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July 17, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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ICE Is Rescuing Small Town America, Parents' Rights & The Latest On Epstein
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Christ is king.
Today we strike a righteous blow to the drug dealers, narcotic traffickers, and criminal cartels that we've all been hearing so much about for so many years.
And we take a historic step toward justice for every family touched by the fentanyl, scurries, Scourge.
As we sign the Halt Fentanyl Act into law.
The Senate approving a massive spending cuts package just in the last few hours.
So now it heads back to the House for final approval before tomorrow's deadline.
Actually, there was supposed to be an Epstein joke here, but it got deleted.
Must have uh probably deleted itself, right?
All these complaints online going after Trump and the X-team files.
You might think his approval ratings were going down, Republicans.
If anything, they're going up.
He is at the apex or close there too, in terms of his popularity with Republican voters.
President Donald Trump is doubling down on tariffs.
He says he'll likely impose pharmaceutical duties at the end of the month, and eventually could hike them to 200%.
Trump also says he'll impose a 19% tariff on Indonesian goods soon.
The FBI is stepping up its search for the person who drew a gun and fired at officers during a protest in Camarillo last week.
The FBI now offering $50,000 for information leading to his identification, arrest, and conviction.
Ice and ICE agents on the ground in West Norton this morning, taking more than one dozen individuals into custody as outraged community members looked on and some tried intervening.
ICE tells NBC 10 federal agents from Homeland Security Investigations and the IRS were at the Super Gigante Farmers Market conducting a federal court authorized search.
Covering your faces.
This is disgusting.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
You should be ashamed.
These are hardworking people!
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily Weekend.
We're here in Washington, DC.
Today is July 17th, 2025.
Anno Domini.
And folks, what can I say?
I support my local ice raids.
I support my hometown ice raid.
As of yesterday, ICE began raids in Bodegas in my hometown, Darstown, Pennsylvania.
And I gotta say, hat is off to you.
By the way, we had the assistant secretary of homemade security on here yesterday.
Had no idea this was going on.
Obviously, this isn't something that's run from the top down like that, but these raids came on, and apparently this left-wing organization and this left wing absolute just just nut job.
Her name is Rachel Rudder.
Rachel Rudder was down there hanging out, and she was screaming, and she's got this article up about it.
You can see her, you know, flailing about.
And and she she wrote an entire substack about this.
About again, my hometown ice raid in Arsenal, Pennsylvania.
I've been waiting for this for 20 years personally, waiting to get these invaders out of my town.
Fire up the go back mobile.
Okay.
I want them out.
I want them gone.
Here's Rachel Rudder.
I saw military style ice raid first hand.
It's only going to get worse.
Ice is coming for our neighbors.
We must be prepared to fight back.
Today it was it was inexplicable.
It was military style.
There's an outpouring of support at Project Libertad, which is, by the way, they call it Libertad, not Liberdad, which a little Confused about okay, whatever.
You know, we have volunteers and community members.
No, you're aiding and embedding an illegal invasion of the United States of America.
And probably if you're aiding and embedding this, you should be arrested along with them.
God bless the men and women of ICE.
Folks, what can I say?
Justice is finally being done for the people who were run out of their homes and the people who lost their communities.
God bless ICE.
Be right back.
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All right, Jack Silpic, here we are back live, Human Events Daily.
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Folks, uh, we are working on getting this clip from the press conference just now.
And I want to uh we're gonna work on that very quickly.
But until then, I want to bring on Richard Barris, the people's pundit here joining us.
Uh, because Rich, you've been outspoken regarding the you know, the handling of a number of these issues in in a lot of uh, you know, the last 30 days, really just the last 30 days.
And you know, something that I've been reading, and and I've I've seen a lot of people point this out is the story of the brocasters and the brocasters, your Shane Gillis's, uh, like last night at the SPs, making making fun of Epstein.
Shane Gillis also recently said on his podcast that the reason that Trump won't release the Epstein Files in his view is that Trump is in the Epstein files.
So Shane Gillis said that on his podcast.
