irrelevant.
People can do sucky stuff.
So what?
Man up and build yourself into something.
If this whining and bitching is an ex okay, whatever.
Okay, so now I'm going to talk about why friendships end.
So I asked people on Twitter to give me examples of why friendships end.
Now, I really love Twitter as a way to get personal stories because I find that people really just open up on that app.
I don't know what it is.
I think it's maybe more anonymous than other sites.
But people will tell you, you know, their deepest, darkest secrets or really open up about their life.
Now, why friendships ended?
I'm going to read common answers that I got.
He common.
That actually, that happened to me.
20 years of friendship.
And I told this woman, I didn't tell this woman, this show made me lose a lot of friends.
It's kind of sad.
You know, the ladies support you until you're saying what's on your mind.
Okay.
One of the parties moved was really common, drugs or alcohol.
Paid them for years and realized, oh, many people paid for their friends for years and realized they weren't putting in as much effort.
One became more successful than the other.
So what's interesting now is the average number of friends seems to be between one and four close friends.
Men report having less friendships with 15% of men reporting having no close friendships at all.
Now, I think there's a couple reasons for this, just anecdotally speaking.
One is the majority of close friendships come from childhood.
And if you don't develop them in childhood, I think you're at a disadvantage for the rest of your life.
And now it's much more common for people to move.
And, you know, as someone, I grew up in the same place my entire life.
You know, we moved into this house when I was in third grade.
I didn't go far.
And when I moved to London for three years and then I moved to Milwaukee for two years, it was very difficult for me to maintain friendships moving to a different country in a different city.
One was because staying in, there's less incentive to stay in touch when you know you won't see them for six months or a year.
And I think that's definitely one reason is people moving around more than they are.
The other thing is, I think that people get their social battery met through media.
And I can even say this personally.
Like if I do a show and I'm about to interact with you guys for like two hours, let's say, let's say we do this show and you guys call in, we have some great chats.
I'm not complaining.
I'm just describing.
Am I going to go want to have a long conversation after this?
No, I'll just put on my Netflix, go to bed and do the same thing tomorrow.
And this, I think, was exacerbated during COVID.
During COVID, we saw an increase in online dating.
That's where people are meeting their partners nowadays or their boyfriend, girlfriend.
And according to recent data, most communication is now online.
And if I'm being truly honest with myself, a lot of my friends in the past five years, I have met through the internet.
And personally, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
It just is the way the world is going.
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Okay, so now we have a digital revolution.
Now, my personal experience with media is it's really been around for most of my life, and I don't really remember life without it.
I remember getting my first smartphone when I was 12 years old.
And I remember specifically, that was the first time I ever felt left out of anything.
So when I was 12, I had no idea if people hung out and I wasn't invited.
I didn't know.
And I remember being like, you know, 11, 12 years old.
And you get your first smartphone.
And that's the first time you compare your life to others.
And I specifically remember there being get-togethers that I didn't know, you know, people were having.
And from a female point of view, that's sort of how like clicks happen and they're, you know, there's the in-click, the out-click.
And before then, I had like two friends and I was happy with that.
But I remember that entire friend group when I was like 12 fell apart after we all got smartphones.
I don't know what happened.
I just know it fell apart.
This was like 15 years ago.
And so that was my first experience with like social media.
It was Facebook.
But most of my adult life, everything's been pretty digital.
I can't even imagine the people like five years younger than me because I at least have a little bit of memory, but I don't remember much.
So I asked people about the benefits of parasocial relationships rather than in person.
So one is you get to find people that have the same interests.
Now, this is something that's been great for me.
I'm such a unique, you know, who listens to red pill content?
Who finds this stuff?
You know, I think I found like the two women in the world that watch this stuff.
And it's been great because you do get to find people with the same interests.
The other pro benefits of parasocial relationships.
Actually, I'm going to go back to number one.
The other thing that people were saying, if they play a unique video game, if they like, you know, it allows men to also have male-only spaces because you can't really ban the ladies from the bars.
You can't really ban the ladies from school.
And so women, we have female-only spaces.
We go to the nail salon.
It's mostly women.
You go to school.
It's mostly women.
If you get a gender studies degree, mostly women.
And I do think there, you know, there are negatives to parasocial relationships, but I'm going to play devil's advocate for the day.
All right.
I'm going to give the positives.
When someone's annoying you, you can simply log off.
You guys in the chat, I mean, I'm sure some of you have been watching this stream and you're like, I'm sick listening to this woman talk.
Click, I'm gone.
I'm gone.
You can't do that in real life.
You ever been in front of somebody?
This happened to me the other day.
You know, I loved you guys.
You know, I don't want to, I don't want to ever discourage you guys.
If you see me in person, you can totally say hi to me, take a picture.
But I don't want to be there all night.
I don't.
I really, I really don't.
I talk about these topics for hours a day, like two, three hour shows.
I do not want to leave here and talk about it more.
I've given my opinion.
You know, I leave sometimes.
I don't want to give any opinions.
I want to know what's going on in your life.
And I meet, sometimes I meet you guys in the wild and you're like, I want to hear how you got to your ideas.
And I'm just like, go to my book or go, sorry, I don't have a book.
Go to my channel.
There's hours.
There's literally hours of me talking for three years straight.
And, but it's really rude for me to say, go away, please.
The other day, I was at this place and this guy comes up to me and he's, and I was at Soho House.
You guys know the, maybe I shouldn't say the places I go, but I've been debating if I'm going to keep the membership or not.
So I was there the other day.
And this guy comes up to me and he's just asking me about all these topics.
Like, oh, I want to know how you got to these opinions and da I can make a show on that.
I'll say, noted, let's make this a show.
I don't even mind, you know, answering a question or two, but when it's been 45 minutes, you're going to make me leave the place.
I'm going to leave because I just, I don't.
But that's the benefit of a parasocial relationship.
You can just, if you guys get annoyed, If you guys get annoyed in my chat, click, click.
You know, the other benefit of a parasocial relationship is you could say everything you want to say.
In real life, you know, day to day.
