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Zelensky’s Last Stand - Can Ukraine Survive Until Trump’s Deadline For Russia?

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We're seeing now political turmoil over in Ukraine as Russian forces continue to storm the eastern cities.
We talked a lot last week or throughout this week about how Russian forces were taking the city of Pokrovsk in on the eastern flanks, this being a key city that could potentially connect them down the highway directly to the Dneva River and then on down to Kiev.
We had Colonel Douglas McGregor on yesterday talking about this.
And now we see wake up this morning and find that the battle being told that the battle for Chasivyar has now ended in 17 months.
17 different different articles say it differently.
I'll see some that say 16 months, 17 months, 18 months.
An incredibly bloody war, an incredibly bloody battle amidst an incredibly bloody war.
You're looking at places where these were firefights going house to house, building to building, apartment to apartment, balcony to balcony, basement to basement.
No surrenders, no surrenders on the Eastern Front.
This is a Slavic war, different kind of war.
And Russia is now saying that they have total control of the city of Chasivyar.
Why is this important?
Because this is a city, by the way, this was seen as a fortress of the East in the Donetsk region.
This was seen as a place where they thought there was no way, no way that, or excuse me, Donbass Reason, the Russian troops would ever be able to take one of these fortress cities.
And there are four of the fortress cities, Chasivyar, which is the highest ground in Donetsk, and then the other three, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, and Konstantinetka.
And with this control, that's what's leading now to a lot of the political turmoil that you're seeing in Ukrainian parliament.
Now, they're saying, okay, well, this is really just about this corruption bill.
And there were these protests all throughout last week.
I've been to that parliament.
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But the Sydney, the Sweeney apocalypse, the Sweeney apocalypse continues.
And all it seems of left-wing social media is just absolutely erupted in terms of this.
Some of it, I think, is a little bit performative, but I think some of it is actually quite earnest.
One advertisement by a blonde-haired, blue-eyed young woman has caused them all to lose their minds.
And they also claim that it is political, which is very interesting.
So I wanted to bring on Avita Duffy, who we all love, my favorite anti-communist, to walk through all of this with us.
Evita, how are you?
Doing good.
Thanks for having me, Jack.
Avita, I have to ask, what color are your jeans?
Oh my goodness.
I wear dark jeans.
No, it's true.
I do.
But I think it's a crazy story, Jack.
I mean, you can't, apparently, if you're a white person, you can't have good genes.
That's what the left-wing outrage mob is saying in reaction to this entire ad, right?
If you are a white person, you're blonde with blue eyes.
That somehow means that you're not able to brag about your genetics, which is actually in and of itself extremely racist.
Yeah, what's interesting to me, and I was talking about this yesterday on Thought Crime with Charlie Kirk and the gang.
And I said, wait a minute, she doesn't mention anything about race.
She just talks about how genes work.
She says, and everybody knows this, by the way, eye color, hair color, and yes, skin color too.
It is all genetic, passed on from parents to their children.
We all learned this.
We should hopefully learn this, you know, when we're in, you know, we're in grade school or high school.
But even then, you know, you can also just see it in real life.
Parents look like they're kids, grandparents look like they're, it's very simple.
And so she never once said anything about like, you know, one group is better than another group because of their genes, but we did say that hers are great.
Right.
And I mean, Jack, if you look at me, right, I have dark hair and dark eyes, and I can say I have great genes too.
And I don't think Sidney Sweeney would disagree with that.
It's really not even about race, but because it's a blonde, blue-eyed person, they made it about race because they hate white people.
That's one component of this.
And the other thing I'll say, Jack, is I think that they just hate beauty.
There is an objective truth to beauty.
Theologians, Catholic theologians like Thomas Aquinas, have talked about this, that it is, there is an order to it.
If you look at the Fibonacci sequence or the golden ratio, and for some reason, the political left, postmodernists, especially, seem to hate beauty.
And I actually think that this point, Jack, transcends race, because if you look at the types of black women that the left tries to applaud, what is that?