And then Theo Vaughn said, you know, you know, basically re-upped the clip of JD Evance from 2024 back in October, their own interview saying, what changed?
Why aren't these files coming out?
Uh, and you've also seen Andrew Schultz, someone who wasn't really on the Trump train, but at least one of these brocasters who had has a massive audience saying that not only does he not support Trump anymore, he regrets it, and he's now supporting Zoran Mondami.
So, Rich, let me ask you about this.
These brocaster types, does it make sense?
Does it make sense that uh that we should view them?
Are they part of the liberal establishment, or we should we view them as sort of a proxy for those low prop independent votes that you and I were talking about so much last year, specifically in Pennsylvania, uh Wisconsin and Michigan.
By the way, Shane Gillis, he's from the exact same place in Pennsylvania that I'm from, or at least he came up in the Philadelphia area.
So, Mike, I think I think we know a little bit about these guys because we're like from there.
Rich, uh floor is yours.
Well, and and thanks as always for having me on, Jack.
But um, I would point out that they're not alone, right?
So they're they're um, you know, people that may not traditionally be seen as MAGA, but certainly there were a lot of OG MAGA types who also had their own questions.
And there's a reason why these people do appeal to certain segments and certain audiences.
Um, so to pretend like they don't mean anything is of course just foolish.
I mean, the podcaster um crossover between MAGA and certain liberals that even supported Trump and independence and going all the way down to Joe Rogan, right?
The biggest name out there.
Um, they without a doubt beat out the legacy media establishment in the narrative war with uh the 2024 election, even legacy media knows that, right?
So to now just dismiss the oh, and by the way, one of them who is a mutual friend of ours probably did more to get out the vote in a certain battleground state and a couple, but one particularly than the RNC has ever done.
He had to take his own organization and turn it into a get out the vote effort because the RNC is absolutely incompetent in doing that, targeting low propensity voters and getting them out.
They are a proxy for them.
Of course, Jack.
I mean, you know the answer to that question.
There is a reason why these disconnected and disaffected voters turn to alternative sources of information and alternative sources of news outside of the legacy media establishment.
And it's because that's what fits their profile.
They deeply distrust institutions, they deeply distrust the political process, the halls of power in general.
And they are the voters that Republicans need to turn electorates into something different, especially now that they have the low propensity vote.
And that's something that somebody, everybody, everybody is missing.
This will not be 2010 or 2014 anymore.
In fact, we already know that.
Look what happened in 18 before the redistricting of the map for all of those people who are who are passing around their cute little uh RCP before and after averages with the last couple of cycles.
18 was a completely different congressional map, Jack.
And now we have 22 and we have 24 we can look at.
They already ran behind Donald Trump among these voters, and they have a very difficult time getting them out without him on the ballot.
It was their core and sole priority to bring these voters permanently into the fold.
And that is the cause for concern that some people like myself and others are trying to uh alert people of now.
So when you're talking about this, no, wait a minute, because I I just saw CNN and CNN says Trump's numbers are way up with GOP.
So how can they be up with GOP if they're down with independents?
How does it make any sense, Rich?
All right.
First of all, I mean, if you're a Trump supporter and you are now reducing yourself to citing a Quinnipiac or CNN poll and a segment by Harry Enton, you might have lost objectivity.
The pollsters who actually got the election correctly and have been getting elections correctly.
It's not a one-off, have been getting elections correctly, all see the same thing.
We all see the same thing.
A big mistake people are making, number one.
First of all, it's not true that Trump is going up.
Show me this strongly for a somewhat disapprove rating and uh versus approve uh among those different those different partisan identifying groups.
And the reason why they're not showing that is because we we can show you what ours uh also um tell us, which is that strong disapproval has fallen from 68% to 53%.
Some of them have moved into somewhat approved, but the idea that a one or two-point increase is something to jump up and down for joy about is laughable.
It's a statistical, it's a statistically insignificant difference from their last poll.
If they would have showed you the difference between strongly and somewhat approve, I can guarantee you that a huge chunk from strongly approved shifted over to somewhat, and some of that somewhat just shifted over to somewhat disapprove.
