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MEMORIAL DAY SPECIAL: HOW TRUMP WILL FIX OUR MILITARY

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for today's special Memorial Day edition of Human Events Daily.
Today is May 27th, 2024.
Anno Domini.
We live in a world right now where it seems as though things are spiraling out of control.
And you go back 20 years ago, or almost 25 years ago now, to the events of 9-11.
And in many ways, and I say this as a, you know, Gen Y, I remember the 90s as a time of the outpouring of great celebrations and fun and people were making money, great economy, everything seemed booming.
The future of humanity and the future of America seemed to be written literally in the stars.
We had spaceships.
And somewhere along the line, 9-11 happens and that bubble just bursts.
And you get to a situation where suddenly troops are deploying, the U.S.
military is getting involved around the world, wars are kicking off, and that dream, that dream of going to the stars, that dream of colonizing the galaxy, It was just lost.
It was completely lost.
And instead, we were told that we have to focus on the military.
We have to focus on the here and now.
We have to focus on these issues.
The issues of world politics, geopolitics.
And we didn't realize that the instability that started that day would continue and continue and escalate and escalate.
And somewhere along the line, That fighting force on September 11, 2001, and the thousands of Americans that have died since, who we remember today, who joined the thousands of Americans who died in all of our prior wars.
Somewhere along the way, we decided to turn our military into a social incubator for trans ideas and woke ideas.
And we started to use the military as the world police.
We're the world police in the Middle East.
We're the world police in Asia.
We're the world police in Eurasia.
Is this what's best for our force?
No.
And that's why, along the way, you've seen America's best and brightest, and our, not just our military-age males, but our fighting-able males, fighting-capable males, the type of people that would go on to make excellent soldiers and marines and seals and rangers.
They stopped joining.
Said, I don't want to be associated with that outfit.
That outfit's a joke.
That's where do you go to go die in a sandbox somewhere, in some country you can't even pronounce, in a place that no one in your family has ever even heard of.
And so, the U.S.
military has degraded.
And the status of the force is not where it should be.
Could you imagine if 9-11 happened today?
The fighting force we have would not be able to respond.
And I'm not saying that America's response was good.
I'm saying we wouldn't even be able to attempt any of those things.
No.
China, Russia, please.
It's a joke.
So today, we are going to discuss this very situation and the way forward for President Trump when he wins this November.
How to fix the U.S.
military.
We're going to be joined by General Michael Flynn and Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
Stay tuned.
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Today, you know, you talk about influences.
These are influences.
and their friends of mine.
Where's Jack?
He's done a great job.
Jack so we're back here.
Human events daily are memori Very honored to have once again on the program General Michael T. Flynn.
General Flynn, by the way, I know the last time I had you on, I said I would, I promised you I'd watch the documentary.
I have since seen it.
Congratulations.
That's fantastic.
Obviously a very emotional piece, but I can see why it's having the success that it has.
Tell me, what's it like actually having a story out there like that?
Well, it's a very intimate look.
It is a remarkable story of survival, actually, for my family and I. So it's great.
It's very humbling, the feedback and the response we've been getting as I have, you know, as I recently traveled around the country.
So I'm honored.
My family and I feel blessed that we have the strength of our family that we do have.
And I do believe that if people see this, They'll see something in it of themselves because the assault on me and my family was really an assault on all of America.
And many Americans are going through it right now.
So I do hope that more and more people get out there to see it.
And I think that they're going to have the same response that many, that frankly thousands of Americans have already had.
Well, General, that actually dovetails into today's theme because as we're talking about Memorial Day, talking about the day for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice, The question that comes to my mind is that what's happened to these institutions that have been entrusted with the lives of these soldiers?
We always say, you know, there's that line when you sign up and join, you know, you're writing a blank check that's payable up to and including your entire life.
I'm sure you've heard that a million times.
And so the question is what's gone wrong with the institutions that we've entrusted with that sacred right?
