James Smith and Rob dissect a Kansas City "civil war" over state lines before mocking Kamala Harris's rhetoric and critiquing Ben & Jerry's hypocrisy regarding indigenous land. They debate Federal Reserve rates, advocating for precious metals and Bitcoin, while defending Tucker Carlson and RFK Jr. as imperfect but progressive forces. Smith predicts Ukraine's eventual defeat within three years due to Western political will, dismisses lizard person conspiracies in favor of real threats, and urges listeners to support the Free State Project or local libertarian elections rather than major parties. Ultimately, he argues that racial animosity is an agitator illusion and that minarchism inherently violates non-aggression principles, calling for community-focused action over radical polarization. [Automatically generated summary]
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Missouri Versus Kansas00:07:32
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Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network.
Here's your host, James Smith.
What's up, Kansas City?
How are we?
Oh, man.
This has been fun out here, huh?
Dude, I like myself in Kansas.
It just smells like barbecue and Chiefs fans.
No, it really does smell like barbecue.
Who the hell is having barbecue sauce, right?
Who did not get me breaks?
All right, you guys having fun?
Were you guys here for the stand-up show?
Yeah.
All right, I love it.
What'd you think?
All right.
We did our best.
Dave's about to film, so he needs that.
She goes, seriously, you guys think this is ready to record or what?
Because if not, I can cancel this whole thing right now.
I can't.
I swear Lewis just called me right when we started.
I was like, what's vibrating?
And it's Lewis.
It's like, hey, doggie, we went over budget.
All right, so me and Rob, we've been here.
We were here.
We got here yesterday.
It was our first night.
We had tonight.
Tomorrow is our last night.
What do we need to do in Kansas City before we get out of here?
By the way, I don't know why.
Dude, you just had the nerdiest reaction to that question ever.
He went, ooh, ooh, ooh, over here.
He was so excited in math class to be like, I know this one.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to pick on you.
What were you telling?
What was the answer?
All right, so the people...
Okay, the people seem to appreciate that.
And then a couple people, like, they put their dad's business out of business or something like that.
All right, let me try to get in on this.
What the fuck is Q39?
No, it's only.
I don't want to be.
Oh, it's corporate.
She said it's corporate.
She goes, that's that liberal, little trans your kids barbecue.
You don't want to go to them.
Sure.
You want to walk in there with some brisket and walk out with a butt plug up your ass?
Sure.
Go to Q39.
If you want real Kansas City barbecue, you come on down by me.
I don't think I trust either of these people on food.
You got the twink with the mustache or the thin hot chick.
These are not recommendation people.
Can I tell you, I had the opposite of you.
I was completely sold by both of them.
When he goes, that's the spot.
I went, well, this guy obviously knows what he's talking about.
And then she went, that's corporate bullshit.
And I was like, sounds like she's speaking the truth.
I don't know.
What do you, all right, audience, I'm not going to let these two dominate here.
Q39, is that what it's called?
All right, hold on.
Shut up.
Kansas City, listen to me.
If you think we should go to Q39, clap your hands.
And if you think we shouldn't, clap your hands.
Oh, man.
Your stock just plummeted like Target, bro.
You just got fucked up what you were trying to sell.
Little kids tuck swimming wear or something.
Well, all right, you fucking anti-establishment.
I hate Q39 people.
Where should we go tomorrow?
I can't understand you all at once.
Skinny white chick who originally objected.
What do you say?
I don't know Kansas City that well, but she said Joe's.
I feel like she's talking about her friends.
It's like my buddy Joe.
He rolls a mean blunt, and he has some leftover brisket from last night.
Okay.
Sounds like they're all hanging out with Joe.
All right, fine.
You need some what?
Let the woman speak.
This is a democracy, unfortunately.
This is a PTA meeting of where to eat.
Wait, they want vaccine cards still now?
Wait, today?
All right, a year ago is one thing.
If anyone asked for a vaccine card today, I would just be like, I have a heart irregularity.
Is that good enough to get in?
You really?
Still a vaccine card?
What?
Well, a year.
That's not a year ago, was it?
Dude, I just, I don't know.
Can you just, can you guys appreciate for me, and maybe this says something about Kansas City.
I came up here and asked the most generic questions.
And it turned into a fucking civil war before the question was over like, hey, where should we grab lunch?
And you people, not me, I didn't pit you against each other.
You people immediately went like, you should die.
You should die.
And we'll fight right now.
It became fucking Missouri versus Kansas in this bitch, real quick.
They're like, what side of the line are you on?
Isn't that a weird, that's a weird thing about Kansas City?
Is there another city, like another major city in the country that occupies like two different cities?
Okay, so that's okay, so St. Louis.
Now you say it's two different cities.
So it's not the same city, but they're both called Kansas City?
Well, that's fucking retarded.
Understand, from an outsider's perspective, that's confusing.
You're like, why would you even think it's the same city?
Because they're both called Kansas City.
And they're connected.
So what's the real Kansas City?
Okay, can I tell you what's a little what?
Okay, listen, I'm just speaking as an outsider, and I feel the Civil War vibe in here, so don't give me shit.
But the thing that's confusing about the real Kansas City being in Missouri is that the other state is called Kansas.
And that would lead an outsider to believe that Kansas City would be in Kansas.
Don't shoot.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, the first time I came to this Kansas City, I felt ripped off because I always thought it was in Kansas.
Like, I was like, what do you mean?
I've never been to Kansas.
I was in Kansas City.
I was in the major city of Kansas.
Like, when I found out that the Chiefs were not Kansas's team, I was pissed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If someone was like, I root for the Missouri Chiefs, you'd be like, was that in the 30s?
When did that happen?
Yeah.
Was that the New Orleans Jazz or something?
I just want to live in a simpler America where there's no mRNA vaccines and the Chiefs are the Kansas team.
Wow.
The crowd went for it, but I saw like three people in the audience who were like, Rob's going to die tonight.
Living in a Simpler America00:05:09
This was more contentious than any live podcast that we've ever started off.
I remember when we were in fucking Dallas and I was like, what's the difference between Dallas and Fort Worth?
And they were like, you're silly.
But here, they're like, what's the difference between Kansas and Missouri?
And they're like, your brain's being blown all over my fucking legs right now.
That's the difference.
I think this town just sucks and they've been drinking since noon.
It's probably a more on them thing.
That's what makes you guys cool, though.
I'll tell you that.
All right, so if you guys have never been to or seen a live part of the problem podcast before, we do it a little bit different than the studio episodes.
What we do is we talk about a few topics.
We try to talk about some shit that's funny but also interesting.
And then we take questions.
So if any of you guys want to ask a question, you will have your opportunity to do that.
And we'll have a lot of fun.
So how does that sound?
Huh?
Let's fucking have some fun.
All right.
Now, what should we start with here?
Hold on.
All right.
Don't jump the gun, Rob.
Kamala Harris.
A brilliant, you said she's hot?
Well, we're not going to Q94.
I'll tell you that shit.
This guy thinks Kamala's hot.
That is.
You just, Nolan voided any of your opinions.
Well, I don't know, Rob.
If that guy says, hey, everyone needs a gun.
I'm like, that's it.
I'm knives.
I'm a knives guy now.
I don't know.
Some people think she's hot, like Montel Williams in 1994.
I thought she was hot in 1994.
She was always dicks to the top.
Are you kidding me?
She did.
1994, Kamala Harris.
She was working it.
She was working it, that's for sure.
Huh?
What was that?
Oh, yeah.
No, she fucking really.
You got to kind of respect it.
You got to kind of respect that she was just blowing random dudes to the point where they were like, I don't know, you want to be vice president?
What the fuck are we doing?
What are we doing here?
Listen, I don't know exactly what to make of Kamala Harris.
I don't think she's as dumb as she comes off.
It's so dumb that you're like, she's doing this intentionally.
I think she's taking Biden's meds.
You know that Coke that they found in the White House?
Are they sure it wasn't Molly?
Because when you listen to Kamala Harris talk, you're like, this sounds like, listen, just play this clip and you tell me what's happening here.
Really powerful influencers that represent, you know, television shows from country to musicians.
Mark for us.
So can you talk to us?
Because, you know, we are in the room, in the epicenter of black culture this weekend.
And there's a lot of folks in here, in particular black women.
How y'all doing?
Can you pause it for a second, Rob?
I just want to make the point.
They want to protect their rights.
They want...
For the record, there's also a lot of black women in here.
I count.
Ah, fuck.
I was really hoping for one.
I was really hoping for one, and then I'd go, you can back me up on this.
Little did I know we were in Missouri.
My show.
All right.
To be able to move and channel their energy in very intentional ways.
What are some of your ideas as to how we can do that?
And how important do you think culture is in particular?
Just pause it right there because I want to say I think that that was an excellent question from that syrup bottle.
