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The Chronicles of Narnia Christmas Special

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Christ is King.
This year marks the 75th anniversary of a modern Christian classic, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis, published in 1950.
To this day, the novel is beloved by young and old alike.
From the beloved book to various stage adaptations to the big screen.
The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is one of our culture's most well-known stories.
The classic takes place in World War II, England.
Siblings Peter, Susan, Edmund, and Lucy are sent from their home in London to live with a family friend in the country.
It's there they discover the wardrobe that transports them into the magical land of Narnia.
Merry Christmas, sir.
It certainly is, Lucy, since you have arrived.
Winter is almost over.
Long live Aslan.
And Merry Christmas!
We should go.
Susan!
Long live King Peter.
Long live the king of earth.
Long live Queen Susan.
All right, folks, it is Christmas time again.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition of Human Events Daily.
It's December 2025.
And this year, it's true.
It's a little different.
We've lost so much.
Charlie Kirk, my friend, my brother in the fight, a warrior for truth, faith, and America was taken from us in September.
It feels like just a couple of weeks ago.
He was struck down by evil.
Out there on the front lines, debating on college campuses, trying to wake up the next generation assassinated.
Just like that.
A husband, a father, Christian will not be with his family this Christmas.
We all feel it.
It's like a long, endless winter has settled over everything.
And that's why this Christmas, I'm going back and I would invite you to join me to go back to a story that shaped me and perhaps you as well as a kid.
And one I think God put in front of us right now for a reason is C.S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
Yes, the Narnia book.
This is not just a children's tale.
It might even be the perfect Christmas story for 2025, precisely because it feels like we've been living in Narnia's darkest hour.
So think about it.
In Narnia, the white witch always cursed the land.
Remember, always winter, never Christmas.
That's how the end of 2025 has felt, hasn't it?
A frozen wasteland, cold, division, endless attacks on truth tellers, political violence, the loss of Charlie.
And we lost Charlie the same way that the witch turned the heroes of Narnia to stone.
They freeze us in fear.
They make us forget what Christmas means, breaking through the ice.
And you remember what happens in Narnia?
If you go back and watch the movie, Father Christmas.
Yes, Santa Claus himself shows up and hands the gifts out to the children.
And what does he say?
Aslan is on the move.
The great lion is coming.
And when Aslan roars back, that's when the snow starts melting.
The spring breaks through.
The witch's spell begins to crack because deeper magic is at work.
The magic from before the dawn of time.
Well, that's Christmas, isn't it?
That's the gospel that Lewis wove right into the heart of the story.
Ashland, the Christ figure, lays down his life on the stone table, willing to sacrifice himself for traitors, like Edmund.
And we're all like Edmund a little times, you know, sometimes.
The witch, she thinks she's Juan.
She mocks him, she kills him, but death itself works backwards.
Aslan rises, stronger than ever, shatters the table, defeats evil, and restores Narnia.
Charlie Kirk, in many ways, lived that story.
He sacrificed every day for truth, for young people, for the gospel in the public square.
And evil thought that it could end him on that campus in Utah, but no.
Like Ashland, Charlie's voice echoes louder.
You might even say it roars.
And we're all stepping up.
We have to.
A million more Charlies.
As we said at his memorial, the movement is not frozen.
It is thawing.
Because the true lion, Jesus Christ, came to earth at Christmas.
He conquered death at Easter, and he is still on the move today.
So in 2025, amid the grief, the rage, the uncertainty, read the story to your kids.
Watch the movie.
Remember, winter does not last forever.
Evil's power is temporary.
Sacrifice leads to victory.
And Christmas is the announcement that the king has come and he's coming again.
Ashland is on the move, America.
Merry Christmas.
The thaw is coming.
We'll be right back with Dr. Taylor Marshall.
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Turkish Delight Edmund Jack with Silviker back live here.
It is our Narnia special here on Human Events Daily, Narnia Christmas special.
And I want to bring in now Dr. Taylor Marshall, host of the Dr. Taylor Marshall Show.
What's going on, Taylor?
Hey, happy Advent and Merry Christmas.
Happy Advent and Merry Christmas.