There's a statue in Times Square of a Black woman.
She's not an exceptionally beautiful black woman.
The woman is obese.
So there is also a hatred of white people.
And there's also, I think, a hatred of beauty and femininity and objective truth that underlies true beauty at the core of this entire outrageous reaction to the Sydney Sweeney ad.
Yeah, I mean, it's completely ridiculous because what they're doing, and you go back to what American Eagle was posting in 2019 with these same obese black women, people were looking at it and they spent billions of dollars.
And not just American Eagle, but various companies saying, this is beautiful.
You must like that.
I mean, you know, ugliness is beauty.
War is peace.
Great fiction is reality.
And they were just over and over and over, we were living in that world.
But we know, we know the truth.
We know there's a reason.
Look, there's a reason that people from all around the world go to visit Rome and this stuff that was designed 2,000 years ago on classical designs is amazing.
It holds up.
It is one of the wonders of the world.
Everybody goes there because it is objectively incredible and it is objectively beautiful.
That's what you're talking about.
By the way, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that President Trump, as it turns out, I think just announced that since you mentioned classic design there for a second, well, you mentioned Aquinas, but Catholic classic design is exactly who was chosen to do this new huge remodel of the White House on the Eastern wing of it, really transforming it into a ballroom.
But we're kind of talking about the same, they say, well, how does that relate to Sidney Sweeney?
We're talking about the same thing, though, aren't we?
Yeah, we are.
Jack, it's such a great point because what the left will do, the postmodernists will do is they'll say there's, there's beauty is relative.
And so you can't say that the Sistine Chapel is more beautiful than a shamanistic little altar in Guatemala.
But of course, there is a hierarchy to beauty.
There is order to beauty.
And they want you to deny that.
And they tried to do it for a long time.
You're right with all of these ads saying fat is beautiful.
And they had all these obese models and they tried to shove that down our throat.
The same with postmodern architecture, these brutalist, awful Buildings that, by the way, oftentimes are funded by our tax dollars, especially in Washington, D.C. There's a distinction between the older architecture and the newer stuff that's come out.
And people hate it.
And they have, they shut it down our throats for a few years.
And now there is a revival, a pushback to say, no, there is an order, an objectivity to beauty, and we want it back in our culture because this is the West and it's Christian and we believe in promoting it.
Whether that applies to women and dress or it applies to architecture, it's all the same conversation.
And we're taking it back.
And the fact that American Eagle, a brand that really just cares about dollars and cents, is responding to this cultural backlash is a really positive sign that we are actually making strides.
I think it is.
And I also think it's funny that they would do things like this, right?
Go back to, and this is five years ago, not a long time.
They would post things like the 2019 ads.
And they would, and then people would, like us, would go on social media and we would criticize them and they would say, oh, look how upset you are.
Look how upset you are over just an ad.
And it's like, wait a minute.
No, it's not just an ad.
It is a political propaganda campaign that you are trying to foist upon all of us on our eyes, on our ears, on our minds, on our children.
You are the one spreading this around everywhere.
And you're spending millions and in some cases, billions of dollars to do this.
And it's ridiculous.
It's wrong.
It's obviously unhealthy.
You're promoting these insane things.
And we have every right to put it over.
And by the way, I just got to say, you know, it's like they spent millions of dollars and they were not able to stop young men from liking girls who look like Sidney Sweeney.
Like, it ain't going to happen.
It ain't going to happen.
No, and Jack, and if you look at the people that subscribe to this ideology, the ones that buy in and believe that beauty and morality are all subjective and everything is relative, they don't look like happy people.
And in fact, they are not happy people.
The least happy demographic in this country are single left-wing women.
Like objectively, they are.
They are not happy.
They're not healthy.
They're not thriving.
And I think if you just look at who is happy and who's thriving, it is the people that embrace tradition, that believe in objective truth and morality and the Western tradition.
And this is actually what the culture is swinging back toward, which I think is a wonderful, positive thing.
We aren't buying into the lie anymore.
