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Breaking news that we have a new report that's up at thepostmillennial.com.
Brian Enton originally broke this over from NewsNation, but the story goes as thus, that Tyler Robinson, the accused murderer of Charlie Kirk, is now holding virtual visits in prison with their son.
And this is at the Utah County Jail in Utah County, Utah, where Sheriff Sergeant Ray Ormond is over there.
They've said that Tyler Robinson is being held in a special unit.
This is the most restrictive custody level that Utah can provide for him at time pending trial.
And of course, he's been there since almost tomorrow will be three months to the day since Charlie Kirk was murdered.
And Tyler Robinson, of course, has been there and basically for 33 hours on when his parents went to turn him in.
So when you see, it's called the special management unit or SMU.
And typically you would eat whatever the other inmates would eat, cardboard sectioned off tray with plastic utensils.
Of course, you're going to want to watch that for going to put him on suicide watch, something I dealt with when I was at Guantanamo Bay, putting detainees at Suicide Watch, that type of thing.
Self-contained cell, it's usually 6x10 or 8x10.
We're talking 60 to 80 feet, many of which have a sink and a stainless steel toilet that's bolted to a wall, floor is flat with a mattress.
And so folks, what can we glean from this?
What can we glean from the fact that Tyler Robinson's parents are holding virtual visits with him?
Well, it really for me, I would say it puts their silence in a different light because a lot of people have been saying if Tyler Robinson were innocent or if his family believed they were innocent, why then would they not be going public?
Well, we know they're not going public because they're going private and they're speaking to their son privately through these virtual visits.
Brian Etton even said several times a week that they're holding these.
So similar to the way that he was virtually appearing in court, Robinson at his various pretrial pretrial hearings.
I believe there's another one set up for next week on December 16th.
And just from a parent's perspective, you know, I'll always go back to this as imagine watching TV and seeing something as horrific as the murder of Charlie Kirk, a 31-year-old man, young father, husband.
And then they put the pictures up of the suspect.
They say, this is the suspect.
This is the rifle.
And you look at it and we're told that according to the documents, according to the legal filings there by the Utah prosecutors, that it was his mother who first identified him.
Then she went to the father.
They also recognized the grandfather's gun.
And then they reached out to him and said, where are you?
Can you show us grandpa's gun?
I can't even imagine, but I think deep down, many ways, when they're making these virtual visits, they're saying goodbye.
And they're saying goodbye to their son.
I think that's what it is.
And we're going to be digging into more of this.
We also have news, a new report out of the New York Post that Brian Cole Jr., the accused J6 pipe bomber, was in fact obsessed with my little pony.
So great.
We've got my little pony.
We've got furries with Tyler Robinson.
And then we've got Deviant Art with Thomas Crooks.
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Break that down much in the rest of the show.
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Libby just got back on her own free wheeling trip.
Libby, where were you this weekend?
I was in California.
I took off from Joint Base Andrews Friday morning and returned Saturday night.
I had no idea where my car was because it felt like we'd been gone two weeks.
And why?
Why would you do such a thing?
Did you sneak onto this military installation?
No, I did not.
I was invited.
I was part of the new press corps with the Pentagon.
We traveled with the Secretary of War on the doomsday plane out to California to Point Majou.
We were accompanied by a C-17 the entire way, which I thought was pretty fascinating.
We landed.
We watched the Secretary of War shake hands, talk to some people.
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Shut down the 405 freeway in the Los Angeles area.
Went to check out an autonomous AI weapons manufacturer called Andoril, which is run by Palmer Lucky.
It's founded by him.
That was really interesting.
There were some autonomous drones and all kinds of wild weapons that we checked out there.
Then we went over to back in the motorcade.
We went to a company called Hadrian, which is essentially a parts subcontractor that makes parts for all kinds of things, including satellites and lots of stuff that they would not specifically tell us about.
But the Secretary of War did learn all about those things.
He was in meetings with high-level people at those companies, seeing all of the new things that they were working on.
Back in the motorcade and back to Point Majieu on the C-17.
It was a wild ride.
And then we witnessed the Secretary of War's basically a preview of the national security posture when he gave a speech at the Reagan Defense Forum at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California.
And then we took off and landed back home.
Now, did you take a slightly different plane on your way back?
No, we took the same plane.
