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The Anchorage Accords: The Historic Meeting of Trump and Putin in Alaska

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	Christ is King.
	President Trump scheduled a meeting with Vladimir Putin on US soil.
	The leader is set to meet on a US military base in Anchorage, Alaska, expected to discuss terms for ending Russia's invasion of Ukraine, along with nuclear arms control and trade agreements.
	I think that President Putin would like to see a deal.
	I think if I weren't President, he would take over all of Ukraine.
	But I am President, and he's not going to mess around around with me.
	Putin is praising Trump's energetic and sincere efforts to stop the hostilities.
	Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was not invited to today's summit.
	President Trump suggesting the meeting with Putin could open the door to a second meeting that would include Zelenskyy.
	I think it's going to be a good meeting, but the more important meeting will be the second meeting that we're having.
	the first time I should add in about a decade or so that the Russian leader will be on U.S. soil.
	Screaming
	And there is the president making his way up to the top of the steps there for Air Force One, making a wave.
	We also know, guys, who the president is going to be traveling with.
	Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Commerce Secretary Lutnik, Treasury Secretary Besson and CIA Director Radcliffe will be part of the enclave.
	Zelenskyy, concerned about Trump's support for an exchange of territory, is calling for a ceasefire first and then negotiations.
	The Ukrainian president, backed by European leaders, also demanding security guarantees.
	Trump said today that he estimates the chance of failure in the negotiations at 25 percent.
	And what is our assessment?
	We never make any predictions in advance.
	We know that we have arguments., we have a clear and understandable position, and we will present it.
	I'm not doing this for my health, okay?
	I don't need it.
	I'd like to focus on our country, but I'm doing this to save a lot of lives.
	And now we're taking a look at Alaska Live right now in anticipation of the presidential summit with Vladimir Putin of Russia, which should be happening just any moment now.
	We'll keep you posted on that.
	Welcome to Human Events.
	I'm Bo Davidson, filling in for the great Jack Posobuk, who is on Air Force One right now as part of the RAV delegation covering this historic meeting of President Trump with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
	And the weight of peace hangs on the balance in Alaska today.
	These are the historic Anchorage Accords.
	We are expecting Air Force One to land in Anchorage, as I said, at any moment.
	And the stakes, folks, could not be any higher.
	There are reports that both President Trump and President Putin will touchdown within just minutes of one another, and then we'll have an epic moment on the tarmac before the private meeting that could potentially, potentially, ladies and gentlemen, change the fate of millions around the world.
	Now, how will this conversation go?
	Well, President Trump has indicated that if it goes poorly, it will be short and he will depart swiftly back to DC.
	But we pray that that's not the case today.
	We hope and pray for peace and a lasting peace and an end to the killing.
	That's what President Trump has indicated.
	Now, overnight, Russia launched two ballistic missiles into Ukraine and sent ground troops into Donetsk, an area of eastern Ukraine.
	So the tension could not be any more palpable.
	And let's talk about some of the history here in this conflict.
	This will be the sixth meeting between President Trump and Putin.
	The first two were in 2017, and then Helsinki and the G20 in 2018, and then 2019 in Osaka.
	So this is meeting number six between the two.
	to and the most consequential of them all, hands down.
	Some out there have already nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, which seems to be very well deserved.
	But this is his biggest test yet.
	If he can thread that needle with two nations in war, depleted in manpower and resources, this is a story that is three years in the making, and it harkens back to 1945, when the Security Council met to end World War II.
	That is what is at stake today.
	And earlier today, to that point, Vladimir Putin made a very rare public appearance at a monument honoring US cooperation during World War II, just hours before this upcoming summit with President Trump.
	The significance of this can.
	cannot be overstated because we were once allies and we can be again.
	That's what's on the table today.
	And let's talk about some of the possible outcomes from this summit.
	Well, I mentioned the undesirable one, which is that they meet, it goes poorly, and they go home.
	That likely means more war, more casualties.
	But there are other options on the table.
	What has been called closure of the skies.
	I mentioned that Russia's ballistic missile attacks happened last night.
	A win would be stopping the air attacks.
	That's big for Ukraine.
	And then there's this idea of land for peace or territorial swaps.
	That is on the table too.
	Donald Trump has indicated that he's not there to negotiate for Ukraine, but he is there to get the two sides to the table and create peace.
	Putin has stated that he thinks President Trump is making, quote, sincere efforts for peace.
	Zelenskyy has agreed to a ceasefire already, but Vladimir Putin has not.
	That's why today's Anchorage Accord is so very important.
	Now, Russia's economy is in trouble.
	The price of war is steep, but it's not just the billions of dollars wasted on death.
	It's the millions of lives wasted because of low IQ Joe Biden, his administration that allowed this to happen.
	An entire generation of Ukrainians is gone, wiped out.
	Zelenskyy can't find soldiers to fight no matter how many missiles we send them.
	And President Trump also spoke with Belarusian President Lukashenko.
	Shout out to Atanya Tay, who facilitated the release of sixteen Ukrainian prisoners.
	Now they're discussing now the release of 1300 more.
	That's clearly a good sign.
	But not attending today's summit is Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
	The meeting between him and Putin could take place, I mentioned could take place after this, depending on how things go today.
	But he says the Ukrainian constitution prevents him from ceding any land to Russia.
	So here we are now, just moments away.
	Scott Bessant, who made inroads with Zelenskyy several months ago on rare earth minerals, is on board Air Force One as well.
	So in the name of peace, you have to wonder what carrots will President Trump be dangling to try to close the deal?
	Will it be oil?
	Will it be rare earth minerals, land swaps, security assurances?
	What's going to take to end the carnage?
	We'll have those questions and answers for you.
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	Welcome to the second.
	What will make a success of this summit today?
	I can't tell you that.
	I don't know.
	It's, uh, there's nothing set in stone.
	I want certain things.
	I want to see a ceasefire.
	This is not to do with Europe.
	Europe's not telling me what to do.
	But they're going to be involved in the process, obviously, as will Zelensky.
	But I want to see a ceasefire rapidly.
	I don't know if it's going to be today, but I'm not going to be happy if it's not today.
	Everyone said it can't be today, but I'm just saying I want the killing to stop.
	I'm in this to stop the killing.