Now, we're talking about this film, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and sort of C.S. Lewis writ large in his body of work as a Christian apologist and the way that he wove the story of the gospel into, you know, into his series, but specifically even The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
It's Aslan, the sacrifice, the witch, the devil, the temptation of the children.
There's so much.
It's such a rich story.
The forgiveness, the repentance, the remission of sin, the paying of debts, which is a huge piece throughout all of the series and throughout all of this, you know, the first episode of it.
And I, of course, stick to the original order of the Narnia books, not the updated order where they try to put other things in there.
And by the way, for the record, I just right off the bat, I'm completely against whatever Greta Gerwig is going to do and Netflix is going to do with Narnia.
Just totally against it.
It sounds absolutely horrible.
Female Ashland, just really, really bad.
But we're saying this in the context of Charlie Kirk's death.
And I said, this Christmas, it feels like we've been living through the endless winter.
You know, since September when we lost Charlie, when he was murdered, taken from us.
And I wanted to get you on because I realized we haven't even had you on since then.
So I'm thinking it's like we're in the endless winter.
Christmas comes, but we're still dealing with that.
C.S. Lewis is there to talk to us.
Dr. Taylor Marshall, help us make sense of all of this.
Yeah, well, it's great to be back.
I think I was on your show just a few days before we lost Charlie.
So it's been a little bit, you know, your comparison to the Chronicles of Narnia with always winter, never Christmas.
That's how C.S. Lewis describes basically the state of original sin or fallen Narnia.
It's always winter.
It's never Christmas.
And if you think about in our own lives, you know, in 2025, what gets us through winter?
What makes us excited about winter and it being cold and the snow and the ice?
What gets us excited is Christmas.
We look forward.
It's the most wonderful time of the year.
We're looking forward to winter.
Why?
Because we want to be cold and uncomfortable.
No, we're looking forward to Christmas because of Jesus Christ.
And the Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis depict this state that parallels our own lives.
It parallels our lives in all of human history from Adam and Eve until our time, but also annually in this cycle that we go through every year.
And we see that the coming of first Father Christmas, Saint Nicholas, and then Aslan, who is the Jesus Christ figure, that begins to thaw the winter.
And the warmth of God's love and his mercy begins to bring about life in the world.
And that's what's so beautiful about C.S. Lewis' Narnia series, but it's also beautiful about God's plan for us in time, that we live this throughout time and then we live this annually through the liturgical calendar.
And Dr. Marshall, the piece of this that I wanted to also bring up is that before Charlie died, and before he was murdered, there was this story and Megan Kelly's talked about this and how Erica was very upset about it about these witches who were casting curses, were trying to curse Charlie.
And It strikes me that the villain in C.S. Lewis's book, who sort of becomes the villain throughout the series, is in fact a witch.
Yeah, I mean, witches are always associated with androgyny, morphing of, you know, sexuality, male, female, female, male.
It's always in the occult literature in every century going back to the Gnostics, even going back to the Old Testament and the pagan fertility, so-called gods and goddesses.
And yeah, I think this was revealed in a woman's magazine called Jezebel, which of course is demonic in itself, just the name Jezebel, that these witches were hired to cast these spells on Charlie.
And Charlie and Erica found out about this.
And I don't know if I have all my facts straight.
You might need to fill in for me, Jack, but apparently a Catholic priest came over that knew Erica and prayed deliverance prayers over Charlie.
I believe it was the day or within days before the assassination.
And I think this reveals to us that, you know, everyone's caught up in the conspiracy or what really happened with Charlie Kirk.
And, you know, as time goes on, hopefully we'll learn more as the trial begins.
But what we need to realize, and we see this in Narnia, is the connection between evil is not always physical and tangible and in a series of events.
The satanic, the occult, the preternatural, they communicate through what we might call magical means or preternatural means.
And so witches, even in this life, can cast curses and call on evil, which can animate and inspire other evil people to come in and do ferocious evil deeds.
That's a reality.
I mean, witches are never good.
In the Old Testament, in the New Testament, witchcraft is always a mortal sin.
It's always evil because you are tapping into this level of, it is a form of reality.
It's an evil reality by which there's coordination in the spiritual realm to work evil.
