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The MAGA Gut Check
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That approval rating for the president, it is at a low point of his second term.
37% of Americans in our poll approve of the job Trump is doing.
63% disapprove.
Take a look at his approval in this term over time.
You see here, he was up hovering near 50% in his honeymoon after the inauguration, and it has been going down pretty steadily since.
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Sure.
I mean, interdictions continue.
The problem is interdictions alone are not effective.
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And so, and by the way, destabilize the Caribbean in the process.
Interdictions don't, interdictions have limited to no deterrent effect.
These drug organizations, they've already baked in the fact they may lose 5% of their drug shipments.
It doesn't stop them from coming, continuing to do it.
What you have seen is an impact on drug boats.
You have seen much less of, you're starting to see it.
It's a reality in both the Pacific and in the Caribbean basin, especially in the Caribbean.
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Today is November 14th, 2025.
Anno Domini.
As many of you know, if you were watching yesterday, I did have a step away during President Trump's executive order signing with the First Lady.
They were signing an executive order on foster care.
Incredible thing.
A lot of parents have step up, a lot of abuses of that system.
And I certainly hope that the president's working to correct that.
I had to take care of a matter that I will be making public at the appropriate time.
And that's going to be the best way to put that.
So what we're really excited about though today, everything's fine.
Don't worry.
Everyone is fine.
Don't worry.
That we are on with Rich Barrist.
And he's going to be coming on in a couple of minutes because I think what we do need is a gut check.
It's time for a MAGA gut check on where we're at, where we're going, where we could be going.
What are, and, and it's time for an assessment on all of this.
When I was in the military, we would do the intelligence briefings for the commanding officer.
And the intelligence briefings would always include this when we were talking about a threat briefing.
We would say, what is the ML COA and the MD COA?
So the ML COA, the most likely course of action, the MD COA, the most deadly course of action or the most dangerous course of action.
So we're going to walk through a very, you know, a various set of scenarios coming up.
And we're going to talk about where MAGA stands on all the issues.
And we're going to talk about the most likely scenario.
We're also going to talk about the most dangerous scenario.
And I really want to get into New Jersey because people say, oh, you know, you guys took the L. Are you going to talk about it?
No, we are going to talk about it.
We are going to do a thorough autopsy on New Jersey because Jack Chitterelli, who I thought was a decent candidate, you know, he didn't have the problems, you know, the baggage that Winsom Sears had down in Virginia.
I thought he was a good guy.
But at the same time, didn't happen.
It really didn't happen.
And we have to figure out why.
Because if we don't do that and if we don't do the work, then we can't understand how to get better.
If we act like we did everything right, if we act like everything's fine when everything's not, then we're doing a disservice to ourselves.
We're doing a disservice to the movement and we are doing a disservice to the country.
And it's really as simple as that.
This movement is about making America great again.
And it's about supporting President Trump in his fight to do so.
And that is what we're here for.
That is what we're here to do.
But we're also here to tell the truth.
Okay.
And you can't do that if you don't tell the truth.
You can't be a good supporter if you're not telling the truth.
That's what I do every day.
We're going to tell the truth same way we always tell the truth, whether it's on the Iran strikes, whether it's on Israel, whether it is on anything that's going on.
Jeffrey Epstein, we did a whole episode on yesterday.
More than happy to do it.
And we went through every single email that came out regarding President Trump.
So let's go through all the emails, see everything that came out.
And we did that.
Political playbook wrote us up.
Good for us.
So we're here to do that today.
So join us for the MAGA gut check.
It's Jack Vesobic, Human Events Daily.
We're going to have Richard Barris, the people's pundit, joining us now.
We're also going to do an autopsy of the Jack Chitterelli campaign, specifically in New Jersey, a place where many of us were trying to reach those crossover Republican voters.
Didn't happen.
We want to understand why.
We'll see you right back.
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And the First Lady of the United States, Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, joins us yet again.
Rich, what's going on, man?
Living the dream as always, my friend.
How you doing?
Doing well.
So we've been, you know, you and I have been chatting behind the scenes.
We were looking at some of that stuff with the New Jersey race.
We're looking at the president's numbers.
We're talking about a lot of the polling that's sort of been up and down and all over the place right now.
And I just wanted to get a gut sense.
You know, you've been out there.
I've seen Raspusin be out there.
I want to get a gut sense from you.