And I don't know what that is.
Just from what we were talking about before.
Please, Daddy.
Yeah, shit.
What are the odds we paused on that face?
That one's a gift from the gods right there.
It was.
You know what?
I changed my mind, sir.
We're going to your restaurant tomorrow.
We're going to that corporate barbecue.
Her mouth is just asking for it.
Let me get a little bit of those ribs, TM.
All right, let's play.
So here is Kamala Harris's answer to that gibberish question.
Well, I think culture is a reflection of our moment and our time, right?
And present culture is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment.
And we should always find times to express how we feel about the moment that is a reflection of joy.
You know, it comes in the morning.
We have to find ways to also express the way we feel about the moment in terms of just having language and a connection to how people are experiencing life.
The Perversion of Strength00:08:48
You know, as someone who speaks for a living, I'm so envious of her ability to just be like, it's almost like her brain checks out and she's like, I'm going to go on autopilot mode right now.
And you know, somewhere in there, her brain is like, we're just fucking doing this, you know?
Like, am I right?
And she's like, culture is just how you feel and how you feel is what you do and what you do is how you feel.
And that's now in the morning.
She's just like, you're the vice president of the United States of America.
And she's just fucking rolling.
Like, you haven't said anything, you psychopath.
I feel like maybe she's cooler than we give her credit for.
And before she goes on stage, she just takes a hero dose of mushrooms.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
That would at least make sense.
Because this sounds like any time you've been with your friend and they think they're like on all the drugs and they've just figured out the universe.
This would make Rob perfect sense if at the end of that statement she went, I'm sorry, I'm tripping my fucking paws off right now.
I'm just sorry.
What was the question again?
Because I was talking about moments and time and things that you can't comprehend.
I'm just saying they found drugs at the White House and everyone's blaming Hunter Biden, a stand-up gentleman, if you ask me.
And I'm saying, no one's looking this way.
Like, what is she on?
Something good.
It's something fantastic.
And I just can't.
Now, this is not, here's the thing.
I've seen other videos.
Like, I don't exactly remember.
But before Kamala Harris became vice president, I remember seeing, like, little clips of her when she was like in the Senate.
And it was never this.
Like, this is something new.
Like, is Joe Biden's sonality like contagious?
Like, is she just around him too much?
And she, because I just don't, I genuinely don't understand.
And I don't believe this is real.
I think this is, I think she's decided she's playing this character.
Why?
I haven't figured that out yet.
But she is, there's no, no one her age is actually that stupid that they couldn't have.
If I asked any of you the dumbass question that fucking Oprah just asked her, you could come up with a way better answer.
That was Oprah?
I thought that was the dad from Family Matters.
I just figured he transitioned.
Is that not who we were watching there?
You see, Steve, I'm a cop.
Right.
And my daughter's not interested in him.
Sorry, no one watched Family Matters.
Anyway, even at that dumbass question, any of you could come up with a better answer than that.
That's just gibberish.
It seems intentional to me.
Like, she's trying.
I think at a certain point, these politicians realized that dumb people outnumber smart people.
And we're playing.
This audience.
Yeah, exactly.
Like the fucking, I don't even know which side to go.
It's like the Missouri side versus the Kansas side, you know?
There's more of the dumb.
I'm not going to tell you guys which side I'm talking about, because I'd lose half of you.
But they're just like, we're just going to say dumb shit, and that's more important than appealing to smart people.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong.
But how do you explain this?
Does anyone have an explanation for this?
What is this?
You're saying someone who's dumb enough might just nod their head and go, that was great.
She goes, that makes me feel smart.
That makes me feel like I totally get it too.
I could have given that answer.
Culture is what we say, and what we say is what's culture, and joy comes in the morning.
Wasn't that pretty close to what she said?
You're saying people that don't make sense make sense to each other.
It's like a different language.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly right, Rob.
What do you, Rob, what do you think, black culture?
Well, here, let's let maybe she rallies.
Think about it in that way, too.
And we also, I think it's very important that leaders, anyone who considers themselves a leader, really understands how anything they say would affect a real human being as opposed to, you know, otherwise be a poet and write poetry.
But if you want to understand, I don't mean to dismiss poetry at all.
If you want to.
She had to take that back because she might have dismissed a poet.
Dude, that is so funny that she just literally went, she went, you have to say what you mean, mean what you say, otherwise it's just gay ass poetry.
I mean, poetry is cool.
I didn't mean to just like shit on poetry.
Yeah, someone instructed her, make sure to say nothing because you might offend someone.
Yeah.
It's like someone was in her ear and she goes, otherwise it's just poetry.
And they were like, poets are a huge part of our voting block.
And she's like, oh, no, they're cool.
Understand any concept.
You have to ask questions like, how would this affect a child to have a real understanding of what it is that you propose?
And culture helps us do that because you sit down with Kiki Pong.
Hold on.
I'm sorry.
Imagine having to be that.
Imagine having to be that woman and just nod sincerely.
Like as she's just spitting out this nonsense and you just go, yes, girl, yes.
That is exactly what.
Child, that is exactly what I was thinking.
Like, what are you doing right now?
You almost want to stop the whole, like if you were there, you want to be like, okay, everyone stop you.
What are you nodding sincerely about?
What did she just say that hit a nerve with you that you went, that's a great point?
There was nothing.
That would be the greatest heckle ever.
Excuse me.
I don't know what the fuck she just said about a variety of issues.
What's funny about that?
It's important also just to be present.
We have to be present.
And in this moment, I think there's a perversion in some ways about what it means to have strength.
Some people would suggest that it is a sign of strength.
All right, you know how like they have movies with different timelines and then you get like your back to the future movies and people like go back and kill Hitler?
Maybe like in some other timeline, Kamala was evil in the future and they went back, found the baby and dropped it on its head.
And now in our timeline, we have this.
I'll tell you, I've thought about that exact point many times.
And we are definitely living through the timeline that wasn't supposed to happen.
Like we are living through the timeline where Biff is a billionaire.
Right.
And none of this is supposed to be real.
Right.
Like we're, yeah, Donald Trump found an omniac in fucking 1954 that he wasn't supposed to find, and everything's been fucked up.
Donald Trump should be the doorman at one of those hotels.
Yes.
Like, that's the job for Donald Trump.
Yes.
This is all of this stuff.
I'm so good at opening this door.
And you just go, I'm sorry, that's Trump.
He just does what he can.
And he's like, when you open the door, you can grab him by the pussy.
No one even cares.
No one cares when you're the doorman.
They let you do whatever you want to do.
That's what's supposed to be.
You fuck that lady so good.
I got the best Christmas bonus.
Okay.
Donald Trump is supposed to be a doorman.
Kamala Harris is supposed to be like in a Ja Rule video.
That makes sense.
Joe Biden is just supposed to be a crackhead's grandpa.
You know what I mean?
Like none of this is supposed to be happening.
He's supposed to be fighting to get his boy out of court type thing.
Like that's the real wholesome Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Oh, come on, judge.
Come on, man.
He didn't really know.
Yeah, he had his crack with a gun.
But what are you going to do?
Oh, my God.
I could see her in a jaw rule.
That's a good call.
With a raspier voice and jaw rule.
Yeah.
Her next line should be, what would I do without my paper?
Based on who you beat down?
By the way, for you guys who are fans who know me, just so you know, my jaw rule impression and my Louis J. Gomez impression are identical.
There's no difference.
What would I do without you?
Just based on who you lift up?
Oh, she got some snaps.
Dan Bongino's Partisan Case00:09:56
Wow.
That got an applause break.
Yeah, just nothing until you end in a punchline.
Is there someone there with a gun to the crowd fucking clap?
I'll tell you, I've done stand-up comedy for a long time.
You have too, Rob.
And we've both been in moments, like, when you're on stage and maybe you're a little drunk, and the bit you're doing just isn't working out, and you just find yourself just saying words, and you're like, let me just wrap this up.
And then you just end it.
And for her to pull off just ending whatever that stream of conscience nonsense was and then get a big applause break after that, I can relate to what her moment was when they started clapping where she was like, you.
Yeah, I can't believe they went for that.
I wasn't prepared to answer questions about culture today.
That was a real stumper.
Wow.
I'll tell you, I kind of, if Joe Biden doesn't end up running for re-election, because, you know, there's a strong chance that we find out that Joe Biden has been dead for years and this is a hologram.
And if that does happen and Kamala Harris runs, I'm okay with that.
It's going to be so entertaining.
Can you imagine just this campaigning for president?
It'll be great.
And you know what?
If that wins, then as a country, we deserve whatever's coming to us.
I don't know.
I can't really argue with it.
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All right.
Any more thoughts on this psychopath?
No.
I think we covered it, which leads us to the other guy doing drugs at the White House.