So sometimes we think of everything as just in the material realm.
But, you know, St. Paul says, ultimately, our enemies are not flesh and blood.
They are the enemies that are the spiritual darkness and principalities and dominions.
And so I think that was certainly at play in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And we definitely see this in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, because the witch, she's trying to entrap the children.
She has the Turkish delight.
She has tumblen originally as one of her agents.
And she's using a spell to keep winter upon the earth.
And who's the only one who can break the spells of the witch?
Aslam, who is Jesus Christ allegorically.
So yeah, there's all these parallels that are that are there.
And I think, you know, giving a reread or a new read to the Chronicles of Narnia, this is a great moment to do that.
So the way you're explaining it, it almost sounds like this, that, you know, there are conspiracies and that we should look at not just, and obviously physical and corporeal conspiracies of people and men, but also and men attempting to become women and all this other stuff, homosexuals in this case with Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs.
But what you're talking about are also spiritual conspiracies.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, let's just pause for a moment and say, if there are such thing as demons, demons are fallen angels.
They once were good.
They were angels in heaven.
We read in the 12th chapter of the apocalypse in the New Testament that a third of them fell with Lucifer.
Lucifer becomes Satan.
All those angels that were once good, a third of them become demons.
They're real.
If you read the New Testament, there are demons possessing people.
There are Jesus is casting out demons.
Demons have a real influence on human life.
All right.
So if you are a believer of the Bible in the New Testament, you believe that there are demons around us and there are angels around us.
And this is part of the spiritual warfare, right?
This is why we have prayers and devotion and go to church and fast and all of these things.
So if that's the case, really, when it comes to those who are evil in this world, right?
There's bad people who do sins and then there are evil people who are trying to corrupt other people and corrupt the world and destroy lives.
These truly evil people, the masters of those puppets are the demons.
And this is why St. Paul says ultimately we have to love all our enemies, but ultimately our enemies are not flesh and blood people.
It's these personalities beyond the flesh and blood, the demonic that are able to coordinate attacks.
We see that in the Lion the Witch in the Wardrobe, the witch and all of her minions.
And then in our reality, we have Satan and all of his minions who are coordinating damnation, destruction, death in this world.
The only way to resist it is by the name of Jesus Christ and by being united with his angels, his saints, his gospels.
That's what breaks it.
And that's why it's encouraging, I think, when the Kirks found out that there was this demonic attack on them, they did seek a spiritual remedy, which is what we all have to do.
And that's so key to what C.S. Lewis was writing about.
And, you know, he's got, he's got other books.
Of course, you know, I love Mere Christianity.
I think Screwtape Letters might be one of the greatest writings, you know, just entry-level writings on hell and the demonic and how to understand that, you know, the real demons that are coming after you, they, they don't necessarily look like demons.
They don't, they don't have the, you know, the horns and the, the, the, the tail with a, you know, the, you know, heart on it or whatever, and, and hooves that they might look like normal people.
They might look friendly, but they, they just whisper sweet lies into your ear and move you along and move you away from Christ, separate you from Christ.
They say, hey, have some, have some Turkish delights, have, you know, have this, have that.
And that's exactly what the witch in the book and the film, Lion, the Witch and Wardrobe does is she's offering Edmund dominion.
She offers him dominion over Narnia, dominion over his brother and sisters, dominion over his family, offers him great power.
And so this, and this, of course, lines up with the Satan's temptation of Christ himself, where, you know, join me and I will give you dominion over this entire, entire world.
I'll give you everything.
I'll give you riches.
And Christ denies him.
But it's not that, you know, the devil is going to come up and say, you know, join me and be evil.
It's like, no, no.
You are tempted with things that you want.
And that's what makes it so incredibly powerful.
back after this break.
Jack Posobiec, Dr. Taylor Marshall, Human Events Daily, the Narnia Christmas special.
Behold the great life.
All right, Jack Pesobic, we're back live here on the Human Events Narnia Christmas special.
We're on with Dr. Taylor Marshall and Dr. Taylor.
I got to tell you, the next part that I wanted to talk about is the first sign that the kids receive in the book, the film, the play for Museum of the Bible or watching it.
