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PENNY & MANGIONE ARE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LAW AND ORDER BREAK DOWN AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM STOPS WORKING
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The good guys today, Daniel Penny.
The bad guys, Luigi Mangione.
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Manhattan prosecutors filing a murder charge against Luigi Mangione for last week's shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
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So everybody's talking about Daniel Penny and Luigi Mangione.
Daniel Penny and Luigi Mangione.
For Daniel Penny's case, people are saying, is this the system's fault?
Why was he let off?
Others are saying, Like myself, that he's a hero and he did what he had to do to save lives.
Whereas with Luigi Angiones, other people are saying, oh, his supporters say, oh, he's a hero.
He did it.
These people are parasites.
We agree.
You saw Taylor Renz there saying she felt joy that a CEO, business leader was murdered in the street, a man with a wife and children.
Whereas others, like myself, say this is the unraveling of law and order.
But let me step back.
Let me step back for a second.
These are both symptoms of a wider problem in America.
And the wider problem in America is this.
We have a broken system of justice.
We have a law and order system in this country that's absolutely in shambles.
And because our law and order system, and it has been this way and it's been getting worse for years.
And because of that, you have people, Daniel Penny, who are forced into situations like this because Jordan Neely never should have been on that train to begin with.
Just like how in the Kyle Rittenhouse situation, the marauders and the rioters never should have been in Kenosha.
Now, what's the situation with Luigi Mangione?
Well, in that case, again, here you've got a case where without law and order, without a functioning justice system, people start to get ideas.
People start to think, maybe I can be a hero too.
Maybe I can be the one who listens to everything that my professors told me and everything that Hollywood tells me about how we should eat the rich and how we should take out these business leaders and maybe I can go on social media and I can be a big star and he certainly has gone viral and he's gained more followers before they banned his accounts because he took law and order into his own hands and his own twisted, psychedelic, warped mind and thought that he could be a hero.
Well, an America with a functioning justice system would not have this problem.
And hopefully, as we move into the Trump administration, hopefully as we move into a country that has a serious Justice Department, serious FBI leader, and so many others, that things like this will stop simply happening again and again in the United States.
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Something interesting that's been going on, and probably in a good sense, is, you know, I noticed the media hasn't really been focused on this quite as much lately, but while there's so much going on in the breaking news category, the law and order section, actually, what's what we've seen in Washington, D.C., that Trump's Nominees are actually doing great.
Pete Hegseth is having a fire week up there.
He's going back and back to back and meeting with senators.
Now Tulsi Gabbard is meeting with senators.
Kash Patel is meeting with senators.
Darren Beattie joins us now to discuss this latest and the latest updates in President Trump's nomination confirmation Darren, do you agree with my assessment?
Does it look like Pete and Tulsi and Cash are actually starting to get a warmer reception than they were at first?
I think absolutely.
If you read the tea leaves, if you look at the broader situation, if you look at how their meetings with senators have been publicly represented, Everything is positive.
So I think they'll all probably get through.
I would be pretty confident at this point they'd all get through.
I don't think the Senate is interested in making a huge fuss over it.
So really, I'm more optimistic about these three appointments than I've ever been before.
Well, I think it's fantastic.
I mean, Pete Hexeth, talk about a transformative leader at the Department of Defense.
I mean, I think everybody knows what needs to be done to clear out the wokeness there, to make it effective fighting organization yet again.
But one that had flown under the radar for some time, but is now starting to get more scrutiny.
Is Tulsi Gabbard.
And this is someone who, let's face it, she is not a, okay, I guess she is a Republican, but her background, her roots, her resume are all Democrat.
This is someone who was the former vice chair of the entire Democrat party, now being appointed to the Trump administration, and someone who also, by the way, the intelligence community has spread just ludicrous lies about, smears about, they call her an Assad supporter, When all she said, if I remember correctly, and has now been vindicated, that if Assad goes, that jihadis will take over.
And oh, look, that's exactly what happened.
