Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein dissect Seattle's CHAZ as a failed left-wing secession attempt, arguing the state enables it while demonizing right-wing dissent to distract from inflation and bailouts. They contend the movement's impossible demands alienate reasonable people, whereas focusing on specific policies like ending the war on drugs would address real grievances. Smith further critiques the Federal Reserve's wealth plunder and corporate welfare during COVID, asserting that framing police presence solely as racism divides Americans along racial lines instead of uniting them against class-based economic exploitation by the ruling elite. [Automatically generated summary]
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Roll Back The State00:02:48
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Here's your host, Dave Smith.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am, of course, the most consistent motherfucker you know, Dave Smith.
And I'm joined, as always, by the great, the wonderful, the legendary, the fire, the king of the caulks, Robbie Bernstein.
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I'm so dumb with this shit.
I was going to go back to my apartment, but apparently I don't have an apartment anymore, so I got to figure something out.
You don't have an apartment anymore?
Did the looters get it?
It's gone.
It's just, it's no longer in New York City.
It hit the road.
It decided it had enough of the situation as well.
And my roommate's like, you know what?
I don't want you coming back.
And I was like, fair enough.
And so that's the end of that place.
He just said, I don't want you.
You've lived with him forever.
Yeah, but he's on the lease.
He's got the place rent controlled.
And he realized, man, I'm an angry old man and I want the place to myself.
So, you know, I'm going to have to figure out something new.
All right.
Well, who can blame him?
Hopefully he doesn't make the small rent payments and gets evicted.
Well, I don't care if he gets evicted now.
It's not my problem.
Oh, yeah, no, I'm just rooting for that.
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Yeah, as I recorded my first one today.
So, a lot of fun stuff going on.
I wanted to open up by talking a little bit about Chaz.
Chaz, which is the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in downtown Seattle, which has seceded from the United States of America, evidently.
Chaz And Borders00:11:32
And it has, they've taken over like a seven-block radius and given it the name of a privileged gay white dude on spring break, evidently.
Chaz.
I mean, I don't even know.
Sometimes they just make the comedy too easy that I feel bad, even making the jokes.
But Chaz is a real bitch.
And Chaz is looking pretty strange.
It is.
By the way, apparently, it doesn't take much to claim territory in the United States.
You just have to be real feminine about like, we're just, you know, you got to be like a college kid or looking like a heroin guy.
Just like, yeah, we're just out here chilling.
And then like, well, we can't fight them.
They're just chilling.
They're just trying to bang their bongos and, you know, not shower and listen to music.
I don't know what they're doing out there.
Well, it is.
I'll tell you this.
And this is true.
I've, you know, I've been struggling with this to some degree through all of these, The riots and protests and all the shit for the last few weeks is that it's hard for me to not just have the initial gut reactionary position to all of this, which is to some degree low-hanging fruit and doesn't necessarily get to like the bigger picture, which is my specialty, and the heart of the issue and what's really going on here.
But it's so hard to ignore.
It's like so, it's tempting, delicious, low-hanging fruit.
But the fact that the right-wing protests of any that you can name are always demonized so much.
And then you have a left-wing protest actually seize control of a portion of downtown Seattle and get glowing articles in the New York Times written about them, having CNN correspondents cover it, going, you know, it's mostly peaceful as they've seized property that doesn't belong to them, vandalized it, assaults are happening, men, you know, armed men marching back and forth.
This is deemed as peaceful, yet the Tea Party was like racist and awful.
And those marches in Michigan last month were going to kill grandma and all this shit.
It is, it's damn near impossible to not call out the astounding hypocrisy of how they treat the left versus the right in this country.
I think it's great because we need the left to secede first.
That's what we need.
We need California to go, hey, listen, we don't like everyone else.
So we're just going to be California.
Great.
Enjoy your debt.
Enjoy.
See how that works out for you.
You see, they won't let us do it because they know that they need our resources.
I don't need them.
Let them take their states.
And then when they take their states, we get to take our states.
So this is great because it's like you said, because we're more of a threat when we go, all right, we're going to go our own way.
Like even these people, they take away government.
You know what they should do?
This is what I would do if I was Donald Trump and go, cool.
You guys are no longer U.S. citizens.
You can enjoy the area.
We're going to put up the TSA coming in or out.
Give that thing two weeks.
They'll be begging for their citizenship.
It'll be a, yeah, absolutely.
It'll be a nightmare, but that's not what's happening.
And in fact, what's happening is that the state has sent in sanitation to help clean the place up.
They've responded to a few distress calls.
So they're essentially subsidizing this new young country, which, you know, I would, you know, understand it's a developing nation.
They need a little bit of help from their neighbors.
But look, there's obviously a lot of like comedic aspects to this whole thing.
I mean, look, it is, it's a little like microcosm, a little example of what will actually occur if these left-winger types get their way.
And the funny thing about it is that, I mean, it's really almost beyond parody that what they did, right?
Think about who's doing this.
I mean, it's a group of kind of like Black Lives Matter types and Antifa types and real far-left radicals.
And how they form their new country is they seized a bunch of land that wasn't theirs.
And their first move was to put up a fucking fence and to establish borders with armed men patrolling the borders.
Because obviously, you know, it's like there's something about it that's like such a mind fuck.
God, 2020 is just fucking me up inside.
But so this is right.
I mean, this is how you create a nation.
You steal a bunch of land and then you create borders, which is kind of the way you create a nation.
I mean, like, whether or not any of us like it, that does, you know, there is something to what Trump said, where if you don't have borders, you don't have a country, right?
Like, kind of, I mean, at least in the traditional definition of what a country is, it's usually, well, here it is on the map.
And what are these things around it?
Those are the borders.
That's how you know that it's a country.
If there's no borders, where does this country begin and the other one end?
Now, you know, it's in the same way that like, this is my hand means that all this other space has to be not my hand.
Otherwise, I don't really have an area that you can call your hand.
And look, libertarian and libertarian, you know, ideal society, maybe it is all private property-based and nations form in that manner.
But in the real world, traditionally, that hasn't been how it happened.
But it's interesting to see these left-wingers realize that they got to do that too.
And oh, by the way, these lefties who are so against hierarchy, like two days in, and they have a self-declared warlord who I believe is a SoundCloud rapper, who's now declared himself the leader.
It seems kind of hierarchical.
But, you know, I don't know.
Is he dropping good beats?
Well, I don't know if he's a beat maker, Rob.
I believe he just spits over the beats.
So yeah, no, they're going to need to get a decent producer in there to work with him.
He's not a god.
