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New this morning, a gunman opened fire at the U.S. Embassy.
Embassy in Lebanon.
The Lebanese Army says a Syrian national tried to attack the embassy today.
The person was injured in an exchange of gunfire with soldiers there.
The U.S.
Embassy in Beirut says its facility and teams are safe.
The gunman was taken to the hospital for treatment.
In a show of support for Israel, the Republican-led House approved a bill to punish the ICC for its decision to issue arrest warrants for top Israeli leaders over the war in Gaza.
Well, major development when it comes to immigration policy in this country.
Today, President Biden taking executive action and limiting the amount of migrants who are crossing the border illegally.
The executive action, which takes effect today, allows the president to temporarily shut down the border if illegal crossings reach 2,500 a day.
Hunter Biden's ex-wife could testify this morning at the criminal trial of the president's son accused of lying about his drug use when he bought a gun in 2018.
Prosecutors called an FBI special agent as their first witness who played clips from Biden's 2021 audio book of his memoir.
are beautiful things.
In which he recounts his descent into crack cocaine addiction the same year he purchased the gun.
I used my superpower, finding crack anytime, anywhere, less than a day after landing at LAX in the spring of 2018.
Biden not acknowledging his drug use when applying for a Colt 38 handgun in October 2018, and then unlawfully possessing it.
On Tuesday, the infamous laptop that Hunter Biden left at a Delaware repair shop in 2019 was also introduced into evidence.
The FBI agent testified it contained messages detailing Biden's drug addiction.
You have no idea.
You know hard drives can be manipulated.
Are you suggesting the New York Post is participating in a conspiracy to construct the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop?
No, sir.
The problem is that hard drives can be manipulated by Rudy Giuliani or Russia.
What's the evidence that that happened?
Well, there is actual evidence of it, but the point is it's not the same thing.
There's no evidence for it, so you're engaging in a conspiracy.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
Today is June 5th, 2024.
Anno Domini.
I have a question.
Did Joe Biden break campaign finance laws when his campaign organized 51 intelligence officials to put together a letter Claiming, falsely, that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation.
Now, who do you suppose it was on the Biden campaign that actually put together that letter?
I'll give you a little hint.
His name rhymes with Pony Stinkin!
Yes, that's right.
Pony Stinkin was the man who set in motion, and by the way, we have under testimony, this letter was set in motion by none other than Pony Stinkin, by the former CIA Director Mike Morrell.
So let's go through this a little bit.
Yesterday in court, in this totally separate case, Hunter Biden has the laptop introduced in court as evidence against him.
That means the FBI knew all along that the laptop was real.
That means that when the FBI was going to Twitter and Meta, Mark Zuckerberg and Yole Roth and all these other people and giving them the defensive pre-briefings, that they knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real.
That it was not a quote unquote hack and leak operation as Yole Roth claimed in 2020.
Yole Roth being the trust and safety director for Twitter at the time.
By the way, he disclosed that to who?
This is the best part.
This is the best part.
The FEC.
Because the FEC was investigating Twitter for an illegal in-kind donation.
So now we know that in fact the illegal in-kind donation or contribution Was that letter, that 51 Intel officials letter.
So if you want to talk to me and they say, oh, these hush money payments to Stormy Daniels interfered in the 2016 election and that's 34 felonies.
Okay.
All right.
So that's your, that's your position.
If that's your position, then where are you on the 51 Intel officials who signed a false document orchestrated by the Biden campaign?
Orchestrated by Pony Stinkin himself that this was Russian disinformation because we know that that played a massive role in election interference.
They censored us on Twitter.
They censored us on Facebook.
This came up.
This was blasted throughout the entire media.
It even came up with the debate.
So which is it?
They centered the New York Post.
They centered War Room.
No one would look at this thing.
The entire thing was an illegal, in-kind contribution to the Biden campaign that Pony Stinkin himself brought up.
Sure would be a shame if the Republicans actually did something about this for once.
I won't hold my breath.
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He just graduated from kindergarten, so they had the kindergarten celebration.
That's where Tanya Tay and myself were this morning.
We took our 3-year-old there.
And I'll just say this real quick, because I know the family's watching, probably some people from school are watching, and when they say time flies when you have kids, and they grow up so fast, I would say they totally undersold it.
They totally undersold it to the point where that's almost a lie.
You don't have any time.
The time is already gone.
Time you thought you had, you don't even have anymore.
I feel like ever since I graduated college, and certainly since I had kids, it's like I turn around every five minutes and I go, it's Christmas again?
