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We've been investigating the committee itself.
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We think it violated House rules and so we'll be The Supreme Court said the White House and federal agencies, such as the FBI, may continue to urge social media platforms to take down content the government views as misinformation.
This is viewed as a victory for the Biden administration, a technical if not an important one.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
Today is June 26, 2024.
I know many of us down the street from where I sit right now, the Supreme Court issued a huge ruling on the First Amendment regarding social media censorship and specifically the social media censorship that we saw in COVID.
Jay Bhattacharya is out there right now from, you know, Dr. Bhattacharya from Stanford saying, the Supreme Court majority in Murthy v. Missouri did not understand the nature of our case.
We want the government to stop coercing social media companies to censor.
We don't want to interfere with the right of social media to moderate content.
That's what the government is doing.
And so you have this decision written by Amy Coney Barrett, who was a Trump appointee, where I have to say what it seems like they're doing is a classic, absolute classic punt.
And this is something that wasn't something that Amy Coney Barrett was known for, but you know who is known for it?
John Roberts.
And if you look at the Roberts court decisions going all the way back to Obamacare and everything during that era, this is what he loves to do.
He loves to punt on the issue.
If you want to read a great dissent, go read what Alito wrote, disagreeing with the majority decision.
But Amy Coney Barrett, she said that the people who were censored didn't have direct information that the censorship came at the behest of government.
That being said, we've got plenty of documents, we've got plenty of investigations, we've got text messages, we've got emails, we've got all sorts and in the case you could see very clearly that the government was calling for this form of censorship.
They said, well you didn't prove your case and therefore we're not going to rule one or the Punch on the issue and Alito comes back responding that look, what you're doing here is obviously allowing a gross violation of the First Amendment to go on.
We know the government is trying to censor people of their opinions on COVID.
The same way that they censored on the laptop story, the same way they censored on other things in the 2020 election.
And by the way, guess what?
This isn't happening in some vacuum.
This isn't happening in some abstract legal debate.
We're in an election right now, which is just a few months away.
And that means the government, which currently has control of the administrative state that they currently do, And they're also running on the ballot, can censor you today using the same power that they did during COVID.
That's the real problem here and that's a huge problem with this.
That being said, there's two more decisions that we're waiting out for.
Might have to wait until Friday.
One on presidential immunity for President Trump.
One on obstruction for the J6ers.
me is it's a possibility that this could have been a trade-off by the liberals and the swing voters that amy coney barrett roberts and kavanaugh now have become to say we are going to side with the liberals on social media but perhaps side with the conservatives on immunity and maybe obstruction although that case is a little bit harder to tell Folks, stay tuned.
We've got a very special guest in studio here, London Roberts, her new book, which I want and implore everyone to get a purchase of.
She's going to join us right back after the segment.
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Talk about influences.
These are influences.
And they're friends of mine.
Jack.
Where's Jack?
Jack?
He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live, Washington, D.C.
And as I promised just now, a very special guest on Human Events, London Roberts, the author of the new book, Out of Shadows, joins us here in studio.
London, people have heard one version of your story.
People have heard one version of your background.
But now you have the ability to tell your side of the story.
Why did you choose to tell it now?
Well, for multiple reasons.
One, I found my voice.
I've been able to heal from a lot of things that have happened.
I've been able to cope with a lot of things.
And, you know, I want to do this.
I want my daughter to always know that, you know, it's embrace your voice.
Embrace your story.
And take accountability, you know?
And I want her to know my story.
I think that it would impact a lot of lives, especially my daughter's.
So she knows about the book, she knows you're doing interviews, she knows all this?
She knows I'm in meetings, she doesn't know exactly the interviews and what they persist of or anything like that, but she's like, she knows I'm in meetings and she knows that I'm writing a book.
And she knows that it's for her.
So the book is for her.
How does she understand her role in all of this?
What's her level of understanding?
I don't know if she understands her role in all of this.
I mean, she's still young.
Very, very young.
Right.
She understands little tidbits.
She understands the relationships that she has in her life, and this has a lot to do with it.
She understands the importance of what are paternal's side of the family, what they do and who they are.
