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Jan. 30, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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The Historic Confirmation Hearings of Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr.

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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Well, you've probably discerned by now it's not Jack Posobiec.
It's Natalie G. Winters of The War Room filling in for the next hour.
But don't go anywhere.
We're, of course, going to be dipping in and out of the hearings going on right now.
We have some people, boots on the ground, providing us live coverage.
But you're probably wondering where the one and only Jack Posobiec is.
So I'm going to do something that we're not used to doing here, I guess, in...
The War Room or Human Events Daily.
That's reading something verbatim, but this is so awesome for Jack for this show.
I want to read it straight from the press.
Jack Posobiec is on assignment with Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem in Vermont to be with the family of the Border Patrol agent who was tragically killed on January 20th.
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Hence why, like I said, you probably picked up on it by now, Natalie Winters sitting here filling in for none other.
But don't worry, you're still going to get your brother's Posobiec fix because we actually have the one and only Kevin Posobiec joining us down the line, I believe, outside of the Hart Senate Office Building, which is where the Kash Patel hearing, you just saw a little bit of live footage from, and I'm sure you've already seen the clips coming out today.
Coming in, I believe, like I said, from the Hart Senate Office Building is Kevin Posobiec, who's been there in person watching it.
Kevin, if you could put us in the room for our viewers who aren't fortunate enough to be there.
What is the energy like in terms of the crowd?
And more importantly, how do you think the hearing has been going so far?
Hey, Natalie, nice to see you up there again.
Thanks for stepping up.
Yeah, we're down here at the Hart Building to room 216 for Cash's confirmation hearing.
It was a blast, and they're still going on, actually, but so many great things coming out of there, and I'm hearing Tulsi and RFK also add...
Pretty successful meetings as well.
And one of the things I wanted to point out with Cash, especially, so many good quotes he was saying was, one was like, we want to have just parks to play in again and not needles to walk on.
Everybody was trying to berate him, all the Democrat senators, just trying to get him in on this and that.
And he just wants to bring back law and order, really.
Like, that's it.
That's it.
He just wants to uphold the Constitution and go after the bad guys.
And he kept saying, like, just keeping it simple and getting the D.C. police, especially the Capitol Police and all law enforcement, I mean, the premier service of the whole world, to be the FBI. Only 40% of Americans have faith and trust in the FBI right now.
And Cash is going to swear in to his oath to restore that, to restore that for everybody.
And he's been on there since 9.30 this morning.
Testifying to that.
And it's amazing to see.
I mean, all that and he's got another one I was happy to see was Josh Hawley came out in force just asking, hey, are you going to continue to investigate Catholics for their extremist views here?
Or are we going to go after like real terrorists and knock in their doors and the drug cartels and stop?
Allowing all the fentanyl to come over the border.
Like, what charges have we seen any Catholics do, let alone any also heralded religious freedom, too?
And Kevin, I'm just curious.
We've got about a minute and a half before we've got a cut to break.
Obviously, we've heard time and time again all the sort of go-to cliché attacks that they used against Kash Patel.
Were there any sort of novel assertions, obviously absurd and false and smear campaigns, but were there any new attacks that they sort of unveiled today exclusively?
Saving them for the hearings today, or was it just more same old, same old?
All right, thanks, Natalie.
Yeah, that's great.
You know, it's incredible to see Cash up there.
He was saying every time a senator came out that every seven minutes in this country, there's statistically, what did he say, two?
Two overdoses, one murder, and three rapes every seven minutes.
So what are we doing with all this belittling him, asking him if he's...
Honestly, there was a lot of shout-out to the war room, really.
They kept talking about the national anthem, so we'll take it.
We'll take the free press.
And especially because we donated all the money to charity towards the families of injustice.
And he's already starting day one here.
It's pretty great to see.
It's great to be down here.
Yeah, I'd love to audit all the senators who are calling for such fine-tuned audits of Kash Patel.
Maybe we'll get those.
Kevin, I think we're going to jump back to the hearing.
It seems like some explosive stuff is probably already going down.
In the meantime, though, thank you so much for covering these hearings live.
If people want to follow you, stay up to date with your analysis of this and so much more.
more, where can they go to do that?
It looks like we're just going to go to cash.
Let's go back to Kash.
...leadership that have politicized the law enforcement mission, and I have spent a career removing politics from law enforcement, and that's what the National Sheriff's Association is all about, and I believe that's why they endorsed me as a nominee for the first time ever.
So that's why they like you.
That's why they support you.
That's why they've chosen to come out fully in support of your nomination, of getting you confirmed.