	They lost last week.
	Last week, 7,011 people were lost, almost all soldiers.
	36 people in a town which got hit by a missile, but 7,000, over 7,000 soldiers.
	It's crazy.
	Welcome back to Human Events on a historic day, as we watch the president land in Anchorage for the Anchorage Accords, meeting soon with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
	That clip of the video that you just saw comes from Air Force One, in which President Trump is asked what a successful meeting would look like.
	And pretty simply, he says to stop the killing.
	Well, joining me now is Steve Gruber, host of America's Voice Live.
	Steve, what a day, what an occasion with peace hanging in the balance.
	Now, Trump says that success would be a ceasefire and a stopping of the killing.
	What is your view on where we are today ahead of this monumental summit?
	Beau, it is a remarkable day to say the least.
	Look at the irony of it all.
	Meeting in Alaska, former Russian territory.
	Russia lost the Crimean War in 1867 and sold Alaska to us for seven point two million dollars fifteen cents an acre.
	And then he invites mister Putin back to Alaska with all those Russian Orthodox churches sprinkling the landscape.
	It really is an ironic place to be.
	And Alaska, the center of the universe for the Alaska, of course, looks.
	My advice to people watching today is the same as it has been for a while.
	Do not underestimate Donald Trump as president of the United States.
	59% of the poll I just saw today don't believe he's going to get anything out of today.
	Maybe that's true.
	Maybe it is.
	But he's there.
	He's on the ground.
	He's present.
	He's working.
	And like he said on Air Force One, there's nothing in this for him.
	He could be working on the economy or the border or what happens next with the investment in the United States or a hundred other things that he could be doing in the Oval Office today.
	But instead, he's trying to end a war that kills five thousand people a week, twenty thousand people a month.
	More people have died in this war than died in the first two years of the war.
	1939 and 1940.
	Think about that.
	Put that into perspective.
	That's the war he's trying to end.
	Now having said that, I don't believe Crimea is going to go back to Ukraine.
	It's been Russian territory since 2012.
	I don't believe the Donbass is going to go back to Ukraine.
	I believe that this is the same situation we've been in since the Biden administration turned down a deal a few weeks in this war back in 2022.
	It's very complex, as Donald Trump has said for a few days, but think back, Bo.
	We didn't even have this on our dance card a week ago.
	President Trump works.
	He puts it together.
	He straightens it.
	And all of a sudden, he pulls off a summit in Alaska.
	First time in ten years that Vladimir Putin has been on American soil, and it is ironic that it's former Russian soil.
	I think that you cannot lose that irony, and Donald Trump does these things for a reason, and I don't think this was accidental at all.
	Yeah, ye of little faith, beware, right?
	Don't underestimate, and I think Mike Pompeo said just as much when he was meeting with President Trump and Kim Jong Un.
	And they met, and a couple of minutes later he said, This can't be true.
	We're out of here.
	We're out of here.
	And so that could happen today.
	We pray that that doesn't happen.
	We pray that that doesn't happen.
	We pray that Vladimir Putin comes in peace, and it's sincere peace.
	Steve, I want to play a bit of video here of the Russian foreign minister on this topic.
	Let's roll that clip.
	Donald Trump said today that he estimates the chance of failure in the negotiations at 25%.
	And what is our assessment?
	We never make any predictions in advance.
	We know that we have arguments.
	We have a clear and understandable position, and we will present it.
	A lot has already been accomplished here during Steve and Whitcoff's visits.
	The President mentioned this, and Whitcoff spoke on behalf of President Trump.
	I hope that today and tomorrow we will continue this very useful conversation.
	So, Steve, Trump says there's about a 25% of failure.
	Well, that means a 75% of success, I would say.
	The Russian foreign minister does not like playing fan duel or craps or blackjack, I suppose, Steve.
	He says they make no predictions.
	But what do you make of his assessment and the steps that Steve Whitcoff has taken to get us here?
	Are we at the precipice of real peace?
	Potentially.
	And then let me focus on Whitcoff for a moment.
	And let's focus on what the left has said about Whitcoff from day one.
	They call him a rookie, an amateur, a guy out of his depth, a guy that didn't belong in these high stakes negotiations.
	Every place that Whitcoff has gone around the world, we've found peace seven times over, whether it's in Central Africa or it's India and Pakistan or it's Pick Your Place Armenia and Azerbaijan, which happened just last week.
	Steve Whitcoff has been instrumental in all of those negotiations.
	So for the left, I say again, don't underestimate Donald Trump, don't underestimate his team.
	They do their homework, they work really hard.
	I mean, how many times is Donald Trump in the Oval Office at five in the morning, just about every day?
	I mean, that Marine is based outside that Oval Office just about every day, five, five thirty in the morning.
	He comes in, he gets work done, he makes things happen.
	And I want to go back to the fact that a week ago we didn't even see this on the horizon.
	This is Donald Trump.
	And look, this guy is seventy nine years old.
	He runs circles around the whole world, Bo.
	I mean, it's remarkable what he's doing.
	And he's thinking all the time.
	And Look, failure, is it possible?
	Sure.
	But I want to give credit to Whitcoff.
	I want to give credit to Donald Trump for choosing him to get all these important negotiations done because he has exceeded expectations, certainly of those on the left who have derided him and considered him, again, a rookie, a guy in over his head.
	Clearly not true.
	So that's really important.
	And here's something else that's on the table today that I haven't heard you mention yet, and we should.
	Not only are we possibly looking at the end of the war in Ukraine, we're also looking at the possibility of an expanded nuclear arms agreement.
	That's been mentioned.
	And that was mentioned by Vladimir Putin on Russian television.
	Wouldn't that be remarkable?
	I mean, you know what Donald Trump isald Trump has done in seven different wars around the world.
	If he can bring the Ukraine war to an end, it is time for the Pulitzer Prize.
	Stop the games.
	Stop making the Pulitzer Prize some sort of a virtuous signal for those on the left.
	Donald Trump has earned it.
	As I recall, Barack Obama solved exactly zero wars before getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
	Donald Trump is working on it every day.
	And in places, I mean, do you really know much about the Republic of Congo and Rwanda?
	Most people don't.
	But he went there and stopped a war.
