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Nov. 30, 2024 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec

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A THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving

Charlie, Jack, Tyler, and Blake debate all-important Thanksgiving holiday questions, including:-Is steak an acceptable Thanksgiving dish?-Why are there no great Thanksgiving films?-Is Black Friday ruined?-Is the date of Thanksgiving a sneaky plot by FDR?THOUGHTCRIME streams LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday night at 8pm ET.Support the show

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	From the age of Big Brother.
	If they want to get you, they'll get you.
	The NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
	They're collecting your communications.
	Okay, everybody.
	Hello.
	It is Thought Crime week.
	It is Thanksgiving week.
	And we are here.
	By the way, the official uniform of Thought Crime this week is the Thanksgiving uniform.
	I decided to go as Charlie Kirk for this Thanksgiving.
	I didn't fully shave.
	I might later.
	And then, like, your hair thing where you do, like, the down-up.
	Hey, it's the natural colic.
	It's like a Nike swoosh.
	It is.
	I have it trademarked.
	Is that why you only wear Nikes?
	I actually don't only wear Nikes, but I should.
	So we also have Blake and Tyler as well.
	What are they wearing?
	Let's see.
	Blake is probably wearing a t-shirt.
	I'm wearing my turkey hat.
	I believe this is a Kirkland shirt.
	I don't actually have a Costco membership, but I'll be honest, my mother buys a lot of shirts for me.
	I'm wearing my turkey hat, my Native American shawl.
	I hear all you guys in there.
	And then my Arizona State t-shirt because we're going to the Big 12 Championship.
	Unless things go awry on Saturday.
	Well, maybe.
	Hold on, Tyler.
	You know the story of Arizona football.
	Whatever is predictable.
	Tyler knows this.
	They will curse whatever inevitable path they have.
	They mess it up.
	It is an inevitability of Arizona State football.
	I've got a front row seat, Charlie, on Saturday with my two brothers right behind Kenny Dillingham.
	So...
	And down in Tucson.
	This is a very dumb question.
	Oh, you're going down to Tucson?
	I'm going down to Tucson and front row seat.
	I like Tucson.
	Tucson's nice.
	So it's going to be a miserable drive back if we lose.
	This is a dumb question, having never gone to an ASU football game.
	Do they just, like, suffer in complete agony for their first, like, three home games of the season?
	Because, you know...
	Oh, no, they do evenings.
	Evenings.
	They do them in the evenings.
	It's still 95 degrees in Arizona.
	It's a nice brisk 98. But here's the factoid for everybody that's listening.
	Arizona has the longest rivalry game in the country.
	The Territorial Cup.
	Between Arizona State and Arizona.
	People don't believe it.
	Look it up.
	No way.
	Oregon, Oregon State has to be older.
	No.
	Look it up.
	Territorial Cup is the longest recognized NCAA football rivalry.
	Here come all the caveats.
	It's the oldest.
	Is it like the oldest that has a trophy for it?
	How is it older than 1873?
	Yale Princeton is pretty I mean, Yale-Princeton was 1873. No, but it's a rivalry game.
	I'm surprised it's not older than that.
	Yale-Princeton is a rivalry game.
	They hate each other.
	You have to look up the territory of that.
	Montana, Montana State, 1897. That's pretty old.
	Illinois State, Eastern Illinois, 1901. Arizona wasn't even a state back then.
	No one lived in Arizona except there couldn't be an Arizona State because there wasn't a state.
	Tyler's people live there.
	I'm looking online and it says the duel in the desert is just 1899 and there's many rivalries that are older than 1899. There's Michigan-Notre Dame, 1887, Duke-North Carolina, 1888. Guys, it's the oldest one that Tyler knows about.
	No, no, no.
	Look at Google, Territorial Cup, Army-Navy game, 1890. I feel like the Army-Navy game is pretty old.
	And they're still going.
	Territorial Cup.
	The nation's oldest rivalry trophy.
	Oldest trophy.
	You can't really have a cup without a trophy.
	You can just spiritually have one.
	That's it.
	And that was Territorial.
	That's what's called a Territorial Cup.
	Sounds like your Territorial.
	Arizona State was the normal school.
	And that was it.
	Big time.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	I'm not saying it's good football.
	I'm just saying it's...
	By the way, since it is a Thanksgiving Day episode, I wanted to flag that we have all something very important to be grateful for.
	Remember Real Raw News, Charlie?
	You remember Real Raw News, America's only trustworthy news source?
	They have a breaking report today, just before Thanksgiving.
	Special Forces have arrested Kamala Harris.
	She has come back from her vacation in Hawaii, but...
	They nabbed her.
	According to the story, there were moles inside of her Secret Service detail, and they couldn't get her in Hawaii.
	I guess Hawaii is like the deep state safe zone where they control things.
	But they got her back to D.C., which is also a deep state safe zone, but not as safe.
	And so they managed to take her into custody.
	She and Doug Emhoff will be sent to Gitmo to stand trial for treason.
	I'm glad Real Raw News is able to get...
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	I was worried that she might be out there making those greens.
	So Tyler's half right.
	It's the oldest trophy.
	It's the oldest trophy.
	That is legit.
	So it is the oldest trophy.
	The Territorial Cup.
	It's pretty impressive for Arizona.
	It doesn't sound like it's a trophy.
	It sounds like it's a cup.
	Yeah, he's right.
	The Territorial Cup was created 125 years ago for the 1899 championship.
	It's the oldest rivalry trophy in college football.
	But what was the school even called before?
	I don't know.
	ASU was called the Normal School.
	It was called the Normal School.
	It was literally called Tempe Normal.
	Tempe Normal.
	And Arizona.
	Huh.
	And then it was called Arizona State Teachers.
	The Territorial Cup is so old that it literally is like a cup.
	It looks like a vase that you would put flowers in.
	I thought no one lived in Arizona until like 1930. No, but my ancestors were there.
	It was literally just two football teams.
	Prior to 1912, it was just two football teams.
	It's remarkable.
	And to go that you had to replace someone on the team.
	Arizona's population in 1890 was 88,000 people.
	When did your family move here?
	We chased more than twice as many.
	65% of them were related to Tyler.
	I'm a 7th generation Arizona.
	When did the oldest Boyer show up here?
	It wasn't Boyer.
	It was Lambs and those people.
	But it was the 1860s.
	In 1860, the population of Arizona was 6,482 people.
	That is OG. Second cousins with Sheriff Lamb.
	Yep.
	Man, now there's 6,000, there's like probably more than that within like a couple blocks of here.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	Alright, speaking of getting out into the wild, they say evolution has gone soft and that men have traded their strength for comfort.
	But if you're not about to let your instincts go dull, slam fuel up with something raw and real!
	You hear that?