Yeah, that's one thing where I'll always say that it's interesting being married to, and you've met Tanya, but being married to someone from outside of the West, in a sense, like from Eastern Europe.
So she's not born with all of these like rules and conditions that we have to be, that we have to live under.
Don't you dare tell someone that they don't look good.
Don't you dare say that, you know, this person is good looking, where she'll just come in and say, she's fat.
She's just too fat.
Get her out of here.
We don't need that.
Not like to their face, but you know what I mean?
Like she would just, she would just say it.
Whereas in the West, I feel like we are mentally programmed and conditioned to believe this.
And look, this is the root of it.
It shows the root of all of this.
And you could say leftism.
You can say leftist politics, but what it really comes down to is envy.
What it really comes down to is taking the sin of envy, one of the seven deadly sins, and turning it into a political system.
And that is what leftism is.
It can only tear down.
It cannot create.
It can only destroy.
It can never build.
And so what do they want to do?
They want to take the Sydney Sweeneys of the world and destroy them.
And Jack, it's like, what are they telling young women, especially, right?
You can be obese and you can wait and prolong marriage until you're in your 30s or even your 40s and my body, my choice.
And it's supposed to, it's pitched as this idea that's so great for women.
You'll be happy.
You'll be liberated.
We're looking out for you.
And of course, they're not looking out for them.
They're actually the enemies of these women who buy into this ideology and then turn out miserable.
I mean, they are, I mean, left-wing women, frankly, are victims of a culture that has completely lied to them.
And I think if you look at Sydney Sweeney, you're like, oh, this is fascist.
This is Nazism.
Maybe actually it's a sign that you should hit the gym and look good and be your best self and also be a hot woman in your 20s.
I don't understand why we're telling young women who are in their prime, don't look good, don't dress well, don't self-present in a positive, beautiful way.
It is totally detrimental to the culture, but of course, to the individuals who are susceptible to this ideology.
That's exactly right, because there's two way, right?
And we can all feel that, right?
When you see something like a Roman palace or a temple and you think, oh my gosh, it's so credible.
And you could think, why don't I live in a city like that?
Why don't I live in a culture like that?
And you could think, well, maybe I could make my culture better and maybe I could make my civilization better, my city better.
Or maybe you think, I want to destroy it.
I want to tear it down.
I want to tear it limb from limb.
And so so much of politics is really just that, trying to determine which side you're on and what type of person you are.
And the more I think about this idea, I think it drives everything.
It drives all of our politics.
It drives everything from the top to the bottom.
It really is just envy and the hatred of the fact that I'm sorry, natural ability exists.
Natural talent exists.
There are going to be people that look better than others.
There are going to be people that are smarter than others.
It is what it is.
And these people, they just can't handle it, can they, Vita?
No, they can't.
And Jack, can I just, beauty is uplifting.
Like, why?
I mean, we're talking about women, but I think the architecture point is so good because it broadens this out.
We are, if you, if you go around, if you walk around Washington, D.C., where we have a lot of public buildings, you will see the newer ones that are just awful and they're depressing and they bring you down.
And then you look at the traditional architecture, which is actually rooted in, I think, the true tradition of the West, and it makes you feel happier.
Like it uplifts you.
It broadens your horizons to where you're thinking about things beyond just like yourself and the mundane.
But it's civilizationalists.
I try so hard to stay out of those.
Vita, we got to run.
I'm so sorry.
Guys, go follow Vita W underscore one at X and all the platforms right back to Inventory.
Talk about influencers.
These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
Jack, where's Shelby?
Where's Jack?
He's got a breakdown.
all right Jack Pasovic here, Human Events Daily.
We're on with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer joining us.
Tony, thanks for coming back to the program once again.
Good to be here, Jack.
Well, Tony, look, you came on here, I think, four or five months ago, and you said that the end of July is what we were going to be looking for for Russia to really close the trap when it comes to eastern Ukraine, those Russian-speaking provinces.
And that's exactly what we're seeing.