Oh, we don't know who that is.
Right.
This is a reasonable theory that it's been Kamala all along.
Well, so what's the actual story here?
They found some cocaine at the White House.
Which look, to be honest, I just recently found some cocaine at my house.
Now, I blame my four-year-old.
I think she's running with a bad crowd.
But it might have been an old locker bag that I had.
I don't know.
They found some cocaine.
Yeah, at first, they said it was in the library.
That's right.
Trying to pretend like maybe they were doing some studying, you know?
Just trying to get some work done, brushing up with some farm policies.
I just fucking read Lincoln's autobiography.
Let me fucking tell you this guy had some shit to say.
But then they quickly retracted that and said that it was in a different location.
And it's still inconclusive who was doing cocaine at the White House.
That's the official story.
It seems like they're not even really trying to figure it out.
So, okay, so Dan Bongino, you guys know him?
All right.
Are you really fucking related to him?
All right, relax.
You just like him?
He's all right.
So he, now he's kind of become, he's become like a, I don't know how to describe him.
Like a Sean Hannity apprentice type, like the next kind of right-wing radio host.
He left Fox News recently, but he used to be a Secret Service agent.
And he worked at the White House for a while.
So he said, and I don't know, so I'll defer to him.
You know, like maybe he's right.
He goes, look, there's no way anyone could bring cocaine into the White House.
Like they fucking search you.
I've never been to the White House.
I don't know if this is true.
But he was like, you're not getting cocaine into the White House unless you're a family member.
Because they don't search the family members.
And if a family member of Joe Biden had cocaine, we all have some initial thoughts on who that family member might be.
He has one family member in particular who's known to dabble.
Now, I don't know.
Dan Bongino is a little bit of a partisan, so he might be overselling his case.
I don't know.
Are they really, like, if you just visit the White House, are they really, he's saying you can't get cocaine in there?
Like, cocaine is pretty easy to hide.
You know what I mean?
I think if you really want to... I hide it up my nose.
If you don't check Rob's nose and butthole, then you're going to miss the cocaine that Rob has on him, all right?
It's like a perfect signal.
I like one psychopath over here.
You know what?
I want to go where she said for barbecue.
This check's a good time.
That's how you recycle it.
You boof it, suck it back out, and sort it up your nose.
So I don't know if any of that's right.
But I will say this.
And Spike Cohen tweeted something about this the other day.
I love Spike, by the way, if you guys don't know who he is.
Great.
Yeah.
All right.
A lot of you know.
Great fucking libertarian.
And he tweeted this.
And it was kind of like, in some ways, like the basic libertarian point.
But at the same time, sometimes you need to be reminded of that stuff because you'll almost get away from it.
But really to me, the story of all of this, which is so crazy, is that, dude, look, cocaine is this powder.
It's like this fucking little, this substance that's a powder that makes Rob feel like he's on top of the world even though his dick doesn't work.
Right?
Whatever.
But there are in there are hundreds of thousands of people in this country.
In every city, in every state of this nation, there are people, human beings, just like all of us, locked in a cage for decades over having this powder.
Like, they will send fucking SWAT teams into your fucking home and shoot your dog and traumatize your baby and fucking wife and all this if they think, if they suspect you have this powder in your home.
And yet they found this powder in the White House and there's not like a lockdown.
There's not a review of every fucking camera.
It's just like, eh, we found it here.
Shit happens.
Like isn't that fucking insane?
Isn't that like the most blatant example of like this two-tiered system where like what they would do to you versus what they would do to their own?
Like if as soon as they think it might be someone important who had this, we all know no one's going to jail over this shit.
No one's life's going to be ruined.
But if it were you, they would fucking like they would literally drag your kid away from you.
Then if you tried to resist, they'd kill you over this shit.
Over this dumb little powder that makes all your bad thoughts into good thoughts.
No, I'm just kidding.
You shouldn't do it.
But if you do, it's a rush.
Anyway, I'm just saying, they'd murder you over this.
But they'll fucking, this will just be kind of, and that's what's crazy is that there'll be a lot of people like, look, the Dan Bonginos of the world will be like, no, this was definitely a family member and blah, blah, blah.
And this, maybe he's right.
The progressives will be like, this is a non-story.
Some visitor, you know, had it or whatever.
But really, you're like, no, the real story here is like, how do you guys, the government, get to wage a war on us?
And then when it's you, fucking nothing.
Nothing happens.
You know what I mean?
Like, fuck.
Like, I want to choose my words carefully here.
Because I want to remain on YouTube.
I'm just saying, like, people will be like, oh, January 6th was so fucked up.
And yes, it was so fucked up.
The worst thing that's ever happened.
But sometimes when you think about shit like that, you're like, what do they deserve?
Like, what does a group of people who would do that to you and then let themselves off the hook for that deserve?
You know what I mean?
And I want to stay on YouTube.
So the answer is nothing.
They deserve nothing.
Nothing but good things.
We should trust and believe in them all the time.
Reagan and Nicaraguan Drug Dealers00:15:11
I think that was a safe enough way to put it.
Is that good?
Yeah.
Trust and believe in them.
So I got two other videos on the topic.
One was Rob is my Jewish co-host goes.
We should move on.
So this is Hunter.
Well, there were two.
Hold on.
Stay right there.
Yes.
What the fuck is going on with Joe Biden?
I mean, look at this guy.
He looks like he could melt at any moment.
Look at the way Jill is looking at him.
She goes, honey, you're melting again.
All right.
So there's two moments here.
Hunter is right there.
Yeah, there's two moments where he turns around and it looks like...
He's like, hey, you want to shoot a gun and knock cocaine off my dick?
Well, he is talking to his younger cousin, so that's a possibility that that is what he said.
Hey, you're a 12-year-old girl, so.
Oh, guys, you can catch this episode on Rumble.
Look, look right there.
Wait, what?
All right, hold on, play it again.
God damn it.
He probably had a booger.
Let's not.
And then here's the judge.
They kind of cut it up.
All right.
Fair, fair.
Listen, that doesn't prove anything.
How are you supposed to listen to music like that and not do cocaine?
So I blame the DJ.
I don't know if you want to, but I did pull, there's that famous speech of Hunter Biden talking about increasing jail time for people doing cocaine.
Let's roll the tape.
But let's look at the facts.
Since 1986, Congress has passed over 230 new or expanded penalties for drug and criminal offenses in this United States.
230 new penalties.
And these penalties range from an automatic five years in jail for any person caught with a rock of crack cocaine, a piece of cracked cocaine as small as a quarter.
I don't have a quarter with, maybe if you visualize what one looks like.
Yeah, I do have a quarter.
He was even dumb.
You have a piece of crack cocaine no bigger than this quarter.
Looks like a dime, by the way.
One quarter of one dollar.
We passed a law through the leadership of Senator Thurman and myself and others.
A law that's going to be that you go to.
By the way, when he says with the leadership of Senator Thurman and others, you know who Strom Thurman was?
You guys know, right?
He was literally a fucking hardcore segregationist who like, into his old age, said the worst thing that America ever did was abandon segregation.
So like he was great.
I'm just saying that he's...
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
He was not.
Did you not see the statue of him in the parking lot?
So anyway, Joe Biden would besmirch this hero.
No, I'm just kidding.
But like, so this is what Biden was in the 90s.
This is 91.
And he's talking about how he's the hero.
Biden before this in the 80s used to call out Ronald Reagan for being like too much of a left-winger.
That was Joe Biden's position that he like ran on to Ronald Reagan's right and was like, you got to up the jail time for drug offenses.
This was his whole fucking career.
And then, see, this is the thing.
You know, sometimes there'll be those tapes, which by the way, I do kind of actually, for as much as I fucking despise Joe Biden and think he should fucking burn in hell for eternity.
You ever hear the recording of when he's leaving that voicemail to Hunter and he's like, I love you, buddy.
I hope you're okay.
We're really worried about you.
I do, I get that.
Like, I'm a father, and I understand this is him, like, his son has a drug problem, and he's trying to help him.
But you're like, yo, after all that, you never come out and go, hey, maybe I was wrong for spending 30 years before that saying anyone who had a fucking nickel of cocaine should have been locked in jail for five years.
Like, you never go, like, maybe that was kind of fucked up, because I wouldn't want that to happen to my kid because they were a drug addict.
So, like, I, like, if he came out and had that moment, I'd totally respect that.
I'd totally be like, hey, okay, I get it.
You didn't realize until it touched your life that it was like that thing.
But he just has that and then continues going on, and then he's bouncing a baby in front of his crackhead kid to this day.
All right, he wasn't bouncing the baby, but someone else was.
What does bouncing a baby mean?
You don't remember the last video?
They were bouncing a baby in front of him.
That's what Joe Biden was staring at the whole time when Hunter dipped off.