	It's in the script, Blake.
	Raw and real.
	Right there.
	It's in the script, right, Jack?
	Am I making it up?
	Something raw, real, and primal.
	By the way, we should do a spinoff called Primal News.
	By the way, Blake could be a millionaire running Primal News as a spinoff of Real Raw News because he understands that language so well.
	We should just call it...
	Is there a Primal News?
	I don't even want to see what that would be.
	I don't think there is.
	No, there's no Primal News.
	I'm sure that would be great.
	Primal News, okay.
	This is going to end wrong.
	Not good.
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	It's called naked organs.
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	Time to silence the noise, reclaim your power, and get back to being unstoppable.
	Okay, guys, we have to talk about Thanksgiving.
	Is it okay to eat steak on Thanksgiving?
	Yes, but not if it's the only thing you eat on Thanksgiving.
	No.
	No.
	That's incorrect.
	Incorrect.
	Not allowed.
	No.
	No, you can have...
	Tyler and I were discussing this.
	You're saying not at all?
	Not at all.
	Not at all.
	You can have...
	You must have turkey.
	It is required to have turkey.
	You may have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey.
	But, like, it should be...
	Any meat you have should be from, like, a central meat dispensing entity.
	You cannot have individualized servings of meat.
	That is...
	That is my position on Thanksgiving.
	The steak is not from a central meat dispensing.
	No, like you don't make a giant, you don't make like a 50 pound steak and then take like a piece of it and like pass the giant super steak around.
	That's what you do with ham or turkey.
	You make the whole turkey or you make the whole ham and you cut a little bit of it.
	But you don't do that with steak.
	No, but that's what I'm saying.
	That's what I'm saying.
	You can have a separate serving of a plate of steak for people.
	Similar to the ham.
	No, it's just wrong.
	Because ham is like supplement to the turkey taste.
	You have to have turkey and ham on your plate.
	You don't need ham, though.
	No, you don't need ham.
	You have to have turkey.
	No, no, I'm a turkey purist.
	But some people think that they can start to get really...
	Now, Christmas is a completely different ballgame.
	There are no rules with Christmas.
	Ham is usually center, but steak is acceptable.
	You want the ham.
	Yeah, but no, but still, Christmas is a whole...
	Thanksgiving, it is un-American.
	Not to have either turkey, some sort of dressing, cranberries, but here's the thing about the cranberry thing.
	If you want to be an ultra traditionalist, it must be straight out of the can, taken vertically with no adjustments.
	And now if you want to have the...
	Wait, is this some Chicago thing now?
	Hold on.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	And if you want to have cranberry with adjustments, that could be supplementary.
	But however, it must be out of the can and you just take it vertically and it just jiggles.
	Walk me through your stuffing.
	The stuffing is very interesting.
	Okay.
	Now here's the big question.
	Yes.
	Does the stuffing go in the turkey or is it prepared outside of the turkey?
	Is that stuffing versus dressing?
	Do you prepare it and then put it in, cook it with the turkey?
	Or some people will prepare it and then just put it in for like the final lay.
	You gotta go the full lantha.
	So dressing has to be obviously cornbread.
	Yes.
	Some sort of celeries and carrots.
	Sure.
	Sausage.
	Need your crunch factor.
	Little crunch.
	Mix that all together.
	But you know what makes the stuffing really kicker?
	The gravy.
	Yes.
	And so you need the gravy.
	You have the stuffing.
	You have the jiggling cranberry.
	You got the turkey.
	And that's all that's accepted.
	And then also maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes.
	Green bean casserole.
	How do you make the sweet potatoes?
	No, no, no.
	See, now we're getting to...
	No, no, no.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	What's the issue with green bean casserole?
	I just, it's not allowed.
	What do you mean it's not allowed?
	You're getting too cute.
	Green bean casserole is not cute.
	No, it's a staple.
	It's a total staple.
	With the fried onions.
	No, no, no.
	I like the long, uninterrupted, unblemished Green beans.
	With butter?
	With butter.
	Yeah.
	That's good though.
	No, those are good too, but that's not green bean casserole.
	I never said casserole.
	The casserole is a...
	No, we are saying casserole is a staple.
	It's an absolute Thanksgiving staple.
	I don't think it's a staple.
	100%.
	And then, let me think what else.
	Okay, yes, then the sweet potatoes.
	Sure.
	But none of this marshmallow stuff.
	You see, this is new age, and it's a mistake.
	We're all of a sudden...
	We're going full trad.
	No, no.
	It's a mixture of...
	It's like 1950s Thanksgiving.
	Right.
	That's why it's like the...
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying no marshmallows.
	No, no, no marshmallows.
	The marshmallow thing is a disgrace.
	Well, Charlie, hold on a second, though, because there is one thing...
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	There is one thing, one dish that we know for a fact was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.
	You know where I'm going with this.
	Smallpox?
	No, no, no, Charlie.
	Not what we served.
	What was served to us.
	Oh, got it.
	Corn.
	Oh, see, no, no, no.
	Corn was served at the original Thanksgiving, Charlie.
	The only corn that is acceptable is cornbread, I will say.
	You have to bend the knee to the corn god, and cornbread has to be either the dressing, the stuffing.
	Do you agree, Tyler?
	Longtime ThotKime listeners will remember that Charlie is like...
	Blake radicalized me against the corn god.
	He's an anti-cornite.
	I think corn has no redemptive value, unless it is for Thanksgiving, because then it is a sacrament to Squanto.
	No, corn is good in the summertime.
	We eat the corn on Thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry corn god has not destroyed us.
	No, corn on the cob is summer.
	This is exactly right.
	I forget the corn god's name in the movie.
	No, no, we're not talking about corn on the cob.
	We're talking about corn elements.
	Corn bread, for example.
	Corn bread is great.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Even Charlie Kirk, the chief anti-corn.
	Wow, this is huge.
	This is big.
	Let's be very clear.
	Thanksgiving is not about what you want.
	It's not what you want to do.
	It is what your ancestors did.
	Okay.
	And it doesn't matter.
	You don't want to do.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	It's not about...
	I don't care about if you don't like cranberries, you don't like turkeys, suck it up.
	It's Thanksgiving.
	There is no...
	This modernity, like, I'm gonna put, like...
	Tanya doesn't...
	Tanya will not eat turkey.
	She won't do it.
	It doesn't matter.
	She'll make it.
	She won't eat it.
	Figure it out.
	She won't eat it.
	So here in Arizona...
	I don't know what to tell you.
	I completely agree with Charlie.
	I think the canned cranberry is a must on the table.
	However...
	You have to have a sec.
	In Arizona we have jalapeno cranberries.
	Incredible.
	If you haven't had it.
	I know you're regionalizing this too much.