Because you share that view.
A view that has been expressed by nearly every member of this committee today, I would add.
And this group, a very large group of law enforcement officials from throughout the United States of America, has come in in support of you because of that.
As they do that, they express confidence in you specifically and in your ability, in particular, to bring back, quote, transparency, integrity, collaboration, and commitment to excellence within the FBI. Tell me what you'll do in order to do that and how you'll commit to work with other law enforcement, both within the FBI, elsewhere within the federal government, and with state and local law enforcement officials to bring that back.
Senator, the only way to truly remove weaponization and politicization from law enforcement is to follow the Constitution.
And if you look at the FBI's website and their mission statement and their core values, each has eight.
And the eighth and last core value of the mission statement on the FBI's website right now is fighting violent crime.
That needs to be number one.
The eighth core value out of all core values on the FBI's website right now is rigorous obedience to the Constitution.
That needs to be number one.
Reorienting these policies with an effective leadership in place to follow the law.
We'll allow us to achieve a singular standard of constitutional law enforcement.
And that is the only way you remove the weaponization from politics, excuse me, from law enforcement.
And that's what the sheriffs are talking about, and that's what cops are talking about.
If men and women were angels, we wouldn't need government.
If we had angels to govern us, we wouldn't need a constitution.
We're not angels.
We don't have access to them.
So we've got to follow the rules, and that's your top job.
I appreciate your support for the constitution.
Senator Whitehouse.
Mr. Patel, you're...
Supposedly know something about grand juries.
I just went to the DOJ website to get language.
I'm quoting it.
Federal rule of criminal procedure 6E prohibits most persons present during the proceedings from disclosing what transpired inside the grand jury room.
However, the proscription does not apply to witnesses.
Do you now As a grand jury witness, authorize this committee access to a transcript of your own testimony.
Senator, I authorize this committee to get whatever is appropriate and lawful, as I've said before.
Specifically including the transcript of your grand jury testimony, which you have the authority to authorize us.
Well, I don't know if I singularly have that authority.
I don't think that's how grand jury testimony works.
You do because you are the witness who can do that.
There's also a court order on that case, sir.
Separately, you can get grand jury testimony by court order.
The witnesses can always reveal their grand jury testimony.
Do you authorize us to get access to your testimony?
I authorize this committee to lawfully obtain any records that they are appropriately allowed to get.
And we are only, you're speaking in circles now, because we're only lawfully authorized to get that with your permission as the witness.
Do you give us that permission?
Senator, I'm not an expert on this constitutional standard, and so I can't commit to something that I don't know.
It's not expert.
It's like super simple.
Grand jury rule 6E doesn't apply to witnesses.
This is not hard.
You are a witness.
That is a simple fact.
You can authorize us to see it.
I'm just relying on my time as a prosecutor where grand jury witnesses were not allowed.
To share what they were testifying to.
And when I was commissioned before the judge...
Grand jury witnesses are allowed to speak about what they were told about what they said in the grand jury unless they're under a specific court order.
Are you under a specific court order not to reveal your testimony in the grand jury?
Senator, I can't go into court orders granted by the D.C. District Chief Judge.
If they apply to you, of course you can.
You want me to violate a court order?
You're saying that there's a secret court order in which you can't tell whether you're subject to a court order or not?
I'm telling you that if you find the applicable court order and it permits this request...
I don't need a court order if you give authorization.
I'm not the one that has the authority to do that.
Yes, you are, as a witness.
You're just wrong on that.
Second, the FBI has records related to the criminal investigations of Donald Trump.
Will you protect those records in a manner consistent with ordinary FBI document preservation practices as head of the FBI? All records will.
No destruction of documents to please Trump?
No, I think he put forth a memo saying all records must be preserved.
Good.
Are you done?
Time's up.
Senator Kennedy.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Patel, did you listen to what my colleague, Senator Welsh, had to say about politicizing the FBI and the Department of Justice?
I did, sir.
I did, too.
I always listen when Senator Welsh speaks.
And he's right.
But here's where we find ourselves today, and you can put an end to this.
For better or worse, either in reality or perception, in modern times, the FBI has been politicized.
Or at least there's an appearance.
It started with Mr. James Comey.
He publicly investigated the political nominee of both major parties.
Guinness Book of World Records.
He publicly investigated both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
Held a press conference.
Hurt that agency more than I will ever know.
I wouldn't put...
I wouldn't put Mr. Comey in charge of a ham sandwich.
And so did Peter Strzok.
And so did Lisa Page.