Yeah so one of the key words that you just used or a portion of one of the words you just used is trust and I think right now we and I know this I know this in spades because I've been around this country many times in the last number of years and people come up to me all the time moms dads a lot of times moms and young men and young women who are contemplating serving in the in the military there is a lack of trust and I think that probably the one of the greatest
National security threats that we can face in this country is when there is a breakdown of trust between those who we need to serve in our armed forces and the moms and dads, principally, where we have to get these young men and young women from, right?
This trust between the citizenry of our country and those that are serving in our military.
And I want those that listen to this, The leadership of our military, today's leadership, and I'm not talking about the civilian political appointed people, I'm talking about the uniformed military at the senior levels, the chairmen, the chiefs of staff, the various people that are running our services in uniform.
They need to understand that that type of trait that we hold so dear is trust.
Trust is essential on the battlefield to be able to have an effective unit.
Trust is essential when we're making critical decisions about the types of forces that we're going to deploy.
But the most important element is the element of trust That we must have between those that we are trying to get in to come into our military and those where we're taking them from.
The families of America who are going to give up their sons and daughters where they sign on that dotted line and to potentially give their lives for this nation and the cause of freedom.
That idea of trust is such an important thing.
And sadly, it looks like the United States Navy and the United States Army are going to both miss their recruiting goals as we go into the latter part of this year, this military year through the end of September.
That's the way the government tracks their year.
So by the end of September, it looks like the Navy's not going to make it.
It looks like the Army's not going to make it.
The downstream effect of that lack of recruiting actually hurts the training.
It hurts the readiness.
It hurts the preparation of future forces.
The downstream effect of this lack of trust, this inability to be able to build up the kind of strength the what we call the foxhole strength of our armed forces it really does impact on our ability to be able to to withstand some of the potential foes that we are going to face that we are facing now around the world and it also doesn't allow us
To be this very innovative force that we need to be where we can apply different ideas in different and ingenious ways that we actually conduct operations.
But you can only conduct those operations, those types of major regional conflicts or these limited regional engagements that we find ourselves involved in, in places like Central America or the Caribbean, or places like East Africa, Middle East, Central Asia, possibly in East Asia, in a place like Taiwan Straits or Korea.
I mean, all of these geographic places are safe only when the United States military is strong and ready and prepared and is at a fighting strength that is sustainable over a long period of time.
And a single factor that I look for in our ability to be able to do all these things is trust.
That bond between those in the military and those we need to come in the military and the moms and dads, principally the moms and dads who are still, you know, producing these brave young American patriots, right?
So that's really, to me, that's That's something that I try to when I talk to people, Jack, I talk to moms and dads.
I talk to young people because it kills me to not be able to say, you know, when they come to me and say, hey, I'm thinking about joining the Navy or the Army.
Right.
It kills me to say, I don't know.
You know, I don't do that.
What I do is I ask them, what is it that they're expecting?
What is it that they want to do?
And I do tell them.
I do tell them that, you know, hopefully On the near-term horizon, coming this November, we can re-establish this bond.
We can re-establish the right type of leadership that we need.
Frankly, I do think that our leadership at the highest levels in our military uniform and certainly the political appointees are failing our country right now.
They're failing the men and women in uniform.
In general, one of the things that I've been hearing a lot lately too is, and this is something I've never heard in the history of the United States, military families are starting to tell their sons and daughters to not join.
Talk to me about the importance of military families because this really is the backbone of our fighting forces.
Yeah, and sometimes we call that legacy.
The legacy of a family is servicing.
And I go back.
Both my grandfathers served in World War I. One of my grandfathers served in World War I and World War II.
My father served in World War II and Korea.
I had a brother that served during Vietnam.
I have a son that's serving.
I have a brother who's still serving.
So the Flynn family is a family of legacy of service.
to country in uniform and and what is happening is people that serve like in the Korean or the certainly the Vietnam War who have children that are coming of age even the people that served in the early days of the uh the war on terror you know their their children are now coming of age to serve and they're starting to say I don't you know I don't I'm not sure I want you to serve in the military because of what we are seeing
Coming out of the decisions that we're seeing, coming out of our military leadership where they're force-feeding things like, sorry, but critical race theory, social-emotional learning, this whole notion of diversity, equity, and inclusivity.