And I think this is a problem with Gen Z and millennials is we talk a lot of ish.
We talk a lot of shit.
And it's because we can, because we can do it through the smartphone and the cameras, where in real life, like 10 years ago, you would get your ass beat.
I don't know what that's like.
Nobody was really fighting in my high school.
But I think the major downside of online friends and parasocial relationships is you just will not get that deep connection that people used to have where you love them despite their flaws.
Because, I mean, quite frankly, if my parasocial friend is annoying me, click.
Where in real life, you can't really do that.
And I think it contributes to people, the ladies, expecting, but not all, not all, not all, expecting a more a perfect person, right?
Or even maybe, maybe this guy is expecting perfection.
I don't know.
But it's because parasocially, you can just, whenever someone's annoying you, click, The other downside is you're never really going to know people's flaws on the internet.
I mean, you do see it at times.
Like Lauren Southern, Bang and Destiny, that came out.
That's a major, that's a major flaw.
I mean, there's some people caught in Ponzi schemes, whatever, but it's more the little things that like your family knows about you.
Maybe that person's weird or cold or annoying, but you love them despite.
You just will never get that in a parasocial relationship.
Pearl, the dude was hitting on you.
Okay, but I wasn't interested.
I mean, it was super clear.
You know, if you say, if you say to me, Pearl, I want to talk about your podcast.
And I say, you know, there's links online.
What is that?
You know, I think there's an increase in like autism.
You know, and I'm not even saying I'm the most socially charming person in the world, but sometimes the cues, you know, anyways.
All right.
Now, what I want to hear from you guys, I'd love to, I'd love to get your opinions.
I want to hear what your experience is with friends.
So I want to give you guys the option to go cameraless because this is a personal topic.
But if you abuse this and start trolling, I will never do it again.
I won't.
It will be the last time.
So I'm going to put a link in the chat.
And if you guys are good, I might regret this, but I want to know if you have friends.
I want, sorry, let me rephrase this.
I want to hear from the people with no friends.
And I want to know why they chose that life.
And if you do have friends, but you had a friendship end, I want to know what caused the friendship to end.
They said Pearl is just complaining about simps approaching her.
No, I am complaining about, I, you know, what I can complain.
Thank you.
I will complain.
I am complaining about being asked about these topics for 45 minutes.
Look, sometimes I'm tired, guys.
Look.
Oh, Lord.
Okay, let me let me get the let me get the link.
I'm going to put this in the chat.
Look, I didn't even think he was a sim.
It was just, it was just, look, guys, I don't mind.
As I've said, I don't mind if it's like a one question or whatever.
I mind when that's all you're asking me about, you know.
Anyways, I'm going to continue.
You know, the people that want to misunderstand are going to misunderstand.
I don't care.
Misunderstand.
Criticize.
I don't care.
I'm to that point in my life.
Also, guys, please, please, please, please go to theaudacitynetwork.com.
I do read the chats there.
And you're going to get first access to my documentary.
He said, I'm autistic.
And that guy seemed autistic too.
He might have been.
And I try to be nice, but just at some point, I'm like, criticize.
Oh my, is this the I'm hearing an echo?
I don't know what the do I need to mute.
Go to the chats there.
And you're going to get first access to my documentary.
Hold on, guys.
I can't see the people.
Hold on, guys.
Today we're on producer list, so it's just me.
And I made a message for text support.
I will tell you guys the story of my 12-year-old self-ending the friendship.
You know, sometimes I need to give you guys personal stories.
You guys have watched me long enough, you know.
But sometimes I don't like, I get a little nervous to tell L's because I don't want these channels take my L's and just sort of like use them as a weapon against me forever.
But I was 12, so I think I'm over it now.
I think I can tell this L.
So when I was 12, I had two best friends, two BFFs.
We were the greatest of pals, right?
And what happened was I found out these, we would have sleepovers and it was like the three of us.
We even used a Ouija board once.
I know that was, that was bad.
We probably shouldn't have.
We were like 12.
And, you know, we just did like the typical kids stuff.
And what happened was these ladies, I found out they hated me.
And I was like, what?
I thought we were pals.
And apparently they were trashing me to the whole class.
And randomly one day, I don't know what I did to this day.
Randomly one day, they just quit hanging out with me forever.
But it actually was the best thing that happened to me ever.
And my mom told me that she thought they were so weird.
And she was like, it was the greatest day of my life.
She probably didn't say the greatest day of my life, but she said, I was so happy when that friendship ended because they were so weird.
And they kind of went into the goth kid, like the goth group.
And she just said, I did not want you going down that path.
I know I did.
Got, I got ghosted by the two who knows to this day, they didn't, but it was funny because I caught them, right?
So, when I was like 12, I caught them talking about me, and this is when the texts were coming out.
And so, my one friend, my other friend, came in who I had a, but I wasn't as close with this third friend, and she came in and said, Yep, they're talking about you.
And I was like, Oh my gosh, they said they hate me.
And so I remember they felt so guilty when I was just like, Well, I guess we're not friends anymore.
Then they wanted me back now.
12-year-old Pearl was like, You guys didn't want me.
Yeah, I would have been a goth kid.
Yeah, and I was like, 12-year-old Pearl was like, Well, I never would have did that to you, but I guess if that's how you feel, and I didn't, I didn't chase them.
I think they wanted me to chase them, and I said, No, good luck.
And now, you know, I don't know what they're doing, but I to this day, you know what's funny?
I messaged one of them like 10 years later.
I just wanted to know if they were moving the Ouija board or if it worked, because that was definitely something we did.
And maybe Pearl flirted with their boyfriends.
I was 12, nobody had boyfriends.
We were definitely alone by ourselves, lonely.
We had like 25 people in our whole class, like it was a very small school, you know.
So, let me see if they're getting the I can't.
All right, I don't know if there's a Zoom, but I can like hear something, but I can't see anything.
So, they said goth pearl over pearl and blue.
Did those girls have their fathers around?
No, they didn't actually.