So what are some of the things, Darren, you see that Tulsi could potentially be able to do over there at DNI? Well, I suppose in this case, it was more that the jihadis ousted Assad.
So that was definitely true.
She was one of the early sort of heterodox, but perhaps more accurate than not voices when it came to Syria and a lot of other critical issues, which is, of course, you know, whenever there's a pretextual scandal about somebody, The reality is always, how much are they going to actually challenge the system?
That's the determinative factor.
And based on Tulsi's knowledge about certain things, including perhaps especially foreign policy and her willingness to speak out on these things, that's really why the intelligence community, the same community that told us Hunter Biden laptop was Russian, the same community that launched Russiagate, the same community that's been Really conspiring against the American people from day one to subvert the democratic process and Trump in particular.
This group is maybe not entirely enthusiastic about Tulsi, which I think should be her proudest qualification for this office.
And the DNI office actually is an interesting one.
In that, unlike the CIA, it doesn't control an enormous budget, it doesn't control personnel, but in a formal sense, it does sit on top of the intelligence hierarchy.
And it could be used most effectively in the context of declassification, for instance, which could be a huge asset or at least tool of leverage Wielded by the Trump administration to make sure that the intelligence community is on board and on agenda.
So I think wielded effectively, which I fully suspect Tulsi will do, this can be an absolutely critical position for which she is almost uniquely qualified.
Well, I think this is exactly right, and it's a case where, at the same time, she's met with a number of senators that I think people would put more in, I guess, your GOP hawk territory, people who are more interested in America's war footing, Who have celebrated the ouster of Assad, who have celebrated the takeover of Syria with this HTS jihadist group that nobody really knows anything about.
And, you know, I'm sure even Erdogan and the CIA who funded them have no real idea of what's going to happen when they take over the country.
Kind of like, oh, I don't know, when the Taliban took over Afghanistan.
You know, just a couple of years ago, just another wonderful story in the regime change, regime changeopoly of the Middle East.
But when it really comes down to it, you're looking at people.
So here's here's what people don't understand exactly about the Doge and the way the Doge process is working.
And so I don't know if I'm breaking news here.
I don't know if it's going to work or not, but the way the DOGE process, I've been told, is going to work is yes, there will be the overall setup with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and a few others that are, and potentially I think a liaison who sits in the White House on a daily basis, but also that each Of the department heads, each of the agency heads and the cabinet members will have their own DOGE office within their departments.
So that means there's going to be a DNI DOGE, there's going to be a Pentagon DOGE, there's going to be a A doge office in basically all of these various agencies.
And so that's something where if you combine what Elon Musk and Vivek have said, and predominantly what they've been talking about is bureaucracy.
But when you add that quotient to the intelligence communities and the fact that, oh, we have 18 intelligence agencies, they're so important, we need all 18 of them.
And suddenly you start thinking, do we really need all 18?
It just fills me with absolute glee, Darren.
It really does.
Indeed.
Well, I have a recommendation for the DNI Doge and for Tulsi Gabbard.
It's something to think about very seriously.
Now, as the audience may or may not know, the censorship industry domestically is in retreat, and one of the latest examples of this Is the expected discontinuation of the Global Engagement Center, which was sort of the nerve center of censorship operations under the guise of fighting disinformation at the State Department.
That's on the chopping block.
It's probably going to expire.
Now, what few people do know is that there was a similar equivalent agency in terms of hierarchy recently set up under the auspices of the DNI, so that would be in Tulsi's purview, called the Foreign Malign Influence Center.
And to give you a sense of who runs this now, her name is Jessica Brant.
We have a big piece coming out on her.
And basically, Brookings Institution alum, every single report that she's done basically has been some permutation of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, and Dan Bongino are amplifying Russian disinformation narratives.
Pretty much 95% of her reporting has been some version of that topic, singling out those three.
Obviously very influential.
Pro-Trump voices.
The funny thing about her career, and I think it really does recapitulate what a joke this censorship industry is at large, is you go and you look at her history, everything she's doing, and by the way, this is a funny thing.