	Jalapeno cranberries.
	It adds a little spice.
	It's just a little bit.
	Like when I went to the Grand Canyon last summer and I discovered that I guess they just sell like prickly pear everything at every Arizona tourism thing.
	That's anywhere in Arizona.
	So I have a question for everybody though, and this is getting deep into the weeds.
	So we talked about stuffing or dressing.
	Moist stuffing or dry stuffing?
	It's got to be dry, but the gravy makes it moist.
	If you make it too moist...
	Before the gravy.
	You always make it more moist.
	Before the gravy.
	You can't...
	It has to be on the spectrum of tilt moist, but not too much, because if it's too dry, then it's just...
	It's too brittle.
	And brittle...
	There's nothing worse than brittle dressing.
	You call it dressing or stuffing?
	Scoopable.
	I'm noticing that you call it dressing.
	It should be stuffing.
	However, I've been corrected many times.
	I've always called it stuffing, even though it's not technically stuffing unless it's within the turkey.
	Yes.
	Dressing's outside the turkey.
	No, it's not.
	I grew up calling it stuffing, even though we never put it in the turkey.
	I get that, but the type of food would be called still stuffing.
	Dressing is like for salads.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Dressing is outside...
	Tyler knows that's right.
	I reject that completely.
	For me, stuffing is like a type of food and it should be used to stuffing it, but it is still stuffing even if it's not doing the stuffing.
	There's lots of things that we have where we don't use the name properly, but we still call it that because it used to be done that way.
	I'm excited for Thanksgiving at this point.
	This is great.
	So people know, we're pre-taping this.
	Yeah, ahead of.
	We are, today is we are on Tuesday.
	No, we are.
	We actually blew off Thanksgiving to do this broadcast.
	We're supposed to be eating right now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So now let's now go to the more fundamental question.
	Okay.
	Dessert.
	Okay?
	Because that really is what...
	Do you need a set...
	Well, for me, I mean, if I have...
	All right, go ahead.
	No, no, you go.
	I have at times, and my mom knows this, I have left the house, gone to the store, and purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and brought it home and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available.
	It is required.
	Oh, I completely agree.
	It is like...
	100% required.
	The first commandment of Thanksgiving is, thou shall have pumpkin pie with whipped cream.
	With whipped cream, yes.
	It is a non-negotiable.
	Right, if it's not there, like, I got up, I got in my car, I was like, I'm just gonna go.
	Now, Ryan asks a really good question.
	Is Thanksgiving meal a lunch or a dinner?
	The answer is around 3.30 to 4 p.m.
	Yeah.
	That is the sweet spot.
	Right as the sun is going down in Chicago, boom, you sit down, right?
	That is way too late.
	It is itself its own meal.
	No, no.
	That's way too late.
	You do it.
	I would say Neff family tradition is maybe 1 to 1.30 p.m.
	Ah, it's so early.
	Super early.
	What are you doing?
	Halftime of the second football game.
	When are you going to sleep?
	Halftime of the second football game.
	The first football game is the Lions.
	The Cowboys are always second.
	We have a tradition in our house.
	Halftime at Cowboys, we get seated.
	Because we're cheering that the Cowboys will lose.
	Yes.
	Well, that's good, but that's just way too late.
	We share the tradition as well.
	TV's off during the meal.
	TV should be off.
	I greatly dislike the TV sanctification of Thanksgiving.
	I don't know.
	I would watch I would consider it, like, if the Packers are on, I would watch the Packers, but I do not consider it essential to watch.
	Now there's three games on Thanksgiving.
	Well, we usually have, like...
	No, this is true.
	There has been a desecration.
	It used to be only two games, and it was on Fox.
	It would be the Lions.
	It used to be bad, and now they're good.
	And actually, who do they play this week?
	Let me see.
	I bet it's actually a pretty good lineup.
	And then it was the Cowboys, but now NBC got greedy because it was Fox had their game, CBS had their game, and then NBC got greedy and they snuck in their own.
	So is that this week?
	No.
	Okay, let me see here.
	What do we got?
	We got a new week of football.
	Okay, there's three games.
	Oh, Blake, you're in luck!
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	I'll see it.
	It's the evening game too.
	The Dolphins are visiting Lambeau.
	Okay, I'm going to be watching that.
	Oh, and Chicago plays on Thanksgiving.
	Oh, wow.
	They're going to get annihilated.
	They're going to die.
	At Detroit.
	It's going to be bad.
	By the way, you can tell who's having a better season.
	Tickets start at Ford Field for $181.
	Tickets start at Jerry Stademan, $28.
	Yeah, my son asked me the other day, because he saw when we went to the Eagles game, and he was like all jealous that we went.
	And so he was like, oh, Daddy, give me some Eagles tickets.
	We'll go.
	And so we looked up the ones for Thanksgiving weekend, and I was like, I got to sell a lot more pillows.
	Yeah.
	Like, Eagles tickets right now are, it was, $500 was like the highest nosebleed.
	311 is where they start at.
	Insane.
	Yeah, this week.
	You're seeing what, 311?
	And that's in Baltimore, Baltimore.
	But if Baltimore's so close, you're basically in the same...
	Philly light, right?
	Yeah, you're pretty much in...
	It's like 90 minutes.
	You know, the way I drive, it's 90 minutes.
	Okay, so now that we have developed something...
	By the way, by the way, I don't want to throw my mom under the bus because every single year, and I know she's going to watch this, every single year post that, there's like a selection of pumpkin pies that is always...
	That's the way it must be.
	By the way, do you think that pecan pie can also make an appearance?
	Of course.
	Other pies can be there, but pumpkin is the only one.
	Pecan pie, I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie.
	However, I must have a slice of pumpkin pie first.
	Wait, were you always like that though?
	When you were little, did you like pecan pie first?
	My mom makes a killer pecan pie.
	Okay.
	Like, destroys the world.
	Okay.
	What about chocolate pie?
	So when I was younger, I was always pumpkin, but then pecan pie...
	Well, now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie, and that's where you just surrender.
	You're just done at that point.
	It's just...
	So you throw, you throw, because guys, you know, folks who don't know, Charlie, you're usually pretty strict with your diet.
	You're usually...
	Pretty strict.
	It's like...
	Yeah, you're usually like...
	No, no, no, but Thanksgiving's different.
	Thanksgiving, you go all in, and it is a holy day.
	By the way, I think Thanksgiving is one of America's greatest traditions.
	It is.
	Because it's a day just to give thanks.
	I think it's uniquely awesome.
	Talk about that for a little bit because there's, you know, a lot of people say, well, it's, you know, it's just about the, you know, it's the Indians, it's the pilgrims.
	Well, everything is what you make of it, right?
	Who cares?
	There's no God involved.