He's close to a god, probably.
No, but I did hear, and now I don't know.
Let me just disclaim this.
I don't know if this is true.
I just had some people online tell me this, but they came from some people who I like, you know, I know and trust fairly.
But they have heard that he had some, I guess, old tweets of his had resurfaced that were getting him in a lot of trouble.
And this was a threat to his power.
Like, I don't know what it was.
Like, he said fag or something online, like, like a few years ago.
So this is like what brings you down in lefty, you know, fucking dystopian paradise or whatever.
So the first concert by their warlord, he's like, yo, and then I fucked that bitch.
And they're like, who put this guy in charge?
That's not the message.
Well, it's really a trip.
The whole thing is a trip.
And it's very weird that they're allowing them to do this.
They asked the governor about what his thoughts were on the thing.
And he said, he's that guy.
I'm blanking on his name, but he was one of the guys who ran for president, but was like, you know, like got like 0%.
He was like one of the 25 people who are running on the Democratic field.
And he was like, he goes, I'm not familiar with the situation.
And you're like, you're not familiar with the situation?
That's like, it's not just like, oh, it's trending on Twitter and it's being discussed around the country.
There is a portion of your downtown Seattle area that has seceded from the union.
These hacky sack people are always up to weird shit.
It's hard to really know what they're up to.
And they usually sleep outside.
And you got all your stinky people in one area.
It's not that bad.
You know what?
One of the things I like about it, so they go, listen, look, we don't need the cops.
We're all getting along here.
And I think that's part of the message is anytime a group of people can willingly decide, hey, we want to be in this area and we want to be left alone in this area, everyone kind of opt in and people get excited for that government.
And yeah, you don't really need cops.
Everybody's getting along because they want to cooperate.
It's when you force people to mingle together and live in areas and be forced to pay this or pay that.
That's when all of a sudden people aren't that excited about the system and they start disliking everybody else and trying to figure out how they can get theirs.
Well, yeah, but the thing is that, you know, and we'll almost get into it.
And we'll get into this.
But the problem with their system and some of these, you know, like whether we're talking about defunding the police, like we just did an episode where we talked about that a lot, or you're talking about this kind of like secession attempt.
I mean, I'm not, you know, obviously I'm speaking kind of tongue in cheek.
I don't think this is actually the beginning of a new nation and I doubt this is going to last very long and all of that.
I suppose I could be wrong, but that would be my guess.
But if we're talking about defunding the police or we're talking about an area seceding and forming their own community and these are at least vaguely and maybe not so vaguely somewhat libertarian ideas.
Like they're kind of in line with some of the stuff that we want to see.
And the problem, and to me, it kind of gets at what my whole purpose of doing this show has been from the beginning is that like, what is the problem?
Why is this obviously doomed to fail?
And to me, the answer is just, it's so simple.
It's like, because it's a bunch of leftists.
This is never going to work because it's a bunch of fucking leftists who don't know what they're doing, have not thought through the implications of any of these policies, and don't know how to build a society other than like, we shouldn't have racism and we should share.
And of course, that's doomed to be a disaster.
But the problem really in the country is that we don't have more libertarians.
And that's why my whole goal from all of this has just been to convince more and more people that this is the fucking way to go and that this whole system is bullshit and that actually this is the way to build a moral prosperous system.
And since nobody really has been sold on this, I mean, look, I've done my part, I guess.
I've brought in, you know, thousands and thousands of people to the movement or even libertarian leaning people, which is why I've never been super concerned over whether I can convince someone or not to be an ANCAP.
You know, like if I just want to get you to the point where, you know, the state is fucking evil and liberty in general is the way to go.
That's, that's fine by me.
But it's like, well, yeah, this is never going to work if you don't have people who, generally speaking, believe in liberty.
And that's, we're not there.
The liberty movement has in that sense failed.
And of course, this is a fucking disaster.
It's just going to be people spray painting all over everything, taking people's shit, extorting businesses.
This is all already happening.
Breaking into people's fucking homes.
Of course, that's what it's going to be.
Because if you don't have any theory of property rights and nobody believes in that shit, then it doesn't matter what you do.
And there's a real lesson to be learned for people who like liberty out of all of this.
Property Rights Culture00:02:40
And this is why, and, you know, people can bust my balls about it all you want to, but this is why I started talking a lot about culture.
And this is, by the way, what got me for whatever the, you know, trouble or whatever that I've gotten into.
This is why I'm on the racist comics list or, you know, fucking have the loser brigade, you know, giving me shit on Twitter or whatever.
Luckily for me, it's all a bunch of meaningless, you know, irrelevant people so far.
But this is because I started getting into the cultural conversation.
And the truth is that libertarians have to realize that absent that, you get nothing.
Like it doesn't matter if you got every libertarian policy in play that you wanted.
If it's occupied by a bunch of fucking leftists, it's not going to work.
You have to have a culture that somewhat supports a libertarian legal order.
Otherwise, it doesn't really matter because they're just going to, day one, have a warlord and recreate some type of fucking statist situation in some way.
So whether it's defunding the police or it's seceding from the union, this is going to have problems.
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Stop Frisk Laws00:15:56
Have they actually like ransacked, I guess, people's apartments from like within the yeah, there's been several reports of assaults, uh, break-ins, and a lot of extortion.
Or they're going around demanding money from uh from businesses in in the area.
Well, it'd be great if like in three weeks from now, they'd got to pivot the whole thing to another three blocks because they've consumed it all.
Well, I mean, of course, and this is and and the funny thing is that you know, like watching the um the good press that they've gotten, it really does it almost reminds me of you know, these archived articles that I've read about, um, you know, like the New York Times praising Castro's uh socialist experiment in Cuba or praising the Soviet Union or all these things where it's like, oh, yeah, I mean, this is literally obviously going to lead to a very bad situation for people who are there.
Um, and you're just encouraging them and just kind of uh, you know, um, you know, painting over all of the bad implications.
But this is my guess would be this is going to end badly.
And my the most likely outcome to me is that they're going to be crushed by the state.
Um, you know, the last time there was a secession uh attempt in America, it led to a civil war.
I would say the last incident of this was probably um Bundies when they took over that ranch.
Yes, but the bundies didn't actually uh um declare themselves a separate country and the bundies were in communication with law enforcement and it was a little bit different.
They took over an area that was unoccupied and you know, they were like kind of targeted by the federal government first.
Um, it's like I get your point, there's there's a comparison there, um, but this does feel a little bit different.
And by the way, the bundies, what ended up happening was they were crushed by the state.
That is, how long did they let Occupy Wall Street go on for?