And so did Michael Sussman.
And the person who gave him a Hillary Clinton lawyer, a pass, to roam around the Department of Justice and the FBI at will.
And so did the prosecutors who tried to slip by a two misdemeanor plea deal for the president's son.
And it hurts me to say this, but so did Attorney General Garland.
For the first time in the history of ever, the Attorney General Garland chose to prosecute A former president of the United States.
And this part is really special.
He did it after the former president of the United States announced that he would be a candidate against his, Attorney General Garland's boss.
Forget the merits.
We can argue those all day long.
You understand the perception?
It's got to end now.
The seal has been broken.
We've got to stop it now.
Don't go over there and burn down that agency.
You go over there and lift it up.
Clean it out, but lift it up in accordance with due process and the rule of law.
Because Senator Welch is right.
This has got to end now.
Thank you, Chairman Grassley.
Mr. Patel, our agencies, in particular the FBI and DOJ, critically rely on inspectors general and general counsels for advice.
As Chair Grassley, and many of us have long recognized, federal agencies rely on the independent oversight of inspectors general, and agencies depend on the legal advice of offices of general counsel.
And as you've testified today, it's your intention to lead the FBI within the boundaries of law and the Constitution.
Last week, President Trump fired more than a dozen inspectors general and provided no notice to Congress.
We passed a law in 2022 requiring the President to provide Congress with a substantive rationale, including detailed and case-specific reasons, 30 days before the removal of NAIG. How many days has President Trump been in office?
Sorry, Senator, approximately 10. 10. Is it possible to give 30 days notice in 10 days?
I'm not great at math, but it doesn't sound like it.
It doesn't.
You're an attorney.
Did Trump violate, facially violate this law in terms of the timing of the firing of the inspectors general?
Senator, I'm not going to entertain a hypothetical on legal violations, but I will look into all possible legal violations referred.
I'll simply say that for those of us concerned about the quality and the...
Duration of service of inspectors general, this was troubling.
And frankly, I think it is a facial violation of a law passed by Congress.
In September 2023, on the Great America Show, a podcast, you said, and I believe I'm quoting accurately, all these general counsel's offices throughout every agency and department need to be slashed in half because these lawyers just come in there and they come in there to slow down and paralyze the movement of the America First agenda.
Mr. Patel, does that comment suggest that if confirmed, it would be your intention to fire the career civil servants, the lawyers in the FBI's general counsel office?
No.
Could you give us any reassurance that it would be your intention to listen to the advice and counsel of the inspector general of the department and the general counsel of the agency?
With addressing those in order, Senator, with IGs, as you know, I believe, And I've shown throughout this proceeding that IGs have provided valuable service in Republican and Democratic administrations, and I think they're critical, and we must have competent IGs going forward.
Similarly, with general counsel's offices who are stocked with career employees, those employees must continue their work so long as no employee politicizes the work and mission of the FBI. Thank you.
My core concern about these firings of the IGs, about The independence of the agency have not been fully satisfied.
I appreciate your answers here today, but I remain concerned by your previous statements and your answers here today.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Before I recognize Cruz, Senator has some unanimous consent request.
Mr. Chairman, I have two letters here.
I'd ask unanimous consent to be entered into the record.
One is from William Webster, FBI Director under Presidents Carter and Reagan and CIA Director under Reagan and Bush.
He's in the audience.
And another from 23 Republican former law enforcement officials.
These are letters in opposition to the nomination.
Without objection, so ordered, Senator Cruz.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Patel, in the first round of questioning, you and I talked about the politicization and weaponization of the FBI and the Department of Justice.
That has significant negative consequences in terms of undermining trust in the FBI and the Department of Justice and abusing the power of the FBI and the Department of Justice.
But it also has consequences in that it diverts resources At the FBI and DOJ from urgent law enforcement and national security priorities.
I will tell you, when I go back home to Texas, I am somewhat regularly asked by Texans, should we abolish the FBI? Now, my answer to that is an emphatic no.
The FBI has a critical mission of stopping bad guys.
Whether serial killers or human traffickers or child molesters or terrorists.
But it says something that a sizable percentage of America has so lost faith in the Bureau that they believe it should be shut down.
I think allowing the FBI to be politicized has resulted in far too little attention.
Being placed on very serious national security risk.
That while we may disagree on the meaning of Rule 6E as to getting the transcript, you would not object to this committee seeking access to that transcript?
No.
And you're aware that Rule 6E permits you to talk about your own testimony.
Will you testify to this committee?