The play is absolutely phenomenal.
Highly recommend.
It's the arrival of Father Christmas, because this is what they say throughout all the years prior to his arrival.
It's always winter, never Christmas, always winter, never Christmas.
And so, Father Christmas himself, the Santa Claus, the OG, Saint Nick, shows up and he provides gifts to the children.
Although, interestingly, only three of the four children, only the good children, the obedient children, not Edmund, because Edmund at this point is still in a state of sin.
He's not in a state of grace, the way that we are called to receive gifts from our Lord in his presence, if you will.
So, and that's an interesting English homonym there: presents and presents on Christmas.
So, Dr. Tale Marshall, what does what does this scene symbolize?
The connection between Santa Claus, or as he's called in England, Father Christmas and the giving of gifts of the children.
And by the way, these gifts are not, you know, they're not toys.
They are weapons.
They are potions of healing, a horn to call for help.
These are very serious gifts.
Well, in order to understand the symbolism here, we have to go back to the early church, like the Catholic church, medieval.
C.S. Lewis was Anglican Church of England.
So he's tapped into this symbolism.
Who is Saint Nicholas?
So, Nicholas was a bishop, a pastor in the early 300s.
He was persecuted for his Christian faith under the Roman emperors.
And he's famous for a story that makes him the patron saint of children.
And I actually did a retelling of this.
If you like C.S. Lewis or you like J.R. Tolkien, I wrote a book called Nicolaus, and it's a fictional retelling of the story of Saint Nicholas that made him famous.
And the story goes like this: There was a man who had lost his wife and he had three daughters, and they were very poor.
They had lost everything.
And in those days, this might sound pretty strange and radical, but if you didn't have money and you had three daughters and you had no money for dowries or placing your daughters in society, those daughters often fell into prostitution as the only way to survive.
And that's the setup for this story of St. Nicholas.
So Saint Nicholas, who is the Christian bishop, the pastor, he hears about this.
He sneaks into the house and he leaves gold money for one of the sisters to be placed in a marriage.
And then that happens a couple of years later with the second sister.
And then the third year, the father catches Nicholas and Christmas, sneaking into the house, bringing this gift so that his daughters won't be, you know, forced into prostitution.
And Nicholas asks him, you know, don't tell anyone.
He's very humble.
And so from this, I think it's a true story.
It's well attested in the early church.
From this story about the bishop and pastor Nicholas, he becomes the patron of children.
He becomes a gift giver.
He's sneaking into houses to leave gifts to be a benefactor.
He wants to be anonymous.
It happens at night.
So all of these, I think, true traditions about Nicholas get warped into through the middle times and then all the way to our time into Nicholas as the bringer of gifts.
He sneaks into your house at night.
He's a patron of children.
He loves children and he gives gifts to bless them.
Now, C.S. Lewis also takes another tradition, and that is the feast day of Saint Nicholas in the Catholic Church and in the Anglican church, which C.S. Lewis belonged to, is always on December 6th.
And Christmas is on December 25th.
And this is another thing that associates Nicholas with Christmas.
And as you can see, December 6th is, you know, about 19 days before Christmas.
So whenever St. Nicholas Day comes on December 6th, all the children, in fact, in a lot of countries, gifts are given on December 6th.
They're placed in their stockings or in their shoes.
And all the children know that when St. Nicholas Day comes on December 6th, we're getting closer to December 25th for Christmas.
And that's exactly why C.S. Lewis sets all this up.
in the Chronicle of Narnia.
If you're not familiar with these traditions and these timings, it might seem kind of arbitrary.
But first, you have Father Christmas, who is Nicolaus, St. Nicholas.
And he is sort of the forerunner to the appearance of Aslan, who is Jesus Christ.
So C.S. Lewis is tapping into this early church medieval chronology that St. Nicholas always appears shortly before the advent of Jesus Christ.
Does that make sense?
It completely makes sense.
A forerunner, if you will, in similar way to how John the Baptist was a forerunner to Christ in his teaching later on in life, he begins his ministry several, I believe several years before Jesus began his.
So you see these comings and these callings.