	Why do you say it's holy?
	Well, no, first of all, the pilgrims were definitely giving thanks to God.
	They were?
	They were not giving, you know, thanks to Brahman.
	They're giving thanks to the Almighty God.
	But yeah, secondly, I just think it's amazing, especially during this season where we have such abundance and we won the election, that there's a day where you just stop and you say thank you, which then of course acknowledges you're saying thank you to a higher power.
	And I don't know of another nation or another country that has a day of gratitude.
	I think I actually said this once and I guess there was like some random African country that has it and that's fine.
	I got like in trouble for saying this last year.
	Okay, so fine.
	I guess Senegal has a day like that.
	I'll look it up.
	Great job, Senegal!
	Or whatever.
	But a day of gratitude.
	I subscribe to the Prager.
	Hopefully he's doing better.
	He's fighting like crazy right now.
	Belief.
	He's really struggling.
	That happiness is impossible if you are not grateful.
	And I believe that.
	I do not think you can have joy.
	I do not think you can be content if you are not grateful.
	And I think it's a beautiful thing as a nation.
	We have a day to say thank you.
	We have to dunk on the nation.
	Who always gave us the story of Thanksgiving.
	No, just real quick, shout out to the OG who always told us the true story of Thanksgiving, Rush Limbaugh.
	Oh, man, he was an OG on that.
	He just did it every year.
	I've got a recording of it somewhere, and we used to play it.
	I've got to re-listen that.
	It's so good.
	Send that to me tonight.
	I've got to try to recreate it.
	I did something on the show last year where I sort of like, I didn't try to do it like Rush did it, but I told the story.
	And people just have to keep telling that story over and over and over.
	They tried socialism.
	It failed.
	Then they tried giving people ownership of their various plots of land, and then they had an overabundance of their harvest, and so they gave thanks to God.
	What a concept.
	What an incredible concept.
	But instead, now it's all like, oh, the Pilgrims were dying and the Indians had to come and they saved the Pilgrims because they were stupid Europeans, didn't know anything.
	Even though Squanto had actually lived in Europe, he had been in London more recently than the Pilgrims had.
	That's how he spoke English so well, but of course, you know, facts are...
	Blake, you were saying something.
	First of all, I was saying we should make fun of Canada for having their knockoff Thanksgiving.
	That is just one month before ours.
	I think we should always use every opportunity to bully Canada because it's fun.
	But also, even the full story of Thanksgiving, because...
	Evil liberals always want to dunk on it.
	It's even more beautiful than just the pilgrims doing it when they settled here.
	The very first annual Thanksgiving national holiday, 4th Thursday in November clockwork, that was started by Abraham Lincoln in 1863. Middle of the Civil War, the peak of the Civil War.
	I think that's probably the bloodiest year of the Civil War.
	And he says, yes, in the middle of this, we're going to have a celebration of national Thanksgiving.
	And that was what set it as a national holiday.
	George Washington declared a day of Thanksgiving.
	It's truly...
	It's a great thing because it is possibly the one great national tradition that was created in America that we have had for the entire history of America that is just totally our own thing.
	And then us being America, we have exported it to the rest of the world in various ways.
	Someone was very shocked to learn.
	I was talking to a foreigner who was like, wasn't Black Friday this week?
	No.
	No, Black Friday is this week.
	It's kind of terrible.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I used to be a Black Friday person, but now I'm done.
	It's awful.
	It's just so awful.
	And it's not even Black Friday anymore because Black Friday...
	Well, Charlie, given everything that you just said about the importance of Thanksgiving, what do you think about the people who leave Thanksgiving dinner early to go and start shopping?
	First of all, I totally...
	When I grew up, it was actually Black Friday.
	Yeah.
	Now it's, like, Black Thursday evening.
	Right.
	And it's not like you start lining up.
	Like, the sales actually begin.
	It's actually interesting.
	For younger listeners that don't know, after so many people got trampled in the Walmart raids because people would line up, they keep the stores open.
	Right.
	They don't close them and reopen them.
	Because it used to be that Walmart would close and then you line up and you go.
	And then all the deals and the sales would be set and then people would get trampled so much.
	I think someone almost died and they got hospitalized and there were tons of lawsuits.
	No, people did die.
	This is the plot of that.
	Did people die?
	Is that right?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, people died.
	That's terrible.
	People got ran over.
	I didn't know they died.
	There's that Thanksgiving horror movie.
	This is actually the plot where people get killed and then like someone's getting revenge on the people who started the stampede.
	So, I had no problem with, like, you have a really, really good Thanksgiving, and then you want to get good deals on stuff.
	And I think that was fine.
	It was like a good kickoff to the Christmas season.
	But, and it used to be, when I grew up, there was a grittiness to Black Friday.
	It took real spirit.
	So you have to understand, I grew up in Chicago.
	It would always be like sub-20 degrees.
	And if you wanted to get a Black Friday deal, you had to earn it.
	So you had to like leave with your family at like 10 p.m.
	after all that turkey's full.
	And you like stood in line at Target from the open their doors at 12.01.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	And you would, like, shop all night, and you would, like, get 7-Eleven coffee and get home by, like, 5 a.m., and you felt like, I earned this deal.
	And it was, like, a sense of accomplishment.
	You know what I mean?
	And you had to have, there was, like, a limit to what you could get.
	Of course!
	No, and it was very narrow.
	So it was like one specific thing.
	We would go through catalogs and go through what was on sale.
	This was all before internet.
	I'm going to throw to Blake in a second.
	The internet ruined it.
	Also, there was a divide and conquer strategy of what stores are we going to hit?
	Are we going to go to Best Buy?
	Are we going to go to Home Depot?
	And you're shopping for other people.
	And there was a real conquest chess game where it's like, oh, wow, Best Buy opens at 1130 and Walmart's at midnight.
	My strategy would always be, like, I would find the one store that was, like, within a 45-minute drive, but in, like, a non-populated area that people didn't think about.
	Or, like, a Staples, because nobody thinks that Staples would have stuff, but they do have computers and different, you know, hide items.
	So, like, what's the thing that people aren't going to think about?
	And that's where I'm going to go.
	And now you just wait for Cyber Monday and click a couple buttons.
	And so all the adventure of it, and you don't earn it anymore.
	It used to be you'd get home at 3.30 in the morning, you're like, I got a good deal on a big screen TV. It was a teenage rite of passage in suburban Chicago.
	Blake, your thoughts?
	Yeah, it was really...
	I can still think of individual things I went out of my way to get on Black Friday.
	I think I still have a PlayStation 3 that I got in 2011. I think I can remember the exact deal.
	It was a PS Slim, $250.
	It came with LittleBigPlanet and some crummy Ratchet and Clank game.
	Who cares?