Now that I think about it, one, oh no, no, one did, but their parents would fight all the time, so I think they were gonna divorce.
And the other one, yeah, the other one was a stepdad, and the mother told everyone that the dad was abusive.
We all know how that goes.
We, I mean, was he was he?
I mean, let me see.
Okay, they say the live stream's ready, so I want to let me see if we're gonna pull it up.
We're trying, otherwise, I'm gonna have to tell you guys another story of ended friendships.
I'm gonna, oh no, all right, thank praise the Lord, right?
Okay, hello, sir.
Uh, what is that a Donald Trump?
I don't, is that a green screen?
Yes, this is my Trump puppet.
Oh, nice.
So, what is you can either say like a name or a screen?
Like, what should I call you on YouTube?
I'm Trump X.
Okay, Trump X.
So, are you calling up as someone that doesn't have friends, or are you calling in as someone that had a friendship end?
Well, someone who doesn't have friends currently.
Okay, so how old are you?
55, about to turn 56 next month.
Okay, and so how long has it been since you had friends?
Like, when did this start?
Was this always like how you went through life?
Um, well, it kind of started with A false accusation of touching a non-existent tit like in 2001.
No way.
Then a very malicious prosecution.
Yeah.
Wow.
I was, I did not think of that answer, actually.
So you were agoraphobia set in.
What's agoraphobia?
I don't know what that is.
I'm just looking that up.
Agoraphobia.
Not wanting to leave the house.
Oh, so who can you tell me like who accused you?
Was it like an ex-wife or something?
No, it was a neighbor.
Crazy crackhorse.
Okay.
And she accused you of touching a kid that didn't exist?
No, not a kid.
She had a kid.
It was a weird situation.
This guy was a truck driver.
He got rid of his wife, brought back his ex.
He had two boys from the ex.
I guess that's why he brought her back.
But the oldest boy was trying to mess with the sister.
He had the same first name as me.
I think the girl tried to tell her mom.
She went off.
Next thing you know, I'm arrested and charged.
No questions asked.
No explanations given.
And did you go to court?
Like, did they find you guilty of it?
Oh, yeah.
Really?
No.
I went to court twice.
The first jury hung because somebody lied on their Voider.
Say that again.
The Voider questionnaire they give you before a trial when you're a jury member.
Somebody lied and just got in the jury room and said, I'm always going to say guilty because I was a victim or whatever.
And so that went on your record.
Anyway, no, actually, it did not because I was found innocent.
Oh, you were.
The second trial was like a week later because the first jury hung.
And I was actually angry the second time.
And I ended up being like, well, if the cops or the prosecutor, anybody had done their job, then they would have found out the first thing I ever did in my young life was become a military police officer and I'd never do anything like this.
So I was acquitted.
But the system didn't work anything like I had been taught when I became an MP.
And it was like a total malicious prosecution.
They had brought a prosecutor up from the county attorney's office and like, here it's a crap case, see what you can do with it.
And she tried every dirty trick in the book, try and get me thrown into prison for like 26 years, no parole.
That blew my mind.
I know today, like government being corrupt, oh my God, you know, colored me shocked, right?
But back then, as somebody who was like a naive child of the 70s, it blew my mind and left me like at the beginning, I would spend like eight hours a day in the bathroom paranoid because like if they're going to come and get me again, they got to at least give me a few minutes to get up, right?
Apparently, like nowadays, no, probably not.
And so that was.
So I don't have any friends, really.
So that was 20 years ago.
So you were in your third, you said 50s.
So you were in your 30s when that happened?
Yeah.
And so did everyone you know essentially just stop talking to you?
Did this get out to everyone in your social circle, circles in the neighborhood?
It it was like I lived in a different state than I grew up in and I had other family issues pop up at the same time that required me to go back to the home state.
So I left right afterwards, got it.
So what made you so?
Is it like a fear, like if you're friends with anyone else they might accuse you of something?
Because i'm just no.
So i'm just curious like, what made you stop making friends in the future?
Or you were just too sorry?
Go ahead, go ahead.
Where i'm at today is, i'm well healed, i'm well over it.
I can go grocery, shopping and stuff, not a problem.
But since i'm over it now uh actually, since i'm on Youtube right now I just want to give a shout out to Jd Delay.
It was him.
He made me realize what happened.
The cops didn't do their job because they knew I didn't do it, so they gave the prosecution nothing to work with.
It is what it is, but it took me a long time to get to that point of realizing that.
But um, so anyway, the cops didn't do their job, so they gave the prosecution nothing to work with, yeah, like the night I was arrested, I didn't know what was going on.
I'm like, let me talk to somebody, etc.
I'd like to talk to a uh investigator, you know a detective, whatever they were like.
Oh, i'm sure you get to talk to one later.
No, the cop that arrested me just sent me on to county with charges at like 2 a.m in the morning that night.
Um, but they never did like a real investigation.
These people lived like at the other end of my building.
So like, why wasn't there like restraining order that made me move, or something?
Never was the state that I was in at the time, which shall remain nameless uh, put me on the like sex offender list six months before my trial, holy yeah, and I had to like threaten them to get me to take taken off.
I mean like it was bad all the way around.
This was like 2002, and so I mean yeah, i've totally lost trust in government and I was paranoid of coming out of the house.
Oh oh, so you, you would?
So would you not like go grocery shopping?
Like how paranoid were you at the time?
Well, like I said, like my kid had a christmas place, I tried to go.
Uh, the year I was acquitted And I was cool at first, but it was just like it was a small mountain town, but even like 100 people or less, it was just too many people.
And I had to go outside and wait stuff like that.
Um, panic attacks, especially if I saw a cop.
And when it was 100 people, you would get afraid they would accuse you of something or call the cops.
I'm just trying to understand anxiety issues kick in, anxiety attack around large crowds of people.
Okay, and you never had that before the false accusation that was just after.
No, I was a social butterfly.
Wow.
So, this completely like changed your personality almost.
Well, yeah, kind of, but not really.
I mean, there was a part of me on the deep inside that was like blocked off from the rest of it.
