Jan. 31, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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The DC Crash, Exclusive Interview with Sec. Noem, Ordo Amoris and Pro-Life Pardons
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A high-level investigative source tells me that they have now confirmed that an FAA air traffic control supervisor in the tower here at Reagan had allowed a supervisor to leave early, and as a result, there was only one supervisor Wednesday night handling both helicopter traffic and plane traffic.
You got three Black Hawk pilots on...
It's effectively an annual night qualification run.
So there's a corridor there that is utilized near Reagan National Airport that the military uses for exercises.
Our investigation will tell us more.
We also don't yet have the black box from the Black Hawk.
When we do, we'll get a sense of internal communications.
Tulsi Gabbard, Trump's pick for intelligence chief, she was questioned about her past support of Edward Snowden.
Yes or no, is Edward Snowden a traitor to the United States of America?
As someone who has worn our uniform in combat, I understand how critical our national security is.
You know, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies.
It's in Congress, too.
Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests.
I encourage you to read the rest of the interview.
This is why snippets of information are often misleading and detrimental to this committee's advice and consent process.
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We somehow led people to believe that Ukraine would be able not just to defeat Russia, but destroy them, push them all the way back to what the world looked like in 2012 or 2014, before the Russians took Crimea and the like.
And in the result, what they've been asking for the last year and a half is to fund a stalemate.
Ukraine is being set back a hundred years.
Their energy grid is being wiped out.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, says it arrested more than a thousand people after detaining another thousand on Sunday.
President will be implementing tomorrow a 25% tariffs on Mexico, 25% tariffs on Canada, and a 10% tariff on China.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Here we are live back in Washington, D.C. Today is January 31st, 2025, Anno Domini.
So for those who have been watching, no, I was not here yesterday.
I was on assignment with, believe it or not, Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noem.
And we're going to be talking a little bit more about that later in the program here.
President Trump then giving this, the ultimatum has come down.
The ultimatum has come down that yes, the tariffs are going to be going down on Canada, on where I was yesterday, by the way, briefly.
I'll explain that later in a minute because I walked into Canada and I walked back out.
I also threatened to invade Canada with snowballs.
Another long story.
Tomorrow, the tariffs on China, Canada...
And Mexico will go down.
Yes, they are going to be going in place.
There was a Reuters story at one point that said they may not be going until March, but no, it's actually going to start until tomorrow.
This was the deadline.
The deadline has not been met.
The border is still not open.
I can confirm that it's still not closed.
I can confirm that certainly from the Canada side.
And the issue, of course, the issue is we need to get We need to get all of this in place.
But I want to go to our White House correspondent here for Real America's Voice, Natalie Winters, who's standing just outside.
Natalie, how was the press conference?
And give us the reaction when Caroline Levitt said that, in fact, yes, the tariffs will be a place tomorrow.
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Always an honor to join you, even if it's in a guest capacity.
Thank you for letting me co-host yesterday while you were out on assignment.
There was a lot of back and forth, some sort of heated exchange with various members of the press corps over the concept of these tariffs rolling out.
A lot of people questioning what sort of...
The duration in terms of the timing of rolling them out would look like, if there would be any lag time, to which Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said no.
Indeed, they would be rolling out tomorrow smoothly and without really, I think, any opposition, at least coming from internally within the White House.
But a lot of people, I think, trying to get ahead of the president.
Obviously, I guess they haven't read the art of the deal trying to understand what potential concessions could be made to lower or potentially drop these tariffs sort of preemptively or proactively.
Obviously, the Press Secretary did not give in or answer any of those questions.
There are some other really, I think, newsworthy moments from this presser, whether it was the first question coming from that new media seat.
But more importantly, Jack, like we've been talking about, you know, as representing War Room or Real America's voice here in the press briefing room, part of it is obviously what's being said from the podium.
But I think what's almost more interesting is the reaction from so many members of the mainstream media.
And like I said, that first question that came from the Ruthless podcast, he kind of called out the mainstream media.
And let's just say we can get into it after the break.
But the eye rolls, the looks, the stares, the scoffs, they did not like being called out by the new media with the first question.
Let's come right back to that, Natalie.
We're going to hold you over here very quickly.
Natalie Winters at the White House, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.
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He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Posobiec, we're going back now to Natalie Winters.
They're live at the White House.
So, Natalie, you were just in the briefing.