	But that was the best deal you could get for, I think, two years after that point.
	But what ended up killing it was...
	As you said, you know, you'd go for the timing.
	It used to be, okay, it was on Black Friday normal hours.
	Then they would open it at like 6 a.m.
	in the morning and people would show up before.
	Then someone got ahead and made it, oh, let's open exactly at midnight.
	And then what finally killed it, I think, the rise of the internet was a factor.
	But another thing that killed it was...
	Companies decided to get so green, they just said, we're doing Black Friday on Thanksgiving!
	And they would just be open on Thanksgiving with those deals.
	And I think to America's credit, there was popular backlash to this, where they're saying, wait, you're forcing employees to skip Thanksgiving to come in and work on Thanksgiving.
	Oh yeah.
	Though, I must hedge, I have to be personally grateful for the fact that stores are open on Thanksgiving, some of them, because I visited a friend, this is about 10 years ago, I went down to a friend in Tennessee for Thanksgiving, and I took a megabus down, you know, poor, we have to travel by bus, and I took a megabus down, and I had a bag under it, and I had to get off in Chattanooga, which was, the final destination was Atlanta.
	And they get out and they're like, okay, where's your bag?
	I'm like, oh, it's under the thing.
	And they open it and they feel around.
	They're like, ah, yeah, we can't find it.
	We have a schedule to do.
	We have to go.
	And they just drove away with my bag, with all of my changes of clothes.
	And I arrived late Wednesday night.
	So I had to go to a Walmart, which thanks to American capitalism, was open on Thanksgiving.
	And I had to buy an entire set of clothes for the whole weekend.
	So I had that perspective.
	I actually, one of my first jobs was in high school.
	I took the seasonal job at Target and my first day, like first real day was Black Friday.
	So I had to wake up after Thanksgiving when I was like a sophomore in high school at like literally 4 a.m.
	I had to be at Target at 4.30, help stock everything.
	This was still the days that they still open the doors like Charlie was talking about before they just like leave it open or open like super early.
	And there would be like, I get there at like 4 o'clock and there would be a line wrapped around the building of people waiting to get in.
	And we had to stalk everything.
	So here's a crazy story.
	So you guys, there's a myth that Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving.
	And you know why that's a myth?
	Because the real truth is that Thanksgiving is the day before Black Friday.
	And that is because...
	Let me finish the story.
	This is because I am not making it up.
	The current date of Thanksgiving is because of an evil plot by FDR. I'm not making this up.
	So, Lincoln's proclamation of Thanksgiving is, Thanksgiving is on the last Thursday of the month.
	It is on the last Thursday.
	It is not on the last Thursday.
	It is currently on the fourth Thursday of the month.
	That is what the federal law is.
	Which requires a Friday.
	So there are sometimes five Thursdays in November, and then it would be on the 4th.
	It used to be on the 5th.
	And then during the Great Depression, I believe in 1939, FDR got in his head, if there's a longer time between Thanksgiving and Christmas, there will be a longer Christmas shopping season, and so people will shop more, and this will stimulate the economy.
	Wow.
	And so he intervened and he moved Thanksgiving to be a week earlier.
	And this became a partisan political issue.
	And so for a few years, Republican states said we're not doing this and we're refusing to go on with it.
	So you had a Democrat Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday and you had a Republican Thanksgiving on the fifth one.
	And I think Texas...
	Because they were a Democrat state, but had a lot of, like, conservative Democrats who didn't like FDR, they called a truce, and they just had, they said, they're both holidays, and they had two Thanksgivings.
	And then, sadly, Congress submitted, and now it's just on the fourth Thursday, and we lost that culture war battle.
	But what you were saying, though, there's a deeper, and producer Faz talks about this all the time.
	His birthday was this week, by the way.
	Shout out.
	He calls it micro-wins, micro-ws.
	So, Charlie, you'd appreciate this, is that in your teenage years, and working retail used to be part of this too, but in your teenage years, there used to be a variety of things that you would do as a rite of passage that have all been pretty much completely destroyed because of new technology.
	One of those, of course, was waiting in line like this.
	Another one of those, having those retail jobs, again, with no phone to Just, you know, constantly be there getting you through it.
	Monotony going through it.
	One of the other ones we...
	I don't know how I got into this the other day on Twitter.
	It's not even Thanksgiving related, but it was like when you used to have to call someone's house and if you wanted to call a girl, You had to call her house and you had to get through mom or potentially dad.
	And so it's like the elimination of all those things in society has now created men or adults who don't actually go through any meaningful right of passage.
	No, I mean, I totally agree with that.
	I mean, some of these other rites of passage were, like, elementary things such as be home before dark.
	Like, that was, like, a very simple thing, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, other rites of passage were that you need to memorize, like you say, the home phone numbers of at least five people that you know.
	Yeah, memorizing phone numbers.
	Right?
	I don't think anybody does that anymore.
	Like, anybody.
	I know Tanya's.
	I know my parents.
	I know all the phone numbers from when I grew up.
	I know a bunch of when I grew up, yeah.
	Like I know a bunch of my buddies, but like my brother got a cell phone later.
	I don't know.
	I also think it was really important that when I used to call somebody's house, I had to speak to an adult.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I think that was a very profound...
	Think about that.
	Think about that.
	I think it's a very under-appreciated...
	There was no texting.
	It didn't exist.
	No.
	When I was in sixth grade, AOL Instant Messenger was just starting.
	Okay.
	And that was a thing.
	But it had to be on a, like, publicly available computer in my house.
	And it wasn't, like, you couldn't, like, bring it with you at all times.
	It was, like, there was, like, a very, you know, like...
	So it was just, like, logging on and logging off was a thing.
	Oh, it was totally a thing.
	You had the away message.
	You would come home to see if you got any messages.
	And I actually, again, I don't even know if that was a healthier version of this crap that we have right now.
	Much healthier.
	And so I loved AOL Instant Messenger for the record.
	I thought it was really fun.
	And it was actually a really, really good service.
	It was really, I mean, I really liked it.
	And it was a lot of our social norms.
	A lot of our social norms on texting came from AOL Instant Messenger.
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	LOL comes from that?
	LOL, BRB, TTYL. LOL absolutely comes from AOL Instant Messenger.
	AOL still exists, by the way.
	There are still millions of people getting dialed up.
	They shut down Instant Messenger.
	Instant Messenger's been dead.
	Not only is Instant Messenger dead, it's been dead for like seven years.
	AIM is done?
	AIM is dead.
	Charlie, it's even older than that because I was on Instant Messenger because...
	Jack and I are a little bit older than you.
	I was on Instagram Messenger.
	No, but I'm saying it was big in my community.
	It started to grow.
	Tyler is way older than Charlie.
	Way old.
	So, Jack's older than me.
