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EPISODE 691: THE DEATH OF TIKTOK?

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	Deliver us from evil!
	This morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that Russia is ready to use nuclear weapons if there is any threat to Russia's existence or independence.
	Putin said it would be a significant escalation if the U.S.
	sent troops into Ukraine.
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	Yeah, I've just obtained that filing and basically what is happening is that Judge Scott McAfee is dismissing several of the charges here in Georgia against former President Donald Trump.
	Six of the charges.
	I'm here with Congressman Ken Buck, Republican of Colorado, to announce some big news.
	You're leaving Congress at the end of next week.
	I am, yes.
	I'm resigning my seat and creating a vacancy in my district.
	Voters in this year's election are looking at a Biden-Trump rematch after both candidates secured enough delegates in last night's primary contest to become their party's presumptive nominees for president.
	I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden, just because I think with Biden, he's gone.
	You know he's gone.
	You're going to be relying on his cabinet, and I knew his cabinet would be this f***ing sideshow of diversity, which is exactly what it is.
	We have to win an election.
	And we should win it by a lot because there's never been anybody worse at doing that job than Joe Biden.
	So we're not going to take time to celebrate.
	We'll celebrate in eight months when the election is over.
	November 5th, I believe, will go down as the most important day in the history of our country.
	The U.S.
	House is poised to pass a bill that could ban the wildly popular social media app TikTok.
	The bill would require the app's Chinese parent company, ByteDance, to sever ties with the app within six months or risk getting blocked on app stores and websites across the country.
	This is not an attempt to ban TikTok.
	It's an attempt to make TikTok better.
	Tic-tac-toe.
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	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily Live from Palm Beach, Florida.
	We're going to be here for a couple of days working on some events, possibly with some people that you might know.
	Today is March 13th, 2024.
	Anno Domini.
	A surprise TikTok ban has just cast massive, absolutely massive, stunning, absolutely stunning, I have to say this, majority in the house, 352 votes.
	I gotta say, and I've been on the phone all morning, I've been on the phone all afternoon talking to folks saying, how was it that the CCP took it on the chin this big?
	Because I've never seen the CCP go down like this in almost 20 years of being laser focused on these types of issues.
	And it's interesting.
	Now, obviously, number one, this is not a full ban of TikTok.
	What it is a divestiture.
	Now, here's an interesting fact.
	Why is it?
	There you say that TikTok doesn't just start TikTok America and have some folks and this guy Jeff Yost, this mega billionaire guy who was bankrolling and has been bankrolling the Club for China Growth, a guy who was totally against Trump in the primary, big time supporter of Ron DeSantis.
	Why then wouldn't he just start up TikTok America and run it there?
	Well, the reason is, folks, and I'll tell you right now, it's because they've been lying about the fact that these data centers are just in Texas.
	Because, of course, they have a backdoor and they don't want anyone seeing what's going on there.
	I'm also hearing, by the way, and of course, it goes without saying, Google is going to be a big beneficiary here.
	Facebook is going to be a big beneficiary here.
	You know, remember the Zucker bucks?
	You have to understand, folks, this is a billionaire fight.
	Biden came out for this.
	And you know what else?
	He really wants those Zucker bucks.
	He really wants those Zuckerbucks to be turned back on for the election.
	And so what does Zuckerberg want?
	Ban TikTok.
	You're witnessing a perfect storm against TikTok right now.
	That's actually what's going on.
	But let's step back.
	Obviously, there's going to be winners and losers in this.
	But if one of the biggest losers is the Chinese Communist Party, if the Chinese Communist Party and their running dogs in the United States, like the U.S.
	House, like the U.S.
	Chamber, I should say, like the Business Committee, like Wall Street, all have to take it on the chin, then I say go for it.
	You think I should care about them?
	I should care about the fact that they're losing a little bit off their bottom line?
	No.
	No.
	Tariffs on everybody.
	Divest TikTok 100% when it comes to this.
	I know it's not a ban.
	It's not going away.
	Possibly, we'd have a better country if it were, but that's not what this is.
	Kevin Sorbo joins us next.
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	Kevin Sorbo is joining us here for the second time.
	Kevin, we connected before on Brave Books.
	I wanted to get you on though as well to talk about this TikTok I'll call it the divestiture.
