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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
Christ is here.
Got the breeze blowing through my hair, ain't got no worries so far.
But I got a hankering, yearning deep inside.
For this book called Unhumans, I just can't hide.
It tells a story of secrets and a mystery.
history The hidden tales of the Communist history.
I want to know the truth, what really went down.
So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
Pre-ordering lives, U.S. Can't wait to get my hands on that book.
Gonna dive into his pages.
Take a closer look From the Russian Revolution To the pretty rich damn It's supposed to take me there I swear All right, Jack Posobiec live.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Yes, today is Thanksgiving and as you recall, that was the Unhumans theme song because today is an Unhumans Thanksgiving special with Jack and Joshua.
Joshua Lysak, co-author of Unhumans and Bulletproof, joins us.
Joshua, how are you?
Happy Thanksgiving, Jack.
It's good to be here again.
Thank you.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Incredible.
And so, we have so much to be thankful for.
We've been blessed so much with an abundance of joy and abundance of riches this year.
And yet, and yet, the unhumans Are still with us, aren't they?
They're still all around us.
They're still plying away and attempting to subvert all of the goodness that they see around them.
And so today, I thought something that could be a little bit of fun as people get ready for their Thanksgiving meal, and maybe they are watching this while they're preparing.
Maybe if you eat early, you're sitting down already.
Maybe we could talk a little bit about what Thanksgiving with the unhumans is all life.
That's right.
Prior to, during, and after the immediate election season, we've seen a remarkable increase in unhuman activity.
And the uptick was when Donald J. Trump survived the Attempted assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13th at 6 11 p.m.
And we saw 30% of registered Democrats say they wish he had in fact been shot.
And then of course we saw an increase in dread that the second attempt failed there at West Palm Beach.
We've seen people cut off family members, beloved family members, over no good reason whatsoever related to the election.
We've seen an increase in accusations, in violent rhetoric targeting Trump supporters and Trump voters.
And given that Team Kamala and Team Unhumanity, as we like to call them, have lost, they are unhappy.
And their bitterness has increased, as has the hysteria.
And so the unhumaning that the far left has tended to do over the last quarter millennia, in which they deprive good, normal, innocent people of rights to property, rights to liberty, and rights to life, They are rather unhappy.
They are no longer in a position where they're able to do that through the executive branch.
And so they're going to go kicking and screaming into any tactic they can, and that is unhumaning you.
If you are a family member, if you are a friend, if you are close to them, and that means that they are going to deprive you A human being in whatever way they can, and one of those may be to cut you off and blame you for everything and take extreme measures.
Yeah, I know we've got about a minute now until the break, but as we go through this, I want to Help people.
And I want to help people who may be dealing with some of these subversives in their household, one of these subversives at the table.
We should provide people with some tips and some strategies for having Thanksgiving with the unhumans.
And so Jack and Joshua are here to help you navigate this thorny landscape.
We were victorious this year, but we should be Magnanimous in our victory.
We should offer those who lost a seat at the table.
We certainly should.
But, but, we must remember something.
Never, ever accept their frame.
Never accept their frame.
It's as simple as that.
We'll explain what that means and more when we're back.
It is the Unhumans Thanksgiving special here on Human Events Daily.
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It is the Unhumans Thanksgiving special here on Human Events Daily with Jack and Joshua.
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slnt.com Alright, so, by the way, Joshua, I was talking about earlier there, so we have the, okay, we have the Unhumans Turkey.
What other, you know, what other, so for the CCP, what should it be for the CCP? Well, the CCP will probably, I hate to say it, CCP, what did we learn in the Chinese Cultural Revolution?
That is where in Guangzhou Province and Guizhou Province, they delved into a little bit of cannibalism.
So, the cannibal cranberries.
Yes, it's the cannibal cranberry sauce from the CCP. I'm so sorry.
What are the ones you think of?
What are we getting from Spain?
Well, it's certainly not vegetarian friendly.
We could put it that way.
But I guess in Spain, I guess you could say it's the unhuman gazpacho.
Certainly, if we have your unhuman stroganoff, if it's out of Russia, but that would be a little bit for Thanksgiving.
