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The Art of the Deal vs the Art of War

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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
Christ is king!
The state of Florida is charged and failed Trump assassin suspect Ryan Ruth with attempted first degree murder and terrorism.
Consumer prices month over month.
So this was actually a drop of 0.1%, negative 0.1%.
That's the first time we've seen that since COVID.
Year over year, the annual inflation rate was at 2.4%.
This was also better than expected and a six month low moving in the right direction.
Mr. President, where does the TikTok deal stand given what we've seen?
Well, it's moving along, but obviously I would say right now China's not exactly thrilled about signing it.
We have a deal with some very good people, some very rich companies that would do a great job with it, but we're going to have to wait to see what...
What's going to happen with China?
President Trump is expected to meet with his cabinet at the White House.
Now, this comes a day after he pressed pause on his punishing reciprocal tariffs against most countries except for China.
As the trade war with China heats up, President Trump is urging Americans to stay cool.
The president posted on Truth Social everything is going to work out well.
Beijing isn't so sure.
Communist government put another 84% tariff on American goods.
Mr. Trump saw that You're okay.
You're okay if we continue to put our own economic and national security future in the hands of our biggest enemy because, effectively, they use slave labor to build stuff and that makes it better for us?
That is terrible.
I am 100.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live Washington, DC. Today is April 10th, 2023.
2025, Anno Domini.
I want to go now to President Trump, who is speaking in the White House as part of this Cabinet meeting.
Oh, yeah, I'm actually being told it just wrapped up, so what we're going to be doing is give you a quick recap of that.
You know, we had this meeting, President Trump, a lot of questions, round robin, and...
you know really went through all the different departments found out what's going on talking about the different you know the different uh research from each of the departments what everyone's working on held the meeting a couple of questions from various members of the press a couple of questions from
various members of the cabinet as well about what's going on but really a full frontal push there from the administration on what's going forward and this idea that the new
going forward will be this great deal.
The target on all of it is China.
The target on everything that they are focused on is China.
And in fact, it always was China.
seeing is the art of the deal versus the art of war.
President Trump studying Sun Tzu, understanding Sun Tzu.
The Chinese generals, Chinese leaders also understanding Sun Tzu.
We're going to talk a little bit about the background of the Chinese Communist Party, how they got to where they are today, how they stood to the point where they are today when the Soviet Union fell apart.
And it was because of the West.
It was because of Western elites.
It was because our leadership decided to put them in this position.
But now President Trump has decided that we shouldn't be honoring the elites of the Chinese Communist Party.
In fact, what we should be doing is working on behalf of the American people.
We'll be right back.
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Very excited to have on now Liz Collin from Alpha News.
She is an investigative reporter there.
And the last time we had her on, she was telling us about this new confrontation, or at the time it was a new confrontation, that she had with a member.
Folks remember this.
This is all about Derek Chauvin, George Floyd, all of these cases, and something that occurred at the case itself.
Well, she confronted a member.
of law enforcement there and got up in her face and asked a few questions.
Let's play that clip right now.
Hi, Katie.
Fine. Yeah, actually, I have a few questions for you.
Are you aware that 14 former and current Minneapolis police officers say you lied during Derek Chauvin's trial and perjured yourself?
What's the truth here?
I'd like to talk to you about the lawsuit you filed against myself and Alpha News.
34 police officers have come forward to say that MRT was trained by the Minneapolis Police Department.
I've been trying to get in touch with you.
You've obviously declined my interview request.
Don't you think people deserve the truth?
*gunshot* *gunshot* *gunshot* *gunshot* *gunshot* Thank you.
Well, Liz Collin was later sued by Katie Blackwell.
The court just ruled.
Liz joins us now.
Liz, what's the update in the case?
Hi, Jack.
Thanks for having me back on.
Well, we are relieved to put this behind us.
Earlier this week, we got the judgment and Judge Wall ruled in our favor, dismissed.
What our attorney has referred to as a garbage lawsuit that was filed in the first place over the fall of Minneapolis in my book, They're Lying, the Media, the Left, and the Death of George Floyd.
That lawsuit was filed by now assistant police chief Katie Blackwell.
She is the person who, one of the members of law enforcement that took the stand in Derek Chauvin's trial.
To say that the technique that Derek and the other officers were doing with George Floyd was not trained by the Minneapolis Police Department.