	Tyler actually is the first.
	That's what that brings back.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I loved AOL Instant Messenger.
	On my wedding invite.
	Yahoo, MSN. Here's another rite of passage.
	Okay.
	Playing a video game so much that it overheats.
	What was overheating?
	Or playing a game.
	Jack knows what I'm talking about.
	Especially computer games, though.
	No, no, no, no.
	If you play for too long and your computer wasn't that sophisticated or good, the whole hard drive would start to overheat, right?
	That's a real thing.
	100%.
	Or how about another one?
	Playing on either Age of Empires or Sims or whatever it was and it malfunctioning before you save or you can log your progress.
	Right?
	Mom unplugging the Nintendo before...
	Well, when you were on, like, level 8 of Mario and there was no way to save.
	No way at all, boys and girls.
	Mom telling you to pause the game when it's actually online and you're playing against other people?
	Yeah.
	I had numerous times defeating a level in Super Mario and then forgetting to save it and you shut it off and you go back and you're like, ugh!
	It's so funny.
	The things we worried about back then were just so insignificant.
	I'll say this.
	I don't know if any of you guys remember this one.
	I miss New Music Tuesdays.
	Does anyone else remember New Music Tuesdays?
	Yeah, albums would release on Tuesdays, right?
	I think games still released on Tuesdays a lot.
	They did at least when I was a kid, I think.
	Oh, thank God.
	There's something.
	But maybe that might have varied now, too.
	A group of music...
	And it was always Tuesdays that would come out.
	So you used to have like these mini Black Friday type things where you'd go on.
	I guess people still kind of do it for games where you would come out for, you know, new music or, you know, a new album was dropping.
	So back when music actually was like good.
	That being said, I did see Creed again this week.
	So...
	I'm trying to think of other rites of passage.
	Oh, yeah.
	Knowing the dial-up sound is definitely a rite of passage.
	Like, not having super fast internet all the time.
	Just having to sit.
	Remember waiting for websites to load?
	Do you remember asking friends for rides?
	Oh!
	Wait, wait, Charlie.
	What about asking directions and having to know directions?
	I'm still really good at directions.
	Partially because you had to know where you were going.
	Like, this was before GPS. How about this?
	How about no one?
	Printing out MapQuest directions.
	Was that not the best?
	I used to be cheap, so I would just write it down.
	Charlie, were you around?
	I would go to MapQuest, and then I would write down the directions, and then I'd just bring my little note card with me.
	What were you saying, Blake?
	Charlie, you might be too young.
	I once had a journey where my parents made me actually narrate the turns to make on an actual physical map that we had purchased with the highways of America.
	Oh, no, no, no, all the time.
	100% yes.
	I remember I was living in New Jersey for two years when I was at Junior High and my mom printed them out on MapQuest and was going somewhere for my brother's football game and got so lost and turned around she like pulled over in a gas station crying because she didn't know where to go or how to go anywhere.
	She was like completely lost.
	Like, in any place.
	I had no idea.
	It makes you think, like, actually, is it a good thing or a bad thing we have the GPS? I mean, in some ways, like, we're probably more efficient.
	When China comes after us, that's the first thing they're going for.
	Oh, yeah.
	Number one.
	Day one.
	It's that one and, like, all of our online banking.
	America's done.
	It's crazy how it used to be.
	I don't know if you still have to do this, but I know in London, in the UK, to become a cab driver, you used to have to, maybe you still do, but you had to pass this test called the knowledge, and it was basically, you had to memorize the location of like 27,000 different things.
	In London.
	People would lose their minds attempting to pass this thing.
	Obviously, if it's still around, it's obviously just a gate.
	It's more difficult to become a cab driver in London than pass the bar.
	I feel like Uber could use a little bit of that.
	They've done brain scans of cab drivers that have mastered the knowledge, and their hippoclamus, which is the actual part of memory, is bigger in their brain than the average person.
	And so in order for that to be true, in order...
	And this is actually in...
	So that's self-selecting then?
	No, no, no.
	In order for that to be true, the one of two things are true.
	Either that these are people with disproportionately big hippoclampuses that are coming into the taxi business, or your brain can change.
	All three of you guys have giant hippocampuses.
	Sorry, hippocampus.
	Thank you.
	It's the thing that was indelible in Blasey Ford's brain.
	Remember?
	Indelible in the hippocampus?
	It is indelible in my hippocampus.
	It was the most profound development of neuroscience in the last 20 years.
	Discovery to show that your brain raw material can change based on your environment and your circumstances.
	Potentially.
	There is no other explanation.
	There's no way that people that have disproportionately active parts of the hippocampus all just want to become taxi drivers.
	Right.
	It's just that this is not a thing.
	Well, no, no.
	The idea would be then that those are the only ones who can pass the test.
	No, again, it's just, it defies logic because you're in the sub-one set of the standard deviation, right?
	These people, like, just happen to all want to become cab drivers?
	No.
	No way.
	Meaning that your brain can actually become better at a certain task when applied.
	So it's like a muscle that...
	Yeah, actually, let me find the study.
	It's super interesting.
	It was in Sean Astor's book called The Happiness Advantage.
	Let me see here.
	So the idea being then, the more you, you know, the more you work it out the same way, like, when you go to the gym and you're like, I'm going to focus on whatever muscle.
	This is it right here.
	A taxi driver's knowledge is often linked to a large hippocampus, blah, blah, blah.
	Key points, and the study here shows about brain plasticity.
	Phenomenon demonstrates the brain's ability to adapt and change based on the experience where the hippocampus can grow in response to intensive spatial learning.
	So let's put this on the flip side then.
	The fact that we're all using GPS now.
	It makes this dummer.
	It's literally and physically- Unless you do what I do, which is you try to anticipate where the GPS is taking you before.
	Because the GPS is like AI. It could be an enhancement to you, or it could just make you totally check out.
	Well, it's sometimes wrong.
	Well, the GPS is wrong all the time.
	Yeah, all the time.
	All the time when Mikey's driving, I'm like, why is it taking us this way, not that way?
	Yeah.
	That's a good sign.
	If you are fact-checking your GPS, you are getting actually- I did this when we were driving around Pennsylvania with my brother during the election, and we were driving from Penn State to Philadelphia, And at one point, it wanted us to go on this road, which would take us to Baltimore, and I was like, Why are we driving to Baltimore?
	It's 83 South.
	We need 76 East because we need to go to Philadelphia because we're going to the Eagles game.
	And now it eventually, like, picked up.
	But I remember sitting there looking at it, and it was just clearly wrong.
	It was clearly wrong.
	I put it in the chat, Scientific American.
	Okay, I got to dash.
	You guys keep talking.
	Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
	And you guys hold down the fort.