And after that, I didn't use my first name anymore.
I go by Will.
It's an abbreviation of my middle name.
It fits better after what I've been through.
And so, what's life like for you now with the no friends?
You mentioned you have a son.
Are you married?
No, I really don't have a family to speak of.
I'm estranged from him, his mother.
I don't even really want to go into it.
That's fine.
You don't have to.
That's like a whole nother story.
Yeah.
But nowadays, what I do is I have two work from home jobs.
I work during the day for a supplemental medical review contractor.
When Medicare wants to take money back from doctors, I'm the guy that call for help.
And at night, I do like telephone surveys.
I work from home.
I'm good.
And the way society is today, I'm just pretty much good chilling around the house.
I can go out and socialize if I want, but why do I want to spend the money?
And do you ever like, are you happy this way?
Like, do you miss being super social or are you just happier inside?
Like, do you wish it was different?
I guess is what I'm getting at.
Well, yes and no.
What I've described across this journey is God doesn't always give you what you want, but he always gives you what you need.
If that makes sense.
Because right now, I force myself to sit down and like learn the law because I figured if anybody was ever going to screw with me again, I wanted to be able to screw them right back.
And so now, like, well, if you want to know the honest truth that not even Trump wants to talk about, I'm a state citizen.
You have the right to do that under Article 3 of the Constitution, not the amendments.
And, well, to be honest with you, state citizens aren't anybody that Congress presumes to contract with.
I'm not a sovereign citizen.
God, I hate it if people call me that.
If you call me that, you probably get called the name back.
But there's lots of case law covers all that.
Anyway, yeah, I know what I need to know.
I'm happy.
I've got my life.
I'm paying my bills.
I'm saving money.
I got 401k.
I'm good.
Got it.
And do you, so how long do you go without leaving the house?
Would you say?
Like, how many times in a week do you leave?
Well, I live in a little 350-person town about 50 miles from anywhere, Montana.
Okay.
So not a lot.
One to three times a week.
Got it.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much for calling in and telling your story.
I'm sorry to hear about the false accusation.
That's really too bad.
Yeah, it sucks.
And I just, I jumped on it because it's the kind of thing you talk about.
Yeah.
Well, thank you very much.
I think we're going to go to the next person.
All right.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Let's see.
They said.
All right.
I'm going to read the chats in between.
So they're going to Trump puppet guy's problem isn't false accusations or the agoraphobia.
His voice and sense of victimhood is alienating to other men.
Look, I'm not really here to like, I just want to explain to you guys.
I'm not here to diagnose anybody.
I'm not even here to shit on them or say, you know, you should be more social.
This is happening.
There's tons of men that have no friends.
I want to know why from their perspective.
You guys can, you know, judge whatever.
Dane says Trump puppet is very feminized.
Brian says, thank God you escaped the goths.
Dane, no one likes to be rejected, but at 53 years old, I can't remember ever having the thought, I want to make a friend or I want to be that person's friend.
I just live and let the chips fall.
Yeah, I think that's a better way to live.
W. Pearl for care.
Well, guys, okay.
I just want to know what's going on.
Like, this is, I always try to come at the perspective on my show.
I'm describing what's going on.
I get the information from you guys.
Okay, let's do like one or two more.
If you guys want to bring on the next person, give me one second, guys.
I'm going to, switching between people on Zoom will take a second.
I was told that he's trolling.
Look at maybe he is trolling.
don't know i i okay i'm gonna tell you guys a story while we wait for the next person Another, so this woman scares me a little bit.
I don't like talking about her Because she went on to say false things about me for a long time after.
I never gave my point of the story.
Oh, oh, oh, but we got the next guy coming on.
Maybe in between next time, guys.
Okay.
Hello.
Welcome to the show.
What can I call you?
Gabe is fine.
Hi, Gabe.
How are you?
Pretty good.
How are you?
So are you calling as someone that has no friends or that was that had a friend like ex-friend for some reason?
So it's kind of a bit of both, but it's more of like, how would you say me opening up a little bit about my experience being a red pill consumer, as I would say?
Okay.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, as you can see, my background, where I am originally from, they don't teach men how to be men or whatnot, typical raising a single parent home, rest in peace to my late mother who passed away about a year ago.
But my story is a little bit similar to the last individual in a way, just a little bit though, because I am currently a student and I have to hear like people yap and yap and yap about how much they hate men and all that good stuff.
How old are you?
So I am actually going to be turning 36 this next February.
Okay.
And you're a student in what?
Like what's history.
Okay, that makes sense.
A lot of history majors are women.
So I have to take a lot of, I have to, sorry to interrupt.
Yeah, I have to take a lot of gender studies courses and have to hear modern women denounce like, you know, traditional like stuff like motherhood, which I kind of felt was a slap in my face this last semester and, you know, just talking crap about, say, people like you or the Manosphere, Andrew Tate in general.
But to kind of self-reflect on myself, I kind of feel like I call myself a recovering simp because that's kind of like how I was taught to be was kind of like, how would you say, like, I'm throwing myself under the bus when I'm admitting all of these flaws I have.
But being, you know, the quote unquote nice guy or nerd throughout like my life when it comes to social issues, I also have autism, which exacerbates a lot of this and overcoming basically a lot of like me basically like not knowing or understanding other people.
Like, does that make sense at all?
What do you mean by nice guy?
Do you mean you were in the friend zone with women?
Were you, I don't know, only fans?
Like, are you like, what do you mean by like simple?
The first part, this, the first part, I would never lower myself to like subbing to OnlyFans ever.
I'm, I'm too stingy when it comes to money.
I don't even, I've never been the kind of simp that'll like give a girl like a flower, you know, or whatever, like that kind of like nice guy.
But always thinking like, oh, I need to like, you know, be like, say, smiley or like say like if I'm talking to a girl or whatever, and like, oh, oh, you're feeling sad.
Do you want to talk about it type of thing?
Like, does that give a little bit more clarification?
So did you have like a woman you were friends with for a long time and you thought maybe it would go somewhere at some point, or is it just in day-to-day conversation?
