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A top Russian general has been assassinated.
This was an audacious assassination in the Russian capital of Moscow this morning.
Ukraine Security Services releasing this video apparently showing the moment that Lieutenant General Igor Krylov, the man in charge, Of Russia's chemical, biological and nuclear protection services was killed by a bomb hidden in a scooter in front of his apartment.
Sources telling ABC News that Ukraine's security services, the SBU, was behind the attack.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing the biggest political crisis of his career.
There's talk that he could even step down within hours or days after his finance minister resigned from cabinet over disagreements about the budget.
A heartbroken community searching for answers after a teacher and student were killed in a shooting at Abundant Life Christian School.
The shooting happened inside a classroom in a study hall of students from mixed grades.
Overnight, police identifying the shooter as 15-year-old Natalie Rupnow, who went by Samantha.
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GOP voted to impeach or convict Trump.
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They're adios amigos, goodbye, see you later for the most part.
Now, just five of them, just five of them reign in Congress.
There are very few folks who dislike Donald Trump on the Republican side who are still in the United States Congress.
Think about the shooter.
Ivy League grew up in an affluent household.
His manifesto clearly is showing some signs of hating.
Our children are being radicalized to hate the America.
To hate the country that put them where they are.
The committee that's been investigating January 6th just released its final report for this year.
It accuses Liz Cheney of tampering with the witness, Cassidy Hutchison, trying to influence her testimony.
It formally recommends that the Federal Bureau of Investigation criminally investigate Liz Cheney when President Trump takes over on January 20th.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here in Washington, D.C. Today is December 17th, 22.04.
Anno Domini.
Liz Cheney!
Oh no no no no no no no and not just Liz Cheney but Alyssa Farrah Oh, yes, that's right.
Alyssa Farah from The View.
Really?
Yes, really.
And who else do we have?
Well, well, well, none other than my favorite all-time low-level conspirator in the Jan-6 operation, Cassidy Hutchinson, or as we lovingly call her here on Human Events Daily, The Hutch!
Oh yes, the Hutch.
Oh, you know, there was always something, you know, I just gotta say, there was always something about the Hutch where I said, you know, it's gonna be her.
She's going to be the weak link and she obviously was the weak link and that's why we here on the program devoted so much time and energy to collecting her text messages and her text messages with Alyssa Farah and then eventually Her text messages with Liz Cheney.
Oh no!
You should have set up auto-delete, Hutch!
What were you thinking?
Don't ever...
By the way, now we know why the J6 committee deleted all their communications because you don't want to have stuff like this floating around out there and then you let a guy like Jack Posobiec on Human Events Daily find it Because you're gonna find yourself in a world of trouble.
And that's exactly where Cassidy Hutchinson, Alyssa Farah, and Liz Cheney find themselves now.
Suburning porjury.
Federal crime.
Conspiracy against rights.
Federal crime.
Witness tampering.
Federal crime.
And here's the issue, okay?
This all comes out in the Loudermilk memo earlier today.
Where essentially they found that Liz Cheney, and we have the text messages there, was having discussions and then using Alyssa Farah as a go-between And having these back-channel discussions, direct discussions, with Cassidy Hutchinson, with the Hutch, before she testified publicly.
So remember, there was a closed-door testimony and a public testimony.
Well, her testimony changed in between those times.
Why did it change?
Well, Liz Cheney and Alyssa Farah had some conversations with her in between there.
And there were material changes to the testimony.
Almost like, I don't know.
Like the vice chair of the January 6th committee was tampering with a witness to encourage her to perjure herself under oath.
And that's exactly what she did in prime time and in 4K. So Liz Cheney, preserve your records.
Stay tuned.
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Look, I've been talking about the need for reciprocity, the need for justice.
The need to balance the scales, the need to say, look, we have to return to a one-tier system of justice.