All right, and the second problem with that analysis is that it's not just about partisan identifying Republicans.
That's the key with Trump.
That's what made him different than other Republican candidates.
Base is not just Republican identifying.
MAGA doesn't mean Republican.
The two things are not mutually exclusive and equal.
MAGA is Republican, of course, and it's majority Republican.
But it also includes a segment of the independent votes, specifically one that says that they have not when we ask them, do you have more in common with the Republicans, Democrats?
We've been over this on your show a million times, Jack.
They're the ones who say that I have little in little in common with either party.
And that's the number that you have to watch.
I mean, if you're jumping up and down for joy because his Republican approval rating went up one point, two points without considering all of that while his independent number is negative 20, then again, you might have lost objectivity or you may be coping.
It's there two things can be true at once.
You can celebrate the achievements the president made and recognize the mishandling of certain things.
And I've seen this movie before, Jack.
So have you in the first administration.
If you have any criticism whatsoever, you know, people want uh to try to like, you know, uh browbeat people, you know, browbeat you.
And then we watch that, you know, we watch that devolve into things that ultimately did harm his presidency.
And that's why so many of his voters now are upset.
It's like they have PTSD.
And there, it's not that their support for him is is in question.
It's that they they they legitimately want to see him succeed.
You're talking about so they're worried about any reach of what they had seen in the goals.
You can't blame them, we're coming up on a quick, quick break here.
We're gonna hold you over.
And we've got this clip from Caroline Levitt, and we're gonna play right after the break.
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Jack.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
All right, Jack was here.
We are back, human events daily.
All right, folks.
This is a clip that just played recently.
Caroline Levitt there in the press briefing of the White House gets asked a question about special prosecutor on Jeffrey Epstein.
Here's the official word from the White House.
Go ahead.
Uh, thank you, Caroline.
No, I I called on Charlie, but Deanna, you can go ahead too.
Go ahead.
The president said that uh he floated the idea of a special prosecutor in the Epstein case.
Can you confirm that?
And does he has he asked the attorney general um to do this to appoint a special prosecutor to look it over?
Well, the idea was floated uh from someone in the media to the president.
The president would not recommend uh a special prosecutor in the Epstein case.
That's how he feels.
And as for his discussions with the attorney general, I'm not sure.
Deanna, thank you so much.
Uh okay, so no special prosecutor on Epstein.
There was a report yesterday that uh President Trump was considering this, but there's the official word from the White House.
I want to get Richard Barris in here.
Richard, I know that you know you and I were on air when this happened.
Can I get your just snap response to that?
I just think uh, you know, then the the clip from Saul John Solomon show, um, you know, just the news yesterday did get a lot of supporters excited uh that there would be a special prosecutor.
And so this is again, I the problem is the mixed message that's coming.
I think he should have just come out from the jump and said, look, Democrats had these files, and you know how I personally feel about this, Jack.
I think it was really naive to believe that the Comeys and the you know, the the Obama administration people, the Biden administration people would ever have left the integrity of these files intact, right?
So that if it would have been done and over with if from the beginning the administration and the president would have just simply taken the stance, look, guys, these are the same scumbags who did me dirty with the Russia collusion hoax.
I'm gonna need some time to make sure that we don't talk run any people through the mud unnecessarily here.
You know, we'll see what we can do with it, but we're still looking at it.
And I'm telling you, we could have rode that to the end of his term and it wouldn't have been that huge of a deal.
Uh, but it became a big deal because of how it was handled.
And it's a proxy.
I mean, this is what I think a lot of people on understanding.
If we poll people and we ask them, what's your most important issue?
Few people are gonna tell us, Jack, that you know, the Epstein files are their number one issue.
You know, they always say Things like the economy and inflation and immigration.
But in the 2024 election, unaccountability in government was a huge, huge issue.
And we would see it and manifest in phrases like threats to democracy, right?
And that's why he actually beat Kamala Harris after all of the talk about January 6th.
He actually beat Kamala Harris among voters who said that threats to democracy was the number one issue because the psyche of what it meant to them had changed, right?
The window had shifted.