Not only Pakross, that major, major logistics hub, cutting the supply lines for Ukraine there, but now Chalsevyar, one of the key four, what they call the fortress cities of Ukraine, has now, and you could see this up, Reuters has it, CNN has it.
They're saying this entire city, massive, really this, this, you know, and so much of this, this is it's farmland, right?
You know, I remember from being there, but Chalsevyara was one of the heights that's able to command huge swaths of land from up there.
Very, very hard to defend.
And yeah, Reuters, there it is with the peace.
Russia claims capture of Chasivyar after 16-month battle.
Tony Schaefer, what are we seeing?
Why didn't any of the West see this?
Because they're not actually looking at the reality and the facts as they are.
They're projecting their aspirational thinking as news.
This is kind of a trait.
You and I are intelligence officers, and I think we all, Jack, we have our political leanings, no doubt.
We have our aspirations, but there has to be a separation, I think, for intelligence officers and reporters, just saying, where you can separate out your advocacy for a side and say, yeah, it's not working.
It's not going to work.
And when we last spoke on this topic, you know, a few months ago, it's like I understood three things.
First, there was a diminishing supply, you know, logistics support from us.
It's on a downward slope.
I don't see it picking back up.
Those things in the supply chain were going to be more and more reduced, and they have been.
Secondly, there was no way Ukraine was going to be able to establish a pipeline of manning to continue to hold these fortress cities and maintain the defense.
They just can't.
It's not numerically possible.
And again, the Russian process of combat and attrition has been effective.
And there was nothing to stand in the way of that.
And of course, third and most important, the Russians themselves have said, we're not going to back down.
Putin has said, I think a number of officials have said, yeah, if there's not a peace agreement, you're going to have to start worrying more about more than us taking the four provinces.
We're going to look at taking even more.
And I think that's what's happening here.
And with the fall of these cities, Jack, nothing is going to be left in the way of the Russians, if they so choose, to go towards a complete partition of Ukraine where they basically roll up to the Dnepara.
I don't think they want all of Ukraine.
They don't want to deal with the Western side and the counterinsurgency they deal with, but they're more than happy to go into areas which they think they can control and have the population essentially respond favorably to their occupation or whatever you care to call it.
So these are the facts as they are, not as I think others, to include the neocons here in the United States, were projecting into the media and the media was reporting as fact.
You know, and you see some of this stuff, and then they'll come out and say, we need to supply more.
We need to go more.
What I've said is I don't think there's a military way out of this for Ukraine.
I don't see one.
Do you see one?
Because at the end of the day, the only option, of course, which they could do, it's not a technological or an armament issue.
It's a manpower issue.
So the only option then would be for NATO to get involved, which of course creates much, much bigger problems.
I said within the first three months of the war, if you go back and find some of those interviews, I probably did here on your network and on Newsmax, that there was never going to be a time that the Ukrainians would have anywhere near a numeric, even equivalent to the Russian available army, armed forces, the personnel.
And I said then there was no way that the Ukrainians would prevail without an outside third source coming in to help them.
And that would have to be either the European Union, which would be kind of a joke, but okay, or NATO.
NATO is a military force.
And that would be the only way there could be an effective countering of the numeric superiority of the Russians.
So from day one, this was doomed, especially the way the Biden administration's kind of incrementally, incrementally given them weapons.
Hope is not a strategy, Jack.
And that's what they were just kind of throwing things in there, hoping for the best.
And so I think this has gone on longer than I expected.
But with that said, the Russians have a great appetite for pain, for suffering.
Even though their economy may not be booming, it's not doing badly.
They're shrugging off all the new 18th round of sanctions from the Europeans.
There is no military solution that's available to the Ukrainians in this regard at this point.
I saw Putin was meeting with Lukashenko of Belarus today, and he was asked about the fact that Zelensky is now calling for full regime change in Russia and saying that that's what they want.
And Putin's response was, well, I see that he's not interested in negotiating that right now, but that's okay.
We can wait.