She doesn't brand herself as a disinformation expert, because that term, I think, is already out of favor.
She brands herself, like certain people that we know of, as an AI expert.
Which is hilarious because all of her pieces are about attacking Tucker, Bongino, Charlie Kirk over amplifying Russian disinformation, which is amazing.
But when you go back into her career, all of this stops around 2019. Before which every single thing she did was to criticize President Trump for the travel ban.
So she's an obsessive in terms of travel ban, obsessive in terms of massive migration, who overnight seemingly becomes an AI expert, which means in effect censoring people like Tucker Carlson Under the guise of Russian disinformation, that's the kind of person who runs the censorship office within the DNI, which Tulsi Gabbard is about to take over.
So something for Doge to consider.
Well, I mean, this is fantastic.
Now, so I've talked to Mike Benz about some of this as well, and so I want people to get in with their ideas.
Does it make sense, 1776 at humanevents.com, does it make sense to shut these things down, or in some cases, like CISA, should we go in and take them over?
We want to talk about this.
We'll talk about this immediately after the break.
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So Darren, I got to tell you, so right there in the break, I just pulled up Jessica Brandt.
I went to her.
The latest article that she had written on securing democracy, a strategy for U.S. diplomacy in the age of disinformation, which was like her basic thing.
The very next one, How Kremlin narratives about Ukraine spread on U.S. political podcast.
And I looked up the names Jack Posobiec and Darren Beattie.
And guess what?
We're all over this thing.
And the very first two things she talks about, and specifically cites Human Events Daily, were, number one, the bio labs in Ukraine.
And she pointed out, by the way, That I played the clip of Victoria Nuland talking about the biochemical research facilities that Ukraine has.
That's Victoria Nuland admitting it, by the way.
And the second one was, of course, the explosion of Nord Stream 2. Which is just, so it's a Kremlin narrative.
It's a Kremlin narrative that Nord Stream 2 would, that anyone would have pushed this out.
It's amazing.
This is amazing.
So there's going to be a very comprehensive report coming on Revolver.News about all of her reporting.
So just a little teaser there.
But absolutely, yes.
One of her reports was about Nord Stream 2. And here's the amazing thing.
Just when you get into the details, it's almost kind of We've seen this movie before.
It's the same shtick, but it's so dumb that sometimes it's worth repeating.
Because he actually said, the only other time I heard this was in a different context that I'm sure you're aware of.
I won't say what it is, but you're aware of someone actually saying that Russia blew up Nord Stream 2. And Jessica Brandt's position was, Anything that did not affirm that hypothesis was ipso facto Russian disinformation.
So anyone who didn't maintain the exceedingly implausible to the point of absurd notion that Russia blew up its own critical piece of infrastructure Yeah,
even the official narrative...
Even the official narrative has gotten back to the point that, okay, they'll say Ukraine or some Ukrainian operatives or some unit operating out of Poland.
By the way, I just have to read this quote because it's so perfect.
I guess this is me in 2023. I guess just right after it happened.
And...
Relatedly, several podcasters said that official denials made them more likely to believe the alternative theories.
Never believe anything until it's been officially denied, argued Posobiec on Human Events Daily.
Based.
Absolutely based.
I completely agree with that guy, and I think everyone should listen to that podcast every day.
Absolutely.
A couple other things about her, because again, we've seen versions of her.
She's created in the same lab as the Brandy Zdrasny type.
She's probably not as mean and cold as Zdrasny, but just as ridiculous.
But the thing that I thought was so amazing about her career, other than branding herself as an AI expert, maybe she should go to MIT and stand in front of a blackboard if she's going to call herself an AI expert.
That's what she brands herself as.
But if you date back her work...
Literally, 95% of it is this dumb, low-IQ censorship Russia stuff.
And then, come 2019, 2018, literally everything is about how Trump's evil because of this travel ban.
So it just goes to show you what a fake industry this actually is.
Which brings up the very important question you raised before the break, which is...