Let's say in a classified setting as to what you said to the grand jury.
Senator, I'm here to testify to this committee about everything I'm allowed to.
You're allowed under Rule 6E to tell us what you said to the grand jury.
This is kind of the first day that an assistant U.S. attorney goes to the first grand jury and is asked by a witness, can I talk about what I told you?
And the answer is yes, you know.
Senator, I will consult with counsel and provide the appropriate answer.
Let me just say right to the point, Mr. Patel, what are you hiding?
Why won't you tell us?
You testified under a grant of immunity after taking the Fifth Amendment, as you're privileged to do, and the appearance here is that you have something to hide.
I submit to my colleagues on the committee, we need to know what the grand jury testimony is.
We need access to that.
Second volume.
And you have no objection to our seeking it, but you won't tell us, even in a classified, confidential setting.
I think that position is disqualifying.
That was days of testimony years ago.
I don't have the ability to recollect that.
Well, you can refresh your recollection with access to the transcript.
Let me ask you another topic.
And I really regret that...
You won't cooperate with us on the grand jury testimony.
Would you object to the firing of the Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz?
Would I object to it?
That's the providence for the Attorney General to make.
It's not something I would participate in.
But you know of his work.
It's been bipartisan, very thorough, competent, objective, impartial.
He has been critical in Republican and Democratic administration.
Won't you object to his firing?
I think he's done a great job, but it's not up to me to decide who stays and goes at the Department of Justice.
But I'm not asking you to make the decision.
I'm asking you whether you will take a stand, speak up, stand up in favor of a watchdog who has helped preserve the integrity of the Department of Justice and aligned himself against waste and fraud and abuse.
If the Attorney General asks me, yes, for my opinion.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Bertel, I want to continue on a brief topic I mentioned earlier and one that we discussed in my office when you came to visit in December, and that is Redstone Arsenal and the FBI assets and the men and women that will report to you when confirmed that are there in Huntsville, Alabama.
I really want you to come and visit with me.
The state-of-the-art facilities that we have there are pretty incredible.
I mean, when you look across the board, we have the Ballistics Research Facility, the Hazardous Device School.
We have TDAC, which is the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytics Center.
And last but not least, obviously, what is sometimes referred to as Headquarters South.
We have the sprawling north and south campus of the FBI. Look, there has been over $4 billion invested there.
It is truly remarkable that the training that is going on there, they are delivering to missions when it comes to emerging technologies, investigating lead generation, security, and contracts personnel, and human resources, just to name a few.
Fortunately, I don't have enough time in my three minutes to dive into all of the incredible work that's doing there, but just want to reiterate that the workforce occupying These facilities, they were moved from DC to Huntsville.
They are working diligently each and every day to make sure that men and women in uniform are the best trained, equipped and ready that there is.
And I would love a commitment from you just to come with me to visit those facilities, see what those men and women are doing, what they're learning and all of the training that's right there at their fingertips.
Senator, you have that commitment, and this is a great example real quick, of the FBI's capabilities and infrastructure systems around the country that already exist to the tune of billions.
And not only is it, I believe, a 38,000-acre sprawling campus, this Congress billeted 2,500 seats, but 4,000 seats still remain open.
So let's go to work.
I'll come to Alabama, and let's fill those seats.
Absolutely.
I love it.
I'd love to hear that.
And another thing, too, obviously, as we've looked over the last couple of years, I'll put on my appropriator hat.
The budget, obviously, for the FBI has been decreased.
Obviously, you're going to help us return America's trust in the FBI. But as we look at that and we try to make those numbers work, I just want on your radar, I want you to be thoughtful about this.
You know, it's easy to say let's cut training.
That's an easy thing to cut first.
I think that that's the worst thing that we can do.
We want to make sure that our men and women are ready, that they're ready to find leads that lead.
To child trafficking rings and other things, and you've talked about the rapes, the fentanyl overdoses, the murders.
We want to make sure that we are equipping them with all the tools necessary to...
...this rhetoric that had been used against you.
Of course.
...of this sort of hateful language.
I am deeply sympathetic.
I also note, Mr. Patel, that in the past, you have recognized the value of diversity.
Back when you were in law school, you signed on to an amicus brief in the Grither case, supporting consideration of race in law school admissions.
I hope that joining the Trump administration will not cause you to change your views on the value of diversity.
It is sad that we are considering Mr. Patel's nomination despite his gross inadequacy to do the job of FBI director fairly and objectively.
Yet there is no question that much pressure has been brought to bear on my Republican colleagues to support this nomination.