That was like two weeks or something?
I think a little bit more than that before they evicted them from Zakati Park and they came in and the police fucking got them the fuck up.
They like literally, they just cleared it out at some point.
They were like, all right, enough of this bullshit.
So it'll be interesting to see how long they let it go for.
The other thing is that I think a lot of these people, and this is why I was saying recently, that I think a lot of it is a reaction to the lockdowns more so than it's a reaction to George Floyd, whether or not the people engage.
I think that's a big part of it.
That some of these people are like, oh, shit, if we get government out of here, we can just be outside and hang out.
In the few news reports I watch about it, people are like, this is great.
We party.
We get to be out and about.
Well, I think there's definitely, that's an element of it for sure.
And part of it might be a little bit more subconscious where it's just there's a lot of fucking pent up aggression.
You know, people haven't been outside, haven't been doing anything.
And as I said before, this is the only game in town.
You and I, I mean, every episode we're talking about how dumb the media is, but this to me showcases how relevant and powerful that machine still is because you take a group like the Proud Boys that somehow got labeled as terrorists.
Someone ended up going to jail for that little incident.
Yeah, someone went to like attacked.
They got attacked.
And while they got attacked, from what I remember, I mean, maybe I have my facts wrong on this, but from what I remember, they were getting attacked and someone punched someone and like they got in serious trouble for that.
And that's what happens when the media gets on your case and then they bring it all the way up to saying, hey, you're a terrorist organization and any move you make is hyper-criticized and you'll look at like an active threat versus these people where it's like, yeah, they're playing bongos.
They're hanging out.
Well, yeah, but I mean, it's, yeah, I don't even think there's any bongos.
I made up the bongo part.
You sure did.
But you're absolutely right that they can label somebody like the Proud Boys as fucking terrorists.
And to me, the Proud Boys was always, first off, it started as a fucking joke.
And I thought the whole thing was like lame.
That used to be, I used to bust Gavin's balls about how the thing was fucking lame.
But what would happen is every time they would go to hold an event, Antifa people would come and fucking assault people, threaten people, shit like that.
And eventually they were like, okay, we're going to rumble with these guys.
And so I don't know exactly who started the fight in that incident.
But Antifa showed up to their event and they were like dudes who were like down to fight.
And I think, and they beat a few of them up.
They won the fight and probably called them like, you know, fucking names while they were doing it.
And then they're like going to jail for terroristic threats and hate crimes and all this shit.
It's really awful.
But that is not what's happened to these guys so far.
But I'll tell you, I think a lot of them are kind of drunk off the adrenaline of this whole situation.
And it's feeling like, hey, it's basically lawless.
There's no one's fucking stopping us.
But I'll tell you, you know, it's like that fucking woman who threw the Molotov cocktails at the police car in New York City.
And she's like, oh, yeah, you're in the middle of this thing.
It's lawless.
Fuck the police.
Okay, I'm going to do this.
And you're like, yeah, okay.
Well, there's cameras on every block of New York City and they got your face and they know who you are.
And now you've been charged with attempted murder of two police officers, which is, you know, pretty serious.
This woman is going to go away for decades.
And I wonder, like this self-described warlord and some of these other people, I understand it's feeling like you're in a lawless society, but how long, you know, how long can you guys last for?
How long can you really keep going with this?
Because when you stop, it may not be tomorrow or the next day, but it might be months from now or years from now.
And you might end up being charged with some ridiculous terrorist fucking crazy statute.
The name Warlord is not going to look good in court.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, that one's not going to play well.
You should have called him Mr. Peace or Mr. Here for the People or End of, I don't know.
I'm not great with rap names, especially off the top of my head.
Maybe we could do a brainstorming session, but I can just tell you, Warlord's not going to play well.
Yeah, that's for sure.
You know, it's like, as we've, you know, talked about before in this, the thing that's so kind of tragic about this whole situation is that if Black Lives Matter were smarter and were able to strategize and actually wanted to get something done,
they had an opportunity with this fucking George Floyd Video that was released where almost all of America, I mean, as much of a consensus as you can get out of this country anymore, was like, that was wrong, and there's a real problem here.
And also, you know, it's like the country has been through like so much here to have to deal with this now.
And you could have just been like, look, we, what we stand against are these policies that we feel like have really hurt our community.
Okay.
And we want.
These five policy reforms and we're going to make our whole movement about that and that's what we're pushing for.
And the policy reforms could be like, you know, really important things like like, not even reforms, like abolishing policies, you know, like abolish the war on drugs, abolish qualified immunity, abolish civil asset forfeiture about.
You know, throw three more good ones in there like really really important things that if you could get done, guaranteed will help this situation enormously, like it, make a huge improvement on the situation.
And instead what you're seeing is they're they're marching against racism.
I mean, that's what that letter from the epidemiologist said, that racism is a is a public health issue.
So that that's what you're.
You know it.
It it's like the, the fucking status.
This is why, you see, by the way, the corporate press and the Democrats and all the big statists, they love that this movement.
Right, because nothing gets them harder than something like a war on racism, just like a war on terror or a war on drugs or a war on poverty or a war on inequality that, these grand, unwinnable wars, that something you can never possibly achieve.
Well, we're going to protest racism.
We're just going to protest until nobody's mean to anybody of a different race, oh that well, that should.
We should get that done in the next 10 000 years, I guess.
Like there's, you make it this impossible thing, and then you're sitting there and that now you create a situation if you were saying something like, let's just say you're against the war on drugs, you go.
Well, isn't it wrong that the cops can harass somebody who's fucking, you know, just not doing anything to anyone else, they're just putting something in their own body.
But civil asset forfeiture don't you think it's wrong that they can just take your money?
You could get a lot of people on your side with that at least to agree like yeah, we should do something about that.
But if you're just saying racist uh, the whole country is racist.
You, mr white guy, mr Fox NEWS Watching white guy, you're a racist, by the way, get down on your knees and kiss my feet to apologize for your racism.
It's like the reaction to that generally from all reasonable people is going to be like actually, how about go fuck yourself?
Instead of me having any sympathy for you, how about just go fuck yourself?
I think that works better for me.
No, I will not get on my knees because i'm a fucking man and i'm not a member of your dumb fucking cult.
If I was going to join a cult, i'd join a better, cooler one than this dumb shit.
And uh, on top of that, you let the average fucking you know white person In the country, go, I'm not a fucking racist.
Fuck you.
I'm no more racist than the average black guy is.
Never done anything wrong to a black person or brown person.
I don't fucking know what you're talking about.
