Clint Russell and James Smith dissect President Biden's speech, arguing it frames 74 million Trump voters as existential threats to democracy. They critique the ominous tone and military imagery as prelude to authoritarian measures like a Patriot Act II, noting the hypocrisy of attacking social issues while appointing justices who overturned Roe v. Wade. By labeling mainstream Republicans as extremists and invoking Holocaust comparisons, they conclude the administration is executing fascist maneuvers to suppress opposition, marking a point of no return where compromise is impossible. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm, you know, anytime I can survive a tyrannical rant, I feel like I get life breathed back into me.
So I'm good to go.
Ready to go?
That's where you're at.
Yeah, that's a very positive glass is half full type of, that's a very positive gulag is half full type of attitude that you're bringing to the show today.
Of course, as I mentioned, Clint is he's the host of Liberty Lockdown.
Definitely go check out that show if you haven't already.
I've been a guest on it multiple times, and I will be returning.
I was just on, but I will be back on your show in, was it Sunday night?
Sunday morning, actually.
Sunday morning, 9 a.m. Eastern.
It's going to be Styx Hexenhammer 666 versus Dave Smith on Trump's legacy.
Do not miss it.
Yes.
So we'll be having an informal debate about the legacy of Donald Trump.
Styx will be defending it, and I will be criticizing it, just mildly.
But I'm looking forward to that.
That should be a lot of fun.
So, okay.
So in Sunday, I'll be criticizing Donald Trump.
But for today, we're going to be talking about his opposition a bit.
So the last episode I did, and this is the game I'm in, you know, political commentary, sometimes things change and they make you feel real stupid when they do.
So my last podcast, I did a big segment on the speech that Biden gave right before this speech.
And I was like, man, this speech is a little troubling to me.
And now I just feel really stupid for even recording that episode because you're like, hey, no one told me he was going to follow it up with a much, much more troubling, much, much more terrifying speech, which he gave the other night.
I saw you had a tweet about this that was going viral, blowing it up.
So I reached out to you.
I was like, all right, why don't you come on?
Let's talk about this together.
So last night, Joe Biden gave a speech on domestic extremism and the threat posed by MAGA Republicans.
We're going to play this speech.
We're going to respond to a whole lot of it, but maybe let's just judging it as a whole, you watch the whole thing.
I watch the whole thing.
What would be, I don't know, before we get into going over the specifics, what's your thoughts, what you were talking about on Twitter overall of what the speech was, what it really was?
Yeah, well, I have a benign answer and a deeply concerning answer as to what I think this was about.
There's a potential chance that this was a ham-fisted attempt at Trumpism, where they said, We're going to embrace this dark, uh, dark brand in order or dark Biden or whatever they call it, um, motif, and we're going to fire up our base with that, and that's going to help us in the midterms.
I think that's the most benign explanation.
And he just doesn't have that delivery that Trump does, and ultimately it ended up in disaster.
I think the alternative answer is a much more concerning one, and this definitely puts my tinfoil hat firmly in place.
So, take it with a grain of salt.
But you have to admit, a speech like this really does seem as if it seeds the ground for potential false flags, potential Patriot Front does something crazy, and then they are able to pull off some more Patriot Act II type of thing, either prior to the midterm or after to prevent Trump from running in 24.
I think that either of those options are possible.
I'm very anxious to hear what your take is as to what you think it was.
Well, I'll say this: I think that's a good, that's a good place to start.
And I don't know that I could conclusively say it's one of the two, it's certainly one of the two.
Okay, I will say that I've been talking about for a couple weeks now on the show this very disturbing trend of labeling coming out of the administration, labeling not Donald Trump, not even Republican politicians, but Republicans as fascists, enemies, terrorists, all of this stuff, threats to our democracy, you know, all of this.
And there was an off-the-cuff comment that Biden made about, this is about a week and a half ago now, about MAGA Republicans.
This was the term he used, saying that they're fascist.
And that was kind of like a thing where you're like, well, what do you mean by MAGA Republicans?
I mean, do you mean elected representatives?
You clearly don't just mean Trump.
What do you mean the elected representatives who side with Trump?
Or do you mean the 74 million Americans who voted for Donald Trump?
Right.
And then Joe Biden's idiot press secretary was asked about this.
And I covered this here on the show.
And she goes, she doubles down on it.
So now you go, huh?
I guess that wasn't just an off-the-cuff oop.
This was kind of a basket of deplorables type statement.
We regret saying this.
Now he comes out and gives a full speech about it.
And this is after he had mentioned it a couple more times.
So now it's very clear.
This is not just an off-the-cuff thing.
This is a strategy.
This is what they're going with.
Now, that doesn't prove whether it's option one or option two that you laid out, but that is something to focus on.
That this is not just something they just laid out in this speech.
This is something that's been like planned.
This is where we're going with this.
This is what we're running on.
100%.
This speech to me was, and I tweeted something to this effect earlier.
This, it really reminded me of like a George Bush in 2002 speech about Iraq, laying the groundwork for a war, laying the groundwork for like, I'm going to now give you all for those of people who don't remember, 9-11 happened, of course, in September of 2001.
In 2003, we invaded Iraq, but all of 2002 was a steady march of propaganda of Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.
They were in 9-11.
They're involved with Al-Qaeda.
All this stuff.
And it felt like that.
It kind of reminded me of the George W. Bush, you know, famous quote at his State of the Union in 2002 when he said, let us not tolerate Crazy conspiracy theories about 9-11.
In this battle, you are either with us or you're with the terrorists.
That was kind of Joe Biden's speech.
The slight difference, a kind of disturbing one here, is that the terrorists are 74 million Americans.
The terrorists are, you know, look, we've, as libertarians have known for a very long time, we've essentially had, as they call it, a uniparty system.
There's two parties, but it's really one party.
The duopoly, as libertarians have run into the ground, this awful term that I just, for whatever reason, is cringy now at this point, even though it's not.
When I first heard it, I thought it was a really good term.
But now that Donald Trump, someone who was outside of the allowable opinion of the other party, has been, you know, has become their leader.
It seemed like Joe Biden is really making a move toward a one-party state.
And that there's something very creepy about that.
Now, is this just them?
I mean, yeah, you could certainly say that, well, he's got basically nothing else to run on.
He's in really bad shape.
So this is what they can go at.
You know, January 6th, Charlottesville, as he mentions in the speech, you know, like what else does he have to say?
But there was something, not just, there was something about the tone of this speech.
And quite frankly, and I know people are just kind of making fun of it, but the optics of it.
I mean, this isn't an accident.
Like, it's not an accident when the like to have that.
He's standing with two Marines next to him.
They intentionally put this like red backdrop behind him.
It was something out of like the bad guy in a movie.
Like they're trying to make him look dictatorial.
And I wonder what, what the hell is that about?
If not, your second, you know, option.
They like trying almost to provoke this kind of reaction, or perhaps provoke a reaction, perhaps set up a false flag or something like that.