She understands that importance in their roles as far as the first family.
So she knows that her grandfather is the president?
Yes.
So she knows that.
And you actually mentioned before that we're sitting here just blocks away from the House.
And it's up to you, do you want to tell me what you just said off air?
Yeah, so she, um, we're at the, at our, says, um, we tell her, I ask the publicist where we're going, what's the location and stuff, and she says it's actually close to, um, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and I was like, oh, okay, so I'm telling, you know, my mom, it's down from the White House, and so Navy hears that, and she's like, oh, well, that's where, so are we gonna stop and say hi to him?
Are we gonna go, and I was like, I don't know why I even said that.
She's very, very intelligent.
Very intelligent.
And she knows so much more than... So she right away asked, Oh, are we going to see my grandpa?
Right.
And I was like, Oh, well, I was like, I think he's out of town.
Like he's working.
You know, he has a very busy job, which I've told her many times when she asks why they're not around.
out there you know they that I told her that her grandfather has these this very important job and you know he's out there doing things for people and she says oh so he's out there you know other people and he'll come see me and like in the book I talked about so many times that that's brought up and and she's very very intelligent she understands but not quite you know she doesn't quite get it but
Now, had you always decided to be open like that and be transparent with her?
Or was that something you came to eventually?
I wanted to.
There's a lot of things that I've thought about and I've wanted to instill in my daughter.
And one of them is being resilient.
And never have to look back and say, well, this is how it actually happened when that time I was telling you it was happening another way.
Because parents do.
You want to shield your child, right?
Oh yeah, of course.
And you don't want to break their heart.
You don't want to be the one to break their heart.
By the way, boys, if you're watching, I've never done that.
I've never, ever, you know, I might, never.
No, no, no, no.
Hey, listen, there's even one story in the book I talk about, you know, Navy's three things.
Her three things?
Three things.
You can tell her if she does something, I'm like, Navy, three things, what are they?
And she's in trouble and she's like, respectful, kind, and something like that.
Raise you any other way.
Wow.
So she'll tell me, you know, which one she didn't do or which one she did.
It's very Southern, by the way.
It is very Southern.
But, you know, that that's a trait that I want to instill in her, those traits.
And so there's a story in the book one night, you know, she asks about about Hunter and I tell I talk about how, you know, questions are hard to answer as parents when it comes to difficult situations.
And I think in my head, respectful, kind and honest.
And then you have then I lied.
Like, I had to lie to her because it just broke my heart.
I couldn't tell her the truth of, you know, what had happened that day.
And so this, that idea is, I want to go back to that a second.
So, you know, you mentioned, so she knows her grandfather is, she knows her grandfather's a president.
She's, she's constantly asking me, and you detail this in the book, Out of Shadows.
I do.
And there are times then where I'm guessing that she must see him on television, see him on newspapers.
I mean, you, you can't avoid that.
Well, that is true.
You know, I avoid it at the house.
I don't watch the news or anything like that.
As you know, before we were talking, I don't know much about the news and what's going on.
And so I try to avoid that.
For her sake, I don't want her to see things of, you know...
Sure, sure.
We don't watch tons of stuff.
So I try to shoulder from that as much as I can but there's also times you know I talk about that we're in like a nail salon and it's like hey look mom there's my grandpa pointing at the TV and I'm like okay first of all lower your voice Let's be quiet.
She sees my dad as her papi that she gets to see every day.
He shows her this unconditional love.
And she knows him as her grandpa that she occasionally might see on a TV screen in passing.
As you occasionally might see on a TV screen in passing.
And that's gotta be so strange for her, because obviously, as you say, she has this great relationship with your father, with your mother, who are there physically.
And at some point, though, she's gonna ask, I have to imagine, when am I gonna get to see him?
And even as you say, right now, as we're Just a few blocks away from the White House.
I mean, I don't even know which way you guys drove, but it's kind of hard to get where we are right now without seeing the White House.
It's just where we are.
Totally doxing our location, by the way.
Sorry, Raf.
Sorry, Rob.
It is what it is.
But, you know, we're here in downtown D.C.