Where do you think?
And as what did Charlie say to Tucker?
Go Max.
Where's the president at right now?
I listened to that video, by the way, and I laughed because, I mean, I'm sure you've heard Charlie say that too, right?
Look, the president of the-I was standing like three feet away from Charlie and Megan and Tucker when I was like over with one of the producers.
And he would do that too.
I remember giving remarks at a turning point event after talking about election integrity.
And I'll never forget that was the first one I ever did.
It's a pretty common.
It's a pretty common phrase.
He always said that.
He did.
Yeah.
Go Max.
For me, it was usually go hard.
He'd be like, hey, go hard.
All right.
Look, this is that version.
The president is not in the same situation as Republicans, congressional Republicans, but he is at a crossroads.
He's at a pivotal point where he needs to course correct in the message and in what people perceive his main focus and priority is.
But, you know, again, I want to put this in context.
He is not in a terrible situation.
Our latest polling has him at about 45% approval.
That was out at the end of October.
We're still tracking right now.
He hasn't fallen below 43.
But if you look inside the numbers, which is why we call the show inside the numbers, there are cracks in the coalition that should be addressed.
And there's nothing wrong with pointing those out and saying, look, this is what this government's all about.
When somebody has grievance, you have to pay attention to them and try to get to the heart of what that is.
And young voters over, I would say, the last three months in particular.
Really, Jack, this started in July.
I mean, we could isolate this easily.
At the time, we did try to speak up and say, look, this is problematic.
The president is beloved by a lot of people.
And then there are voters in this coalition that are relatively new.
And so the task for Republicans was to get those voters into the coalition to complete that realignment.
So when you see an issue with some of those voters, you have to address it, right?
Otherwise, you're not going to complete the realignment.
And that is what that's what this race is all about.
This has been a decade-long race, Jack, to complete a realignment before the Democratic Party completes theirs.
And the Democrats are, they lost in 24, but their base is now more defined and more clear.
What's going on in the administration and with the debates that have been happening on the right is a product of this, right?
You have a part of the coalition that everybody wants to prioritize what they think is more important.
But there are those younger voters, especially, and independents, especially, who really want to see more focus on the economy at home.
They're not interventionist.
They were deeply disturbed about any kind of military action over the summer that was going to, they were fearing would distract the administration from doing, you know, the from focusing on the more America at first, America at home agenda.
And that's where we're at now.
I mean, where it's been months, and we're at a key time before the holidays where there has to be a course correction here.
That's the truth.
So, when, so when you say course correction, what are, what are the groups then where Trump's numbers need to go up from in what you're seeing?
So, immediately, the immediately 18 to 29-year-olds, 30 to 39 isn't as bad, but you can start to see that as well.
And then, independents.
So, I mean, I'm always focused on age because the signal is so strong with by age group, by age buckets.
They are not at all interested in foreign policy.
So, last month, we began to ask these questions.
And since July, we have been asking about what they think the U.S. role should be and how much focus they should put on domestic items versus the foreign.
And honestly, Jack, these younger voters have been saying, look, our inheritance has been squandered.
We're in trouble at home.
And we want a 90-10 split or 100-0 split focus on what the country that we will have when all, you know, when others who have had a much easier go at it and have been able to enjoy the peace dividends that they have never had, they are concerned about their future and their financial stability and the ability to raise a family in this environment or in the future environment, which is seen as kind of dire.
And they want that to be given the same, you know, as much concern as they have.
They want their representatives to reflect the concern that they have, their energy to reflect that concern.
And it's definitely, I mean, the 18 to 29 is the most crucial, but it is more than that, Jack.
We're talking about under 50 altogether, under 50.
The boomers are good.
You know, 15 above, they're good.
They think everything's fine, or at least most of them.
But everyone under 50 has a lot of concern.
And one of the things that I'm seeing and one of the reads that we're obviously getting out of the 2025 elections, we saw in New York, New Jersey, Virginia, is economic conditions.
And, you know, obviously the common way of putting that is cost of living.
Just the cost of living is, you know, and, you know, we can talk about, talk about it all day long.
We can talk about, you know, president's efforts to fight for this.
But it really does seem like when you go to these polls and when I talk to people that they seem to be saying that the cost of living and the optics surrounding the prioritization of cost of living are something people are responding to.