All right, whatever.
It's funny.
I didn't even notice that.
All right, let's keep playing this one.
And then we'll go back and show Rob the baby.
They got to turn them into Kamala, you know?
Jail for five years.
You get no probation.
You get nothing other than five years in jail.
Judge doesn't have a choice.
Now, the fact of the matter is, we've gone from there all the way up to saying, under the leadership of Senator Thurman, and I'd like to suggest that I take some small credit for it myself as well and others, the presiding officer, that there is now a death penalty.
And we passed it a couple years ago.
If you are a major drug dealer involved in the trafficking of drugs and murder results and your activities, you go to death.
And a number of other severe penalties.
We changed the law so that if you are arrested and you are a drug dealer under our forfeiture statutes, you can, the government can, take everything you own.
Everything from your car to your house, your bank account, not merely what they confiscate in terms of the dollars from the transaction that you've just got caught engaged in.
So here's fucking another crazy thing, right?
You guys ever heard of the Iran-Contra fucking scandal, right?
So literally, this is a few years after that.
This is only three years after all that fucking shit went down.
Maybe a little bit more than that.
Three?
No, yeah, about a little bit more than that.
Five years maybe after that.
So basically, and this is a fact now, right?
That Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush got caught for sponsoring fucking Nicaraguan drug dealers who shipped cocaine into America.
Like a huge aspect of the crack epidemic was that our fucking government was, so they basically they were fighting the fucking commies in Nicaragua.
So the Reagan administration decided they were going to sponsor them.
They were going to like support the guys who were fighting the commies.
But those guys were drug dealers.
And so they helped them as they shipped cocaine into America.
So the same time, yeah, they were cool.
But at the same time, as they were supporting these really cool Nicaraguans, they were launching this fucking war on drugs or ramping it up.
And so they're arresting everyone.
Oh, if you have a fucking quarter's worth of this shit, you're going to do a fucking five-year drug sentence.
But they were paying the people who were shipping it in.
Do you ever see the, what's his name?
The original.
He sent a movie about it.
Well, yes, he had a movie about it, but the original Rick Ross guy, I believe it was, not the rapper who took his name, but Freeway Ricky Ross, who was actually the drug dealer, he basically was the, he like invented the crack house.
Like that was, he was like the McDonald's of crack.
Like really, he figured it out.
He was like, hey, let's, like, he was like, let's use like an assembly line type shit.
And like, really, actually a brilliant businessman, but, you know, not in the best way ever.
It's less harmful than McDonald's, but still, it was bad for you.
But so he, he fucking did that, and he's, he went down, basically, and he, I think at a certain point was like, well, when they find out who my fucking supplier is, then that guy will really take the heat.
But then they found out his supplier was the fucking CIA.
And so he fucking, he went down and no one else did.
But that's what was going on.
So they're like, oh, when they find out you've been a drug dealer, we should take all your shit and send you to jail for life.
And it's like, well, how about you and Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush go to fucking jail for life for fucking dealing the most drugs as it tore through fucking like all these communities and they'd be arresting anyone, anyone with a little rock on them would go to fucking prison for a fucking decade.
And they were sitting.
Sorry, this started off funny.
This is going to get real real quick.
All right.
Let's move on because we get the point of how Joe Biden.
By the way, even Joe Biden back then, and you touched on this, he wasn't senile, but you can see in this, he was never bright.
You know what I mean?
Like, he was always dumb even back then.
And so what you're seeing today is a dumb, senile guy.
It's bad.
It's real bad.
All right, what do we have?
This was Ben and Jerry's.
All right, Ben and Jerry's, a lighter story.
And we all enjoy Ben and Jerry's.
We enjoy them as much as we do a quarter worth of cocaine.
All right, so what do we got?
So they tweeted on the 4th of July, the United States was founded on stolen indigenous land this 4th of July.
Let's commit to returning it.
I'll have the chocolate with rainbow sprinkles.
It's a heavy message to send.
When did we start wanting messages like this from our ice cream dealer?
Rouge goes, I'll have 2D Fruity.
But you're right, we shouldn't have done that to the Native Americans.
What do you think, bro?
What are we supposed to give it back now and all be alcoholics?
Well, he's got a point.
Thank you.
Yeah, the applause.
If anything, we saved the environment from those Indians that would have killed all the buffalo and burned all the trees.
Yeah, we brought the buffalo back, motherfucker.
Ben and Jerry should be thanking us as environmentalists.
It is so goddamn bizarre that Ben and Jerry's, like, doesn't it just seem like if Ben and Jerry's had a slogan and you were like working for them and you're like, what should the slogan for Ben and Jerry's be?
And you might think of something, you know, like you'd be like, our ice cream is delicious or something like that.
And they're like, no, I'm thinking like, you're all a bunch of murderers and rapists.
Like I said, you want to go with that?
And you're like, why?
When did we start doing this?
Like, first off, give me some fucking ice cream, you psychopath.
And then also, like, what does this even mean?
Oh, you mean?
We're supposed to, we, like, the United States was founded on stolen land.
Okay, so are you saying we should all give our land back?
Like, okay, you start by giving all of Ben and Jerry's back.
They can have Kansas City back.
No, no, no, no, not you guys, the Kansas side.
The Missouri, we're keeping Missouri.
I mean, not you guys, the Missouri side.
We're keeping Kansas.
Woo!
I go with the crowd, Rob, let me tell you.
I felt out the vibe there.
Kansas State, Missouri, you're done.
You go with Ben and Jerry's and the Indians.
All right, I don't care.
I'm just saying, but wouldn't it be like, imagine running some giant corporation and being like, this is on stolen land.
Like, so what are you saying?
I don't own my house anymore.
I got to go find a fucking Navajo or something and be like, this is your fucking house now.
Let me explain to you what a water heater is.
And then you'll fucking, you go to town on it.
I don't know.
No, it's not a god.
You don't have to pray to it.
Well, I'm imagining like a Navajo from back then.
The ones today probably know.
But they probably Nava know.
Anyway, that was bad.
But like, what do you want?
All right, so give all your shit back.
If that's what you're advertising, fine.
You're run by a billionaire, I'm sure.
I'm sure the people at the top of Ben and Jerry's are at least worth hundreds of millions of dollars, right?
So give all your fucking shit back if that's what you feel.
Ben and Jerry blew it all in gay sex, but...
Were they?
Were Ben and Jerry fucking?
Is that true?
Are you just making that up or is that true?
I just assume.
You don't have any real money.
One chick just went, that's true.
And let me guarantee something.
She doesn't know that.
But she had some fucking Kansas City balls on her.
You think a hippie company named Ben and Jerry's obsessed with cream wasn't gay people?
You know what?
That is an excellent point, Rob.
Maybe it was.
They're owned by a Unilever or Unilever.
I don't know how that's pronounced, but they're like one of the biggest corporations in the world.
There's something about that that like, if you're, you know, it's kind of like when there'll be like one person who's like a, you know, maybe like some white chick who's like a college student.
And she'll be like, I believe, I believe in affirmative action.
You know, I think like black people are underrepresented in universities.
And you're like, okay, so leave.
So you leave and give up your spot for a black.
And then if you did that and then went, hey, I think all of you guys should do that too, at least you wouldn't be standing on a mountain of hypocrisy.
You know what I mean?
At least I still may not agree with you, but I could at least go, this person really believes in something.
But when fucking billionaires will sit there and be like, this land was stolen and we owe them something.
So you give it back then.
You fucking give it back.
And then...
And you watch the Indians squander the opportunity.
And then, once that land is useless, you could, but you know, if you were to do that, then I could at least.
Nah, has corn in it.
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Yeah.
Like, I could, but I would, in all seriousness, I would, if there was a billionaire out there who fucking, listen, don't even give up your fucking bill.
Let's say you're worth a billion dollars.
Don't even give up your billion.
You give up half.
You give up $500 million and you go, this is all going to fucking.
Funding casino?
Yeah, this is all...
I'm putting this all over.
I'm going to show off for this one.
And I'm putting this all down, and I'm probably going to lose.
And if so, it goes to the Native Americans.
But if I win, I'm taking that shit.
No, but if you took half, you take $500 million and you go, I'm donating this to a Native American charity, and I'll keep the other $500 million and still live better than anyone, anyone in this room knows.
You know what I mean?
We'll live.
But I gave half of it.
I'd go, okay, that's pretty serious.
They gave that much back.
And then they went, hey, I think you guys should give up half your money too.
And at least I'd go, okay, they gave up something.
And they really believe in this.
But they're like, well, no, no, no.
I'm not going to give up anything.
But we'll post a meme to make the rest of you feel like shit.
Like, well, I'm worth a billion dollars.
I'll make the guy who makes 50 grand a year feel like you don't really deserve that 50 grand because in the fucking 1400s, something fucked up happened.