	There it is.
	There it is, folks.
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	People are really, really, it's very relevant.
	I'll put it that way, but I got to ask you.
	I got another one in June coming up.
	All right, you're coming on then.
	You're going to come on and we're going to talk about it.
	I love it.
	The TikTok bill that just passed the House, what are your thoughts on this?
	Is this something that conservatives should get behind?
	Because there's all this debate.
	You know, President Trump has said he's not sure on it yet.
	There's a lot of money floating around.
	Where do you come down?
	Well, I think if it's something that's good, it's going to take care of the ridiculousness of what China's doing through TikTok and it's just further indoctrination of our kids, let alone they got that at K through 12th grade in our universities and through Hollywood movies and TV shows and Washington DC control over all of us and kids as well.
	I think I hopefully, if I'm reading it right, it's going to be a good thing.
	As you know, China doesn't certainly let anything that TikTok shows here show in their home country.
	Well, and this is clear.
	So in China, it's called Douyin, and this was sort of the original app.
	It's got even more features, a lot more facial recognition stuff than the TikTok app, at least publicly that we know of has in the United States.
	But their algorithm is fundamentally different in China than the TikTok algorithm here in the United States.
	It promotes piano playing, it promotes STEM, it promotes language learning, it promotes positive things that are actually good for the development of young people, of high schoolers, et cetera.
	But, and it also, in some instances, it has a feature where it shuts down on school nights.
	All of these things that the CCP, when you talk about their maligned influence in the United States, which certainly exists, and you obviously know from the Hollywood side, They don't have that influence over their own people in the same way.
	They actually want their people to develop in a stable and proper way.
	You know, they're not interested in, you know, freedom of expression or anything like that.
	But when you're talking about their focus on actual talents and actual skills, they're so far ahead of us.
	Oh yeah, there's no question.
	Look, they still rule that country with a communist iron hand, but they rule the government under capitalism.
	They love capitalism.
	They love what all the money is brought into them.
	They probably own America now.
	They bought, what, 450,000 acres of farmland?
	Last I read something about it.
	But they want, here in America, they want the indoctrination of the kids.
	They want to show that, you know, you look at how they do it in their movies and TV shows, They tell Hollywood what they can make and what they can't make if they want to have that movie air in China.
	They want China to look like the Great Place and bashing America is fine.
	They don't mind doing that at all because they want to undermine everything in the American culture and they're doing a darn good job.
	Walt Disney said back in the 1950s, movies and television will influence our youth.
	Well, you can bring that into the internet as well and what's happening with cell phones too.
	Well, Walt Disney also back in the 1950s, I remember specifically him coming out saying, hey, and he went to the house and so many people forget about this.
	And Disney, of course, the company won't talk about it today.
	He went to the House of Representatives, the same house that just voted against this thing.
	And he said, you know something?
	I've seen this on my movie lots.
	I've seen it in my production houses.
	He said there are communists that are starting to take over Hollywood.
	He said that to the American people.
	And in fact, he talked about why communism is the most Anti-American ideology on the face of the planet, because it's not about equality.
	It's about revenge.
	It's about envy.
	It's about hatred.
	It's about greed.
	And this was Walt Disney.
	I'm like, where are we going to get the Disney movie about anti-communism?
	Over 60 years ago.
	Yeah.
	Well, look what Disney's doing.
	Look at the woke movies they're putting out there.
	And thank God, America's waking up a little bit to that, at least, because they're going to look at a well over a billion dollar loss from last year in their movies.
	And I don't know how long you can keep the business going with that, but let's face it, old Walt is flipping in his grave what Disney has done to his name.
	He says, this is not what Disney was formed for.
	We know what the audience is that watches Disney, and now Disney is doing the stuff that's opposite.
	It's kind of like what Bud Light did, right?
	I mean, don't you know your target audience?
	I mean, come on, this is ridiculous.
	And unfortunately, you know, it's so interesting that you say that too because one of the things, the issues that Bud Light has found is that it wasn't just seen as a sort of blip for them and they tried to turn very hard back, doing the UFC deal with Dana White, trying to bring some more people on, standing by Sean Strickland, etc.
	But what's really happened is Is that this is now, it's gone from a rebrand and it's almost just become an entire image issue for them, where they are now known as that brand.