The White House is a ubiquitous landmark.
Do you guys plan to take some time in D.C.
and go see any of the sites, or do you have time?
I don't know if we have much time, but it's one of my favorite places.
I lived here and absolutely loved it.
Still do.
I like the fact that she loves it too.
She's been here before and I talk about in the book how we stayed here for...
About a month.
And, you know, I talk about the first time that I take her to the White House.
And she doesn't fully understand who's inside, but I do.
And there she is outside the gates.
And, you know, I talk about—there's—in this book, Out of the Shadows, it's taken a complete journey to come out of those shadows, because there's so much that's happened and so many emotions.
As, you know, just a person in general going through so much, but especially as a mother, and seeing, you know, I say, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, right?
Oh, yeah.
But hell hath no greater fury than a woman whose baby is being scorned.
That hurts.
Well, and that's, you know, and I've seen some of your other interviews where you've brought this up, and let's just, let's run through it.
Has there been any communication from the family other than what you've talked to about Hunter before?
Any other family members whatsoever?
Because she's got adult sisters who, you know, have cell phones and I'm sure know how to use FaceTime and know how to do all this.
So, not even communication from her own sisters.
No, I was advised by my attorney that, you know, most of the time the family sits back and doesn't, you know, take initiative until the father does that.
And so, you know, it's something that, I don't know.
I can't explain.
I can't explain anyone else's behavior other than my own, right?
But you've had no communication?
Wow.
No, and that and that's that really cuts against and, you know, obviously, I'm trying to not to make this political, but there is an image that the first family tries to present of being a family focused family values.
It's something that they use and have used for a very long time.
And to me, it seems like everything that you're describing flies completely in the face of that.
And and whatever the situation was, Your daughter wasn't responsible for anything.
She's completely innocent.
So wouldn't the family first option be to say, we're going to try to find a way to work something out?
Absolutely.
I would think so.
And I would think, you know, no matter what, especially when a child is involved or anything.
Embrace it.
You know, there's nothing more that the American people love, I would think, than the First Family being humanized, like, feeling relatable.
Wouldn't you?
Of course.
Look, as a guy, you know, and I was, you know, chatting with some of the producers about the situation and thinking about it and say, look, you know, I don't know what would happen if my boys ever You know, came to me with a story like this, but I say, all right, we got to figure it out.
Right.
And we're going to do something.
And I don't know what it's going to look like.
And I don't know how it's going to figure out.
And, you know, you got the White House involved in all this, but they go to Rehoboth and they have these huge family get togethers and they post the pictures and weddings.
And they're very, very active with the family.
And so how hard would it be to just add one more person to this already large family picture?
And to me, that is evidence of what you say.
That's evidence of the fact that this is scorn, that this is deliberate.
There is a decision.
Somebody made a decision at some point that we are not going to do this.
Right, and it's tough.
It's your child that's on the outskirts like that, and you're so protective as a parent, and that's tough.
It's tough to see, and it's tough to watch these almost slaps in the face to your daughter.
It's hard, you know, and you always have that hope for some form of redemption.
Of course.
And some form of embrace, or some form of acknowledgement, or, you know, anything that would, because a daughter yearns for a father's love, and Navy does.
She does.
I mean, she asks about him.
She wants to be a professional painter now.
I talk in the book about, you know, their Zoom calls and how as soon as they start that relationship, like, I'm just like out of the picture.
She, you know, mama's not hero anymore.
It's, it's, I want to be like my dad.
And, you know, before T-Ball, she wants to talk to her dad.
She gets out of surgery.
And vice versa.
He was communicating.
What was the surgery?
She had her adenoids removed.
Oh, you know what?
I did hear that.
I did read that.
But it was vice versa.
It started off as court ordered that he would FaceTime once a month or Zoom or whatever to do a painting.
But they started developing this relationship where there's multiple calls.
There might be multiple calls a week.
And that's good.
That's actually good.
We have a quick break coming up.
We're on with London Roberts.
The book, fascinating book.
I'm going to read this cover to cover out of shadows.
I want everyone else to read it as well.
We'll be right back.