What's going on over here?
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
And people, you know, who've been following me for a long time remember back when Tanya Tay and I got engaged and we did that on live stream and we had our wedding up on Twitter in 2017.
And now we've got a kid who's graduating kindergarten.
And it's like, how did that even happen?
Rich Barris is our guest today.
Rich, the people's pundit.
Getting a little personal, man.
What can I say?
But it's crazy how long and how many things that have happened here because, you know, in some ways it's like 2016 has never ended because we're still arguing about stuff that happened in 2016.
But then I'll think about it and I'm like, wait a minute.
I've got a son that just graduated kindergarten who, you know, didn't even – we weren't even married yet in 2016 when all that happened.
And yet so it's like life is continuing, but in a way political life seems kind of stuck.
And I wanted to get your sense more on some of these polling questions because so President Trump has just been convicted, you know, 34 counts, blah, blah, blah, of this thing all the way back from 2016.
But, you know, Frank Luntz and others have come out, and I've seen you blasting a lot of these push polls that have come out on it.
So let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
Did Biden receive a significant bump or not from this conviction?
Not.
I mean, that's the short answer, and let me elaborate on it, but let me just say what you just said.
You were, again, a little personal.
What Jack just said is totally true.
They undersold it.
There is no time.
It's accounted for, and it flies, and it's gone before you know it, so enjoy every moment that you can.
I would say this when it comes to Biden.
I went back and looked, Jack.
When the Tape came out.
The Billy Bush tape.
In 2016, we tracked every day.
I went back and looked.
Hillary Clinton got a bigger bump from the Billy Bush tape than Joe Biden got from the Trump conviction, okay?
And I would say this.
Always have to understand that part of that is going to be some measure of a response bias, right?
So, how much of it is really real?
How much of it is just part of a response bias?
That's why sampling errors are so important, being marginal shifts are so important, and the overall trends matter more.
The morning console poll, Biden bumped a few points.
He went up three points, even though it was one of Trump's bigger leads before he did.
And then he took a one point lead.
Now that's gone and Trump is back ahead.
I also want to say this, that the push polling that we're seeing, which is what it is, is not a valid way to poll the public.
When James Comey came to the microphone in 2016 and basically confirmed that Hillary Clinton broke the law, we did not say, Now that we know Hillary Clinton broke the law, does that influence your vote?
And how many of you won't vote for her now that she broke the law?
You don't do that.
You ask the question, and the only real valid, in my mind, my philosophy, the only real valid way to prod the public about that is, are you aware of those reports?
And to get a gauge about something like that is different and valid.
What you're seeing right now, asking the ballot test, then saying Trump's been convicted, he's a felon.
Now who are you going to vote for?
Does this impact your vote?
This is unbelievable.
You know, absolutely unbelievable.
They would fail an undergraduate survey design course, wording and ordering a survey like this.
And they know it.
They know it.
I saw a poll from Newsweek that was similar to this.
The headline, of course, you know, Biden gets six point bump from conviction.
And then you go down into the guts and the meat of the article.
Number one, they don't even tell you who conducted the poll.
And then number two, they have this weird line that says, the poll started as an internet poll.
What does that even mean?
What if it started as an internet poll?
There's no crosstabs.
There's no attribution to this thing.
There's no wording of anything.
They just want you to think that this is because they wanted their headline.
They wanted their headline.
They threw it out there.
They got their headline.
They recycled it.
This headline, Biden suddenly takes lead over Donald Trump, has been recycled now.
This is the third time Newsweek has recycled this headline.
Yes!
You know what?
You're right.
I remember that now.
You will see the same.
Yes.
You know what?
You're right.
I remember that.
Yes, they are recycling this headline.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
And then they were forced because that one poll that they cited to do use that headline was really an outlier.
And then people were, you know, two, three days later releasing other results showing Trump ahead and they literally just flipped Trump and Biden.
Donald Trump suddenly leads Joe Biden.
It's the same headline.
It's like it's built in a template in the back of WordPress or something.
They don't have an original thought in their head, and when the editor's posting the article, they're just grabbing it from the bank of headlines and throwing it in there.
It's completely shoddy.
The truth is, trends matter.
We just talked about the Morning Consult poll, but also the IBD Tip poll.
Pre-conviction, it was Biden plus two.
It was actually one that's been more favorable to Biden than the overall consensus in the aggregate, overall on multiple aggregates.
It is now a tied race on that poll.
In the Forbes-Harris X poll, it was tied last month.
Post-conviction, it is now Trump plus two, with Trump above 50.