And if you don't do that, if you don't hold people to the same standard, then you will have an issue of elites and everybody else, elites and subjects, rather than a group of people who are all subject to the same set of law.
That's why reciprocity is so important.
We called it in the book, the iron law of exact Reciprocity.
Someone who understands a lot about reciprocity and politics is Matt Boyle from Reitbart News.
Matt, what's going on, man?
Hey, Jack.
Thanks for having me.
So, I've got to get your take.
The latest here, I mean, Liz Cheney, Alyssa Farah, Cassidy Hutchinson, the Jan 6 Committee.
Look, we knew that when they were deleting those communications that they probably did so for some reason.
President Trump, of course, has said again and again, That they conducted that committee illegally.
And now we have specific, very specific and detailed evidence of wrongdoing by none other than the vice chair of the committee herself, Liz Cheney.
Yeah, well, look, this is a gang that can't shoot straight.
And the fact of the matter is that how often have we heard from all of these different people that, oh, no one's above the law.
No one's above the law.
Everybody needs to be held accountable.
Yeah.
If there was a crime committed here, and I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know if there was or not, and if there was some kind of illegal activity, then it needs to be investigated.
They need to be held accountable, whether it be Cassidy Hutchinson or Alyssa Farah or Liz Cheney.
I don't know.
And hopefully the incoming administration actually takes steps to do this.
No wonder why Joe Biden is apparently reportedly considering pardoning Liz Cheney preemptively ahead of Donald Trump's administration taking over.
One would think that, you know, the FBI may be looking at this when incoming Director Cash Patel is confirmed, and all indications are that he will be confirmed because he is more qualified than any recent previous FBI Director, you know, including Christopher Wray, for the position.
Hopefully he will be confirmed by the U.S. Senate and we'll start taking steps to address this.
But again, the two-tier system of justice is at play here.
Again, these same people, they've had January 6th prisoners locked up in prisons in Washington, D.C. and whatnot for the last several years.
And yet, if they committed wide-scale criminality here, which may or may not be the case, depending on what the lawyers and the prosecutors and whatnot say about this, What courts adjudicate it, etc.
The process needs to play out.
But the fact is that if they're able to get away with wide-scale criminality, Matt, someone that you and I both know, Stephen K. Bannon, did four months in Danbury Federal Prison simply for refusing to participate in this committee's actions.
And as it turns out, That if the committee was conducting itself in an illegal fashion, then that legally speak, I mean, obviously he can't get those four months back, but legally speaking, it does show why Bannon would perhaps not want to get involved with an illegal committee in the first place, because who knows if he would have been the victim of another one of these ensnarement traps or whether people would have leaned on him.
For him to commit perjury or any of these other things, trying to contact him without a lawyer involved, et cetera, et cetera.
And so the fact of the matter is, when Steve Bannon was put behind bars by the Jan Six Committee, okay, by this very same committee that was run by Liz Cheney.
Yeah, I know that she wasn't the overall chair, but come on, it was run by, you know, Benny Thompson.
We know it was really Liz Cheney.
That we were told no one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
Okay, great.
Prove it.
Not only that, but also this committee's actions and subpoenas were of questionable legality from the get-go.
I think history will reflect kindly on Steve and will reflect kindly on Peter Navarro.
Who both stood up to this and both were put in prison for several months.
That's right.
You know, again, the bigger point here is, you know, if you look back and go all the way back to the Obama administration, the then Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, was held in criminal contempt of Congress by a legitimate congressional committee called the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
That's what it was called at the time they've since changed the name of it, but it's the Oversight Committee and the House of Representatives because he was withholding Eric Holder has never faced consequences for his criminality.
So the fact of the matter is that—and that's arguably much worse than whatever Steve or Peter did, in that in Steve and Peter's cases, the committee was of questionable legality, and it's still of questionable legality.
But again, the bigger picture here is that what you have is you have a bunch of elites running around Washington, D.C. that act like they're above the law.