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So, I want to ask you more about the parenting side, but I'm also reminded that, and I want people to know about the book, because we're here to sell a book, right?
We have the same publisher, so we're working with Sky Horse, and you have signed books as well, right?
So where did they go for the signed books?
Premier Collectibles, I think?
I believe so, yes.
So Premier Collectibles, great group.
We're working with them as well, so a lot of connective tissue there.
But one of the things that, so obviously the book, it's your story, it's your daughter's story, her first steps into life.
You are Taking control of the narrative then resetting in many ways the narrative But there is part of the narrative in the book actually where you talk about that time in DC and something that I know our audience is going to want to get this book for and that is Rosemont Seneca the fact that you actually were around not on the business side but you were actually around a lot of these individuals that come up for us and
When we look at the, we talk about the laptop and all these stories that have come out in the press, what was Rosemont Seneca like when you were actually there? - You know, honestly, like the times I was there, 'cause there was a lot of, you know, I was his assistant, And so, I did a lot of, like, odds and ends that he needed done, running around and doing whatever.
But, you know, they were moving things out.
And so, I didn't get the full, you know, Rosemont Seneca experience.
I got the Hunter package as his executive assistant, doing certain things that he needed done, also communicating with his other assistant and, you know, conspiring together what needed to be done.
Yeah, I didn't get the full Rosemont Seneca package, but the Rosemont Seneca package I got was, you know, the partying and stuff like that with Hunter.
And was that always part of it?
Was that always, as you say, part of the package?
No, it was part of Hunter.
Yeah, well.
But no, not necessarily.
I mean, you know, there was times that, you know, I worked with Katie Dodge and his other assistant and helped, you know, move things out of the office, get things and do things and do certain paperwork, go over things.
It had that, you know, it had that other side too.
And I talk about that throughout the book because, you know, at one point when I become pregnant, I just leave and come back to Arkansas, you know, then you're just up and leave and, you know, you're still on payroll.
Well, what people don't understand is like, you know, at one point when I found out I was pregnant and Him and I kind of disconnect.
You know, we lose that over time.
And there's that abandonment.
Then, you know, I was dealing with a lot.
And dealing with, you know, someone—I was pregnant.
I was alone.
You know, he—it was obvious where he was going and the direction.
You know, he was an addict.
And I knew that.
And then the possibility that his father might run for president someday.
Was there—you know, was there ever any discussion about perhaps not having the pregnancy?
No, you know, he told me in the beginning when I told him about me being pregnant.
He accepted it and told me that, you know, no matter what decision I decided, that he would be there for me.
Physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, like, he said all that.
Was it something you ever considered?
No, but you know, there was one time where I was talking to a friend and I was like, you know, it's sad that... Because it's a lot.
It is.
It's a lot.
And you think, you know, you don't want to be the person to go through this, you know, and like I was talking about... And a lot of people, a lot of people might take that other route.
Right, and what people don't realize about me is behind the scenes, I get my anxiety builds up.
This is really hard for me.
This, talking to you in front of so many people, is coming out of the shadows.
And that's the whole purpose of the book.
It's a dedication to my daughter, so one day she can admire her mother for telling her story.
And my story comes with a lot of forgiveness.
And that's something I'd like to instill in my daughter as well, that resilience, you know?
Forgive people, even if they don't deserve it, even if they don't apologize.
It's okay to forgive people, to not carry that burden around for yourself.
It's very hard to forgive.
It's very hard to forgive.
It is!
Though, I will say, the Catholic side of me says, we do also ask for atonement.
We do also ask people that we pray that people would want to atone as well, in order to seek their own forgiveness, in a sense.
And that's where you get redemption.
Right, so that's where redemption comes in.
And so, not on you, I'm talking about the people who have committed such things.
And so, you know, actually, it's funny, I got a comment in here just now, because you were talking about resilience and strength and having the ability to overcome your anxiety and obviously go through what I'm sure are going to be a lot of attacks.
You detail this in the book about harassment and threats and all of the things that you face.
I got this comment here from from a guy still boneless and it said he says it's it's so hard on the parent that stays with the child because the parent that's left gets put on a pedestal in their eyes and so the absentee parent All that, it's, you just have this positive side, this positive view, all their positive attributes are enhanced and all of the negatives, they don't exist.