The aggregate and the trend matters more than one-off polls that honestly have been outside of the consensus from the beginning of the cycle anyway.
Let's get real.
And again, you cannot do what I am telling you they are doing.
You look at the YouGov poll, and they stopped right short of it.
Almost nobody said they cared.
So, Rich, I want to ask you as well.
I know you're someone who, that you like Decision Desk, Decision Desk HQ a ton, and they're pretty down the middle.
They're pretty down the middle when they've got the right inputs.
And chance of winning, as far as your mainstream types go, Chance of winning, they currently have Decision Desk right now, this is post-conviction, their presidential forecast, they've got it out there, so they're putting, Decision Desk HQ is putting their entire credibility on the line with this.
They're saying as of right now, Trump 56% chance of winning, Biden 44%.
Rich, what are they basing that on?
And by the way, I just want to say that's up 3% since they first ran the simulations, okay?
It was 53 before the conviction.
So they're running simulations based on Battleground states?
They are.
They're running simulations based on polling as a factor, but it's not the only factor, and they'll lay out a couple of them if you go and check it out.
That's why I like Decision Desk.
Their model mirrors ours quite a bit.
It's, I'm sure, a little bit different when you look in the guts of it.
There are fundamentals of elections, Jack, and there's, you know, demographic voting patterns, there's demographic changes, there's presidential approval ratings, right?
There's fundraising.
And then there, of course, is polling.
And I want to say it's something like 20 million or 15 million simulations that they ran for this model.
And the most likely outcome, and it varies, of course, but the most likely outcome in the area where we are now in the popular vote, which is about a 1, 1.5 point Trump advantage, the most likely outcome puts Trump in the high 280s, 290 range with some, obviously,
Some simulations coming out with Donald Trump at 312 or more, but the most likely where you can see those two graphs show you the distribution of each outcome, and the most likely outcome is Trump winning 56% of the time.
And it's more than that, though.
It's a game.
You can see if you look at Biden's chart.
Yes.
There are times when Biden has a possibility of winning with, you know, high three hundreds, low four hundreds.
It's like zero point four chance.
I mean, zero point four percent chance.
And then when you look at Trump's, the highest probability is that Donald Trump wins and then he wins with like just under or over three.
300 electoral votes.
That's the most likely outcome where we are right now.
So you're saying Trump with like in the high 290s, something like that.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's a range when you do these and you show, you know, the, and people should go and check it out.
What it is, is they're showing the graphs can be a little bit confusing when you run these simulations, but they're giving you a distribution and they're showing you that, yes, there are a potential outcomes and scenarios when, when they run these models where it comes out that, I just saw it.
in, you know, 300, more than 312 electoral votes.
Yeah, I think they've got them at, they've got them at 280.
I just saw it.
They've got them at 280.
And honestly, that's fair.
Now I would say this though, modeling is really cool and it's fun.
And we discussed this on my show on Monday, but in the real world, often what happens is that these things will break.
When you're looking at their modeling, it splits Michigan from the rest of the crowd, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania go for Trump, Michigan sticks with Biden, but in the real world, there's only one, one election in modern memory.
When that's happened, Wisconsin went for the caucus involved, Michigan and Pennsylvania went for Walker and Bush.
They usually stick together.
Quick...
Quick break.
I want to get into this, the fact that the Rust Belt does tend to stick together.
Rich Barris, we're walking through the election forecast post-conviction without any of the push-pull nonsense.
Right back to you in a minute.
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Rich Barris, I actually...
Before we get into the push polls, walk me through a little bit of this forecast from Decision Desk, because I'm looking at it now, looking at some of the state by state, and you're right, this is very interesting.
I'm not going to say confusing, but it's very interesting to me why they would do this.
So they've got Minnesota going Biden, fine, we understand that.
They have New Hampshire going Biden.
I could see that one.
I think that's a little bit closer than they have it.
They've got North Carolina going Trump.
They've got Nevada going Biden, but only by like a point.
Then they've got Arizona and Georgia for Trump, which totally lines up.
But then yeah, they've got Wisconsin for Trump, Pennsylvania for Trump and Michigan for Biden.
What's up with that?
Yeah, I would say this with Nevada first.
I mean, those probabilities are so close.
They're like forced to pick one, but those probabilities are so close.
It's like Biden with 51% probability.
Folks, in my world, that's nothing.
That's a toying cost.
And I'm telling you, when these things break, the way elections really work in the real world, the national mood will shift.
And then when you have probabilities being that close, they're going to get swept with the waves.
