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	We have Jamie Raskin in there accusing us of worshipping Trump.
	Worshipping as a convicted felon.
	He is a convicted felon.
	Well, yeah, so is George Floyd.
	And you all too.
	The media worship George Floyd.
	Democrats worship George Floyd.
	There were riots burning down the I have provided the committee with Special Counsel Herr's report, why the Special Counsel testified for more than five hours, and why we have gone beyond precedent to provide the committee with the transcripts of the Special Counsel's interview with the President.
	But we have made clear that we will not provide audio recordings from which the transcripts that you already have Hunter Biden just left the courthouse where six men and six women have been seated in an American First, the first criminal trial for a child of a sitting president.
	Those jurors were selected after attorneys on both sides questioned them about their views on gun rights, addiction and politics.
	The president's only surviving son is charged with three felony counts related to his alleged illegal purchase and possession of a firearm in 2018.
	Sources say President Biden is expected to unveil his most aggressive action on immigration yet, planning to sign an executive order that effectively shuts down the border for asylum seekers when migrant crossings surge.
	Georgia Appeals Court, Court of Appeals officially setting October 4th as the tentative hearing date in former President Donald Trump's effort to disqualify District Attorney Fannie Willis in the Georgia election interference case.
	He created an election threats task force, Particularly because we were so worried.
	And as you say, this is not only about elected election officials, not only about appointed election officials.
	About ordinary Americans who show up as poll watchers on a single day during the year to run our elections.
	Our democracy can't work if those people fear threats that are urged against them, or if there's actual violence against them.
	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, here live, Washington, D.C.
	Today is June 4th, 2024.
	Anno Domini.
	Today is the anniversary, the sacred anniversary, 40 years, 40 years ago today, June 4th, excuse not 40 years, 25, 25 years ago today, June 4th, 1989, 25 years ago today, June 4th, 1989, 35 years, 35 years since the day
	the Chinese Communist Party slaughtered all of those people in that square and the seeds of globalism were born.
	The seeds of the globalist regime that we see played out before us, Merrick Garland, Merrick Garland and his Kabuki theater.
	If you think Merrick Garland is actually going to go down because of something that happened up on that stage right there, up in that hearing, then you're not paying attention.
	People are stuck in this a few good men fallacy that if you get someone to admit something on the stand, that you just get justice.
	The justice just happens.
	That's not how it works anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
	No, the power differentials are how the country works because the system has changed.
	The system has shifted.
	This isn't the 1980s anymore.
	It's not the 1990s anymore.
	If you control the system, you can get away with anything.
	Let's say Merrick Garland goes and commits perjury to Congress.
	He's already telling them that he's refusing.
	He is refusing with alacrity.
	To respond to their subpoenas.
	Peter Navarro is behind bars right now for this.
	They're trying to put Steve Bannon behind bars on Thursday over this.
	Merrick Garland goes up there and says, I don't need to respond to your subpoena.
	I don't have to.
	Because Merrick Garland is the one who's in control of the system.
	Merrick Garland's own number three.
	Was the guy who prosecuted Donald J. Trump.
	Steve Bannon is also going to be brought before Judge Juan Marchand in his New York case.
	So just to understand folks, it's all connected.
	Even if he goes up there and admits it, he never will.
	But even if he did, what's going to happen?
	What is he going to prosecute himself for contempt?
	Of course not.
	You need to wake up.
	The way to beat this system is to take action and take power.
	All of these types.
	Merrick Garland.
	Jack Smith.
	These are the ones who can, should, and hopefully will be behind bars when we win.
	Because the name of the game, folks, is reciprocity.
	It's called reciprocity.
	It's called that which is done to us will be done back to you ten times.
	And you know what they say, folks, about payback.
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	I know the truth what really went down.
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	Speaking of Mike Benz, a man who knows all about, who's had more skills perish than most people will ever have in a lifetime.
	Benz, I gotta get your take on Merrick Garland's testimony up there.
	I think there's a lot of kabuki theater, but I also think there might be a few nuggets that we can glean from this, specifically talking as well about this election threat task force.
	What does he mean when he's talking about this?
	Yeah, the first thing that just has to be said up top, even before directly answering the question, is that these kinds of hearings have to have teeth attached to them in the form of threats to defund the Justice Department.
	Watching Merrick Garland up there with the smirk on his face, feeling as impervious as Jeffrey Epstein walking into a babysitter meeting with FBI cameras, knowing that nothing will happen to him, is absolutely infuriating to a hundred million Americans watching this in real time.