	And the problem, or I guess the worry for Disney, if they think it's a worry, I don't know, is that they're just going to be known as the woke children's entertainment complex.
	And that's why, it brings us right back to Brave Books, that's why people are now coming and saying, all right, we're not going to do Disney.
	But we do want something for the kids.
	You know, I've got kids.
	You've got kids.
	Your kids are a little older than my kids.
	But, you know, what are you going to show the kids that they're interested in?
	And something that I love about Brave Books is that they're just good stories.
	They're not beating you over the head with messaging.
	It's not lectures.
	They're fun stories.
	It's adventure.
	I almost feel like it's kind of the, you know, the conservative, I'm gonna say Paw Patrol, but it's like the Avengers, it's like Paw Patrol, it's all of these adventure-type stories, but done through the lens of the values that we care about, and at the same time, not inserting any of that nonsense.
	Yeah, I mean, we got attacked by the alphabet crowd, and I'm like going, this is not anti-anything, guys.
	I mean, this is a book about letting kids grow up to be kids.
	Let boys grow up to be strong fathers, strong husbands, strong pillars in their community.
	It's a pro-child book.
	That's all it is.
	It doesn't bash anybody.
	It doesn't bash any single group.
	Every day, these people on the left are looking for something to offend them.
	It reminds me of an old movie.
	That Marlon Brando was in, called The Wild Ones, I think.
	And he's a, you know, leather motorcycle dude in the 50s.
	And this old guy in front of the general store says, what do you guys have to complain about?
	He goes, well, what do you got?
	That's pretty much what we're living right now.
	It's just they're looking for anything to complain about something.
	And it's just this insanity has got to stop.
	And I keep telling people right now, I said, well, you got to wake up the lines.
	And that's why it's a test of lionhood.
	Stop being afraid and don't let fear, because government loves fear as a weapon.
	And I think another big killer happening in America, in fact the world, is apathy.
	People say, oh well, what can we do?
	Well, do something.
	Don't sit around.
	You know what you can do.
	But once again, I think fear is the driving force here that people just don't want to make a difference and it's too bad.
	But I'm plugging along.
	I'm going to keep doing movies.
	SorboStudios.com is a great place to go.
	It's where my wife's side is on, my side is on.
	I do movies that have hope, love, faith, redemption, laughter, things that Hollywood used to do and won't do anymore.
	But they better wake up and start doing some movies.
	I'm not telling them what movies to make, but why do you make it just one section that wants to just be divisive and angry and hate and over-sexualized?
	Why can't you go back to the old true and tried method that made Hollywood the banner of the world by doing movies that the good guy does win?
	That there is hope out there.
	There is redemption out there.
	There is a chance to have a better life than what's going on right now in this crazy world because I can't believe what we're doing to this country.
	It's just shocking to me.
	You know, in the 1940s, when you go back to the Walt Disney era that we're talking about, the 40s into the 50s, movies were made for families.
	They were made for people to go out.
	They were hopeful.
	And then you kind of see the cynicism rise up again in the 70s.
	In the 70s, Hollywood became super cynical, and it kind of makes sense.
	That's where the economy was.
	That's where the country was.
	I get it, right?
	I get it.
	but movies weren't offering hope anymore.
	Then, you know, towards then the 80s, that all flips around and the 80s, it's suddenly it's hopeful again.
	You know, you're getting back to the future.
	You're getting all these great Americana type films that are just positive and fun.
	If movies could actually be fun again, but it feels like we're trapped in another cycle of this downturn where we're embracing cynicism, where people are saying, oh, you know, again, I keep coming back to it.
	They constantly tell you that they're for equality, but they're not.
	They're actually for revenge and that nastiness and that hatred is seeping into the screen.
	Well, there's a celebration now of all these people that have really given up on life.
	They maybe failed once and they said, well, it's your fault, it's the government's fault, it's God's fault or a God they don't believe in.
	They want to blame everybody else instead of looking in the mirror because that's where the problem is, but they don't want to do that.
	So they want to come after you and they want to drag you down into that black hole that they're living in.
	When you get attacked on the internet and I get attacked, I feel sorry for these people more than anything else.
	It doesn't stop me from believing in the truth.
	But the truth is kryptonite to these people.