It no longer meant January 6th, right?
And Republican or right-wing threats to democracy.
It meant this ruling class abusing power, getting away with things, weaponizing the Justice Department, um, you know, crippling government with corruption.
That's what it meant to those voters.
So it serves as a proxy issue in that.
And I just don't think that people fully appreciated that.
And here we are now.
So that being said, here we are now.
The just your your immediate response, not necessarily from polling perspective, but I guess just from you know a comms perspective or a PR perspective.
Yeah, you know, the story, as you say, you know, people were very excited about this John Solomon report yesterday, the just the news, and now to hear, and the president certainly seemed like he was open to it in that interview, but then he he denied it later in an event at the White House, and now you hear this unequivocal um, you know, basically just shut down from the press secretary.
Uh, do you think this is the kind of thing that's gonna make this story go away, or is this gonna galvanize people?
Uh no, I mean, I don't think it's gonna go away.
I think it's going to be a problem.
And I get the president's frustration.
He's thinking from the perspective, Jack, look at how much I've done, right?
And you know, I I we got the big beautiful bill through.
We, and I know that people are mocking it, but actually the the cane sugar and Coca-Cola is that's a huge win politically.
Maha is a big deal.
People underestimate it.
So I get his frustration because he has so many accomplishments under his belt.
But that doesn't take away from the mixed met like if you want people to celebrate those accomplishments, then you can't do things on you know, that step on those accomplishments.
And that's been going on for a number of weeks.
In our numbers, it's not just, you know, the Epstein files are not alone here.
This is like a culmination of you know, the last month of uh people starting to question things and starting to, you know, have have some have some problems.
Uh, and I don't think they got the time to get the the win, the honeymoon, the celebration from when the big beautiful bill, you know, got passed into now another issue.
And what do I mean by that?
I mean, it's this started with Iran.
18 to 20 year old support for Donald Trump collapsed when he bombed Iran.
And with all we were talking about his approval rating before, it's interesting because it we call our show inside the numbers for a reason.
It matters beyond just the headline spin in the narrative.
The only reason that his approval rating did not fall more in our polling and in others is because it's being the that decline and the decline among Hispanic men and other groups that were core Trump groups that he brought into the fold, that was offset by educated voters who were voting for by double digits for Democrats in the in this the um upcoming midterm elections anyway.
So we have actually seen this happen before when he made the decision in the early days of the lockdowns to listen to you know the advice of advisors like Deb and Fauci, right?
His approval rating with these uh voters, they increased when he did launch attacks on alleged chemical sites and saw those voters also increase, but his core vote doesn't like it and declines.
And I'm gonna say he's got to look up.
I'm gonna throw up this poll that we have from Democracy Institute regarding uh voters agree or disagree on the release of the Epstein list.
And I know you've seen similar numbers to this.
And it really gets into those Trump 2024 voters, 67% disagree.
Harris 2024 voters, 58% disagree.
And this is the big one, I think.
New voters 2024, 72% disagree, 26% agree.
And those are your new voters, then independence, a little bit Smaller there, but still at 60% uh disagree with this.
Those new voters and working class voters at 72%.
I mean, that that's what you're gonna need to get.
And by the way, by the way, there are plenty of ways to get these voters on side, by the way.
But this is definitely something that just it's gonna pile up in terms of the disagreement out there among working class voters, independent voters.
There are ways to get them back, but brow beating is not one of them.
And that's the this has to be recognized and addressed.
Voters don't like to be lectured.
They don't like to be talked down to, and they don't like to be insulted.
That is the magic of the Trump candidacy turned into presidency.
No matter what he did.
The you know, media would always say, Oh, we lied about this, and voters would not take them literally, and they would say, you know what, maybe he didn't use the right choice of words, but he wasn't BSing us, right?
He wasn't he wasn't consulting our intelligence, and he certainly wasn't attacking us.
I mean, that's the line some of his surrogates are now walking up to.
That's the real danger.
And they have to run back, Jack.
Because there are ways to get it to get it back.
Or remember they are the local people.com.