President Trump through Caroline Levitt announcing that the tariffs will be placed tomorrow.
Take us back for a second because the media clearly caught unawares on that one.
They don't actually understand the gravity of the importance.
Fentanyl, open borders, and the Chinese Communist Party are all going to be hit here.
But Natalie, for our audience, Real America's Voice, for the War Room audience, they understand what it's about, don't they?
Of course, yeah, the framing of the questions was really more about how President Trump, is he being, you know, erratic when it comes to the rollout of these terrorists, if he actually means what he says.
It was more trying to have, I think, gotcha moments against this administration, against this White House, to the point someone even asked a question about whether or not President Trump's use of curse words, explicit words, I guess, apparently, That phrase from the legacy of his predecessors, they were very dismayed by that, so they asked if that was just a momentary lapse of judgment, if President Trump just uses bad words because he has no self-control.
That's the level of questions that we're dealing with.
But to your point about the fentanyl, the human trafficking, I think this audience, your audience, understands so much better than, frankly, the viewership of most of the networks in there, let alone the journalists.
Jordan Conradson, I believe from the Gateway Pundit, asked, citing Ben Burquam's reporting on how state and local officials are defying ICE requests not being led into prisons in Chicago to be able to get, whether it's restraining orders or actually just meet face-to-face with these criminal illegal aliens that need to be deported.
That, you know, what the administration's response to that was.
And like I said, in the same way that they rolled their eyes to the new media asking questions about the lying, deceitful press, the mainstream media was rolling their eyes and scoffing.
There were ridiculous hand gestures being made.
So it really is, I mean, frankly, fun to watch them melt down.
But it just shows you the mindset in that room.
It's not about getting the information out to the American people.
It's just trying to get gotcha moments against President Trump.
Absolutely right.
Natalie Winters there at the White House.
Great job covering this week, and I'd like to congratulate you, of course, on the appropriateness of your outfits.
The New York Post just put out a new story on this, so I don't think they're backing down, but hey, that's what you have to do to smear me and our audience, then have at it.
You threw my boss in prison.
We can take it.
The stunning controversy of Natalie Winters and her outfits at the White House.
Who knew?
Thanks so much, Natalie.
Thank you.
Alright, so we just got that there.
Huge, massive breaking news.
New sheriff in town.
But at the same time yesterday, we had this incredible plane crash at Reagan National Airport, DCA. Nick Sartor was there on the scene.
He joins us now.
Nick, what are we getting out of this crash, the plane, the helicopter?
What are they not telling us?
What do you think is going on?
You know, honestly, Jack, I've covered a lot of disasters.
This one is very much different.
I mean, I was about a mile away when it happened from Reagan National.
I was able to get there on the ground very, very quickly.
And this is different in many ways from those other disasters that I've covered, like East Palestine, Maui, Western North Carolina, in that we have...
You've actually been able to get answers from the administration.
You've had Trump himself going out there in front of cameras, going in front of reporters, taking unfiltered, unvetted questions about what's going on.
He's posting about it himself.
And so that's something that we never saw at all from the Biden regime.
Hell, it took until just now to be told that the FAA knew what the drones were in New Jersey.
We had to wait until the Trump administration came in to give that little tidbit of information as well.
What I will say, based on what we know, Jack, people are acting like they're up in arms over the fact that...
President Trump came out and suggested that this could very well be due to DEI policies in the Obama and Biden administrations.
And all signs point to that being true.
You know, what we know, here are the facts.
FAA staffing shortage has been for years.
We also know for a fact that the Obama administration, started under the Obama administration, stopped hiring white males, well-qualified white males for the FAA, so that they could hit those Diversity quotas.
They cared more about that freaking quota than protecting the lives of Americans.
I mean, it's a very high-stress job, Jack.
I mean, you are dealing with hundreds of peoples of lives every single minute.
And also, another fact, we know that the air traffic controller in charge that night was doing the job of two different air traffic controllers due to these staffing shortages.
He was controlling both helicopters and air traffic.
Which are two different frequencies.
So he's listening to at least two different frequencies at the same time.
And if you listen back, if you play back those audio recordings now, you can hear he tried to tell the helicopter to go in a different direction or at least pay more attention to what was in front of him.
After the impact had already happened.
So if we didn't have those staffing shortages, if we weren't worried about what the color of the air traffic controller was, I doubt this would have happened.