	And they've just given up.
	And I'm sure there's a common denominator amongst all of them.
	Whether it's a bad family life, bad relationship, no jobs.
	I don't know, maybe Soros is paying for them.
	It's crazy.
	I mean, it's just unbelievable that this is happening.
	And we got to fight back because look, we got to take our cities back.
	It's insane what we're doing.
	Defund the police, let people shoplift, let people attack people, you know, and beat them up and put them in, then arrest them and let them out the next day.
	Any way to go do it again?
	None of this stuff makes any sense in our country.
	A border with 10 million people have come across.
	How many people, are you kidding me that you don't think we're going to have a worse than 9-11 experience in every major city across this country somewhere down the road?
	Because from what I've read, and I don't know where these sources came from, I read the internet, they're estimating 500 to 800,000 terrorists have come into this country over the last three years.
	We're gonna quick break coming up here in one minute.
	You know, I gotta say, Walt Disney was up there warning us the communists were taking over Hollywood.
	He saw it on his movie sets.
	He saw what was going on.
	He tried to warn the country about this.
	What can I say, folks?
	Joseph McCarthy may have been the original mean tweeter, but you know something?
	He was right.
	McCarthy was right.
	The communists were taking over institution after institution after institution.
	Don't believe me?
	Why don't you go ask a guy by the name of Alger Kiss about that?
	Stay tuned.
	We'll be right back more with Kevin Sorbo.
	We're talking about communism and all of its ills here at Human Events Daily.
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	We're on now with Kevin Sorbo.
	People are saying, you know, this guy is a really strong guest.
	I said, what can I say, folks?
	He's got the strength of Zeus with him.
	Kevin, you are not only an actor, but also a filmmaker.
	You've got a new documentary out all about the China takeover of Hollywood.
	This is perfect because it's exactly what we're talking about in regards to this TikTok divestiture.
	Walk me through the documentary and what did you learn while making it?
	People are going to learn a lot by watching it.
	I've kind of known for years that China's influence in Hollywood.
	I mean, I don't know how much we can see of that right there, but this is the Hollywood takeover.
	You got it?
	Can you see it?
	Awesome.
	Perfect.
	It's a great movie.
	Go to Epic Times, okay?
	It's at Epic TV.
	Go to HollywoodTakeOver.com.
	It deals with how Hollywood is at such a major influence in the movies that are made and how they're made and what they can put in it.
	A perfect example is Maverick Top Gun with Tom Cruise.
	They did not want that Taiwan patch he had on his flight jacket and they made him take it off.
	And they're doing this all the time.
	If you talk bad about them as an actor or director, producer, they'll never let your movies in that city, in that country at all.
	Everything has to paint them in a positive light, in a good light.
	There's an interesting clip in there with Robert Downey Jr.
	when he's promoting Iron Man 3 or 4 or something there.
	And he says, and they told him, they told him to say these kind of things while he's in China, saying, you know what?
	He said, I almost feel like I'm Chinese.
	I love this country.
	I love everything it stands for.
	And I go, wow.
	And this is what they're doing.
	There was a great bit with Ricky Gervais when he hosted the Golden Globes.
	He's done it like four years in a row, and he laughs that they keep bringing him back, because he's not afraid to bash anybody.
	Christians, non-Christians, liberals, Republicans.
	And he looks out there in front of this big A-list of the actors and producers and directors and studio guys, and he says, you guys are all a bunch of whores.
	If ISIS had a film fund, you'd be the first to sign up.
	And you know what?
	He's not wrong.
	They would be.
	So what is China doing?
	That's one more way they're undermining American culture by making China look like this great, great, you know, they're the city on the hill.
	They're that light on that empire on the hill like what Reagan was talking about, but they say it's China instead, which is absolutely absurd, but they're doing it.
	And Hollywood will keep bending over back for these guys because it's all about money.
	They don't care about you.
	They don't care about your family.
	All they care about is money, even though they scream about socialism, right?
	Hollywood's a capitalist place.
	Let's not fool ourselves.
	So, this idea then, and it's so clear to me because I remember it's been almost 20 years since the first time I visited China, and learning about the CCP, it's amazing by the way that you're partnering with Epoch Times, because when I was over there, I was doing a study abroad and learning Mandarin and stuff, and I would always say, I want to learn more about the CCP.