Locals.people's fundit dot com right back, Jack Silly.
Talk about influencers.
These are influencers.
Hey, Jack, where's Jack?
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting bullets.
To every politician and bureaucrat who thought they could bully moms and dads into submission.
To the detriment of their children.
You picked the wrong fight.
Yeah.
That's very parents don't surrender their rights at the school doors.
They don't answer to school boards, and they certainly don't take marching orders from a weaponized department of justice.
President Trump has stood with these parents from day one, and we and we stand with him, and I stand with these parents.
All right, Jack Pasobic, here we are, back live, human events daily.
Just saw that incredible press conference there with Congressman Andy Biggs, Washington, D.C. That was yesterday.
But we've got the great Sam Sorbo now joining us.
She was there at the press conference.
Sam, how are you?
Really good.
It was such a great day yesterday.
Unbelievable.
It was hot, but you can't tell that on the on the camera.
And uh we had Andy Biggs there instead of Andy Ogles, who sponsored the conference but was unable to get there because of plane trouble.
Uh Andy Biggs filled in and he did such a fantastic job.
And then, of course, Kelly Walker, my partner spoke, and we had several parents who have been uh beaten down by their own governments, which is what what this is all about.
It's parents demanding justice alliance, and we're asking for an executive order from the commander-in-chief, or the person I like to refer to as the president in chief, uh, because we need to make parenting great again in this nation.
Well, it's exactly that.
So walk us through the themes of the conference, the themes that we're getting out at the press conference uh that was held yesterday, and uh and and also how this ties to the recent Supreme Court hearing that just came down a couple of weeks ago regarding parental rights.
Well, okay, so the so the Supreme Court hearing, I I think you're referring to the one that's a few days ago where they said that he was that Donald Trump was justified in firing uh around 1400 um uh DOE employees.
Now, the Department of Education doesn't really have very much to do with the actual education of children.
If you want to compare that and the challenge that was posed that that rose to the level of the Supreme Court with the Chicago public schools who spent too much money on illegals and thus had to fire 1,400 teachers, including special ed teachers, uh, just the other day.
I think that uh that comparison is uh is pretty stark.
But what we're arguing is that because of Merrick Garland and this letter that classified parents as domestic terrorists that went out during COVID, and Merrick Garland then um called on the FBI to treat these parents as if they were domestic terrorists.
That That uh resulted in a catastrophic series of events for several of these parents who all they were doing was trying to look out for their children, trying to question some of the woke agenda that we have in our schools today, or some of the COVID mask policies that were instituted in their schools that were actually adversely affecting and and in some cases really harming children.
We have one parent whose child was uh forced to wear a mask when he took the mask off and threw it in the trash in the nurse's office.
They made him fish it out of the trash and put that mask back on his face.
So these things, and by the way, then the parents were then targeted by their communities, by their school boards who called for their uh firing, uh called for their businesses to be shut down, and uh and so many of these parents have been almost irreparably harmed.
They need some sort of restitution.
But bigger than that, Jack, you know, this this set a precedent in our schools to consider parents um expendable and exposed uh disposable in terms of the the education of their children.
And that's absolutely not true.
Uh parents are the number one indicator.
Parental involvement is the number one indicator of academic success for their kids.
And so we need parents more involved, not less involved.
Schools that try to eliminate parents or sideline parents in the uh conversation about their children's education, those places are actually seeking the destruction of those children.
That is not what we do in the United States.
And I know that we're 40th in the world of 40 developed nations for education.
The easiest way to start turning this around is to put parents back inside the schools, inside the classrooms, inside the conversation about the education of their children.
I couldn't agree more.
And uh over here in uh we also saw there was that Mahmood case that came down sort of the end of June regarding the LGBTQ themed books and religious freedom concerns because there was this group of parents in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, or excuse me, Ocumbere County, Maryland.
I'm from Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, so that's why I think about it, it's right outside Philly.
And uh you're f you're a Pennsylvania person too.
Am I right?
Am I right or am I wrong about that?
Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh, there you go.
See, I I I knew it.
I can always tell.
I can always tell.