We can wait.
Right, because they're the ones who are pounding forward on the ground.
It's Zelensky who's running out of time.
And I think that's basically what he's playing at there.
No, I think at the end of the day, though, it's not going to be between Ukraine and Russia.
It's got to be between Russia and the United States.
That's where all this started.
That's what this absolutely comes down to.
And I think the United States is Kind of fed up with Zelensky.
You know, there's rumors now, fairly well informed.
I think the Financial Times has done an article on the fact that the West is looking to dump Zelensky and that the Zaluzni, General Zeluzni, Ambassador Zaluznik, who's currently the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, is kind of being looked at as the potential replacement, which by the way, John.
He's on the cover of Vogue magazine.
He's over doing a huge, huge photo spread with Zeluzhny right now.
And you have to wonder, you just have to wonder how How Zelensky's taking a look at that.
I say, wait, why is he getting the vote cover?
I thought that was my cover.
I don't know.
Tony, you've been spot on, man.
We've got to run for this day, but I just wanted to give you that opportunity to populate here and give us the update and to point out that, hey, you know who had this right?
It wasn't all of Western media.
It was Tony Schaefer.
Where can people follow you, brother?
Well, thanks.
Hello, just follow me on X. You know, you and I are on there doing interesting things in projectsentinel.com.
And it's always a pleasure, Jack, to join you.
And thanks for having me.
I look forward to future discussions on what's coming.
Absolutely appreciate it.
No, we're going to have to do a deep dive coming up soon.
Jack Pasovic coming back here.
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Thank you.
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New book is out from author John Lake and co-authored by the great Peter McCullough, Dr. Peter McCullough.
Of course, you guys all know him.
The title is Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
And we've got John Lake here joining us.
John, how are you?
Fine, fine.
Thank you, Jack.
Delighted to be here.
We're excited to have you.
This is a topic that the audience, of course, is very, very concerned with.
So I think they're going to be absolutely interested in hearing about your new book.
Of course, they're all going to want to go and get a copy.
Tell us, why did you decide to write this book now?
And what do you go into when we're talking about this question of where did vaccines come from?
Peter McCullough and I have been working together for the last four years.
We wrote our first book together about the initial stage of the pandemic response, the suppression of early treatment.
We perceived that the suppression of early treatment for COVID-19 was a gambit to prepare the public, not just in the United States, but throughout the West, Australia, pretty much the whole world, for a mass vaccination campaign using a new vaccine technology, this molecular biology gene transfer product, synthetic messenger RNA.
And we noticed a kind of universal zeal.
Bill Gates came on a news program in April of 2020 in which he said, mankind will only be able to go back to normal when essentially everyone on earth receives the new COVID-19 vaccine, which was remarkable because it had not even been developed and tested at the time.
It was a kind of foregone conclusion in his mind that it would soon arrive and that every man, woman, and child on earth would receive it.
And there would be no reason for any exceptions to receiving this.
And we noticed the way Mr. Gates was talking about it.
It was as though this new vaccine, not yet developed, was going to appear like a liberator and a savior of mankind from this pestilence that had stricken the world.
And we thought, this is such an extraordinary ambition that doesn't even seem particularly scientific.
It almost seems to come out of science fiction.
And there's an underlying zeal or even fanaticism that struck us as being almost religious in nature.
So we asked ourselves, when did mankind become so charmed?
When did mankind fall in love with vaccines, the vaccine concept?
Let's go look at the early roots of this.
I studied history for 40 years.
And so that's what we did.
We went back to the first inoculation campaign, the smallpox outbreak in Boston, Massachusetts in 1721.
The foremost advocate for smallpox inoculation was Clotton Mather.
He was a famous Puritan minister in Boston at the time, consulting theologian for the Salem witch trials.
And Mather said, the new inoculation procedure is a gift from God.
Those who don't reject God's benefaction are sort of reprobate.
Everyone should accept this great blessing and benefaction from God.