But yeah, look, I'd be lying if I said that my conspiracy spidey senses were not also going off like, man, this really smells like it's setting up something.
They know that Donald Trump getting re-elected is not an option.
This is something they cannot have happen.
You know, once was bad enough.
He cannot come back and win again.
They know that they're looking to get smacked in the midterms in a few months.
What exactly are they trying to pull out here?
I don't know, but this smells like something.
Yeah.
No, and it's interesting too, because during the press conferences today, Corinne Jean-Pierre, as well as Biden, upon being questioned about the rhetoric that he used last night, they backpedaled and they were like, no, you know, it's not the majority of Republicans.
It's only the MAGA Republicans, as if, you know, Donald Trump wasn't filling 70,000 stadiums with people rocking MAGA hats.
Like there's a lot.
Even if you're just going to like parse the Republican Party into the MAGA versus the non-there is a lot of MAGA Republicans, a lot.
So it doesn't comfort me at all.
And that was the fascinating thing because my tweet did go so viral.
I got all of these Blue Anon type people, you know, the ones that you can scarcely believe are real human beings.
And they're just repeatedly emphasizing, oh, you think that this is half the country?
It's not even close to half.
It's a third at best.
They just kept saying that.
And I was like, as if that comforts me at all.
You know, like a third of this country are enemies of the state, terrorists, domestic extremists, fascists.
Like this is a horrifying perspective to hold on your country.
I don't like the Democrats, but I certainly wouldn't say that, you know, half of this country in reference to them are all of these negative things that Biden said last night.
It's just unbelievable.
Yeah.
And there's something, you know, people, I've seen people kind of like give me some pushback on social media and stuff like that.
And they'll be like, well, look, like this is kind of what politicians do.
And there is some truth to the fact that politicians always to some degree, you know, demonize their opponents, demonize the other side, the radical Democrats, you know, the crazy Republicans, there's a little bit something different about giving an entire speech dedicated to your opposition and how they are an existential threat.
Like this, this speech, an entire speech on this, you know, it's if Donald Trump had given an entire speech on Hillary Clinton voters and how they are an absolute threat to the, you know, the security of the United States of America, that would be something a little different than him just like throwing out insults.
This seemed like what you would say.
Like this seemed like a speech that should have been about Al-Qaeda or should have been about Saddam Hussein or something like that.
And again, as people who are completely against those speeches, but it does hit a little bit closer to home when it's like us.
We're not MAGA Republicans, but I think we'd certainly be lumped into that group by these guys.
You know what I mean?
Oh, absolutely.
That was another point I wanted to make.
And this is why I'm taking it as such a personal affront.
This wasn't about MAGA Republicans.
The way I felt, the way, you know, the entire ambiance that came with it, it was crystal clear.
It was a with us or against us style speech.
And as someone who is against the Biden administration, which I proudly am, I am absolutely categorized as the MAGA Republicans.
They're not going to differentiate just because I'm ultimately an anarcho-capitalist.
They could care less.
So, but there's one other thing that's really important to note.
You know, when Trump would give his vitriolic speeches, it was oftentimes if he was going to be really, you know, hateful, it was towards the media.
It wasn't towards 30, 50 million, 100 million people in this country.
I mean, it was just so extreme and so divisive.
And the fact that his entire presidency was predicated on the concept of I am the moderate Democrat and I will be the unifier in this moment that we need to come together.
And then he, what's it, a year and a half, maybe two years into, no, it's a year and a half.
He's now, you know, laying the groundwork for a potential, you know, hot civil war, something that as peaceful people, as libertarians, we, that's the last thing we want to see.
It's just, it's astonishing.
It was an honestly astonishing moment.
Yeah, I agree.
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In case anyone thinks we're like, you know, maybe being a little bit hyperbolic about this or whatever, let's play some of the speech and really go through like what the subtext or the subcontext here is.
So let's start the speech and we'll listen for a little bit and stop and respond.
My fellow Americans, please, if you have a seat, take it.
I speak to you tonight.
Just pause already.
I'm sorry.
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Just for one second.
Just this is my point about the optics.
Like, they chose to do this.
Like, look at this.
Pull it up.
Like, they chose to have the speech in this background.
I have never seen a president of the United States of America speak like this.
This looks like something out of V for Vendetta.
I don't understand why they would choose this unless this was the message they wanted to send.
And let me also note: I have never seen a presidential speech where he had troops stationed in the rear.
Unless it was a predicate for going to war.
And honestly, I've never seen that.
And it seems like there was a message there.
Like, we got the fucking military with us on this one.
You know, again, that's a little bit, I understand that, you know, I'm kind of speculating and digging a little bit on that, but there does seem to be something about, I mean, just look, look at what's on the screen right now.
Anyway, all right, let's keep playing.
America.
Independence Hall in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
This is where America made its declaration of independence to the world more than two centuries ago with an idea unique among nations that in America, we're all created equal.
This is where the United States Constitution was written and debated.
This is where we set in motion the most extraordinary experiment of self-government the world has ever known.
With three simple words, we the people, we the people, these two documents and the ideas they embody, equality and democracy, are the rock upon which this nation is built.
They're how we became the greatest nation on earth.
They're why for more than two centuries, America has been a beacon to the world.
But as I stand here tonight, equality and democracy are under assault.
We do ourselves no favor to pretend otherwise.
So tonight, I've come to this place where it all began to speak as plainly as I can to the nation about the threats we face, about the power we have in our own hands to meet these threats, and about the incredible future that lies in front of us if only we choose it.
We must never forget, we the people are the true heirs of the American experiment that began more than two centuries ago.
We the people have burning inside of each of us the flame of liberty that was lit here at Independence Hall.
A flame that lit our way through abolition, the Civil War, suffrage, the Great Depression, World Wars, civil rights.
That sacred flame still burns now in our time as we build an America that is more prosperous, free, and just that is the work of my presidency, a mission I believe in with my whole soul.
All right, so let's pause right there.
So, before, because this is, I mean, look, obviously, there's just a lot of fluff to open the speech up and you know, probably a lot of stuff we wouldn't disagree with.
Yeah, I like the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights and Liberty and all of that stuff.
But there was what he's laid out, just aside from the fluff, was that there is a threat that I need to speak plainly to you about, but that we have the power to stop this threat.
And so, right away, stand back and stand by Donald Trump to the proud boys, man.
Yeah, like that's right.
Like, that's that's a that's a big problematic statement.
But so, he's going, there's this threat.
And you might wonder yourself, like, well, what exactly is the threat?
I mean, even if you want to say January 6th or something like that, I mean, January 6th was a while ago at this point.
You know, it's like, it's not as if there's January 6th popping up like every few months.
Like, we are under this threat.
So, it's like, this is the type of thing you would say after 9-11 or something, you know, like, oh, there's this threat.
You know, okay.
And he just gives examples of every, you know, difficult period in American history, all of which were the government's fault, but whatever, that's fine.