	The man apparently has nothing to fear from lying in the same way that Tony Fauci has nothing to fear from lying because the only way to actually enforce perjury for those lies is to have the Justice Department, his own agency, convict him.
	So at this point we are left with basically no choice but to defund it and cut these people off from their salaries, cut them off from their resources, This is the power that the House has in the GOP, but then moving on to this new, you know, the new hoax, same as the old hoax, on this election threats task force.
	This is a predicate by the Justice Department to say that anybody who organizes in-person or online around election fraud concerns is effectively a criminal, is effectively a domestic terrorist, because if you create a presumption of insecurity about the voting process, then that puts the people administering The election process in danger because you're angry at them.
	What might you do to them?
	And so boom, just like that, now the FBI is on your ass because you said you didn't trust the voting process.
	And this is huge.
	Look, I remember in 2016, myself and a few other people put up a poll watching program basically for polls in key swing states, key areas of those states like Philadelphia, where I'm from and where you're also from the area.
	There's, you know, a huge backlash from the DNC at the time saying, how dare you do this?
	We also said we were going to do opinion polls, exit polls, all these different things.
	Didn't matter.
	They said Republicans doing anything with election integrity or election interference, trying to observe election interference was terrifying.
	And they said we were threatening and intimidating voters.
	So to me, this is a bright, flashing red light that they are, number one, terrified of the 2024 election, but also that any efforts to direct people to look into these ballots, to understand what's going on, And by the way, this, of course, isn't just going to be on November 5th.
	This is going to be the ballot drop boxes.
	This is going to be, if anyone wants to go there, look, they already went to take down 2000 mules.
	They went after that.
	Anyone who's involved in trying to figure out how our elections actually work is now going to become a target of the DOJ.
	Yeah, 2024, it's going to be like a Michael Bay sequel.
	You know how every sequel in like a Transformer movie gets Bigger and crazier with like more explosions and car crashes even though the plot is exactly the same.
	That is exactly what 2024 is going to be around election fraud with 2020.
	2020 was a total disaster.
	No transparency.
	The result flips overnight.
	Never happened before in American history.
	Seven states all flip.
	Goes from a blowout win to a nail-biter loss because of magic midnight mail-ins flying in with no signature verification check.
	We had to suffer through people, poll counters, putting pizza boxes over the windows so that outside bystanders can't watch them watch votes.
	Who will watch the watchers?
	You know, in Singapore, they do it right out in the open.
	You can watch them count.
	But here, in order to maintain the secrecy that is at the heart of effectively being able to steal something, any attempt to watch the watchers is going to be translated by this totally corrupt and crooked justice department as some sort of violent threat which therefore necessitates the destruction of all oversight of of the actual counting of the votes and i've got up i've got out some of his initial press conference on this a while back
	they were and keep in mind this is garland who's gone has gone after states like georgia who have actually worked to secure or make more secure their election processes since 2020 back in 2021 look listen what garland said garland said the georgia law court Quote, makes it harder for people to vote and the complaint being filed by the Department of Justice.
	Remember he filed a complaint of the DOJ against the state of Georgia for wanting to run their own elections, which is their constitutional right, the way that they saw fit.
	Garland filed a complaint against the state of Georgia.
	Merrick Garland may be the most corrupt official in all of Washington.
	the color of law of this Federal Voting Rights Act, he is now potentially even gonna be looking at red states or any place that there's a red administration, red infrastructure that's controlling one of these swing states.
	Mike Benz. - Merrick Garland may be the most corrupt official in all of Washington.
	One of the lessons from these past few months is that the Justice Department really is like the Strait of Gibraltar.
	It's this narrow strait that you have to pass through for the whole rest of government to function.
	And what you just laid out there with Merrick Garland, not just creating these fake FBI attack dog teams to basically indict anyone who has a question about the election, but then effectively rigging the election by stopping states from being able to put basic checks on the validity of votes.
	They're juggling 12 different balls of not just rigging the elections, but also rigging the election process by rounding up basically every influential voice in media or in the political arena itself.
	Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Clark, lawyers, accountants, valets, even the Trump valet rolled up by his goons.
	This one little strait, the entire passage of all of the critical cargo and all of the merchant ships, all of the battleships, they all sail through this one little narrow strait of the Justice Department and it is the most corrupt plot of dirt in all of D.C.
	and that is not for lack of competition.