They don't exist.
Whereas with you, she's, she's spending every day with you.
So it's like, Oh, mom was mad at me cause I drew on the wall or whatever.
Not to say she did, but I'm talking about my kids, you know, they see all that, but for, but it's, it's the image of the father.
And then as you, as you mentioned, the grandfather, then they become these larger than life figures.
Yeah, and that's very true.
I mean, Navy Joan just absolutely adores anything that has to do with her father.
She just thinks it's, you know, great and wonderful.
And, you know, I also instill that in her, that love and that forgiveness that I talk about throughout the book.
When there's times, of course, don't get me wrong, you know, there's a lot of anger in this book, and there's a lot of heartbreak, and there's a lot of times where I want to say the worst thing possible about him, but I don't.
And, you know, like when she, she'd never heard her father's voice, and Mom, what does my dad sound like?
What does his voice sound like?
I could have done many things.
I could have made fun of his accent.
I could have done anything to try to throw her off or deflect.
But I didn't.
I sat down with her and I pulled up the video of him at Bo's funeral where he gave the eulogy.
And you know, he's sitting there and he's like, I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
Because that's a video of her father showing love.
So you've even been willing to get into some of those, like the family tragedies as well.
Well, I mean, she doesn't know that it was a eulogy for a funeral or anything like that.
She's just hearing, you know, her father's voice and kind of, and she hears the, I love you.
I love you.
And, you know, she's talking back to the, to the phone.
She's like, I love you.
And like kisses the iPhone.
I'm just like, you know, there, there are times where I've not wanted to be so respectful and so nice, but for my daughter, I'll do anything.
And, you know, I want her to know that she comes from a place of love and she, you know, she comes from people who are capable of love.
I want her to always know that.
So just a few minutes left here with you, but let me, let me ask you this.
If you had the opportunity to send a message or even just sit down, sit down with, um, with Navy Jones, grandfather or grandmother with, with Jill, what, what would you, what would you ask them?
What would you, what would your message to them be?
Yeah, why?
I've said that so many times.
Why exclude a little girl that is your own blood?
Why exclude your child or your grandchild?
Because it doesn't make sense to me.
I don't think there's any way to really defend it, but that's something that she's going to want to know.
And that's tough.
That's a tough question, and I don't think it's on my shoulders to answer.
Because I think she's deserving of the world.
I think she's great.
And, you know, I love her more than anything in this world.
And she's going to want to know, why didn't they?
And so that would be my question.
I think there's, you know, I talk about hope throughout the book.
I continuously, situation after situation of being let down, have this hope for redemption.
And it's kind of like you said, you know, forgiveness comes with atonement.
That's right.
As it should.
I get that.
I get that as well.
But you always have that hope for some form of redemption.
I know.
I agree.
I mean, forgiveness is a gift.
It's a gift for us.
It's a gift for them.
We're getting very theological now, but you know, it's tied to that and it's emotional too.
It's tied to that process of realizing that I'm going to now make steps in my life to no longer engage in those things.
It doesn't mean I'm going to be perfect, right?
But I'm going to take active steps to, in this case, to try to include My granddaughter or our granddaughter in maybe it's a family event maybe it's a family doesn't need to be public doesn't need to be something that's all you know plastered over television and have me tweeting about it and everything but something not for public consumption of media or anything but for your own granddaughter and it's as it's as simple as that and I I congratulate you so much this this sounds like this easy for you
It's taken a lot of time and there were chapters that my co-authors had to help me through because it was so hard to write and there's still stories that, you know, sitting in front of you I could talk about and just get so emotional because they are emotional.
They were hard to write and they're even harder to talk about, right?
But, you know, I want my daughter to know that her mother stands ten toes down at all times and, you know, I'm embracing that.
I'm coming out of the shadows with my voice and I want her to have that I want her to admire that someday, the strength that it took to come out of the shadows and be this person.
I want her to have that resilience, and I want her to admire me someday for doing this.
This is for her.