	Armenia, Azerbaijan, who knows much about that?
	Most people don't.
	Donald Trump went there and stopped a war.
	This is what he does.
	He is the most peaceful The most peace obsessed president maybe of the last 100 years.
	It's pretty remarkable what we're watching.
	India, Pakistan, Cambodia, Thailand.
	You know, the list just goes on and on and on.
	And you're right.
	This wasn't even really on our dance card a week ago.
	You can't underestimate this guy.
	It's absolutely true what you're saying.
	I think that we're at a moment of such uniqueness for so many different reasons.
	The arms deal that you mentioned as well.
	And you're right.
	Peace obsessed.
	I haven't really heard that phrase, but that's so apropos.
	Peace obsessed.
	And everybody thought that Donald Trump was going to get us involved in World War III.
	And that just hasn't happened.
	Steve, I have to get your take, though, on what is the Russian perspective?
	A lot of people are not going to talk about this today.
	They're going to be talking about our perspective, and understandably so.
	But what does a win look like for them?
	Because their economy is struggling.
	They had to quadruple pay to their soldiers.
	So will it be some sort of financial incentive that Trump can offer that gives Putin a possible win?
	Well, one cannot avoid the echoes of Yalta 1945, which occurred, obviously, in Russia at that time on the Sea Coast Resort of Yalta.
	You look back and you wonder what's going to happen today, because, as you know, Zelenskyy was not invited to the discussion today.
	He has in advance rejected anything that comes out of it.
	Not a good card to play.
	Look, it's in everyone's best interest to stop killing.
	It's a slow grind.
	It's five thousand people a week, twenty thousand people a month, one and a half million people killed or wounded so far.
	It's a horrible war.
	And for Russia, I believe saving face here, saying we're going to keep Crimea, we're going to keep sections of Donbass, whatever it might be, that's what success looks like.
	At least they got something out of it.
	For Ukraine, not quite as clear.
	They're going to cede territory.
	Zelenskyy can say they're not going to.
	I don't see any other way around this.
	I think it's inevitable.?
	Look, Crimea was taken when Barack Obama was president in 2012.
	It's been in Russian hands for thirteen years.
	It's not going to go back.
	It's their seaport.
	They're not going to give that up.
	It's critical to their well, to their trade, to their military, to all their infrastructure.
	They're not going to give that back.
	You can see the map here.
	It's not going to go back.
	You look at the Donbass, you look at the eastern regions of Ukraine that have been under Russian control for the most part since February 2022.
	It's not going to go back.
	I don't believe.
	I don't see how you could get there successfully.
	Now, having said that, we did hear Donald Trump make a comment here a couple of days ago.
	There could be some swapping of territory.
	It's complicated, he said.
	He said, and so we might see a little give and take in that area.
	But when it's all said and done, whether peace is found today or at some point in the future, I believe those I believe those territories have been ceded to Russia already.
	You don't have enough people left in Ukraine to fight the war.
	The Russians don't want to fight this war anymore either.
	It's miserable.
	People are dying out there.
	It's a miserable fight that they don't really want either.
	Look, a lot of these families are related.
	I mean, there's some ways you could draw parallels to the United States Civil War.
	There are families on each side of this border that are long term, you know, families.
	You had cousins on one side and brothers on the other.
	That's how divided.
	But is at the same time so closely related.
	And that's also what's on the table here.
	I believe peace is coming.
	I'm an optimist.
	So today.
	I'm not sure.
	So what is a win?
	What is a win for Zelenskyy and Ukraine then?
	You mentioned that they say they're not going to cede any territory.
	There could be this land swap.
	What's a win for Ukraine?
	Just stopping the killing so they stop losing in the war every single day.
	You have to look at that as you have to look at that stop the missile attacks, the drone attacks, the attacks on its territory.
	However, here's a loss for Ukraine.
	If they give up that eastern portion of real estate, that's where all of the rare earth minerals are, the energy is, a lot of things that are real assets, natural resource wise, are in eastern parts of that country.
	So their hope is to retain something of value when you get to the end of the negotiations, something of value that they can take home.
	Look, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, I'm not a fan of Putin particularly either, so I don't know what a look, what a win looks like for Zelensky.
	I don't know if he can come out of this winning or not.
	My guess is his time in office, his days are numbered.
	I don't think he's going to be there much longer.
	He doesn't have the open check book that the administration previously gave him from Joe Biden.
	It's a different day.
	And I don't know what a win looks like for Zelensky or.
	And Steve, we may get into this later, but I think China's watching too with respect to Taiwan.
	I think whatever happens today has much bigger global implications than people think about.
	And I think it's a win for us, for America, to have this meeting today regardless, because that's what Donald Trump can do.
	We'll be back in just a couple moments with more great coverage here.
	Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
	These are influencers.
	And they're friends of mine, Jack Pesobik.
	Where's Jack?
	Jack.
	He's got a great job.
	Welcome back to Human Events.
	I'm Bo Davidson filling in for Jack Pesobik, who is on Air Force One right now as part of our RAV delegation covering this momentous event.
	It's all part of our collective team effort here at Real America's Voice pulling out all the stops to give you the best and brightest coverage of the Anchorage Accords today.
	Now to touch off where we left off with Steve Gruber, these are Christians killing Christians.
	They share the same religion, often some of the same family members.
	That's why Steve said it's kind of like the Civil War.
	This is human casualties.
	Well, joining me now to further discuss today's summit is Ben Bergwam.
	Ben, I'd like to get your assessment of where we are today and how peace or potentially more war are at stake.
	And just this notion of the fact that there are families fighting against each other, very similar to our Civil War, and the fact that it is Christian brother against Christian brother.
	Yeah.
	And you know, I was in Ukraine not too long ago, just a couple of years ago in the middle of the fighting.
	We went out to the front and that's what you saw.
	You saw these communities of people who identified with both.
	You know, they had families that were on the Russian side.
	They had families that were on the Ukraine side.
	It sounds like.
	Yeah, it sounds like I'm trying to cut in on you now.
	Yeah, he just landed.
	Yeah, let's take a look at this shot right now.
	Air Force One has landed in Alaska in Anchorage.
	We're taking this now.
	And Ben, go ahead and complete your thought because we are talking about the fact that it is brother against brother.