And Jack, you know this from serving on
on ships at sea there's no safe spaces on a ship when a ship in fact i've been on i've served on ships before in my time in joint operations you know there's no safe spaces they're teaching this kind of stuff at the navy academy they're teaching it at at west point for the for the uh for those future army officers about safe spaces when they when they feel threatened by their by their instructors or they feel you know like they need to take a break from the problems of the day i mean when when there is a fire at sea on board a united states naval
A warship, there's no safe space.
Everybody, it's all hands on deck.
Everybody's moving at the speed of light to put that fire out and to save lives.
On the battlefield, it's the same thing.
It is the exact same thing.
When, you know, there's no safe space that you can go to if you're behind a wall being shot at by some enemy who's trying to kill you.
They don't think about diversity.
They're not thinking about inclusivity or critical race theory.
They're thinking about killing you.
And they're thinking about protecting whatever it is that they're trying to protect.
So one of the things that we've got to rebuild back into our military is we've got to build a couple of things.
And these don't really get to the values of our armed forces.
Number one is leadership.
I already mentioned trust.
I would say the whole idea about duty, the sense of duty, the sense of honor, of service to a nation.
The sense of country and loving one's country instead of trying to build in this whole craziness about racial justice inside of this social experiment that we feel like the military is being taken through the ring around.
The battlefield, there is no atheist in a foxhole, is what my father used to say.
You know, a European theater, a World War II veteran, and then he went and served over two years in the Korean conflict, and he was a tough guy.
You know, there's no atheist in a foxhole, and I experienced that myself in my many years of deployments overseas in combat.
So, we have a We have a need to return to a set of values and in fact what I would say is our military and our services, even though we want to maintain the different cultures in our services because of their warfighting abilities and what we expect out of them, I think what we're going to need to do is return to some type of Yes.
of set of values that we all accept.
And those values, they clearly have to do with trust.
They clearly have to do with readiness.
They clearly have to do with leadership.
They clearly have to do with courage and honor and sense of duty.
And to me, the idea of excellence, excellence in whatever it is that you're trying to achieve.
That means in the military, every, exactly, I'm just going to say every single thing in the military has a standard.
Go ahead, Jack.
Quick break, quick break right here, but we're going to come right back on this because this is what Americans need to hear to reestablish this bond, the sacred bond between the people and the military.
Come back.
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Jack Posobiec back here.
Memorial Day special, Human Events Daily.
We're on with General Michael T. Flynn.
General Flynn, I want to ask you a question that might be a little controversial, but you're no stranger to controversy.
You're happy to take the hard questions, as we know.
During, and this is my analysis, during the Obama administration, it seemed like so much of the flag corps, president company excluded, of course, was promoted and put into position because they agreed with a certain set of ideals or a certain set of values.
At the time, we didn't really have a word for it.
You might call it woke now, or at least was willing to go along with it.
James O'Keefe had a video recently Where they were talking about this, and it was a recruiter, but it was similar, you know, the guy was saying, oh, we have to say this stuff if you want to get ahead.
You have to go along with this stuff if you want to get ahead.
And my question is, though, for the people who are the true believers in our flag corps currently in the military, and this is something where even when Trump was in, he couldn't really move against them.
What do you do with that flag corps that's out there that really are true believers in this progressive agenda?
Yeah, so number one, everybody works for the President of the United States.
He is the commander in chief.
So I do believe that under the Obama administration, there was clearly the group that was sort of on the in, and then there was the group that was on the out.
And I found myself in that latter group.
This next administration under Donald J. Trump, He is going to have to do a cleansing at the top.
And I mean from the chairman, the service chiefs, and it possibly goes down even further.
And in fact, I know that it will have to, particularly in some really critical commands that are out there.