	This is truly a choke point in our entire governmental system.
	And that's why, of course, Merrick Garland has been there.
	And it's very clear, by the way, that the reason that he targets conservatives, the reason he targets Republicans the way that he does, again, this was a guy who thought during the Obama administration, the waiting hours, that he was going to be a shoo-in for the Supreme Court.
	And who was it?
	It was the Republican Senate that held it over and said, we are not going to put forward this process until after the election.
	The election went the way that it did.
	Hillary Clinton lost.
	And so in his mind, in his mind, all of the Republicans, this is a reactionary response that we're seeing.
	All of the Republicans, all of the conservatives, the pro-lifers, the 75-year-old woman who's going to jail for two years, ordered by a D.C. judge.
	All of the reason that you're seeing him dropping the hammer on all of these people is because he has a personal vendetta that he is taking out.
	And don't tell me otherwise, because we can see it happen every single day in these courtrooms.
	Thank you.
	Merrick Garland is a crook and he's always been a crook and a cover-up artist.
	Going back to the 1990s when he was involved in PatCon, the political hit job to round up patriots in the PatCon conspiracy FBI architecture in the early 1990s.
	Going back to his cover-up of the investigation around the Oklahoma City bombing, something the media lionized for him, but I think the American people, if they ever looked into it, would have a lot of open questions about.
	Why the hell did Merrick Garland protect Andy Strassmire, for example?
	This guy has been a janitor for the intelligence state, has been a janitor for high levels of power in Washington since virtually the day he stepped foot in the Justice Department.
	And the fact that he's in charge of it now, and overseeing the most tyrannical, corrupt, delegitimizing destruction of justice in this country, is a stain this country will never wash off.
	And by the way, here's another thing that, you know, people say, well, history will look back unkindly.
	History will write this way.
	I said, really?
	History is just going to do that all by itself?
	Because I see the historians and the writers and the reporters and the journalists right now who, you know, Journalism is the first draft of history, etc.
	They don't seem to be looking back disfavorably at all.
	They're cheering all of this on.
	And so, this is why I always tell people, you must act.
	You can't play this game of sitting back saying, oh, the snake's gonna eat its own tail.
	Guess what?
	It took the Soviet Union 80 years to fall under its own power.
	Today's the 35th anniversary of Tiananmen Square.
	CCP is still going strong.
	Still going strong, even after the slaughter of thousands of students 35 years ago today.
	So don't tell me that this stuff just goes away by itself.
	It doesn't.
	And the history books are going to be written by one side, either us or them.
	My question is, are you going to step up and do the hard work to take action, or do you just want to sit and watch Merrick Garland's TV show?
	Be right back.
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	Mike Benz, walk me through this idea that history, they say, well, history is gonna be written by the winners.
	OK, maybe, but certainly not in some instances.
	But if we want to write our history, if we want history to look back on this period the way that we view it now, is it just going to happen all by itself?
	Are we just going to be able to kick back and say, oh, history will take care of it?
	Don't worry, folks.
	Is that how things work in the real world?
	Well, there is a white pill on this right now, which is just yesterday.
	The Washington Post, it was reported, had a meeting where the big bold headline that everyone reported coming out of the staff meeting was that the head of the Washington Post told the staff, nobody's reading your stuff.
	And, you know, I tweeted that that's the journalistic equivalent of you look fat in this dress.
	You know, this is like the thing you're not supposed to say to someone, even though they all know it's true, and it's completely devastating to the psyche.
	But it's true.
	The fact is, the Washington Post, according to that meeting, its readership has halved in the past several years, likely owing to the fact that X is exploding in popularity with more monthly average users than ever.
	All new functionality that allows you to basically post entire articles in order to do entire live shows all on the platform.
	You have the rise of Rumble as an alternative to YouTube.
	You have some of the slackening of some of the terms of service policies at Facebook following in Elon's footsteps.
	You have a sort of rebound of some of the financial architecture that was imploded for free speech media.
	In 2019-2020, lawsuits aside, and all of this is basically causing a replay of 2016.
	This is so, I mean, getting back to your question about whether the winners write history, the fact is, you know, who determines what's read in history is not just by the winners at the time, but by the winners at the moment.
	As long as an archive is preserved, As the winners of one period lose to winners of the next period, that history can be revisited.
	And what we saw was lie after lie after lie by a corrupt and intelligence-laced media, a kind of clockwork orange propaganda program instead of a genuine free and healthy media ecosystem in this country.