For example, a man named Mike Davis has been threatening my Republican colleagues.
He said, That this vote was a red line.
That if Senate Republicans don't vote to confirm Mr. Patel, his organization, a group called the Article 3 Project, would make their lives and not based on this sort of pressure.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I want to give you a chance to respond to this because I think my colleagues are misstating the law here.
You can't authorize the release of your grand jury testimony.
Only a court can do that.
Is that right?
That's been my understanding.
Yeah, and I think you've stated that the best reflection and the most accurate version of your testimony is the transcript in the grand jury testimony that you're fine to be released, but the court has to go do that, right?
Yes, sir.
Yeah, okay.
And it lasted like three or four days?
Is that what you were saying?
Yes.
Yeah.
I also want to, Senator Durbin's talked about, you know, what your priority or your priorities will be.
And I think your testimony has been that it'll be adherence to the Constitution and the people of the United States of America, right?
You take that very seriously.
That's it.
That's the only thing that matters.
Could you talk about maybe some other priorities?
We talked initially in my first round about getting the FBI back.
To its core mission, which is to fight crime and not, you know, sort of try to do the things that it's been doing the last four years.
Talk about how you might bring that together.
So, Senator, I appreciate the questions.
Something I wanted to address maybe six hours ago, so I appreciate the opportunity to do it now.
Whether we prioritize going after violent crime and national security, we cannot defend against either of those successfully unless we go after the underlying criminal nexus there.
And whether it's human trafficking, whether it's terrorism, whether it's opioids, and whether it's just outright gang violence, the intersection there is narco trafficking.
It is the underlying underbelly.
The evil, illegal underbelly of all those operations.
And we have not prioritized, in my opinion, as a law enforcement agency, the collective power we can rain down on criminal narco-trafficking networks.
And ideally, if I'm confirmed, Senator, I would like to work with Attorney General Pam Bondi, if she could be confirmed.
To set up Regional Drug Interdiction Task Force, where our local sheriff's offices, our local PDs, and our local precincts are folded in with the FBI on an information and authority sharing basis to take down the criminal networks.
And the advice and consent process has been extremely informative of this to me.
I do not know your jurisdictions as well as you all ever will.
That's what makes this so critically important educational.
I did not know that Memphis was the homicide capital of America per capita.
I did not know that there was a corridor in Ohio that speaks to the human trafficking volume more so than any intersection in the country.
That is what I will rely on your expertise across the aisle to fold in those resources and target those criminal active hotbeds.
And I believe if we are successful in actually crippling the narco trafficking networks, we will see a decrease monumental in violent crime and at the same time protecting America's national security.
And maybe, just maybe, we're...
You have a third of the personnel for the FBI here in Washington, D.C. Maybe, just maybe.
One of the reforms is to get more of those folks out into those areas across the country to go do that, right?
That's what you're talking about.
I think so, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Patel, do you know any of these five individuals?
Erica Knight.
You are still here watching human events.
Don't worry, we will go back to the hearing, but we are joined for a special interview that I wanted to bring you guys with none other.
How many times we get to have chefs here joining us on Real America's Voice.
But Chef Andrew Gruul, I'm sure you've seen not just his wonderful food, but his great posts all over X. I feel like you go viral all the time.
I'm honored to have you joining us.
I know you wanted to talk about the RFK confirmation hearings, the Maha movement more broadly.
I think you have an interesting perspective.
Being a chef, working so intimately with food, obviously the food supply I think is one of the vectors that the Maha movement is kind of most, I would say, on offense about whether it's The depleted minerals in the soil or just the weird, woke dietary guidelines and regulations that they're trying to push on us.
I'm curious if you just want to kind of give the audience your perspective, your vantage point from the confirmation hearings that we've heard with respect to RFK Jr. Well, first and foremost, I'm absolutely shocked that there is so much pushback when it comes to RFK because I've been in this space now of kind of food systems and sustainability and obviously running restaurants for 10, 15 years.
And it was 10 or 15 years ago when I started really talking about local food systems that the only support I actually got, funny enough, was from some of these kind of left-leaning hippies who were all about it.
And now those same people are out there decrying.
RFK Jr. as a conspiracy theorist.
So it's all just political talking points.
This is the most bipartisan confirmation I think I've seen in at least a decade.
And yet, for some reason, it's controversial.
All he's asking for is that we actually break up the consolidated food manufacturers who are running our entire food system, quite literally, also on the restaurant side of things, and allow a lot of these small and local farmers to access the supply chain and to get people to understand why it's important to eat healthier and allow a lot of these small and local farmers to Get a lot of these chemicals, which quite frankly are more medicine-like than they are food-like, out of our food system.