It also kind of reminds me in a way that in an interesting way that Father Christmas's appearance in the book here and St. Nicholas' appearance kind of kind of reflects the way the position of the three wise men, the three kings, the bearers of gifts, and how they are separate from Christ and yet how they also acknowledge Christ and, you know, and tradition holds, they were the, was it the kings of Ethiopia, Arabia,
and Tarsus, and that they were following the star, that they come and they've read, they've read the auguries, they've read the astronomy, they understand that, you know, a great king is to be born to among which all will give him homage.
And so it's, it's very interesting to me that here we have, again, you know, these great figures, and this is something you see throughout the Bible, great figures pointing to an even greater figure.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And that's another kind of thing Anglican or Catholic.
Advent is the season of preparing for the coming of Christ.
So, you know, a lot of times nowadays it turns Thanksgiving and there's Christmas decorations and it's Christmas, Christmas, Christmas.
But traditionally, you know, for hundreds of years, it's been Advent, which is about four weeks before Christmas.
And that's a time of more like preparation and penance and reflection.
And then as you get to Christmas Eve, you have Midnight Mass and then you have the 12 days of Christmas, which are from December 25th until January 5th, which is 12th night.
And then you have Epiphany with the wise men.
So there's this whole timing there.
And C.S. Lewis, and I think the original audience was more tapped in to these chronologies and all this.
So yeah, like when you talk about John the Baptist, that's a major part of the readings.
You know, if you're Catholic, you could go to Mass during Advent.
The idea of John the Baptist preparing the way for Christ part of the readings.
And that's why I'm thinking of it.
Dr. Marshall, right back.
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narnia christmas special all right jack posovic we are back
Human events daily, the Narnia Christmas special.
We're all with Dr. Taylor Marshall.
So we're talking about Narnia in the sense of the fact that number one, Lion, the Witch in the Wardrobe being a fantastic Christmas movie, as well as a book, a story that you'd be able to share with your children, depending on the age.
And if you have time, read the book, you know, read the book over Christmas break.
It's not that long.
It's like maybe just over 100 pages.
It's really easy to read.
It's a fun story.
You can do the voices with the kids.
That's what I love to do.
But the part of the story that I want to get into and really dig in with Dr. Marshall here is that is Edmund.
And the fact that Edmund, not only is he tempted by the witch, he succumbs to that temptation.
He takes the Turkish delights from her and then he begins to provide her with information.
He tells her about his brother and sisters, and then he even gives up their secret location as they're on the run to the witch.
He does betray them.
This is why in the last segment, we're talking about how Saint Nick did not provide him with a present.
So Dr. Marshall, what does it mean then, this story of Edmund, Edmund the fallen, if you will?
And we know that Ashlan later, and then also Ashland's sacrifice for Edmund, how it ties into Christ, how there is a sin, there is a sin that Edmund as a child has to pay a debt for, and yet it's Ashland who pays the debt.
Well, I mean, as you just said in the beginning there, our greatest threat is not the boogeyman far away in the forest.
The greatest threat to us in our life are those closest to us, our friends.
And if you think of the greatest story ever told, our Lord Jesus Christ, he was betrayed by one of his 12 who had spent every day with them for three years.
They dined together.
They traveled together.
They worked miracles together.
And it was Judas Iscariot that betrayed him.
And so, and you see this throughout the Old Testament.
You see it throughout history.
See it in our own time.
And so C.S. Lewis is tapping in to this reality that the greatest threat against you is someone close to you, someone near, someone that knows your heart, who knows who you are.
And in this case, it's Edmund.
And he betrays his own flesh and blood.
And he does this for power.
He does the, as you said, he gets the Turkish delight.
And he even reveals the location of his own flesh and blood in order to impress the witch.
And he thinks he's going to get power from this.
Now, the only way to be redeemed from this is through a sacrifice.
And Aslan, who represents Jesus Christ, goes on the stone altar, offers himself as propitiation for sin.
And by offering himself as a atonement for payment, he, you know, liberates the world, but he liberates Edmund.
He saves Edmund's soul.
And so, you know, you may think of yourself, well, I'm not a Judas Iscariot.
I go to church.
I love Jesus.
But every time you sin, every time you turn towards the devil and away from God, you are betraying Jesus Christ.