There are all of these institutions, the Global Engagement Center, the Foreign Line Influence Center, there's a lot of them spread throughout the bureaucracies, plus the NGOs and all this.
So what do we do with it?
Do we want to simply eliminate it as we're eliminating the GEC? Or would it be a better approach to commandeer, to repurpose, to reimagine, to reshape this infrastructure to our own will and toward a free speech agenda?
I happen to think that that is the correct approach.
I somewhat lament the expiration of the GEC because while it is much better than what it has been in its previous pernicious form, imagine if the GEC... We're commandeered by somebody who thinks along our lines, who repurposes it for a free speech orientation.
That could be very powerful, and I think it's something to take very seriously when viewing this kind of Censorship architecture generally that this can and probably should be repurposed if somebody with the appropriate energy and insight and knowledge and capability could be put at the helm of these respective institutions.
Well, I think that's exactly right, because you've got a situation now where you can actually take that and spin it back on itself.
Plus, by the way, and this is where Benz came in, because of the nature of these organizations, like CISA, they operate in this public-private space.
So the first thing you've got to do, of course, is pull the funding from the public to the private, so get rid of any of that.
And we called it, we were talking about Severing the umbilical cord between the federal government and academia.
By the way, something I support completely across the board.
But also, we need to find out just how closely were these organizations operating We need to also look at the receipts of, okay, so they were listening to our podcast and they made some quotes and some reports.
Fine, not that big of a deal.
But then the question is, did the federal government then go and take that report and send it to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or any other, Google, YouTube and others and say, hey these are Kremlin narratives and we need to be de-ranking them.
Here's a private report that was written And you can see where this all goes forward.
This is how the censorship industry actually works.
So we need to find out where the tentacles lead before we can actually get this done.
Now, that by the same token though, Darren, I guess if, as you say, if true information were able to actually be supported by this type of organization, wouldn't it make sense then to say, I don't know, reward people who are actually speaking the truth?
I would go even further and I would say that just in the same way as these organizations, keep in mind that GECC was primarily, it really by its foundational purpose, given its position State Department, supposed to be focused toward outward communications, not domestic.
And they're incubating civil society organizations across Europe and overseas to fulfill various foreign policy objectives.
So I think there could be a repurposing opportunity for these types of groups To actually incubate a civil society architecture that is pro-free speech.
Because, you know, for instance, some organization like GEC, there are some legitimate functions too.
We do need to have some position of messaging in relation to overseas, the overseas domain.
But what we don't have to do is, the groups that we're funding for legitimate national security of foreign policy functions We can make sure that their ancillary activity or their other activity is very much in line with America First and American values rather than subverting the First Amendment as was the case before.
So there's a real opportunity to Incubate an entire civil society architecture that is not in promotion of this disinformation censorship scam, but quite the contrary, is in promotion of free speech objectives.
And so I think that's one of the several opportunities that could be seized upon if, again, the appropriate This person who's energetic, has the right vision, has the right knowledge, were to take over these institutions.
So I think that's the most preferable outcome.
Second most is just get rid of them.
The worst outcome is what we've had under Biden, which is these were very much hostile and actuated against the constitutional liberties of the American people.
Well, it certainly should.
We should be punishing those that go against those liberties and rewarding those who support them.
Darren, where can people go to get this post, to find out, tell us when it drops, and then also to follow you and if there's anything else Revolver has cooking up as we go into the new year?
Revolver.News, we've got a big piece on Brandt and a big piece that's a cautionary tale on the Kids Online Safety Act, which I think could be a censorship Trojan horse.
So something to look at very cautiously, very carefully.
So Revolver.News, we're on the cutting edge of all of this.
Revolver.News.
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So, massive victory from President Trump one month ago.
And so many people are focused on the transition, I know we certainly are here, that it's almost like we haven't stepped back and really started analyzing Not just the overall arc of how President Trump won, but the specific groups that were key to this victory.
Groups, by the way, that hadn't voted in some cases for a Republican in years or other cases ever.
And Ryan Gerdusky has written this incredible piece over at the American Conservative.