I seriously doubt this would have happened.
And, you know, so I would say there's probably an 85% chance that you're going to be able to attribute at least most of this to those DEI hiring practices.
Well, and there's this other question as well as to the third...
Pilot or co-pilot in the helicopter who was on that crew.
We've got the names of two.
One was the crew chief and one was the flight instructor.
But why have they not released the third name at this time?
I think Fox News had some reporting that it was a female.
There was some reporting that it was one person, but it ended up not being that person.
So I think that was more of a rumor, actually.
So what's going on there?
We should be able to confirm.
Obviously, the Army knew who was on the flight.
There seems to be some reason that name.
Yeah, so the reason that had been given so far was that they had to get in touch with the next of kin, but that was early yesterday.
As far as I'm aware, the only one that's been identified publicly is the one that was pulled out of the water.
Apparently, two of them are still In that Blackhawk, which is just a mangled mess still sitting out there in the river.
But yeah, I don't like the delay in the release of that information because it seems like there's been a lot floating around this morning, especially about it possibly being a transgender person that was the pilot in command.
I don't have any reason to believe that that's true.
But the delay...
I think that was actually debunked.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the person they were accusing of being the tranny ended up coming out and saying, oh, well, I'm still alive, so...
So, yes, that was definitely...
Actually, one of the other issues, Nick, so I had the opportunity, I'm going to talk about this in a minute, but I had the opportunity to visit the site with Secretary Noem yesterday, and we actually flew over the wreckage as we were leaving DCA, and you could look down, and some of the briefers were explaining that the helicopter is actually upside down.
In the river, and that's one of the issues that they're having to be able to get at it and to access that cockpit.
Yeah, that's true.
So the Blackhawk is upside down and the plane is also upside down as well.
I don't know if you saw the video this morning, Jack, but when they collided, they basically both inverted and fell.
Directly into the water there.
And I mean, you've still got a lot of bodies in that plane as well.
And initial reports were that some of those bodies that actually come out of the plane don't have any confirmation of that yet.
They haven't released a lot of those gruesome details.
Eventually, we'll end up finding out.
You know, it seems like, Jack, you know, you spent a lot of time in D.C., I spent a lot of time in D.C., and you see these helicopters constantly, all the time.
I mean, it is mayhem in that airspace out there.
I just watched the other day, the day that Pete Buttigieg, or Pete Buttigieg, thank God he's gone, Pete Hegseth was put in, and his first day at the Pentagon over here on Monday.
They were flying Blackhawks very low around the Pentagon.
I tried to get over there and get a video.
I didn't get there in time, though.
And you have a northern approach right there on the...
The Pentagon pretty much butts up to the Potomac River.
And you have...
There's a landing zone there.
That's where the commercial air traffic comes in and lands.
And I'm sitting there thinking, like, oh, my God.
I mean, it's like danger close to going to these airplanes.
And then we find out last night that just 24 hours before...
This plane crash happened in D.C. At the exact same airport, another American Airlines flight had to abort its landing and go around and try again a second time because a helicopter got in front of its flight path.
So apparently this is not a rare occurrence, yet nothing was done about it.
Something is clearly wrong.
And that video that came out this morning, I think, really shows people.
We had seen the trajectories, but you look at it and it almost looks like the helicopter is flying directly into the path of...
I mean, it does fly directly in.
And it almost looks like...
That's what they were intending to do.
Obviously, that's not what they were intending to do, but it's so strange.
And I will say this, you know, having driven with night vision on, I certainly haven't flown a helicopter ever in my life and not with night vision, but I've driven with night vision on it.
It's a very different environment.
The way the technology works, it's not like the movies.
It's very hard to see through those things.
And if that truly was the training that was going on, then I just don't know why you would conduct that training in a place where you've got lights everywhere and the airport and all the rest of it.
I understand that's why you train, but at the same time...
Obviously, very potentially dangerous, and I do understand they've restricted helicopters from that airspace for now.
Next order, where can people go to follow you for all of your updates?
Which, man, you get those tweets up faster than anybody, even me.
I appreciate you, Jack.
If you find me on X, it's the only place that won't ban me.
It's X at N-I-C-K-S-O-R-T-O-R. Next order.
All right, make sure you're following him, Nick Sordor.
And, you know, after you follow Nick, then you can follow me.
But, you know, Nick, I'm going to tell you something.