And that doesn't necessarily mean by unilateral decree or banning, but just the mere education will decrease the demand.
I see it on the restaurant side because all we are forced through is all that's forced on us are all of these processed, chemically-laden foods in the form of rebates and subsidies that restaurateurs get up front.
and then they have to buy through one of the three big distributors.
And I've been fighting against that for years, which is why it's been somewhat of a grassroots movement on the chef's side of things.
And of course, all of these other chefs are now quiet about RFK because all of the propaganda has hit the airwaves.
He's just trying to get people good, healthy food and allow us as chefs and foodies to access that in a much easier manner.
I'm also a father of four.
I've got four kids.
So this vaccine issue is also really important to me.
We've moved our kids out of the public school system because we weren't going to subject them to the crazy litany of vaccines that are out there.
I've already got one child who did have a vaccine injury, and we know exactly what it's like.
But for us to just say, hey, maybe we should look at this.
And to have people call me a conspiracy theorist for asking questions is absurdity at its peak.
It's the apex of absurdity.
So I'm really vested in this, obviously, but it's pretty simple.
And if you think about it, it's very, very bipartisan.
But it's just another example of the way in which the propaganda machine in conjunction with big government and, of course, big media comes together to try and brainwash Americans.
Well, there's such an interesting bifurcation, I think, between food and medicine, where despite all these Democrat senators who look like they could use a walk or a workout, lecturing us about how they really, really care about health.
They just don't like how RFK is going about it.
But I think you hit the nail on the head, how food and food systems and food supply chains are such a critical part of all of this.
I'm curious, from your sort of insider experience, you know, I think most restauranteurs, chefs, in some capacity, are involved in whether it's the trade or industry associations.
That obviously don't represent consumers, don't represent families, don't represent the average American citizen.
What do you think the pressure is right now on a lot of these senators to vote against him?
What does sort of that whipping of votes, the pressure campaigns coming from Big Pharma or people like Mike Pence who are getting a bunch of money to shill against RFK, in your sort of experience, what do you think that is looking like behind the scenes?
Well, that's what I keep talking about.
It's all about special interest money, right?
So we see it on the restaurant side of things because all these massive food manufacturers, they pump so much money into the supply chain through the massive distributors and then ultimately to the chefs to say, look, if you commit to buying this product and here's all the fake health benefits of it, we're going to give you $50,000 up front in the form of a rebate, which is really just them giving we're going to give you $50,000 up front in the form of a And then you pay double the amount back over a certain period of time.
And they know that restaurateurs are strapped with cash because it's the most margin-tight industry.
So they use that money to manipulate the chefs to try and control the consumer base to manage what they consider to be trends.
And what I think is hilarious.
Let's use seed oils as an example.
Over the past three to four years, suddenly talking about seed oils is conspiratorial, right?
It's a right-wing conspiracy to say that you don't want seed oils.
And you actually now have left-wing influencers who know nothing about health going out there and saying, oh, yeah, I'm going to chug my canola oil or I'm going to, you know, there's nothing wrong with Coke.
And now they're fitness experts.
That's what I love about this.
I've been doing this my whole life.
And now, you know, every Twinkie on the left is a fitness expert.
First of all, you know, you're a barrel-chested freak and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but you're just being paid from an influencer side of things.
Now extrapolate that across a massive industry, restaurants and food service, and you've got chefs and general managers and restaurant owners who are taking that same money and they're saying, Yeah, we're going to use soybean oil.
We're only going to use canola oil.
And why would I use butter or why would I use healthy fats?
That's a bad thing.
And then their customers hear that and they say, you know, the local restaurant, that chef and restaurant owner said it was a bad thing and therefore he's an expert.
Now you can take what they're doing in food service.
Now apply that to to medicine.
Right.
And doctors are the chefs or, you know, nurses.
They're the chefs in this world.
And everybody looks to them as the experts.
So it's all about that money coming down.
Right.
Hitting the people who need it.
Politicians, you know, the lobbyists know what buttons to push and then chefs, restaurateurs.
And you can extrapolate this also into fitness and so many other industries.
And then that money talks and it goes right back up to the top and then it comes back out.
And where you see it being distilled is on the distribution into kids' school foods, right?
Subsidies and what they're being fed is disgusting.
And that's why kids are sick.
And then when you see SNAP benefits, you see people getting food stamps and all they're getting is bags of Doritos and Coke and all this bad food.