We cannot have the type of, you know, some cases three-star, but mostly four-star leaders We've always been a diverse force.
There's equity in the military and has always been equity in the military.
It's called maintaining a standard or achieving or exceeding the standard.
There's always been a very, very fair system It's its own government, if you will.
The President of the United States of America is going to have to do a deep cleansing of the leadership at the top.
The rank and file in our country is still very much focused on why they initially, why they came in.
Now, when I say the rank and file, I'm talking about, you know, our young officers, our young enlisted, our mid-grade sergeants, sergeants first class, chiefs, chief petty officers, you know, our majors, you know, some of our battalion commanders, but there's going to have to be sort of a retraining period too.
And the retraining period after you've done the cleansing.
When I say cleansing, I mean, I'm talking about retiring many of these people right away.
Like no more.
We'll just let them get to their two year term or their four year term.
No, they have got to be told.
Thank you for your service.
You're done.
And have them immediately.
So just mass retirement.
You're not going to hire a bunch of.
I'm sorry.
So just mass retirement for a lot of these guys.
Yeah, I mean, when you say mass, that seems like a bigger number.
There's going to have to be a selective retirement, certainly.
The other thing I think people need to understand is that We have one of the smallest militaries we've ever had right now.
It's the most untrained and unprepared military that we've had in a long, long time.
Untrained for the major regional conflicts or the potential physical world war that we could find ourselves in.
We're not ready to do that.
And so one of the things that has to happen is there got to be a return to war fighting.
There has to be a return to leading and leading from the front.
There has to be a return to readiness and a high standard that's not just a standard of knowing how to, you know, use your weapon system and run an organization, but it's a moral high ground too.
We have to return our military back to a moral high ground, which I think that we've lost.
I think we've lost it because We have, just like what's happening in the country right now, this divisiveness that we all feel that is happening to our society, that type of divisiveness is happening inside of our military.
The people don't know it.
Most Americans don't see it.
Those that are really you know those that are inside they can feel it because there's a there is a just like what's happening on the on uh you know around our country society you know in our society where there's this racial tension in the military they're bringing that type of attitude to our military we cannot have that There has to be one standard.
I don't care whether you're purple with pink polka dots.
If you can meet that standard and you're ready to go to war and you're trained, you know, you're focused, you can achieve the standard, then you're going to be okay.
So back to this question of the leadership, the leadership at the top is going to have to be changed out.
That is clear to me.
I mean, if we're not meeting the recruitment goals, and there are some others, not just the four stars, there are some other three-star commanders out there, That are in positions where they're not meeting it because they're not leading.
They're not forcing back up, right?
You've got to force back up, meaning up the chain of command.
You've got to say, hey, look, We're not going to be able to do this if we're going to have this kind of attitude coming out of the civilian leadership.
And it doesn't mean that we've got to disavow what our civilian leaders are telling us.
Absolutely not.
It's just the reverse.
But as general officers, as admirals, generals, flag officers, you've got to be prepared to throw your stars down and tell your civilian leadership, look, We are broken as a military, and unless we fix it, I can no longer serve.
Yeah, there may be legal orders that you're getting, but if there are orders that you say to yourself, look, this is going to ruin the institution of the military, then it's time for you to go.
And you can't hang around and pretend like, well, I can fix it if I just stay longer.
No, you're part of the problem.
So the The President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief, is going to have to take a really hard look at whoever the Secretary of Defense is, and then that Secretary of Defense is going to have to look at, with the support of the President, is going to have to take a look at the leadership at the top, reconnecting to the American people and re-establishing that trust and that bond, and then also bringing in a set of values into our military that
That all of us are that these sort of universal set of values, duty, honor, country, courage, leadership, ethics, you know, sort of the morality that we need this idea of, you know, we are we are all in this together.
And there is a Brotherhood or a sisterhood, or what you will, that exists inside of the formations of all of our units.
You know, we talk about things like foxhole strength, or battlefield innovation, or I would just call it, I don't know, it's like the ability to juggle multiple balls, right?