	Happy Thanksgiving, Charlie.
	Have a great Thanksgiving, Charlie.
	I see that now.
	I did not realize Charlie was such a Thanksgivophile.
	Charlie's missing out on the most important fact.
	He even put away his hatred of corn.
	We should do a Thanksgiving dinner for Charlie at AmFest.
	I completely agree, Charlie.
	We'll bring the corn.
	We'll put a turkey out.
	My favorite holiday is Thanksgiving.
	It's the most American holiday.
	Charlie's right about that.
	It's by far the most American holiday.
	It is.
	I think it tops the 4th of July.
	It's a good one.
	I do feel like American Christmas might be better because it so clearly makes Libs irate.
	And in particular, the fact that Libs...
	Throughout history have repeatedly attempted to kill Christmas.
	The more jerkish ones who won the Civil War in England, they tried to ban Christmas.
	Wait, Blake, but is it Christian to celebrate Christmas?
	It's not in the Bible.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's like weird.
	Right after Charlie leaves.
	Right after Charlie leaves.
	Libs throughout history have tried to kill Christmas repeatedly, and they can't.
	They did actually ban it.
	They did actually ban it in Massachusetts, I want to say.
	Yeah, and like they fail.
	Christmas always comes back because normal people love Christmas because Christmas is awesome.
	I'm not disagreeing or arguing with you at all.
	That's not my point I'm trying to bring up.
	But the one reason why I love Thanksgiving, and I think this is crazy, is For people who have multiple families, they have to go visit.
	So when you're married, you have to go see everybody's families and grandparents and cousins, all that stuff, and see everybody.
	For whatever reason, Christmas feels so much more stressful going and doing all that.
	And Thanksgiving, I mean, you have basically the same amount of stops.
	You have to arguably do even more work.
	I mean, I think Thanksgiving's a lot of work.
	Like, you have to, you know, especially for the moms and grandmas and everybody else that's making food.
	But it's just such a less stress-filled day.
	Christmas feels way more stressful.
	I think a lot of people feel stressed out by Christmas because they fret about giving their kids a perfect Christmas.
	I don't think anyone frets about giving their kid the perfect Thanksgiving.
	That's a huge stress for us.
	When it comes to Christmas, that's always definitely something where...
	Going from, like, receiving Christmas to being a parent when you are giving Christmas, along with Santa Claus, that, you know, as a parent, you really have to work with Santa, and there's a lot more that goes on as opposed to being a kid and you just sort of experience Christmas.
	That it is stressful.
	It's definitely stressful.
	And it's something that I've noticed.
	It's like one of the biggest differences of becoming, you know, becoming a parent or becoming a father is that you, you know, and obviously we're not doing a Christmas episode here, but yeah, it's in order of magnitude higher than that for Thanksgiving.
	And on Thanksgiving, you don't even have a say in helping you.
	I typed in the chat, I'm just surprised that Black Friday hasn't been cancelled.
	You talk about cancelling.
	Yeah.
	It's shocking.
	I think there were a few efforts...
	I want to say there were probably a few efforts.
	I saw it kind of bubble up more than a few times on...
	And by the way, you see this pretty often where they'll say, you know, why is it that a black hat in cowboy movies is associated with negative or Darth Vader's associated with negative something in a movie and so the black color is associated with being negative, whereas the, you know, the white collar is all white hat is a good person and white and black, etc.
	And so they'll try to do that, but it's just so ingrained in movies that there's not much you can do with it.
	Obviously, the new Wicked movie that's, you know, that's out right now, which looks horrible, is like totally, you know, totally a play on that as well with, you know, is the witch good or bad?
	But of course, they...
	Instead of that, they actually decided to racialize it as opposed to just leaving it how it is in the book and musical.
	So they added this whole other dimension to it.
	And you do see this come up with Black Friday every once in a while.
	Because they were just kind of going for broke there in 2020, Blake.
	They were just trying to go after, like, anything they could think of.
	Speaking of movies, there's like no Thanksgiving movies, really.
	Should there be more?
	Could there be more?
	Or do they just get eaten by food?
	Yeah, there totally should be more.
	Well, there's Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, I think is like the number one.
	There's that one.
	But other than that, there's just like, there's the Eli Roth horror movie that I haven't seen, and then there's some like really bad B-movies.
	I saw it last year.
	Thankskilling and Thankskilling 2, according to Wikipedia.
	Last of the Mohicans.
	Thankskilling 1 was terrible, but Thankskilling 2, actually, I feel like it rises above the subject material.
	Revitalize the franchise.
	They went in different directions that I didn't expect.
	What about Last of the Mohicans?
	Can we make that a...
	Is it Thanksgiving themed?
	No, but you'd think there'd be like a classic cartoon Thanksgiving movie that's got like...
	Well, you do.
	You know what I mean?
	There's the Charlie Brown one.
	That's like pretty OG as far as...
	Yeah, Charlie Brown is like all you got.
	But that's not even a movie.
	That's just like a special.
	I'm now looking.
	I'm looking now.
	I guess one thing about it is I think the Thanksgiving, the Macy's parade displaces where you might otherwise watch a Thanksgiving movie.
	And a football, of course.
	Also a reminder, there's a bunch of movies that are released on Thanksgiving, so people go watch the compilation of movies that are coming out.
	Like, I'm going with my family on Friday to see Moana 2, which we celebrate because Moana 1 came out in 2016 right after Trump 1. And yeah, I'm looking at the list of...
	Wikipedia doesn't have a list of Thanksgiving movies.
	They just have a list of movies set around Thanksgiving.
	So apparently, like Beethoven was a Thanksgiving movie.
	That was!
	I think it was on the cover.
	Doesn't Beethoven get the turkey?
	I haven't seen Beethoven in a long time.
	Paul Blart Malkop is a Thanksgiving movie?
	That is a scene.
	Yeah, because there's a...
	Well, no, because there's a...
	There's a Black Friday scene in it.
	Okay, alright.
	Brokeback Mountain is a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.
	Blake, what are you doing right now?
	This is a bad, bad decision, Blake.
	Wait, the blind side.
	There is that turkey movie.
	There is that Thanksgiving movie where someone tried to make a turkey movie a couple years ago.
	Freebirds, was it called?
	It was just so bad.
	It was not good.
	It's one of those low-grade...
	Blue Sky movies, I think, or whatever.
	They made a Friendsgiving comedy movie.
	Oh, Turkey Hollow.
	We watched Turkey Hollow a couple years ago and it was really weird.
	The Big Chill?
	Is that Thanksgiving?
	It's like the turkeys.
	The turkeys are like these, like, they live in the woods and they're like half, you know, fantastical creatures of some sort.
	Wait, that's a Jim Henson movie.
	Jim Henson's Turkey Hollow.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, it must be just his company, right?