It's a bit of both, I would say, but it's more of like constantly, like, I think being looked at as, oh, like, he's just too nice or whatever, or clearly, I mean, you know, not maybe say looking like, you know, attractive enough or anything like that.
Like, or, you know, he's just not like a bad boy or whatever type of thing.
Like, I apologize if a lot of what I'm saying are stumbling on my words.
That's just a common problem with guys with autism and all that.
But I mean, basically, I've had to look at myself in the mirror recently where I've told myself like a lot of common problems that Simpson nice guys have is that they tend to think that if they like try to play like free therapist to a girl, oh, that's going to make them attractive to them.
Like you've seen those crappy, you know, chick flick movies, like, oh, the guy says, oh, to the girl, oh, I'm so sorry your boyfriend that's a bad guy hangs out with the homeboys all night in the bar and cheats on you.
He doesn't buy you roses, flowers for Valentine's Day.
Oh, I'll be your friend or whatever, hoping that he'll like get with her.
That's kind of the toxic mindset that I was thinking for a long time.
And is this a problem you're looking to solve?
Or are you more looking, or would you say you've given up?
Like if you, is this something you're looking to fix and you're more hopeful for the future?
Or do you just think it's not worth it?
I'm going to do my own thing.
You know, if we were having this conversation a few years ago, I probably would have felt hopeless and probably told myself I wanted to give up.
But I kind of feel like with my own self awareness, I kind of feel like while I don't have the solution necessarily right now, I kind of get a feeling that I want to be more optimistic.
It's just a matter of, I think I'm going to have to keep working on myself and my flaws before I get to a certain point.
I do feel though, however, that while I've made a lot of mistakes when it comes to a lot of girls I like meet on a day-to-day basis, I will say a good first step that I've done that I feel helps me feel hopeful is I gave up on dating apps.
I pretty much told myself, you know what, I wasted 14 years of my life being addicted to them, especially in my early 20s when I was being a lazy bum and whatnot.
I mean, when I say bum, I don't mean homeless.
I mean, like, you know, living at home, not doing nothing and whatnot, not going to school, not doing anything with my life.
I pretty much try to talk to people in person and whatnot.
And while I do have like some flaws and like failed friendships or relationships or situationships, more or less.
I kind of feel a little bit more hopeful that recently I feel like I've tried to self-develop like, you know, confidence to try to like improve like any social skills that I have.
Like, I'm being very vague when I describe this.
Like, what makes you not tackle the weight problem?
I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm just curious because I think that would, wouldn't you think that would help you the most?
I think it is possible.
I, you know, I, that does, it is a little embarrassing to be asked that, but I think it's a matter of, you know, I just would need to, I just would need to work on that.
But I'm sure the chat's probably saying whatever they, you know, are saying positive or negative.
But I really don't have a good answer.
You're an American.
I'm sorry, you're in America.
You don't have to be embarrassed.
It's like most people, but it's just sometimes I hear that and I just wonder, like, that seems like it would be the most helpful to those problems, you know?
But you're in America.
That's not, it's not abnormal here, you know.
Yeah, true.
You know, I mean, I mean, I don't have a good answer to that, you know, honestly.
I think, you know, I would be sitting here all day every day, probably making a million and one.
Like, yeah, I get it.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard.
It's really, it's really hard.
Like, if it wasn't, more people would do it, you know.
Well, I mean, I kind of feel like I'm not the only person that's going through like these problems more or less.
I mean, you know, but yeah, I just, I don't know if I have a proper response for that, but it's okay.
I mean, yeah, I mean, at least, you know, I do appreciate the honesty with pointing that out, though.
Well, you know, well, it's just like the way I think maybe is a little bit autistic too, where it's like, I just keep thinking of like solutions, maybe there's stuff that would help.
And I'm like, you're not a bad looking guy.
I'm like, if you just lost weight, I think it would help a lot.
Yeah, I think it's a matter of, again, just trying to continue whatever journey I was mentioning about self-awareness and working on things.
It's just a matter of finding out what those solutions are.
I mean, I know one thing's for sure is that I've been through like a million and one things, but it's like I've like told myself, you know what?
I just don't want to give up, even though I feel like doing so.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thanks for sharing.
I didn't mean to offend you.
I'm sorry if I did.
No, you know, I mean, you know, at the end of the day, neither one of us are like, I mean, I know you've mentioned before that, you know, you were an athlete.
So I don't take it personal, I mean, or anything like that.
I think, you know, neither one of us are, you know, doctors.
So a doctor, I think, you know, would need to have that, you know, serious conversation.
But thank you for at least, you know, taking this time out and whatnot.
And yeah.
Well, thanks.
Thank you.
Thanks for calling in, Gabe.
Yeah.
Have a good day then.
You too.
That weight can turn to muscle.
That's what I didn't pay anybody to cam up.
Guys, I wasn't trying to be mean.
That's what I was trying to say.
Like, you know, he didn't have a bad face.
I'm like, I don't know if you get, you don't need to see a doctor to lose.
I'm trying to be nice.
I don't know.
The he fell into the river.
Look, what helped me personally, I'm going to tell you guys, I've lost weight in the last couple years.
Now, mind you, there's better channels you can get this advice from.
So please go somewhere else.
But I'm going to tell you what's helped me.
So when I couldn't lose weight and I could not figure out why, what I found is that I was drinking my calories.
And I still do drink coffee.
But what I did was you have to think of like a caramel latte as a dessert.
And you have to think of like when I started putting carbs as the same category as dessert, meaning like you can't eat too much of them, I think it's like cutting carbs helps people lose weight because you even carnivore, vegan, all that stuff,
it seems like everybody loses weight when they cut carbs.
The other thing was I used to do extreme workouts.
So I would work out, I probably burned like 3,500 calories a day.
So I probably burned an extra 1,500.
It was so time consuming and exhausting.
And I realized I didn't want to work out that hard anymore.
And I was like, you have to figure out your eating habits.
If you want to like have kids and do the rest, you're not going to have time to work out like three hours a day.