We put that clip under great scrutiny in...
...in the documentary itself and dedicated a couple pages of the book to that as well.
And Judge Wall ultimately threw out, dismissed the lawsuit against us.
And it's kind of interesting how it's been spun a bit by the mainstream media here in Minnesota.
They're saying this was...
Free speech, so this is why the judge went ahead and dismissed the lawsuit.
But in fact, we passed the substantial truth test.
I was just going to read part of the order, but under these facts, it is possible to interpret Blackwell's testimony as incomplete or misleading by omission.
Judge Wall went to great care in his 58-page ruling in all of this.
10 different points that actually question the truthfulness of Katie Blackwell's testimony in Chauvin's trial.
So I think in many ways, there's going to be much more to
So when you're talking about this being a legitimate or a truthful interpretation, let's be very clear.
We're talking about the training of the use of the knee restraint that Derek Chauvin used on George Floyd in that, of course, infamous video that everyone, I'm sure, in the world has seen at this point.
when katie blackwell testified she at the time was the training commander so all training that was received by the minneapolis police department was was overseen by her and she testified that that what i believe she said was not familiar to her the uh the knee restraint that was used and yet of course chauvin's argument and his lawyers argued that this was in fact exactly how he had been trained to restrain a uh a suspect When they were acting the way that George Floyd
was. And so, basically, I guess what the court is ruling here is that there is a degree of truth to what you said.
Now, that being the case, then, is this something that Chauvin, this ruling, is this something that Chauvin himself could use in a potential, and obviously he is filing appeals, is this a ruling that he could then use in his favor?
Yes, absolutely.
We've already been in touch with Derek Chauvin's attorney.
Greg Joseph is representing him in his state appeal, and he plans to use these declarations.
So keep in mind, we have 34 police officers as part of our case that have said, this is exactly how we trained.
We used MRT.
14 of them said that Katie Blackwell perjured herself in his trial.
And these are sworn court declarations that Greg Joseph intends to use for Derek Chauvin's trial.
We had about 50 people in all come forward and do declarations on behalf of Alpha News for our case.
We're obviously grateful to all of them.
It's sometimes a tough go here in Minnesota, Jack.
I know you know that well, but it does seem that perhaps a little bit more every day that the truth is being told and perhaps more accepted now.
...than ever before.
Keep in mind, the book, the documentary, this was not covered at all by the mainstream media in Minnesota, but they were very quick to jump and cover on the fact that we were being sued, almost cheering this lawsuit on in a way.
But it's quite interesting how no one has yet to ask the assistant police chief, again, in Minnesota's largest city, if she lied in the most high-profile...
Hearing, you know, court proceeding in Minnesota history, essentially, and what does that mean to the job that she currently has.
So we'll continue, of course, to follow it here at Alpha News.
But also keep in mind, you know, she questioned the tactics, the techniques used by the prosecution in Chauvin's trial as well, led by Attorney General Keith Ellison.
So I think there's more to come.
Liz, is this something that Chauvin himself could potentially use as grounds for a new trial?
Absolutely. This is already part of, we're aware of it being part of filings as part of his state appeal.
And that, it sounds like, will be in November at this point, at last check.
Also, just to remind your viewers who have followed this very closely, Do we even know where this guy is,
by the way?
Still, no.
The only answer is that the Federal Bureau of Prisons, he's not in their custody.
But that is all that's listed publicly.
It's really crazy.
I want to say congratulations to you, Liz Collin, and to anybody out there.
Don't mess with Liz Collin.
She's going to court.
You're going to take her to court.
You're going to lose.
You're going to lose every time because she operates on the basis of the facts, follows the truth wherever it leads.
And so this is where she goes.
And so if you're going to come at her, you need to have a set of facts that are better than the ones that she already has, because that's what she takes the time to do.
Liz, where can people go to watch the documentary that's now got a court order that has met the standard of truth and to get the book?
Well, I appreciate the kind words.
I also want to give props to our attorney, Chris Maddell and his team.
Talk about a bulldog.
He was really something to see in court.
Don't mess with that guy.
But thefallofminneapolis.com and elphanews.org, you'll find everything right there.
All right.
Thefallofminneapolis.com.
Go right there.