It's like people like these fucking, this fucking retard, fucking no-name comic who put me on that fucking racist list.
Like, what?
I just, really, I just fucking, you don't like my comedy and I have different politics than you.
I mean, my best friend is a fucking, you know, Puerto Rican orphan, maniac, psychopath.
Have I not done my part for the brown community?
Am I required to do more?
But like, really, honestly, though, like, how racist am I really?
You know what I mean?
All of our lives would be so much easier if Lewis was just actually full black.
Oh, my God.
I would love.
It's like I'm trying to use him as my black friend and it's just not getting the that I need from it.
Yeah, full black.
But you just kind of create this pushback where right away you go like, well, no, we're not really a racist country.
That's just not really true.
The only people who think it's a we're really a racist country are the people who see racism everywhere where it doesn't exist.
And so you immediately create this situation where, number one, your goals are unachievable.
You're not going to end racism, especially when you define it as literally, they'll be like, we want to end racism.
And the definition of racism is every white person.
Every white person is inherently racist, no matter who they are, no matter what they believe.
It's like, okay, well, then guess what?
You're not going to end white people, at least no time soon.
So that's any success is now out the window.
Now people, you've lost all sympathy.
You've lost all goodwill.
And you've created this huge pushback movement against you.
This is really just a fucking sad situation.
And in the middle of it, there's a lot of collateral damage.
Yeah, I've been trying to wrap my head around exactly what you're describing there, but you got a movement where on paper, I agree with every part of it.
I mean, you've spoken about for years how there is systematic racism, things like stop and frisk and the country's drug laws.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
It should not exist.
But somehow you managed to take this thing and flip it in a way that feels not just like it's alienating, but like it's kind of like you've said this about feminism where they go, well, I'm a feminist.
All right.
Well, I guess I actually, if that's the definition that women and men are equal, then yeah, I guess I'm a feminist, but I would never say that because I know that's not what you really mean.
I know that there's more of an agenda there and that you're not just standing by that definition.
Yeah, if it's that definition, 100%.
Yes, we're all equal.
Never, never thought we weren't equal.
But I know that me saying I'm a feminist does not convey that.
I know that like, and I feel gross saying it because I'm alleging myself with something that I know is not just that definition.
And in some ways, the Black Lives Matter thing has that same feeling to it where it's like, I agree with everything you guys like, I agree with you.
Yeah, Black Lives Matter, 100%.
No one should be, you know, choked out by a cop.
Yeah, we should figure out how to get rid of some of the racist issues here.
But somehow you've managed to alienate me and feel like there's an agenda here.
Right.
And the real problem is what I said before.
It's like the problem at the heart of this, and there's just no way to dance around this or to find something.
The problem is that they're all a bunch of fucking leftists and they're all stupid.
And not like, no, I shouldn't say they're stupid.
Some of them might be smart people.
Stupid might be too harsh of a word.
They're in a cult that's based off of a retarded philosophy.
That's what it is.
You've dedicated your life to ideas that are wrong and dumb and logically like self-defeating.
Like there's no self-detonating or whatever.
I mean, it's like, look, here's the thing is that you can say, like, even when you were saying like, what I've been talking about for years are that there are systematic, there's systematic racism or something like that.
It's not even really Precisely true that there is anything in the laws that are systematically racist.
There are laws that infringe on people's rights.
And many times those laws end up infringing on black people's rights more than they do, like disproportionately or something like that.
That is true.
I think that's just kind of a fact.
But the problem with it isn't the racism.
The problem is that people's fucking rights are being violated and it's immoral.
And it doesn't matter if it's happening to, like, this is the thing.
I remember talking about this on the podcast before, but this always used to stick with me.
And it'd be like one of those things.
And this is what you find, even when you're on more or less the side of a leftist, right?
Like, you're kind of with them on the policy.
Like, they're against stop and frisk.
And we're also against stop and frisk.
And they'll go, well, the problem with stop and frisk is that it disproportionately affects brown and black people.
Like it just doesn't exist.
Well, right.
Well, that's actually not even a problem.
Like, it's not.
It doesn't matter who, like, the proportionality has nothing to do with it.
It's either a just or unjust policy.
So if just to say it's like, if stop and frisk is wrong, that like morally speaking, then it would be wrong if it happened to 5% black people, 10% black people, 50% black people, or 100% black people.
It shouldn't matter either way.
It really just shouldn't.
In other words, like if your problem is the proportionality, then what if we made it proportional?
What if just as many black and brown people were being stopped in frisk, but we just upped the amount of white and Asians that were being stopped and frisked until it reached proportion?
We had it perfect, you know?
63% were white, 13% were black, whatever the other percentages are, it was exactly representative.
Then is the policy okay?
No, because you're still, it's still a violation of basic freedom that just for walking down the street, the cops can stop, humiliate, harass, and fucking go through your shit.
Like that's just, it's just wrong.
And if you want to live in a free society, you can't have that shit.
Privileged Perspectives00:15:31
So it doesn't matter what, but they're just in this fucking mentality.
So their mentality is always based off this retarded philosophy.
So even when you say with what, like, they'll be like, well, I'm a feminist because I believe in equality of the sexes.
And you're like, okay, well, like, like legal equality?
Like, we're equal under the law.
Okay.
I guess I'm with you with that.
But then it's kind of like, no, just equality.
You're like, well, I mean, men and women are different, right?
And then you're like, well, that's now you're Hitler.
Now you're Hitler for saying that.
That's like only a Nazi would believe something as outrageous as there are differences between men and women.
These are the people and many of them.
I don't mean to just like strawman them, but this is like more or less real shit that comes out of these movements.
And so of course, when they start talking about this shit, it's just going to be a fucking nightmare.
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I saw Michael Malice brought up.
Did I talk about this on the last episode?
Maybe I did, but Michael Malice brought up the CNN, the CNN interview with the council woman from Minneapolis who is like pushing the defund the police thing.
And so it was like one of the, I think it was Brooke Baldinger or whatever.
It was one of the CNN female anchors.
And she's asking her, you know, about defund the police.
And she's being kind because the corporate press is, as you can tell, they're bending over backward to be very kind to these protest riots, you know, all of this stuff, the Black Lives Matter Antifa, all of them, they bend over backward for them.
And it's not like a crazy mystery why that is.
They believe they can harness this energy and use it against Trump.
And that's been their, you know, pretty much the goal from the very beginning.
And so now you've got a big movement and you're thinking, oh, maybe we can use this against Trump.
You know, forget, forget for the moment all the, you know, absurdities of trying to harness this movie, this movement into supporting Joe Biden, the author of the 94 Crime Bill.