It's just not going to happen.
And I just realized that you can outwork a bad diet.
Everyone that says you can't, that's bullshit.
I've done marathons.
That outworks a bad diet.
I've played semi-pro volleyball.
That outworks a bad diet.
But it's a part-time job.
And you can either be strict with your eating.
And so what I try to do instead, if I don't want to work out super heavy, is just 7,000 steps, 10,000, whatever you're at, just double it.
Anyways, so want to lose weight, stop eating pastry.
Yeah.
And this is the thing.
Like, you, I went to Panera the other day and I try to, I try to increase my protein intake and decrease my carbs.
And if you get a sandwich and you get the fries with it, it's like carb overload.
You can still eat the sandwich.
You just can't get the fries with it.
Okay.
So genetics play a big role in your life.
No, I don't believe that at all.
I don't.
I have a sister.
She's thinner than me.
I have a sister who's fatter than me.
The thinner sister eats less.
The fatter sister eats more.
We all have the same genetics.
Yeah.
I mean, calories, it look at they have all these different ideas of like better foods, worse foods.
And you know what?
I'll tell you this.
You will lose weight doing calories in, calories out.
But the problem is, if you're low on protein, you will still be hungry.
So I could eat 1,500 calories of straight carbs a day, but at the end of the day, I'm going to be starving.
But if I eat 150 grams of protein a day, then I'm not as hungry.
It is like you can do it with literal, like there's guys that have done it with Twinkies, but you are going to be so hungry.
So the fatter sister posts a lot of restaurant meals.
I mean, she just works out less and eats more.
Like, it's not, she's doing better.
She's losing weight, but okay, I think we have another person coming up.
Probably why Carnivore is good.
Oh, sorry, Panera doesn't have fries.
Maybe it was somewhere else.
No, oh, you know, it was Panera.
They had the bread with it.
It wasn't fries.
Okay.
You know what?
The people that, the people that understand what I'm saying get it.
Okay.
Let's not, let's just bring up the next person.
Hello.
Hi.
I don't see you.
I don't know if they're going to, I hear you, but I don't see you.
Oh, I don't have my cam on.
Is that all right?
Yeah, that's fine.
What's your, what should I call you?
You can call me Derek.
It's close enough to my name.
Can you hear me okay?
I can hear you fine.
So are you calling us?
Are you calling us somebody that has no friends, or are you calling us somebody that had a friendship that fell out?
Well, I guess I'm a mix.
I have had a few friendships that fell out, but recently the worst was my closest friend actually died.
He died last May.
We were going to go to that big Trump rally in the Bronx.
We're from Jersey, but he got hit by a truck.
He was only 32.
I guess this story was particularly sad because our friendship was more so a friendship of convenience.
Like I didn't have this friend I had, he was a washed-up guy, bullied, schizophrenic, balding, fat.
I might have been the closest friend he actually had.
He was the only friend that would call me every day.
And the way I found out he died was he went a full week without calling me, which is kind of sad.
But I guess in my personal life, I know your topic was parasocial relationships.
Were you just referring more to men having parasocial relationships with influencers and fictional characters?
Or are you talking about people you know in your own life, but don't really see that often?
I did touch a little bit on parasocial relationships with influencers, but what I meant more is maybe online friends that you met online and have never met.
So like, I think for guys, a common one I've heard is video games.
Like you'll play online with someone for years and end up becoming really close.
Like League of Ledge.
I don't know anything about video games, so I could be off, but like League of Legends.
I have a PS2 collection, so I don't really play online with a lot of people.
But I have noticed when you're talking about politics or niche topics, yeah, it's very easy to message someone.
I mean, I don't really have a lot of parasocial relationships because most of the people I talk to online, I actually did meet them before, like at a class abroad or some old meetup.
But then again, I have noticed with like cosplayers or people who follow the same interests, I haven't met them, but I will follow them.
They'll follow me.
We'll talk about stuff.
It's usually a shared interest.
So I see where you're going at.
I haven't been in that most extreme camp, but I've heard the horror stories about dudes simping, giving money, feeling like their best friend is someone they had never met.
Like my friend who died, he told me his first girlfriend was from Ohio.
And I'm like, have you ever been to Ohio?
He says, no.
Has your girlfriend ever come to Jersey to meet you?
He said, no.
Like, so how the hell are you, girl, girlfriend and boyfriend?
He's like, well, we were talking on my space.
I'm like, I mean, my friend was a good friend, but he was a hardcore simp.
Like, and again, a lot of that just comes from being lonely, being isolated.
I mean, not every guy with parasocial relationships was as bad off as my friend, but it comes from people not seeing you as someone worth being friends with.
And when you don't have many options, you take what you can get.
I don't want to project on him, but that seems to be the case with a lot of people.
And with your friend, like, what was his job?
Like, what did he do for a living?
Well, I don't want to say too much.
He was a theater grad at Rutgers.
I went to a school close by.
That's how we met.
He never worked in the film industry like he wanted.
He just ended up working delivery driver jobs for the last seven years.
Like, he would work six days a week, feed homeless people on Sunday.
His parents were relatively well-to-do, but between his disability and I guess his stubbornness, he just didn't see a way to get a better paying job.
So he would work these low-tier delivery driving jobs.
And what would you say his problem was?
Like, what did he put people off somehow?
Was he really awkward?
Like, what was there a character flaw?
Or like, what was the challenge?
I don't think it was a character flaw per se.
It was, I guess, I guess I would say a lack of selfishness because, okay, if you met him, he was like kind of fat, balding, but because of his schizophrenia, he wouldn't shower.
So if you met him, you might easily think he looked homeless because he frankly did.
Like, I mean, if you if you took the time to get to know him, you'll think, oh, this is a good guy.
He loves Jesus.
He's a trad con.
He loves Trump.
But when you first meet someone like him, you're probably going to think he's homeless.
Oh, and he had schizophrenia.
So would he?
I didn't know it at first, but he told me as a, I mean, he was one of the few people I had to hang out with.