	I've heard about them, I don't know what they are, I know Chairman Mao bad, but that's kind of about it, right?
	And I go to Chinese media, and oh, it's all pro-CCP.
	And I said, all right, well, let me go to Western media.
	Let me go read some of what they have to say.
	And clearly, clearly, the free world will be telling the truth.
	Nothing.
	They're also pro-CCP.
	And I said, well, hold on, hold on.
	Where's all the movies, right?
	We get all the World War II movies that you could ever want about every little aspect of World War II, little stories and big stories and everything about it.
	It's all on screen.
	Everybody can go watch any aspect of that war.
	But when you talk about the Chinese Communist Party, the fact that 50 million people were killed in the Great Leap Forward and the famine that ensued, the hungry ghosts, cannibalism breaking out wide, when you talk about the fact that even after the Communist Revolution, there was another revolution called the Cultural Revolution, Where the entire country was engulfed in a quasi-revolutionary communist civil war with the children running up and going after people.
	I said, wait a minute, why are there no movies about this?
	This is just, number one, it's history.
	Number two, it's very compelling and it's happened not even that long ago.
	Will we ever get a movie like that?
	Hollywood.
	I'd be surprised if they did.
	Look, I've got a script called Tears for China.
	And it's about the over 450 million forced abortions in that country.
	Forced abortions in that country.
	Do you think they'll ever let that movie be shown over there?
	But the reality of that, the vast majority of them were females.
	So what's happening in China right now, they have a female shortage.
	They're actually a population, now it's going to start going down in the opposite way, because it's something like eight men for every one woman out there.
	And I think they changed the laws now that you can have two kids.
	Last time I saw something so it's it's it the way it is now is if you were From the one child generation.
	So if you were a one child now, you can have more kids You know now you can have more kids.
	Okay.
	Well, they realize that they have a shortage going on We have a shortage of Europe has the negative growth and things as well Italy's in trouble Germany's in trouble all these places are in trouble the only population that's growing is the Muslim culture and I mean, everywhere they are, they're the ones, you know, they can have their five wives and have six kids with each one, but you look at white Europeans and even white Americans, I think it's less than the death rate or something like that I read, and it's going in a negative trend as well.
	Look, I've got to give a plug for this real quick because I do these Comic Con shows because of Hercules and Andromeda, but most people come to my table because it's about Let There Be Light, God's Not Dead, Soul Surfer, Miracle in East Texas, movies that I've been doing that have a positive message.
	So I'm going to do, I'm hosting a con called Rise Up Con.
	So check it out, go on riseupcon.com.
	And it's going to be in Sevierville, Tennessee, just south of Knoxville.
	If you check out the site, it's going to be a family and faith convention.
	We want all people to come.
	We're not bashing agnostics or atheists.
	We'd love you to come.
	A lot of actors you're going to recognize and know who they are, from John Schneider to Dean Cain.
	Just a lot of great people are going to be there.
	We have a charity golf event.
	Check it out and make it a family week because we also are next to Dollywood.
	So I hope people go to riseupcon.com.
	Join us at the end of May this year.
	The end of May RiseUpCon.com.
	That sounds pretty good.
	We'll have to talk to producers here.
	If we get a little remote broadcast or something, maybe go cover that.
	I don't know.
	We got Patreon Mobile as our main sponsor.
	We got other people coming in.
	We'd love you guys to show up for sure.
	Yeah, Glenn and the entire team over there.
	Lee, they're absolutely fantastic people.
	Huge supporters of the program.
	Love everything they do.
	Because those guys aren't afraid, by the way.
	Talk about not being afraid.
	Going back to your book.
	People not being afraid to stand up for what matters.
	And this has been a huge problem in our society.
	And I would actually like to go back to that.
	Because how is it How is it that the United States of America, the country that saved the world from communism, the country that won World War II, is going to turn around and then be afraid of offending somebody if you're going to stand up for what's true?
	And I think it's because we teach kids, and for decades now, several decades, we've been teaching that everybody needs to be non-confrontational, everybody has to be tolerant.
	I say we don't have a problem of too much Intolerance in the United States.
	We have a problem of too much tolerance.
	Well, I think tolerance from the right.
	Jack, I mean, come on, let's face it.