People shouldn't be going and getting bombed at the Bombay Club and acting like they're above everybody else.
The fact here is that the regular people should be held to the same standards as these elitist types.
And the election results on November 5th are proof that the American public I think, you know, mass numbers are rejecting these global elites holding themselves to higher and different standards than everybody else.
And it's time that we get back to holding everybody to the same standard and that the scales of Lady Justice are balanced so that the regular people don't get screwed, you know, in an unfair way.
If somebody violates the law, face the consequences.
It's that simple.
Look, and this was a huge part of the election, as you say, that people were watching this play out before their TV screens and in the little pieces of glass in their pockets, and they were getting sick of it.
They were saying, why is the government, and not just about Steve Bannon, by the way, but of course him going to prison, as well as Peter Navarro going to prison, both played a huge role in this.
It was the lawfare against the man himself, Donald Trump, When, you know, you would have these ridiculous cases that Alvin Bragg was bringing up, Letitia James, you know, Mar-a-Lago.
By the way, a case, Juan Mershon's case, where just earlier today, the judge came down and said that he isn't even going to dismiss the charges, even though it's essentially been held that the case can't continue because he's been elected president.
You have this absolute nonsense that's going on, which was really all predicated by Jack Smith, and then of course the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
The American people looked at all of this and they said, you know what, this stinks to high heaven, we're sick of holding our noses, and we want to move away from it.
And now that it turns out that as we all suspected, that they were cutting corners and they were lying to try to get someone like Cassidy Hutchinson to get up there and change her testimony from what she said in closed doors to what she said on camera because they wanted something that they could lead with on the 6 o'clock news.
Last minute to you, Matt Boyle.
Yeah, well, look, a couple of different things.
The January 6th committee literally hired an ABC News person to be their producer.
So this was not about justice.
It was not about getting to the facts.
It was about producing primetime television to use against Donald Trump.
And again, all the weaponization goes back to Eric Holder.
Everything started with him.
Everything goes back to him.
And Barack Obama's administration, it all traces back to there.
And frankly, the rats fleeing a sinking ship These people are all trying to run away and avoid accountability now.
That's not going to fly.
I hope that incoming Attorney General Pam Bondi and incoming FBI Director Cash Patel get to the bottom of this.
No, no.
There's blood on the black leather gloves.
The Bruno Maglies are size 12. They all match, Liz.
They all match.
Yeah, that's right.
Liz Cheney wears size 12. Don't worry.
It fits.
It all fits.
The glove fits, Liz.
And if the glove fits, we are not going to acquit.
We'll be right back with Matt Boyle, Breitbart News.
Stick it here.
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Thank you.
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Matt Boyle, I was wondering if we could, you know, we've been tracking, obviously, a lot of the nominees.
We've been talking Pete Hegseth a lot here, but there's a few others that people are, you know, questioning.
Cash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK. So I was wondering if we could just sort of do a round robin on some of that, on some of those and sort of go down the list.
Yeah, so the big picture here is that the deep state already got one of Trump's nominees.
That was Matt Gaetz, a former congressman.
He nominated to be the Attorney General of the United States.
Within a week, he had to withdraw.
Now he put forward Pam Bondi.
So just as qualified, by the way, I think Pam's going to be fantastic as the Attorney General.
But the point is, Is that the deep state, the establishment media, the permanent political class in Washington, D.C., those same globalists that we're talking about there on the last segment, they want scalps, right?
Because they realized they were defenestrated in the election by the American public.
The American public said, hey, New York Times, Washington Post, Atlantic, et cetera, New Yorker magazine, none of you have any real power.
We don't really give a crap what you think about anything, right?
And the American public sent a massive middle finger to the establishment media and to the deep state and, frankly, the administrative state in Washington, D.C., and to the permanent political class of both parties' establishments.
So what they're trying to do right now is sink their teeth into any one of these nominees that they can get their hands on to try to claw back some of that power.