Like, it's just like, what?
Who actually fucking falls for any of this shit?
I'll tell you who.
Kamala Harris.
That's who falls for it.
She's like, yes.
And culture is about today in the morning.
I feel like they could at least be gracious and sensitive enough to run a campaign where they say free ice cream for red men.
You guys didn't give that nearly as much as it deserved.
I almost spit my whiskey out of my nose on that one.
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All right, let's get back into the show.
All right, Rob, you know what?
I think fucking, let's take some goddamn questions.
Let's move on to that.
Let's get the audience involved a little bit more.
And no questions about what my favorite barbecue in Kansas City is.
I haven't made up my mind yet.
All right, what do we got?
Okay.
So my name's Chris.
Your name is Chris.
Oh, shit, you wrote something out?
Oh, this is going to be tough.
Okay.
This is actually a good question for you.
With the Federal Reserve manipulating the money, interest rates through the roof, what should they do?
Wouldn't this be great if it ends with, who the fuck do you think you are?
Sorry, go ahead.
Okay, the Federal Reserve manipulating money, interest rates through the roof.
Yes.
What should the American people do with their money other than on your podcast?
You mentioned investing in gold.
You have the capital ad that you have.
What should they do with their money?
Shout out to my boy Keaton because he actually wanted me to ask you this.
He's a figure.
And then personally, what do you guys invest in?
Heshy Socks hasn't been a sponsor for years on the podcast.
That's great.
You go, my money is tied down in Heshy Socks right now, so I can't really comment on that.
We're working on a long tube.
Well, okay, look, first of all, interest rates aren't really through the roof.
They're only high compared to the last decade, which have been like crazy fucking low.
So now, I don't know.
Now, if you're asking me what my money is in personally, my money is what I've done is I basically, I hold some money in precious metals, I hold some money in Bitcoin and some money in cash.
Because my feeling right now is I kind of don't know where this is going to go, and I just kind of want to be prepared for every outcome as best as I can be.
So that's what I'm doing.
I don't know, I'm not really the guy to ask about that.
But that's the best.
I mean, I have like some money and I have some precious metals, like physical precious metals.
And then I have some Bitcoin and a very little bit of other random shitcoin stuff.
And then I try to hold cash.
Because it kind of all depends on what the Federal Reserve does.
And I can't really predict what they're going to do.
So I don't know.
But I do think my guess, which has been my guess for a long time, is that I don't think, I think this is going to end in them dropping rates back down and an inflationary track.
That's my guess, because I just think that makes more sense than the idea that they're actually going to try to pop this bubble.
But I didn't think they'd keep the raises going this long.
So I could be wrong about that.
We'll see.
A lot of it also depends on what happens with the next election and all of that.
So it's very hard to predict.
I don't know.
I think anything at this point, it just really depends on where you're at and what your financial situation is to give specific financial advice.
And even if I knew all of that, I'm really not the guy to do that.
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But I am the guy to make fun of you for whatever you do.
I'll do that as good as anyone.
I guess this is both of you, but you have a platform that you speak to a lot of people.
You are influential with the people that you're speaking towards.
What is it like in your personal life and the people that are close to you personally?
Do they respect your opinion?
Do you have long-form conversations with them?
I'm just curious what that feels like.
I know it's difficult just to discuss with people that are close to you.
Conversations like this, things that are difficult to talk about, hard topics.
What does that look like in your life?
My wife and daughter don't respect my opinion at all.
Like at all.
Which is crazy because I pay for everything.
And they'll still, I'll be like, I don't think we should do that.
And my daughter, I don't know if you guys have little kids, but my daughter watches Peppa Pig.
She likes that show.
And she'll literally go to me sometimes.
She'll go, silly daddy.
Which is a line on that show.
And I fucking hate that show.
Teaching these little girls to just not.
No, I'm just kidding.
They're great.
But they don't really care about my opinion.
Like, the people closest to me are my wife and my kids.
And whatever my political opinions are, like, my wife is like, oh, thank you.
Trying to fucking get me hammered over here.
All right.
Like, my wife's take on my political opinions is like, that's great.
What do you want for dinner?
And my daughter and my son is one, and he's with me on everything.
But he's, like, I just, he doesn't say it, but I get a vibe.
Like, he agrees with me on everything.
And my daughter is like, yeah, that's great.
Come here, daddy.
We're doing this now.
But in terms, like friends of mine and stuff, like, a lot of them do kind of like come to me when they'll ask me.
They'll be like, you know, what's going on with this?
What's your take on that?
My mother and my sister and my brother kind of have their own things.
Like my mother, my mother, like weirdly, and she's really, really smart.
And she basically thinks I'm right about everything, but won't admit it in front of other people.
But when it's just us, she's like, okay, so what's actually going on with this?
My sister thinks I'm wrong about everything.
My brother, like my sister's my older sister.
My brother's my younger brother.
And my younger brother's like totally like, yes, this makes complete sense.
He's always interested in my opinion.
So it depends on who it is.
But I'm very much the same.
You know, like you guys, you know my opinion as much as they do.
I tell all you guys what I fucking think.
And people in my life, some of them agree and some of them don't, you know?
So that's it.
I tell everybody what I think is, what I think is going on.
And some of them take it and some of them don't.
But I also think that I don't, I've learned a while, like for a while now, that it doesn't matter to me that my sister completely disagrees with me.
And it doesn't matter to me that my mother agrees with me, but pretends like she doesn't.
And it doesn't matter to me that my daughter thinks I just need a color with her.
That's not like the people in your personal life, you should leave your political opinions at the door and just appreciate what they are in your life.
You know what I mean?
That's more important than any of this shit.
All right.
Hey, Dave, yeah, so I have a question.
I know you get a lot of pushback from other libertarians for your appreciation for people like Tucker and RFK.
Now, regarding them, do you actually see them as being a good solution as in Tucker being the biggest name in news or RFK being president?
Or are they more of like it's better to have Saddam than ISIS type of situation?
That's actually a really good way to put it.
Well, I'll tell you, you know, I fucking, like, I argue with a lot of people on Twitter, and it's kind of a weakness of mine in some ways.
I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong.
I really don't know.
But I have, I, you know, I tweeted recently that my job is to make libertarians slightly less autistic and make normies slightly more autistic so we can all meet in the shallow end of the spectrum.
Like, that's kind of what I'm doing here.
But my spectrum-y weakness is that I will, if there's any libertarian who's making a libertarian argument that I think is wrong, I'm very quick to like go at them and go, well, no, that's why that's not actually correct.
And this isn't what, you know.
And sometimes maybe I do that too much.
I don't know if that's the right thing to do or I should just ignore them and not.
But, you know, when you say, okay, a lot of libertarians disagree with you on this, I think the truth is that a lot more of them agree with me than disagree with me.
And I know there's a lot of people who will be like, oh, you know, I've told me things that they'll go, oh, dude, I just see you're like fighting with everyone.
Like everyone's pissed off at you on Twitter.
But then really, if you look at it, you're like, I'm just fighting with all these people.
And they'll be like, you know, 6,000 people liked my tweet and 45 people liked this guy's tweet.
But I'm just fighting with him all the time.
And people are like, whoa, you're fighting with everyone.
And I'm like, well, no, way more people are agreeing with me than fighting with me.
So look, I don't think Tucker Carlson is a libertarian.
I don't think RFK is a libertarian.
I mean, they're obviously not.
But it's also obvious to me that the role they're playing is an overwhelming positive thing.
Like, Tucker Carlson is like moving right-wingers in such a better direction than like a Bill O'Reilly or someone like that would be.
And like, RFK is moving left-wingers in such a better direction than fucking Rachel Maddow is.
So, like, when you see that, it's hard.
It's like there are, so, like, I'm less autistic than these libertarians who just look at RFK and Tucker and go, they're both not perfect.
You're like, yeah, obviously, but still, I mean, come on.
They're so much better than the fucking, the machine that they're pushing against.
So why would I not like kind of, you know, like, it's almost like if you imagine, let's say, like, every country in the world had a 90% income tax.
And then there was one country out there who had a 90% income tax.
Every country in the world is a 90% income tax.
And then one of them goes, we're going to lower our 90% income tax to 10%.
And we're just lowering it down.
And then some libertarian came along and went, taxation is theft and that's still theft.
And you'd be like, dude, like, what?
I mean, yes, like, technically speaking, you are right, but can't we at least go like, this is really good?
This is a move in the right direction.
And then, like, there'll be like some other libertarian goes, oh, so you think taxation's okay?
And you're like, Jesus Christ, like, what am I in the fucking, like, invasion of the body snatchers here?
Like, yeah, I know, I know, it's still not perfect, but this is way better than that.
So I'm just, like, I'm like, well, the ones who lower, the one who lowers it to 10%, I'm going to be like, great job.