This is what I would tell the administration is that sometimes it's not even what, you know, what the achievements you're making or how the big beautiful bill had a lot of, obviously had a lot of items in there directed at that, but it's the focus, it's the optics of it, right?
And the overwhelming perception is that since July, particularly when first it was the Epstein stuff and that caused a little bit of a shake, Jack, you know, with younger voters, that made them very suspicious.
But then if there was a pivot and that pivot would have been optic-wise, focused on the domestic and their issues that they cared about, we wouldn't be here right now.
But instead, the administration didn't do that.
They got surrounded by a bunch of neocon pressure to deal with Israel's problems, Ukraine's problems.
And of course, he's the president.
You and I know he has to deal with foreign policy.
It's a big part of the presidency.
But it's about how much it looks like the president is concerned about that versus what they're concerned about at home.
And when you, I mean, honestly, anyone can go to the White House schedule and go look at the last three months and you can't argue with the voters.
They're right.
There has been more of a priority on that.
And they are, you know, a lot of people make this mistake.
The Biden administration did it too.
They tried to basically tell people, everything is fine.
We've done a lot for you.
You just haven't seen it yet.
That just doesn't work.
You know, I mean, it doesn't.
Obama did it too.
2%'s a new normal.
What's wrong with you?
Get on with your life.
For the professional class and for the older boomers and beyond and super seniors, they're doing all right.
But the rest of the voters are not and they don't feel it.
So even just the appearance that they are the priority would go a long way.
And they haven't been getting that.
If we're all being honest, they have not been getting that.
So, I mean, that's what has to change.
And by the way, that's why it's because of that situation.
That's the context whereby when, you know, we've seen this backlash to the H-1B comments.
That's where the backlash comes from.
Yes, 100%.
And I do think that a lot of people on the right who are very passionate about their support for Israel also don't realize that some of these issues are just being you.
They're just pressure points, right?
And I think it could have been any other conflict, Jack.
I mean, it could have been South Korea.
It could have been Taiwan.
It could have been any other point on the map.
And it still would have led to this backlash that we have seen.
I do think probably, you know, the way, not probably, the way that the, you know, the pro-Israel, more interventionist wing of the party, the way they handled it was the absolute worst way to handle it.
Because again, you have to realize a lot of these people are new members of the coalition.
But for people who think, well, they're new and, you know, they got to, they got to do their time.
That's ridiculous.
They are the younger, less white, more diverse.
They are the future, right?
So you're kowtowing to, you're kowtowing and letting this group of older, you know, the past browbeat the younger part of your coalition, which is your future and the way the path to your victories, your future victories, you're letting them browbeat them.
And here's something that I think people really need to understand.
Sometimes I forget to put it up daily, but I try to remember to put it up daily.
The Republican Party is America first now by majority overwhelmingly because of these voters.
The older the age bucket, the more split Republican voters are between America First identification and traditional Republican identification.
It's overwhelmingly getting right back on the other side of the break.
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So Rich, we're on with Rich Barris here, Human Events, the People's Pundit.
Rich, you were talking about how the president is at an inflection point.
You were talking about how there's really been this huge drop off with Gen Z voters.
You've talked about how there's a way to, you know, there are ways to pivot on this and really talking about how it seems as almost though that foreign policy has taken the driver's seat and taken the front row while the back seat are given to domestic policy issues and how this isn't always necessarily mean that the, you know, the White House isn't doing anything, but it does mean it's an optics thing.
When the president goes overseas and the president's receiving a foreign dignitary, it just seems like that's where his focus is at because that's what people see.
That's what they perceive.
And so, you know, attention is influence.
So it seems like that's where the influence is.
If you were talking to the White House, what are some of the things that you would say?
Go on a tour.
Go on a tour.
Go on a manufacturing tour.
Go on an America restoration tour.
All right.
Something like that.
Brand it, something to that effect.
Gear the messaging towards people who are 50 and under in this country.
The fact of the matter is the numbers haven't moved all that much with those who are 50 and above.
This is coming from core working voters.
And the reason why is very clear.
As far as I know, we're the first, not as far as I know.
I'm being, I'm trying to be funny and facetious here.
We are the first pollster for years now to start to ask Republicans what they identify as and what they want prioritized by their leaders.
And if you look at, and we put this data out, we have been for years now, Jack.
If you look at it, you will see that the future of the Republican Party, if they have one, is 100% built, it has to be built around America first.