We have the Bolshevik beats and the Bolshevik beats.
Eat your beats.
You'll be very strong communist.
Eat your beats.
What is Uncle Franco bringing?
What about Uncle Frank?
What is Uncle Frank bringing for dinner?
He brings a side dish of reciprocity.
Oh, yes.
Reciprocity desserts.
And by the way, by the way, Uncle Frank brings just desserts.
He always brings just desserts.
Indeed.
Oh man, they hate when we talk about this.
But we want to go through...
Oh wait, we've got to do the pumpkin pie.
I'm thinking the pumpkin pie.
And of course...
Pinochet's pumpkin.
Pinochet's pumpkin.
But what about France?
Because we know France is famous for their desserts.
Right?
What about the French?
So the guillotine souffle?
That's an idea, but then you have the idea that it's going to be best served cold.
Oh, there you go.
And of course, Napoleon's pork skewers.
Because what does Napoleon do?
We know he's going to skewer it.
So yes, Napoleon Bonaparte will be coming by later.
Oh, Uncle Nap with his pork skewers.
We could do this all day.
We didn't plan this, folks.
Obviously, that's why the puns are so incredibly bad, but that's all right.
But something that's even worse...
See, by the way, we're having a good time.
We're fun.
We are not some sitting there like we're going to go crazy.
I love reading the descriptions that have come out after us.
And actually, Joshua, we should take a second because I don't know if we've ever actually just said thank you to everyone, and I'd like to do that.
Thank you for the success of Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them.
When Joshua and I put together this book, it seemed crazy.
I had people telling me that it would never work.
I had publishers who shall remain nameless telling me that we'd never get it out in time and we wouldn't sell it.
And who would want to buy such a book about communist revolutions that nobody even talks about anymore?
And not only did it go to New York Times bestseller, number one publisher weekly bestseller, USA Today bestseller all over Amazon.
It's just taken on a life of its own.
And I see people quoting it everywhere.
I see people citing it all the time.
This is what they do has become just a total catchphrase all over the Internet.
And so, you know, just just thank you, really, from from the bottom of my heart.
Thank you for for supporting this work and for taking it to levels far beyond whatever what we ever dream.
I mean, Joshua, could you have ever imagined, when we first started talking about this, that it would be as successful as it was?
I did not anticipate this, no, because when we began, the anticipation was, this is a historical nonfiction book about communist revolutions over the past 250 years.
And so that has a niche market.
Now, it's relevant to both of our audiences, certainly, but in the context of a presidential election year, all the culture war issues that are going on, it doesn't seem obvious that it would fit.
But when we were doing the research, we found something interesting, didn't we, Jack, that tied it all together and made it the most consequential book of the year, didn't we?
I mean, and that's what it was.
And it really has been...
It feels weird saying it, right?
It feels a little weird saying it, but yeah, it really was the most consequential conservative or...
It's not even conservative, but just a book about what it is that we're all living through.
And I think there's something, I mean, you can't take it out of the context of the Trump movement, the fact that, of course, J.D. Vance, who is now the vice president-elect, was one of the blurbs on the back of it, which, by the way, they went after him like crazy for, and happy to report that J.D. never once gave it a second of thought.
And, in fact, I received no message from his team whatsoever about ever, you know, saying, hey, can you guys, you know, Take my name off there.
There was nothing like that.
There was nothing like that at all.
Why?
Because they understood what we were talking about.
They didn't accept the frame.
We'll get into that in a little bit.
But, you know, just really caught the zeitgeist at, I think, the perfect time where, and we saw this reflected in the election results, that people were just kind of sick.
People were sick of it.
They'd had enough.
And Joshua, I know you and I are both affectionate devotees of the morning sip with a simultaneous sip with Scott Adams.
And he always talks about, you know, you know, people have said too far, too far.
It's all gone too far.
It's all gone too far.
And, you know, you and I putting out this book and actually the one Word that I heard so much in response when people read the book that I hadn't expected, that was surprising to me, was they said it's scary.
And they said it's scary.
I said, really, it's scary.
Because to me, it's, you know, I don't know.
I don't get emotional about this stuff, really.