It's a long piece, but it's well worth your time because it does go through the full story of the election, really from about 2022, early 2023 to the election itself, and walks through the ups and downs, but specifically gets into that coalition of We're good to
go.
We do.
I mean, for the very first time in two decades, Republicans actually have a governing majority.
It's something that we're not used to playing for, you know, a minority of the national votes.
Republicans had it in the House and they had it in the presidential election and they would have had in the Senate if the states were a little different or if there was a national one where every state was competitive in.
But that being said, I looked back when writing this piece for the American Conservative Magazine, and thank you for reading it and talking about it.
I looked back at the last two years, because in the afterglow of such a big election victory, it's almost unfounding how much of a comeback this election was two years ago, 20 months ago.
Actually, 24 months ago now, Trump was in the worst place he was in since 2016. I mean, things were not really going fantastic for him.
And he had a Nixonian-style comeback, one that you don't see in real life ever.
And Nixon is the only person within anyone's living memory that we've seen such a comeback.
And not only to defeat his Republican primary opponents, but then to defeat two Democrats, which is really what he did.
I looked back and saw, one by one, how he reassembled both his party base, which was very fragile back in 2023, and then a national majority to give him the presidency, win every swing state, and put some blue states within an inch of flipping and had Joe Biden still been the nominee.
I believe they all would have flipped.
And this really is the big piece of it, because one of the flips that I saw, and I've been talking about it for a while, but I haven't really dug into it as much was and it's, you know, it's kind of our generation, man.
It's the it's the millennials.
And so you have so many millennials that are now entering a different phase of their life.
And it's sort of the Churchillian kind of, you know, quotation about you get more conservative as you get older.
That people have really stepped away from the Barack Obama moment.
It's so hard.
It's so hard to explain to you if you don't remember 2008 and how much of a movement Barack Obama was.
And I would hear millennials talk about him like he was the second coming of Jesus.
And this whole thing was media instituted and something incredible has happened.
That 2024 really was the end of a certain era of politics.
And certainly, I think, the end of the Obama era, the end of the neoliberal era, and really just kind of the end of him really having a major influence in our national conversation.
And you kind of see that reflected in the way that so many millennials, which were his coalition, have now moved over to Trump and Vance and others.
Who are actually going to do something about this?
And oh, by the way, you can even kind of see that reflected in Trump's nominees because Hegseth and J.D. Vance himself and Tulsi, not only are they veterans, they're the GWAT, you know, Global War and Terror veterans who believed so much of the stuff that was going around back then and then have moved off.
But not to get into the nominees, but Gerdusky, talk to me about millennials moving away from Obama.
Right.
I think that if you look back, I mean, remember what years we came into adulthood and came into our formative years, which was the Bush years.
And the second term of Bush, I mean, the first term he was very well respected because of 9-11.
But the second term of Bush, it was really a horrific Presidency, the second term of Bush.
I mean, it was awful.
There was very little positives you could say about it.
From the gutting of manufacturing to the endless war on terror that put thousands of people either in body bags or came back with horrible PTSD. And the inflation and the stock market crash, all of those things culminated at the end of the Bush presidency.
So to still want to be a Republican post-George W. Bush was like announcing that you were a leper.
It was very, very, very strange if you were a millennial.
There was a genuine groundswell of support for Barack Obama that did feel like a movement, a youth movement, and it was electorally.
It's taken 20 years or nearly 20 years to really come out of that.
You know, cultural fights like gay marriage, which put a lot of millennials into the Democratic quarter, they're not, it's not an issue anymore.
Abortion wasn't an issue for millennials the way that many people thought that it would be.
It's not like many 35-year-olds are, you know, a lot of them are either A, married or B, never planned to marry or have full control of their body autonomy.
So It's not.
All the cultural flashpoints that the left has been using and banking on for nearly 20 years really have gone by the wayside.
The economic standpoint for millennials who are looking for their first home or their second home or whatever the case, or trying to afford maybe private school for their children, it's become economically unavailable to them.