And it's his cross.
It's his atonement, his sacrifice on the cross that redeems us.
And what's cool about the Narnia story is the story doesn't end there, just like our story doesn't end there.
Aslan rises from the dead.
He defeats death.
Death cannot hold him.
And this is really not the end of the story.
This is the beginning of the story because death has now been shown to be weak.
And, you know, we were talking about Charlie Kirk before.
You know, Charlie expressed often his love for Jesus Christ.
And we saw, you know, just the horrors over and over of his assassination on, you know, social media and television.
And we're a reminder that that's not the end of the story.
Christ also was humiliated and died a public, shameful death.
And by that, he liberates those who conform to him in faith and hope and love.
And so that's, that's the message of Christmas.
Yes, you know, winter thaws and Father Christmas comes and Aslan comes, but ultimately we're moving towards Holy Week and Good Friday and the resurrection on Easter and then the sending of the Holy Spirit and the church.
Like that's the full story.
And in a beautiful way, C.S. Lewis is creating this allegory that I think resonates in our souls.
Why?
Because it resonates through time.
It's the real story.
It is the real story.
And there's a reason that these themes of sacrifice and repentance come up time and time again because this and it strikes us something deep, I think, within all of us, you know, and it's amazing because it's something that's still celebrated to even this day thousands of years later.
And we were and public displays of, this is something, this is a reason why people say like, oh, Jack, you know, but why don't you support Lord of the Rings over Narnia?
Why are you always pushing Narnia, et cetera?
I said, because it's a direct display of Christianity and public displays of Christianity, public display and public displays of Christ praising Christ should always be upheld wherever you find them in the cultural space.
And yes, I'm aware that not only was Tolkien a traditional Catholic and that, you know, certainly there is virtue in his stories, but they're not they're not overtly Christian.
There's nothing overtly Christian about those stories.
There's no Christ figure in, there's no God in Lord of the Rings.
What there is is, you know, it's high fantasy.
It's a high fantasy story.
You know, it's a good story, but it's a high fantasy story.
It's not a Christian story.
And Narnia is.
I would push back.
I would say it has, it's Christian.
I would say that.
But where is Narnia's story at all?
You know, honestly, like, I don't understand why everyone wants stories.
I'm not saying that there aren't Christian elements, but there's nothing in the story that's Christian.
Allegorically, there is.
But that's allegory.
That's not the story itself.
I'm talking the actual plot of the story.
But I don't understand why everybody wants to make like Tolkien versus verse Lewis, you know, like they can both be good.
Well, and even, you know, and I'm not saying, and I'm not saying one's not good or the other's not good.
What I'm saying is one is overtly, publicly, obviously taking the gospel and turning it into a story.
The other one is making a new story, making a high fantasy story that has, you know, certainly elements of good versus evil in the same way that Star Wars has good versus evil.
And, you know, you might be able to find, you know, some connections, but they aren't quite as overtly Christian as they are in Narnia.
That's all I'm saying.
Correct.
Agreed.
And certainly this started in their lifetime as well, because they were friends and argued about.
Yeah, they were friends.
And, you know, Tolkien did not care for the Chronicle of Narnia.
He thought it was too on the nose.
He thought it was, it was too one-to-one.
And I think C.S. Lewis was kind of hurt by that, you know?
But what's also interesting about C.S. Lewis, that originally Tolkien didn't intend for his stories to have this public, you know, this big public push, but he would sort of work on them on his own.
And it was sort of like a passion project.
And one of his, one of the only people who ever read his stories, Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, before they were publicly released, was his good friend C.S. Lewis.
And it was in fact C.S. Lewis who encouraged him to continue to write his stories and to publish them.
So, you know, it's sort of one of those, you know, chicken in the egg kind of situations where it just goes around and around.
But what I mean to say is, what I was going to say is this, is that Tanya Tay and I, this Christmas, for the very first time ever, after the New York Republican Gala, where I was the speaker, I took her.
She really wanted to see this, she just wanted to see it.
I never went, went to the Rockettes, the old, Good Old Rockettes, christmas special there in New York, and I didn't realize this and, you know, just chose my like look, i'm not like super into that kind of stuff.