In our in our leadership and and we want that from our troops as well.
So many of these things we are incapable of doing right now because we have leadership that is so afraid of their own shadows because they're afraid if they're not force-feeding critical race theory down to the down to the foxhole level then they're going to be you know booted out.
Well then you're not in the right profession.
This is a profession of war fighting.
This is a profession of war, right?
So we have a warrior I mean, Joe, you're sounding all the right terms.
First and foremost, the purpose of the military is to hurt people and break stuff in the defense of our nation.
I guess here's my next question.
I know we only have you for a couple more minutes on the program.
When we say that phrase, in the defense of our nation, It feels like so many of the things that we're currently doing aren't in the defense of our nation.
They're in defense of some political interest or some economic interest, and yet we see our border that's completely wide open.
General, would you be supportive of what President Trump has talked about in taking military action regarding these cartels operating across our border?
Yes, and I would even go further, Jack.
We need to designate the drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, and we need to use military forces and military application to destroy them.
And I mean destroy them.
And I would have no problems positioning military forces along our border, U.S.
active military forces along our border to go in and, you know, once these organizations are designated as foreign terrorist organizations, because that's what they are, They are killing people in this country.
I mean, fentanyl alone is close to 200,000 killed in action in just the last year, Jack.
So absolutely.
And the last thing that I'd say on this beautiful Memorial Day weekend, and I appreciate you running this testimony to our armed forces and to the men and women serving on this very important weekend.
And frankly, you ought to cherish them every single day.
In our country, we still have young men and women who are willing to give their lives for the cause of freedom.
I know that because I speak to many of them.
They are wary of joining an armed forces where they cannot
Uh do the kinds of things that they have that they have seen they have read about that things we that they're like we talked about earlier the legacy of their of their uncles their their fathers and what they have talked about in terms of service to country and what they've seen in service to country and in a variety of of ways we want that attitude back I want that attitude back the only way that we're going to get that attitude back you know here on this Memorial Day and with the new administration under President Donald J Trump
is by reestablishing that bond of trust between those we want to serve and those who are serving and those where we need to get that body of strength from, meaning the moms and dads, principally the moms and dads.
But also these days, Joe or Jack, it's also from the grandmas and grandpas and the uncles.
And again, those who have had a legacy of service in uniform to our country in the past, going back at least as far as, let's say, the Korean War, although we still have a few World War II vets with us, but certainly the Korean War, the Vietnam War, we want people to come in.
Last thing, Jack, is that, and this is about attitude.
We have to develop a winning attitude in our armed forces.
No more participating in these endless wars.
And that's why, as I talked about, as you highlighted early on in the movie, one of the things I talked about with Donald J. Trump early on was the idea of winning and getting out of these endless wars and ending them, right?
Ending them on our terms.
A specific objective, a definite goal.
We have to bring a winning attitude back to this country and back to our armed forces.
So, you know, on this Memorial Day, let's get that winning attitude back.
Let's take that idea of winning back.
And we can do that, and we can do it on our terms.
We go.
We win.
We come home.
We keep America safe.
And on this Memorial Day weekend, make sure you go see Flynn.
If you're looking for a movie to go see while you're barbecuing or whatever you're doing, check out the documentary Flynn.
You will not regret it.
Stay tuned.
We'll be right back.
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Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.
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Our next guest here, very honored to have on, as always, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schafer.
Tony, something we were just talking about here with General Flynn was this idea that our military force right now is not inspiring anyone to join.
And the idea of using 9-11 again and again, like I keep hearing from the Flag Corps, the 18-year-old of today, so people turning 18 in 2024, were born in 2006.
That means 9-11 to them is something that happened five years before they were born.
No, I'm not saying it hasn't affected them, I'm not saying it doesn't have resonance, but it's fundamentally different than it was before.
You can't just automatically get people to join.
And I think a lot of people say, when you see things like the fall of Kabul, when you see things like this absolute debacle in Ukraine and the bloodlands of Eurasia, people are saying, why would I want to get involved with a new organization like that?