Oh, okay.
I thought I saw some photos of you at the doomsday plane there.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's the plane we took out there.
And then we took it back.
And then while we were in California, we rode around on a C-17.
Oh, I see, I see.
I thought the C-17 was for the cross-country trips.
Got you.
So what is the doomsday plane?
What does that mean?
This is the plane that would fly around in the air in the event that something terrible happens and it just stays up there the whole time.
They gave us breakfast on it.
And that's pretty much everything I know about the doomsday plane.
It was a lot more comfortable, I got to say, than flying commercial.
It was very interesting to see everyone do their jobs filled with computer tech and phones and all kinds of things.
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He answered a bunch of our questions in the new press corps.
We all had a lot of really interesting questions and it was great to have that opportunity to get some additional insight that we definitely would not be getting just watching these conferences on TV.
Well, yeah, that flight by the plane, by the way, it's actually designed to withstand a nuclear blast and as well as EMP pulses, as well as thermal effects.
So you're very safe while you're on that plane, safe from a variety of outcomes.
So incredible that you got to be there.
And by the way, an incredible opportunity for human events and the post-millennial being out there, being part of the press pool.
But, you know, Libby, I was told that, you know, we weren't asking serious questions, that we weren't going to do serious reporting.
That's what the Washington Post is telling me.
Sounds like you did actually ask serious questions.
Oh, we sure did.
And I think the Washington Post is just feeling a little salty because as we learned from other people, the press secretary, the War Secretary has not been giving this kind of access to the Press Corps so far this year.
So really, we really got to get a close look at what's going on.
We got to pick his brain a little bit, really get some details about what he was thinking, of course, off the record.
So I can't tell you what that was all about, but it certainly will inform our reporting, both at Human Events and the Postmillennial going forward.
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And I'm sorry that the Washington Post and the New York Times felt that they could not report under these new conditions, but I found them perfectly fine.
Honestly, it was not a big deal.
We're not going to report leaked documents.
We're not going to report on classified information.
And I think that those.
Well, I would say this.
I would say this.
If now they said do not solicit, right?
But if someone comes to us with a leaked document, as has happened many times in the past, we will report.
I'm asking my editor right now.
Oh, well, sure, Jack.
I mean, you know, I'm not going to get in the way of anybody's reporting.
I think that's really important.
And we have published things like that before.
And you have a lot more experience in the entire concept of the War Department than I do with your military experience and your years of experience doing this.
So I'm very glad to be working with you on this.
And I was really interested.
This was definitely my first time.
Oh, no, I was just going to say my just to follow up on that, my rubric for this has always been that if something is leaked to us, the only thing that I would want to take pause on, and you and I always talk about this whenever we get a leaked document, we can kind of peel back the curtain a little bit.
And we have to, because we have to make sure our source stays safe, no matter what it is.
Typically in the Biden administration, this is when it was coming out because we would have to report things that the Biden regime did not want out.
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Does that make sense to you?
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And I think that under previous administrations, that has, of course, always been the standard.
And so I'm not really sure what everyone was so angry about because why would anyone want to put American troops in harm's way?
That would be a disaster.
That would be seriously un-American activity to go about doing something like that.
Well, the press corps certainly is sometimes synonymous with un-American activity.
Libby, I know we only have you for one segment.
I've got to get you in the last couple of minutes here.
This bombshell, Postmillennial has it up.
Brian Etton broke the story.
Tyler Robinson's parents holding virtual visits with him after turning him in.
Just in the last couple of minutes, give me your dropdown on that.
You know, having to call your son in that type of situation.
Yeah, I have the utmost sympathy for Robinson's parents.
I think this is a seriously tragic situation.
And whatever drew him to do this horrific act, if it turns out that he, in fact, is the, you know, culprit, I want to say that suspect, you know, has not yet been convicted.
But if it turns out that he really is this guy and his parents have turned him in, as we saw, as the sheriff reported, you know, after Robinson was apprehended, and here they are talking to their son, this is, this has just got to be a horrific situation for his parents to know, to believe that their son was capable of something like this, that he carried it out.
And now that he is going to be facing the death penalty, should he be convicted in a court of law in Utah.
And I was very, I was struck by what you said in your opening monologue when you were saying that they're saying goodbye to their son.