But so, so it's like, so it's just very ominous and very, it's, it's very unclear what the threat is and very unclear what the power that we have, if we choose to use it, exactly is.
So, that's the kind of the opening.
Yeah.
I also wanted to add that it's, it's interesting that democracy and equality are what he views as the unique foundational principles of this nation.
Whereas I think individual rights is really what makes America unique, something that he clearly doesn't respect at all.
I also think that it's interesting the way that they have manipulated the word democracy to basically just represent a neoliberal globalist agenda.
Right.
And it no longer holds the, you know, the people having the power, the people having the say, the vote mattering.
Like they bring that stuff up, but it's all ultimately secondary to does our agenda get fulfilled?
Because if the vote goes against us, obviously democracy has failed.
So I think that's an interesting point, too.
And of course, it's just so wild that the, you know, it's as if it's supposed to be like this was 70 years ago and we don't remember it at all.
That when Donald Trump got elected, there wasn't an entire campaign from every major Democrat saying that he wasn't the legitimate president and this election wasn't legitimate.
And like, it's a all of a sudden, though, the fact that he said it is supposed to be some, you know, like crazy different thing because some, you know, because some government property was damaged on January 6th.
But okay, so let's now keep playing because this is where he starts to get into it.
But first, we must be honest with each other and with ourselves.
Too much of what's happening in our country today is not normal.
Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
I want to be very clear, very clear up front.
Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans are MAGA Republicans.
Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology.
I know because I've been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.
But there's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans.
All right.
All right.
So that's that's another point to stop at.
So, okay, this threat that we face, which is like this is already so bizarre, is Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans.
Donald Trump, the guy who you beat, who you won your job from, who has not announced that he's running again.
And as of right now, the question is whether he's going to be prosecuted or not.
His home was just raided by your FBI.
But still, this is the threat.
Now, he wants to be clear that this is not the majority of Republicans.
The mainstream Republicans are not represented at all by the Republican presidential candidate who got more votes than any Republican in history, you know, more votes with the exception of him than any presidential candidate in history, if you believe the results of the election, the official results.
That's not the mainstream.
That's just these MAGA Republicans who are so not mainstream that even though that guy, Donald Trump, who hasn't announced he's running yet, you're just assuming is this huge threat.
Like if that wasn't the mainstream of the Republicans, then why would it be a threat at all?
But then he, in the next breath, says that the Republicans are dominated by them.
So you'd wonder how they're dominated by this group that is not the mainstream of Republicans.
So in other words, it's okay.
The Republicans are okay, the ones who work with Joe Biden.
Yes.
You know, we're okay with Lindsey Graham, probably.
You know, maybe not Lindsey Graham wasn't the great example.
Liz Cheney.
She's okay.
She's really okay, but not the MAGA Republicans.
They are outside the scope of being okay.
They're a threat to all of that good stuff that we just mentioned about, you know, democracy and equality and whatever, then the health of the nation.
Pretty weird place to start.
Yeah.
And I would just like to add that, you know, if Trump had ever given a speech, because I get accused of being a Trump defender sometimes, because ultimately the media, the entire cathedral is against him.
So we're always put in this position of defending this guy that we otherwise despise.
But if Trump were to have held an address to the nation that was publicized as this was going to be such a meaningful moment and everyone has to tune in, and he had gotten up there and said what Biden just said there, that, you know, there's a minority of the Democrat Party, but it's they dominate the Democrat Party somehow.
And ultimately, they're a threat to the nation.
I think I would have had an issue with it.
I think it's fair to say that I would have been like, this is a dangerous rhetorical device to use, especially when, I mean, you're the president of the United States.
Like you, you just can't go this route.
You really can't do this.
And the fact that it was a conscious decision that they chose, we are going to label, because that's basically what they've done.
Day one of Biden's presidency, they have the domestic extremism memorandum that goes out.
Then you have the Project Veritas leak that demonstrates that anarcho-capitalists and people with Betsy Ross flags and everybody else is also a potential domestic violent extremist, according to our FBI.
I mean, where are we going with this?
It really strikes me that they are laying the groundwork to persecute these people.
And I think potentially criminally.
And that just seems impossible to imagine.
It strikes me as a very fascist maneuver, if I'm being honest.
Yeah.
Well, he said something at the beginning there about how we live in unusual times.
What were the words that he used at the very beginning?
That he goes, he said, you know, that these are like, we're not normal.
I know.
Right.
this is not normal times.
And because, and then he goes right into the MAGA Republican extremists.
And you're like, well, yeah, I mean, it's not normal times over the last two and a half years.
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
And I wouldn't even say that, like, yeah, okay, MAGA Republicans are part of what's not normal about these times.
But also, what's not normal was like, you know, the government locking people in their homes and, you know, like completely upending every social norm in our society.
And like, I don't know.
Yeah, this is, this has been not normal times over the last two and a half years, but to just blame this on the MAGA Republicans rather than seeing them as kind of like, in many ways, a response to this, the not normal times is very, also very disturbing.
Yeah.
And I, I don't think that, I really don't think that Trump would have done anything like this because it's, it is just, it's a political killer.
Like I, I, like, if he's actually intending to run in 24, which allegedly he is, I mean, you are just putting, you're galvanizing your opposition because everyone's now going to come together.
Um, you're also making people that are, you know, independents go, like, I don't want whatever that was.
I have no interest in that.
It just seemed to put the entire Democrat Party into a very authoritarian framework.
And I can't imagine that that's appealing to more than a minority in this country, like a very small minority.
I pray.
I guess we'll find out.
Maybe, maybe they're reading poll numbers that say otherwise, but it's just hard for me to imagine.
Or perhaps the other thing is that they just feel like this is their only play.
True.
It's just desperation.
You know, like, it's like, well, it's just, you know, what can you say other than, you know, it's, it's, you know, okay, well, we can't run on inflation.
We can't run on, you know, you know, teaching your seven-year-old boy that he's a girl.
We can't run on like this or that, you know, but we could run on like, oh, this other side is a threat to our democracy.
And generally speaking, when people look at January 6th, they don't like it.
They go, yeah, that wasn't good.
So maybe this is just what will play up.
Generally speaking, when people look at Charlottesville, they don't like it.
So this is what we can, you know, like maybe that's part of it.
But yeah, I mean, try to imagine Donald Trump showing up in front of this background and demonizing all of the voters of like one, you know, set of, and by the way, to be clear, I understand, because I under, I almost like want to anticipate the pushback on this.
I understand when someone says MAGA Republicans, it's not exactly clear who he's talking about, but he's certainly not making it clear, at least thus far, that he's talking about Congress or he's talking about the Senate.
It's a very vague term that means, you know, like my, you know, your, your Fox News watching uncle refers to himself as a Republican.
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Of course.
So, okay, so that is that who you're talking about, like a Republican, or you're talking about, you know, like, I don't know, Marjorie Taylor Green.
Like who, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's not clear which one he's talking about.
Is it Matt Gates or is it the guy who just never misses an episode of Ducker Carlson?