Make sure you're following Liz Collin for all the updates on the truth about Derek Chauvin.
We'll be right back.
Human Events Daily 2. Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
These are influencers.
And they're friends of mine.
Jack. Where's Jack?
He's done a great job.
Lifting the rock only to drop it on one's own feet is a Chinese folk saying to describe the behavior of certain fools.
The reactionaries in all countries are fools of this kind.
In the final analysis, The persecution of the revolutionary people only serves to accelerate the people's revolutions on a broader and more intense scale.
"You can take a piece of wood and beat your feet." This is a simple word for Chinese people.
"The Chinese people are such a stupid person.
They are doing a kind of torture for the revolution, and they can only help the people of the world."
Would you like to tell me how you're spending your bank holiday weekend?
Are you staying here the whole weekend?
Would you like to translate?
Down with British imperialism.
Long live chairman Mao.
Long live chairman Mao.
Bye.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back.
Human Events Daily.
What you just listened to was actual audio of a Red Guard, one of the Chinese youth that were ginned up, that were radicalized by Chairman Mao himself during the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
Rare video, by the way, and audio of them actually speaking in English.
Long live Chairman Mao.
Long live Chairman Mao, Mao Zedong.
Mao Zedong.
And so the idea is that what we've seen from China, all the way back to the beginning, all the way to now, has been this history of the revolutionary movement, the People's Liberation Army,
which originally the Red Army, then, which then became the People's Republic of China.
All led by Chairman Mao, Peng Dehuai, its leading general at the time, later became the leading general of the Korean War.
For the Chinese side, they got involved when the U.S. had pushed the Koreans back, Korean communists, by Kim Jong-un's grandfather, Kim Il-sung, all the way back to the Yalu River.
So the history between the U.S. and the Chinese Communist Party is very long.
There is a long march of history between the U.S. China as pertains to the Chinese Communist Party.
And originally it was very antagonistic.
And so you saw this antagonism where the U.S. was nominally supporting Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalists.
We talk about this in Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them, the book that we released almost a year ago.
It has now been over a year since I announced the book.
It was July 9th.
When we released the book, the book has just taken on a life of its own.
And we get into this quite specifically, the background of the Chinese Communist Party, the way that Chairman Mao and his policies were used to purge the country of what he called the petty bourgeoisie, or what the Russian Bolsheviks would call the kulaks in their world.
But this idea of landowners, landlords, Chairman Mao's own father being a, you know, was actually You know, sort of petty landlord in his own right.
But of course, of course, the communists always look out for their own.
But along the line, so after Chairman Mao dies and the communist revolution, the cultural revolution ends with his death, Deng Xiaoping came in.
And Deng Xiaoping coming in sort of shifted China from this economic model of communism to a new model of what they call socialism with Chinese characteristics, where the party would stay in control.
And then their economy would shift closer towards market capitalism.
But what happened in 1989?
Well, in 1989, after Tiananmen Square, that's when the Bush administration, Bush 41 administration, came in and conducted this secret meeting, a series of secret meetings with General Scowcroft, who had been the National Security Advisor at the time with the Chinese Communist Party, that sowed the seeds for what later became the system of globalization,
globalism. That continued through the 90s and then culminated in the Bush 43 administration.
So Bush, Clinton, Bush, they all pursued this policy.
Where China would become the factory of the world, Western IP and Western elites would merge, essentially, and the handover of Hong Kong occurred during all of this.
A dowry, if you will, towards globalism.
The merger of the Western elites.
And the Chinese Communist Party elites, by the way, the 1% of China essentially is the Chinese Communist Party.
It's only 1% of their population.
And so the idea was that they would be able to rule over the middle class and working class of both countries, really all countries, by this system of globalization, hollowing out the middle class, hollowing out middle America.
But now, President Trump is actually working.
To upend that system and upend that deal that's been going on for 30 years.
That's why Shanghai and Shenzhen and all of those cities look the way they do, and Chicago, Detroit, and all the rest look the way they do.
We'll be right back in Events Daily with more.
We'll be right back.
And Jack, where is Jack?
Where is Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.
Alright, Jack Sobek, we're back.
Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. Also up on Real America's Voice as well as the Salem Radio Network from coast to coast.
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Obviously, that's been the big story, from tariffs to the bond market, etc., and a lot of talk about the Federal Reserve.