	The left that used to be the party of everybody's, you know, they don't even know what liberal, the term liberal even means.
	That means everybody's point of view is okay.
	The liberals are filled with anger and hate and they want to fight and they want to turn cop cars over, they want to get rid of police, they want to indoctrinate your kids, they want to break up the family, they want communism, all this stuff.
	So, I mean, that's where the fight is right now with these guys.
	The liberals used to be the ones, don't trust a man, don't trust a man.
	COVID comes along and everything the government said, all of a sudden, they're going, trust a man, it's science.
	And obviously, everything that they said was a lie after lie.
	I do gotta give a plug out for Rise Up again though, 'cause we got Brave Books is one of our sponsors, Cardio Miracle's another sponsor.
	We got, I mean, we have so many wonderful people.
	People go to riselovecon.com, you'll see all the good things coming there.
	So I hope you guys show up.
	We gotta fight to go on.
	The people that support the things that I do are the ones that support what you do.
	These are the Americans.
	These are the true patriots that love the country.
	Look at me, I got, we, I got right here, we got the Bible right here.
	We the Bible right here.
	He's a wonderful group of guys that make an amazing Bible that's leather bound and they have the Constitution inside the Bible.
	They got I mean, these guys do great work.
	We got to support what's going on with the positive companies in this country.
	And because there's too many crazy people that want to bring us down and tear us down.
	Look at California.
	8 million people have moved on 10 years 8 million taxpayers like me.
	I couldn't agree more.
	People say, we need the alternative to Hollywood.
	We need the alternative.
	And I would say, no, it's beyond that.
	We don't just need the alternative to Hollywood and all these companies.
	What we need to do is actually become the new one.
	Become the new, uh, whatever you want to call it.
	It's not Hollywood.
	We're going to become the new Hollywood and people are going to say what videos, what movies, what TV shows are coming out of this side and that those other guys, those woke guys, that stuff over there.
	No, we're not.
	We're not going to watch that anymore.
	Okay.
	That's going to go the way of the dinosaur.
	That's going to go the way of MySpace and all that stuff.
	We're not going to partake in it anymore.
	And it's as simple as that.
	And if people want to actually take action to do the things that will make this country better, that's what you have to do.
	Last minute, Kevin Sorbo.
	You know, we have to wake up the lions.
	Like I said earlier, the sheep are going to be the sheep.
	The people that don't even want to hear you.
	It's interesting you look at Donald Trump.
	When he was president, he did amazing things for this country.
	But that doesn't get reported.
	He's been attacked every single day for the last nine years.
	It's absolutely insane what they've done to this guy.
	And every liberal I meet might say, what policies of his did you not like?
	Well, he's a jerk.
	Jerk's not a policy.
	They can't name anything.
	They've been brainwashed by the public.
	Remember, before Trump announced his presidency, people loved him.
	The left loved him.
	They wanted him on the talk shows.
	They wanted him to do a guest spot on a movie, a TV show, whatever.
	The minute he went to the bad side, and this is all because of Hollywood, all because of TV and movies, where they portray anybody who's conservative, anybody who's a Christian, as the evil, as the moron, as the idiot.
	And dads, too.
	And dads, too.
	Kevin Sorbo, don't be afraid, folks.
	Lionhood, wake up the Lions.
	Wake up all the Lions.
	Where's Jack?
	Where's Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.
	Jack Pacific back live, Human Events Daily.
	Folks, I gotta tell you, world absolute flames.
	You see what's happening down in Haiti.
	Biodynamics, a complete and total, absolutely total disaster.
	But it cannot and will not ruin my day because I start my day with blackout coffee every single day.
	Folks, we've got breaking news here.
	And we've got Raheem Kassam who's on standby.
	I'll get his reaction to this in a second.
	Let me just read it from the Post Millennial.
	millennial New York City judge to pause Alvin Bragg's falsified documents case until the Supreme Court rules on immunity.
	This is the new motion that has been put forward.
	We know the Supreme Court is going to be scheduled to hear the arguments on presidential immunity on April 25th.
	Trump is now attempting to get the case essentially pushed back.
	The case was supposed to begin in just about 10 days.
	10 days time here.
	Rahim Kassam, editor-in-chief of National Pulse, you and I were just talking offline about these cases.