I mean, that is what usually happens.
But what they're looking at is historical voting patterns, traditional voting patterns.
And that's holding Nevada in the Democratic column right now.
That's why Minnesota is actually 66%, even though the polls certainly don't suggest Biden has a 66% chance of holding it.
It's also why, by the way, that Florida only leans Republican, even though the probability is so high.
Florida is a likely Republican state, so is North Carolina.
North Carolina and Florida had big red waves in 22 against the national mood.
Nevada has moved more to the right even as, you know, it was a purple state and it was a light blue state, right?
But it moved to the right, or I would say it moved to the left less than the nation moved to the left.
It was the closest Senate race in 2022, even though Democrats were able to hold on so many of those other seats.
And when it comes to the Rust Belt, listen, I get it.
Again, historical voting patterns, I get it.
But the fact is, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, even though we have looked at some very, very tiny margins, they tend to stick with each other.
You know, Biden, he got Wisconsin, even though it was 0.2%.
Trump, he got Michigan, even though we're talking about 10,704 votes.
You know, they haven't split up since they voted for, since Wisconsin, back to caucus over Herbert Walker Bush.
Other than that, the last eight presidential elections we're talking about, they voted together in line.
So I understand that it really shows it's cool.
I mean, it's cool to look at it, but people should not look at models like specific gospel.
They should look at them again from a more trend and bird's eye view point of view.
Now, what's interesting here, and you've detailed this many times on the show, one of the reasons we're seeing this huge sunbelt swing is because of Hispanic support swinging for Trump.
It started in Florida.
You were the first person anywhere in the country saying this four years ago.
That's why you're seeing the swing in Arizona.
That's why you're seeing the swing in Nevada, the way you are.
By the way, Nevada, that's six electoral votes right there in anyone's pocket.
But of course, you don't see the Hispanic voting numbers with the same demographic, the demographic variants that you do in Valens in the Rust Belt.
So what we're really talking about, the swing voters up there really are your working class whites.
And that's the reason that economically you have this large block of working class whites, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, that do kind of, they tend to swing.
We know they tend to swing, as you've just stated, but they tend to swing together.
And that's the point.
It is.
And I would just, you know, starting with the first point with Nevada.
I mean, that's what's holding Nevada at a 51 percent Biden probability, is that the last four cycle average for historical voting preferences for Hispanics is still rather strong for Democrats.
So it's like, Listen, when these trends happen, they don't happen all at once.
It appears to be all at once, but it isn't.
You see a chipping away of a party or a candidate's vote support, and then it's almost like a floodgate opens.
That's what the polls are suggesting will happen with the Hispanic vote.
But they're giving the voting history.
It's due.
It's weight in the model, which is fine.
But again, it's a toss-up because it's like, how much will it swing?
And if it does, what are we looking like in Clark County?
Because, I mean, if he does as well as the polls suggest, then it's going.
And Biden's 51% likelihood is out the window.
In Michigan, Trump actually did really well with Hispanics in Michigan in 2020, according to the validated voter surveys and the exit polls.
He got like 40, 40 plus percent.
He didn't do that well in Pennsylvania with Hispanics, but it's that older demographic that's white working class.
And because of The tendency to disbelieve some of his increase with black working-class voters, that's keeping Michigan in Biden's column.
Again, though, if Trump does as well as the poll suggests with African-American votes and those white working-class votes do swing back to him like they did in 2016, then Michigan will go with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
But again, people, I really want to press this.
You know, people should not look at these models and say, this is a mathematical certainty and that's what, you know, we're going to see it come down like this.
They're 280 or 280, whatever it is at this point.
That's the model's best potential, you know, that's their highest probability outcome.
But it doesn't mean that there aren't scenarios that are indeed likely.
That's right.
And when was the last time you saw a model nail on the consensus?
I'm telling you, you know, what you're saying is that's the, that is the, that is the, you know, that's the median, that's the middle of the bell curve, that's the middle of the bell curve right there.
That's your median.
And, but there are scenarios where Trump completely blows it out too.
That's right.
And when was the last time you saw a model nail on the consensus?
Not often, you know, I mean, we've done well in our modeling compared to some of these This is fairly new and among our best year.
I mean, we still got a state wrong.
You know what I mean?
Like in 2014, we still got the New Hampshire Senate race wrong, even though we got everything else right in the Senate.
In 2016, we still got Nevada wrong, even though we got everything else right in the presidential race.
There's always some variance that you have to account for.
And I just think that we're not explaining it well enough to people, because there's getting all this interest in polling and forecast models.