	And you were talking about you were in Ukraine.
	Go ahead and finish that thought.
	Yeah, I mean, that's really what we're up against.
	You know, here in Cal, I'm actually in California reporting outside Riverside and you go across the state here, it's, you know, you're talking about people and neighborhoods that are as close as you can see the neighborhoods behind me.
	You know, it's streets that separate some of these communities that once were Ukraine and now belong to Russia or once were Russia and became Ukraine.
	But the people themselves, the families themselves, the religion, their culture, their identity, very, very similar.
	And so it's a really ugly thing to see firsthand.
	You talk about the generation lost, you know, a million lost, over a million lost.
	It's just, it's tragic.
	Nobody wants it.
	And the, well, I shouldn't say nobody wants it.
	Clearly, President Trump doesn't't want it.
	That's why he's been fighting to end it.
	There are a lot of people that did want it.
	Clearly, in the last administration, we spent billions and billions of dollars to watch more people die.
	And so that's my prayer is that this can end, that we can stop the killing unnecessarily.
	And hopefully it becomes a win win win.
	We'll see what the end holds and what kind of resolution, what kind of peace negotiations they can come up with.
	Obviously, that's the big question.
	Yeah, there's so much hanging in the balance.
	And again, we're talking about the battle of souls here too.
	You know, you have to focus on the soul component too, of the life loss too.
	Well, Ben, you know, you deal so much with our southern border.
	We've seen you down there, Lawn Border.
	So you know a lot about borders and their integrity and how important they are.
	On the Air Force One gaggle earlier, President Trump was asked about territorial land swaps of Russia and Ukraine.
	And maybe we can get this in a quad box since I know we have to keep an eye on Air Force One.
	But let's take a look at this clip from the Gaggle.
	And I want to get your reaction on the other side.
	Are the territorial swaps on the table?
	Will you be discussing that?
	They'll be discussed, but I've got to let Ukraine make that decision.
	And I think they'll make a proper decision.
	But I'm not here to negotiate for Ukraine.
	I'm here to get them at a table.
	And I think you have two sides.
	Look, Vladimir Putin wanted to take all of Ukraine.
	If I wasn't president, he would right now be taking all of Ukraine.
	But he's not going to do it.
	So, Ben, territorial land swaps, is that what you think we could see today?
	Because, you know, Zelenskyy is saying he's not going to give anything else up.
	That's what he says.
	But is this what we could see today as a possible outcome, as a land swap?
	Well, Zelenskyy is in a tough spot.
	I mean, he's put himself in this position.
	He's made a lot of big claims about this.
	And coming back to the last question you asked me about the, you know, the proximity of a lot of these communities.
	There's proximity.
	There's also there's love in some of these communities.
	There's connection to families in some of these communities.
	There's also a lot of hatred.
	There's a disdain for the Russian Empire, for the USSR, for the history of that, for the KGB and what Russia was to a lot of these communities.
	And so there is on the Ukraine side, there are a lot of people that don't want to give up anything, but you're also in a position where if you don't, how many more deaths, how many more lives, how many more young people are you going to lose, how much more of this generation will you not be able to replace?
	So it's clearly, it's on the table.
	How much will they give up?
	I agree with Steve.
	I don't think Russia is going to give back anything that they've taken.
	And the saddest part about this is this really started because of forces, external forces, NATO basically going into Ukraine saying we'll bring you to the table and Russia saying that's a deal break, you're going to start a war.
	And we allowed that to happen.
	We were a part of it under Obama pushing those conversations.
	And now we've seen over a decade of lives lost because of it.
	So when it comes to it, you have to ask the question, what's more important, land or lives?
	And I think that's the big question that's going to be asked and the answer that's going to have to be answered by both sides.
	Yeah, you, I mean, look, you have to respect the Ukrainians.
	They have fought valiantly.
	They fought where people thought that this would end a long time ago.
	And as I mentioned, it seems Zelenskyy is unwilling to yield any further land to Russia.
	But Trump said he's not there to negotiate for Ukraine.
	They've got to make that decision for themselves.
	So do you think that Zelensky is as ready for peace as he stated, or are we going to find some sticking points?
	I don't know what it's taken, how it's taken Zelensky this long to get to this point.
	You know, again, when I was there two years ago, it was clear this was not going to end well.
	I mean, we were getting bombed.
	We were had missiles landing in our neighborhood.
	I mean, I was woken up to a missile landing less than a mile from where I was staying, and I thought, how much longer can this country sustain this?
	And the only reason they stayed in the war, they can continue to fight.
	They continued it was because Joe Biden and the Democrats continued to pump arms into them and all of the globalists that want forever wars kept pumping money and arms into them.
	I think having President Trump at the table not negotiating for Ukraine, simply negotiating for peace, I think Zelensky is in a place where he has to realize this is over.
	He just has to come out, figure out a way of coming out of it with the best option for his country.
	I don't think he, you know, if he's coming into this with the best option for himself, I don't see any good options.
	I agree with Steve.
	I think his political days are numbered, but he's he's simply got to come into it and say, how do I get the most for the people of this country?
	If I, if that's what is his actual intent is, and how do we get out of this thing in the fastest time possible?
	I mean, it's been too long already.
	But I mean, we know, Ben, we can't just like President Trump can't.
	Yeah.
	Well, we've seen, you know, so many we've seen the Ukraine pins.
	We've seen a lot of Democrats voice unending support for Ukraine.
	My question is, okay, we know Vladimir Putin's probably not a guy to trust.
	But is Vladimir Zelensky a guy to trust?
	We saw what happened when he came to DC.
	That didn't work out so well.
	He didn't seem like he came in earnest ready for peace.
	So is this a guy that can be trusted?
	Well, look, I'll say the same thing I said when I went to Ukraine when I was there.
	I don't trust Vladimir Putin any more than I trust Vladimir Zelenskyy any more than I trusted Joe Biden at the time.
	I didn't trust any of them.
	And it's one of those things, it's the trust but verify Reagan model.
	I don't think you trust him at all.
	I think you set some boundaries and you follow those boundaries.
	If you come up with a peace deal, there's got to be some clear boundaries that those will be decided.
	And then if they are broken, then obviously, you know, there's consequences to that.