And I'm not saying we should ban any of that.
Don't get me wrong.
I love a Diet Coke from time to time and I'll crush some Doritos.
But if you're using taxpayer dollars, right, to support these big food manufacturers only to make people and especially kids sick, well, that's a broken system.
I would much rather if those dollars are going to be spent, I'd much rather see them spent to support small farmers, independent farmers who are producing good meat.
Regenerative agriculture, things that are actually perpetuating a much healthier ecosystem and encouraging the biodiversity of our ecosystem as opposed to ripping it apart with GMOs, just monocropping and subsidies that ruin our soil.
It's the new, I guess, 2025 version of bread and circuses, except the circuses are a lot worse, and who knows what's in the bread that they're trying to feed us.
Chef Andrew Gruel, I think you're the first chef I've interviewed, hopefully not the last time.
I know you've got a wonderful book about making food, being in the kitchen, something that you can do with your wonderful family.
Give us a little 30-second plug on that and how people can stay up to date with everything you're working on.
Yeah, this is our family cookbook.
So this is about getting people in the kitchen.
It's real simple.
It's approachable.
It's easy.
No seed oils.
Because in the kitchen, that's where people come together.
We've lost community and we've lost kind of our moral North Star as well.
And I say that happens when family sits around the table.
Food is the great unifier.
You can get our cookbook at andrewcookbook.com.
It's really simple.
It's a partnership with Brave Books, which is a wonderful company, publishing company as well, with good morals and good values.
And that's what this cookbook is all about.
Let's just get into the kitchen, knock down some of those barriers, and even just cooking more one more time a week with your family will make a huge difference in everybody's life.
Andrew, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back on soon, hopefully to celebrate the confirmation of none other than RFK Jr. And I want to pivot to another...
I guess, angle of attack that people who certainly are opposing RFK Jr. love to go and try to destroy this country with, usually when you're talking about, what, chants like death to America, you have to look overseas.
But I guess in this case, you don't really have to look that far.
I'm coming at you live from Washington, D.C., so I guess I probably could just, what, walk outside five feet and find some crazy, deranged, although now defunded, left-wing NGO-type group that wants to come and destroy this country, subvert President Trump's strong borders agenda.
Also, they can, what, roll out George Soros and the World Economic Forum's Master Plan for Open Borders.
To that point, we're going to get into how George Soros is actively helping criminal migrants avoid deportation.
But before we get there, I want to walk you through with the American Civil Liberties Union, which you would think from the name, cares about you Americans or your civil liberties, but apparently the only thing they care about is ensuring the rights of criminal legal aliens.
To avoid deportation and stay in this country and kill you and your family, your children and your grandchildren.
They put out a long memo, their new strategy called the Firewall for Freedom.
Apparently, that's a wall that they can get behind.
And I want to read a quote from you.
Now, I don't know about you.
It sounds a little bit like election denialism to me.
The results of the 2024 election are clear.
State governments must step forward to become the front line for freedom and defend their residents against the Trump administration's promised assaults on our right.
No, the 2024 election was actually a clear and historic mandate for President Donald J. Trump in favor of strong and secure borders.
Sorry, ACLU. You lost this one.
Oh, and you lost 2022. But they continue.
Because they say in this memo, which we can flash on screen to show you just how well and how elaborate these schemes are plotted out.
That one of the things that they're now actively lobbying state and local officials to engage in is, quote, opting out of Trump's deportation machine by, quote, minimizing local entanglements with abusive and discriminatory immigration enforcement programs by refusing to contract with ICE officials to provide detention space necessary to Trump's deportation machine and ensuring local police do not provide any support to ICE for its raids and other arrests.
And yes, if you didn't pick up on that Barry lead, that means absolutely no collaboration.
If you're a pedophile, a sex trafficker, a rapist, or a murderer, the American Civil Liberties Union does not want any police force on the ground to collaborate or to work with ICE. That's how radical these people are.
But it gets worse.
Because their only focus is to, quote, protect people vulnerable to deportation by, get this, apparently the preemptive pardons for Anthony Fauci and all those hacks wasn't enough.
Now they want to, quote, issue pardons to immigrants for state criminal convictions that make them deportable, as well as passing legislation to allow people to obtain a driver's license without regard to citizenship.
And just for good measure, they also want to, quote, limit cooperation between local and federal law enforcement, such as joint terrorism task forces.
They don't want to collaborate or cooperate with ICE or police authorities and officials to nab actual terrorists in your neighborhoods and communities in the name of open borders and in the name of opposing President Donald J. Trump.