But regardless, that's what they're trying to do.
But you can tell she's being very kind to her.
She's not being hostile the way she would to a right-winger, but you can tell she's asking her.
She's like, so tell me about this defund the police.
But you could tell the spirit of it is like, this sounds bad shit crazy to me.
Like, no more politics, you know, but she doesn't say that.
But she goes to her at one point.
And I thought it was so funny because as like an anarcho-capitalist, we've just like lived in this world of thought experiments and abstractions and hypotheticals to a fault.
No question about it.
To a fault.
We've spent so much time on these hypothetical situations that like we're just with our fellow autists just fucking nerding out over.
And probably some of that time should have been spent, you know, in other ways.
But we've thought this through a lot.
And so we have answers for a lot of these situations.
It's very easy.
And we have techniques and methods to help people understand what life without a state might look like.
And, you know, like whatever.
We do this all the time.
But she doesn't because she's a dumb leftist.
So she doesn't know.
She's never fucking thought about this shit before at all.
But this is the new movement.
And so this is what we're doing.
And so the CNN host goes to her and says, okay, so, you know, here's a concern.
Someone breaks into my house.
I'm used to being able to call 911.
What do I do now?
Right?
There's no police.
So like, what do I do if someone breaks into my house?
Something you think you would have to have an answer for if you were talking about DeFi.
And her response was.
Chances are they're black, so they're just entitled to your stuff now.
Not that far off.
Not that far off.
No, her answer was, well, basically, that's your white privilege.
Oh, is that you would think I can call it cops?
I can think I can't do that.
No one should be allowed that.
That shouldn't exist.
So that's, yeah.
That's your answer.
That's basically, was her answer.
She goes, I understand that.
And I've heard that concern from a lot of people, but I think really that's your privilege.
That's a privileged perspective.
And we have to listen to people of color.
And it's like, okay, so good luck with that message.
Nobody should feel safe.
Nobody.
That shouldn't be part of the fabric of society is that you should feel safe in your home because that is an element of privilege.
And so, really, that shows what they're trying to do.
They're trying to drag everybody down.
They want everybody.
And it's not just like that.
There's like a couple elements to it.
Like, number one, that's fucking just insane.
Like, it's like, oh, well, yeah, I mean, you've had privilege.
So I guess you got to get raped.
Sorry.
Like, we're just not going to think of anything to like.
You have to have an answer of some sort, at least a possibility of what could happen there.
Like, you know, I mean, I don't know, like me or your answer would be if there weren't state-run police, well, there'd be no restriction on gun ownership.
So you could protect yourself.
There would, you know, you could hire other people to protect you.
You know, like something, some attempt at something, not just like, well, that's your white privilege.
And you have to say, okay, I've come to terms with my white privilege.
So I'm going to allow myself to be raped and killed because I've had this white privilege for all these days.
I mean, come on.
And you also, it's like, okay, look, I am somebody who I would say, despite what my, and honestly, it's, it's pretty fucking hilariously ironic, but despite the fact that I'm like on this fucking, you know, racist comedian Facebook post or that I get shit from these fucking, you know, fruitcake loser brigade supposed libertarians for being this like bigot or something like that.
I have for fucking years in a very passionate way been talking about what the fuck is happening to the people in Yemen, in Libya, in Syria, in Iraq, like places where there's real problems.
Like I'm not out there on the streets fucking pretending to be, you know, talk about the legacy of slavery.
I'm talking about the fucking slavery going on right now in Libya because of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, even though technically Joe Biden was against that one, but still he was the vice president there and fucking he didn't resign or anything like that.
So there's definitely part of the blame on him.
But like, so that's the shit that I'd fucking talk about when no one else in my world was fucking like inserting those issues because I actually really care about that shit.
I think I've got a pretty long track record of really caring about that shit.
But if you ever told me that, well, you know, it's like my privilege, and by the way, there wouldn't be zero truth to this, right?
That we have benefited in some way from the system that is the United States of America.
And this same system has been committing genocide against the people in Yemen or something like that.
But if you told me that because of that, because I have to recognize my privilege in compared to their harsh time of it, which by the way, the people of Yemen have a slightly harder time than black people in America have been having.
They were the poorest country in the Middle East before America started their war of genocide against them.
They're, you know, a million plus cases of cholera, tens of thousands of babies dying, really, just slightly worse than African Americans in America.
That's when you start really, it's just a power grab.
We're living in the land of free stuff.
And it's how can we position ourselves as being the most disenfranchised so that you can't possibly challenge the idea that we need to be propped up.
Yes.
But I'm just saying that even someone like me who really does care about those problems, if you were ever to say to me, well, in order to address those problems, if your family's got to get raped and killed, that's just, you know, we just got to accept that in order to try to help those guys out.
I'd have to shoot you a no, a no and a go fuck yourself.
And that's someone who really does care about those people in those fucking awful situations.
But no, I'm sorry.
I'm not on board if my family is threatened.
And so the idea that you're going to sell this to people who aren't as concerned about these suffering people, it's like, dude, how could you possibly sell something when your answer to what if I'm about to be raped and killed, essentially, is, I know.
It's a bummer.
Also, the woman who said that with the, well, that's an aspect of privilege is the second something was going wrong in her life, she'd be the first to complain.
She wouldn't go, oh, look, my water's not on.
The water in my apartment got turned off.
Good.
I get to experience what it is to be poor for an evening.
They never have that.
Like their food would be 10 seconds late in a restaurant or not like the proper degree of warm.
And they're the first person complaining to management about the black waiter who brought it over one temperature down.
Like they don't believe that shit for one second.
I don't even get like why they say it.
You know what I mean?
Like there's no, but back to the Black Lives Matter thing.
The other thing that like a rising tide lifts all ships.
And I think if we get distracted about things that are not the biggest issues to society, then we don't fix the bigger issues.
And I'm legitimately concerned.
I think inflation is the enemy of the people.
It gets rid of saving.
It gets rid of investment.
It destroys the entire fabric of society, which is, hey, I'm going to like, I'm mad about inflation right now.
I've got some money.
I don't know what the fuck to do with it.
I don't want to put it in the stock market.
And I'm afraid that if I leave it in cash, it's going to go away.
I feel compulsive.
Like that, that to me is infuriating.
To have money, you want to save it.
And you're like, well, where do I put this?
That it isn't just robbed from me because the government, like, and that is the single biggest fabric of society that like people are not being compulsive because they know, hey, there's going to be more money.
If I put aside some of my money, I'm going to have more of it later.