Like, I wasn't as bad off as him, but in a way, I was kind of a loser too.
I was a fat guy.
Even though I was tall and losing weight, I didn't really have a lot of friends.
And I don't know, out of convenience, we hung out because he was also kind of my weed man at the time.
But how old are you?
Oh, goodness.
I'm old.
I just turned 30 last June, the dirty 30.
Oh, you're not that old.
The last guy that like two callers ago was like 30 is the new 65.
I know I saw the last two guys.
Okay, so how many friends would you say you have now?
Like, are you similar to him where you still don't have a lot of friends?
Or well, I guess I would say I have more acquaintances than like close best friends because like I have a certain group of guys who are also tall and uh Bible friends.
Like I'm an atheist now, but I've still managed to keep up with them.
But the thing is, it's not like Friends the TV show where Ross can go hang out with Joey and Chandler every day and meet up with Rachel and Monica and Phoebe.
It's like most of the time you're just texting a friend or you're texting an old buddy.
It's like a rare thing you can go meet a friend.
And so what are your social interactions like daily?
Like how often do you see people?
Are you happy with it or do you want it to change?
I'm not that happy with it.
You know, it's like it's rare to just link up with a friend and it's hard, honestly.
I mean, it leaves a lot to be desired in life, my existence, because to be quite frankly, it does feel lonely sometimes.
Like, I mean, I wish my dating life was better too, but sorry, that's my roommate in the background.
That's okay.
But I have to leave, Sean.
I want to be mindful to the other guests, but I always wanted to say, I appreciate what you do.
Like, there's not a lot of women that genuinely at least take five minutes to listen to men's struggles.
And I don't agree with you on everything, but I really appreciate you just taking the time to try to understand what men are going through.
Well, thank you very much.
And thank you for calling in.
You should call into the show again, maybe give a progress update if things get like better for you.
No.
Have you ever?
Well, it's my first time.
I was.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
You were going to be.
I was curious if you tried like salsa, karaoke, like if you've tried any events like that.
It was going to be, I know you have to go, but I was kind of.
I've gone to a bunch of meetups over the years.
I've won Halloween contests.
I've done stand-up comedy.
Like, are you on stand-up comedy?
I guess I'm making myself sound too doomerish.
Like, I have met a lot of people.
It's just you meet a lot of people, but I guess what I'm saying is more so quality over quantity, if that makes sense.
Like, I'm not some doomer who won't go outside.
It's like, no, I'll go to meetups.
I'll tell jokes.
People will actually fucking listen.
It's just, I don't know, like, you haven't, I mean, it's like you're meeting people, but are they going to turn into like your best pal, like your neighbor next door?
That's what I'm getting at.
Yeah.
Like, meeting new people isn't that tough.
It's just, are they going to turn into quality?
And how do you know someone won't backstab you?
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I guess I'll, I guess I'll give you one story that's on my mind.
I had a female friend a few years ago.
She was just leading me on, long story short, but I guess it hurt because she actually reached out to me after my mother died.
And okay, like I guess the thought of us becoming a couple kind of died, but I genuinely started to think maybe you actually care about me as a person.
Maybe you actually want to be my friend.
And that was kind of hurtful.
Like, I won't get into it, but it was kind of rough.
And I'm not so doomerous to think, oh, no, I can't meet other people or date other people I have.
But it's like when you go through that stuff, it's hard to really trust certain people.
Like, I haven't given up on humanity, but it's like those things do come with their headaches.
But I gotta get going.
I want to be mindful to the other guests, but thank you for having me.
Thanks.
If I can call in, I will call in again.
Thank you for having me.
Okay.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Okay.
It ruined my life, man.
We did it.
Okay.
I think that's the last caller we're going to take for today.
Yeah, but if anyone has an interesting story you think I missed, feel free to, you know, DM it to me and tell me what's interesting about it.
If it's interesting enough, maybe we'll continue it into next show.
Can't hear you.
I think, I don't know who that is, but I'm sorry.
We're ending the show now.
But let me read the super chats before we go.
Okay, so remember, guys, if you want your comment read on the show, make sure you go to theaudacitynetwork.com.
80 bucks a year, 10 bucks a month.
And I will read your comments.
You know, on most channels, you got to pay every single month, every single comment to have it read.
I just read it.
Dane says, Trump's puppet guy's problem isn't false accusation.
Oh, wait, I read that one already.
My nutritionist taught me to eat less than 45 grams of carbs per meal.
You know what?
Maybe I'll try 45.
I've been trying to cut it to 30, and I have had the hardest time.
I taught my mind to reduce hunger pains by eating once per day.
I could not do that.
Oh, no.
45 carbs.
What the F is that?
Ask Jeeves.
No link, Pearl.
A friendship is like a romantic relationship.
It requires work from both people.
They said F, Pearl, let him speak.
Guys, I can't take every single caller.
I can't like, okay, if you guys want me to take every single caller, I expect every one of you to go to my website and sign up and sign up for the yearly membership.
You know what?
How much funds do you guys think I have?
I've been demonetized for over a year.
I do the best.
It's like, do you think I just have hours?
I might get a bartendant, you know, like job.
You know, anyways.
All right, guys.
They spam the chat to let him in.
Next.
Okay.
Okay.
You want me to let him in?
I need 10 of you to go to my website now and get the yearly membership, and I'll do it.
10, 10 yearly memberships, and I'll do it.
Oh, oh, wait.
When I say put your money where your mouth is, then we're quiet.
Then we're quiet, aren't we?
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's oof.
Yeah.
Everyone's like, oh, no, Pearl.
No, Pearl.
We just want your time forever.
You might as well just stream 24-7 and take every single caller.
They said, this is me.
I'm not against it, but do you guys want What, like, I only have so much time for the show.
We are making it happen, Pearl.
Be patient.
Are you?
We're all demonetized.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I'll give you, I'll give, I'm going to do a timer right now.
I'll do a timer for five minutes.
You guys have five minutes because I understand it's a new website.
You can download the app on your phone.
I'll give you five minutes.