It's just that other than anger.
But I don't think of it as scary.
I just think this is what's going to happen.
This is what's going to happen.
And I think, though, That the reason it became scary for people was because they could turn on their TV news.
They could open up a newspaper and see things that were eerily similar to that which we were writing about.
Exactly, yes.
That's why likely the book took off is because in doing the research, we found that there is a template for Far-left subversion of a society.
It's been used for more than 250 years in country after country.
France, China, Russia, Spain, Central and South America, Africa, Southern Africa, even as recently as South Africa in the 1990s.
And of course, here in the United States, where the economic doctrine associated And that's what I'm going to
And that provided an entirely new urgency to the presidential election.
And we had and we heard lines directly from the book being quoted on the campaign trail.
We seriously did.
We seriously did.
You remember Trump or communism?
Yeah, Trump or communism.
And I'm telling you, I had people in like Scranton, Pennsylvania, Lackawanna, PA, Greeley, PA, up in the north, past the Poconos, come up to me and they said, yeah, we need to come out and vote for Trump or we're going to be...
And not just comments, they said they would say Marxist.
They would use the word, we are going to go Marxist.
And of course, President Trump himself started using the phrase over and over that we are going Marxist.
And I think that What we did with this book was shift the conversation so far, right?
Shift the window so far that we could actually open up discussion about what was really going on in the country because we made the case.
We simply made the case that we've seen this before.
All of this has happened before and all of this can happen again.
Stay tuned.
It's Jack and Joshua's Thanksgiving with the Unhumans.
When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, Jack Posobiec here back live.
This is the UnHumans Thanksgiving special.
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So, I want to play this clip now from Joy Ann Weave on, I guess this was on her TikTok or some such thing the other day, talking about Thanksgiving with Trump supporting relatives.
Let's play that, folks.
People are rightfully alarmed.
They have a reason to be alarmed.
And if you would vote for that, People may not feel so confident that they're safe with you.
This is not crazy.
This is legitimate feelings of fear of you and a feeling that you might not be someone they could trust if this thing goes way south.
Autocracies go south.
Real fast and things get ugly and people get asked to do things and turn people in and point people out and turn on them.
And if you're voting affirmatively, gleefully for this, People might, I don't know, may not feel so confident in you anymore.
That's real and you kind of have to live with it.
So if you think that you can vote for what people see as their destruction and then demand that they still are cool with you and kiki with you and have Thanksgiving with you, I think you're kind of missing the point of what people are upset about.
They're afraid.
And autocracy and fascism are things that are legitimate to be afraid of.
So, you may want to step back.
I just really want to step back.
Just autocracy.
Handmaid's tail.
I mean, this is just weird.
Well, that being said, though, is it weird or is it exactly what you would expect?
Joshua, can we apply the unhumans filter to everything Joy and Weave just said there?
Yes.
Taking it all as literal declarations, everything that she said would happen, happened after Biden-Harris were elected.
Where people were turning on family members and reporting one another and betraying, and there were secret lists, so on and so forth.
There have been political prisoners over the past four years.
Everything that is the Unhumans playbook, they accuse normal, everyday, center, center-right, conservative people of doing and then calling it right-wing extremism.
And one of the Reasons they do this, they project and accuse.
Of course, it's right out of the Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, where if you accuse other people of doing what it is that you're doing, then they are stuck defending themselves, so all the attention is on them, and then having to prove, no, no, no, I'm really not an extremist.
Look at all of my liberal positions.
Look at all of the liberal values I hold.
Please stop accusing me.
That's the expectation.
So if you pull a J.D. Vance and just don't play that game, shrug it off, no comment.
or what I've been doing with my social circle of liberals online, when they post three novel-length comments to my Facebook wall, I simply reply, betterhelp.com.
By the way, you're still on Facebook.
You mean for like your professional business page, right?
You don't mean like you personally use Facebook, do you?
Only on occasion, yes.
And it's only because I use it for so many years.
Oh, that's a yes.
That's a yes, folks.
That's a yes.
That's right.
You know, that's okay.
Tanya still uses it, to be honest.
She uses it because she keeps in touch with people back home and stuff like that.