Um, it's fine, it's nothing wrong with it.
But I did not realize and I I, I will even say maya culpa for not realizing this.
They have been doing a public nativity scene, a living nativity, right in the middle of the Christmas spectacular at the At Radio City Music Hall in the heart of New York City for over 90 years.
It was phenomenal.
They were living animals, they were real camels.
They had the, the wise men, and the then entire, you know the, the retainers, and the coterie that would travel with kings, you know, crossing across the stage and then the culmination is this gigantic living nativity scene with the Star Of Bethlehem.
They have Joseph, they have Mary, they have the child swaddled in a manger in front of thousands of people right there in the heart of Rockefeller Center, and I I just stood up and started clapping and I said, and they've never taken that out of the rocket show.
That's one of the only original um, there's a few pieces of it.
The toy soldiers obviously, the kick line and the divity scene are some of the only pieces of the original 1930s rocket show that have never been taken out of the performance and I I hope they never will, because you, we need to hold on to these public over displays of Christianity if we are ever going to win the culture war.
How do we fight the culture war with Christian culture?
It's just that simple, Jack Posobic, dr Taylor Marshall, right back.
the Narnia Christmas special.
All right, folks, Jack Sobek back live.
Final segment here of our Human Events, Narnia christmas special talking, of course, about the Lion, the Witch and The Wardrobe.
It's an incredible christmas story, highly recommend for everyone out at home.
Either watch the movie or read the book if you have the time.
It's a great book and we're all with dr Taylor Marshall, and The last piece that we really have to talk about in all of this is not how, not just how amazing the story is, but also how Netflix is going to be trying to destroy Narnia and woke Netflix, which I've certainly been waging a crusade against all year after what they've done with Stranger Things, adding the LGBTP.
Yes, that's right.
I included the P in Stranger Things and all the rest of it.
It's disgusting.
And of course, they are coming for Narnia now.
So, Dr. Tale Marshall, have you dug into much about how Netflix is talking about, you know, quote unquote, updating and adapting Narnia?
Well, if I recall, they've announced that Aslan's going to be a female.
Do I have that right?
So it's sort of weird.
It's been like leaked to the, it's in all the trade papers, like Hollywood Reporter and Deadline and stuff like that.
Yet no one's ever actually officially confirmed it, but it's heavily reported that Aslan is going to be female.
They're also updating the timeframe.
So it's no longer going to be a World War II film.
Now, keep in mind, they're doing Magician's Nephew first.
So that's the one that's coming out now.
And then presumably that Lightning the Witch in the Wardrobe would be the second one they're doing.
But the biggest, I think, the biggest red flag of all is that they've got the hardcore woke feminist director, Greta Gerwig, who did the Barbie movie, which is just a full-on celebration of abortion from scene one.
It is an attack on men.
It is a gender war movie about how women should.
And by the way, the culmination of the Barbie movie, for anyone who doesn't understand how this stuff works, is that women should be in charge and that men should subjugate themselves to women.
Just on that point, Dr. Taylor Marshall, is that biblical?
Is that what God calls us?
Is that God?
Is that godly instituted marriage?
I have not seen the Barbie film for the record, but there is an order to reality.
We call God Father, our Father who art in heaven.
We do not say our mother.
Jesus Christ is the son of God.
He's not the daughter of God.
Pastors and priests are male because they are in persona Christi.
They're in the person of Christ.
And the reason for this is that the church, the people of God in the Bible, in the Old Testament, in the New Testament, collectively as the church, we are the bride of Christ.
There's a feminine receptive nature to the church because we're receiving the grace and salvation of God.
And so the transcendent is masculine and the recipient is feminine.
And there's a synergy there.
There's a beauty there.
There's a connection there.
You see this in Lewis's writings.
You see this in Tolkien's writing.
All the great authors and poets and playwrights have been able to capture in a literary way, in an allegorical way, this theme that's throughout all of creation.
It's really only paganism and occultism and magic that subverts that so that you have priestesses, you have a mother goddess, etc.
And really modern feminism comes from that occult, magical, Gnostic, evil tradition.
I'm just going to say it, because it's perverting and inverting nature.