It really is the job of people like me and others to say, listen, This is what it is, but it is not, you know, it is not supposed to be taken as—and I use this all the time because it's the best way I can say it—it's not supposed to be taken as gospel, concrete.
This is what's going to happen.
There certainly are scenarios that fall outside of this consensus, and here they are.
And that's what those graphs are supposed to be.
It's just a little bit difficult for people who never looked at them to understand.
Rich, there was another poll, though, talking about these push polls that we've been seeing, because, you know, the forecast model is where it is, but there were a couple other push polls that you wanted to mention, and I wanted to give you a chance to do that.
So, I just started on Twitter yesterday, which I'm sure a lot of people saw, Look, the Main Street Poll had all the hallmarks of a rushed poll.
I mean, these are supposed to be academics.
It's conducted jointly with Florida Atlantic University.
Jack, their sentence structure was all wrong.
Their grammar was garbage.
It looked like they had, like, again, I mean, they looked like they forced it out for narrative.
And what completely confirms that that's the case is the Released statement by the pollster.
So when we do a press release and I give a statement on what I think is the crux of the poll that people should pay attention to, I am so careful not to inject a point of view, an opinion.
You were supposed to give a straight down the middle of the road assessment of what the data says.
And this person's going on and on about how people are stupid and don't know the impact of the laws that Donald Trump broke.
I mean, first of all, that's not even true.
The TIP poll asked if they were aware of this verdict, and almost everybody in the TIP poll sample was aware of the verdict.
They didn't care!
In the YouGov poll, the people that said they were voting for Trump, they circled back and said, is the verdict going to have an impact?
Jack, three or four percent or something like that said, you know, well, yeah, I mean, it bothers me.
That's it.
So this person rushed his poll out just to get a narrative in play.
And it's obvious.
Make sure your sentences make sense before you release your push poll.
Make sure your sentences have spaces after the period at the end of a sentence before you release your poll.
Make sure you're spelling words correctly and not like a five-year-old before you release your poll.
These are people who are supposed to be geniuses at statistics and probabilities, and they can't spell basic words or make sure a paragraph is aligned correctly.
It was discussed.
I mean, that kind of stuff threatens to put us back.
We have been Rich, tell us how you really think.
Tell us how you really think, though.
Don't hold back.
Don't hold back, man.
Why are you biting your tongue?
Why are you biting your tongue?
I know, right?
Well, you know me.
a paragraph that was more coherent than what they rushed to put out so they could trash uh you know tell us how you really think tell us how you really think though don't hold back don't hold back man why are you biting your tongue why are you biting i know right well you know me i'm reserved you know you know me i always take the i always hear it's it's It's funny how, by the way, you could tell the you could tell the dads in this space because we always make references to our kids.
We always talk about that.
And I got to I got to tell you, I know you're a little bit ahead of me in the kid game, but that that, you know, just in the last minute here, that that that thing kind of rocked me today when I'm sitting there thinking, wait a minute, this is you know, this is just going like he's on this path, man.
And it just goes, doesn't it?
It does.
I mean, Jack, my oldest I remember when he was my little turkey.
I mean, he just finished his, he just got done with his first year of high school.
And he's done so much.
I'm so proud of him.
My daughter's in middle school.
I have my midlife crisis baby, but he's about to be five already.
The time flies so fast.
And then I still think about when my father said things to me that I now say, To my children.
And I think back about how that time is just gone now, you know?
And you think, you know, one day you're going to be pops and it's going to come sooner than you think.
There's no time.
It's already gone.
That's why if you want to make a stand, you do it now.
Locals.PeoplesPundit.com.
Make sure you go follow Rich Barras, the Big Data Pole.
He'll give it to you straight.
And folks, remember, we got skin in the game around here.
Stay tuned.
We've got a big guest up next.
And Jack, where is Jack?
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulitzer's.
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Very excited to have on our next guest.
This is Attorney General Andrew Bailey.
from the great state of Missouri, because we've been talking for a long time, folks, about this word, about the word reciprocity.
And when I say reciprocity, people get this, you know, I've gotten comments, people saying, oh, you're saying we should just file nuisance lawsuits, et cetera, against, you know, against Democrats.
And the level said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We need to actually uncover the truth of that which it is that they are actually doing.
And Attorney General Bailey is someone who's doing exactly that.
Mr. Attorney General, thank you so much for joining us here at Human Events.
Thanks for having me on.
So walk us through, you've got a big week coming up at, actually coming up tomorrow.