So that's why you've seen the smear campaign And these smear merchants using anonymous sources, et cetera, to go after Pete Hegseth.
He seems to have really turned it around, right?
Like after he aggressively went on offense over the last few weeks and has met with senators.
And I think Hegseth You know, he's not 100% there yet, but he's pretty darn close, right?
And things are looking strong for him.
I say with Pete, Matt, real quick.
With Pete, it's like he's made it through the storm.
The fog is lifted.
He's looking at the runway.
He's kind of about to just start come cruising down there.
I think he's on a really good path.
I think he's on a great path.
The landing gear is out, right?
Like, you know, he's a few thousand feet out, right?
He's about to land the plane.
So Pete Hexeth is looking strong.
So as that's happened, what you've seen now is the establishment really turned their heat to other nominees.
So they've turned their heat on Tulsi Gabbard and on RFK, and they're going to try to sink one of them.
I don't think they're going to get them.
I think right now they're both looking very strong.
As they're going and meeting with senators, you saw The attacks are intensifying and they're going to keep doing that through the holidays.
But if these people get to their confirmation hearings, especially the national security focused ones like Kash Patel for FBI, because Chris Wray is going to resign, he said so, in the lead up to the inauguration.
So you're going to have a vacancy at the FBI director position.
So like Kash Patel, like Pete Hexeth for the Pentagon, like Tulsi Gabbard, In particular for Director of National Intelligence, it's hard to see the Senate if people are qualified, and each of these are eminently qualified individuals.
If you look at their resumes and their histories and their work on the various issues that we're talking about, it's hard to see the Senate, especially a Republican-controlled Senate, or at least supposedly so, rejecting President Trump's picks to lead his national security team.
These are picks that normally get confirmed By the U.S. Senate within hours of the inauguration, right?
Like that night or the next morning.
Because, you know, while everybody in Washington, D.C. is headed off to inaugural balls and stuff after the inauguration at noon on the 20th, the U.S. Senate goes right into work and they go start having confirmation votes, right, to confirm a secretary of defense, an attorney general.
You know, so the president has his court team around them.
To confirm a Director of National Intelligence, because guess what?
This is a transition from one government to the next.
You need to have your core guys in place and gals, in the case of Tulsi Gabbard, because you need to be able to respond in case there's an issue that happens in that immediate time.
That's why in third world countries you see changes, transitions from one government to another where people would target those countries.
You know, the United States needs to be ready, and we need to be able to have these picks in place.
So again, assuming they all make it to their confirmation hearings, which one would think they will, you know, as their meetings with senators are going well, the establishment media is going to keep trying, but I don't think they're going to get any of them.
But the reason why they're trying is they were completely rejected by the American public on Election Day.
Well, and someone, you know, I haven't brought it up too much because it's like it's going a little bit, you know, it's going really well right now because people aren't pushing it.
Look, there were so many people that were trying to run operations and to dislodge the Kash Patel nomination and dislodge that process and try to knock him out with these anonymous sources and Someone's planting a thing here.
Someone's playing.
Oh, you know, there was this op in Nigeria and it was all his fault and this and that.
And then but then people would come out and say, no, that's not what happened at all.
And cash was great, as a matter of fact.
And, you know, people want to blame him for stuff that wasn't his fault.
And, you know, it really looks as though cash has been doing just a just an absolute banger job going through having these meetings And he's knocking them down one by one by one.
I would say the exact same thing about Tulsi Gabbard, by the way.
You know, we keep hearing, oh, there's people who say she has issues.
Oh, there's people who say she is...
Who are these people?
Who are they?
Why won't they come out?
And one of them...
And I'm just going to say it, Matt.
One of the names that I keep hearing is Senator Mike Rounds.
I call him Senator Short Round.
And, you know, Senator Short Round from South Dakota, they're...
You know, I've been hearing some chatter, a little bit of D.C. chatter.
That Senator Mike Rounds has some issues with Tulsi Gabbard.