	But no, short answer is I don't trust any.
	I mean, I trust President Trump, but the other two, I don't trust Putin or Zelensky.
	But they're in a place now where they just have to make a decision for what's best for their country.
	So hopefully they may make that what costs.
	Hopefully we see more consoles.
	more cost will that be?
	Yeah, exactly.
	At what cost will that be?
	Especially because And as Steve Gruber said, Go ahead.
	Well, no, I mean, you look at what President Trump's already doing with Thailand and Cambodia and all of these peace deals that are already going on.
	That's clearly his desire to see peace in the world, to see these countries, you know, not be killing themselves, to see economic prosperity, not just in our country, but globally.
	And so that's my prayer, is for not just that region, but for the entire globe.
	Yeah, and Russia seems to have been winning the war of attrition on this.
	They seem to have been able to outlast it for this particular period of time.
	And there's this idea that Jack Bisobik has spoken about, the reason Trump has been keeping the deadline up and up and up is because if he didn't, Ukraine is going to run out of people.
	They're going to run out of troops.
	And they're just they're on their last thread.
	So that's something we do want to discuss as we continue on here.
	I do think we have Brian Glenn now, who was on Air Force One.
	Brian, can you hear me okay?
	No.
	Hey, Bo, I can hear you.
	I didn't travel on Air Force One this time.
	So I came in yesterday prior to the president just to.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Well, even so, you got there a day earlier.
	Brian, set the scene for us about what's going on right now.
	You know, he said if this meeting goes poorly that it will be in and out and he'll head back to DC.
	He's got your take?
	Do you think this is going to be a two-minute meeting and he's going to turn around and go back, or are you more optimistic?
	I'm a little bit more optimistic than I was maybe six months ago on this.
	I think this these conversations do extend longer than you would think.
	I do am optimistic as far as who's coming with President Putin.
	We've got some business leaders, some business huge financial people in Russia traveling with Putin to come here, which makes me think that there is some type of maybe economic deal that will develop in regards to achieving peace with Russia.
	Let me set the scene for you real quick where I'm at.
	I'm inside the media tent here, just outside where the arena there, the stage, if you will, is right behind me where the two will meet.
	This is kind of a improvised media tent that the military here has set up.
	They've also got kind of a mess hall, if you will, kind of a break room.
	It's got food, snacks, drinks, coffee, things like that.
	So they've really done a good job accommodating the media.
	Now, the amount of media here today is like no other event that I've ever been to, obviously.
	This is just, I would say, hundreds, if you will.
	I'm on the US side, obviously.
	Across from me over there, that is the Russian media.
	They're all, we have two separate areas., two separate work tents, but we're all working together under one tent.
	And of course, I think we all want to see peace come out of this deal a little bit later today.
	What's the feeling like there?
	I know you're on the US media side.
	Could you cut the tension with a Gensu knife at this point?
	You know, I would say everyone's kind of silent.
	You know, we the three hour process it was to get in here as far as going through security, sweeping the buses and things like that.
	It was a process this morning to get here.
	Once the media arrived here, then it was everyone had to find a place to set up, get situated with the staging area behind.
	So it's been a very, very busy last hour and a half.
	So it hasn't been a whole lot of conversations going on.
	A lot of people just trying to get the workspaces up.
	But obviously everyone is, you know, anticipating this meeting.
	Now just moments ago, we heard a plane land.
	I'm assuming it's Air Force One, because he was scheduled to land at 10:10 here local time.
	And it was about 10:10 when that happened.
	So I'm assuming that President Trump is on the ground here.
	Now President Putin is scheduled to land at 11:00 here local time.
	So really probably here in just a few minutes we should hear another plane start to land.
	Once we have these two leaders on the ground, Bo, then they're going to go into a bilateral meeting.
	And as this whole conversation has developed, how long will the meeting last?
	President Trump has said numerous times that he's going to be able to know in the first two minutes or so whether or not President Putin is there to negotiate.
	And of course, Zelenskyy, from all the things that I've read today, a lot of analysis of people who have been following this engagement for a long time say, look, President Zelenskyy doesn't have the cards.
	And that's exactly what was told to him in the Oval Office.
	He simply does not have it.
	And I agree with Steve Gruber.
	His political career is coming to an end.
	I feel like he knows this.
	And I feel like he needs to do what's best one thing that President Trump has said from day one.
	This is not about US lives being lost.
	We don't have one US soldier over there in that fight in that particular capacity.
	Matter of fact, we're making money by selling weapons to NATO on this.
	So this is something he wants to see end to save lives.
	And of course, we want peace in that region.
	I do, however, said, and I do think this is one of the reasons why Putin is here.
	You know, with these sanctions that have been on Russia for so long, and also with the new tariff and the sanctions that have been put on India and any other country selling goods, oil, things like that to Russia, that is a problem.
	That has put them in a financial crisis.
	So I do think Putin is coming here to make a financial deal with the US.
	And we definitely want to make sure that they get, I'm hearing a plane right now.
	I think we have, we've got some Russian media that are making their way through here.
	So I think they've just got the indication that Putin has just landed here at the base.
	But to wrap it up here, as far as the meaning is concerned, I think that we're going to see peace through an economic deal.
	That's just my personal take on it.
	Taking a look at all the financial situations for both of those countries, I think they both want peace.
	I do, but I think they're both giving some economic takeaways as well.
	Well, Brian, it was Air Force One that landed just a couple of moments ago, and our very own Jack Basovic was on Air Force One.
	We do have a clip from him that we want to play right now.
	Let's get that.
	Jack Basovic just landed here, Anchorage, Alaska, Helmorth Air Force Base, Air Force One directly behind me.
	The first plane of the Russian delegation directly across the tarmac, easy to see, waiting for President Trump to disembark.
	Have a full outfit.
	The military delegation here to meet President United States.
	and President of Russia.
	Boy car.
	Well, that's some footage that you don't get to see very often.
	Our very own Jack Basobuk on Air Force One coming up.
	Usually, Brian, it's you.
	And you're the one that painting the scene for us.
	And I guess you can only hear the plane coming in rather than see it.
	But we are keeping an eye on Air Force One.
	President Trump has not disembarked just now.