Like, right.
I don't know which.
I really don't know which.
And I think the ambiguity was intentional.
That's what really disturbs me because it's not as if Joe Biden's up there ad-libbing.
This is a written prepared speech that they announced days in advance.
Like this is a very finely crafted, the aesthetic was finally crafted.
None of this is accidental.
And that's the one thing I really want people to focus on is like, it's not, this is not a mistake.
Like, sure, sure, it could have ended up being a mistake, but this was a political calculation.
It shows the entire framing.
Everything about this was a conscious decision.
And I don't know what that means, but it's not comforting.
Yeah, exactly.
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And that is a threat to this country.
These are hard things, but I'm an American president, not a president of Red America, blue America, but of all America.
And I believe it's my duty, my duty to love with you to tell the truth, no matter how difficult, no matter how painful.
And here, in my view, is what is true.
MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution.
They do not believe in the rule of law.
They do not recognize the will of the people.
They refuse to accept the results of a free election.
And they're working right now, as I speak in state after state to give power to decide elections in America to partisans and cronies, empowering election deniers to undermine democracy itself.
MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards, backwards, to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love.
They promote authoritarian leaders and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights to the pursuit of justice.
So let's pause it here for a second.
So here's where, I mean, we're getting into there is this threat.
And here's what the threat is: that MAGA Republicans are working toward, you know, fanning the flames of election denialism.
Right.
Which, of course, as everyone knows, you know, this term denialism is a very specific connotation, which is what, as I was been arguing with some people on Twitter today, this is what every like hack piece of shit uses to use this term denialism, which is obviously invoking Holocaust denialism as like the worst thing you can do denying this awful thing that clearly happened, you know, happened.
So that's where they're using that.
I did think it was very interesting that he's talking about this threat that's being posed.
And the thing that he has to go to is these kind of these social issues.
You know, like this is what the big threat is: that they're denying your right to choose.
They're denying your right to marry who you want to marry.
Yeah, that one's out of the blue.
Didn't know that was an issue.
Yeah, that your right to contraception.
You know, like I'm not saying that there isn't like some right-wing Republican in Texas somewhere who said, yeah, we should really get back on the contraception thing.
You know what I mean?
But the idea that there is some major threat to your right to contraception, it's just like so removed from reality.
Now, yes, it is true in a very bizarre twist that Donald Trump, the absolute least believable social conservative to win the Republican, you know, like to win Republican support, did put justices on the Supreme Court who ultimately overturned Roe v. Wade.
And we'll see where, you know, exactly where that's going now is these, some of these red states have the ability to restrict abortion, or at least partially.
So, okay, I'm not saying there's no truth to that, but there's something so bizarre about Joe Biden going, and now they're denying your right to marry who you want to marry.
You know, this is worthy of this like wartime speech that you're okay.
Just factually speaking, the first president of the United States of America who on the first day on the job from campaigning to being elected supported gay marriage was Donald Trump.
That's just a fact.
Now, Joe Biden is the second.
However, Donald Trump was president for four years.
And before that, Joe Biden was vice president.
And Joe Biden was elected as vice president and sworn in and campaigned on not supporting gay marriage.
Now, I will say he did change his mind.
I think a week and a half before Barack Obama did.
Like he was the one who kind of like came out and launched.
Super progressive.
Right.
But it's just so bizarre to think that, especially when you're, I can understand if you're like younger, you're like 20 or something like that.
Maybe all of this seems like ancient history, but it's very bizarre to me to see him invoke this now against Donald Trump when him and Barack Obama came in to their presidency, like passionately arguing that marriage is between a man and a woman.
Dude, I'm old enough to remember, I think it was the 08 campaign trail.
It was still HD, HD news.
And you got Joe Biden sitting there going, they want to redefine what marriage is.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
What's up with this, Jack?
You know, like he's doing his whole Biden thing.
And this is when his brain was still somewhat functioning.
So he was cogent.
He understood what he was saying.
I mean, it's crazy.
But the other thing I wanted to point out was, you know, they're describing this risk, this MAGA Republican risk.
And what does it amount to?
Okay, so they're going from pro-choice to pro-life.
That's like, that's the one that I actually understand because from a hyper-progressive standpoint, choice is everything.
And that's like, that's their crucible.
That's what they have to defend.
So I get that.
But then the other things that they're bringing up are like voter ID laws, you know, and that is extrapolated somehow into both racism as well as fascism.
And on the inverse of this, you have Joe Biden's presidency, which is funding a proxy war with the nuclear power.
You also have them using the FBI to go after their political opponents in the Donald Trump Mar-a-Lago raid.
I had, oh, they're also dictating via the CDC what needs to be censored on social media.
I mean, the list is significantly longer.
If you were going to make the argument as to which party in this country is ultimately propagating fascism, it's crystal clear that it's the Democrats.
So it's just gaslighting to the extreme.
Yeah, it's a very, very bizarre.
And just the thing that's so bizarre to me is that, and don't get me wrong, I think there has, look, as the kind of woke progressives have gotten more and more insane, there has been a big pushback to that.
And it's been the best thing to happen to social conservatism in a sense in, you know, at least a decade.
Because yes, as they're pushing, you know, like. you know, gender fluid, like fluidity theory on your six-year-old, a lot of people are going like, whoa, we got to have some standards here, you know, but Donald Trump.
Wait until middle school, please.
Yeah, like, right.
But Donald Trump winning the presidency in 2016, like the rise of MAGA was ultimately, I mean, it seemed to me like in many ways, Republicans almost abandoning a lot of their kind of social conservatism for economic populism, for this other thing.
Like, yes, we will take the billionaire playboy, you know, New York City guy, who clearly no one could possibly believe on any level is a guy who's like fucking porn stars while his wife is pregnant.
Like there's no, no one believes.
He's allegedly paying for abortions for these porn stars, too.
Right.
No one seriously believes that this guy is like, you know, there was the thing in 2016 where some pastor asked him what his favorite passage in the Bible was.
And he goes, well, they're all terrific.
The ultimate, I didn't read it.
Yeah.
He said, I think he said at one point that the art of the deal, he goes, the art of the deal is the best book besides the Bible, but after the Bible, it's the second best.
Like that was, you know, it was like, no one like seriously.
1A, 1B.
Okay.
Yeah.
No one, no one seriously believed this guy was like a devout Christian or anything like that.
But so it was like, no, but he was saying, hey, I'm going to bring your jobs back and I'm going to do that.
Like, it was just like this, you know, like, okay, fine.
We can't win on that battle, but at least we could win on this.
And so it's, it's, it's interesting that this is what like, who are you talking about?
Are you talking about Rick Santorum or are you talking about Donald Trump?
Like this just doesn't, it's very interesting that this is where he goes with the tangible like examples of what the threat is.
I totally agree.
And this is why I believe that ultimately the neoliberal agenda and what they define as democracy ultimately amounts to a globalist mindset because Donald Trump was clearly a nationalist.