The guy's got like a 24-7 operation there.
It's an incredible thing to see.
We'll see you.
We'll be right back.
We'll see you.
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So speaking of U.S. residents versus residents of Canada, I had the incredible opportunity.
Thank you so much to the Office of Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem.
For inviting human events to embed with her team yesterday while they're at Reagan DCA National Airport as well as for a trip up to the northern border.
And so the actual station we visited is the one who lost a Border Patrol officer on President Trump's Inauguration Day on January 20th who was killed by a transgender H1B. Temporary worker here in the United States and just a horrific situation and actually the Flak jacket,
the jacket that she's wearing there, the winter jacket, was gifted to her by that border station.
You can see the badge that it has over with the black ribbon was in commemoration of their fallen agent.
And so following all of this, as well as a briefing on northern border operations, I was able to conduct an interview on the tarmac with Secretary Noem.
We're going to play for it right now.
Secretary Noem, we're here at Reagan National Airport, DCA. Terrible incident last night.
Tell us what happened in the morning when you visited.
Yeah, you know, our Coast Guard assets were on the scene immediately and were there all night long.
We put them this morning out on the water.
They're observing the work that they were doing.
We're just so grieved by this tragic accident that happened.
And they continued to do recovery efforts and they were bringing families to closure and to get some of the debris out of the river.
Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone.
And you got to meet with the family and loved ones of the border agent who was killed by a duty on our race day.
I did.
Today was a day of really spending time with grieving families.
The day the president was sworn into office, we brought the border deploy.
Today I had the chance to meet with his brother and his sister-in-law and his fiancee and talk to them about what his life was about.
Talk to some of the men and women up there.
It's amazing how relieved they are.
They finally get to do their jobs.
They finally get to secure the border.
They get to work to make sure that they're fulfilling what questions are for the American people.
And it's amazing.
They asked what they needed.
They asked, can you please get the welfare exam?
And we have basic equipment to do our job as we're following.
They don't have snow tires in Vermont in the winter.
In the winter.
They haven't been allowed to have that under the previous administration.
I committed to them.
We're going to get it for you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
And so there you go.
Just a complete lack of resources up there at the northern border, even though that sector, Swanton sector, where we visited right on the border with Canada was so detrimental.
to their operations.
They had 19,000 arrests just last year alone.
This is a massive explosion from years past.
And again, that was just In their sector.
So you're seeing the people come across, you're seeing drugs come across, you're seeing guns come across, firearms, and they don't have...
By the way, these are foreign nationals even from Mexico that are flying up to Canada and then just walking across.
And just to show you how porous the border is in the north, I did a little video there at a library.
We're going to show that for you now.
So this library Behind me right here actually straddles the border between the United States and Canada.
This behind me is Canada.
Here you can see a sign.
It says, do not enter.
That is the border for the entire northern part of Vermont here between the United States and Canada.
I could invade Canada with snowballs right now.
Perhaps I will.
Trudeau, look out.
Perhaps I will.
Trudeau, look out.
And so that library, interestingly enough, in northern Vermont, it was in place, and many of these towns were in place before the border was settled between the U.S. and Canada.
And this was something that took place over many years.
It took place with the International Boundary Commission, the IBC. And so the...
The building itself, I'm sorry, as a guy who used to be in the U.S. military, as a guy who was in Intel, that, I mean, this is, it's ridiculous.
The whole situation is completely ridiculous.
And of course, it is exploited by bad actors.
Obviously, you can just walk across the border.
Also, that line is inside the library.
And I did a video of myself walking into Canada, out of Canada.
Into Canada, out of Canada.
Yes, I visited the 51st state just yesterday.
One of the issues that they have in this library, of course, is that people have been going in there, and Border Patrol is explaining this to us, is that people go in there, they could be from Iran, they could be from Afghanistan, they could be from Syria, they could be from China, from all different parts of the world, fly to Canada with the proper credentials, and then what they're doing is they're using that library as a meeting place.
So they go into the library, they can meet someone, they can hand over contraband, they can hand over...
They can hand over materials.
They can hand over things that they're not supposed to.
And then the person comes out and is able to walk directly into the United States without any actual border being crossed.
And so if the Border Patrol doesn't have someone there, if library staff doesn't pay attention, obviously they're able to go in.
And so those are great, by the way, people say, oh, are librarians, you know, are they liberal or something?
Actually, no, it wasn't like that at all.