	I would like you, Brian, to get a reaction from you from some audio from Air Force One earlier in the gaggle.
	Let's take a quick listen to that.
	Possibility of the United States providing security guarantees to Ukraine.
	Maybe.
	Along with Europe and other countries.
	Not in the form of NATO, because that's not going to to, you know, there are certain things that aren't going to happen.
	But, yeah, along with Europe, there's a possibility of that.
	So, Brian, you can hear that Trump says we could provide some security assurances to Ukraine, but not in the form of NATO.
	It seems that NATO must be kept out of all of this for it to be successful, or it may draw Putin's anger.
	What's the prevailing wisdom there with respect to NATO since you mentioned it earlier?
	Yeah, well, I think it does.
	When you kind of look at what that area looks like, I even said this, a post-Trump administration, what does that region of the world look like?
	And I think if they would obviously, I think Zelensky would love to have some type of military, you know, I say military, but if you say support, security, people in that region to make sure that peace is maintained.
	And you think about these raw earth minerals that the deal that we have with Ukraine and far as getting some of the money back that we've put into that country, 380 plus billion dollars.
	So, Bo, there may require some type of security backup for that region, because that is a, you know, it's a very volatile area.
	And so you're going to have, you know, personnel in there mining these rare earth minerals.
	So I think that it's definitely an option.
	I think he just wants NATO to have nothing, you know, nothing with that, and wants that to be on the US.
	But we'll see how that side of negotiation goes.
	And I'm sure that discussion will take place as well.
	And we don't know that those discussions have not already taken place.
	Or if you remember, Beau, just a few days ago, President Trump had a phone call with European leaders and Zelenskyy to talk about several things.
	So maybe this was a part of it.
	He was very, very tight chested on what they talked about.
	Yeah.
	And you know, Brian, I do want to get your reaction to this too.
	And I don't know if you've seen it yet.
	But Hillary Clinton, of all people, said that she would nominate Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize if he can put an end to this war if Ukraine doesn't have to cede any more territory.
	Now, isn't this rich?
	that this comes from a woman who started RussiaGate and said we came, we saw, he died.
	What are your thoughts on that claim and coming from a warmonger like her who has no regard for human life?
	Most likely, we have no respect for human life.
	The next time I see Hillary Clinton, I wanted to be in front of an oversight committee on her testimony for what with the Russia, Russia, RussiaGate.
	I don't care what she has to say right now.
	I think it's I think what she's trying to do is reach for a headline, any type of positive headline.
	The approval ratings right now for Democrats is at a historically low.
	So for Hillary Clinton or any Democrat to come out right now and start pushing for this peace Nobel Peace Prize.
	They're just trying to grab some type of positivity in connotation to their party.
	So I, you know, I want to see her in the oversight committee for the collusion and all that stuff that they, they mustered up and pedaled to the media.
	That's where I want to see her speak.
	But other than that, I'm glad that she's had a come to Jesus moment.
	But Hillary Clinton can sit down and shut up right now.
	President Trump is in charge of all this.
	Well, yeah, not only that, but what she's proposing is something Trump could actually pull off.
	So I think she might have put her foot in her mouth a little bit.
	Brian, we are waiting President Putin to touch down.
	Once he lands, we're going to have some sort of basically ceremonial handshake, a little bit of a meeting, and then they're going to go into this meeting that you talked about, this bilateral meeting.
	How long do you think and I know there's no way you know this, but how long do you think that meeting could take?
	You know, Vladimir Putin said it could be six hours.
	He's just that's kind of his way of saying things.
	President Trump says he'll know within about thirty seconds whether he's serious or not.
	How long do you think that meeting will go?
	And do you think he'll give a pressor to you and all the other reporters there after it's over?
	I do think, you know, the press conference has scheduled here.
	There's two podiums on there.
	I wish we had a chance of that.
	I don't know if we could take the White House poll feed.
	There's a chance of that.
	Because right now there are two podiums set up, obviously for President Putin and President Trump.
	Now, if this initial conversation, after the, you know, handoff, the welcoming at the tarmac, when they go into their meeting, if there's any indication that President Trump feels like there's not going to be a deal, there's no need to move forward, then I don't think you'll see President Putin behind that podium.
	That's just me.
	I don't think President Trump's going to give him the opportunity to be in front of the world like that.
	I think President Trump would pump the brakes on that and just say, Thanks for coming.
	We're going to move on.
	But I don't think that's going to happen.
	I really don't.
	But you know, Trump showing me that there are two podiums.
	There are two podiums side by side, meaning the anticipation, or maybe the optimism, is that these two leaders will stand side by side and address the media after it?
	They're correct.
	They're about six feet apart.
	There's two podiums that the flag is behind the podium.
	So this is a build up of an anticipated press conference with both of them.
	But I know this for a fact, that if this meeting doesn't go well, you will only see one president behind that podium, and that will be President Trump.
	Wow.
	Well, Brian, I want to give you a sports analogy because I know you and I have talked sports before.
	Marianne Rivera, the great closer of the New York Yankees, is.
	Is Trump the Mariana Rivera of this deal?
	Is he the guy who can get this done for a time like this?
	He is.
	You might even throw a Nolan Ryan there too.
	He'll throw a fastball inside high and inside on any batter.
	So I think that he would be compared to a closer, but also would compare to him to someone that's going to throw the meanest, hardest fastball that you would ever face.
	That's what this is.
	But that's what it takes.
	If you look at the foreign policy under Joe Biden and really any other Republican president, this is something we haven't seen in the Republican Party in a long time.
	And it is strength.
	And I think that the warmongers of DC and the military industrial complex are going to have to check themselves for a little bit.
	This is not a war that we want to get into.
	This is a war that we want to end.
	This is Biden's war.
	Biden started this war, not President Trump.
	Now, I know campaign promise, Bo, He did say on day one he would stop this war.
	And a lot of people on the left, the Democrats love to criticize and say, well, it didn't happen on day one.
	Whatever happened.
	You over promised.
	Can you really do it?
	And we've had several conversations about that.
	But this is it today.
	And it has to happen today.
	We must have progress today.
	Or I do think if this thing does go south in a couple of hours, I don't think you're going to see I think we are going to fold our cards, wal, walk away, cut bait, however you want to say it.