	And one of the magic phenomena of the freeing of speech by social media And the internet has been an escape valve from the rigged history of the four corners of the tightly controlled media.
	And so that is why freedom of speech on the internet is absolutely essential.
	This is why Elon, you know, he was the Leroy Jenkins, you know, he put the team on his back and, you know, fell out of the sky.
	And that is why we have to support the people who are in the arena.
	Flaws and all.
	You know, you mentioned Steve Bannon earlier, I think, in a segment, and he had a great line about Trump, which is that, you know, he may be an imperfect vessel, but he's a heat-seeking missile or something like that.
	And that is true.
	The media is going to try to cut down all of us, one by one.
	And if you don't stand up for the people in the arena, warts and all, flaws and all, then No one will be left to come for you.
	We can withstand this together, but we hang together or we hang alone.
	Precisely.
	I have that tweet that's going kind of viral where I sort of mentioned that and they said, how can you support a convicted felon?
	And I said the same way, I support 56 traitors, the signers of the Declaration of Independence.
	And that's exactly what was said.
	Either we hang together or we hang alone.
	Many of those signers, by the way, didn't even make it through the war.
	A lot of them were killed.
	A lot of them were tortured.
	They had their families killed.
	Some of them had their children killed on these British prison ships that were in the harbors in New York and Philadelphia and Delaware Bay.
	And so people have to understand that it's action.
	The Founding Fathers didn't just sign a piece of paper and America magically sprang forth and became this wonderful country that we all love and we have these great systems that we came up with.
	No, no.
	No, they had to fight.
	They had to actually take a stand.
	They had to say that we are going to do something to fight back, and they had to sacrifice.
	They had the sacrifice of Valley Forge.
	They had the sacrifice of going and taking the risk of crossing the Delaware.
	Remember, Washington and the Hessians could have killed Washington and the entire leadership of the Continental Army in one night, if the Continental Congress Congress didn't want him to do this.
	There's so many single points in those years of the Revolutionary War where the entire thing could have gone awry.
	But my point is, if you do not act, you will lose everything.
	One thing I would just caution there, though, is that Merrick Garland has a specialty about arresting people who quote the Constitution.
	Yes, exactly!
	I'm not even joking.
	Like, they literally do.
	If you go back into the OKC records and the PatCon records, You'll see that Merrick Garland and his FBI buddies were basically using the predicate that anyone quoting the Tree of Liberty quote as plotting a domestic terrorist attack.
	And they were using that as infiltration.
	In fact, when the FBI was penetrating the Oath Keepers, this came out after the Bundy Ranch Affair, the same Oath Keepers that they would mass infiltrate with federal informants and then take down with January 6th.
	They had informants giving out pocket constitutions in the Oath Keepers during the Bundy Ranch Affair.
	You can even, you can FOIA, you know, this stuff.
	It's all, that's all public.
	So these people are specialists in trying to get people to, you know, citing that those constitutional properties and predicates that you mentioned as being, you know, as being effectively domestic terrorists and using that
	At least as a, uh, as grounds to be able to get a, a, a warrant to tap all of your phones, to read all of your private messages, to, uh, to get access to your, your text messages and emails through their third party providers.
	And so, you know, the least people can do is talk about it, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it.
	Cause the fact is, is history is written, not just by one author.
	It's written by a collective of millions of voices who all add their own unique piece of fabric to the tapestry of that collective history.
	So the least you can do is tweet about it.
	Make a make a rumble video about it.
	You know, make a friggin interpretive TikTok dance to it if you need to, but add your voice to build that spirit ball because that's the motor engine of all change.
	Is that what you're going to be doing, Ben?
	So you're going to be doing interpretive TikTok dances of the truth?
	You bet your butt I am.
	I'm going to be doing rap battles.
	Yes.
	Rap battles, musical interpretations.
	You know, we're going to have beach volleyball with, I don't know, with bass cheerleaders.
	Anything you can do that gets viral attention to a good message moves the ball down the field.
	You don't need to hit a home run.
	You don't need to have a million followers or a million views on a video.
	If you get 10 views on some piece of content that you produce to juice this, then you've just done 10 times more than somebody who rests on their butt and did nothing.
	What you're talking about, it almost sounds like populist information warfare, as though the populists should use information warfare against the tyrants.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I think that that is one of those realities that in some sense is inescapable in the sense that the culture of war, so to speak, begets culture warfare, and the use of information so to speak, begets culture warfare, and the use of information is sort of a tete-a-tete of people on various
	But frankly, this is about singing the song of your nation, singing the song of your people, singing the song of prosperity and greatness, and singing it as loud as you can, in every medium, in every message, until the whole world is singing it with you.