I'd love for him to come forward and tell his constituents that he is not going to be voting for the pick of Donald J. Trump.
And I just want him to do that.
And I think that all of the senators should come out and say these things publicly.
What would you say, Matt?
Yeah, well, look, I think this is why President Trump is in a game of chicken with the Republican establishment in Washington.
He's going to show that he's in charge.
This is his party.
This is his movement.
They're only there and they only have a majority thanks to him.
So he needs to stick with these nominees and force them to vote on them.
There will be no withdrawals.
That's over.
That time is done.
These are the nominees.
This is the choice.
So if you're going to vote against him, vote against him.
I dare you and see what happens.
By the way, I just got this in.
So we were talking about Senator Short Round yesterday, Senator Mike Rounds.
I'll go back to calling him Senator Mike Rounds because we were doing this whole segment.
Just got a message from my producer, Producer Boneless, that Senator Mike Rounds, as of about 1 p.m.
today, came out and said that he will vote to confirm all of President Trump's cabinet nominees.
The president should get the benefit of the doubt on any of his nominees.
Senator, I couldn't agree more.
Yeah, and you're seeing that from other establishment-type Republican senators.
And again, that's the reason why President Trump should stick with these nominees and force the Senate to confirm them.
Again, if there are actual issues with any of them that are serious, then you cross that bridge when you come there.
But the fact is that anonymous sources and thinly veiled attacks from the establishment media It ain't gonna do the trick.
In fact, there was more evidence against Justice Brett Kavanaugh before his confirmation to the US Supreme Court than there is against all of Donald Trump's nominees combined, and all of that was flimsy and nonsense.
And the Kavanaugh situation.
In this case, it's even flimsier, even more nonsensical.
So the fact is, is that this is a game of chicken between the deep state and Donald Trump and the Senate stands in between.
So the question is, is which side of the Senate are Republicans on?
Are they on the side of Republican voters and President Trump?
Or are they on the side of the deep state and the Democrats?
By the way, since you brought it up there, I do have to throw out that game respects game.
People say Poso's got the receipts, but did I ever think that Brett Kavanaugh would have the receipts of his own high school calendar with the activities on it handwritten from, what was it, 1986?
From like 30 years before that would come up and to be able to debunk the anonymous, well, at first it was anonymous, then later became Blasey Ford's allegations against him, was to say, man, you know, that guy with a receipts game like that, who's got a receipts game like that?
A Supreme Court justice, that's who.
Fantastic, fantastic move, and I will never ever get over the fact that he still had the calendar.
Pete Hegseth still has his letter from West Point.
Pete Hegseth with the letter from West Point.
Yes!
Yes!
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Because they were going to lie.
We only got a minute left to the break.
But they were going to lie about Pete Hegseth, that ProPublica had the story, was all set.
They had the statement.
They had everything they needed.
And then all of a sudden, here comes Pete Hegseth that says, wait a minute, I got a letter from the commandant.
Of West Point.
Here it is.
And if he hadn't saved that letter, that, keep in mind, these are U.S. government officials would have been on the record lying about him, and they conspired to lie about him, but because he kept the receipts, he knew what he was in for.
And by the way, that sounds like the type of guy who ought to, I don't know, maybe be running the military.
Matt Boyle, where can people follow you, brother? - Just go to X Twitter @nboyle1 and @realmattboyle on true social and go to breitbart.com to follow our great team's reporting. - Now am I gonna see you at AmFest this weekend or what?
I'm not going to be there, but we're going to have some people.
Ah!
Come on, man.
You're killing me.
You were at the other one, but I didn't get to sit down with you.
So you owe me, Boyle.
You owe me.
Stay tuned.
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Jack Percevic back live here, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. By the way, that bump shot of D.C., I wish D.C. looked nice and sunny right now.
It's a little warm today, but it's been rainy and awful, so I just have to laugh sometimes.