Older voters are equally basically aligned between traditional Republicans and those who identify more with the America First Agenda.
They call themselves America First Republicans.
But under 50, it explodes.
Prime working age people, 30 to 44, are the most likely, it's two-thirds majority to say they're America First.
And the younger generations you can see are getting more America first the younger they get.
So look, this is a matter of numbers and demographic trends.
You cannot give, even if it's optics, you cannot appear to be giving more of your attention to the issues that people who honestly won't be much of a political factor in 10 years tops.
You cannot be giving them all your attention if you want to build a durable, long-lasting coalition.
And ironically, Jack, we've also asked this question now for a while.
It's like the perceived focus that the Trump administration has been giving.
Do you think that they give too much focus on foreign policy versus domestic policy, too much focus on domestic policy versus foreign policy?
Or the third option is about right.
It's obvious.
It's very clear.
If you look at those who are above the age of 65 and above, they are about split.
And they said the largest pool of them will say that it's about right.
You know, the Trump administration is splitting their time evenly.
Everybody else, and it's an overwhelming majority of all voters because of this, and then obviously of the age buckets below.
Everybody else has its overwhelming majorities that say they are focused too much on foreign policy.
And again, the younger you get.
So if it's, you know, the 30 to 45, the, you know, and we also do age details.
So you could look at it from 18 to 24, 25 to 29, 30 to 39, 40 to 49.
It's very clear.
It's a very textbook, a very textbook age signal where you can see that the younger you are, the more likely you are to say that they want, they think the president and the administration are too focused on foreign stuff.
They want more attention at home and their own problems.
And I mean, again, honestly, if you look at the, I mean, the president has to hold, you know, he has to host foreign dignitaries.
He's got to make foreign trips.
But it's a matter of how you're splitting your time.
It's the optics, of course, and we're using this word, but the truth of the matter is the voters are right.
And it's demonstrably true that over the last three months, you can look at the schedule that the White House has given much more weight, much more time.
And then when you look at congressional Republicans, here's the real danger.
The entire nine months, last nine months, the number one priority, the number one goal for the Republican Party and Congress specifically was to convince voters that they were more like Trump, that they were going to rebrand themselves as the Party of America first.
If they wanted to hold on to these new non-white voting coalitions, younger voting coalitions, they had to do that because the truth is these new Trump voters don't really like the Republican Party all that much at all.
They don't identify as conservatives.
In fact, we're at a historic low for overall identification as conservative.
And it's obviously worse.
It's the lowest the younger you go.
And Republicans just didn't do that, Jack.
They didn't.
I mean, that's just a fact.
So in order for them to fix this, they're going to have to do something that is relatively historic.
They're going to have to break their tradition of after the holidays, you know, shifting into campaign mode, being risk adverse, not wanting to take on aggressive agenda items.
They're going to have to put that aside.
And that's the way DC works.
And I understand that, but their window to rebrand themselves has closed.
They literally have to reopen it now because any course correction the White House makes is probably not going to trickle down to them in the generic ballot.
Those voters are just going to continue to see Donald Trump as differently than the Republican Party.
And that's going to hurt them in the midterms badly.
Badly.
Well, I think that's right.
I think it's exactly right.
Rich Barris will be right back.
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Rich, I got to ask you, man, and you're someone who knows the state even better than me, New Jersey.
We got to talk about New Jersey because the Jack Chitterelli campaign and I was remiss.
I did not have the people's pundit on before we went into that state.
We fought the good fight, but nobody saw Mikey Sheryl coming out with a 13-point win.
And the pollsters got this completely wrong.
They completely blew it.
You did not release any public polling in that race, but I would like to get your read on it as someone, you're not from Jersey, but you lived in Jersey for a long time.
You understand Jersey.
Walk me through what happened there.
And obviously you do know.
I mean, we just didn't release any public polling, but I will give, I'll try to say this because we didn't view that race at the end to be that close.
The same thing with Virginia, but I will tell people to give pollsters, depending on when they polled, you know, cut them a little bit of slack here because it really did run away in the polling from Republicans in about the last two weeks.
So if somebody had polled a little bit before that, it could have been, you know, if you, if you got like a Cheryl plus six or closer, it's justifiable.
But it got away.
And New Jersey, the Garden state, which I still have a lot of love for, this is a great example of the voters that you and I were just talking about.