And I think any parent can tell you that for the first, you know, 18 years of their life, but basically our job is to keep them alive and keep them on track.
And then after that, you spend a lot of time just feeling like one of your limbs is floating off somewhere and you don't have any control over it.
And so I really, my prayers are with this family and I have sympathy for their mom and dad here.
But if what they're doing is going there and speaking to their son privately, they're not going public about it, then there's a very good indication that they don't believe that he is innocent.
If your son is innocent, you're going to go scream it from the rooftops.
You're going to make sure everybody knows that an injustice is being done.
But if they're talking to him privately, that does indicate a different kind of scenario that they've got going on in their family.
Well, I'm also, you know, given what we know about the family, conservative family, Christian family, I imagine they're, I have to imagine they're talking about redemption.
I have to imagine they're talking about seeking forgiveness, these types of things, probably urging him to come out and release some kind of statement for Charlie's wife and kids.
But, you know, at the end of the day, it's as simple as this.
Tyler Robinson is talking to his family virtually this Christmas.
Charlie Kirk will not be talking to his.
Libby Emmons, where can people follow you?
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons and of course at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com.
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He's the president of the American Principles Project because Terry, you know, look, man, I'm not usually the guy to sit there and be like, you know, the old 90s church moms and say, oh, we need censorship.
We need censorship.
But I'm telling you, this, this Stranger Things thing, the Netflix and then Netflix going to purchase the Warner Brothers.
This thing's blowing up.
It's all over the place.
Front page of Drudge Report.
Washington Post is hitting me up.
Donald Trump has weighed in at this point regarding all of this.
But it comes back to, look, I'm just going to say it comes back to Stranger Things introduced a scene in a show that is designed and meant for children that depicts, to my mind, a grotesque sexual act with a child.
So Terry, I know that American Principles Project focuses on this type of stuff.
Let me just say, from your organization's perspective, how do you view this scene?
And if you agree with me, what should be the next steps?
Well, thanks so much for having me, Jack.
Look, I think this is all very, very concerning.
Look, Hollywood is run by very sick people, very sick people, and they all have serious, serious issues.
And we need to be aware of that, that they have an agenda for our children, for our families.
They want to influence them.
I have not seen the scene that you've been talking about on Netflix, although I don't need to, right?
From how you've described it, I think you're spot on.
And by the way, I want to thank you for explaining the reason why they included the facehuggers, right?
In Alien.
I always thought that was very odd and I didn't see through what they were actually trying to get to.
It was just all the reason back then, because remember, the facehuggers, the facehuggers, that movie came out just a couple of years after the Roe v. Wade ruling.
So that was 76.
And I think Alien came out in 79.
So it was all about abortion.
It was about rape.
It was about trying to teach men what it would feel like to be raped and then impregnated by an alien because that's how they view babies.
Right.
No, you know, Betty Ferdinand, one of the second wave feminists referred to the family as a cozy concentration camp, right?
Or the domestic.
Excuse me, where people 73.
So, oh, yes.
These are sick people and they all came about from the sexual revolution.
And it's terrible.
And we're in a new period now.
It's like a sexualization of children revolution where they're just doing this.
There's a Daily Wire article that I read prior to the show coming on where they accounted.
There's a report that came out that showed that 41% of Netflix shows for children rated Y7 and G have LGBTQ themes.
Why is that?
Like, what is it?
Like, I have, I have, I have my eighth child on the way.
I have seven children right now with my wife, Katie.
And my kids never talk about this stuff.
They have no interest in this stuff.
They have to program it into these shows.
So I'm very concerned about the Warner Brothers merger with Netflix.
I think it's terrible.
I'm with President Trump right now.
I have a lot of questions, especially about their market share.
You know, it's important to know and remember that Warner Brothers owns and controls Looney Tunes.
And frankly, Jack, Bugs Bunny is like the only cartoon character at this point that hasn't tried to trans my kids.
And so if Netflix takes it over, do we have any assurance that they're not going to push these themes?
Exactly.
So let me walk back a second because so one of the things that's been come up is a lot of people have talked about the fact that you have been working so hard on a state-by-state basis, your organization to introduce legislation for age verification for pornography sites.
Now, obviously, we're not saying necessarily that what Netflix is doing is pornography, and yet it's in that gray area where it's sexual content.