And from the early pronouncement of that in Boston in 1721, all the way until 2021, we document how vaccines do have this kind of metaphysical fascination for the human mind.
And the enterprise is very much one of orthodoxy.
They work, they're safe, they're effective.
Everyone should get them and no exceptions.
And if you don't get it, if you raise any questions about it, then you shall be excommunicated.
And we saw this so often.
You know, John, I just got to say, when you mentioned Bill Gates, it just brought me back.
You know, this is this, I'm so, And so many people are so upset about what Dr. Fauci did to this country.
And this is exactly what you're saying.
He took this orthodoxy, this theology, and he pushed it upon everyone, specifically on mothers and their children.
He directly, and I remember this time that I was at a pharmacy in Washington, D.C. on the Capitol Hill, and I had to, I was just picking up some cough drops or something, and I saw this line of people with their kids.
And they would take them in the back, and these kids would be screaming about, and they're all getting the shot.
It was all clotshot.
And that I had to walk out.
I didn't even make the purchase.
I just had to, I had to walk out.
And this, this Fauci thing, the pardon, which obviously wasn't even signed by Joe Biden, it's all got to be looked at.
And I really hope that this is something that when people read your book, it'll give them the ammunition to fight back about what he did to this country.
Well, I would add to that that something that's not yet understood by many is that the chapter is called the bioterror racket or the bio-defense racket.
And so the idea starting around, well, it really began with the emergence of the first SARS coronavirus in 2002, 2003, a sort of fascination with coronaviruses as having enormous pandemic potential.
Influenza had failed to deliver yet another terrible pandemic like what we saw in 1918.
There was a feeling that maybe influenza was not going to be the great terror that influenza specialists had been warning about for decades.
So a fascination grew up with coronaviruses.
And what we've discovered, and certainly Anthony Fauci was aware of it, was that it was really American biotechnicians, Ralph Barrick at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill being the most prominent and the most capable, began manipulating coronaviruses.
And there's a long paper trail documenting this.
And the idea is we'll create a virulent coronavirus that is transmissible amongst humans in order to develop a vaccine countermeasure to get ahead of it.
In the event that there should be a natural evolution of a coronavirus in nature, we'll tinker around with one in a lab.
We'll have a vaccine ready to rock in the event that one should emerge in nature.
But what we see, and we present the evidence of this, and it's very clear, is that it was actually these chimeric coronaviruses that Barrick and his colleagues at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
This was actually the causative agent.
Fauci knew that.
He played a considerable role in concealing the origin.
At the same time, as head of the NIAID, he was working with Moderna to create the vaccine against it.
So it reminds me of when I was a boy, a friend of mine was kind of a hooligan.
He'd go around at night breaking sprinkler heads, and then he would present himself at the homes of these people with broken sprinkler heads and say, hey, I noticed that your sprinkler head's broken.
You know, I could repair it for you.
Or somebody breaking glass and presenting himself the next day saying I could repair your window.
I mean, that's a rather crass way of characterizing it.
But this is the racket that we elucidate in our book.
And I think the reader will be surprised at how clear the paper trail is on this.
It sounds like a remarkable thing to say, but the evidence is clear.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And people need to understand that, you know, you're being sold this.
You're being sold this, and you're being told in many cases.
And I remember that, I remember the times, right?
You couldn't go here.
You couldn't go there.
We couldn't take our kids out anywhere in the DC area.
You couldn't go on airplanes.
You couldn't do all of these things.
We couldn't travel, right?
Because you didn't take the shot.
Well, I'm proud to say that I didn't take it.
My wife didn't take it.
My children have never taken it and they will never take it.
But to go back and understand the orthodoxy of where this came and to just have a completely, by the way, an objective look at what was successful, what was not, and what this has turned into.
It's never really been done before.
So, John, I'm so impressed that the fact that you're putting this story out now.
And man, people need to, people like me who still have a huge axe to grind with Dr. Fauci and the fact that pardon, which is totally illegitimate, needs to be overturned.
You got to get this book.
Tell people again the title and where they can go to get it.