And this is why it's also usually in support of abortion and contraception and inverting the roles of masculine and feminine.
And so what we really need in this time is for, you know, I loved what you said on Megan Kelly.
You know, you said, you know, it's time.
I think you said it's time for the men to take care of things.
Is that what you said, Jack?
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I said, Megan, no offense, but it's time for the men to handle things.
There we go.
And a lot of people may feel threatened by that, but when you're moving with increasing speed towards chaos, death, low birth rates, the collapse of civilization, you know, hard times create great men.
And we're shifting into that epic.
And so what we need to be teaching is, is that, you know, I just wrote this book, Christian Patriot.
Why is it patriot?
Patriot is patriotism.
It's love of the fatherland.
Pater.
God is father.
Our nation is the patriot.
It's the fatherland.
And we are called as men to be fathers, benevolent, sacrificial fathers, just like Saint Nicholas, just like our Lord Jesus Christ, all the great saints.
And yes, women do that as well.
But when it comes to leading and headship and sacrifice, men should lead the way.
And so I'm really upset.
I mean, Netflix, the liberal culture is taking everything that is good and holy.
You know, they're doing this Jesus Christ superstar, and they have that woman who's in wicked playing Jesus Christ, that emaciated African-American woman.
God forgot about this.
Yes, she's playing Jesus Christ on stage as a African-American, emaciated woman.
So what they're doing is they're taking all of the Christian tradition that, you know, even in the last 50 years, so much of culture has lost its Christian ethos.
Whatever's left, Chronicles of Narnia, you know, Jesus Christ Superstar, which is actually a blasphemous thing from the beginning, they're taking it and they're just scrubbing it down and they're reinterpreting it in a pagan, evil manifestation.
So I'm 100% against what our family has not had Netflix for years.
I think they're groomers.
I think they're infiltrators.
I think they're bad.
I think if you're watching right now, you should just, as soon as you're done watching this, just go on your Netflix account and cancel it because they are subverting the culture and they're undercutting the presence of Jesus Christ in our midst.
And fathers, you need to rule your household.
You can't have sewage flowing into your living room through what's called a television.
It's time to stop the madness, cut that off.
And hey, instead of watching Netflix, why don't you sit down by the fireplace with the Chronicles of Narnia and read them out loud to your children?
They will never forget it.
It is magical.
This is what we need to do.
Agree, Jack?
I couldn't agree more.
And I just finished reading them all with my oldest son and all seven books, did the voices.
And there are so many, we'll have to do, we'll have to do some other episodes because there's some really, really deep Christian theology that's being imparted in there.
And yes, you get the gospel story, the gospel account in a sense, in, you know, in this sense of the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
But I've always thought, you know, the voyage of the Dawn Treader, where the one that's, it's their cousin, Eustace, and he has to become a dragon, but then because of his sinful nature, and then Ashland is the one who tears the dragon skin off of him.
I mean, it's just, you know, because we can't do it all by ourselves, that we have to accept Christ in order to remove the last vestiges of our sinful nature.
And then even in all the way up to the last battle, where a false God is what many our Narnia are tricked into believing, a false Christ, a false athlete.
Christ.
Something that the Antichrist, it's very clear.
That's all right.
You know, reading that as a kid, I always thought that Tash Lan was a really, you know, really just, you know, really, like a, like a, you know, a very strong villain character.
And then Tash, of course, was terrifying as the actual devil, the Satan.
And, but then reading it as an adult and realizing the references that C.S. Lewis was making, I was thinking like, man, C.S. Lewis is based.
Yeah, he was.
This is some.
This is some really serious stuff that he's introducing kids to.
And to think, man, maybe I've always had that sense my whole life because I read those books when I was a kid and my parents read them to me.
Dr. Taylor Marshall, where can people go to follow you, brother?
You can go to my website, TaylorMarshall.com.
You also have my YouTube channel, Dr. Taylor Marshall Podcast.
And I'd love to see y'all over there.
We talk about these kind of things all the time.
So great to be with you, Jack.
And y'all have a happy Advent and a Merry Christmas.
Happy Advent and Merry Christmas to you, Dr. Taylor Marshall.
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