What could be done, perhaps on a state-by-state basis, to help parents to protect kids from this kind of stuff?
Well, if we got like an opportunity for a history lesson here.
So when APP first got into trying to protect children from porn online, one of the things that came up was the movie rating system and the origination of that.
So essentially what happened was Hollywood in like the 1920s started producing somewhat raunchy films for the times.
They were definitely being talked about as being obscene.
And Congress got involved.
Congress said, all right, we're going to start to regulate the film industry.
Well, what the film industry did and what Hollywood did was they came up with the MPAA, the Motion Picture Association of America, and that was going to rate all movies.
It was going to set strict guidelines.
And so I think what we should do here is Congress should start to get involved.
And what you'll see happen is Netflix does not want to be regulated by laws from Congress and they will start to actually be good players.
Right now, Netflix is taking advantage of the libertarians in Congress, both in the Democratic and the Republican Party, and then also the sexual left in the Democratic Party that wants to push this stuff on kids.
So if Congress got serious and you had legislation or President Trump started threatening to take legal action against Netflix for pushing these obviously obscene things, and look, what you have described in the Netflix opening episode for season five is absolutely qualifies as obscenity, right?
This is disgusting.
It would be offensive to my grandmother, to my mother, to my sisters.
It's absolutely terrible.
But I think once government starts really threatening action and taking it seriously, then you'll start to see Netflix possibly clean things up.
But if they don't, then you follow through the legislation.
Right.
And one of the things that they could throw in there, by the way, perhaps is just so you know, remember we used to have those warnings for racism and warnings for, you know, oh, there's outmoded beliefs and gone with the wind.
Well, why not?
Why not demand in certain states?
We could even potentially, I back legislation for this.
Hey, there's LGBT themes in this children's show.
And I would put that on Netflix.
I would put that on every single network that is calling for it.
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Mary Margaret, how are you?
I'm great.
Great to be here.
So ton of topics today, but we're really digging in on Netflix, on Stranger Things, even the broader idea of these LGBT and sexual themes that have been injected that Netflix seems to inject in almost all.
I believe Daily Wire had the report 41% of all Netflix kids' shows now have some form of LGBT content.
And so piggybacking on that and seeing how Netflix is injecting all of this in kids' content the same way that the villain on Stranger Things was injecting that little boy down his throat with his own demon seed or whatever that was.
Again, I'm just saying what was on the show.
That's what it depicted while he was strapped down and he was stroking his face, which certainly seems like a grooming sexual scene to me.
I'm going to just come out and say it.
I would back legislation stating that in state by state, that these networks have to show all shows, all networks, all Netflix series, streaming series, whatever it is, Disney Plus.
If this show has LGBT content in it, then they should be required to post a warning the same way that they were all posting those racism warnings with Gone with the Wind and all those other movies.
Mary Margaret, what's your sense on what's happening at Netflix?
Well, first of all, I'd just like to say that my mother is so vindicated.
She's been telling me my entire life that Netflix, that Disney, that all of these groups were infiltrating our content with ideology.
And when I was a kid, I was like, she's crazy.
There's no way.
And then I started reporting and I was blown away by the massive amount of ideology in shows, in everything, even when you boil it down to simple things like the way Disney portrays fathers, for example.
It's everywhere.
But when it comes to gender ideology, I completely agree with you, Jack.
I think there absolutely should be warnings.
If a show is secretly trying to indoctrinate your children, A, they should be honest about it.
They're very honest about it behind the scenes.
And they talk about how they want to be encouraging your kids to be viewing explicit content, learning to be more accepting of gender ideology, anything as explicit as what we've seen in these books in schools, et cetera.
So I would absolutely support something like that.
And I think, you know, it would really also help these activists, would help Netflix to understand that this is not something that is accepted by the rest of the country.
These people get in their bubbles and they think that it's all right to push this kind of thing because in their circles, it's widely accepted as good and true and correct.
But the majority of Americans don't support these types of radical content.
They don't support men and women sports.
They don't support transitioning children.
And they don't want crazy sexual content pushed on their kids in schools or on Netflix that they think that they're trusting that their child is watching some innocent show.
So I think it would be a great lesson for Netflix.
It would help them have a little comprehension of the world at large.
And I think it's a fun idea.
No, I think it's exactly right.