I'm not going to be like, hey, just so you know, that's still bad.
That's how I feel about Tucker and RFK.
And RFK is a fucking goddamn hero.
Like, for any libertarian who's giving me shit for supporting him, and I don't fuck, I'm not voting for him.
I'll fucking, I'll tell you this.
I'll donate to his campaign.
I will donate to his fucking campaign.
I'm not going to fucking, I'm not like saying I'll vote for him, I'll tell you to vote for him.
But what he's doing is a fucking heroic mission.
He's, this motherfucker is a Kennedy.
He could have an easy life completely made.
Do you know he has just gotten himself uninvited to every elite party?
He's got his own family turned against him.
He's making his life so much harder simply because he's telling the truth as he sees it.
And he's giving like liberals across this country permission to oppose what happened during the COVID regime, to be against the war in Ukraine.
That is a fucking goddamn heroic mission.
Russia, War, and Lizard People00:15:01
And we should totally support him on that mission.
Like we should, our role isn't to tell him that he's, hey, you said something bad about guns five years ago.
Like fuck that.
Who cares?
What's his campaign about?
If he wasn't running, it would just be fucking Joe Biden and Marion Williamson talking about crystals and fucking, you know, some dumb shit about chakras.
Like who the fuck cares about that?
So, and if it wasn't for Tucker Carlson, what would it have been?
Fox News would have just been, you know, everyone's celebrating the fucking war in Ukraine or something like that.
So like, I don't know.
I look at those guys and I go, okay, I like what they're doing.
You know?
So, okay.
What do we got?
Dead center.
That's what I thought.
I'm just checking out.
It's important to be present in time because time is the presence of...
No, no, okay, seriously.
Dude, I swear to God, I was about to rush to the...
I was a second away from running to the front of the plane and screaming, that guy's not real.
That's how fucking crazy that was.
I don't care what any of you say.
By the way, that thing...
By the way, here's a problem.
I'm sorry, I'm about to go to you.
But here's a problem when everything's so fucked up in society that everyone just wants to believe the counter of what's happening.
And as someone who believes the counter for most of these things, you do realize that was just a video of a crazy chick, right?
Like that guy in the hoodie was real.
Not bad.
But like, it's amazing how many people I see.
She's like, that guy's not real.
And my first reaction is like, there's a crazy bitch.
I've seen a lot of these in my life.
And then I see a lot of people, even people I like and respect on Twitter being like, maybe he wasn't real.
And you're like, I don't think so, dude.
But anyway, this guy's not real.
All right.
What is your serious question?
We've seen the Biden administration, they went from backing off on, we're not going to send High Mars, we're not going to send F-16s.
A couple days ago, they said, hey, we're going to send cluster bombs now, which are illegal in over 100 some nations.
Is there a red line that Blinken and the Biden administration won't cross?
And what do you think Ukraine-U.S. relations will look like three years from now?
That's a really good question.
And to your point, the cluster bomb thing, you know, there's video of Kurrine Jean-Pierre, just like last year, saying that using cluster bombs would be considered a war crime, you know, and now they're sending those same bombs over to Ukraine.
I think that the line right now that they won't cross is admitting that there's U.S. troops or NATO troops in Ukraine involved in this war, even though there are.
But they won't admit that.
That's kind of like their line right now that they won't cross, is admitting that we're actually at war with Russia.
And in a weird way, that's also the Russia is also happy to not admit that, even though they know that's the case.
They kind of say that, but they won't directly say it.
Because it's this weird game of chicken where for either of them to acknowledge that would mean they have to go to nuclear war.
And neither side really wants that.
So each side is playing this incredibly dangerous game of how far can we go before, you know what I mean, we like admit that we're at this level.
But it's much more dangerous for Russia because this is on their border.
For us, it's 5,000 miles away.
How far will they go?
What will it look like in three years?
My take on it basically is that they're playing the most dangerous game of Russian roulette that could get all of us fucking killed.
But it's still unlikely that that will happen.
It's a small percentage chance.
What I think this will look like in three years is that Ukraine's going to be totally leveled and Russia will declare victory.
I think there will be large chunks of Ukraine that are broken up, many of them under Russian control, and what's left will be left to Ukraine.
I don't know if it'll still be Zelensky.
My guess, if I had to guess, will be that he'll be gone and that it'll be some new kind of Ukrainian regime.
It's a sad situation.
I don't like, none of it's good.
Like, you know, people like kind of caricature my whole position on it.
Like, I fucking hate Ukraine or something.
I love Russia.
I think it's horrible what's happening to the people of Ukraine.
And I think it's, I think Russia is really fucked up in a lot of ways for what they're doing.
I do think they were fucking poked and poked and poked by NATO and the West until they finally fucking reacted.
And, you know, it's like Ukraine is essentially this kind of like pawn that was used to poke them.
And then they got fucking mauled.
You know what I mean?
Like by this pit bull.
It's fucked up.
But that is my guess.
I don't see any way that Ukraine wins.
Anything.
There are just more innocent people are going to fucking die for at least a little while now.
And then ultimately, I think the West will break because we're not actually willing.
Lindsey Graham came out today and said we should, Ukraine should enter NATO and we should pledge to defend them.
And I mean, come on.
But who in America is really ready to go fucking send their son to go fight and die for Ukraine?
No, we don't really, we don't have the political will.
We don't have the resources.
We don't actually have the weaponry to actually see this through.
If we wanted to do it, we could.
Like short of the nuclear threat, if the American military said we are going to invade Ukraine and stand right at the fucking border and push Russia back, we could do that.
But there's no political will to do that.
And we know that would be nuclear war.
So it's Russia is going to win.
No one really wins in war, but Russia's going to win.
And no one really wins in war at all.
But Russia will win in the sense that they get what they want of that country.
That's what I think happens in the next three years.
I could be wrong, but that's my guess.
Hi there.
So I'm wondering, what do people do if they want to take human action in Kansas or in Missouri?
What websites do they go to?
Well, I mean, if you want to be very strict with the sense, you are already taking human action by asking that question right now.
Thank you.
In fact, according to Ludwig von Mises, the rest of you sitting down are also taking human action because your action is deciding to fucking sit.
Because you're like, this is a waste of time to ask a question right now.
But if people wanted to get involved locally is my question.
Well, listen, if they wanted to decentralize, if they were focused on decentralization in Kansas or in Missouri, where would they go to?
Only decide would they go to?
You're using all of my trigger words.
Well, look, I love what the Mises Caucus is doing in the Libertarian Party.
I love those guys.
You can go to lpmisescaucus.com, lp.com slash, what is lp.com slash join.
All of, like, I love takehumanaction.com, all of that.
Decentralizedrevolution.com.
I think we have a lot of a lot of websites.
I love what the Mises Caucus is doing.
I think it's really important that we kind of have our own, like, people who believe in like radical libertarian principles should have our own kind of camp where we plant our flag and we do that.
And I love the decentralized revolution plan.
Michael Heiss is a goddamn genius and one of the best people I fucking have ever met in my life.
By the way, congratulations to him.
Just had his first baby, him and his wife, Emily.
Congratulations to them.
I think what they're doing is incredible.
And I've supported them since almost the beginning of when they were doing it.
Since pretty much.
Trying to procreate?
Yeah.
No.
No, that's it.
That's it.
That's the decentralized revolution.
But like, so I love them.
I think that's a great thing to do.
But I also, I think there's a lot of things you can do to take action against the insanity that we face.
And I think you kind of have to, you know, even like you were asking about financial advice, it kind of depends on your situation, what you're in.
But whether it's like, look, there's things like, if you're at like a woke corporation, quitting your job, or at least maybe if you can't quit your job, working on a side hustle until you can quit your job and you can stand up to like the insane mandates of your corporation.
That's something you can do.
If you've got kids, not sending them to the fucking woke school and fucking homeschooling them.
That's something you can do.
If you can't not send them to that school, at least really instilling in them the values so they'll be able to navigate themselves around that school, that's something you can do.
There's a lot of different things that you can do.
What they're doing in New Hampshire with the Free State Project, I think that's like if you can do that and move up there, I think that's something you can fucking do.
Or if you can start your own fucking kind of like free state community in your own area.
So there's lots of different like possibilities of what you can do.
And I do, I kind of have this Ron Paul like mentality about me.
I don't think my job is to tell you what to do.
I think my job is to kind of like tell you what I think the truth is.
And then you figure out what you're supposed to do with all of that.
But I do have, I support the Libertarian Party and the Mises Caucus and all those guys.
And I will never stop supporting them.
Like I just think they're fucking some of the best people I've ever met.
Michael Heiss, Angela McCarnell, you know, all of those guys.
Karen Ann Harlow, they're just all wonderful people who really believe in this shit.