Um, but this is Montgomery County, Maryland, and this right outside of DC were even those parents, by the way.
So this is this is like the liberal DC bubble, they were objecting because this LGBTQ uh information was going to their kids, was going in at such a level they didn't want it in there, took it all the way to the Supreme Court.
By the way, Mahmood, yeah, as you can imagine, these were not uh not Christian families, many of them, by the way, Muslim.
Uh so you had Muslim and Christian families saying, we don't want this, we're gonna take this all the way up, we're gonna fight it.
And they got it overturned, and the Supreme Court actually did rule that parents' religious freedoms were burdened by the school district's policy of requiring students to engage with those books, issued that preliminary injunction, meaning parents can opt the kids out of those lessons.
And this was a six to three decision.
There's gonna be obviously other cases involving this, but huge, huge win for not just parental rights, but also for religious freedoms and the intersection of those with the public education space.
Yeah, I mean, I I wish I could see it as as big a win as many are trying to categorize it.
In fact, what it says is that they have the right to opt their children out, but that that pedagogy, that uh gay and transgender pedagogy will in fact be taught in the schools, which then codifies it as something that is valuable even though it's rife with lies.
Uh and so even though these parents can opt their children out, then what?
In fact, I wrote an op-ed about this, then what?
So those children then become ostracized, they don't have the information that the other children has have, w whatever kind of information about gay sex or whatever you want to call it, right?
And so those children then are integrated back into the classroom.
And what?
Are we going to allow the children who saw the material to then demonstrate the material for the children who were opted out?
I mean, for the parents who send their children to this school for education, to be forced to opt out of something that is so not educational is a travesty, and I find it very sad.
We ought to get back to teaching truth in our schools, and um that includes traditional values, I'm sorry to say, uh, because those are time tested.
Well, no, I I think that's a great point.
And you're right.
Uh this this obviously isn't something that's going to be solved just by parents continuing to be involved.
So and this is well, yeah, I've had you on about this as well, so it's kind of a layup question, but so let's say you are a parent out there and you're very concerned about your kids being involved with this.
Also, you're just concerned with society in general and how we're raising the next generation.
What options are there for you to take proactive steps so that your kid isn't, you know, they're they're not even entering into this cycle.
Well, of course, if you don't want them to enter into the cycle, then you don't enroll them in school.
Of course, I'm a home educator, so I advocate for children to be home with their parents.
And by the way, home is a generalized term.
I don't mean the children should stay inside the house at all times with their parents.
That's not how that works.
Um as a home educator, what I've discovered is that education is a lot more organic than we are led to believe by the people who make money uh running our schools, right?
So we have been taught that school is education, where um actually that's not the case.
Education happens a lot more organically, and in fact, school uh sometimes is actually an impediment to education.
So uh the easiest thing is to not enroll your children, but then you know, barring that, get involved, run for school board, be on the school board.
I actually have an initiative that I'm trying to put through for uh school boards to be made up entirely of parents of children in the that school, and all school boards should be local to every school because it it it ought to be more locally managed.
It should not be federally managed, and that's what Trump is ha thankfully trying to do is to disengage the federal management of education, and um it should barely be state managed.
It's it's as simple as that.
By the way, I do want to play this clip from Loudoun County because we really do have to remember how bad the these things got.
This was 2021, so this was not even that long ago.
Let's say that's right.
is wrong too.
You are who you are.
Make an action of that.
What?
What's up?
You know that by the fire of my family, you definitely have sold in a thousand of my eyes.
You were going to have a fight season.
Eight!
At four, you were free!
Oh my god!
I'm in trouble, I'm a boy!
Get out there!
My tribe, wait right now!
And this is what happened!
The whole series are out.
Good job.
Good job, all of them.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No?
No?
Stop, stop!
Thank you.
So so there you go.
I mean, that's just four years ago.
And you know, Sam, let's look at it from that perspective as well.
This is how bad it's gotten because we've completely abrogated in this country parental rights to the rights of the government in so many of these situations.