	We'll be done with this conflict and they'll just leave up to these two leaders to what, sadly, more people will die.
	At the end of the day, this is to stop the war that's going on right now.
	He often says, this is not about American lives, this is about human lives on Ukraine and Russia side.
	We must stop the bloodshed and that's all he wants to do today.
	But I will say this, I think it's an economic opportunity for everyone right now, an economic opportunity for everyone right now, and peace will be the result of that.
	Yeah, well, I want to bring back in our panel now, our previous guests, Steve Gruber and Ben Bergwoman.
	Of course, we got Brian Glenn, who we just heard from.
	Gentlemen, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here, but we've seen President Trump broker peace deals already, which have earned him some Nobel Prize nominations.
	Stevie and I talked about that earlier, whether it's Rwanda and the Congo, Cambodia and Thailand, Israel and Hamas, India and Pakistan, or Armenia and Azerbaijan.
	If he can do it, he seems to be a lot closer to that.
	But as Brian said, the stakes are very high.
	He kind of has to deliver on that.
	So I know he's giving himself about a 75% chance of that happening.
	So Steve, I want to bring you back in here and just say, you know, I know there's got to be a lot of personal pressure he's putting on himself to do this, to get this done, because it was, as B Brian mentioned, a campaign promise.
	He said it would be done in a day.
	That hasn't happened.
	But at the same time, there's a lot of promise that he can get it done.
	What do you think is on his shoulders today to get this done?
	Well, clearly he wants the success here.
	Clearly he wants this to happen.
	He has been angling for this from the time that he was campaigning up to November of 2024, as you know, it was one of the routine things he said during his rallies along the way that he could get the war stopped in a day.
	Look, that was campaign hyperbole.
	We understand that.
	And he has worked diligently ever since.
	And you forgot Egypt and Ethiopia, by the way, another little conflict that he stopped.
	But there are seven on the board, all right?
	I mean, that's a remarkable accomplishment for any president in eight years, right?
	This is in two hundred days.
	This is an incredible accomplishment.
	He has brought Vladimir Putin to Alaska, the former Russian territory.
	It is incredible.
	As we sit here and we watch Air Force One waiting for the president to emerge, it is an incredible accomplishment.
	I do believe if he does this.
	And again, at the top of the broadcast, I said, I'm an optimist.
	A poll I saw said 59% of Americans do not believe that he can do it.
	I'm of the mind that he can, because that's what Donald Trump has done for two hundred days, is stop war, stop conflict, and stop killing.
	And I think he's going to do it again today.
	Maybe not done today, but we'll take a great step forward.
	And Ben, let's talk about some of the geopolitics of this as well.
	I teased this with Steve earlier when we had him on, just in terms of, let's look at how China is going to look at this, because they've, you know, they've got a relationship with Russia.
	Obviously, Russia has been an ally of ours before, but you look at what China wants to do with Taiwan.
	They may be looking at this summit today saying, hmm, if it goes well for Donald Trump and for Vladimir Putin, maybe we shouldn't be toying around with Taiwan so much.
	If it goes poorly and we bug out and we go home, maybe they say, hmm, maybe we should go take a closer look at bringing Taiwan back into our own fold.
	How do you see this?
	Because see, I see this as having much bigger implications than just between Russia and Ukraine today.
	How do you see that in terms of what China could do, what the CCP could do with respect to Taiwan?
	Well, clearly, I mean, that's the part of the decision-making that China is making.
	You look at what we had under the first four years of President Trump, no new wars.
	And you saw what we had under Joe Biden, endless wars, new wars, conflict everywhere because we didn't have that.
	There was that power vacuum in the world.
	President Trump seals that.
	He's the one who comes in and is that stabilizing force globally.
	You'll have the left.
	What's crazy is you think about this.
	President Trump is ending these wars.
	We've got peace around the globe.
	Hopefully we have peace between Ukraine and Russia.
	But the chaos we see is actually on on the streets of the United States.
	This is what's worrying me.
	You've got, you know, you asked about China.
	We have more communists now in America that are trying to turn America communist.
	Those are the enemies that I'm really worried about and going back to our own border.
	You know, You think about we've been talking about Ukraine's border and Russia's border.
	Well, we just gave up our border for four years.
	President Trump is the one who came in, secured our border, and I believe he's the only one globally that can help bring peace, not just to Ukraine and Russia, but globally, because he is that stabilizing force that other countries look at and say, well, if we do that, we're screwed, because this guy is actually going to come and actually do what he says.
	He's got the power and look, he's got the track record to prove it.
	And that's, I think, what we're seeing today.
	Hopefully, we see an end to this conflilict.
	And China, you know, they have to look at that and recognize that.
	And I think we saw that in the first four years.
	I think we're going to see that in these four as well.
	Brian, you mentioned earlier that there are some Russian businessmen that are coming with Vladimir Putin today.
	What sort of financial package or economic incentives do you think that President Trump can dangle in front of them that would incentivize them?
	And potentially, could we see a reentry into the G8 in terms of becoming a trading partner with them?
	I think you just nailed it.
	I think that's exactly what I'm thinking is going to happen.
	Imagine if he was to say, President Putin, we are going to.
	lift all sanctions against your country.
	We want you to be a strong, vibrant partner with the US.
	We have one of the two biggest economies in the world.
	Let's get back to doing business together.
	Let's get that in the G8.
	Let's get everything unified.
	I think opening up the US markets and opening up trade among the two countries would build a trust again.
	I think it would also give Putin a financial motivation to do a negotiation in Ukraine in terms of this war.
	I think it stops through economic policy.
	I really do.
	I think that I think at the end of the day, both sides are tired of the bloodshed.
	There's no doubt about that.
	I mean, there's reports coming out of Ukraine where they've got seniors and they're taking people that are 60 years and older to fight and people that have certain handicaps.
	I mean, they're down to that recruitment level, so they don't have any more, I think, a whole lot of fight left in them on this.
	But if we can do some type of economic deal that would open up opportunities within the US, between the two countries, does that that might offset, you know, that might offset a little bit of what he is looking to do in Ukraine.
	So I know it's complicated.
	It's multi layers on it.
	But I do think it comes through economic policy that stops this war.