Specifically, not so much even on the younger side.
Of course, that matters too, but definitely more on the non-white side of the new MAGA coalition.
Donald Trump made that state five points, Jack.
And it's a remarkable, almost Herculean task when you consider that New Jersey was one of only two states, along with Hawaii in 2012 to vote more for Barack Obama than it did in 08.
And for people who don't know or don't remember, Barack Obama won in 2012 by a much narrower margin than he won in 08.
And he became the first president ever to be reelected by a smaller margin than when he was first elected.
He has the dubious distinction in history for that.
But New Jersey actually won't be able to do it.
And by the way, Rich, I was talking about that, and I was talking about how Biden won by a much wider margin than Obama won in 2012.
And that's how much of an impact the new America First movement that led up to 24 had, Jack, not only on New Jersey, but literally everywhere around the country.
And before, maybe we didn't talk about it before this election, but before 24, you and I did speak about this.
I went to northern New Jersey in New York with my wife.
We were there to see her cousin get married.
And we were in a lot of the parts of the state, Passaic, with his heavily non-white population.
You could see the Trump supporters everywhere.
And I'm not talking about Appalachian working class Trump supporters.
These were non-whites, multi-racial, multi-religious affiliations.
It was incredible finding any spot where there's grass in some of the areas in northern Jersey with crazy, dangerous U-turns still out there packed in and holding signs, not because it was a rally, but because they were just there to show their support for Donald Trump.
Yet many of them would still have the Democratic candidates lawn signs right next to signs that said Trump or bust voters.
So when I stressed after the election that you could, if you're the Republican Party, you could assault the Mid-Atlantic, but it requires something new.
And that's not what we saw in New Jersey.
For instance, because let's get to the heart of it.
So there's a lot of things that went wrong for Republicans in New Jersey.
Let's get to the heart of some of them.
The prevailing view among people who are most involved are helping Jack Sitterally in the campaign.
The prevailing view was that, you know, keep the president out of here because he's going to drive up Democratic turnout.
That, when I hear things like that, 10 years into this movement, it's so frustrating.
And I just find that.
And by the way, Bridge, I have to say it.
I have to say it.
The people who were pushing that were the Chris Christie people.
It was this Chris Christie network that's all throughout the state of New Jersey.
The same way that the McCain people, it was the same thing that McCain people did with Kerry Lake in Arizona, where this person is not from our network.
This person is not one of us.
And therefore, he hasn't kissed the ring.
And therefore, we're not going to help them.
And also, they really do believe that nonsense, Jack.
And that's a, when I hear it, it tells me that there's still too many Republican consultants, whether they mean well or not.
There's who think stale.
Their thinking is stale.
And they don't understand, forget about any of the intricacies.
They don't understand the basics of the realignment that they needed to complete.
And the truth is, why?
Why am I saying that?
Because Democrats now have the higher propensity coalition.
They're always going to have, especially in off-cycle and midterm races, they're always going to have a base that is more reliable to turn out than Republicans are going to.
They have a smaller one, but they have that base that's more reliable.
It used to be, you know, back in 2014, back in 2010, Republicans relied on this in order to win midterms that they really shouldn't have won.
If all the voting population came out, they would have lost those, right?
And Republicans have yet to come to grips with this.
And the idea that you're somehow going to juice turnout more among the Democratic base because Donald Trump is out there is just ignorant.
It means you don't understand this new world.
It is a new world.
It is a new coalition.
And it's because of the realignment.
Donald Trump needs to be involved in order to match the enthusiasm.
Look, Democrats did not bring Barack Obama into the urban areas, folks, because Mikey Sheryl was in a good position three weeks before the election.
That's just BS and ridiculous.
They brought Barack Obama in because their polls were showing what everybody else's polls were showing, which is that this is kind of dangerously close.
We need to bring Obama in to talk about this shutdown, which was another big part of this, especially in urban areas.
You had Democrats, including Barack Obama, running around saying, if you don't vote for Mikey Sherrill, Republicans are going to starve you out.
Look at what they're doing to you.
The snap benefits are going to run out.
And people bought it.
And it's important not to look down on those people, even if many of them had just voted for Donald Trump.
It's not, you can't blame them because they didn't get a counter message.
They didn't see Donald, who I know, by the way, the president was willing to do in-person events.