Things that were within reach a couple of years ago And I spoke to someone who I remember they voted Republican for the very first time ever for the Connecticut governor's race.
That was in 2022. And they were like, I feel weird about it, but this is not working.
And there was these slow-moving things throughout the years where I think by 2024, they were like, this is...
What I have believed in, what I have done, is clearly not working.
And the issues of, like, Ukraine or democracy or whatnot, or abortion, they care about them to a certain extent, but not more than their pocketbook, not more than the price of groceries, not more than their personal safety, not more than their ability to buy a home.
And Donald Trump did something very, very specific in this election cycle.
The Bush administration, to be a Republican, meant you had to really whisper about it in most corners of the country.
Donald Trump made himself, and thus Republicans as a whole, a bigger, for lack of a term, more socially appropriate thing.
You know, Trump going to UFC fights was an event within itself.
Who would stop by and say hello to him?
With Trump going on a million podcasts was super, super important for people who consume that, not just like 18-year-olds, 20-year-olds, most 30-year-olds is how they get their news from.
And people who are intellectually curious, you want to hear, I wrote this in the American Conservative piece, you want to hear, you know, Trump talk about Jeffrey Epstein, there's a podcast episode.
Or how about aliens, it's a podcast episode.
Inflation, there's a podcast episode.
Immigration, whatever the case is.
He became more relatable through these events, through these things, while Kamala Harris, through her celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey and Beyonce, became less relatable.
The average person cannot relate to Oprah Winfrey or Taylor Swift or Beyonce.
But Andrew Schultz is much more relatable or Joe Rogan is relatable to a lot of people despite being super wealthy because that's how they've made their money.
That's how they made their fortune is by being a relatable personality who doesn't come across as untouchable because they're so famous.
And Donald Trump, as a man who's been wealthy his whole life and famous most of his life, longer than most people alive, the average American's life has been more famous than, became an approachable person.
The ability in the last 22 months to change a public image by somebody who is universally known Is almost unheard of.
And I think that that came through the way he approached media.
And also, I think by his indictments, he went from being a quote unquote bully to a martyr for a lot of people.
And all that I think really worked, especially within the 30 to 45 age range.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And I love the piece there that you put together.
We have a quick break here, but this is huge.
In the next segment, though, I want to talk about your contention that this is a coalition that potentially has legs for future and more and more elections going forward.
Stay tuned.
Ryan Groduski, the MAGA governing majority.
Stay tuned. - Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
Okay, Jack Posobiec back, Human Events Daily.
Here we are.
We're on with Ryan Gerdusky.
So Gerdusky, walk me through this.
Look, President Trump, he can't run again.
We have a constitution that says so and no real chance of, you know, I don't think any real discussion of that being changed anytime soon.
So what's MAGA to do with this governing majority that's been put together here?
Right.
And as I wrote, it's in the American conservative magazine, amconmag.com.
It's called The Governing Majority, if you can keep it, is the article.
I really hope everyone reads it.
So what I write about is specifically coalitions of new people.
And the same that Nixon brought evangelicals and white southerners and neoconservatives and ethnic whites into the party in 1968 to build his first governing majority, which won five of the next six presidential elections.
Trump has brought a lot of minorities, inner city, Minorities, especially Asians and Latinos, ex-urban, sorry, suburban and ex-urban minorities, which are a specifically large amount in some cities, suburbs.
We think suburbs are all white.
They're very, very diverse now.
And young men, especially.
How you continue this is very, very important going into the future because when someone casts a vote for a Republican presidential candidate for the very first time, they have not signed up yet to be a Republican.
And it is very common, as it was with Nixon and with Reagan and George H.W. Bush and even George W. Bush, a lot of people with long Traditional history of voting Democrat would vote Republican at the top of the ballot and Democrat down.
That's why the South remains solidly Democrat all throughout the Nixon and Reagan area, even though they were voting for Reagan.
There were still Southern Democrats, Southern white Democrats going to George W. Bush.