I just, I don't know, man.
I haven't used it.
But yeah, you're right.
Facebook is one of the places where people will go.
And so, Joshua, what is it then?
And we have to get into this.
So let's say you encounter someone who...
Alright, let's say they've decided to not go the full, you know, I'm just gonna say it.
It's cult-like.
It is cult-like behavior to do this.
To cut off people and say, we can only be with those who share our ideology.
We can only commune with those.
We can only meet with those.
Break bread.
By the way, the...
I'm gonna drop something here.
I'm gonna drop something here right now.
You ready for this?
Oh, yeah.
The...
The central, central core of Christianity is to break bread.
To break bread.
The breaking of bread is central to the Mass.
In fact, it is the bread of the Last Supper, which then becomes the Eucharist.
This is the central core of every Mass.
When Christ breaks bread, that means to commune, to be with His people.
And in fact, in colloquial In phraseology, we use the term breaking bread to actually mean sitting down with people that we don't always agree with.
That's the literal meaning or, you know, at least the implication of that phrase.
Oh, we're going to break bread.
Hey, we're going to break bread.
Yeah, we've been, you know, there's been a bunch of people that, you know, I'm probably going to have to break bread with after this year.
But I'll do so.
I will absolutely do so.
And so that's Christian.
But the Communist does not want the breaking of bread.
The Communist wants the opposite.
The Communist does not want to find common ground.
And Communism, which, by the way, and I'll just say this as well, I spoke with Father Ripperger about this when he came down to Mar-a-Lago.
We had a beautiful Latin Mass, and he did just an incredible blessing to myself and Tanya Tay, a personal blessing for us, which was just fedtastic.
And he was giving a little talk afterwards, and I'm not going to get into everything he said because it was private, but one thing that he mentioned was, which I think is germane for what we're talking about, he said, if the devil himself were to design a political ideology, it would be communism.
Wow.
So, Joshua, let's go through this then.
Let's say, okay, that's them.
That's them.
That's one side.
Put a pause in that.
We promised people we would do this.
Let's say that you do, though.
You encounter someone who says, I want to convert you.
I want you to walk away from your Trump support.
Or, I want you to see the error of your ways.
You people, we understand.
You're upset because, oh, whites are becoming a minority.
Or you're upset because trans are out of the bathroom now and into the other bathroom.
And you're upset because there's so much acceptance and so much...
That's all this is.
It's just a response to all the progress and all the changes.
But you'll eventually get with the program.
What are some tips that people can use to interact with these people?
And I'm not going to say you're going to turn them into a Trump supporter, but just in general, what can we do?
Yes, besides ghostwriting and writing books, scaring avowed socialists into hiding with some of the books that I do, I also have a background in professional hypnosis.
So I'm going to use the hypnosis filter onto this.
When you look at the mental and social environment of the leftist liberals and even your garden variety Democrats, their world has enforced rules, morals, and social shaming is part of that, to enforce that.
This sort of internally An externally enforced system of shame where you can't say these things unless you're willing to be ostracized.
Cancel culture is a uniquely left-wing phenomenon and so if we want to think about changing people's minds at least going from antagonizing us over a turkey leg Going from negative to neutral, we have to think about what allows the liberal to shame-free change their mind.
And that is not throwing in lots of evidence and facts, data.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
And on humans, we say, no, feelings don't care about your facts.
The feelings of the left do not care about the facts of the right.
So if you come out and say, well, almost two-thirds of Native Americans voted for Donald Trump.
That it's like speaking a different language.
They're just going to interpret what you said as, oh, so Trump hates Indians?
Is that what you just said?
What?
What?
How did you get the opposite of what I said?
Right?
So facts are useless because they will take it and twist it into the exact opposite.
So here's what you can do.
You can do what's called pacing and leading.
Comes directly from hypnosis in practice, working with clients privately.
And what you do is you radically agree And maximally agree with what it is that they said that you believe, that you can agree with.
So, for example, let's say they come out with some bomb about Trump or one of his affiliates or nominees.
Maybe it's RFK Jr. And they say something about RFK Jr. that is frankly a horrific insult, even a lie.