I'll just say that there's a lot of choices you could have made, and there's a lot of ways that you could have played this situation, but the way that you've dealt it is probably the most admirable way I could think of possible.
Thank you.
In going public, having that courage, being able to be respectful, but at the same time, not giving up and holding the line for yourself and your daughter.
Right.
London Roberts, God bless you and God bless your family.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
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uh we've got our our next guest up coming here caroline levitt the press secretary for the trump campaign and Now, you may have heard that she was on CNN a little bit this week.
We've got a clip.
Let's play right now.
It would take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump, to see that Jake Tapper has consistently... Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're going to keep attacking my colleagues.
Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to attack my colleagues.
I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.
If you are here to speak on his behalf, I am willing to have this conversation.
I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.
Now, as for this debate, the expectation for... Okay, I'm sorry guys, we're going to come back out to the panel.
Caroline, thank you very much for your time.
You are welcome to come back at any point.
She is welcome to come back and speak about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both join us now at next, early, later this week in Atlanta for this debate.
So tomorrow night is debate night here in these United States and CNN isn't just going to be someone who's covering debates.
That's the very same CNN who, oh, by the way, is going to be running the debates.
And the question I think on everyone's mind is, will those debates be held to the same standard that the CNN morning show just was, where if you bring up Some of the ACTUAL things that Jake Tapper, who is going to be one of the hosts on the show, one of the moderators of the debate, has said on CNN, some of these absolutely, horrifically biased things that he said about President Trump, comparing him to Adolf Hitler on numerous occasions.
If you bring that up, If you bring that up, that suddenly your mic gets cut off, that line of questioning gets cut off.
Look, and we remember, by the way, that Chris Wallace was cut off four years ago in his debate when, or excuse me, Chris DeBose cut off President Trump four years ago when President Trump brought up what?
Hunter Biden.
Well, we just had we just had Hunter Biden's.
The Biden's daughter here in studio, London Roberts.
And there's some.
I think she has.
No, I don't think that President Trump should bring that up in any way.
But I would say certainly myself that that family has a lot to answer for.
And there's a little girl, who, what can I say, I didn't know that that was going to be going on today, that, obviously we knew we had the guest scheduled, but to hear that, Mommy, are we going to see Grandpa today?
There's the White House just a block or two away.
And we are just a block or two away from the White House.
Are we going to see Grandpa today?
Oh, Grandpa's busy.
We can't see Grandpa today.
He's busy.
Oh, well, we'll see him later, right?
Then one day he'll see me.
I just, you know, as a father and anyone who's a parent out there have no idea, no idea how you answer that question.
Do we have Caroline?
Caroline, are you there?
Yes, I'm here.
Hey, Jack, great to see you.
Okay, producers, I want you to cut her mic immediately, throw her off the show.
Look, I mean, this is ridiculous.
Allow you to speak when we've invited you on the show?
Wow, who would do such a thing?
Unbelievably crazy way to start the debate week.
And all I was trying to do, Jack, was repeat statements that Jake Tapper himself has made On the air, lies about President Trump, saying that President Trump's presidency was a long national nightmare, comparing President Trump to Hitler, which is disgusting.
Jake Tapper's done that many times on the air, but when I try to bring that up on the air, they canned me off the show.
And by doing so, they did two things.
They proved our campaign's point that President Trump is knowingly walking into a three-on-one knife fight tomorrow night.
But they also exposed the truth about Jake Tapper to the entire world.
And now everyone knows just how anti-Trump he has been over the past eight years.
Well, and so give us a little bit of a preview then.
As much as you can only reveal all the strategy here, but certainly it feels like if that's how they're setting the frame, do you think that there are going to be where things, we know the mic cutting has already been something that they've put out as a stipulation, what?
What is the plan to respond when that happens?
Well, we hope that CNN will not do what they did to me on Monday.
We hope that they will try to prove themselves as the most trusted name in news.
And give a truly fair shake to both President Trump and Joe Biden.
Ask good, tough questions of both of the candidates.
They should ask Joe Biden why he lied about the Hunter Biden laptop scandal on their network four years ago on the debate stage.