Terry, now you've done this with Pornhub.
Do you think this is something that APP, I'm not putting you on the spot, but just in a general sense, do you think this is something that you would find state legislatures that would be interested in?
Absolutely.
No, what we have found actually is that, first of all, APP would love to have this happen.
And I got to talk to my team before we start working towards it.
But this is absolutely right in our wheelhouse.
But Jack, what we've found is that these state legislators, they are so much more willing to take on these issues initially.
And what we've done at APP is we've worked in the states to get critical mass, pass it.
We've, you know, on the women's sports bill, we're up to 27 states that are protecting girls' sports.
And there's 27 states that have age.
I'm sorry, 24 states have age verification for adult content online.
So this is exactly the type of thing that we could get going here in the states.
I do find it very interesting, though, Jack, that, you know, these shows, they're not just geared towards indoctrinating children.
They're also virtue signaling to like these adults, right?
These adults that want to push this on kids.
And it's the awful, the affluent white female liberal women that are in this country that want to push this stuff on kids, that believe that pushing this ideology on children is actually how we make a brighter future.
We all know that this is actually how you make a terrible future for our country.
Wait, wait, actually, I just learned of a new term right before we got on the program today.
So because you bring up the awfuls, I've got to bring this up as well.
And so this is a corollary to the hicclibs, which was a term that I helped popularize and a lot of people brought up.
But this one, it's really, really interesting.
And it refers to a specific, it's similar to the hicclib in some ways because it refers to a specific type of liberal who comes to typically from the Midwest, but also has a religious fervor to their activism.
And also, this is key.
This is key, by the way, also ties to connect it to belief in God and in some cases, even belief to Jesus.
Here it is.
You guys are going to love it.
Ex-vangelicals.
So ex-vangelicals are evangelicals that have moved away, moved on.
They're post-Bible evangelicals who now believe that wokeness and LGBT ideology and, you know, anti-racist baby, anti-racist ideology is actually the true way to serve God.
So they're actually ex-vangelicals, not evangelicals.
I didn't come up with that myself.
Someone sent it to me, but that is amazing.
And it's very similar to the hicclib, right?
So you take people who come from evangelical areas.
They have that fervor.
They have that belief in wanting to prostulatize, want to build new things.
And those are the same types of people, by the way, that you see those signs.
Remember, in this house, we believe.
So they are ex-vangelicals.
They take evangelical energy and apply it towards belief in progressivism.
I love it.
We're sticking with it.
Mary Margaret, have you ever met any ex-vangelicals?
Now that you mention it, I might have.
I mean, it's hitting a very familiar note with me.
I also like this hicclibs thing.
I haven't heard that before.
Oh, so a hicclib.
Okay.
So a hicclib, all right, this is someone, like, have you seen the show Yellowstone?
Like, so Kevin Costner's character on that is a typical hiclib where, and actually we bullied him so much with that that he left the show.
So the hicclib is someone who has the aesthetics of like a country boy.
Like I'm a good old boy.
I got, I'm on the ranch.
I'm on Yellowstone, but then sits there and says like, you know something?
If two trannies love each other, well, who am I to say otherwise?
Or racism has no place on this ranch and on and on and on.
So it's like they don't, and you meet these people.
Will Stantil's a great example.
So you meet these people throughout the Midwest and it's like they hate the people that they grew up around because those are typically, you know, like your country conservatives who are just like normal people living out there.
That is the hip web.
Jack, that reminds me of, you know, there's a new Netflix show.
I don't know if you've seen it, but it's called Queen of Coal.
And it's been tweeting about it all morning.
I woke up at 4 a.m. and it was the first thing I tweeted about.
Like the coal miners are so woke that they accept the trans identification of this guy that wants, that's always wanted to be a coal miner, but they just won't accept that women want to go into the coal mines.
It's totally crazy.
I thought it was fake when I first read about it, but no, I knew as well because real quick, I thought it was a meme because I saw it and then I looked, went and looked up and said, no, it's real.
So it's like Americans are saying, we'd like to see a movie about the working class.
Netflix, what if coal miners were trans and gay?
Terry Schilling, give us your sign off because I know you've got to run.
And of course, we'll all be seeing each other tonight at your incredible gala.
Well, thank you so much, Jack.
And God bless you guys.
Yeah, hope to see you soon.