And that affects everybody.
That affects top to bottom.
That affects people's decisions to save where they invest, the business opportunities and the jobs that even lower income people can have.
And the government's doing it right now.
No one's talking about it.
And it's because everyone's obsessed over these racial divisions, which are created when you stay the line, Black Lives Matter.
And so you're inserting race into, you know what I mean?
You're actively creating a racial division that we're the special group of people.
We're different.
And so we need to be propped up as opposed to what you were talking.
Yeah.
No, you're absolutely, you're 100% right.
I mean, I think you're hitting the nail on the head, almost to a point where it makes me go in some like, like entertain some conspiratorial kind of like angles of all of this.
Because yes, look, man, you're coming off the greatest mass plundering of the American people in our history.
And we've had some big ones.
But what the Federal Reserve has done during this whole COVID lockdown, extending trillions of dollars to all of these financial institutions that have already been bailed out by the American people just a decade ago, or a little more than a decade ago, 12 years ago, and the hundreds of billions of dollars in corporate welfare that the Congress has given out.
And while the government kicked 40 million people out of work and we're now finding out it wasn't necessary, the epidemiologists have humiliated themselves by coming out now and saying it's okay to protest racism.
This whole thing just stinks like bullshit.
The truth is we could have just not shut down the economy, tried to explain what was going on to the American people, let people take the level of risk that they're comfortable taking, try to protect the people who are at high risk.
But after all of that, and you had a moment, and this is, by the way, the thing that really infuriates me, like second only to the horrific violence and destruction of property, which I just think is terrible, just awful.
And as I've explained in previous episodes, it doesn't matter how bad the cops are.
You don't get to just go, you know, fucking assault innocent people.
Like, I don't care that you're mad about that shit that happened.
That's like, that's not an acceptable justification any more than like, you know, your brother died of a heart attack.
So I went and beat the shit out of my neighbor.
Like, okay, he didn't do anything.
That's not, I don't care how angry you are.
Or your brother was murdered by someone else who wasn't your neighbor.
It doesn't matter.
But second to that, you had this situation in the country where a lot of people were waking up to the fact that the government was fucking them over.
And in a really unprecedented way, right-wingers were getting red-pilled on the cops.
They were really kind of pitted against the cops in this whole lockdown shit.
They see the cops going around and arresting people for the crime of having a catch with their daughter in the park.
By the way, people have given me shit about saying having a catch.
That's always what I grew up hearing.
What's wrong with having a catch?
Having a catch.
Then people were saying, no, it's playing catch.
And I was like, no one ever said playing catch to me.
It's have a catch.
Have a catch with the old man.
I don't even have an old man and I know this.
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Opportunistic Arguments00:15:02
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All right.
Anyway, but so the, it's like right-wingers were getting red-pilled on the cops.
And now you've created a situation where you drove them right back into the cops' arms because they're like, oh, shit.
They see, they see how the cops are being treated by these fucking like rioters.
And they're like, fuck that.
We need something.
I hope the cops put this down by any means necessary.
So it's like, it almost seems just so convenient that right after, you know, the American people are screwed over in this monumental way by their government, that of course they pick this fucking, you know, this issue gets put in the forefront, which is obviously going to divide Americans along racial lines.
They're always trying to divide Americans along racial lines, along, you know, sexual, you know, male versus female, gay versus straight, black versus white, all of these things where really it's kind of like almost in a kind of quasi-Marxist sense, right?
If you want to look at things in terms of classes, I mean, I don't look at it like the bourgeois versus the fucking proletariat, but if I do kind of look at it as like the class of people being fucked over by the state and then the class of the ruling elite, like the fucking politicians, the media, and the people, you know, like the big banks, the big corporations, the people who are like the politicians are in the pocket of.
Those, like that class is fucking over this whole class.
So why is this whole class always pitted against each other fighting?
And it's not like, you know, it just seems like really convenient timing to have this become the whole fucking thing.
And so while they love that, as you were pointing out before, the whole Black Lives Matter movement seems to just be, whether wittingly or unwittingly, insistent on making sure that this will be a divisive issue that will pit Americans against each other.
And down to the point where it's like out of a fucking cartoon parody.
Like you couldn't believe this is real.
Like, I want white people to kneel and apologize to me for your whiteness.
But how do you think this is going to play out?
It's not going to work out.
You know, I've said this before on one of the episodes that we did talking about Jews, talking about our people on the JQ, where I just said, and I'm not even just on like a moral level, although there is that element to it as well.
But I was saying just on a strategic level, like, and this is my kind of message to Jews out there in general.
It's like, if you're like 2% of a population and you're in this population and you're doing very well, you're thriving, you know, like by every metric, like as a people, you're doing very well.
You might want to, it might behoove you to try to make sure that what you're doing helps the country in general.
And this is like the thing where me and you were saying that it's like, it's like, you know, could we just have one Fed chairman who's not a Jew?
Like, could we just have like one, you know what I mean?
Like maybe try not to get into areas that hurt the country and make it perceived as if you're to, you know, just anyway, that was my whole kind of train of thought.
Like it just might be better for you because you're really, you are a very small minority and you don't want 98% of people to not like you.
But also it's like for Black Lives Matter, it's like, well, listen, if you've got some policy reforms that you want to push, like, okay, let's hear them.
But you guys are still 13% of the population.
What is this?
Every white person has to fucking apologize for their original sin of having white skin.
What's the plan here?
Like, how is this going to work out?
How is this?
How does this not end in disaster and probably more disaster for you?
That would be my guess.
And why not go for the more noble cause that helps everybody?
Why not make the slogan, all lives matter, and this terrible thing happened to us?
And so we don't want to see it happen to everybody.
Why do you have to make it?
Yeah, it's a weird thing because I've been, I don't know, I've been trying to like wrap my head around a little bit more of trying to maybe see their perspective because you're just, it's so loud and I'm just not quite getting it yet.
But it's such a divisive line because they try and make it out like if you're not agreeing with them, then you're against, you're not just against their cause, but that shows you're ingrained that you're union factor racist.
I don't know.
I don't really get where they're coming from ever, which is no different than anything else.
But it's amazing on how on the really loud issues, they can try and even convince you, hey, maybe I should censor myself on this one.
Well, I mean, I do, look, I understand that there are black people all around the country.
Now, I don't know if this is what percentage of black people this is, but it's a good amount of black people all around the country who live in neighborhoods that are very heavily policed and they do not like the police.
And they feel like this is, they kind of feel the way that, you know, Palestinians in the fucking West Bank or in Gaza feel about the Israeli military.