And this timer is going right now.
If at the end of the five minutes we get enough signups, fine.
Fine, I'll take another caller.
Look, Pearl, do you really need to sleep?
Yes, you can talk to that dude in five minutes.
I could, but I'd rather you guys pay me for it.
Pearl is hustling.
Hell yeah, I'm hustling.
And you know what?
You get access to all my old content and you're going to get access to my documentary.
And at some point, they said, wait 30 minutes.
No.
You know, I think I'm to the point.
I do love you guys.
I do.
But this sass, I'm not taking this anymore.
I'm really not.
They said, Pearl, I'm a new listener.
And you're already asking me for money?
Yes. Let's see. I'm going to.
I'm going to refresh this.
We're a minute in.
No.
No, we got three and a half minutes.
This is some Andrew Wilson level LARPing.
Fine.
Fine.
No, I wouldn't get the 10 and dip if you guys signed up, but you have three minutes left.
I'll tell you a story in the meantime.
What story do I want to tell?
One of the worst.
I think Shania Twain has one of the worst friendship stories I've ever heard.
Shania Twain, she had a husband and he cheated with her best friend.
What an L. You know, guys, and I always say I could forgive cheating.
Like, you know, everyone thinks I'm capping.
Look, if you love the guy and he steps out one time with a stripper, I mean, get over it.
Like, what, what, ladies, it's probably taking you forever to find a guy you like.
You just gotta, you just gotta get over it.
But if you cheat with a best friend, sister, mom, done.
Cooked.
Done, done, done.
Cooked.
Cooked, cooked, cooked.
They said, let him cheat in peace.
Women have a problem with cheating when it bruises their ego.
Look, Donovan, I'm completely, I'm with it.
But if you cheat with my someone I know personally, sorry, Donovan, I can't.
That's too far.
That is too, that's too far for me.
I mean, it's like you could cheat with all the women on the planet and you picked the three women.
I'm close.
There's like three women in my life I'm close with that they said, just don't allow her to find out and it's good.
You're an ass.
Donovan, I'm going to disagree with you on this one.
That will, if it's someone you know personally, now I'm not saying like an acquaintance, you kind of know, right?
But if you pick the sister, the mother, that's too far for me.
That's too far.
Oh, look at us.
All right, we did get an oh, we got two annual memberships.
I didn't think I'd get any from you guys.
You know what?
Oh, I'm not talking about cheating with someone she knows.
Never do that.
Only cheat with people she doesn't know.
All right, guys.
All right, guys.
I'll tell them if we get, if we get eight more, should I give you guys an extra five minutes?
F it.
F it.
An extra five minutes.
I need eight more.
No, You guys are trying to bargain me down.
You're trying to bargain me down.
You're trying to say, I said, hey, 10.
You guys gave me two.
Two.
And now you're saying Pearl.
Pearl.
Pearl.
Someone said Pearl is a six in look.
Pearl, do it for two.
No, I said 10 and I stand on 10.
Pearl is a six in looks and a 9.5 in personality.
Rounds up to a 7.7.
Solid gold.
Stop simping.
No woman's a 9.5 in personality.
Not even me.
Doesn't exist.
Doesn't exist.
I mean, that's even the best women, a 9.5 doesn't exist.
And I've met some really good women in my life.
I really have.
Everyone thinks I hate all women.
I just hate annoying women and stupid women, which is the majority.
That's not my fault.
Alex says, two years ago, I was 6'1 and 105 pounds soaking wet.
I started working out and I've gained 35 pounds and wouldn't go back.
I never knew the value of physical fitness because no one ever showed me.
All right, you guys, I've given you another five minutes.
There's three minutes on the clock.
I have two.
You know, I'm so if to the two people that bought it, you got to blame the other people in the chat if they wasted your money.
Otherwise, we'll try again next time.
I don't know what to tell you guys.
Pearl demands millions.
I didn't demand millions.
I demanded 10 signups.
That's not crazy.
She said no refunds.
Well, told you she got 10 and I didn't get 10.
You know what?
The people that want to misunderstand me in the chat, you can just misunderstand me.
Gaslight, whatever.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I'm done.
I'm done with it.
And sorry, someone replied to my tweet.
It was kind of funny.
I tweeted.
I said, I wonder if there would be less gay men if American women weren't so fat.
Because I was thinking the other day, I'm like, we're so fat.
Have we turned away the men into women?
And Mark Lowe Bliner says, I see your point.
I do.
But I think some men just prefer be this.
No matter how lean the man just isn't my thing.
Oh, too funny.
All right.
You got two minutes.
Two minutes.
To get a yearly membership.
Two.
two minutes no no no no this is i've given you guys 10 minutes to sign up now Now, I don't mean to be rude.
I mean, you guys don't have to.
But if you guys aren't signing up, I'm not getting paid from YouTube.
It's like, let me get this straight.
Let me get this straight.
You want me to go over my scheduled programming to make you happy for zero dollars.
Now, I do this for the love of it.
I love doing a show.
It's so fun to me.
I mean, I used to watch Ellen.
I used to watch Steve Harvey.
I used to love talk shows.
But you're asking me to go over the love of it and just do it forever, as long as you want.
But nobody works for free.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Pearl's new business is begging on YouTube.
Yeah.
You have zero listeners in your chat.
I mean, do you know what I mean?
They said, Pearl hates me.
She told me.
Never.
Can you do dono chats?
Is that something I should set up?
Dono chats.
Let me look it up.
Again, I don't need dono chats.
What I need, maybe I will, but what would be better, I just sign up to the website.
You're being way too considerate, Pearl.
I would have just bounced.
Oh, I'm about to.
And, oh, just ended.
Sorry to the two people that bought it.
I required 10.
I do love you guys, but I got to go.
And I'll see you guys a different day.
Thanks for watching.
And I'll see you guys later.
I'll see you tomorrow.
Same time.
Oh, wait, wait.
Also, I hope they didn't end it yet.
You can add your submission.
I'm going to link it in the comments.
Submit simp of the year and submit catfish of the year.