But yeah, we got to protect our kids.
It's obvious.
We have so much important work to do.
And Netflix is at the forefront of attacking them.
So we got to make sure that we protect our kids.
And where can we go get more info on APP?
Sorry, Schilling1776 across all platforms or AmericanPrinciplesProject.org.
Oh, boy.
All right.
All right, Terry.
Terry started a little early for the gala tonight, folks, I think maybe, but that's okay.
That's okay.
It's just Christmas cheer going around.
Christmas cheer going around.
Mary Margaret.
Did you see that, by the way, the queen of coal?
I will, I have not seen it and I don't plan to, but I did see advertising for it.
And I was kind of amazed, Jack, because if you think about, you know, people joke about how the next Hallmark movie that comes from Netflix, it's going to be some kind of woke combination of all these stereotypes.
And then they don't even do it with Hallmark.
They just do it with a regular show where all of a sudden it's all these trans people.
No, no, we got to, we have to actually protect Hallmark.
Great American Classics is another good example of that as well.
All right, folks.
We'll be right back with more.
Mary Margaret Olihan.
We're talking Netflix, Queens of Coal, trans miners.
It's a wonderful thing.
He's a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn him around and make her effectively get to him.
Amen.
All right, Jack Pesobic, here we are live human events daily.
We're on with Mary Margaret Olihan, the White House correspondent for Real Daily Wire, but she's also the author of D-Trans, a deep discussion and look into the transgender movement and people moving out of the transgender movement.
And Mary Margaret, one of the reasons that I wanted to bring you on today was because we just saw this new breaking story out of the New York Post regarding the accused Gen 6 pipe bomber Brian Cole Jr., where it turns out that he has a secret online life obsessing over My Little Pony.
And this is from Jacqueline Sweet over there.
So he's accused of attempting to blow up the RNC and the DNC, active My Little Pony fan, seemingly obsessed with toys marketed, as we know, young girls.
And he wrote fan fiction about them.
He created art about them.
He even wrote songs about My Little Pony.
And he also had ties in with Star Wars and many other things.
And so what's interesting to me is that he has this tie between My Little Pony and Star Wars.
And then you also saw Tyler Robinson, the guy who's accused of killing Charlie Kirk, was a furry, was obsessed with furry culture.
Thomas Matthew Crooks, the man who took a shot at President Trump, kills Corey Compatore up in Butler, Pennsylvania, also had an account on DeviantArt, which is a similar website.
What is going on here?
Yeah, it's a conversation that's very important to have, Jack, because I mean, I'm thinking even beyond those examples, you know, the shooter at Annunciation Catholic Church, which took place only a month before Charlie's death, the Covenant school shooter in Nashville, Tennessee.
Yeah, it was very shortly before.
Both of those killers as well were, they identified as transgender and they had all kinds of rantings and writings about their gender identity and their fixation on these concepts.
But particularly when it comes to these killers nowadays or these attempted killers, there's this disturbing pattern of an interest in whatever, like, I don't even know the right word to call it, childlike interests, but also in things that are bordering on sexual.
So if you look at what the New York Post reported about these My Little Pony obsessions of his, there's one very graphic, violent description of how someone dies and their flesh peeling off of them.
And it's not inherently sexual to read it, but you read it and you're just disturbed.
There's a very disturbing element to it, particularly because he's writing about My Little Pony, which is a children's toy, specifically for little girls.
There's a show about it.
It's very childlike.
It's very, I don't even know if you could say like infantile.
And it's just, it's disturbing at the end of the day.
Same can be said of the furry obsession.
What I would tie that to is not only is what is Tyler Robinson, we know that he was in a homosexual relationship with Lance Twiggs, that Lance Twiggs was transitioning black market HRT, according to a whistleblower on that.
But we know that, and this is where, and I know it's uncomfortable for people, but to understand these subcultures, you is to understand where this insanity comes from, where these obsessions come from, where this radical, it's really radicalization that comes from.
In the same way that when we studied ISIS and when I was at Gitmo learning about radical Islam, I studied radical Islam.
Charlie Kirk was shot with a bullet that had written on it, ooh, notices bulge.
What's this?
That's the bullet that was fired and that was on the shell casing.
And if you don't know about trans culture, if you don't know about furry culture and specifically that phrase using someone who's attracted to a trans, a trans man, then you may not have known that.