So, Tony, my question is, if and when Trump gets in in November, come 2025, how do we set about righting the ship?
Well, you do it two ways.
Jack, thanks for having me for this.
I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this topic.
You do it two ways.
First, you've got to cut out the cancer, which is DEI.
One of the things that's pervasive, and I talk to people all the time who see it on the inside.
Oh, by the way, Jack, if you so chose now, if you wanted to Yeah, I'll run it by my wife.
in, you wanted to become a girl, just saying that would be an incentive.
I am not joking.
I am not remotely joking about that.
That is something that they're doing.
And if you're a guy and you want to.
Yeah, I'll run it by my wife.
I'm sure it'll go real well.
But that's my point.
And then that happens.
And you know what happened?
You're not deployable.
You know, transgenderism is a mental, the mental issue.
Then you cut on people and give give them drugs that they have to take every day or else they revert back to their prior form.
They're not deployable.
That person becomes a permanent ward, Department of Defense.
It's a form of welfare.
That's not that's not raising recruiting numbers.
I don't I'm sorry, Jack.
A lot of people aren't wanting to change genders going to military.
I think that's what's got to go.
It's not working.
It's not a good strategy.
So you've got to get rid of all that next.
And Mike Flynn said this, too.
We've got to get back to the point of where we have Attitude of patriotism of turn for our public for what it is what the founding fathers wanted it to be and then the idea that we're serving something greater than ourselves this whole idea of Joining the military to be all you can be Yeah, not so much I mean I know the army use that as a saying be all you can be But I think the part two of that is be all you can be in service to something greater than yourself God and country
We need to get that back into the mix.
And then as a as a tension of that winning, Mike said this, I agree with him.
Over the time of my military career, I served 31 and a half years.
There are very few leaders who actually exemplified winning better than Storm and Norman Schwarzkopf.
Schwarzkopf was the graduation speaker when I went to the farm at a prep.
There's my class picture at the farm.
That was our class symbolism.
Roger Thornhill running in the movie North by Northwest.
That was our symbol.
Anyway, and that was a great Hitchcockian spy movie.
Anyway, my point being, Jack, is that the idea of winning and the United States national security policy have been distant relatives, if not divorced for a long time.
We got to return The idea of including entanglements with some level of the victory of our choosing, not someone else.
I think Trump's going to do that because I think he's pretty fed up with being victimized both at the international and domestic level.
But those are the things.
Get rid of DEI.
Change the attitude regarding the military.
Eliminate officers who don't get the memo, that they don't understand your job is to serve the Republic, serve the people.
And fire them if need be.
I think that would be a good thing.
And then get back to doing the basic things, as you said, also killing people and breaking things on call.
That's the military's job, not to be a social petri dish, allowing everybody to feel good about whatever malady may break them down.
Well, in addition to the social engineering aspect, can we talk a little bit, I'd love to pick your brain as well, about the U.S. military's involvement in seemingly all of these conflicts everywhere in the world.
We're involved in everyone's dirty business other than our own.
Right?
Right.
You could find, I don't think you could find, I don't think it'd be very hard to do recruiting if you had a president up there who says, we're going after the cartels.
I'm sick of the fentanyl.
I'm sick of what they've done.
Let's go.
We're going to do this.
You would have volunteers like, like actually for, if people remember the, uh, the Mexican American war, we had tons of volunteers, the hunt down for Santa Ana, all this people volunteered to go and do that.
During the Cold War.
I, um, I turned 18 in 1980 and, Um, and just in time for the, for the Reagan presidential election.
And I proudly voted for Reagan because Reagan was bringing patriotism and the idea of winning back.
Remember we'd just come out of, well, you don't remember cause you weren't there, but I remember we had just come out of Vietnam.
I was there, but I'm not, not old enough to remember it.
I remember it.
And so my point being is that Reagan, And by the way, as you know, studying history—you weren't there, but you study history—people were upset with Reagan.