Talk about the interest rates.
Are they going to go up?
Are they going to come down?
President Trump, of course, wants them to come down, has been pushing for this left and right.
Jerome Powell will see if he wants to actually do this.
The Chinese Communist Party doing everything they can to keep the interest rates where it is.
Zero Hedge is putting out great reporting on this.
By the way, Zero Hedge is actually in the White House pool today.
God bless Zero Hedge and God bless the work that they've been doing.
So all of this, what's it going to do?
It's going to get, and if those rates come down, it's going to have a huge effect.
on the ability of people to access money and that of course it also goes directly towards this level of home ownership home buying house flipping that comes up again and what does that do that leads people into this idea so these criminals these identity thieves who want to go after your home go after your home equity take out loans in your name guess what that's where the trouble comes in so i wanted to bring on now our next guest She is the marketing director of Home Title Lock.
Natalie, thank you so much for joining us.
Hi, Jack.
Thank you so much for having me with you guys again.
And thank you for that great introduction.
I don't even think you need me here, honestly.
But I'm so glad that you brought up the market changes and people buying additional property.
For most of Americans, your home is your biggest asset.
And for a lot of people, their financial future, it's the financial future of their children.
So I think it's really, really important to talk about these things because of that.
I mean, there's $32 trillion in equity as of, I think, last year, right?
And it could be even more now and hopefully more in the future.
But, you know, with squatting, one of the scary things, we actually just had a report on this recently.
There was a woman that in Florida did this in two different homes, told the police when she got found out that the reason she started doing it is because she knew other people that were doing it, broke into someone's home who, you know, and this is really important for people that own different
properties or go back and forth, or if they're flipping something and they're currently currently not living there she found a property that was vacant
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And then when the police showed up, I kid you not, this woman says, Finders, keepers, losers, weepers.
This is in the court reports.
It is such a wild story.
And I don't mean to laugh because it's not funny, but I just find it absolutely ridiculous.
But here's the crazy...
Yeah, the brazenness.
I mean, she just, and she admitted to everything right out.
She's like, I wanted to take care of this house.
I was going to, you know, I can't believe they left it in shambles.
And the home was perfectly fine.
They were getting the lawn cut every single week.
It was just their second home that they went back and forth between.
But it wasn't the first house she'd done this.
And the sad thing is she wasn't even fully attempting to just squat.
She went the extra mile.
And we're seeing this more and more as people are filing this paperwork to make it official.
The thing is, when the police showed up at her door, and this is what people need to understand, if she would have filed that quick claim deed with the county and it had gone through, luckily for this particular instance, she'd messed up some of the paperwork so it wasn't approved.
But if it had, legally, there would have been nothing the police could have done to remove her from the home.
She would have been legally on paper the owner of the home.
And then there would have had to been...
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And this report came out recently, and even just without the paperwork being finalized, this had happened a year and a half ago.
So the processes take a really, really long time, and that's also really scary for homeowners that don't have the resources to go through all of this.
So, you're in these situations.
By the way, what state was that in?
I didn't catch what state that was in.
Florida. Florida and California are really, really bad right now in New York.
And is that as far as...
And New York, as we know, I think it's in the five boroughs where they actually have these squatters rights laws where essentially like even if you prove you're the homeowner, the police will still take are required under this law to take the side of
the squatter.
So here you have a situation where some.
Yeah. I remember there were some cases where people were actually renting the home from you,
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So you're right that in this case, by the way, it's...
They're very, very, very lucky about it getting caught and nipped in the bud and having that quick claim early on.
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By the way, I had somebody, I'm not going to say who, but someone that I work with who was the victim of identity theft, not in terms of a home loan, it was something else, but did have loans taken out in their name, and it's horrible.
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Well, and not only that, but I don't think people realize until we talk about it how long it can take to actually get everything reversed and back.
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You know, in the squatter story, I was just talking about what killed me, I think, the
And I'm going to quote this.
The state attorney came out and said, although the deeds were not accepted by the clerk of the court in this case, if they had been, there could have been drastic and expensive consequences for the homeowner.
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What stood between this squatter being a squatter and this squatter owning someone's home was that they didn't fill out a line of an address correctly when they went to file this document, and it's the only reason it got rejected.
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That will be right back here at Human Events Daily.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
I think it is.