You've got a big week this week, big day coming up tomorrow.
Walk us through what's going on.
Thank you.
Yeah, well, as you know, media matters, so radical, progressive advocacy group masquerading as a 501c3 or c4 as a watch, not-for-profit watchdog, when in reality, what they really want to do is silence conservative voices, and they're willing to manipulate marketplaces to do that.
My concern is that back at the end of last year, they obtain charitable donations from across the country to include from Missourians, and then converted that money into a market manipulation designed to destroy X, formerly known as Twitter.
They did that by juxtaposing controversial speech with prominent advertisers in an attempt to force those advertisers out of X.
They want to destroy it because they can't control it.
They don't want free speech in America because they can't win the argument on the merits.
So they have to control public discourse.
And the way they do that is by eliminating the right to free speech.
My office launched an investigation in large part because of what you did to uncover what was going on.
And thank goodness there was a clarion call from you that alerted so many Americans to what was going on.
And so we've taken action.
We filed investigative subpoenas with Media Matters to get to the bottom of it, to protect Missourians, to protect the open marketplace of ideas.
And Media Matters has filed suit against me.
Luckily, I sued them first in the state of Missouri, and so they sued me in Maryland.
That case needs to be dismissed, and we're going to court to get that case dismissed.
And if they have claims against the Missouri Attorney General's Office, they can come here to Missouri and litigate them as part of my case.
And so let's get to the crux of it.
Let's get to the crux of your case.
You sued Media Matters.
Specifically, you were targeting X. You were targeting some of the activity that they've done.
By the way, I should also mention that since then, since you launched your investigation, Media Matters has been forced to cut staff.
They've laid off about a dozen staffers.
It could be that we're seeing people shift around.
Angelo Carusone or Carusone, I'm not even sure how you say it.
You know this guy running around saying it's uh you know suddenly they're the ones facing a legal assault but instead they're the ones who have been assaulting the public for years at this point.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, I think there's a document that I know we're in possession of that others have seen as well that would chill the devil's spine.
It's a blueprint published back in 2016 or shortly thereafter by Media Matters and some of their partners in this illicit campaign to silence conservative voices.
The whole idea here, their whole blueprint, is to apply corporate pressure campaigns to snuff out any voice in opposition to radical left-wing progressive ideology.
That's frightening from a First Amendment standpoint.
It's frightening from a market manipulation standpoint, but it's consistent with what we see from the left.
Look at the case of Missouri v. Biden.
This is the most important First Amendment suit in this nation's history, where my office has uncovered a relationship of coercion and collusion from the Biden White House across a spectrum of federal bureaucratic agencies to silence American voices on big tech social media platforms in violation of the First Amendment right to free speech.
Guess which voices they targeted?
Only conservative voices.
Media Matters represents a new front in that same war.
What they can't do through direct attack, because we've exposed it and are building a wall of separation between tech and state, and the First Amendment protects our rights, they're now doing through market manipulation.
And that's why, as attorneys general, we have to be vigilant.
And I'm proud to stand with my partner in Texas, Ken Paxton, in this fight against this kind of market manipulation designed to undermine the right to free speech.
And the bottom line, that is what it is.
By the way, I know for a fact my name appeared on those lists multiple times, and not just for 2020, for a whole bunch of other things.
So I certainly appreciate knowing that my little words that fly out of that little piece of glass on my fingertips are that terrifying to the Biden administration or that terrifying to the censorious tech overlords
Who are working, and this is what I see is actually going on, is that to me, and perhaps your investigation has uncovered some of this, to me it seems like these groups are not watchdog groups, but they in fact actually act as cutouts for Democrat officials or cutouts for other censorious interests who want certain platforms censored or want certain individuals censored, and then they do so in the name of quote-unquote flagging misinformation and this sort of nonsense.
Yeah, that's right.
I think the government has outsourced its vast censorship enterprise because we caught them red-handed.
We caught them with their hand in the cookie jar and Missouri v. Biden have taken that case all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
You know, we should be getting a decision in that any day now.
And at the end of the day, you know, we obtained a preliminary injunction in Missouri v. Biden based on preliminary discovery.
So we're in the opening phases of that litigation.
The Supreme Court's likely to send that case back down to the trial court level for merits discovery, where we will continue to use the discovery process to root out the vast censorship enterprise and continue to build the wall of separation between tech and state.
But if there's a wall separating the left's ability to censor conservative voices from the government on big tech social media, they're just going to maneuver around the wall.
Again, that's that new front and it's a corporate pressure campaign and they're willing to solicit charitable contributions and then illegally convert those contributions to do it.