That's the evil in depravity.
That you're up against.
With the innocuously named American Civil Liberties Union.
And just to make it even better, the ACLU, and this is some breaking news, but the ACLU is suing, of course in concert with a bunch of voting rights groups, try to make that make sense, to block these deportations, in addition to going against President Trump's efforts to basically rescind or reverse the 14th Amendment.
And they're suing on behalf of a group called Make the Road New York.
Now, here's what's so interesting about Make the Road New York.
Like I said, the far-left activist group that is on the front lines of making sure that the ACLU's wet dream of you and your family being killed by illegal aliens can happen in Donald J. Trump's America.
And this group that's now at the legal front lines of ensuring that that nightmarish hell becomes a reality, well, guess how much money they've received in terms of government grants and contributions in their most recent tax filing for, I guess, fiscal year 2023?
$16,124,582 on top of the tens of millions of government grants that they've already received.
So, in other words, the Biden regime...
In addition to all the years preceding, has been pumping full these far left lawfare groups in order to carry out legal assaults against the Trump administration to ensure that our border remains open and that criminal illegal aliens can't be deported.
And while we're at it...
George Soros, one of the radio stations that he recently acquired thanks to Joe Biden, a network called Odyssey, well, they were actually busy doxing ICE agents in the cars that they were operating out of conducting these mass deportation raids.
Just a few days ago, if we can roll this radio, this is again played on a George Soros radio station talking about trying to help criminal illegal aliens avoid deportation.
Let's roll it.
The chances in just a moment.
First, though, I'm Brett Burkhardt, and here's what's happening.
San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan and Councilmember Peter Ortiz confirmed today that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are currently carrying out an operation on the east side of town.
The Santa Clara County Rapid Response Network, which is a community defense projecting system for immigrant communities against deportation threats, it first reported the activity on its platforms.
In a statement at KCBS Radio, Mayor Mahan says the city's police department does not assist with or participate in these operations in any way.
The county's response network says agents in San Jose were in unmarked vehicles, including a black Dodge Durango, a gray Nissan Maxima, and white Nissan truck.
ICE agents were also reported outside a residence on South White and Tully Roads.
And officers were reportedly at the target on King and Story Road.
Stay with KCBS. We'll be tracking it for you.
I think we just listened to a minute of treason because that's exactly what you just witnessed.
Again, that's a George Soros-owned and operated radio station.
You heard down to the make and model of the frickin' car that they were using to deport criminal illegal aliens.
They were doxing on airwaves.
First and foremost, I think President Trump should go and rescind any and all active, let alone, I guess maybe, can you retroactively rip some of those federal grants away from groups who are behind these lawsuits, this advocacy, to make sure that President Trump's immigration agenda cannot be rolled out.
The ACLU is busy filing FOIA after FOIA after FOIA request.
So they can, what, leak to the media like they did, I'm sure, to the Wall Street Journal ahead of these mass deportation raids like the one in Chicago?
So President Trump can be kneecapped?
They can get ahead of him?
It really is sick and depraved.
I mean, truly, I'm really at a loss for words when I broadcast.
But the American Civil Liberties Union, let that sink in, is working overtime.
To ensure that convicted criminals will get pardons from people who you supposedly elected at the state level, because I guess the effort to get Joe Biden to do it on the federal level didn't work for those criminals, only certain criminals, like Anthony Fauci.
They're working overtime to ensure that those people will not be deported.
And by the way, just to round it all out, I don't think we have time to play it, but the ACLU, in true propaganda form, has also launched an actual smear campaign, a propaganda campaign called Letters to America, where they're showing a bunch of, oh, poor me, cry me a river videos of so-called illegal aliens who came to the United States for, what, a better life?
Well, what about the American citizens who want a better life and are sick and tired of being used and exploited and laughed at and mocked and ridiculed like you're seeing going on at the hearings today?
The regime that weaponized against you and put Stephen K. Bannon in jail and Peter Navarro in jail now wants to sit there and gaslight you.
And tell you that if you think Kash Patel being the answer to all of the disgusting degeneracy and weaponization that has gone on at the FBI, that you're actually the crazy one.
Or that someone like Tulsi Gabbard, who's served honorably in the Army Reserves, that I guess she was good enough to die for the United States of America, but now that she wants to tell the IC that they're a bunch of lying hacks who've only ever used their security clearances to screw this country over?
Now apparently she's not good enough.
And that's what they said to the tens of thousands of young American men and women who've died shedding blood for this country, for a globalist regime that truly hates them.
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