Like even when he went to Davos and he spoke at the World Economic Forum, he got up there, you know, contrary to what they expected him to say, he got up there and said, we will never be globalists.
We will never go this path.
It was probably the best speech I've ever heard him give because he did it in front of all the people that ultimately are now, in my opinion, the reason that he's not the president anymore, because he got up there and he said, all of your globalist plans, we ain't going along with it.
And that was the end of his reign and ultimately why he's been persecuted to the end of the earth.
Granted, it makes me sound like a conspiracy theorist, but ultimately I believe I'm correct.
I really believe that that was what they despite.
That's the one thing they can't abide.
It's his hesitancy to start wars and his unwillingness to go along with globalism.
Those are the two things that they really value.
And that to them is actually democracy.
And even when he went along with globalism, he never told people that he actually believed it.
You know, like he never, he, he was always kind of like, at least rhetorically going, you know, I remember there was this one interview he had with Steve Hilton at Fox News.
And he went, it was, it was, I think, I could be wrong about this, but I think it was the first time a president has used the term military industrial complex since Eisenhower.
I don't think anyone, there's a long time, you know, and I might be wrong.
There's someone correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I believe since Eisenhower's farewell address to Donald Trump, so whatever the Eisenhower yeah, right.
Eisenhower was the president.
I think he left in 1960, and this was, you know, or 59 or whatever.
And this was, yeah, so that's you know, a long time.
Um, and uh, you know, he was like, Well, why haven't you ended all these wars, you know, that you said you want to end?
Why are we still in Syria?
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Why are we still in these wars?
And he was like, You know, I want to, but there really are all these people who just want war.
They just want war.
It's the military-industrial complex, and they push it for that.
They want these big, these big, beautiful weapons companies.
They all want war.
And it was so bizarre because, on one hand, you're like, But so aren't you the commander in chief?
Like, don't you get to decide?
Like, did they get?
But it was still such a crime against the establishment to even mention that, even rhetorically.
To even just say, Yeah, of course, we shouldn't be fighting these wars, but you know, everyone's getting fucking rich off of them.
So, they all want me to fight the war.
Like, it's bizarre on every level.
It's a it's a pox on both your houses.
Like, it's a condemnation of Trump and also a condemnation of like the other.
Anyway, um, all right, let's keep playing from the speech because this keeps getting interesting.
To the rule of law, to the very soul of this country, they look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th, brutally attacking law enforcement, not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger at the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots.
And they see their MAGA failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections.
They tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people.
This time, they're determined to succeed in thwarting the will of the people.
That's why respected conservatives like Federal Circuit Court Judge Michael Ludig has called Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans, quote, a clear and present danger to our democracy.
But while the threat to American democracy is real, I want to say as clearly as we can: we are not powerless in the face of these threats.
We are not bystanders in this ongoing attack on democracy.
There are far more Americans, far more Americans from every background of belief who reject the extreme MAGA ideology than those that accept it.
And, folks, can we pause for a sec?
Sure.
I just wanted to point out the very descripted, descriptive, artful language that he uses: a dagger to the throat of democracy.
I mean, that it's like already bringing up violent connotations when ultimately, just two days ago, he also said that there were police, multiple police, multiple cops that were killed on January 6th.
Luckily, that was my last, that was my last episode.
So, at least we've been downgraded to assaulted police from killed several police.
So, that checkers got to him.
Yes, that's good.
At least it's getting January 6th is getting better and better as the days go on.
Like, it's okay.
There was now they're just assaulted, right?
And a dagger to the throat of democracy.
So, you know, in many ways, that would really justify anything.
I mean, if someone's got a dagger to your throat, you're really justified in doing whatever you can.
And then he says that there's not only did they fight the peaceful transfer of power and the results of the 2020 election, but they're geared up to do it again in 2022 and 2024.
So he's setting the stage for, look, by all accounts, the Democrats are poised to get destroyed in the midterm elections.
And it's interesting to see him going, well, they're poised to fight the results of these elections, which is a, you know, it's just very bizarre that that would be what he's setting up.
Oh, okay.
So now I guess, you know, there's this kind of pretext for like, oh, okay, well, whatever happens in 2022 and 2024, just know that these guys who don't even respect the rule of democracy like we always do, you know, that's what you have to watch out for.
So there's something very ominous.
Well, it makes me very nervous that they intend to, you know, reinforce the election once again.
You know, it's like that it certainly gives a pretense to, hey, this outcome is going to go against what the Republicans expect to be.
And when that occurs and when they protest, I want you to realize that I told you these people are threats.
Now it's time for us to round them up or, you know, something like that.
It's, I don't know.
We're going to find out real soon.
It's only two months away now.
Yeah, no, that's right.
All right, let's keep playing.
It's within our power.
It's in our hands, yours and mine, to stop the assault on American democracy.
I believe America is at an inflection point.
One of those moments that determine the shape of everything that's to come after.
And now America must choose to move forward or to move backwards, to build the future or obsess about the past, to be a nation of hope and unity and optimism, or a nation of fear, division, and of darkness.
MAGA Republicans have made their choice.
They embrace anger.
They thrive on chaos.
They live not in the light of truth, but in the shadow of lies.
But together, together, we can choose a different path.
We can choose a better path forward to the future.
A future of possibility, a future to build and dream and hope.
And we're on that path moving ahead.
I know this nation.
I know you, the American people.
I know your courage.
I know your hearts.
And I know our history.
This is a nation that honors our Constitution.
We do not reject it.
This is a nation that believes in the rule of law.
We do not repudiate it.
This is a nation that respects free and fair elections.
We honor the will of the people.
We do not deny it.
And this is a nation that rejects violence as a political tool.
We do not encourage violence.
We are still an America that believes in honesty and decency and respect for others, patriotism, liberty, justice for all, hope, possibilities.
We are still at our core a democracy.
And yet, history tells us the blind loyalty to a single leader and a willingness to engage in political violence is fatal to democracy.
For a long time, we've told ourselves that American democracy is guaranteed, but it's not.
We have to defend it, protect it, stand up for it, each and every one of us.
That's why tonight I'm asking our nation to come together, unite behind the single purpose of defending our democracy, regardless of your ideology.
We're all called by duty and conscience to confront extremists who put their own pursuit of power above all else.
Democrats, independents, mainstream Republicans.
We must be stronger, more determined, and more committed to saving American democracy than MAGA Republicans are just to destroy American democracy.
All right, so let's pause right there.
Because here's what I think is interesting about this: that portion.
So there's something that's revealed there.
And obviously, there was a lot of fluff in the middle of that: you know, we're a democracy, this is our shining light, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
But he kind of revealed what we were questioning before when we go, well, who are you talking about when you say MAGA Republicans?
Because at a certain point, he starts off that clip that we just played by talking about how we're the majority, you know, and we can do something about this.
We're the majority.
But he's not saying we're the majority of what?
Congress, you know, half of Congress, half of the Senate.