The librarians were extremely proactive about working with Border Patrol.
We're perfectly happy to have them there to help out because they said, look, we want to be a library.
We're not interested in crime.
We don't want criminals here, whether it be transnational or whatever it is.
We don't want anything like that.
And so they were very, very open to having not only the secretary there, but also working with Border Patrol.
You know, they knew the agents very well, were very familiar with them.
And again, they want to be able...
In fact, one of the librarians had a law enforcement background.
And so the idea is they don't want the crime, but the problem is that bad actors are exploiting this.
So here are some videos of the briefing that we received as well up there at Northern Border Station in Swanton.
One of the things that I think people need to realize as well when it comes to the northern border is, you know, I can remember this.
I have memories pre-911 of being a kid and being able to, so, you know, we're from Pennsylvania, so it's very easy, you know, you just hop on the road, you just drive through New York State, and then boom, you're in Canada.
And, you know, pre-911, you used to be able to do this with...
A driver's license.
But globalization changed everything.
Because now, thanks to globalization, there are people in Canada from all over the world.
People who are, in many cases, unvetted.
You have the same problem in the United States.
So when it was just New Englanders and Canadians going back and forth, again, in that pre-911 world that we had.
You didn't have these types of issues that you have now.
But unfortunately, and by the way, we're talking up there some of the worst of the worst.
We're talking killers.
We're talking terrorists.
We're talking traffickers.
And by the way, I mean drugs.
I mean firearms and potentially even worse coming across that northern border.
Yes, even child trafficking because they told us again and again, they told us in just the last fiscal year, so FY24, That they were able to recover 149 unaccompanied children just in their sector coming across the northern border.
That's 149 kids who came over.
And when they say unaccompanied, by the way, that, of course, doesn't mean that they were wandering alone in the forest.
That means that they were coming across with a group that didn't include direct family members.
So no mom, no dad, no older brother, no uncle, anything like that.
That's 149 kids just in this sector alone.
So you think about how bad it is on our borders.
You think about how bad it is on the northern border.
Because so much focus goes to the southern border.
What was Biden doing?
That's what was running through my head the entire time.
And Alejandro Mayorkas and all the rest.
Are we really supposed to think that this was being done to our country by accident?
That these were just unintended consequences?
No.
I disagree with that and I fundamentally reject it.
These were not unintended consequences.
These were the intended consequences.
The intended consequences of destabilizing our nation through mass migration, through open borders, through child trafficking, through fentanyl, through all the rest of it.
That's why when President Trump comes in with these tariffs, it must include Canada and it should include Canada.
And starting tomorrow, it will include Canada as well as Mexico and as well as China that's backstopping it in terms of fentanyl.
It's sick.
It's disgusting.
It's perverted.
And it needs to stop.
All of these things that are being done, look, we can all sit there and pine for the world that we had before, but if you want that world back, then you have to f*** it.
Fight.
And you have to meet the world where it is to understand how to get where we need to go.
Look, I would love to go back to that world where when I was a kid, we could drive to Canada and all my parents had to do was show their driver's licenses.
But you know what?
That type of a high-trust world is only achievable if you fight for it.
I'll be right back.
Jack Posobiec, Human Events, Washington, D.C. Where's Jack?
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
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Alright folks, so J.D. Vance is in this huge controversy because I tweeted this clip out of him in his recent interview with Sean Hannity where he was describing the Christian concept of an ordered love.
An ordered love or what Aquinas later called an ordered charity.
Let's go play the clip now and then I'll explain what's going on here.
But there's this old school, and I think it's a very Christian concept, by the way, that you love your family, and then you love your neighbor, and then you love your community, and then you love your fellow citizens in your own country, and then, after that, you can focus and prioritize the rest of the world.
A lot of the far left has completely inverted that.
They seem to hate the citizens of their own country and care more about people outside their own borders.
That is no way to run a society.
That is not a way.
To run a society.
So what is J.D. Vance?
Getting a little theological there.
Getting a little theological there.
And so this has become our question of the day.
And I put this out on Twitter earlier.
1776 at humanevents.com.
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Because J.D. had some people responding to him.
They were saying this is upsetting.
This is not Christian, what you're talking about.
How dare you?
How dare you say these things, J.D. Vance?
This is not Christian at all.
Jesus said, love everybody.
Just love everybody.
You should just love.