It's like, oh my, how dare you challenge the convention of the wisdom of all the professional bureaucracies?
Like, no, my philosophy is they lose, we win.
That's it.
So, we need to get back to that, and yeah, to your point regarding cartels, regarding terrorists, regarding all that stuff, Trump needs to tap into that inherent patriotism which still exists within the Midwest, within those who love the country, and ignore convention.
That is to say, like Reagan did, ignore all the nervous Nellies, oh, this is going to upset the cart of apples with the Soviets.
Maybe, but maybe it'll destabilize them.
And so another thing, too, I'll say this and be very direct about it.
Reagan never sought war with Russia, Soviet.
As much as they were an evil empire, it led with other things.
The idea was to defeat them without having to actually fire a bullet or jeopardize blood and treasure.
We need to get back to that attitude.
Let's just find a way to win, even if it's unconventional.
And here's my question as well, is when Reagan was facing the Soviet Union, that was a clearly defined target with a clearly defined strategic intent, clearly defined outcome, clearly defined ending.
Nowadays, people say, and I'm just going to say it, and I know you've heard this before, people will say, so the United States Took four presidents, 20 plus years, and how many deaths?
To replace the Taliban with the Taliban.
Like, what was the point of all that?
And that doesn't inspire confidence when you have an organization that has not done anything to the United States in over two plus decades.
It becomes very hard to sell that to people.
But if you come over and say, look, we've got these cartels on our border the same way that Thomas Jefferson had the Barbary pirates to deal with.
When he became our president and launched one of America's first overseas conflicts and said, we're going to go and do something about that.
I think if our government and our military were able to articulate these things, then people would actually start going back in again.
And I think this is a huge disconnect because you'll get these people up there that look like Rachel Levine saying you need to serve America because of our our glorious democracy and our diversity and our like what this doesn't speak to the type of people that want to join the military all right yeah maybe the peace corps or maybe you know people looking for government jobs but it does not speak to the people who want to go and fight and more importantly make the enemy bleed in order to protect their homeland
stay tuned folks be right back lieutenant colonel tony schaefer memorial day special this case is a joke and Ashton Kutcher is going to the top of the left to tell us that we've been pumped. - Jack, we're still gonna be back live.
Memorial Day, human events daily with ON with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
So Tony, I'd love to pick your brain on this this idea and get your thoughts on If the American people, if you go, I'm speaking specifically to young men because, you know, let's, let's not be woke.
We're going to throw woke out here for a second.
The people that do the majority of the war fighting, not just in the United States today, but throughout all of human recorded history have been young males.
Okay.
This is your war force.
And the fact of the matter is that it's predominantly young white males that the military is not recruiting anymore or not even trying to recruit.
Actually, funny enough, there was a joke going around on Twitter that said, you know how the military is preparing for war because they change the actors in the recruitment ads to young white males?
So, in order to go after this group, then you have to have a clearly defined target.
They're not just going to want to jump in and go after when they can see things like Afghanistan, they can see things that don't inspire any confidence whatsoever or even any trust that our leadership has their interests at heart.
What can Trump and the next administration do to fix this?
Well, as I mentioned before, there's some of the recommendations I'd make to fix the military.
The first thing you have to do if you take power is effectively pick deputy.
I would argue, outside of Mike Flynn and a handful of others, Trump didn't do a good job of that last time.
So I think I'd like to believe the president's learned his lesson.
The first thing that Trump has to do, and I think Mike and others like myself will be there to advise, you've got to take out the first three levels of leadership.
The people who are currently in charge, Jack, are supporting the very adverse and negative and failing policies that you and I are discussing.
They're not going to change.
They're not going to change back the way it was before.
You need to get rid of them because they are essentially... You're not going to re-educate and deprogram?
No.
No, they came through the Obama-Biden system.
So they belong to that.
Be done with it.
Move them on.
General said a cleansing of early retirement offers.
And I saw the reduction of force in the early 90s.
We can do it again.