But, folks, there's been a lot going on in our country, and it feels like the era of peak woke has been passed.
And it feels in a lot of ways, and by the way, this doesn't mean it's gone, but it means that there are a number of things that hopefully as a country that the fever has broken and we can go back to actually start engaging with in a serious manner.
And the acquittal of Daniel Penny just a couple of days ago in New York City, I think was a real game changer in terms of all this.
It shows a tectonic shift has taken place in the United States.
Well, There was another case that involved some similar elements to that from at least the political and criminal justice perspective all the way back that started the BLM era and the era of Pequok and that is the case of George Floyd and his accused murderer Derek Chauvin, someone who is also actually convicted of said murder.
Derek Chauvin has always protested his innocence.
He has always protested the charges.
And in fact, his appeal was just taken up by a judge in Minnesota.
And the reporter who just really broke this story, put together the documentary, and led the charge on so much of this is Liz Collin.
And she joins us now to tell us the story of all the updates And just how this took place.
Liz, congratulations on your work in a serious world.
They'd be naming awards after you at this point.
Well, thanks Jack.
Good to see you again.
But it does, it seems like we live in a different day.
This is certainly the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
And we've been reporting all of it over here at Alpha News.
But this is a federal judge who has finally come back approving this motion that has been in the works for months to examine heart tissue in George Floyd and also some fluids.
From George Floyd's body as well.
Basically, this is related to what's called a paraganglioma.
This was discussed in the fall of Minneapolis.
Some doctors came forward during Derek Chauvin's case to say, why wasn't this tumor tested in George Floyd?
In many cases, it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
They brought this information forward.
His attorney at the time did not act upon this information, according to court documents, and also the judge.
Judge Peter Cahill ignored it as well.
So in this motion, the judge has now said that this testing can take place.
Does this tumor have anything to do with his death?
A lot of people are also picking up on the fact that That George Floyd was not pronounced dead until about 9.30 that night.
That's about an hour after this incident took place, something that we brought out in the documentary as well.
So it's interesting that I think people are willing to have these conversations now to look at this evidence, which is really in black and white and has been Since day one, which we compiled for the book, They're Lying, and for the documentary, The Fall of Minneapolis.
So this really is the very first legal win for Derek Chauvin.
We've also done some reporting about a state appeal as well that is similar, the fact that these medical records were ignored.
Liz, you know, and obviously certainly a pardon from Governor Tim Walz is probably nowhere near on the table for Derek Chauvin.
That being said, the federal charges are something that President Trump could potentially pardon.
So I just want to throw that out there as other potential avenues for action on these issues.
But when we're talking about this appeal, I learned something about the story of the appeal as I was doing some research for this.
And is it true that the appeal was actually handwritten by Chauvin himself at one point?
Yeah, this is really remarkable to even go back to everything that Derek Chauvin has been through in prison.
I mean, something we've continued to follow.
It's just eight days after the documentary was released that he's stabbed 22 times in prison.
He loses access Jack, to all his materials through that, they're basically covered and coated with blood.
He's attacked in the law library as he's making copies the day after Thanksgiving last year when this attack happens.
So he loses access to his case.
And loses access to his computer basically through all of this as well.
So he writes a handwritten note because the clock is ticking on this entire appeal situation.
Writes a handwritten note that I'm going to file this appeal.
I'm working on it.
Some details from the fall of Minneapolis will be included along with this medical evidence.
You know, here's that letter.
And that's what was submitted to the judge.
And then his public defender went in and filled out more of that appeal.
And this is now what that judge has ruled on.
But you're right about this.
And that's something we also continue to follow what's happened to him since.
He's been transferred now three different times.
This former FBI informant who tried to kill him It's now supposed to go on trial in February, but this will be the fourth time that trial has been postponed.