They feel like this is a foreign military unit that's coming in there and kind of ruling over them.
And they're afraid of them in many different instances.
And I think that that is valid.
I mean, like, I think there's a fair point to that.
And whether or not it is a high crime area or something like that, you'd still, you have to realize that even in really high crime areas, the majority of people aren't murderers.
The majority of people aren't going out there and beating the shit out of somebody like on a regular basis.
That's most people aren't that.
And yet they're being policed by an outside, you know, like organization, at least from their perspective, who, as far as they're concerned, is looking at them like they might be that fucking criminal.
And I get where those people don't like that.
I think there's a really legitimate complaint to that.
But part of the problem with making it just a race issue instead of specifying it to being ruled by this, you know, military organization that you see as an oppressive invader.
Because of course, right, as a libertarian or just as a decent person, I would be completely on board.
I would like be like more fucking power to you if Black Lives Matter said, we don't want your security force anymore.
We want to figure out how to protect ourselves.
And if you want them to be your security force, that's fine.
But I don't want to pay for them and I don't want them coming into my neighborhood.
I think you have every right to secede in that sense from the police.
And I think any community has the right to do that if they wish to.
They have the right of like self-determination in that sense.
So more power to you if that's your issue.
But, you know, what happens?
A lot of people, like a lot of libertarians, even, but mostly like leftists who would get like really furious with Charles Murray and people like that because he would talk about racial differences and IQ, you know, and they would say, even though he's not advocating anything against groups who have a lower average IQ, right?
Even though he's not saying anything, they'd say, but the implications of this analysis is that we should do something about that.
Like the accusation would be that there's like you would take his research and use it toward promoting eugenics or something like that, right?
Now, I think that's a little bit unfair.
I mean, if you're just in the realm of talking about science, I think you can dispute the science or not, but I don't think it's fair to blame someone for that, right?
But, okay, I'll at least understand what they're saying.
Their argument is if you start racializing things at all, it could lead to racist violence or something like that.
Okay.
I can at least understand that argument.
Don't necessarily agree with it in every application, but I understand the argument.
But I'd ask those same people to say, well, what's the implication of racializing all of this outrage against the police about making it about racism, about white people?
Why do you think it is that so many of these people who have been out in the streets over the last few weeks have felt comfortable to go fucking loot a store or burn down a building or assault people?
Because it's all seen as white guys.
It's like the enemy is white people.
And so we're getting back at them.
And the police force is seen as just one expression of white.
The whole system is white.
So that's why there's, you know, like that's target.
I mean, a lot of it's just opportunism, but that's why it's like they're okay with going after like businesses or whatever.
So, okay, if like if you're going to make that kind of slippery slope argument, what about the racist shit coming out of the left?
I think there's also, you know, that argument applies there.
And in fact, I actually think it applies there where it doesn't really to someone like Charles Murray.
But that's just my Opinion on that issue.
All right.
So, one other thing that I wanted to talk about, and it was kind of more broadly on the same theme of the problem being the fucking culture and that it's dominated by leftists.
And this is, I don't know if you saw this, Rob, but there was an ad boycott against Tucker Carlson on Fox News.
So, some big ones too.
Yes, very big ones.
T-Mobile pulled out.
I'm trying to get the rest of them.
Multiple in the future either.
Just trying to see what the other sponsors were who pulled out.
I thought I had.
I know Disney.
Disney was a big one.
Disney pulled out right, right.
I'm going to say, while you're looking at that, I'm going to say something conspiracy, third conspiracy.
And I didn't look at the list of sponsors, but I think real media money in some ways is all government money.
And like what you were saying with why is Boeing?
I think Scott Horn said, why is Boeing taking a commercial on Fox News?
And it's because, you know, they're bribing the media people for good coverage on their wars, which are very favorable to him.
I think as a person who works in the advertising space for media, I think that there's a different level of money that flows to your traditional news organizations and your traditional television organizations.
And like, I remember a while ago hearing about, I guess, when we were kind of butting heads with the Rush, like the CIA was buying up artwork by like Andy Warhol and other people to try and see, make it seem like America fine art was like on the rise and it just wasn't.
And I'm willing to bet like the traditional news outlets and the money that's flowing through them, I'd be highly surprised if in some way it's not being influenced by like, I mean, take T-Mobile.
I know that ATT is in the big data game.
They sell a ton of money to the government.
I know that.
I don't know if T-Mobile is in on that, but it's not crazy that whoever's doing the big data buys is going, hey, I don't like what's going on over there anymore.
You can't advertise.
Or, hey, listen, I'll do this big data buy, but you know what I mean?
Like, there's a lot of money flowing in and out of government.
And the idea that they can't be, you know, backdoor funneling cash and in big numbers to like certain places.
That's just kind of my takeaway on that.
And I didn't research this a whole lot.
It's just a general feeling I get about the money in these news companies.
Yeah.
No, I think you're on to something there for sure.
But it's really, it's kind of amazing that Tucker Carlson is, I mean, he goes back and forth with Hannity.
I'm not sure whose ratings are higher at the moment, but he's number one or number two every single night in cable news.
And he's always number one in the ad buyers demographic, whatever it is, like the 18 to 35 year old demographic.
And so it is pretty crazy to watch something that, you know, like millions and millions of Americans are watching every night.
And yet they'll go advertise on these shows on CNN where literally they're getting fucking, I mean, if you take the airport bullshit fucking numbers out of the equation, they're getting like a few hundred thousand people to listen to some of these shows.
They're not really tracking the profits from this.
Like, you don't understand, they hold some advertisers to like the letter of direct marketing.
Where's my promo code?
What's my website traffic?
Blah, blah, blah.
All this bullshit.
CNN's not being accounted for any of that.
And then, I mean, we could look through the roster of advertisers.
I almost never watched CNN, but how much fucking medical shit is there?
More often than not, that's the ads I'm seeing.
It's a medical company.
The idea that big pharma's not trying to throw a shit ton of money over that way.
Well, listen, I think you're right.
I mean, again, I don't know this, like, but I would suspect that you're right, that there is all types of kind of dirty things going on behind the scenes with some of these giant corporations that are in bed with the government.
However, there's also pretty clearly a cultural aspect to this, and it's kind of the broader cancel culture dynamic where you, what Tucker Carlson has been doing.
And listen, by the way, I mean, the funny thing is that it's like we literally had a running segment on the show called Contra Carlson.
And there were people who wanted me to start a podcast called Contra Carlson, you know, like, because I'm.
I've criticized Tucker on many occasions where I think he gets something wrong.