	Look, this is about humanity.
	It's about freedom.
	It's about our future.
	I'm all for it.
	Populist information warfare.
	Look, they've got, look at their great bastions of information warfare.
	The Washington Post is going down.
	Why do you think that's happening, folks?
	The failing New York Times.
	CNN losing ratings.
	By the way, CNN lost their contracts for most of the major airports already.
	You think it hasn't happened in effect?
	It's having an effect right now.
	And even Bezos, for as little love as he has for Trump, even he is trying to do what he can to stem the bleeding over at the Washington Post.
	So don't think for a second that the things that we've all been doing, that Ben's, the Human Events audience, the War Room audience, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, everybody out there, Rumble, Truth Social, all of this is having a massive effect.
	Ben's, where can people go to follow you, man?
	X at Mike Ben cyber at Mike Ben cyber.
	I post like 30 times a day.
	Mostly just kind of making jokes and jacks.
	Jack, where's Jack?
	No, I'm joking.
	I basically cover all this very extensively on my timeline.
	Worst reply guy on the internet.
	Absolute worst reply guy on the internet.
	I know when I see Benz in there and I'm just like, oh man, this is gonna be horrible.
	And then there's gonna be like a piano recital.
	It's like, oh gosh, oh gosh, what's coming next?
	Go follow Mike Benz.
	He's a great guy, folks.
	Deepa Fry joins us in a second. - Jack, where is Jack?
	Where is Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.
	In the days since Trump's guilty verdict, we have seen a number of polls come out.
	Is it actually just too soon to know what the impact of this verdict really is on the 2024 presidential outcome?
	No, it's actually, it's soon enough to know that it's not going to significantly alter the results at this moment.
	That the gains that Trump had made among union members, Hispanics, young African-American men are significant and they're holding.
	That Biden's gains among middle-aged female suburban voters, those are holding.
	The assumption was 90 days ago, That if Donald Trump is found guilty, the bottom would drop out of his support, and that has not happened.
	He has weakened.
	People have started to reconsider whether or not they support him, but there's been no dramatic shift, and that in itself is a very big story.
	So that's Frank Luntz, no Trump lover there, coming out and saying that his focus group didn't show there was no shift in the voting patterns after this, after the conviction.
	And then, he even mentioned this later, he said that actually, when asked about it, people said, well, we're pretty sure that this is what most businesses do, that every business kind of does stuff like this.
	And the reason that you're going after it is political.
	Viva Frye, everyone's favorite attorney from Rumble, joins us now to explain.
	What is it about this case, there's so much here, from a public opinion perspective though, why is it that people are saying that?
	That it really is just something that normal businesses do all the time?
	Well, I'll say former attorney, and I was only a civil litigator out of Quebec to begin with, but that doesn't mean I don't have half a functioning brain.
	You can see crap.
	I mean, you can identify crap when you see it.
	I don't know what businesses do every day, day in and day out.
	I can tell you as an attorney, and I did a lot of corporate stuff, they don't always do things on the up and up, but that doesn't matter.
	People are able to identify political persecution when they see political persecution.
	Not the first time someone has signed an NDA.
	It's not the first time a politician has paid hush money, what they're calling hush money, as though that's a crime.
	Schwarzenegger did it.
	John Edwards did it.
	There was another one who was a recent Democrat, I forget his name now.
	It's done over and over again.
	And it's not a crime in and of itself.
	What is a crime is actually what Hillary Clinton actually did, which was use campaign funds to provide fake opposition research that was built on known lies, slip it to the intelligence so they could then leak it to the media who can then publish it.
	And then they can go and use that publication to investigate and spy on their political opponent.
	That's actual election interference.
	And, you know, they get a slap on the wrist.
	Everybody knew this case was bogus from the beginning, and anybody who followed that trial understood and really appreciated, like, ate it, digested it.
	It was bogus from the beginning.
	The judge was corrupt through and through.
	We all now know Trump was gagged so that he couldn't hammer home the fact that the judge's daughter was raising millions of bucks for an authentic PR firm, for Adam Schiff, another confirmed liar,
	So everybody saw it in real time, and this conviction, other than being, you know, a very devastating thing for a purported free and democratic society, other than being an outright international humiliation, everybody who has half a reasonable brain knows it is what it is, and the only people purporting, you know, still maintaining that this actually means anything are the liars from the get-go.