Well, Liz, I just have to say, I mean, there's something about the story that you just told that gives us all pause and should give us all pause, that this is someone, Derek Chauvin, who was so persecuted in the The court of public opinion,
prior to any official proceeding, state or federal, the federal charges, I think he just, he pled out because I don't think he was, he thought that there was any possibility of the truth coming up in that trial, and there probably wasn't at the time, that he was, and then assaulted in prison, attempted to be killed in prison, I should even say, And he was so isolated that he had to write an appeal himself without even the use of a printer.
He hand wrote a letter to the judge asking him to please take a look at the fact, essentially, that as you say, George Floyd had a heart tumor Which wasn't even brought up at trial by his initial attorney, Eric Nelson.
And the fact that so many other things that were seemingly just brushed away at trial, for example, the fact that George Floyd's I believe they call it antemortem blood was taken at the hospital.
Antemortem.
So before death, meaning that Floyd was alive when he arrived at the hospital.
And all of these things clearly warrant, just on a basic case of justice and the truth, that there should be some kind of re-examination of what went on here.
Yeah, let's not forget this very problematic response by the ambulance that day that was not allowed in Derek Chauvin's trial either.
Normally, it would be a minute or two before paramedics arrive.
Well, that was nearly 10 minutes after going to the wrong location.
That's joked about basically in their body camera footage.
The paramedics are open that they got there so late, and they can't even actually admit that in Derek Chauvin's So it really is just sort of all of these things that are compounded and how the script really was written from the beginning.
Going into his trial.
And Alex King speaks to this in the fall of Minneapolis.
Remember, he's the officer on the streets for three days and is still serving time in prison for this.
He will be out soon, but he speaks to this.
Is this what you want your justice system to look like?
Do you want it to be run by mob mentality?
And that's what we have to decide as a country moving forward.
No, I think it's fascinating.
And in the next segment, I do want to ask you some more about the specifics of this appeal and the tumor and some of these other pieces.
But I remember sitting there and actually watched the trial almost every day with my wife, Tanya Tay.
And for folks who don't know, she was born in Eastern Europe.
And so she's an immigrant to the United States.
And she said, it's amazing that you have this system.
And I said, what do you mean?
What do you mean it's amazing you have this system?
She said, well, you have a system where there's a lawyer who can actually get up and advocate for your side, because in some parts of the world, that doesn't exist at all.
And I said to her when the verdict was read out, I said, well, unfortunately, it looks like our system Jack Posobiec here, Human Events Daily.
Liz Collin, incredible and just earth-shattering news for Derek Chauvin in his appeal taken up by a federal judge.
We'll be right back, Human Events Daily, with all the latest. - Jack is a great guy.
He's written that fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back here with Liz Collin, who's just been doing fantastic work on the Derek Chauvin case, breaking scoop after scoop, and has interviewed Derek a number of times.
By the way, Liz, so have you had a chance to speak with him after this news has come out of this ruling?
Yeah, not since this ruling was just announced yesterday.
It was filed yesterday morning.
So not since then.
I have been in touch with his mother.
Obviously, you know, just any sort of light at the end of the tunnel.
At this point, you know, he is set to be released from prison 14 years from now.
That's the date that they're working with.
And they've had, you know, setback after setback as well, finding a new attorney and a lot of different legal maneuvers happening behind the scenes.
No, no, of course.
And so walk us through a little bit and give us some more understanding of what the nature of this appeal is.
And I think to most people hearing that George Floyd had a tumor, even those of us who were watching the trial, really does come as big news, a heart tumor.
Yeah, and also, it really was reported very early on.
Cardiopulmonary arrest is what appeared first on George Floyd's death certificate.
That was done within 12 hours of his death.
His autopsy was publicly available.
However, I shouldn't say publicly available.
It was available, and you have these meetings happening behind the scenes with prosecutors and Dr. Baker, the Hennepin County medical examiner, and this is when the word homicide is added.
To the autopsy and complicated by law enforcement subdual is added to the autopsy as well.