But Tucker is like undeniably, in my opinion, the most interesting show on cable news.
It's actually, it's like the only show to me that's actually really thoughtful, really thought-provoking, really like takes things from a different point of view than other people, even on his own network.
He'll be very critical of Trump at times, very critical of the left at times, harshly, crazy critical of the neocons, like unbelievably so, really very principled in many different areas.
And the fact that he's doing this and getting and so successful and so many people are into it and watching it.
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And then there's just this mob of left-wing people who he offended.
So they're going to try to boycott him.
But it's this dynamic that happens all the time.
And this is why somebody, you know, like you'll see it all the time where it's like this real perversion of capitalism where the market is not working.
And it's not working in the way that I would expect it to or would want it to.
I mean, truthfully, if we were just looking at this on paper, I would probably say that no one who's the number one show and is number one in the demographic is going to have trouble getting advertisers.
Because even if there's an angry mob of people who are upset, you'd go, but obviously there's way more people who are into it and there's money and we're a corporation and we care about money.
So obviously the invisible hand would solve this problem, but it's not.
And that's something for free market types to pay attention to.
And my, you know, understanding of this is I think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying, that there is dirty statist money being involved in this.
But I also think that it's like, it's a fucking cultural problem and that this might just be outside of the scope of libertarianism, yet still something that libertarians need to care about, which is that if, no, even if you get the libertarian policy, if you have a culture full of fucking leftists, they're going to ruin it.
And this is an example of that, where the truth is that they, the, the small mob relatively to the millions of people who watch Tucker Carlson are so offended that he didn't kneel and kiss the ring of Black Lives Matter.
And he's been very critical of the riots and all this shit, that they will endlessly, ferociously continue to fucking call him a Nazi or whatever they're calling him until you drop the fucking sponsorship.
And they're just fucking, a lot of companies don't want to deal with that shit.
They don't want to deal with the people who will actually protest, will actually show up, will actually boycott, will do all of these things.
And the other side, like the right wing of America, is just not that motivated to do these things.
And I suspect a lot of it is because they have families and jobs.
And I also think they're a little bit more dignified and that you've seen when what a real, like you guys know what I'm describing.
When you deal with a real nasty lady, where she'll go to, and like, even if you wanted to spite, you just wouldn't do that.
And I'm not going to even, like, I can't think of the specific right now, but you all know what I'm describing.
You've had that interaction where just someone went and they did, they pushed it so far.
You wouldn't even revenge, like, do it just because that's kind of what the left's doing with the spot.
You're like, I'm not going to go after your sponsors.
Like, yeah, I don't agree with you, but I'm just not going to do that.
That's like so low.
But also, what you were saying with the, this is where it also becomes a little bit hard to support the Black Lives Matter is that you might even agree, like I said, you might agree with their cause, but you can see that it's a chessboard.
Like, there's a piece here, which is the more we call attention to the racial discrimination that exists in this country and that it's the most important issue, the easier it is for them to call a racist and ruin your income.
Like, because you're, even if you're not doing anything that's racist, the fact that you're not playing into the biggest issue in the entire country, everything's been solved.
There's no issue with our money.
There's no issue with the economy.
There's no issue with form.
There's nothing.
There's one issue here, and that's that there's racial segregation against black people.
And that is the single most, that is the identity of our country, is that we have to solve this horrible issue.
And look, this guy's on the wrong side of it.
So, and that's the problem with playing into the importance of that issue being number one, because it becomes, like you said, it's the religion of the left.
It becomes, hey, am I sworn to this thing that is the fabric of our whole society?
Well, it's not.
There are bigger issues floating on all around us.
And I can see the chess piece here that you're trying to make it all about this thing that's not really that big of an issue.
So you can more easily remove us for not being 100% aligned with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the truth is that, you know, I mean, obviously these things are complicated because it's like we're talking about a whole society and there's lots of different factors.
And the truth is that, okay, if you want to talk about like racism or discrimination against different groups, well, certainly it's not as bad for like,
say, a college-educated white guy as it is, like life is not as bad for a college-educated white guy as it is for some fucking black kid who's growing up in one of these really just crime-ridden, horrible, you know, like impoverished neighborhoods, right?
But what's keeping that area crime-ridden and horribly impoverished, at least by American standards, is not all white people discriminating against you.
I mean, I don't even know that that's much of it.
You could argue that there are policies that have fucking really hurt those areas.
I certainly would.
I mean, I really think the welfare state, the war on drugs, these are, there are lots of things that I'd like to abolish that I think would help the situation a lot.
But that's not the entire situation.
There's also like some percentage of it has to be on the people of that community.
I don't know exactly what it is, but it sure as fuck ain't zero.
You know what I mean?
There's something there.
Now, that's so it's a complicated situation.
But if you want to just have a conversation about racism, I think there's a whole lot of white people in the country who are like, dude, I'm discriminated against at every turn.
I mean, did you freeze on me there, Robbie?
You still got me, Brian?
Yeah, I'm still here, Robbie.
You're still here.
It's on Robbie's end then.
Okay, well, I can just wrap this up then.
But so there's a whole lot of white people who are like, I mean, I'm discriminated against.
I'm discriminated against when I'm applying for college.
I'm discriminated against in corporate America because I can be called racist and reported to the HR department.
I'm discriminated against on social media and all this other shit.
So it's just going to flip.
I mean, like, of course, if I had my drothers, I'd be like, let's just get rid of all that shit.
And maybe we can either be friends and live together or peacefully coexist apart.
Either way, just let people do it voluntarily.
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And I think that would make for the most harmonious society.
But, you know, it feels like almost when I say things like that, like I'm just hopelessly preaching into the ether these days.
All right.
Anyway, we're going to wrap up the show there for Robbie Bernstein, who decided to glitch out on us and dip out a few minutes earlier.
Oh, you're back.
There you are.
I was just wrapping up.
And you were saying how great I was.
Thank you.
And that everyone should listen to Run Your Mouth and follow Robbie the Fire and that they haven't done enough to support me or my causes.
And they should just send me money in envelopes because now I don't have an apartment anymore and I got to find a new place to live.
And most importantly, that they should follow me at Robbie the Fire and listen to the Run Your Mouth podcast.
That's what you were saying, right?
I was going to go a totally different direction with it, but you know what?
I'll leave it with what you said right there.
And don't forget, I'm going to be at Freedom Fest this year, guys, in July.
I'm at Freedom Fest.
It's official.
It's going forward.
I'm hosting the entire event.
Come on out.
Let's go fucking party with some liberty-loving people together.