	That was a long-winded answer, sorry about that.
	Well, and my other favorite part of this is that, and we don't have the clip, but Michael Knowles has tested my theory when he was on with Piers Morgan.
	And I had this theory for a couple of days.
	I think I said it, when did I first say this?
	Probably last Friday, the day after it happened, I said, here's, I'm telling you, I'm calling this, Go to any liberal, and I mean even professionals, and ask them to explain the charges.
	To explain what Donald Trump has been charged.
	And don't let them off the hook.
	This is key.
	Don't let them off the hook.
	Don't just say 34 felonies.
	Don't just say hush money payments.
	Actually engage with them and get them to explain to you the theory of the case.
	Michael Knowles attempted this with a liberal on the Piers Morgan Show and she completely fell apart.
	Why is it that they can't even explain the basic legal theory here?
	Well, I should say the theory isn't that basic, is it?
	No, but I mean, I could steal, man, the answer and provide the answer.
	Why?
	The answer's simple.
	They're stupid, they're ignorant, they're corrupt, and or they're liars.
	It's only one of those four reasons.
	And the problem is when you're all four at once, it means you can't even justify your own lie.
	Adam Schiff, he's a skilled pathological liar.
	He probably would have been able to answer that question.
	I don't know who the woman was, Francesca, when she's asked, what were the underlying crimes?
	I could answer that question.
	The alleged underlying crimes were a campaign finance violations which you know the judge conveniently did not allow Trump to have an expert testify to because there were none the FEC investigated it and concluded no campaign finance violations because it wasn't done with campaign finances unlike Hillary Clinton The other one was tax fraud, where the liberals, they're lazy, stupid, corrupt, and dishonest.
	They didn't even listen or watch the trial in real time.
	I did.
	I was watching it on inner city press, live tweeting it.
	The judge said, you don't have to unanimously agree on the three potential underlying crimes because you have to have your predicate act.
	In order to jack this stupid misdemeanor up to a 34-charge felony, in order to bypass the fact that, as a misdemeanor, this would have been time-barred by the statute of limitations, you don't have- He said, the judge says, you don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three potential predicate acts this 34-charge felony was based on, but it's one of three.
	Campaign finance laws, tax laws, and I always forget the third now.
	Darn it, I'm gonna forget the third.
	Doesn't matter.
	But I could answer that question.
	I think it was federal tax laws and state tax laws.
	And then the judge says to the jury, and he doesn't even have to have paid less in taxes in order for this to be tax fraud.
	I mean, I could answer that question because I'm reasonably intelligent, reasonably up to date, and actually followed the trial.
	But they are Dishonest scoundrels who just repeat talking points with no understanding of what they're actually repeating.
	They're useless talking heads.
	That's what they are, and that's what they'll forever be known as.
	But this trial, it's a stain.
	I mean, it's not that New York needed any more stains after Engeron.
	You know, not that the system needed any more stains after the RICO out of Georgia and the corruption that was unveiled there.
	Except it wasn't RICO from Trump.
	It was RICO from Fannie Willis and her boyfriend Nathan Wade colluding with the Biden administration to bring these charges.
	But it's a stain on the justice system.
	And you're going to now have the Putins of the world looking here and saying, you're going to lecture me on prosecuting my political rivals?
	We all saw what you just did there.
	And it's even worse.
	So, you know, bugger off.
	Yeah.
	Having talked to my wife about this, even all the way back during the Mar-a-Lago, initial Mar-a-Lago raid almost two years ago, where I think we were actually coming up on the two year anniversary of that, actually, that, you know, she says, look, in Eastern Europe and that part of the world, that this is just business as usual.
	There are parts of the world that this is their political system every day.
	But what made the American experiment so incredible, and what made the Western system so incredible, was that this wasn't our system.
	That we decided to move away from this world of political machinations, of political power dynamics determining what becomes against the law, what becomes for the law, that everyone be held to the same standard.
	A very basic Seemingly very basic statement, but it turns out one that is incredibly complex when you have a country and when you have a group of people who are willing to abuse said system.
	They will stop at nothing.
	Like, they've broken that glass.
	And now that... I forget what documentary it was from.
	It had to do with the genocide in Rwanda.
	And the underlying theory was that these child soldiers, they don't kill a lot of people because it means nothing to them.