And there you go, where this was a remember, and for folks who don't remember the the story, Loudoun County, Virginia, this was a man whose daughter was sexually assaulted in her high school bathroom by a transgender student who had been passed from another school where apparently he had had another incident, and he was trying to speak, the school board told him not to, and then he was forcefully arrested.
Right.
So this, I mean, this has been going on longer than we care to uh consider, frankly.
But uh moving forward, let's not just let bygones be bygones.
The parents that pay uh parents demanding justice alliance represents are people just like you and me, parents of school children who have been injured by their government.
That is the thing that we have to start with.
And turn it turning that around is to me the most important thing.
As a as a home education advocate, I know that the par parental input is the most important thing in a child's education in a child's upbringing.
And the first step to turning this around to uplifting parents is to acknowledge that the government mistreated their parents and to uh lift them back up again and encourage parenting and families.
And let's get back to the the America that we used to have that really the fa the family was the foundation of our society.
That's what we need to return to.
And uh the best way, and by the way, that is the best uh for case for for the children as well.
So if we just take that on its face, it's it's an easy layup for the president to take care of this, and it's a great start to making amends and going forward uh in strength.
How how do you view um the Department of Education's moves when it comes to this on our Lindwick ban?
You know, you you broke up a little bit.
The the edge department of education's views on what?
Oh no, how do how do you view the moves that they have been making?
Oh just in the company.
Just the moves so far?
Well, yeah, I mean, they're very positive.
Certainly getting rid of some of the the department employees, and I'm sure these people are very qualified and won't have any trouble finding work elsewhere.
But honestly, the Department of Education really doesn't have anything to do with the specific education of children.
And if it did, if it the entire department should be fired immediately because we've dropped a 40th among 40.
So uh this is a good start, and they have a long way to go.
But they are making progress.
Um the funding is not drying up.
The funding is simply being sourced to other avenues where it's already taking place.
So uh really we're just sort of cutting off some of the chaff, and there's a lot more to go.
I think there is a lot more to go.
And I I do agree with President Trump that when he says though that he hopes that Linda McMahon will be the last Secretary of Education.
And wouldn't that be something?
But you know, we're here we are looking at a situation where this this isn't some old long-standing tradition.
It's not like the you know, Department of State or something, or the Department of Defense, aka the Department of War.
The Department of Education has only been around since the Carter administration, and this idea that uh, you know, it's it's some long-standing traditional form of this gone downhill.
It's completely gone downhill.
And and it was under Obama that they put all of the student loans under there.
That's where the student loan crisis came from, which is something, by the way, I I am uh I am sympathetic to because I think a lot of these students, what happened with them was they got absolutely taken advantage of, and parents, this is more at the college level, but parents didn't understand exactly how bad it was going in for those kids.
So Sam Sorbo, we're gonna we've got a quick break coming up when we come back.
I believe we'll be joined by a very special guest debuting here on Human Events Daily.
Stay tuned.
Real America's voice.
don't turn that dial.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're gonna turn it around and make our country right again.
Amen.
All right, Dak Pasobic, here we are back, human events daily live in Washington, DC.
And I told you that we were coming back with a bit of a special guest, and this is a treat, you know.
Uh we we we we we love doing the family stuff here on the show.
You guys see uh I think I bring on like every single member of my family on human events, but I don't always bring on the family members of my guests until now because folks, we've got Sam Sorbo and Braden Sorbo, who is out with a new book called Embrace Masculinity.
What's up, Sam?
What's up, Braden?
It's good to be here together, you know.
We we live in West Palm, and so it's easy to come in at the same time, which always makes it.
I'm basically her chauffeur at this point.
Now, which one manages which?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Who's the manager?
Is this like a Taylor Swift kind of situation?
If only I'm the manager.
I'm the mom meager.
There we go.
Got it, got it.
Right.
So you guys are in you guys are in our palatial Rob Siggs palatial West Palm studio, and I'm schlepping it up here in DC.
I got it.
I got the community is just about as bad here now.
Yeah, I thought I actually thought you were gonna be in DC when they uh when they when they mentioned it earlier.
But you know, this this is great.
So Braden, we haven't aired it yet.