The title of the book is Vaccines, Pathology, Ideology, and Reality.
It's just out.
It's already got over 100 Amazon five-star customer reviews.
Best place to find it is on Amazon.
I'm dithering around with bookstores.
The managers of bookstores are still somewhat reluctant to stock this kind of book.
We will certainly be checking that out.
Jack Kosobic, right back.
Human events.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn him around and make her text excited.
Amen.
All right, Jack Kosobic.
We are back here, Human Events Daily, and we've got to talk about an incredible deed fraud scheme that actually targeted a home down in Houston that's now been breaking wide.
Here's the story.
We've got a clip for it.
show you right now.
Vanessa Volbeck and Charles and Ronald Kelly are speaking out.
In 2017, they inherited their late father's home with other relatives.
They shared these videos of growing up in the home their dad proudly owned since the 60s.
In 2019, when they decided to put the house up for sale, the family attorney said what happened next was unimaginable.
They were approached by local fraudster and real estate mogul Jerry Gurley.
They received a poor offer.
offer from him and they declined.
Unphased, Jerry Gurley, with the help of his notary, forged all six signatures of the family members onto the deed, filed into the property records, and with the help of the corrupt and now defunct Patriot title company, sold it to a bona fide third-party purchaser who bulldozed their home down.
The home is gone with it generations of family history.
Court documents show a judgment finding Gurley civilly liable in this case in order to pay the family $200,000.
But they say they have not seen a penny.
That's why they're now asking Houston police to pursue criminal charges.
So there you go, folks.
That's exactly what we've been talking about for weeks and months here on this program.
Just happened down in Houston.
But thankfully, Natalie Dominguez is here to walk us through ways that not only that this takes place, but ways that you can protect yourself, your family, and your loved ones for having to deal with this.
Natalie, how are you?
Hi, Jack.
I'm really good.
How are you?
So we've been talking about this for so long.
We've got home titlelock.com.
We've got promo code posto, but people keep telling me this, this could never happen.
This would never happen.
Boom.
Walk us through what exactly happened here.
How was this?
How is this person able to do so through this, this criminal act?
It's clearly a criminal act, but do it so easily.
Yeah, yeah.
As you saw in the video, so this guy was a real estate mogul.
He's been doing this for over a decade.
For the record, he's been accused of doing this, not just to this one home, but to multiple properties.
And from what I understand, there is a current investigation going on.
The crazy thing is, you know, this guy came up to them, offered to buy their house, gave them a low ball offer.
One thing that we always tell people is be very careful when you're being approached by real estate companies, real estate agents.
One thing that we see constantly with this type of fraud is that unfortunately, we're seeing a lot of people in the real estate industry with this knowledge and with this understanding of how it works.
My personal opinion, and obviously I can't prove this allegedly, I don't think that he ever intended to actually purchase their home.
I think he was using this as a way to get personal information from them about the home's history.
A lot of that you can find online, but how much easier is it to actually go through this process of fraud when you have a little bit of the background information?
So we're seeing a lot of these people in this industry, they're using their knowledge of how easy this is to do and then commit this fraud, right?
And then all it took was him getting a little bit of info from the family, a little bit of info, you know, online about the house and who owns the property.
You walk into a county office with a piece of paper, signed, notarized, you can get a fake notary stamp.
You can get a real notary stamp online for like 20, 30 bucks, file it with the county, and then on record, you are now the owner of that home or whoever's fake name you put it in.
And then what happens is, let's say you're going to go take out loans, or in this case, what this man did was sell it behind their back.
It doesn't matter if they're still technically legally the homeowner on record with the county when a title company does a search and they're looking to make sure that you are the owner of the home to give you a loan or to secure a sale of the property.
They're only looking at that document that is on record with the county.
And that's the scariest part of this.
There's little to no authentication to file this paperwork.
And then it becomes this giant legal mess to unwind.
I think it took this family, they're still in process, what, four, five, six years to get this all, you know, finally where it's at right now.