Teller rallies do nothing.
They do nothing, which is why you and I discussed this a little bit earlier.
So a lot of people were putting the signal out that there was going to be this crossover vote of Democrats voting for the Republican.
But are you saying then that the crossover actually went the other way and there were Republicans who voted for Mikey Sherrill?
In bulk polling that Mark Mitchell at Rasmussen Reports did and polling I did, there were actually more Republicans who were voting for Mikey Sherrill than there were Democrats voting for Jack Chitterelli.
And that's of the likely voter universe.
So that goes to show you how much they failed at turning out the universe of voters that they needed to.
And I hear people say things like, but we got more votes than we did in 21.
Guys, that is a basic minimal requirement.
You shouldn't be patting yourselves on the back for it.
You, Donald Trump, unless you know anybody else other than Donald Trump, who could go to Wildwood, New Jersey and draw a crowd of 100,000 people, then knock yourselves out.
You can't.
Donald Trump, those Democrats that were in polls, like the Emerson poll, right?
That was showing three to one crossover that actually favored Chitterelli, they didn't vote.
Those are Democrats that just voted for Donald Trump 12 months ago, Jack, because Donald Trump could not have gotten within five points just for all the, to dispel all the ridiculous, like, you know, exit poll myths out there.
Donald Trump cannot get within five points of Kamala Harris in the state of New Jersey without significant help from Democrats, and he got it.
He also won independence overwhelmingly.
There's just not enough Republicans in that state to even get that level of support.
But it's the polling models that were gauging that universe don't realize that that universe is not going to be the electorate without Donald Trump's direct involvement.
I mean, it's obvious.
At some point, the Republicans have to learn to live without him, Jack.
But for right now, they just simply can't.
They just can't.
And for people who don't understand the significance of when I say he can bring 100,000 people to Wildwood, for everyone who was born, raised, went to school in South Central Jersey, Wildwood, you're going to laugh when you hear me say this because you know Wildwood is not some typical Republican or Wasp Republican or silk stocking Republican town.
He's not that spot.
Trump pulled him out.
He did it with immigration and the economy.
Right back, Jack Pesobic, Rich Barris.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
All right, folks, Jack Pisobic, we're back live, Human Events, Daily Real America's Voice, folks.
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All right, so we're on with Rich Barris, the People's Pundit.
Rich, you know, we're talking about some of these things, and you know, we want to be constructive as well here.
That, you know, it really goes back to, and as much as off the rocker as he's been, it really does feel like it's the old James Carville.
It's the economy, stupid.
Yeah.
It's people want, and here's a big difference, right?
And I've been saying this online a little bit: is we have to stop confusing the GDP for economic conditions.
We have to stop confusing the stock market for cost of living.
They're not the same thing.
They're just not.
And in fact, they probably never.
By the way, the GDP doesn't even really exist.
It's a theory.
It's like an economic model, the same way that we had climate models.
That doesn't always necessarily mean that it works out.
So when you take all that in consideration, Rich, and this is something, by the way, Charlie talked about this all the time, especially with Gen Z.
He talked about the debt bubbles.
He talked about people taking out these micro loans, buy now, pay later, all this stuff just to get food, just to get DoorDash, just to get Uber Eats.
This is not a way to live.
And you wonder why these people are so upset at the system.
Talk to me about the economic side of this.
People need to start thinking about this as people's perceptions of their conditions in life, right?
I mean, it's funny because you used to foreign leaders like George Bush talk about the human condition all around the world, except for in the United States.
For once, people want their leaders to care about their conditions, Jack, which is why when we ask about our most important issues, we do a ranked distribution, which in my opinion is far superior than asking people what their singular most important issue is.
When we do a ranked distribution, cost of living is running away, going running away with it.
And economy and jobs is number two, but it's amazing how much of a distant number two it is.
Number three, by the way, is healthcare.
So all the top three issues are about the conditions of the economic conditions that people feel like they're living in, right?
And while it is important, yes, that inflation hit a high of 9, what, 0.2 under Biden, and it has since cooled under Donald Trump.
That's absolutely true.
It's the other things in their lives, healthcare costs, premiums, prescription drugs, their rents, right?
How much it costs to lease or buy a vehicle, if they're even able to do that, have far outpaced the wages that they're bringing in.