It's gonna come out later, but you and I did a long form interview all about your book that is gonna drop, I believe, later tonight on the human events daily podcast side and our social media side, where we go way down and deep into all of this, embrace masculinity.
But but before I ask you about that, Sam, I gotta ask you, have you read the book yet?
And what do you think about what Braden says?
Well, of course I've read the book, and I taught him everything that he knows.
So my mom is my beater reader for all my stuff.
She's the better here for every single book, everything I've done.
Yeah, and I'm proud of him.
It is his second book, and uh I just uh he's done such a great job, and he's become such a fine, upstanding young man.
And honestly, you're putting me on the spot because I'm really not allowed to criticize him in this capacity here.
I am Veron Home after all.
Mom's a little critical about some of the stuff.
Uh, wait, wait, is there are there other parts where you disagree?
Oh, now I'm interested.
Well, she's she's very critical, which is one of my favorite traits about her, is because at least I know whenever she's saying something that it's completely honest.
And so the whole purpose is to make what I'm doing as good as it possibly can be, which is why I think the book has been so well received from everyone who's read it, is because of notes like hers.
No, that's great.
That's great.
No, I've I had some good ones, you know.
When I when I did uh when my mom raids over my stuff, she's this doesn't make any sense.
Fix this.
She just used, you know, like redlining different stuff, fix this up.
But so walk us through what what's the core of the book, what's the theme?
Uh why put this book out right now.
Well, the core of the book is to uplift specifically men, but but everyone living in the West today struggling with the decline of morality that we see in our society.
And so I really wanted something that could serve as a guide, as a handbook, as a tool for young people specifically from the perspective of another young person.
We have wonderful people in the conservative movement and in the Christian sphere that are doing great things, but we don't have very many Gen Z people like myself.
And so I felt the calling, the need to kind of step up and try to take that mantle to be that voice for the young people, which is the entire premise behind the book.
It's it's a message of being able to relate and to say to these people, look, I get what you're going through.
I've been there.
Here's how we can climb out of it together to save this country.
Also, it's pointing for uh for young women to uh understand what masculinity is and why they should be pursuing a masculine male instead of uh what I like to call a lie down guy instead of a stand-up guy, uh, because they are being led astray.
A lot of women today, young women who are in school are being taught a pack of lies.
And uh and it's very sad to me because they are squandering uh some of their most valuable time uh on not great guys, on young men who are not stand-up guys.
And so that's also what this book is about.
It's it's uh it's a it's a map.
A checklist.
No, I I I think that's great.
You know, I uh yeah look when I was in my 20s, you know, I was uh I was going off.
I was definitely I was doing the military, I was trying to travel, I was trying to do all sorts of different things.
I was definitely not thinking about ways that I could be a better man.
I was just sort of going out and trying to enjoy life and do it, do everything that I possibly could and go uh, you know, try and sample everything the world had to offer.
But it's really something where I think I see this a lot more now with Gen Z that uh there's a general sense, and I would just have a minute left, and people can get more into the podcast.
When it comes out later tonight to make sure you're subscribed to human events daily, but there's this general sense that something's gone wrong with the world externally, and the problem isn't that external issue that that's actually a symptom of the internal problems that we're all facing.
Does that make sense?
Well, Braden what Braden had a career as a public speaker before he even started this.
And one of the phrases that he used to say, do you want to quote it?
Hard times make soft men.
yes, it is the weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, and good times create weak men.
And we are right now at the pinnacle of the weak men who are creating the hard times.
And so I like to say that unfortunately, if we don't turn this ship around, then America, as we knew it, the American dream which I was sold growing up as a kid will no longer exist.
And so we have to take this fight.
We have to pick up the reins to save that American dream for the next generation.
because I may not have all of the benefits that the previous generations were given, were gifted, but I can certainly try to bring them back for the following generations.
It's as simple as that.
Tell people, again, the name of the book and where they can go get it.
Embrace masculinity, lifting men up in a world that pushes them down.
They can go to SorboStudios.com and sign up for our newsletter and follow me at Braden Sorbo across any and all social platforms.
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