He's not saying we're the majority of Donald.
Obviously, the country is the majority of like the few hundred elected representatives, right?
What's he talking about?
He's talking about the voters.
That's the only thing that makes sense there.
And when he goes, I'm calling on everyone, Democrats, Independents, and mainstream Republicans.
He's not talking about politicians.
He's talking about the people.
And so that is like, as he's dancing around the issue, he just kind of made it clear there.
Between all of this fluff, he just made it clear there that who he's talking about is the Trump supporters.
Bingo.
Yep.
Now, it is true that they are a minority.
Look, the people, only about half of Americans vote in the presidential elections.
Oh, Biden's supporters are a very small minority, too.
I might add.
Right.
Yes.
So either side is a minority.
But what the fuck does that mean?
Oh, because they're a minority.
You can do what exactly to them.
Oh, I guess we can do whatever we want to.
But just to be clear, he is talking about 70 plus million Americans.
And Donald Trump, no matter what anyone wants to tell you, was not elected by, you know, Richard Spencer, or he wasn't elected by, you know, the people who stormed the Capitol building on January 6th.
He was elected by boomer cons.
He was elected by my grandfather.
Yes, yes.
Your Fox News watching dad.
That's who that's who Donald Trump was elected by.
And that's who Joe Biden is targeting with this speech, declaring them the enemy of everything good and democracy and equality and what needs to be taken care of.
This is a very creepy thing to see the president of the United States behind this backdrop like announcing.
I don't know how else you could take it.
I don't either.
And just to add more evidence to your case there, Corrine Jean-Pierre, who once again is just a talking head, I don't think she has any real thoughts beyond similar to Biden.
She gets up there just two days ago as well, and she says, If you're ultimately, if you are not in the majority, you're an extremist.
That's what she said.
I swear to God, we can play the clip if you want, but she said that if you are not, if you're a minority in this country, you're an extremist.
That is so wild, especially coming from a black lesbian woman, which is her whole thing.
Her whole thing is that I'm the first ever black woman lesbian press secretary.
And you're like, But at the same time, if you're not in the majority, you're an extremist.
It's interesting.
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It's interesting how that works.
But, but I just want to reconnect the dots there.
The domestic violent extremists, the DVEs or whatever they call them on that FBI watch list thing that got leaked by Project Veritas, that's that's where the extremism ties in.
You know, they are trying to actually use the federal police force to go after people that do not go along with the Biden administration or the neoliberal progressive agenda, whatever you want to call it, which includes basically everyone listening to the show right now.
That's astonishing.
It really is.
Yeah, that's something.
It's something to pay attention to when your government tells you that you're their enemy.
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All right, let's get back into the show.
Okay, let's keep playing.
Anyone or anything tear us apart today?
There are dangers around us.
We cannot allow to prevail.
We hear, you've heard it.
More and more talk about violence as an acceptable political tool in this country.
It's not.
It can never be an acceptable tool.
So I want to say this plain and simple: there is no place for political violence in America, period.
None ever.
We saw law enforcement brutally attacked on January the 6th.
We've seen election officials, poll workers, many of them volunteers of both parties subject to intimidation and death threats.
And can you believe it?
FBI agents just doing their job as directed, facing threats to their own lives from their own fellow citizens.
On top of that.
All right, let's pause it real quick.
Again, like, I just want to be very clear on this.
So we're like, so there's because I think the more you play this, the more it's some of the excuses fall away.
Like, so, I mean, first off, obviously, the points you can make is there's no place for political violence, you know, in the country.
Like, okay, I mean, you know, your election reached reach for comment.
Yeah, your election year was 2020.
Like 2020.
Are you not considering any of that political violence?
Okay, fine, but all of that.
Okay.
But like, look, because I saw people like online giving me pushback and you pushback saying, well, we're talking about, you know, people who are denying voting rights and people who are doing this.
This is MAGA Republicans means Congress.
That means Matt Gates.
It means Marjorie Taylor Greene.
He just said right there, the FBI, right?
We're supposed to cast as these victims.
Who are they the victims from?
He said it, his words, their own fellow citizens.
That's who he's talking about.
And there's making he made it like perfectly clear, abundantly clear in that statement there.
We're talking about the citizenry.
That's who Joe Biden is going after.
He's going after American citizens.
Now, he's not going after Klansmen.
You know, he's not going after some group of 12 people in fucking rural, you know, Alabama or whatever.
He's going after 50% of the voting population.
I mean, according to like the latest polls, when it's him to him versus Donald Trump, I think there's like a five-point spread.
You know what I mean?
I think he's up in the latest one I saw, but you know, Donald Trump always does a little bit better than he polls.
That's what we know in history.
I saw one today.
I saw one today said that Trump was actually five points up.
So I wonder if the poll shifted that quickly.
I don't know.
Well, I don't know, but I'm just making the point that even the one I saw where he was five points behind, it's like, yeah, Donald Trump, if you look at the polls with him and Hillary Clinton and the polls with him and Joe Biden, he does a lot better than he polls.
So that's a dead heat.
You know what I mean?
Like either way.
And it's like, so that's who you're talking about.
You're talking about the citizens, their fellow citizens.
And what does he mean by this is, by the way, the most common bullshit fucking tactic that everyone uses.
The fucking jerk off I was arguing with on Twitter today uses this, right?
Everyone, they go, if you're, you know, fucking, if I'm in a Twitter argument with someone and he's just fucking getting like ratioed left and right and he can't win the argument, what does he say?
Well, look at how horrible all your followers are.
They're saying all these mean things to me.
And what did even Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden say about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren about Bernie Sanders?
Look at how horrible all you people on Twitter are.
You know, never mind how fucked up your people on Twitter are.
That's never like even considered, but that's it.
So the FBI, all these people from their fellow citizens are making violent threats.
Now, obviously, if someone is actually making violent threats against the FBI, first off, that's pretty stupid because that's not a smart idea.
They got a lot more guns than you have.
You know, like, okay, but we're also lumping in everyone like our camp who goes, you guys are a criminal organization.
You're all a bunch of criminals who should, you know, like blah, blah, blah.
That's also, oh, look at all these people who are just jumping on the FBI agents, just following their orders.
Well, you know, so that's what we're talking about.
That's who this speech is targeted at.
It's not targeted at, he's barely even saying Trump.
He said his name a few times.
That's not who this speech is about.
It's not a speech about how Donald Trump represents all these awful things.
This is a speech.
There's a reason why they're using the term MAGA Republicans and not Trump.
They're talking about people.
And this is something, as you mentioned earlier, to all the libertarians out there, myself included in this, who go, I'm not MAGA Trump.
I'm having a debate on Clint's show in a couple of days about how much I hate Donald Trump and think he was a terrible president.
But he goes, just so you know, they're talking about you too.
Absolutely.
That's that's something to keep in mind.
And I also love the, you know, as if this anger, this animus that's that's kind of percolating recently against the FBI is out of the blue.