And you can say, yeah, a lot of people think that about RFK Jr. A lot of people feel that way about him and Nicole Shanahan and the Make America Healthy Again movement.
A lot of people feel that way.
And then that will allow them to feel comfortable sharing their feelings.
Do this enough times, and it's not probably going to be over Thanksgiving dinner, but this will diffuse the intensity.
Somebody agreeing with the feeling, yeah, a lot of people feel that Yeah.
And just do that continually.
It might take months.
It might even take years.
But if that's your stance of being magnanimous with friends, family, and relatives.
And we should be.
We should be.
Be magnanimous.
Be that way.
Hold that thought.
Quick break.
Right back.
the Thanksgiving Unhuman Special continues.
Jack, when is Jack?
Where is Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
Alright, Jack Posobiec back.
Here we are.
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The Unhumans Thanksgiving Special with Jack and Joshua.
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You were in the middle of telling us all about, so you walked through and unpacked the psychology of a leftist and the fact that they actually tend to get more triggered when they are faced with someone who's being polite and happy and and fun you know maybe by the way you could even prepare a little one of everyone should do this by the way for leftists out there say look I'm very sorry that you lost and I'm very sorry that
you're not going to be living under communism but we're gonna do something for you so I want to give you a little taste of what it would be like if communism had won and just hand them an empty bowl and say there you go there you go you can taste exactly what it been like To live in Chairman Mao's China with Mao's Iron Rice Bowl of absolutely nothing.
Okay, no, no, that's probably not going to work, Joshua, is it?
No, no, it certainly wouldn't.
You know, we like to joke that your typical liberal here in America, they're NPR Americans, meaning they listen to national public radio, NPR, which of course takes federal money, despite their insistence that they don't.
And they believe what's on the radio.
And so people who believe whatever they're told by their mainstream media news sources, they do in fact believe that very bad, very scary, very unsafe people are calling all the shots now and that we are teetering into a totalitarian dictatorship and there's nothing they can do about it.
So imagine that almost childish understanding of reality that that worldview possesses, the filter of reality that that worldview is.
Now imagine you have this image, very scary, very bad people.
Now imagine you over Thanksgiving, over the Thanksgiving meal or any other time, Really, you come along and imagine you have all these facts and studies and data and statistics and department this and Elon Musk this and Vivek Ramaswamy that and Hegseth and Vance and you go through all of these different characters.
I understand the vibe of that.
The vibe is the very bad, very scary people have all the facts on their side.
What just happened?
Their anxiety goes up.
Their resistance to you goes up.
All persuasion is self-persuasion.
Persuasion cannot happen in a state of defensiveness.
The more facts you bring, the scarier you become, the higher the wall between you and them gets.
That's why we recommend agreeing with their emotional state.
Yeah, a lot of people are afraid of Donald Trump.
Yeah, a lot of people feel like Hegg says this, Vance this, Vivek that, Elon this.
A lot of people really feel that way.
You're right.
Yeah.
And what can happen Over time, Jack, I'm sure over time you've seen how people can soften it up, warm up, and of their own volition, go from TDS, Trump derangement syndrome, to, you know, did you see this?
I just saw this amazing thing that this guy did.
Trump, wow, I guess that's cool.
And they won't come out and say, I was wrong, because, again, in the social shaming frame, they can't admit to being wrong emotionally, but they have to, almost like a cat, Think of, and I believe this is why, metaphorically, liberals tend to be like the cat ladies, right?
It's because they almost have the countenance of a cat where it comes around when it feels safe.
Allow them to come around to you.
I think that's all we're asking for, right, Jack?
Yeah, I mean, it's simple, right?
And so you have this ability to kind of sit there and say, look, it's like, I know we're not going to...
Because you have to understand, all right, for a lot of these people, especially millennials, but also a lot of Gen Xers, Gen Xers had the biggest swing, but there's a lot of Gen Xers that have not swung.
And...
They thought for the last 15 years that Barack Obama was the coolest person in the world, that they were the smart ones, that they were the cool ones, that they were the best and the brightest.
Of course I'm the best.
Of course I'm the most educated.
Of course I'm the most informed.