	They kill a lot of people after the first one because they try to make it mean nothing to them.
	There's something of an analogy here where they've crossed the Rubicon.
	And in order to now normalize... I think that was Shake Hands with the Devil, by the way.
	It was, if you could give me the reference, because I saw it years ago, I was like, I never forgot that.
	No, I really think it is.
	That's Roméo Dallaire.
	Roméo Dallaire wrote the book, Shake Hands with the Devil, and I believe they turned that into a, he was the UN Peacekeeping General who was there, also Canadian, and In a really terrible situation, obviously.
	Yeah, no, it just happened.
	I actually emailed him once years ago.
	I've been trying to find it since because I keep referencing it, but I couldn't remember where I heard it from.
	But like, they crossed the Rubicon and in order to try to normalize the first impeachment, they go with another impeachment.
	And then in order to try to normalize the second impeachment, they go with trying to indict the president.
	And then to try to normalize the abnormal, you continue to try to indict the president's lawyers.
	You try to take them off ballots.
	And then you do all these things, and you have to rationalize the degeneracy to yourself.
	And so the only way to rationalize it is to do more of it and say, well, it wasn't so bad what we did there, because look where we are now, and that's just the way things are.
	That's just how bad this guy is.
	People are making the joke, Jack, that like, you know, I left Canada, Only to come to America to see it turn into socialist Venezuela.
	We're not there yet, and there's a whole hell of a lot of pushback.
	And I do think there is something of a great awakening.
	To quote Alex Jones, I'm listening to his book on audiobook when I go jogging now, but people are realizing it.
	And I think at some point they're going to say enough is enough, and they're going to vote accordingly, hopefully.
	Right back in one second, Viva Frye.
	We're talking about shaking hands with the devil.
	Stay tuned, be right back.
	...in my ear about the boring people at your office.
	I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Pazovic.
	Jack, what's up?
	We're back with Viva Frye.
	We're talking about... I mentioned the Rwanda documentaries.
	There's Shake Hands with the Devil, Ghosts of Rwanda is the other one.
	Fantastic documentaries if you want to see these things to understand what evil is like in its purest form.
	And that guy, Remy Lelaire, is someone who clearly saw it up front.
	By the way, since today is the June 4th anniversary of Tiananmen Square, I always love to remind people that who was it that sold the machetes to the Rwandans?
	Oh yes, the Chinese Communist Party.
	Of course, they had their own little, gave them a good deal.
	They had their little piece in that as well.
	But let me go through this theory of the case, this child soldier theory that you're discussing, because I keep hearing people say, again and again, they say, oh, Trump, you know, the sentencing, they'll give him, you know, probation, they'll give him community service or something.
	I made a joke about it.
	I said they should give him four years community service at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
	That was a good one.
	Or potentially, some are saying a lifetime sentence.
	I'm just, you know, I don't know.
	Some are saying.
	And under this theory, though, that you've postulated, it wouldn't just be a slap on the wrist.
	They would actually have to put him behind bars.
	Walk me through that.
	Well, I say that they've crossed so many Rubicons now that they can't not cross this one.
	There's the logistics issue to it that I think might be determinant, but it's not going to be a slap on the wrist.
	I mean, I was picking the brain of Dershowitz because I listened to him as well to make sure I understand things.
	It's not going to be a slap on the wrist.
	You don't go through a five-week trial of the 34 felony charges the first time ever that you've done a theory of this, let alone on the president.
	You don't go through all of that.
	to then say, here's $5,000 and a day community service.
	So they've got to come up with something that is going to be sufficiently punitive, but not overly punitive, where Judge Juan Marchand, corrupt as he is, gets overturned by the Court of Appeal.
	So I don't know what they're going to do, but they're frothing at the mouth unhinged.
	And my one theory also that I've been positing for a while now is that they're trying to facilitate a cataclysmic incident involving Trump.
	And so even though they say, oh, one day in jail, One day, and we'll figure it out with Secret Service.
	Fine.
	What they're trying to do, and I've been convinced of this since compelling Trump to show up for the Georgia mugshot, it was a humiliation ritual on the one hand, but I sincerely believe it's about also exposing him to the range of unhinged lunatics who now view this man as the existential threat if he gets elected, and so increase the likelihood of something horrific happening.
	By maximizing his exposure for purely unnecessary reasons.
	Make him show up for a six-week trial in New York, drive in and out every day with supporters on the one hand, but rabid lunatics on the other.