States like West Virginia didn't flip till 2012, 2014. So these things take a long time in some cases.
I think with right now with the left being so insane and we're seeing this a lot right now with the with a penny case over in New York where they're defending criminality, homelessness, all the worst elements of urban plight.
And saying, no, this is normative and the real problem was a white guy protecting people, not a black person who had mental health issues, criminality and homelessness, or they call it the unhoused now.
Their need to root for societal breakdown, I think, really pushes a lot of people to question long-held political alliances.
If Republicans really double down on this effort to make life healthier, more affordable, more secure, protect our borders, And really reach into MAGA issues that were a step further away from, let's say, the Reagan issues.
The 1980s, not bashing Ronald Reagan, it's just a completely different time.
It's been half a century.
For older viewers, you get very, very angry when you say anything negative about Reagan.
If you lean into these new issues, I think you will create a pattern where you'll see the suburbs of New York City, which includes New Jersey and parts of Connecticut, moving, moving further Republican.
New Jersey becoming a Republican state.
Young people, rather than breaking 70-30 or 75-25, breaking 55-45 and then eventually becoming a majority Republican.
All of these things, young black men, young Hispanic men, young white men, which were moving more democratic up till this last election.
Young white men were also being beaten down by it.
Really sitting there and saying that the left's Support for anarchy and rooting against civilization is antithetical to American values.
By the way, I would even throw New Hampshire in that bucket as well.
I think New Hampshire is right for those demographics.
Oh, yeah.
I know a lot of people haven't mentioned it, but I think New Hampshire is right there.
Yeah, I mean, listen, New Hampshire was considered, why even bother going there when JD went to campaign there?
It was a two-point state.
Minnesota was a two-point state.
This is not that far away from getting there.
Maine was only, I think, seven points, and New Mexico was five.
This is very, very, very winnable.
This is very easily to get, and I think that we can get there.
It doesn't have to be a situation where we are always dependent upon three Midwestern states, as much as you love Pennsylvania, but that we're always dependent upon them.
I think we can grow the map, and I think we can grow the map based upon this new coalition.
Trump got within six of New Jersey.
There's no reason why we can't win the governorship and make it a 1.2-point statement.
Remember, Jersey was Republican from 1968 to 1988 in every election.
New Jersey is a former Republican state anyway, so it already generally has the demographics that you would expect.
Now, immigration has obviously played a huge role in that, but there are ways through this path to be able to get back to it.
And in addition to that, you're looking at so many of these states going forward that it just makes sense.
It just makes so much sense to try to expand the map.
And I'll throw out that if we get the census figured out, then we'll already be able to...
I mean, you get the census figured out that you are probably going to win more electoral votes just in terms of internal migration in the country than the state of Wisconsin is worth in terms of electoral votes.
2020 is the last presidential election cycle, based on current trends, where we will need a single Midwestern state.
Republicans could win, winning every single state that Trump won outside of Michigan, Wisconsin.
Ryan, before we sign off, I hear there's a special announcement that you wanted to make regarding a place where people can go to find all these fantastic insights that you have.
Yes.
Thank you so much, Jack.
I am launching a new podcast on the Buck and Clay Network for iHeartRadio.
It's called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Gerdusky, where I will be breaking down statistics and data.
Very, very important once a week and describing why you should learn about it and what you should know about it.
So thank you for giving me that shout out.
That's absolutely incredible.
Congratulations, by the way.
Hugely earned.
Fantastic book that you wrote a while back on populism.
Now a huge podcast coming forward.
And of course, we all love Ryan Gruduski's run on CNN. His epic run where he flew straight into the sun.
Straight into the face of the sun.
And just like, I'm going for broke.
I know they're going to fire me anyway.
So...
Thank you for that.
Your first episode should be all the greatest hits.
Thanks, Ryan.
Guys, go give Ryan a follow.
Go follow his new podcast.
Make sure you check that out when it comes, and go watch the CNN clips, because they're just some of the greatest things you'll ever see.
Scott Jennings does all right, but Ryan went absolutely into the paint.