Very easy to commit.
So, and we're looking at this too, that when you look at it, and it's, it's basically that you're talking about, I want to tease this out a little bit.
You're talking about people who are in the industry in some cases, not everyone, obviously, but in some cases, people who are in the industry who understand how all this works will participate in these schemes because they've got the inside knowledge of actually how easy it is.
Absolutely.
I mean, we have multiple reports.
I mean, when I say multiple, I mean, I get these reports every single day.
It's part of my job.
We have multiple reports from the DOJ's office that are, you know, talking about these rogue title companies, a lot of real estate brokers, real estate agents, people with knowledge in the industry.
I believe on your show, I've talked about a community organizer in Detroit, Michigan, who was taking advantage of her constituents, right?
Whose home she was actually supposed to be helping them stay in.
And then behind the scenes, her and people in her office were taking advantage and selling these properties behind their back.
So a lot of people with industry knowledge, Matt Cox, who you've had on your show, the criminal that went to prison for this for 11 years and thankfully is reformed.
But he was the same thing.
He was a mortgage broker.
That's literally how he started doing it.
And then ended up on the run from the Secret Service for three years.
Millions of dollars in fraud.
So as wild as this is, and it goes through when people think like it can't happen to us, you know, obviously you have to do stuff with your home.
People need to take out loans.
They need to do all the rest with it.
What are some steps that people could take just to understand that these schemes are out there or even with understanding it, that they could get some kind of protection, someone walking over their back to say, I don't want this to happen to me or certainly not, you know, God forbid anyone.
And I have to, by the way, can I just step back for a second here?
Because even before I asked that question, it just occurred to me that AI, I have to imagine that if AI is able to start making phone calls like this, you can use, you could use AI.
And this is me just kind of spitballing here, clone somebody's voice, and then you can even have that person sound like they're the ones making the phone call.
And suddenly that adds a whole other layer of this out there.
And I could think of another, a variety of, and you could even have criminals, they could be overseas doing this.
Yep, absolutely.
It's, It's a multitude of things, right?
I mean, think about it.
We're getting scammed every single day.
We're getting my dad literally yesterday said to me, I get 50 phone calls a day, scam calls.
I don't know about you guys.
I do too.
I get them all.
I get them like absolute crazy.
Yeah, it's horrible.
But like, you were talking about, you know, the steps you can take.
Absolutely.
AI has made everything a thousand times worse because now it's just so much easier.
And I think, especially in this post-COVID world where everything is available online, I mean, you can sell your house online without ever meeting a buyer in person, without ever seeing a notary.
There's, I believe, it's Florida.
Florida, I believe, during COVID, and it's still going on, you can get something notarized without even seeing the notary in person.
There's a checkbox on one of the sections of the notary notarization like approval area that says that they like know the person, so they don't need ID to notarize it.
And that was that was a side note, but that's wild to me that like, so someone could just check that box.
It's totally, I'm looking at the time and I, and I really, I, I actually, I, this is so interesting to me.
I'd love to get into it with you.
We'll have to book you for a longer time because this is so interesting, but folks, yeah, the solution is out there.
The cure is out there.
All right.
And no, it's not anything we were talking about in the last segment.
It's actually just a service called Home Title Lock.
Use my promo code, promo code POSO at home titlelock.com.
You can get your free title history report, free trial of their million-dollar triple lock protection.
And what does that mean?
24-7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes.
And if anything does happen, they'll spend up to a million dollars to fix it.
Natalie, that is a great offer.
Absolutely.
You lock your doors.
You have security systems.
Monitor your property title.
It's really as simple as that.
Thank you so much.
God bless.
Have a great weekend, Natalie Dominguez.
Thanks, Jack.
Thanks, guys.
Take care.
Folks, this stuff is real.
And with AI and the scam calls, we did a whole show on it the other day: tariff the call centers.
So maybe, maybe if we tariff the call centers, that that could actually stop any instances of this as well that are coming from overseas.
Think about it.
It might actually work.
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