And, you know, Christianity is all about love.
That's it.
There's nothing else.
Just love, love, love, love, love.
You know, it's like a Lady Gaga song.
And the response, of course, the response from J.D. Vance was, look up Ordo.
Ordo amortis.
Ordo amortis.
So what does that mean?
The order of love.
The order of love.
So this goes back to St. Augustine, it goes back to Thomas Aquinas, and it also goes back, by the way, to St. Paul himself.
Yes, St. Paul, right here, 1 Timothy, chapter 5, verse...
Where are we at?
Verse 8, So what does this mean?
Well, think of the Ten Commandments, for example.
And yes, Protestants and Catholics have a slightly different variation on the order of that, but there is an order there.
It starts with God and it flows from there.
Then it goes to the family, then it goes mother and father, and then it goes to others, and then finally it goes to society.
And so the idea being then that this is the order.
For purposes of understanding, people say, well, hold on a second.
Now, when he says nation, what does that mean?
Are you talking about race?
Are you talking about country?
Are you talking about this?
And obviously, it's complicated.
But the point is, this helps us actually cut through the disorder of so many people, of so many things out there where, for example, so...
Jump back and juxtapose this with what happened just about one week ago, right, just 10 days ago, where the last time I was with J.D. Vance and President Trump, as well as the First Lady and the Second Lady and most members of the senior staff of the White House, we were at the White House Prayer Service over there at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C. And that's when we had the bishopess.
Yes, you remember the bishopess.
And she was up there saying, oh no, no, no, no.
Don't deport anyone.
Don't deport the illegals.
You have to let them stay.
You have to do all of this.
And this is where the teaching comes in.
Aquinas called it Ordo Caritatis, the Order of Charities.
And so what it's actually talking about is, sure.
You are called to love your neighbor and even called to love your enemy.
But at the same time, the expression of that in our lives comes through our duties and our responsibilities.
Now, and that's something, by the way, that with these woke churches, you're not going to hear anyone talk about duty or responsibility.
They barely even talk about sin.
So duty and responsibility flow differently.
I actually talked about this in my MFAS speech.
God, family, country.
Simple as that.
God, family, country is another way of saying this.
So you have your duty to God, and then God calls you to make your family.
And so you make your family to do your duty to God, and then you also must make a country that is worthy of your family.
So you must be worthy of God, you must make a family that is worthy of God, and then you must make a country that is worthy of your family.
And also worthy of God.
That's why I explained at AmFest.
I didn't expect it to turn into this massive thing.
This is also expressed in the heat map meme, which is something, if you go to knowyourmeme.com, that apparently I helped popularize.
I didn't come up with this thing.
But it's this idea that conservatives view the world in concentric circles of those that are closest to us being those that we care about more and focus on more.
Versus those further away and, you know, higher concepts like the universe and rocks and plants and trees.
Whereas with liberals, it's inverted.
And that's basically what JD is saying.
And so we just got a message in here from Pauline.
Pauline is saying that JD Vance is spot on regarding ordered love.
I grew up Anabaptist, Mennonite.
Wow.
which placed loving your enemy as the highest good with an emphasis on non-resistance in all circumstances.
And I remember that even as a child, finding it highly immoral that a man who, when presented with the opportunity, would choose to believe that disregarding the safety and protection of his own family would be the morally superior position in an effort to love his enemy.
I honestly didn't even believe that it was possible in terms of non-resistance and safety and the family.
Likewise, if Wow, this is tough, but it's a moral question and that's why it's tough.
If two kids are drowning and one of them is my child, my basic foundational instinctive response will be to save my own child.
That does not mean that I did not love my neighbor or care about the other child.
This is the email I'm reading.
It simply means that I instinctively did that which I have been hardwired by God to do.
It is a basic human God-given instinct to love in an ordered way.
And that works its way out from God to family and to the uttermost parts of the world.
That was an incredible email.
Thank you so much from that.
Here's one from Caroline.
Perfect example of common sense playing a big part in the way we live our lives.
Here's one from...
Vesha Pisces and she wrote, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime.
Teach a man to give his fish away to other men far away because they never learned how to fish.
And that's not like fair and stuff is suicide for all parties.
Spot on.
Spot on.
And here's one from Sandra Lena.
It says, God, myself, my spouse, my family, my children and parents, an extended family, my friends and coworkers, my immediate neighborhood, my country, my state, my nation, my nation's allies.