I read the New York Times cover to cover every day and I only listen to NPR when I'm in my car.
And to them, that's what being well-informed is.
What they don't realize is, of course, that they are living in a bubble.
They were the ones in the echo chamber, and those people just found out.
They just found out that they're not the majority anymore.
That they are, in fact, the minority.
And so, you'll get...
There's that book, When Prophecy Fails, that describes a lot of what they're going through right now.
And, you know, it's sort of like...
Now, typically, with Joy Reid, you'll get doubling down.
And so that's what you saw from her.
She's doubling down.
She's saying, just shun them.
They're wrong.
Rachel Maddow says, you have marching orders.
What did Rachel Maddow say?
You have marching orders from the universe.
You must resist.
Just over and over and over.
This is what we must do in our time.
And she's, you know, playing it out like she's some sort of, you know, I don't know.
Resistance.
Like she's in the Polish resistance in World War II or something.
Please.
Please.
By the way, you'd be the one.
All right.
I'm not going to go there.
I'm not going to go there.
But we saw how people acted during COVID. That's all I'm going to say.
All right?
We saw how people acted during COVID. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
But Joshua, no.
I think what it is with these people, you've got to find...
You've got to find an endpoint.
You can talk around it.
You could say, oh, I didn't expect this to happen, or yeah, things went really well for us.
And honestly, I've seen a lot of them, I will say this, I've seen a lot of them look at inflation and say, you know what?
Inflation was really bad, and that really did hurt people.
And I think that's something where, I don't know, Joshua, have you seen that?
Yes.
Yes, I have.
And so do you think that there's a way, by talking about inflation, that there's a way to kind of explain to people that, you know, or at least get them to open up about, hey, maybe this is why some of these other issues didn't matter so much?
Ironically, no, I don't think so, because I tested that once to see if it would work.
You know what the response was, Jack?
What was the response?
What was the response?
Well, CNN says that inflation has never been lower.
Oh, come on!
Oh, man.
Wait, was that before or after the election?
Was that before or after?
After.
Oh!
Yes, without irony and not as a joke.
Now, I think that, to plug our second book, Bulletproof, a little bit, I think a more...
The most reasonable way to bring the person into a state of suggestibility to you is to talk about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
And with a question like, can you imagine how his wife Melania must have felt when she saw that?
Because we know from, we're liberals, liberals are focused on safety, security, almost like maternal instinct, unfortunately.
Yeah, just the fact that the story makes no sense.
The fact that the story makes no sense doesn't add up at all.
And it's like, look, we can all agree on this.
JFK, the story doesn't make any sense.
Trump and Butler, the story makes no sense whatsoever.
These are great and perfect examples of ways to just, you know, you talk about the elephant in the room, but you don't argue about it.
We can do this.
you can do this. - Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great.
Amen.
Well, that was the perfect bumper for the segment here because we were just going to talk about a subject that could be used to start a conversation about Trump that isn't necessarily one that's going to hopefully lead to some crazed debate, And that's these swirling questions about not one, but two assassination attempts that took place on Donald Trump throughout the course of this election.
One of which in Butler, Pennsylvania, July 13th.
Another one September 15th in West Palm Beach.
The individual, by the way, goes on trial in February.
That was pushed back.
It was initially supposed to be starting last week, I believe.
And they did push that back because...
And Joshua, you and I haven't even chatted about this yet because I've been running around doing the Game of Thrones stuff down at Mar-a-Lago, but I did actually get a data dump on Ryan Wesley Ralph while I was down there that...
One of the reasons that they have had to push back the court date is because there is so much information on this guy, and not only information on him, but information on what he was up to in Ukraine.
Remember, the CIA had that file that was on him that they passed over to DHS right before he came back into the country, into Honolulu.
And of course, DHS let him pass anyway without actually digging into it.
So what's in the file?
What's in the file?
And by the way, I fully expect that whatever really, really dark stuff was in there is going to be completely shredded by the time Trump and his administration and his cabinet and Tulsi Gabbard and everyone else.
Get up there in the administration.
But still, this guy's got some really shady context.
So Joshua, just kind of an open-ended question.