So that did not appear in within those initial 12 hours and that initial autopsy.
So basically, these doctors came forward in 2021. I can't let you I can't let you skip over your because you had the scoop on this.
Were there any meetings that federal officials may have held during that time period?
Yes, you have the FBI present, you have prosecutors present with the actual medical examiner.
And I detail this quite a bit in the book, They're Lying, the Media, the Left, and the Death of George Floyd, but just how this never has happened before.
This is not something where we bring a bunch of people in and get their outside opinion.
Dr. Baker, in fact, admits to the pressure he was under in In conducting George Floyd's autopsy.
He talks about that himself in court filings.
So that's all a part of the public record here as well.
But this information about the paraganglioma is presented to Eric Nelson, Derek Chauvin's attorney, also presented to Judge Peter Cahill.
Once these doctors are getting word and seeing this public documentation for themselves about this paraganglioma, they're asking You know, has this been tested?
The answer is no.
Well, it should be tested because in many cases it can lead to sudden cardiac death.
But instead of actually, you know, following through with that testing at the time, Derek is not even told about this tumor, doesn't understand its significance, is not privy to the information from these doctors.
So this is why he's always sort of held on to this as information that he thought should have been checked out further.
In his case.
So this federal judge has now said, let's go ahead with that testing and see what the results yield here.
So I guess then the line of thinking would be, if the tumor was in fact, did play a role in the cardiopulmonary arrest, which I mean, reasonably you would probably think that it would, then the fact that this information, this evidence, which of course would be exculpatory to Chauvin, the fact that it was not included Anywhere and that his defense team was not given, Nelson, who by the way, really did a stand-up job at the trial.
I mean, he was under a lot of pressure himself and did a very stand-up job.
I watched every minute of it.
The fact that this information was not included or provided to the defense team would create a huge issue for the conviction, would it not?
Well, this is where it's going to get a little complicated because you have a federal appeal.
Also, a state appeal is in the works as well, which is similar pointing to this tumor.
But there's already a lot of information here, Jack, that points to that George Floyd died of a heart attack.
And that's from the very first autopsy.
Again, there's no strangulation marks.
There's no bruising.
George Floyd did not die of asphyxiation.
Three times the lethal limit of Fentanyl in his system, methamphetamine, he has COVID, he has enlarged organs, he has blockage in his heart.
These are all things that are already there on his autopsy report.
It's just in the end, it sounds like jurors decided to go ahead and listen to the expert Witness for the prosecution and not really focus so much on the original autopsy.
Dr. Baker obviously took the stand in Derek Chauvin's trial as well.
So it's hard to predict what will come of this, but this does seem to show that people are at least willing to look at this now, perhaps in a different light.
No, I think it does.
And the timing of it, given all of the recent changes we've seen in our country, given the acquittal of Daniel Penny, it just kind of speaks to a certain zeitgeist or something in the air that the worm has turned on So many of these social justice and criminal justice issues that as you say basic evidence questions about the fact that the medical team wasn't able to arrive in time something that Chauvin himself would have had no control over or by the way the fact that they were not
able to perform to perform basic life-saving functions on Floyd immediately because of the presence of the large crowd that had been held around which is again something that That Chauvin would have had no control over.
All of these various things played major factors in the untimely death of Mr. Floyd.
But again, none of those were things that were within Derek Chauvin's control or his purview.
The only thing that was, was the training he had received from the Minneapolis Police Department and him following through the tactics that he had been trained on.
Liz Collin Where can people go to get more information about this?
Because I think there's just a huge appetite for it right now.
ApolloMinneapolis.com.
If you click on the news section there, we put all our updates, but also AlphaNews.org.
Follow me on X. Also, Liz Collin and AlphaNewsMN on X, too.
But good to see you, Jack.
Thank you again for bringing light to this case, and hope to see you again here soon.
No, no, we'll certainly be back.
Liz Collin, one day they will be naming awards after her.