	And then they come up with the Disgrace Act to strip convicted felon federal servants of Secret Service protection.
	I mean, they're telling you what they're doing.
	And then they sick the FBI on a Mar-a-Lago raid with with plainclothes officers carrying box cutters, knowing that Secret Service is there.
	They are trying to facilitate a cataclysmic incident, a cataclysmic clash, or facilitate some lunatic, you know, going not postal, but going baseball, like what happened with Scalise in DC.
	So that's what I think that they're trying to do.
	And so whatever way they can do that, increase the odds, however unlikely, that's part and parcel of the plan.
	You know, it also strikes me that I would be remiss if I didn't mention that about two years ago, also, you did an incredible, very well-received pop-up podcast on the trial of Steve Bannon, which I think it was six, seven episodes.
	It was just incredible the way you put it together.
	We had you on.
	I was guest hosting War Room while Steve was absent.
	Now we see that the sentencing for that may come around again because he's just, his appeal has been kicked back at the, I believe, the circuit level.
	There's a hearing that's going to be taking place in two days time in Washington, D.C.
	I wonder if you've done any analysis on this or I could pick your brain just a little bit.
	Do you think that given everything you saw during that case, that the judge Well, I think the Navarro precedent now has certainly increased the odds of another alternative, which is going to be jail him.
	or do you think that we could get another type of decision this Thursday? - Well, I think the Navarro precedent now has certainly increased the odds of another alternative, which is going to be jail him.
	And look, it's not a coincidence that all of these things are happening at the same time.
	Navarro being jailed, Bannon potentially, I think, will be jailed because it's six months out of the election.
	The attack on Alex Jones and the attempt to take him down.
	The most vocal populist voice out there who they still blame for having gotten Trump elected in 2016.
	So there are new factors to consider here.
	And I'm not so optimistic for Bannon anymore.
	They need his voice off the air like they need all the other voices off the air because they're implementing the 2020 election fortification 2.0.
	You know, change the laws, change the rules like they've done to facilitate E. Jean Carroll suing Trump, control the flow of information, shutting down the big voices, and the easiest way to do that?
	Send them off to jail.
	The only problem is that might actually amplify the voices regardless of who they do it to because some of the Jan Sixers have been vocal from jail and some of the people that they've jailed as... Go for it.
	Oh no, the one question though, and you watched the trial, I watched the trial, that judge in Bannon's case, he wasn't a Wan-Marshan.
	He wasn't someone who was totally in the tank.
	He was a Trump appointee.
	That being said though, to what you just said, I think makes sense.
	Would he be willing to break with precedent now that Peter Navarro has already set a precedent, number one, for being in prison, that's been done at the DC Circuit level, and then number two, that Navarro has already had his appeals denied on similar grounds to Bannon?
	Well, courage is contagious.
	To some extent, so is cowardice, and so is corruption.
	So I won't impute any intentions to the judge.
	But it's not an accident that after Colorado took Trump off the ballot, Maine decided to do it.
	I forget the other states that did it as well.
	It's not an accident that after I want to call on the nipple judge there.
	New York nipple judge Engelron gagged Trump.
	What's her face?
	Chutkin gagged Trump.
	Juan Marchand gagged Trump.
	And so now that you see it, on the one hand, it's empowerment in a negative sense, and it's also political pressure in a cowardice sense.
	The judge might say, well, I can't set a different precedent with Bannon right now.
	It's only four months.
	We can't wait forever.
	And his likelihood of success on the appeal is that much less now, given the other precedent.
	So just go serve your time.
	I wouldn't place bets on it.
	We're talking about someone's freedom right now for a bloody contempt of congressional subpoena.
	Rubbish.
	For which, I don't know how many people have been convicted, let alone sentenced.
	Which, by the way, we're just about out of time, but I have to also mention that Merrick Garland is on You know, on TV right now, flaunting the fact that he's refusing subpoenas from the very same Congress that he's got Peter Navarro in jail for, and his own department is threatening to send Steve Bannon in jail for.
	Viva Frye, I really appreciate your time, man.
	Honored to have you on.
	Where can people follow you?
	Thank you.
	TheVivaFrye on Twitter, VivaFrye on Rumble, and VivaBarnesLaw.Locals.com for the best community out there.
	We love even Barnes.
	I might have to stop by there sometime soon.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I have to cruise on over.
	Anytime.
	Alright.
	Well, Chapman, I'll talk to you.
	Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay ashore.

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