No matter what, President Trump is going to be ready to talk about the issues that matter to voters across this country.
Our wide open border invasion, the inflation that's robbing hardworking families.
He's prepared for this debate.
He engages in hostile media interviews with the press where he's cut off all the time.
He gives hours long speeches, oftentimes not even referring to his teleprompter.
And Joe Biden has been spending a week away at Camp David hiding in the woods.
So hopefully he's prepared as well.
My favorite theory on that is from from my good friend Brickstude, his His theory is that he's working on changing his sleep schedule so he's waking up later and later in the day and eventually it'll feel like 9pm or 8pm is sort of the middle of the day for him.
But Caroline, that being said, what's the campaign's main theme that they'd like to draw coming out of the debate?
Someone who works in media, of course.
Well, I think that our goal, of course, is to highlight President Trump's strength with Joe Biden's weakness, and to contrast President Trump's record of success with Joe Biden's record of abysmal failures.
And as long as President Trump is given adequate time to speak and his microphone is not cut off, and good questions are asked of both candidates, He will absolutely come away having done that.
Well, look, I mean, that's exactly what it is.
And to voters out there, I think it's really Biden who's got the harder argument to make to say things are good when we know poll after poll, or people just can go anecdotally to any gas station or any grocery store and ask people, how do you feel about your purchase today?
Do you think things are better or worse?
And so what do you expect Biden's argument to even be when that's brought up?
Well, Joe Biden's campaign has now burnt through more than $100 million running advertisements, shamefully saying that President Trump is a threat to democracy, which is just an utter lie, of course.
It's a fallacy that they've been trying to push, and it's a message that is not resonating, because the only return on that $100 million investment on that message has been Joe Biden's decline in the polls, and actually a recent Washington Post poll Found that in the key battleground states, voters trust President Trump to secure democracy more than they trust Joe Biden.
And they should, because look at what he did in his first term.
President Trump created historic, unprecedented peace around this world.
He was the first president not to enter the United States into any new wars.
We had a booming economy under President Trump's leadership.
We had a secure border.
And now we have Joe Biden, who has destroyed all of those accomplishments of the Trump administration, and Joe Biden Is the true threat to democracy?
Just yesterday, there was a report that showed that there's more than 50 ISIS-linked terrorists that are currently roaming around our country, and the Department of Homeland Security has no idea where they are.
They came through Joe Biden's open border.
What is a greater threat to democracy than that, having terrorists openly coming into your homeland?
What's a greater threat to democracy than being on the brink of World War III?
Just last week, China and North Korea, or I'm sorry, Russia and North Korea met to create a new pact, an alliance together, because Joe Biden's weakness is ripping America off and it's putting us in a very dangerous predicament on the world stage.
And so that's why their message is failing, because Americans know that their lives were better under President Trump's leadership.
Our nation was more safe and more secure because of his policies.
And that's the opposite of what we see today.
Absolutely.
Caroline Levitt, the National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign.
Good luck to you guys tomorrow night.
I know you're gonna be very busy.
Thanks, Jack.
Take care.
Talk to you soon.
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Alright, Jack Pasovic back live here at Human Defense Daily.
Now look, folks, we're covering a lot of ground today.
We know we have the debate tomorrow.
We just heard from London Roberts.
But also, of course, that huge decision by the Supreme Court to say Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh did not rule the way we wanted.
We want to talk about that very quickly.
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i want to introduce our next guest andrew ridda because we need to talk more about this supreme court decision He is the CEO of Liberation Technology Service.
This is LiberationTech.com, and a former member of the Trump White House.
Andrew, thank you for joining the show.
Hey, Jack.
Thanks for having me.
I've got to get your response to the Supreme Court decision.
This thing is hot, and I've got to say I'm hot about it.
Yeah, I think that it's a huge win for the Bidens, the Biden administration, the Biden campaign, and a huge loss for the American Constitution.
Unfortunately, you know, this could be something in 18 months where we are looking back and saying, if only the courts would have taken action.
Well, and this is a huge point, right?
Because, and I said in the earlier part of the show that when they declare someone's tweets to be Russian disinformation and say, oh, well, you've got to censor that because of this.