Are there ways for people to go?
And of course, everyone's going to have to get themselves a copy of Bulletproof.
By the way, the audiobook for Bulletproof is completed.
It is in post-production, and it will be available very, very soon.
We're shooting to have it available by Christmas, or certainly prior to Christmas.
And so, Joshua, how can people use the strange questions about the Trump assassination attempts to maybe open up a conversation with liberals?
Yes, so Bulletproof, the book, is written like a whodunit mystery, but of course it's entirely nonfiction, and everybody loves a good mystery.
That is what That's a part of it that is apolitical.
And the fact that the story doesn't seem to make sense, how could this guy have gotten that close?
So just like you said, Jack, it's not about Trump.
It's about the story about Trump.
So it is disassociated from the negative feelings about Trump personally, and it's reassociating with a parallel story.
All the mysteries behind it.
So knowing that so many of the liberals that are going to be in your lives, those of you watching right now, they are afraid.
They're terrified.
Many of them are petrified.
He's going to take all your rights away is what the frame is that has been presented to them.
And so to talk about Trump directly and throw fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, Ah, big scary Trump supporter has all the facts on their side.
That's even worse.
Wall go up.
Defensiveness gets stronger, right?
We want to instead disassociate it from those triggers to talk directly about the mystery of this.
How could that guy have gotten so close?
And if you know some of the details, you can speak to that.
Now, there's a tip that we can repurpose from my fellow hypnotist, Scott Adams of the simultaneous sip fame every day.
What he suggests that you, a line that you use with your liberal family members this Thanksgiving, and those of you who are on the East Coast, you still got a couple hours to the big Thanksgiving dinner, make sure you use this one.
It is, have you heard the counter argument?
Well, have you heard the counter to that?
Rather than just saying, for example, they'll say, well, Thomas Matthew Crook's the Butler shooter.
He was a registered Republican.
So, obviously, if his own team, his own side hates him that much, well, that just tells me everything I need to know.
This is what they're going to say, right?
So instead of saying, actually, no, and then you get defensive.
That's not true.
Instead, you can say, have you heard the counter to that?
Which is inviting curiosity.
It's genius.
This is absolute genius.
And then because these NPR Americans think they're all that, they're smart, they're educated, they're over-credentialed, of course, and they have some of the biggest pride you'll ever witness in your entire life, they will be, no, what's the counter?
Because they need to know.
Because if you're more informed than they are, well, then you're higher status.
It's a perpetual status game the NPR Americans are playing.
And so it is an invitation to have a conversation.
And you can say, well, Thomas Matthew Crooks Was a donor for Act Blue.
I'm a donor for Act Blue!
Because the likelihood that they will, in fact, be donors for Act Blue is surprisingly high.
Well, wait a second.
And then now you've got them off guard a little bit.
Or what do you call it?
The Smurfs and Mules for Act Blue.
But we can talk about that some other time.
Oh yes, all the shenanigans associated with that.
Yeah, the James O'Keefe has been digging into that.
Yes, yes.
And so facts about the case, about how suspicious it is, it allows you to disassociate from their negative emotions around it and let them run wild.
And then you will use the same tip that we had earlier in this show, which was anything that they say that is just bonkers or frankly insulting, Again, give maximum emotional agreement and validation for the feeling.
Yeah, a lot of people feel like the rhetoric has gone out of control.
A lot of people feel like the rhetoric is causing real violence in this country.
Yeah, isn't that terrible?
I mean, look, they shot Trump over it.
Maybe multiple times.
What do you mean they?
Who are they?
And then in the book, we equip you early on in Bulletproof, we equip you with quote after quote after quote of Democrat leaders and celebrities wishing death upon Donald J. Trump.
Wishing death.
Look, look, this is the book.
This book is the perfect compendium to go down the rabbit hole of the whodunit of answering those questions and asking more questions, presenting information that people don't even realize.
Look, just in our final minute here, I want to say to everybody out there, I hope you have a great Thanksgiving.
And just from a personal perspective, I hope that people who Give thanks for the opportunity to emotionally validate your NPR American family so that you can de-escalate and eventually persuade them to wear