Or could it be perhaps that you use the FBI to raid the former president's personal residence over documents that you had the ability to go and inspect at any time over the past year and a half?
I mean, so that's one aspect of it too.
His current vice president paid bail.
She fundraised bail for violent political protesters from two years ago, one of which went out and I believe committed murder in the past month.
I'll say allegedly because I don't know, but I'm just saying, none of this is true.
It's so hypocritical.
It's just, it's just purely a political bludgeon.
They are just trying to bludgeon their political opponents and truth be damned.
Yeah.
I mean, try to imagine, right?
If you could for second, imagine Donald Trump actually had control of his FBI and they weren't like trying to like work to you know unseat him.
And he just had them raid Obama's house because he had some documents he wasn't supposed to have for that.
You know what I mean?
Like imagine like the fucking like outrage that that would have gotten from people.
I think you would have seen some real political violence at that time.
Yes.
Yeah.
A lot more than what we've seen for sure.
And so it's just like, yeah, it's very like, it's ridiculous.
But yeah, that's exactly right.
And there's, it's funny.
Jeff Dice, who's the president of the Mises Institute, brilliant guy, if you're not familiar, he's been on the show many times.
He always talks about the imposed versus the imposed upon and how the people imposing always cast themselves as the imposed upon.
And there is just no better example of this than, oh my God, the poor FBI agents who are subject to abuse from American citizens.
Yeah, those FBI agents, it's just such a shame that they're always just being imposed upon by what people on Twitter or something like that.
Oh, it's so wrong that they have to put up with this.
Yeah, the FBI, pure as the driven snow.
Yeah, I mean, that's that's what concerns me about this, though, just from the libertarian vantage point, is like I have made, you know, my past couple months of my Twitter and podcast career on just bashing the FBI relentlessly,
because I'm trying to capitalize on this moment where there's finally, you know, it's not bipartisan support, but at least there is a partisan supporter, the Republicans, that have at least opened their ears and opened their minds to the idea that perhaps the FBI is irretrievable.
You know, it's just so corrupted that it can't possibly be reformed.
And that would be ultimately a tremendous benefit to any political dissident in this country.
It would be to see the FBI abolished.
So it makes me very nervous, man.
Like, I'm not even kidding.
Like, it makes me really nervous that they are describing the FBI, even though their history is one of just immense, unimaginable corruption from death threats and pleading with Martin Luther King to commit suicide and all these other civil rights activists.
And then you go back to the origin story, it's just 100 years of hell.
Like they're just they started spying on anti-war activists during World War One.
That's the origin story of the FBI, you know, and then right, like trying to send recordings of Martin Luther King, like fucking other chicks to his wife and getting him to kill himself.
Yes, the whole way, the whole history of the FBI.
And they were arguably involved in his assassination, I might add.
Yeah.
You know, they did lose a civil case in the 1990s on that case.
So, you know, they got some real dark history.
Yes.
No, no question.
No question about that.
But now here we are as crazy anti-government extremists.
So let's, all right, let's play a little bit more of Joe Biden.
On top of that, there are public figures today, yesterday, and the day before predicting and all but calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets.
This is inflammatory, dangerous, it's against the rule of law.
And we, the people, must say this is not who we are.
All right.
So let's pause it right there.
That was a okay.
So when he says there are all of these public, so he goes, on top of just the regular citizens, there are all of these public people who are calling for mass violence and riots in the streets.
Please point me, please show me who the public person is who's calling for mass violence and riots in the streets.
I think what he's referring to is people saying that if the FBI is to move forward charging Donald Trump, there will be riots in the streets.
That's a very different thing than calling for riots in the streets.
By the way, I think it was Lindsey Graham who said that there won't be.
There won't be riots in the streets over Donald Trump being prosecuted.
That's just not.
Look, if 2020 already showed you how much right-wing America will put up with.
And so, like, no, I don't believe that there will be riots in the streets over that.
But that is a perfect, like, that's just a classic example of like conflation.
I remember Jordan Peterson once.
There's a famous clip of him arguing with like some insane social justice warriors, some insane like trans activists or something like that, or screaming at him.
And he goes, he said something like, he goes, look, you are poking at something right now, and you have no idea what you're poking at.
The right-wing reaction to you guys is going to be something darker than you can possibly imagine.
And they go, oh, so you're threatening us with violence.
And that was their response.
And he goes, no, I'm not threatening you.
He goes, I'm telling you, I've studied the rise of right-wing authoritarianism and you do not want to go down this path.
You do not.
Like, you want to call everyone a white supremacist?
Wait till you see one.
Right.
Wait till you actually see one.
And so that's a lot of what he's talking about here, where he goes, oh, there's all these public people, you know, calling for political violence.
Who in this in today's political environment could even do that?
Who could even do that?
You'd be instantly fucking banned off everything.
None of us are calling for fucking political violence.
By the way, I will tell you, me and you are specifically advocating against political violence.
Dear God, that's the last thing we want to say.
Literally pleading with the Biden administration to stop with this rhetoric because I am so concerned about us ultimately ending in violence.
That's like the last thing I want to see.
And then he has the nerve to say, this is inflammatory.
This is inflammatory.
Dude, you're calling half of your voter base terrorists, but you're concerned.
You're the sitting president of the United States of America saying that the 75 million people who voted against you represent a threat to our democracy.
And yet you, and then you're going to say, but this is inflammatory.
You're standing in front of these ominous red backdrop lights with two Marines behind you and you're talking about inflammatory.
This is so, look, this does seem to me to get back to, to harken back to your original point on this.
This does seem like, oh, I think this is intentionally inflammatory.
I do too.
I think that he is intentionally trying to stoke up something.
I think, and we don't have to play anymore of the speech.
This was kind of like the, you know, the crux of it.
He goes on with a bunch of fluffiness and nothingness.
It seems to me that the Democrats have basically nothing they can run on, with the exception of Roe v. Wade.
That is the real thing they can run on.
You know, that's the big winner.
But it's not enough.
No.
It's not enough.
It's like the problem is that there's only a slim majority of people who are really against it.
And then once you get into the weeds, most people are like really, you know, like even the people who go like if they'll poll and be like, well, there's a vast majority of people who are pro-choice.
And then they go like, okay, but how about like a five-week ban?
How about an eight-week ban?
How about a 12-week ban?
Once you get to like 12-week, it's like, yeah, yeah.
So pretty much everyone.
And so there's really just not enough.
And then now you're arguing like the heartbeat laws and stuff like that in Alabama where like seven weeks.
Now you're at a seven weeks and 12 weeks.
You're actually in this really small little range.
It's not that, you know, big of a supermajority.
Inflation, the COVID policies, the public school propaganda, the fucking billions going to Ukraine, all these things, they're wildly unpopular.
They have almost nothing they can run on.
You know, as I mentioned before, the one thing the Democrats have that really helps them is Charlottesville.
It's January 6th.
It's the Oklahoma City bombings.
It's things like that are what rallies support around the Democrats.