Now, Elon Musk, this is something that I've had the opportunity to actually ask him about directly in a one on one where I said, you know, Elon, if the FBI comes to you and says you need to censor a certain story or a certain topic because it is, quote unquote, Russian disinformation. if the FBI comes to you and says you need And it is, in fact, completely lawful speech.
Would you do that?
He said no.
And then I asked him again.
I said, Elon.
Just because you say no, that's good enough.
But what if they sue you?
What if they threaten to do more?
And Elon's immediate response to me, without hesitation, was, I would be willing to go to jail rather than take down lawful speech.
I said, OK.
And as an interviewer, you know you're not going to get a better answer out of a guy.
I said, all right, I'll take that.
But that being said, does Mark Zuckerberg believe that?
Does TikTok believe that?
Do all of these other these other entities believe that?
I don't know.
So what what can people do to try to combat this and get around it?
What can people do other than the the Supreme Court here?
Because it seems like and I've got a comment here from from Winnie nine, three, five, four, any Coney Barrett did a bait and switch.
She was raised a rhino and she's making her daddy proud.
Wow.
People very, very upset.
Yeah, I think that it's a severe travesty.
And really, the answer is go to the alternative platform.
Stop putting money, time and energy into these companies that are not only surrendering information.
Oftentimes, they are proactively handing over information, just like what we saw out of the Twitter files that Musk had released.
But even more concerning is they don't even really have to say that it's Russian disinformation.
The DHS has a new classification called malinformation, which essentially means it just goes against the Biden administration's official position or narrative.
So really, you can find yourself deplatformed, cancelled, put into Twitter or, excuse me, Facebook timeout, just because you have an alternate vision and narrative than what the government is pushing forward.
And that's what we saw in COVID-19.
Uh, you know, all the election information, Hunter Biden laptop story.
And now the Biden administration has a clean slate to just go and push these companies to take further and further action against the American people and against free speech.
Now that said, do you think, do you think potentially that there could be a legislative fix to this?
Obviously that was something that we talked about a lot during the Trump administration.
Worked very hard.
President Trump came out with a few, you know, kind of executive orders, but nothing really concrete on it.
But it seems to me that there could be a legislative way at least to put pressure here.
Yeah, so really what you're talking about is Section 230.
Yes.
And that has been around for decades at this point.
It's incredibly outdated.
It does not represent current times and current technologies.
And so, you know, these companies are given protection because they're considered a platform where information can be shared.
It can be decided upon the individual consumer if it's real or if it's not.
But as they move into what's called a publisher, where they're controlling what information is on their platform, they're no longer protected.
And so I think we really need to look at revising this and better defining a lot of these things, because these companies are protected under 230, even though they're completely violating 230 in many instances.
Oh, and that's, and that's precisely it, because we have this, this network body that's been there, I think, 230 applications in 1996, when the internet was still in its infancy, AOL was still sending CDs out, you know, with with magazine subscriptions.
And I'm like, my, yeah, my kids come up, they say, Daddy, what's a CD?
And even beyond that, it's like, Daddy, what's a magazine?
Andrew, tell people, where can they go to follow you to get access to everything that you're doing?
Yeah, so you can go to LiberationTech.
You can find all of our alternative platforms and services.
You can also follow us on all major social media platforms.
All right, Andrew, thanks so much for being on.
Look, folks, I understand people are very excited about this decision, and you should be.
Amy Coney Barrett, by the way, if you can go look all the way back when Amy Coney Barrett was being submitted for her nomination.
That one website on the conservative side dared run apiece saying that she might do something like this.
That she might be someone who did not stand up for many things in the conservative platform that we were looking for a redress of our grievances from the Supreme Court.
And by the way, not in a A political sense, but in a legal sense.
Uphold the First Amendment.
Uphold the Second Amendment.
That is your job, Amy.
That's your job.
Do your job.
And it was HumanEvents.com that put up that article, and we took a lot of flack for it at the time.
John Zmirek was the author, but guess what, folks?
Go and read—I'm going to post that article again right now.
Do your job, Amy.
Do your job.
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.