But there are people who saw that bullet casing and said that's exactly who you would find as the killer.
And this is something that, quite frankly, it seems like the FBI just isn't quite prepared to actually dig into yet, is it?
No, and I mean, I think one of the other bullets, correct me if I'm mixing things up, there was another bullet that had Bella Chow on it, which is the slogan that is often used by Antifa.
So there's all kinds of different fact patterns here.
But you're so right, Jack.
And I know you and I have talked about this before.
And Terry Schilling, who is on a minute ago, also is an expert in this.
When you look into transgender ideology, if you're not looking at what these individuals were looking at that caused them to go down this slippery slope, you're not understanding the full extent of the problem.
Many of these people start out normal, nice.
Their families describe them as hardworking, studious, kind, and they become radicalized on the internet almost 100% of the time.
It's this slippery slope of content and they're consuming.
You know, for these kids who are trying to transition, some of them start in pro-anorexia circles and then they stumble upon transgender content there.
And then when they're looking at this transgender content, they're being encouraged to believe that they're born in the wrong body.
But for some of these killers, when they're going around in these transgender circles online, they're being told that the people who don't agree with transitioning hate them and want them dead.
They're being told that people like you and me would hurt them and kill them if we had the chance.
They're being told that they need to eradicate people like Charlie Kirk because he doesn't want them to exist.
And that's the kind of radicalization that is happening online that many people are just turning a blind eye to, saying that, no, you know, these are communities that are loving and accepting people, but that's just not true.
In fact, many of these transgender communities online are incredibly disturbing, very perverted.
They're full of pedophiles who are seeking to groom children.
They're encouraging kids to identify as another gender in hopes of helping them to become part of their own sexual fantasies.
And, you know, it sounds alarmist what I'm saying, but we know it to be true by the examples and testimonies of many people who I have interviewed myself.
I have talked to many young people who were pushed down this path, who experienced these things, and they will tell you that the violence that is pushed on them in these circles is disturbing and very real.
They're encouraged to think violently about people who disagree with transgenderism.
In fact, the last conversation that Charlie Kirk was having when he was killed was about transgenderism and whether people who identify as trans should own guns.
That was literally the conversation he was having.
And so a lot of this, you know, we're often pushed into a corner and made to think about these horrible crimes in a more black and white way than we should.
There needs to be absolute examinations into the ideology of the people who are pushing, who are committing these crimes, who are targeting people like Charlie.
I couldn't agree more.
And I would just add that, you know, to tie back to the theme of the show, some of them start on Netflix.
Some of them start just watching a regular Netflix show.
And it's all of these reflections and it's all of these signals that they see in the culture.
And they say, oh, well, that's an interesting character.
I want to learn more about that character.
So they go to Reddit to learn more about the character.
And suddenly they're presented with other fans of that character.
And suddenly they start identifying that way with fans of the character.
I mean, you know what?
I'm just going to say it.
And, you know, I'm not going to make you co-sign this, but I'm just going to say it straight up that the My Little Pony fandom is pedophile coded and it has been pedophile coded for a very long time.
It's clearly what's going on here.
I don't know when this happened.
I don't know why the show hasn't like come out against this.
I don't know if they play into it, but it's sick.
It's disgusting.
And I would add, I'm just going to add this, the Star Wars fan community is getting the exact same way.
It's getting the exact same way.
That's why Star Wars is banned in my house.
That's why I've never let my kids watch Star Wars.
We don't have any of the branded stuff in the house.
We just don't do it.
We don't do it whatsoever because this stuff is sick.
It's disgusting.
And we have no idea what is now happening to our kids.
And you start, and gosh, you know, maybe it starts with stranger things.
Mary Margaret, tell us again this Christmas, by the way, for folks who are interested in getting your book, which delves into these internet-based subcultures and internet-based identities, the sexualization.
What is the name of the book?
Where can they get it?
It's called G-Trans, True Stories of Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult.
get it on Amazon or you can order it from Skyhorse.
But it is worth a read, especially when you're considering how people go down this slippery slope.
I spend a lot of time explaining that with the real testimonies of people who slid down that slope themselves.
And what's amazing about the book is that you also show people the way out.
So for any parents or grandparents who might know someone in that way, there is a path.