Amen. Well,
we'll see what happens with China.
We would love to be able to work a deal.
They've really taken advantage of our country for a long period of time.
They've ripped us off beyond anybody, nobody.
How people stood for it, sitting in my position, is not even believable.
And we're talking about many presidents, not just couples.
But they did, and all we're doing is putting it back in shape.
We're resetting the table.
We're going to go.
When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
All right, Jeff, so here we are back live, Human Events Daily.
I want to go now to Real America's Voice's own Brian Glenn.
He is live at the White House.
Brian, we just finished up the Cabinet meeting.
What's the latest you're hearing from the White House, from the administration?
Well, Jack, we had pretty much all the cabinet members, for the most part, come through here down Pebble Beach, stopping at a few outlets, but really not taking a whole lot of questions at all as they just wrapped up that, it seems like a two-hour cabinet meeting with the president and others taking questions.
But, Jack, it seems to be everything is about the tariffs.
And as you heard the soundbite coming in, the president talking about China.
The first thing that came to my mind, Jack, is why are we all so worried?
About China.
I'm more worried about the U.S. and what our economy is doing and what we're paying in tariffs.
But this seems like the world is in such defense of China.
But that seems like they are the lone wolf right now as far as really coming to the table to negotiate a lower tariff, as we've seen 70-plus countries, Jack, call that president up and say, look, we're willing to negotiate.
Let's do what's fair and balanced in terms of our trade.
Well, that's right.
What's the mood of the administration?
Obviously, we've seen the stock market.
It's gone up and down quite a roller coaster this week.
Do you get the sense that there's that kind of tension that the media is talking about?
You're there on the ground.
Give us a sense of the color inside the White House.
Yeah, that's a great question.
Everyone here remains very optimistic.
I mean, those numbers came in, inflation low, the oil, everything is doing what they expect it to do.
When you look at the fundamentals of a market, they're becoming right in place, going in the right direction.
Now, in terms of the tariffs and the stress and the anxiety that the media, I think, is committed to making sure that the American people feel, I don't think you feel that inside the White House.
As a matter of fact, I'm...
I can clear to say they don't feel that in the White House.
They remain very confident that what they've put in place, their game plan here with these tariffs, with these negotiations with China, is what's going to get the best outcome.
So the mood here is very optimistic, Jack.
I don't see the anxiety coming from them.
I see the anxiety and really kind of the disappointment coming from the media and coming from the left that wants to demonize what President Trump is simply trying to do is put us all on an even playing field and putting America first.
That's what it's all about, putting America jobs, manufacturing first.
Now, what's the president's schedule like for the next couple of days there?
We know that he's got some events.
He's going to be leaving the White House.
What is the planning looking forward?
There is a bill signing probably taking place right now.
It was closed to the media, so I don't have a lot of details on that.
He does have a physical situation.
And from what I've been told, he's going to make a stop in Miami on Saturday for an event and then back to Mar-a-Lago on Saturday night and then fly back up here on Sunday.
So the typical weekend for the president with the addition of a physical, which you and I both know, Jack, if you're over the age of 50, as I am, go get your physical once a year.
Go get your health check.
I think it's important for everyone to do that.
And I'm glad the president's doing that tomorrow.
But he will have probably some news exactly with that bill that he is signing probably right now, a little bit later.
Now, this isn't the overall budget reconciliation process.
We know the House was up late last night.
Johnson holding meetings, President Trump, I'm sure, making phone calls.
Any daylight as to whether or not we're going to get that bill by the end of the week?
The House voted on it today, and it was approved.
But that was to open the door now to get the big, beautiful bill signed.
I think that's going to happen.
The only two holdouts from a Republican side on that, Thomas Massey, no big surprise on that.
He's always been pretty much a hard no on a lot of stuff.
And then Victoria Sparks as well was a no.
So you had two no's from the Republican Party, but really kind of a tug of war.
And what I've been told and kind of what I've seen, Jack, the biggest holdouts on all of this have been people that were never really in the Trump camp to begin with.
They were either, for whatever reason, in the Nikki Haley camp early on or the Ron DeSantis camp.
So the people that are causing, I think, are dragging their feet, I should say, in the biggest way of getting all of this done, were not necessarily...
Brian Glenn, thank you so much for your yeoman's work there at the White House.
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