And I always have their back.
Thank you.
Yo, Dave, lizard people.
Mm-hmm.
Where the fuck?
It's funny because it comes out of the speaker and then I got to go, where the fuck is the lizard person guy coming from?
All right.
We're going to have to teach people how to ask full questions.
Yes.
The last lady was just like, say it.
Say it.
Say the website.
The lizards?
Yeah.
And then this guy just went, lizard people.
Okay.
What about him?
I think that was his question.
I'm not convinced this guy isn't a lizard person.
Ah, shit.
That dude's not real.
Yeah, what about them?
How do I answer that?
Do they exist?
Are they in the government?
You know, the usual.
You know, the heroin section of Kansas City right here.
All right.
He's like, I don't have enough energy to finish this.
So if you could just work with what I already said.
If the question is actually, do lizard people exist in the government?
The answer is no.
That's the short answer.
But the longer answer is they're actually much worse.
They're way worse than lizard people would be.
That was crazy low right there.
Okay, so that was the bad barbecue spot.
All right.
So, and your barbecue spot doesn't, they're like, not, all right, fuck it.
But why are you telling me, you're telling me no.
Which barbecue spot are you telling me to go to?
You know what?
Jackstack, Rob?
That was, hold on, Rob, was that the one I fucking...
Jackstack, Rob, Jackstack is what we were told by the woman who drove us here who was, I'm just saying, a fucking an older black lady who had a, she had a real soulful vibe about her.
She picked us up to drive us.
Oh, say it, sister!
It was a real thing.
We were like, where do you think we should go to get barbecue tomorrow?
And she was like, child!
Let me tell you.
You want to feel the Lord?
Yeah, and we were like, all right.
I think that you're throwing terminology at me that I'm not prepared for.
I don't know where the fuck I am right now, all right?
All right.
Rob, who's the next question?
Hi, Dave.
Hi.
In my marriage, I'm more of an anarchist, and my husband's more of a minarchist.
Ooh, you spice it up.
And he often asks me how an anarchist society would enforce the non-aggression principle.
And so I'm just wondering, do you have some recommended readings I can read to be able to answer that question better than just the free market?
We'll figure it out.
What?
Well, I mean, okay, so if...
Like, if you're looking for recommended reading on it, like, just go to Mises.org and search Rothbard, Anarchy versus Minarchy.
And there's, you know, like, all the arguments are out there.
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But if your question is, and like, look, I'll say, especially as of lately, there's no time that I've ever cared less about the minarchy versus anarchy debate.
Just because it's like, look what we're living through over the last three years.
And you're like, I don't know, am I going to argue with a minarchist about how they haven't figured all the way out?
Or am I just going to be against the lockdowns and the vaccine mandates and the fucking threat of nuclear war with Russia?
But if we're talking about this, which I do enjoy these conversations, the idea of a minarchist saying to an anarchist, well, how are you going to enforce the non-aggression principle when what you're talking about is institutionalizing a violation of the non-aggression principle?
How do you get to look at me and say, how do you enforce that this doesn't happen?
You go, I don't know, by not institutionalizing it.
Like a minarchist government, a government, by its very definition, is going to aggress against people.
And if you're arguing that it doesn't aggress against people, we're not talking about a government.
Like that's essentially the distinction.
So what do you mean by a minarchist government?
Do you mean it's just like a night watchman state?
All it does is have police and courts and roads or something like that.
Well, how do they fund it?
Do they fund it voluntarily?
Because if it's not funded voluntarily, then it's violating the non-aggression principle.
And if they do fund it voluntarily, then it's not a fucking government.
Then it's anarchy.
You know, like, then it's what we're talking about.
If I can opt out of it and I don't have to fund it and there's no violation of the non-aggression principle, then that's not in conflict with anarchism at all.
So if it is, then you're talking about institutionalizing something and then turning around and going, well, how do you promise that it'll never happen?
And that's a silly position to have.
Like, I don't have a promise, but I have a better, you know, it's like, if I don't go around here and punch everyone in the face, how can you guarantee that no one here will get punched in the face?
Like, I don't know.
Start by you not punching them in the face, and then we have to figure that out.
That is a good question, but the starting point is don't do it.
Like, so that's essentially my answer.
But I can say, yeah, Murray Rothbard, For New Liberty, go read that whole book.
It's fucking great.
But, you know, right now there's, I think, more important things.
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Question from the side.
Left side, your left side.
Marco, Polo, Marco, Polo.
That's my right side.
Yeah, so I'm on your left side.
You're looking to the right.
I'm on your left.
Oh, shit.
Dude, that guy looks just like Rob Bernstein over here for a minute.
Dude, and also this guy was fucking waving.
Like, I think he was pointing over there, but from my perspective, he was just going, yes, dude, you fucking nailed it.
Okay.
I went, left side.
I go, that's my fucking right side.
All right, I'm an idiot.
Sorry.
What do you got?
All right, so we have the political on each side.
The candidates are rounding themselves out.
What would you expect?
Or as of now, there could be another COVID that comes in a year.
But as of now, what would you like to see from the Libertarian presidential candidate?
Well, I'd like to see a Libertarian presidential candidate get in there and really fucking put our issues at the forefront.
I think that's all we're looking for.
You know, this thing has gotten way more interesting than I think any of us could have predicted.
I don't think like any, like, I don't think any of us would have thought a year ago that there'd be like RFK doing what he's doing.
I don't think a year ago we would have thought that like Donald Trump would be, you know, basically getting indicted over anything they can indict him for.
It's a wide open, wild situation.
And I think the Libertarian Party should be working on, which is what I'm trying to help, like, kind of behind the scenes.
They should be working on someone who will get up there loudly and spread our like our vision for what we can do right now in the country.
And there's a lot of factors and a lot of different like, you know, there's a lot of possibilities of who that could be and what they could say.
But that's what the Libertarian Party should.
As far as national, as far as running presidential candidates, to me, what the Libertarian Party's goal should be right now is to put someone up there who can really kind of like insert our ideas into the conversation.
And that's what I've always been trying to do, whether it's in podcasting or anything else that I do.
That's the goal is to kind of get our message into that world.
Try to put it at the forefront and let people, allow people to consider this possibility, which so many Americans just still have never really heard and have never really considered.
So that's what I think we should do.
What flavor jewel pod are you smoking?
I always go with the Virginia tobacco.
And this is the 3% because Rob said they don't have any 5% here, which I think he might be lying about.
It was that specific story.
I can't talk for this whole shitty town.
Yeah, but when you were...
But you came back from the store and he went, I don't even think they have him here.
You went, I've been everywhere and I don't think they have him here.
And these fucking suck.
So if we can get the 5%, that would be awesome.
But yeah, that's what I find.
I'm trying to quit this shit soon.
All right.
One last question from the crazy aggressive.
This is the last one, and then we're done.
No, I think we got more time.
How are we doing?
Someone in the staff let us know.
What are we doing here?
Two more hours.
It's 11.07.
When are we supposed to be?
I think we could do another, the max we got is another 10.
10?
Another 10 minutes.
We could do another 10.
Oh, I thought you said 10 questions.
No.
All right.
All right, let's do a couple more questions.
All right, what do we have here?
Crazy contingency, the PTA meeting.
All right.
I'm on your side, by the way, ma'am.
Thank you.
You say that now.
Just wait.
So I'm actually a Republican and very involved in the Republican Party and have been for a couple decades.
But the truth is, is that I'm actually...
Hold on.
The truth is.
I want to go back into Iraq.
I stay registered Republican because I want to be able to have a vote and have more power with my vote than I perceive the Libertarians to have.
Here's where I'm going with my question.
I have found through my involvement that the truth is that there are many people like me that really align more frankly with the Libertarian Party.
I go to Libertarian Convention every year here in Kansas, blah, blah, blah.
So my question is, is there any kind of organized concentrated effort to try to, frankly, get people like me to move over to the Libertarian Party because there's power in the numbers and that's just the reality of how things are set up right now.
You guys as the Libertarian Party are at a disadvantage with the way things are set up.
But if there were more, if you had more volume, there would be more power in that.
And there are people like myself that are the low-hanging fruit, but there's not, it doesn't seem to be there's an organized effort to push to get that volume and numbers, which would give you more power.
Well, I mean...
By the way, I retract, fine question.
Well, the thing is, like, I get what you're saying, but also at the same time, you're here and you're hearing what I say.
So, like, is there a concentrated effort?
I mean, yeah, I'm trying to, I'm making an effort to get you to, but, you know, when you say you'd rather stay as a Republican because, you know, there's more power in your vote, I think the first thing you got to let go of is this fantasy that there's any power in your vote.
You know?
Like, there's just no, it's just not true.
And I get it.
You know, I get like having that view.
But there's something about like hanging on to one of these big teams where you're like, oh, at least I'm in the game.