A voter told us the other day, and I know it's not exactly right, but this is a voter of leisure and hospitality voted for Trump young voter in Clark County in Nevada, what people don't really know that is.
That's Vegas.
And the tax on tips rule is convoluted with the IRS.
So they'll wind up just taking a standard deduction and that's it.
And they won't even deal with whether or not that policy can impact that can benefit them.
So we need to look at this more.
And GDP, like you said, it's totally useless to the average voter what GDP is.
And it's been, the methodology has been changed so often.
Obama changed it to include his friends in Hollywood.
They're going to get a motion picture in the next year or so.
Okay, throw that in GDP.
Well, how does that help the average worker in Clark County, Florida?
I mean, Clark County, Nevada.
How does that help the average worker in Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, right?
It doesn't.
They don't care about that.
This is about how they feel their life can their overall life condition.
We actually asked that in our economic confidence index, business conditions, employment conditions, right?
Income.
Do you feel like in the next six months, your family income, your total family income is going to meet the requirements of your economic conditions?
And that will tell you a whole lot more.
And honestly, that index plunged last month in October.
It's not the lowest it's ever been, but it is.
It's the lowest it's been in Trump's second term.
And it's sad to watch this because after Donald Trump was elected, it hit an all-time high after being completely stagnant under Joe, under Joe Biden.
So, you know, it's a very real thing.
And people, you know, there's been a lot of people out there dismissive of this stuff and pointing to traditional indicators that you're pointing at.
And it doesn't matter.
None of that matters.
This is about perception.
And honestly, reality takes a while to change perceptions.
We know this.
There's a lot of study on a lot of research on this.
You could have a low CPI, you know, three months in a row, and it's going to take time for people for that to sink in and for people's views to change.
And by the way, this was, again, I'm pointing this out for a reason.
This was an electorally fatal mistake that Democrats made in the Obama and the Biden years.
They would point to this and they would say, look, we created this many jobs.
You just don't realize how good things are going.
And they would ignore the conditions that people felt they were in and perception, the optics of it all.
And honestly, Mark Penn, he's a Democratic pollster.
He has this saying, he's been saying this for a long time.
You know, you can continue with that, but reality always wins.
And the fact is that Republicans have to confront the reality because it will win and they will lose.
Well, and this is what it comes down to, right?
And so it's optics.
I've been out there a ton, been out there a ton talking about, guys, throw something out, tariff the outsourcing, tariff the remote work.
And they even said they were going to start looking at it, by the way.
Like people do view themselves as in a competition with these foreign workers and when they're attacking people and all the rest of it.
And so you've got to look like you're on the side of the American worker.
If you look like you're on the side of the American worker, then the American worker is going to support you.
It's really as simple as that.
You know, Barack Obama in his first term was actually really good at this.
You and I both know that he did absolutely nothing to address the economic conditions following the Great Recession.
But he sure looked like he was, right?
I mean, they were very good at putting on a show.
And he would argue, you know, obviously the new normal line, it got old by the end of his second term.
And that's why Hillary Clinton, who tried to run on it, got wiped by Donald Trump.
But it did work in the beginning.
And that's a lesson Republicans should take.
The American Reinvestment Act actually hurt the economy, but it doesn't matter.
They weren't, you know, this was the American Reinvestment Act.
Don't you see me working very hard to get you shovel-ready jobs?
It's optics.
And the difference here is that Donald Trump's policies actually do have an economic benefit, right?
So it doesn't have to all be about optics.
Eventually, those policies will take root.
And people know that too, which is a benefit that he has that others like Barack Obama were never given.
His approval rating in Obama, I'm talking about, his approval rating used to be positive all the time, but his approval rating on the economy was negative all the time.
Trump's first term, it was the opposite.
His approval on the economy was always positive, but his overall approval was negative.
That's the danger sign here.
Something people should be, you know, the red siren should be going off like crazy.
Because if you compare his first term to his second term in recent, recent from July on, you'll see that that now is no longer the case.
That is optics.
All right.
They believe that his administration, you know, by the spring and the summer, kind of just stopped concerning themselves about their problems.
And again, that this, until this is addressed, recognized, and of course corrected, it can only get worse.
So, I mean, this was something I tried to explain back in July.
And I remember a lot of people scoffing it off and saying, oh my God, he's making such a big deal out of this.
And it's only slightly negative.
And the headline in the press release even said slightly negative.