They're certainly willing to lie, cheat and steal by manipulating the algorithm rhythms on X to juxtapose that controversial speech with the prominent advertisers.
Think about this.
You were more likely to win the Powerball than to come up with the juxtaposition of that controversial speech next to the prominent advertisers on X. So X was was behaving appropriately in its, you know, its attempts to create a free, fair and open marketplace of ideas.
And that's what Media Matters ultimately hates.
That's exactly right.
Now, walk us through, we've got a couple of minutes before the break, walk us through, you said the Supreme Court, what's the current status at the Supreme Court?
We argued the case back in March.
Actually, we argued on the same day.
We were the case on the docket right before NRA v. Vulo.
That's the most recent case that the Supreme Court handed down, reaffirming that the First Amendment protects freedom of speech to include speech that promotes the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.
That was a 9-0 decision.
That's a major win for freedom lovers across the United States of America.
And if we can win that case, then we should be in good position to win Missouri v. Biden.
Like I said, they were argued on the same day in March.
We're just waiting on the Supreme Court to hand down its decision, and then we're likely to be back down at the trial court, and then we're going to get to merits discovery.
This case is going to go on, and we're going to use the discovery process to continue to unravel and root out that vast censorship enterprise.
It started at the White House Communications Office, but we know that it's moved to the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, CISA, within the Department of Homeland Security.
That's now the nerve center Of this Orwellian censorship enterprise.
So we've got a lot of work to do to continue to unravel it and ensure that safeguards are in place to prevent it from happening again as we move into this election cycle in 2024.
Well, and I remember specifically CISA and these other organizations were then attempting to create at the Department of Homeland Security something called the Disinformation Governance Bureau.
I was the one who initially blew the whistle on that thing and this Nina Yankovich just Wonderful character who they hired to run the thing and you know the whole thing blew up and finally people got involved and I'm sure she'll do very well at TikTok.
I'm sure she'll do very well with her viral videos and Harry Potter songs and I wish her nothing but the best.
A.G.
Bailey is with us.
We're going to go to a quick break.
We'll be right back talking about how we actually launch investigations into those that are doing the censorship and those who are abridging our freedom of speech.
Stay tuned.
tuned.
Be right back.
In my ear about the boring people at your office, I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
Jack Posobiec back live.
What can I say?
We need more attorney generals like AG Andrew Bailey from the great state of Missouri.
Mr. Chiragel, I'd love to ask you this question that, you know, it's something that we talk about here all the time.
And why Why is it that You don't seem to have a problem with actually taking action and doing something to further freedoms, using the power of your office to actually go after those who are violating civil rights.
But you see this, this issue, and I'm not asking to name names or anything like that, but we see a lot of Republicans, a lot of the time, they'd much rather just, you know, keep their powder dry and say, oh, things will work out in the end.
And then they end up not doing anything.
And the other side kind of just runs roughshod over everything.
What do you think is holding some of those guys back?
You know, it's speaking from personal experience.
You know, after college, I served in the United States Army, was a combat arms branch, platoon leader, armored cavalry, scout platoon leader, served in Iraq, did two deployments.
I've had the privilege of leading soldiers in combat.
You know, when I took a note to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, I was willing to put my life on the line to do that and was willing to take that fight to the enemies of freedom in the battlefields in the war on terror.
And I continue that fight now in the courtrooms in Missouri and across this nation.
And so I think having a warrior's fighting spirit, you know, there's a big difference between being kind of academic law school tough and being warrior tough.
And I'm from the show me state.
This is Missouri.
Results matter.
And so I want to fight and win.
You know, politicians do a lot of talking, but results matter.
And so that's why actually following through and executing on some of these strategic objectives is really critical for my position.
No, I couldn't agree more.
I mean, I keep saying this again and again.
We see what's happening to President Trump.
We see what's happening to folks like President Trump's advisor, Peter Navarro, who's currently behind bars.
People getting locked up for making memes.
They're trying to put Steve Bannon in prison for four months.
He's got a hearing tomorrow on this.
And I keep telling folks that the more you run away from the fight, the more the fight is going to come after you.
And I think with your experience actually having been in combat, you understand that you can't, if you've got an enemy that's committed to fighting you, they're not going to, they're not just going to sit down for a nice dinner and a chat.
Yeah.
You know, one of the first things you learn in tactics in the army is that when you're caught in a close and near ambush, your best bet is to assault through the ambush.
Right.
I mean, maybe your audacity scares the enemy, but at a minimum, you kill as many as bad guys before they, they kill you.