	And of course, Ukraine with the mineral rights have been one of the things they've negotiated back.
	So we'll see.
	But, you know, he's traveling with some economic and business leaders from Russia, so I'm kind of reading into that as well of who's coming with them.
	And also who's coming with President Trump as well.
	I think that's important to note of those involved with with him on Air Force One.
	Scott Besant, right?
	He's with him.
	Yeah?
	Yeah?
	So that says something.
	That says something about a potential business deal in the making.
	Steve, I just want to ask you straight up because I think to get into the mind of Vladimir Putin is difficult.
	He's a Russian KGB guy.
	Is President Putin really looking for peace today?
	Or do you think he thinks he can just hold out because the war of attrition is on his side?
	He knows Ukraine is bleeding troops.
	He is too, but not to the extent.
	Is he really looking for peace today?
	Well, you've raised a good question there, Beau.
	Look, his economic outlook for his country is not good.
	Him recruiting people to be in the Russian army right now, not good.
	This has been tiring.
	Look, this is fatigue.
	at this point, three and a half years on.
	Vladimir Putin would like a way out of this war as well, I believe.
	It would loosen the purse strings from America and Eastern and Western Europe on his country.
	The sanctions would be lifted.
	The energy could flow again.
	His oil could go more freely to China and elsewhere without the restrictions and the global sanctions that are in place.
	Look, Donald Trump has made it clear that if there is not a deal put together here, it will be very difficult for Vladimir Putin to move forward economically.
	And look, the country is already impoverished.
	This war has cost them billions of dollars and in thousands of lives.
	We know that the cost in life and treasure has been very very high for Russia.
	So, can I get into the mind of Vladimir Putin?
	No, he's a snake.
	He's a wolf.
	He's out there trying to eat the chickens.
	That's what he's been trying to do.
	And let's be honest, Vov, Let's go back to February of 2022.
	Most people, myself for sure, anticipated that this war would go about two weeks, maybe three, maybe four at most, because we felt that Russia, being the most powerful army in that part of the world, would run over Ukraine.
	It didn't.
	They found a lot of problems with corruption and so forth.
	Their MREs, their meals ready to eat, were contaminated because they were past their deadline by not just a few days, but by a few years.
	Their ammunition didn't work.
	We saw their tanks getting destroyed.
	Their military is not at all what what we imagined it to be.
	That's an embarrassment for the Russians.
	And I don't believe they're ever going to Poland or anywhere else in Europe because I don't think they have the capability.
	I think we've seen that.
	The scary thing, the wild card, of course, is that they have the biggest, biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.
	I don't think Vladimir Putin would use it, not at this point.
	You have to assume that your enemy is rational.
	That's part of the art of war.
	You have to know that your enemy is rational.
	I believe if nothing else, he is rational.
	And what good would it do him to launch some sort of a nuclear offensive?
	So the best exit for Vladimir Putin is to take Crimea.
	It's to take the Donbass and whatever pieces of real estate he can take off the eastern edge of Ukraine.
	We returned Russian territory because he believes it is.
	He believes it's Russian territory.
	Return it to the Russian Federation and hang on to it and put that on the mantle as his prize.
	I think he'd like to bow out of this gracefully.
	And look, everything's on the table if he does not economically speaking.
	And we'll see where it goes from here.
	We know that Donald Trump has pushed NATO into investing in its military in all the countries Germany, France, the UK and so forth.
	Donald Trump has done several key things.
	He's increased spending by NATO to what they agreed to originally.
	He's held Russia to where they are without them going further.
	And I do believe what he says.
	If not for Donald Trump, this war would be going a lot more aggressively towards Russia.
	It's been a stalemate, is a fair way to put it.
	I don't know where Vladimir Putin is going.
	He's come to Alaska.
	I think that's a step in the right direction.
	And like everyone else here on the panel today, I'm hopeful, I'm praying that we can find peace in Ukraine today.
	And Ben, from the American perspective, let's go America MAGA style right now.
	I mean, for me, this is a win just by getting Putin to come to the table.
	Steve and I said, you know, a week ago, this wasn't even this was on nobody's dan had detractors and he has people doubting him every single day, but he's negotiated all these peace deals up until this point.
	I know a lot is on his shoulders, but what is success look like to us?
	Let's take a look right now.
	Putin's plane is landing right now in Anchorage.
	We're taking a look at that live right now.
	He is right on time.
	Putin is traditionally not on time for things, but he is on time, if not four minutes early.
	It is 3 p.m. Eastern time, I believe about 11 a.m. in Alaska right now.
	So we're taking a look at that plane land right now of Vladimir Putin.
	And shortly we will see the summit of these two leaders.
	And as Steve said, prayerfully, we're hoping that some great things will come out of this.
	So Ben, from the American perspective, what's success today for Donald Trump?
	I think it's successful.
	He even got this meeting to begin with.
	Is a second meeting success?
	Well, I think from the MAGA base standpoint, ending our dollars being spent on killing any other country's countrymen is the only success.
	The ultimate success that we're looking for is taking our dollars out of continuing these wars and putting them back into the wars that matter our own southern border, our own country, defeating the enemies within our own country, increasing our economic benefit.
	But I think there's also economic benefits that Brian Glenn brought up, that Steve Ruber brought up, that you brought up, that Jack's been talking about.
	All of this, you know, the idea that we can just pump money into these countries year after year after year endlessly, our own dollars, our own tax dollars, when our countries and our cities are going broke.
	You drive across California and it's bums everywhere.
	You got illegals everywhere.
	Why are we wasting any more of our own money?
	If anything, we need to be making money.
	We need to be creating deals.
	And again, you got the art of the deal there with Vladimir Putin.
	I don't think, I think success means the end of the war, but also economic benefitsfit for the United States, primarily between these countries, both with Russia.
	Hopefully, again, I agree with Steve.
	I don't trust Putin.
	You keep him at arm's length.
	You use sanctions when they're necessary.
	But if we can create some trade deals, great.
	Let's do it.
	And the same with Ukraine.
	Look at ways that, but every single one of these decisions, every single problem that President Trump faces needs to be looked at through the lens.
	And I believe he looks at it through this lens of what is best for the American citizens, what is best for our people, for our country.
	That's why it's America First.

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