You know?
But you're not in the game.
That's just silly.
Like, it doesn't matter.
I mean, like, I don't know.
Like, the state you're in is already going to go the party it's going to go.
And so I would actually argue that you're much more in the game if you drop out of that and go like, I'm in a position where I'll only support a Republican if they're a fucking good Republican or I'll only support a Democrat if they're a good Republic.
Okay, that doesn't exist.
But like, I'm just saying, but, you know, like, it's only like, I don't see a way to change things unless there's at least some people who fucking drop out of this system and go, nah, fuck you.
Like, we get what this whole game is.
We get what this game is.
We get it.
The Republicans say some good things, and then when they're in power, they fucking don't follow through on it.
And then when the fucking, you know, and then their job is basically to lose to the Democrats.
Like, you know, that's the game.
And if you want to keep playing that game, then keep playing this fucking two-party game.
But if not, then come over here and let's see what we can do.
And I'm not like promising the world or saying it'll be perfect, but there's just like, there's this weird fucking thing where people have, and believe me, I'm as guilty as you.
I'm not like saying like, oh, you're ignorant because you aren't.
It's just that like they have this attitude that it's like, well, we can't.
I'd be throwing my vote away if I voted for this guy or something.
I'm like, throwing your vote away.
Like imagine, you know, imagine voting for president and your vote is literally, what was it, something like, I think Donald Trump got 60 million or 70 million votes, 70 million in his last election, and Joe Biden got 80 million votes in his last election, right?
So the combination of that, that's 150 million votes.
So imagine you are one 150 millionth.
And then you go, well, I'm not just going to throw away that power that I have, you know?
And you're like, would it really be throwing it away?
Like, you were going to be the tiebreaker or something.
Sure, sure.
But at the same time, I'm just saying it's like, so, okay, so on that level, you have no power.
And in fact, I would argue on the national level, the most power you could have is to say, I'm voting for some other thing.
Because the more people that do that act might actually have an impact.
And then, yes, when it comes down to local elections, vote for the fucking best person that loses.
That's where you could actually have some power.
Like, you know, that's a problem in America too.
Is that it's a problem in the Libertarian Party for years.
It's a problem with Americans is that we all fucking give a shit about the presidential election.
But like, that's a rigged game.
What fucking matters is like, vote for your mayor, your fucking city council member, your school board member, like all of them.
Get someone really good to run for that shit who you know, like someone you know could win that.
There are so many goddamn city council spots and even mayor mayor spots and like school board, sheriff, positions that really fucking matter that the margin is like a hundred votes.
And like you could get someone who's like popular in your fucking town to run for that and they could win and really make a difference.
All that shit matters a lot more.
You know, whether all this, all this stuff about like whether you we all kind of fall into this like, I identify as this team.
I'm team Republican.
I'm team libertarian.
That stuff is just not nearly as important.
That's what, as you were pointing out, the Project Decentralized Revolution is all about is trying to get fucking local candidates elected to where they can be.
That's the most important thing.
All right, Rob, what do we fucking got?
Let's do it.
You want to do one more from the PTA table?
One more.
That was a good one.
I was wrong.
Thank you, by the way.
So I actually had a question for you, Rob.
Under your I won't allow it.
Sorry, Rob.
Under your free ice cream for the red man.
Wow.
Just the look of that.
That's the thing that you dragged on to.
But she was looking at you like, under your free ice cream, where's that big dick going tonight, Rob?
What are you going to do with that?
I like how she took my over-the-line racist joke and framed it like that was my public policy.
Like I just did a plan.
Yeah, I was actually running.
What's your plan to feed ice cream to all these poor black kids, Rob?
Does Elizabeth Warren get any?
Oh, that's well, who's done more for the Indian American community than that lady?
Showing representation.
Yeah.
All right, do one more.
No one else has gotten into Harvard from that community.
All right, do one more question, and then we'll fucking hand over here, right?
There we go.
Making it work here.
You have to hit it twice.
It really feels like the left and the right are just being radicalized and driven at each other so that the powers that be can take advantage, capitalize, expand, maintain their power, both at the national and the global level.
To some degree, I think the same thing that happens between Republicans and Democrats is happening between U.S., China, Russia.
How do we...
I'm kind of asking you to fix the world's problems here.
I'll do it.
How do we take human action to without aside from joining a political party?
Is there a website you would have to go to?
No.
No, real question.
In our daily lives, how can we make a dent in that?
Because it just feels like we're chipping away at granite sometimes.
All right.
That's a really good question.
And okay, first off, you're completely right on the idea that there is a concerted effort to divide people over things that don't really divide us.
That's something that's really important for all of us to recognize.
Most of the most divisive issues are things that people aren't actually divided over.
Like, they're just not real.
Like, there's actually not...
Okay, there's really not a crazy, like, divisive thing over race in America.
That's the truth.
Like, even here at this show, a Nazi gathering, there's not that much, like...
But that would be called that probably by some crazy left-wingers.
I don't think there's any person in this room who actually holds any animosity towards someone for being of a different race.
It's just not real.
And by the way, of that, like, whoever the other race is, you could, I'm sure there's a bunch of people who, like, you know, right-wing agitators who would be like, you know, these black people, like, really hate you for being white or something.
And it's not really true.
Like, I'm telling you, like, I grew up in Brooklyn, and I've been around every race in my life.
And when you actually, like, interact with other people and become friends with people of different backgrounds and shit, it's not that there's not differences in different cultures.
It's just that what you realize when you actually experience hanging out with all these people is that there's more that brings us together than drives us apart.
That's the truth.
And most people don't buy into a lot of this fucking bullshit.
Like, it's just not real.
Most people have very similar goals.
Whatever neighborhood you're in, whatever the racial demographic of that neighborhood is, most people are like, I want to raise my kids and I want them to have a good life and I want to live in a safe community and I want the same goals we all have, you know?
So that's important to recognize.
And it's important to kind of recognize that a lot of people are trying to pit us against each other for different reasons.
Once you recognize that, that's a big step in all of this.
Now, how do we combat the fact that they're trying to do that?
Well, a lot of that has nothing to do with a political move.
It's just be a good person.
Be a good person.
Be a good member of your family, of your community.
The more you do that, the more people around you will start listening to what you fucking have to say.
That's the truth.
Like, you know, no matter how, let's say, okay, I'm a libertarian, and I think libertarianism is correct.
If you are the fucking drug addict, like, flunky in your family, in your community, and you go, let me tell you all about libertarianism.
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You're not going to convince anybody.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter even if you're right about that.
They're going to kind of be like, what the fuck does this guy know?
I've been fucking paying your bills for the last five years.
You kind of have to like, you have to make yourself a good person who's actually taking responsibility in the world and actually helping other people and taking care of yourself as well as others.
And then people want to listen to what you have to say.
So that's kind of the first thing.
And then what you have to do is point this out to people.
A lot of other people will see this as soon as you kind of give them permission to.
That it's like, we're not actually all at war with each other.
Left-wingers and right-wingers don't really hate each other.
Because left-wingers and right-wingers don't really exist.
It's kind of all an illusion.
Like, there's some truth to it.
There's some truth to the fact that some people lean more left-wing and lean more right-wing.
But the truth is that most people that I know are just more concerned with like their life and their family.
And there's not that much difference.
What's really the difference is like who's in a city and who's in a suburb.
You know?
Does that make sense?
Like you just kind of have different things that are your issues that you care about when you're in this place versus that place.
And I think that's how we kind of diffuse this whole thing.
Stop treating people like they're your enemies and start focusing on yourself and making yourself a person that others would want to listen to.
And then we could really like make a difference.
Okay.
We started this off pretty funny.
And that answer wasn't funny at all.
All right.
Hold on.
Give him a second.
Well, I'm seriously not going to go to your barbecue restaurant, sir.
Wait.
Were you saying my stand-up started off funny?
And then ended up...
Hold on, let him cover for himself.
It ended with a great message.
Okay.
You know, I got to say, that started off seeming like a mean heckle and then it ended with the kindest heckle I've ever gotten in my life.
He was like, no, it started off funny.
It ended funny, but it was also a great message.
And then you're like, all right, this guy, I've never in 10 seconds gone from being like, I have to fight this guy to being like, this guy's my best friend that I've ever met in my life.
All right.
I get what you were saying now, and I appreciate you, bro.
Oh, shit.
This shit's rushing the stage.
All right, Rob, are we fucking, we're calling it a night on that one?
What an episode.
Listen, I appreciate you guys so much for coming out.
Listen, I will be outside in 10 minutes.
If anyone wants to take a picture or say what's up, I'll be out there in 10 minutes.
Thank you guys so much for coming out tonight.
Kansas City, I'm going to eat all the barbecue tomorrow, okay?