Again, a lot of us, Jack, have seen this movie before.
We know how to play the role.
We just have to be given the script and allowed to go do it.
We have a couple minutes left, but here's what I specifically want to ask you.
We know that America and you and I talk about this on the regular you know day-to-day when we're chopping up about the news about what's going on in the Middle East or what's going on in Asia or what's going on in predominantly in eastern Ukraine.
We say, what's America's strategic national interest in these areas and should we have military involvement?
And it never really seems to be that these are military moves.
Many of these cases can be solved diplomatically, they could be solved economically, or just face-to-face meetings with presidents as President Trump had famously employed.
When you see the military though, and the use of the military for kinetic operations, as we now call them, right?
Actual combat operations.
What do you see on the board?
Do you see anything?
I mean, obviously, the cartels are number one.
Should that become the new focus of a new American military?
The key is deterrence.
And let me be as clear as I can be.
One of the things about the Reagan buildup And let me tell you a little secret.
The intent was never to use it, Jack.
It's like, to prepare a military that is so enormous.
I'm sure you've seen the movie The Hunt for Red October, right?
The Tom Clancy novel?
Have I seen that?
Has the Navy guy seen Hunt for Red October?
Come on.
Tom Clancy was coached by the U.S.
Navy planners, you know what I'm talking about, to have certain things embedded in that story.
So that was, the intention was to show the Russians.
Clancy had clearance throughout his entire career.
It wasn't just Hunker in October.
He had full clearance.
The CIA used to bring him in and they used to use those novels to send their little signals.
Is that we were able to not only having a military force that's mighty is to make them believe that we'd kick their ass if they did anything.
That's the beauty of it.
So we need to get back to that, because the perception of might is more effective than just having might.
And Reagan brought it.
Trump can bring it.
That's where we have to go with this, to reestablish a credible deterrent system that is like, the belief is, you do something, you're going to be crushed.
Otherwise, we want to be your best friend.
We don't want to get involved in your stuff.
We want to be there to be helpful if things become difficult.
So that's where we should go back to.
I think it worked with Reagan.
I'm a Reagan guy.
Well, of course, and this is, you know, this is clear.
We want the strongest military possible.
We want to have the best military on the planet.
We ought to, and we certainly have the best pool for it.
The question, though, is, and this is why you get people like, I mean, We'll have to have another conversation about what Russia's doing with their new Minister of Defense and shifting into this massive economic... I mean, Putin's turned on the war economy over there, turning on the war industry all over again.
They never abandoned the framework for it.
They never did.
And what do we do?
We complain about it, we whine about it, we write strongly worded letters, and we claim that that is actual deterrence.
No, it turns out that it isn't.
So the arsenal of freedom needs to be actually arsenalized.
But here's my biggest point, though, is if you tell people that they have a specific target that is an actual threat to the United States and that you need to go and fight.
I truly believe that the young men of this country would still be willing to do so.
Last minute, what say you, Tony Schaefer?
So the cartels and the elements that are subordinated or linked to it are a clear and present danger.
It's just like the movie, Clear and Present Danger.
You have the cartels right on the southwest border.
Another Clancy reference.
I'm sensing a pattern, Tony.
Yeah, yeah, you are.
And then he had a lot of good ideas, just saying, based on the relationship he had with the Pentagon, that there's reasons why, Jack, we need to examine and map Mexico as an adversary.
Oh, by the way, not Tom Clancy related, a guy named Black Jack Pershing actually led a An expedition.
A punitive expedition into Mexico.
Wasn't a bad idea at the time and I think it's something we need to look at again because we do have enemies in the South.
Where can people go and follow you and get connected to all your coordinates?
Projectsentinel.com and obviously just look for me on Twitter with you and we always have things that are exciting over on X. X is the ghost.
So thanks Jack for having me on.
Good to be on with you.
God bless, man.
Look, to everybody out there celebrating this Memorial Day, if you had family that served, I've got family that served in many, many American wars, remember, God bless their service.
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