Great emails in on this.
Great emails.
Love the discussion.
Keep them coming.
1776 at humanevents.com.
I think that what J.D. Vance has done here is really break through and expose the disorder that has been taught for so many years by false prophets.
So we'll be right back with a very special segment here at Human Events Daily.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back here.
Human Events Daily.
March for Life took place about a week ago, and we wanted to do a follow-up segment on that.
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From that event when we had the absolute joy of meeting Joan Andrews Bell right there on the steps of the Supreme Court, a pro-life activist, an icon, and a hero who was pardoned by President Trump and was there at the march.
And now she joins us today.
We've got Joan and her husband, Chris, here on Human Events Daily.
Thanks so much for coming on, guys.
We're honored.
We're very honored to be here.
Well, tell me, what was it like when you found out that President Trump was going to be signing your pardon?
Such incredible joy because I think he's a great, great human being and a God-centered person.
I think God is going to do great, even greater things with him.
And then to be pardoned by him, it was so special.
And then being pardoned on the baby to be at the march, getting out.
He was pardoned the day before, the 23rd, but to get released on the day of the march was even more special.
So it made my day.
Made my years.
Made a lot.
Made many years.
And now, so what was, and just for the audience, this sentence was not something that was a light sentence at all.
This was not, you know, a couple of days or a couple of weeks.
How long was the sentence that you were supposed to be in for?
27 months, and then there was three years unsupervised probation, and then community service.
But I think my judge knew I would not do probation.
She did know.
That's why she gave me unsupervised, I think.
I can't make any reason why she gave me unsupervised.
But I've never done probation, never will do probation, because it's cooperating with an evil sentence.
Sentencing someone to jail or restricting someone and trying to hamper somebody, discourage somebody, tempting someone.
Not to do what they, in their heart, know they should do for their babies.
That's what probation is.
So I can never accept that.
And that's why instead of doing six months in Florida, I ended up with a five-year sentence because I refused to do six months in jail with no jail time.
So I think that's why I got the supervised.
But still, I would have to meet with someone at least the first time I refused to do that.
But actually, what we really were facing was 13 years, wasn't it?
13 years.
11 years.
So I think what all I said is important, our dear Lauren got almost five years, four years and 10 months.
So they were trying to crush rescue again.
And rescue is so beautiful, nonviolent, peaceful, prayerful, very loving.
And they don't want it.
They know it's effective.
It saves lives.
And they were trying to crush it.
And so, Jack, what you also have to realize is the Biden-Harris Department of Justice went out of their way to create a conspiracy charge, which was a law post-Civil War that was...
To prevent really Democrats from taking the rights away of the newly freed slaves to own property and to vote.
If you were conspiring with your friend or neighbor to stop these newly freed slaves from Participating in the American economy, in the American way of life, then you could get up to 10 years.
And they heap that onto a FACE charge, which also is an outrageous law, the Freedom to Access Clinic Entry FACE, which was trying to stop the peaceful rescues that were giving women real alternatives.
We know from surveys today that women who have had abortions That more than 60% of them did not want to do it.
They felt coerced.
Or they were going against their strongly held personal beliefs.
Not always religious beliefs, but just their personal beliefs that they should not have an abortion.
And those are the women who've had an abortion.
And we know also that when women are prevented, and this comes from the other side, when women are prevented from having an abortion, they...
One week to one month to one year later, they don't regret the fact that they didn't get the abortion because why?
They have a baby.
And once they have a baby, their whole worldview changes.
And really, a rescue is helping women not do something they don't want to do in the first place and then giving them The opportunity to hold their own child, regardless of how they got pregnant or what the circumstances are, because that just brings joy to most women.
And I love that you refer to them as rescues.
We don't have a lot of time here in this segment, but I just want to say thank you so much for everything that you do.
And my last question, of course, for Joan is, do you expect to go back?
Are you going to be getting back to work?
Definitely doing full-time pro-life work with my family.
Bring the kids out to the abortion mill.
I'm not planning to risk arrest immediately because I have now nine grandkids that I am seven years old and younger.
But if God lays on my heart, I have to obey God first.
So I'm definitely going to continue with rescue and especially if we're going to overcome this space.
But I can never say I won't and can't.
Because you can never agree not to try to save a child's life.
And it's no different than people who harbored the Jews and not to Germany.