	It's definitely not a Thanksgiving theme.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	We're missing the most obvious one that always shows on Thanksgiving.
	It's the Miracle on 34th Street.
	Is that a...
	Because it takes place around the parade.
	That's obviously a Christmas movie.
	Yeah, that's the thing about it.
	Thanksgiving is eaten by Christmas so much.
	Did you know Jingle Bells is a Thanksgiving song?
	Yeah, but go back to that.
	That's a traditional Thanksgiving movie.
	Jingle Bells is about traveling to visit someone on Thanksgiving, and they've just made it a Christmas song.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, but apparently it is a Thanksgiving song.
	Where were they living?
	They needed a sleigh for Thanksgiving.
	I don't know.
	Probably the same place where the hotel people are still called chambermaids.
	Canada?
	Yeah.
	That's harsh.
	Didn't Charlie say chambermaid on that one?
	Yeah, that's the point.
	Exactly.
	A while ago.
	You've Got Mail is a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.
	What?
	Some of these are just bizarre.
	Just because a movie has a scene in it which takes place in a certain, you know, there's like a turkey scene or whatever, that doesn't make it a movie about that.
	Unless the movie is 100% dedicated to the holiday, then it is not a movie that belongs to that holiday.
	Well, that's like the debate over whether Die Hard is a Christmas movie.
	Daily Wire needs to make a Christmas movie.
	It is not.
	It is not.
	I agree on that one.
	We need Daily Wire to make a Thanksgiving movie, apparently.
	Oh, dear.
	What is a turkey?
	Daily Wire, yeah.
	What is a turkey?
	Daily Wire investigation?
	Ben Shapiro's Thanksgiving.
	Yeah?
	He's like, it's like Ben's in the kitchen.
	He's so good.
	Well, he's like going through like the perfect cranberry mix.
	Is it a lot?
	Oh man, this is like...
	Oh wait, we forgot to do...
	We should have done one thing with Charlie to end it all out.
	So we'll have to...
	I would go so far as to say I'd love to find a way to like edit this in if we could because we should all go around and say one thing we're thankful for.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Other than winning.
	Other than winning.
	We can't say that.
	It has to be like a personal thing.
	Because that's what we do with my family.
	Blake, you can start.
	No, you're putting the pressure on me.
	So I'll start.
	Okay, I'll start.
	So actually, my brother Braxton just had his third child.
	There you go.
	Two days ago.
	So Braxton just had his third child, which we're really excited about.
	All was great, and baby came out great.
	We were worried because I went with my brother to the ASU game on Saturday, and my sister-in-law was a week overdue.
	So he really shouldn't have been maybe doing that.
	But ASU won.
	She got induced on Sunday.
	And then they named the baby Tate.
	And then they used my middle name, Storm.
	So his name is Tate Storm Boyer, which is my name is Tyler Storm Boyer.
	So they named the baby kind of middle name.
	I don't know if it's after me, but it's in the same name.
	So very grateful for babies.
	I have a...
	If I wanted to be serious, I can say it, but it's...
	I don't want to give away exactly where I live, but there's this...
	I'll just say there's this Christmas tradition that has been going on for just years, and last year it got canceled because there was a financial issue, And it basically people just kind of rallied and the whole community came together and was like, no, and it was a kids thing and it was like, we're, you know, we're totally going to save this and it's going to come back next year and it's going to be amazing.
	And we totally did and I threw a bunch of money in and it's back and it just started and the kids love it and it's amazing.
	So I'm just really happy for that.
	Really thankful that that worked out.
	Because we thought we were gonna lose this thing and I couldn't even tell you what it is.
	It's just it's just a thing the kids do every every year and they can go to and it came back and it was awesome and it is awesome and it will continue to be awesome for a long time it's gonna be bigger now I think than ever because you know closing down and it's sort of like you know a local landmark and there was a you know just like this this stupid Good thing that happened last year.
	And it was cool to see people do that.
	And it's just great because I can see that with my kids and then I can take them to see it as well and see that tradition keep going.
	I love that.
	And also, of course, for Saquon Barkley.
	So I'm very, very thankful for Saquon Barkley and the Eagles.
	Oh, yeah.
	I am thankful that tomorrow, as of when we're recording this, I forgot what day it was, that the Neff family, my parents, my brother, my two sisters, their spouses, their children, will assemble for Thanksgiving.
	There will be, trying to do the math in my head, but quite a few number of people, and there will be no libs.
	No libs and no steak.
	And no steak.
	So it will be all proper forms will be observed.
	You won't have a single lib in your house?
	No libs.
	Wow.
	Same here.
	The Neff family is a blessing.
	Even I have a few libs in my house.
	Yeah, exactly.
	See, we...
	I'm very grateful.
	I'll say this.
	How big is the gathering of people?
	Like I said, it's pretty...
	I mean, even...
	I mean, in the past, we would have had more satellite branches of the family.
	But even if we added those in, it would still be the case.
	But...
	Wow.
	Maybe, like, one shaky person who, like, voted for Obama in a moment of weakness or something.
	But...
	Like, definitely with the core ones.
	Like, my parents lucked out.
	They had four kids and none of them, like, went to college and were suddenly like, eh, I realized.
	All my immediate family is super conservative.
	There's some questionable extended family.
	But, like, all the marriages are good.
	The kids are good so far, although the oldest is like, the oldest grandbaby is like four, so I guess, you know, no lib tendencies.
	I would, we haven't really talked about this, but you know, the whole like libs and conservatives getting here for Thanksgiving, I'm for it, I'm all for it.
	There are several Liberal members of the extended Pozo family and on other people's sides who basically just won't come to Thanksgiving anymore, and it's sad, and I think it sucks.
	Wait, because of you?
	um no no no it's it's just because they refuse to be around trump supporters they just will not you know sit down and break bread with someone who could support that man and it's it's horrible you know i mean and i think it's just really sad that um that they would do that and it's you know but at the same time it's like you know if they ever wanted to come back there's no um No hard feelings.
	I mean, we just would love to get the family back together again.
	It's not even something we're mad about.
	I just think it'd be really cool for my kids to be able to see that side of the family.
	Really great.
	So, open invitation.
	Not that you're watching ThoughtCrime, but it's always open.
	100% always open.
	I think.
	Oh, and with that, since we are right at the very tail end here, of course, we're also thankful for the ThoughtCrime audience and for everything that you guys have done throughout the year, year plus that we've done the show.
	Hey, we won.
	That was pretty cool.
	Make sure, by the way, I know we haven't said it, go get your AmericaFest tickets, your AmFest tickets, Amfest.com.
	Definitely want to use promo code POSO. Get in early on that because they're going to go super fast.
	It's going to be an incredible, incredible event.

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