And so, yeah, if you're in a near ambush, you just assault through the objective.
You certainly do not start retreating because then they're just gonna shoot you in the back.
Yep.
Look, and I keep saying this, that if we want to win, we have to find folks who have an aggressive action bias.
So the aggressive action bias is, look, we understand there's lots of philosophy, there's lots of reasons for why we find ourselves in the situation we are right now.
Economics are crazy.
Joe Biden's barely there on a day-to-day basis.
But none of that discussion is ever actually going to change our circumstances.
And it turns out as well that Republicans, and I get it, right?
I get that conservatives have a limited government mindset.
And they have this idea that, well, if we use the government, then, you know, that's kind of playing into, you know, the big government, you know, the big government mentality.
But I don't think it is because I think the investigative power of government, the judicial power of government, the oversight power of government, these are legitimate uses and legitimate means for the use of government.
This is the reason we have courts.
This is the reason that we have the legal system in the first place, the actual legal system, not the one that we find in Alvin Bragg's courtroom.
And I think, you know, as Republican attorneys general, we need to survey the battlefield, understand the strategic objectives, understand the fronts that we're facing.
I mean, the lawfare is not individualized cases.
It's not Alvin Bragg's case and Jack Smith's case and the case in Georgia.
These are all a coordinated effort by Biden's crooked Department of Justice I mean, this is election interference at its worst.
We know this because the Department of Justice deployed their third-ranking official, Matthew Colangelo, from a high-paying job in the DOJ down to a lower-paying job in Alvin Bragg's office in the state of New York to actually lead the trial court prosecution in Manhattan.
This is a coordinated effort and it's part of the same strategic effort to censor conservative voices, let's silence any voice in opposition, remove their political candidates, and then buy off their votes.
Look at the student loan quote-unquote debt cancellation program, which again, I take that personally.
I paid for my school in blood, sweat, and tears.
There's nothing free.
But what Biden's doing, he knows it's illegal.
He knows it's unconstitutional.
The Supreme Court's already told him that.
He's trying to buy votes.
It's election interference.
He's trying to pay off the electorate, silence any voice in opposition, and use the, bend the rules, break the rules of the criminal justice system.
To remove a political opponent because he's scared.
They can't win on the merits, so they have to lie, cheat, and steal.
That's why we're using the full force of the state of Missouri to fight back with an investigation into the collusive relationship between the DOJ, Matthew Colangelo, and these illicit witch hunt state prosecutions.
We're fighting back against big tech censorship in Missouri v. Biden.
Fighting back against the corporate pressure campaigns to censor in the Media Matters case and have sued President Biden to stop this illicit attempt to buy votes.
We were just in court yesterday arguing in favor of an injunction to put a stop to this quote-unquote student debt cancellation program.
At what point do we call that a constitutional crisis?
President Biden is out there on the stump bragging about how he's defying, willfully defying an order of the United States Supreme Court.
If any conservative did that, the left would be apoplectic.
Well, and again, there are numerous states, by the way, as you just said, that have on the books a felony to offer to pay or cause to be paid money or anything of value to a person to influence the person's vote.
So as you say, the student loan debt relief would obviously fall under that if we're going to have this new expansive version of our statutes.
I argued in the opening of the show today that since the FBI just admitted the Hunter Biden laptops is and always was completely true.
The fact that Tony Blinken was running around with these 51 Intel officials to put together this letter, which we now know was false.
How is that not election interference and an illegal in-kind contribution of the same type?
You wanna talk about 34 violations, you know, some if hush money payments, quote unquote, are election interference, then what do you call that letter from the 51 officials based on a laptop that we know was actually true?
Last minute, Andrew Bailey, Attorney General of Missouri.
Yeah, well, couldn't agree more.
Look, we uncovered that evidence that the FBI was in possession of Hunter Biden's laptop one year before the election and FBI agent Elvis Chan was meeting with Big Tech in the heart of Silicon Valley with increased frequency in the days, weeks and months leading up to the election.
It's time to fight back.
the seed and then germinated the seed that there would be a Russian disinformation story related to Hunter Biden.
Then Big Tech was all too willing to suppress that story the day it broke.
There were secret communications between the FBI, the deep state and Big Tech.
On the eve of that breaking, we still need access to those records.
We're going to keep fighting and hold the wrongdoers accountable.
It's time to fight back.
We can't sit idly behind.
I want all the access to this.
How did the FBI be involved in interfering directly in our election?
And how can you say the election was legitimate if they did that?