People look at that and they go, eh, we don't really want to be a part of that.
Yeah.
And it does seem like that's what they're, they're the ones being inflammatory.
This is what they're trying to provoke.
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And I will tell you, you know, for all his talk about how law enforcement was brutally assaulted on January 6th, I've seen a few videos of some law enforcement who were in the middle of that like stampede, who were like, ah, get the fuck out of here.
I like shit.
Also seen a lot of videos of law enforcement who are moving out of the way, who are directing people in there.
You know, some people who maybe have not been technically deemed law enforcement, but sure as fuck look like law enforcement, who were advocating people go in and storm the Capitol building, you know, who don't end up getting charged.
You know, some ray ups.
They may work for the FBI.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Just throwing things out there.
No, and a couple other points to make.
You know, he was, he was talking about how the MAGA Republicans are angry.
I have never seen a president give a more angry speech.
That the full whole opening salvo of 15 minutes, it's just, it's just exuding anger and irritation at all of these people in this country.
It's incredible.
And then also, I just wanted to point out that this isn't the first time he has been extraordinarily divisive.
If you remember, as I'm sure you do, for months, it was the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
That was the language that they used.
Could you be any more divisive to blame an entire pandemic on people that won't take a forced medical treatment?
You had tens of millions of people in this country, probably 50 million, I don't know, that refused and ultimately were labeled as death transferring mechanisms or whatever.
It's like it really alienates people.
And then to take it to the next level, which is once again, many of these people, many of the people that refuse to get the vaccine, I'm sure were also, you know, Trump supporters.
It's just, it's just really, I don't know how we recover from this.
I really don't.
I don't know how like, and this is why ultimately you and I both advocate for a peaceful divorce.
It's like, it just seems to me, honestly, that there is no coming back from this.
It's, you know, it's a crossing the Rubicon.
It's, it's just like, I don't know, I don't know how you recover.
I don't know how you ever have any meeting of the minds where people are like, okay, you're no longer my enemy.
We can have a in-depth conversation.
We can really hash these things out.
We can come to some sort of compromise.
It's like, there is no compromise.
You are with either the Democrats and the pussy ass Republicans or you're my enemy.
That's basically what it is.
No, I know what you mean.
And especially for a guy who won the presidency or was installed as the president.
What the most folks for saying, I'm going to be a uniter.
I'm going to like, let's turn down the temperature on this, which I think is something we'd all like to see.
Even people who want to see a peaceful, you know, national divorce would go like, hey, okay, but let's turn it down the temperature.
Let's like talk like rational adults.
Okay.
You see things this way.
I see things this way.
Let's figure this out peacefully.
It does seem like there is something where you're like, you're crossing a line here.
You know, that's, it's, it's like, as, as almost everyone who's been in a relationship that failed would know.
Sometimes there are lines that are crossed that you're like, hey, you're, you're crossing a line here that probably will never be able to come back from.
And that does seem that that really does seem to be what this is.
And at your point, but I just slept with my best friend.
I'm, I'm not ever getting back together.
Yeah.
And as you, and as you point out, though, the stuff with like the, you know, demonizing of the unvaccinated and and look, I'll, I'll, I'm sure I'll mention this in my debate that I have coming up with sticks on your show in a couple days now.
But like, you know, say, say what you will about the Roe v. Wade thing, even someone who really disagrees with Roe v. Wade being overturned.
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Donald Trump Supreme Court is the reason why that OSHA mandate didn't go forward.
Big deal.
That's the reason.
If it wasn't for him, it was going to happen.
Completely, blatantly unconstitutional.
The president just announced that under the guise of workplace safety, fucking companies with 100 or more employees, just an arbitrary number that he chose out of thin air, those companies had to fucking mandate that their employees had the vaccine or fire their fucking employees, or they could get a test every week or whatever.
But like that would have been the law of the land, except that this Supreme Court.
And so it's like, yeah, maybe a lot of people support Donald Trump.
And even like those guys would support him, even if the, you know, officials or the important people are telling them he lost the election just because they wanted to not be ruined because they didn't take a vaccine that you lied through your teeth about to sell.
Yeah.
And let's be honest too, there isn't a chance in hell, if you don't have the media apparatus running 24-7 in your defense that the Democrats would have any chance in these midterms or in 2024.
We are in one of the most tumultuous economic times I can remember, like record high inflation for our lifetimes.
And also terrible job uncertainty.
So many people that have been put out of work, employers that can't find employees.
It's the weirdest fucking economy I've ever witnessed in my life.
This would be a death knell to any political party, usually.
So if it's not, my eyebrows are going to launch off my head with skepticism.
But we'll find out.
I mean, this, I think that's what this speech was about.
It was laying the groundwork for their own mechanisms to clamp down however they see fit.
And it makes me real nervous, man.
Listen, I'll tell you, it's like I have seen.
So in my life, you know, and me and you are about the same age or substantially older, but I'm close to the same, the same age.
Yes, you're in your 40s.
I'm in my 30s, but we're like, you know, whatever.
That's not important.
That's neither here nor there.
But so I remember very, very vividly Bill Clinton, you know, having huge midterm election losses.
So Bill Clinton won in 92.
The Republicans came in and swept everything a couple years later.
I remember George W. Bush, he, because of 9-11, didn't have the huge midterm losses, you know, right away.
And he actually did okay and kept them, but then in 2006, lost the House and the Senate, or at least lost the House.
I think he already didn't have the Senate and then lost the House.
Barack Obama in 2010 lost the House and the Senate.
This Donald Trump also had some midterm losses, not as steep, but had some midterm losses in 2018.
To see ahead of a midterm where it looks like the president's going to lose, to come out and give this speech.
None of them ever, none of them ever came out and said, no, listen, here's what's going on.
It's not just that my policies have been rejected and I'm about to lose these midterm elections.
It's that there is this underlying evil, which is, by the way, the dominant strand.
When you say dominant, like the entire fucking other party, you know, call it whatever you want to.
It's the whole other party.
You know, if there's 74 million people who voted for Donald Trump, Donald Trump represents 73.999 million and Liz Cheney represents the rest.
You know what I mean?
Like it's not as if there's some split here.
For him to come out and say, no, no, no, my opposition party is evil and illegitimate and against democracy.
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This is something different.
And it's sure as fuck something we should be paying attention to.
Well, and it was targeted towards the voters.
That's what makes this different is because Trump, I mean, in defense of the people that suffer with TDS, Trump also kind of set precedent by questioning the outcome of the election before it had occurred.
So he laid the groundwork for he opened the door for this type of political maneuvering.
I think that his was more justified, to be honest.
But regardless, this takes it up one more notch on the heat scale where it's like, all right, now we're talking, we're not talking about the media.
We're not talking about the political establishment.
We're not talking about the FBI.
We're talking about the everyday average voter.
That is, that's just something I haven't ever seen before.
So may God be with us.
Yeah, this is something different.
Buckle up.
Let's see where it goes.
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