	Do you think it's possible, then, that the Trump immunity case could actually cause the Alvin Bragg—remember, this is the Stormy Daniels case, that I know you know—to be delayed?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I think when all of these things were first going on, and when all of these trial dates were being set, we still hadn't had the full force of the legal pushback, the foresight to look at what an appeals process would look like, and of course we've had all of these little nuggets dropping in between
	For instance, this last weekend we heard from Stormy Daniels herself that she refuses to pay the $670,000 that she owes Donald Trump.
	She's basically making herself, in the court's opinion, a hostile witness.
	So I'm not surprised that, once again, we saw what happened in Georgia earlier today.
	We've seen what happened with the Colorado case.
	That we're getting the deep state, if you will, kind of trying to even row a little bit back or maybe even defer these cases until after the election.
	That is pretty much the strategy that Trump's legal team has taken here and it's really started to pay off and pay dividends here and it's a great credit to them, especially when you consider how many legal cases they're fighting all at the same time.
	Well, that's very interesting.
	So we're going to have to see how that plays out.
	Now, this is a separate judge from, you know, keep track of all the judges, always interesting.
	But no, this is a separate judge from the civil case and also a separate judge from all the ones that we're seeing in D.C. Rahim, the main thing I wanted to bring you on today, and you've been sort of making the rounds in media, talking about this TikTok bill.
	I do have to ask you, as somebody who's been so focused on the CCP, probably the only guy in, well, you, myself, and Steve, the only guys in D.C. that are this focused on the CCP, of course, people remember the original theme song of the war.
	Probably I would say no.
	could still play it is take down the CCP.
	Did you ever think an anti-CCP bill like this would get such a stunning result in the U.S. House?
	It's a great question.
	Probably I would say no.
	I would say no, like to the extent for which we've seen the support for this bill today.
	And I have to say, a lot of people out there, and there will be a lot of people who have a lot of problems with this, I encourage them to go and read the bill, because I think the little snippets you see being posted by the likes of Thomas Massey And others on the internet are actually doing a disservice to the American public and how they're presenting this information.
	I did a short seven minute type video reading the entire bill this morning so people can can go and watch that or they can just go and read the bill itself.
	It's only 12 pages and it's very very specific.
	No, Joe Biden cannot use this to shut down X. No, and believe me, believe us, I'll speak for you Jack here as well, if there are any implications of that in this bill You and I would be the first to be censored as a result of it, and you and I therefore would be the first to oppose it.
	Those provisions are not in this bill.
	It's very specific about ByteDance, about TikTok.
	And so, you know, I'm glad that the Congress of the United States is finally doing something in the national interest of the United States.
	Of course, you and I could talk for hours and hours Yes, all of that is happening at the same time.
	about the push and pull, where the money's coming from, which army of lobbyists is fighting which other army of lobbyists on this issue.
	Yes, all of that is happening at the same time.
	But the grander picture of all of this are two things.
	Number one, this bill.
	And I have it right here.
	I've marked it up.
	I've gone through it.
	It does not include any provisions that can censor you or I or anybody watching this at home.
	And number two, it does instruct the United States to guard itself against a Chinese Communist Party-owned platform.
	Those are wins.
	Take the wins.
	So I guess the question, and I said in the opening, the question is why are so many Democrats for this?
	Because, of course, we've not seen Democrats side against China before.
	I think certainly there's a lot of elements and a lot of interest that want to see this done.
	And people need to remember as well, this is not a TikTok ban.
	It is a TikTok divestiture.
	One of the reasons, by the way, and they could do this, right?
	They could easily do this.
	So when anyone wants to do business in China, Okay, what you have to do, and I know this from working in Shanghai, that you need to set up a JV with a new company that is totally and wholly established within the People's Republic of China.
	And China, by the way, because it's a JV, takes a cut of that.
	They take a major partnership out of that.
	So every single company that you can think of from Disney, to IMAX, to all the big names that are operating in China.
	It's like Disney Shanghai, Disney Hong Kong.
	This is how they operate.
	Now, why couldn't just one time, one time, with a Chinese company, the United States government go forward and say, you need to set up an American entity.
	They could do that on their own under this bill, couldn't they?
	Yeah, there's actually a lot of things that could be done in order to secure Americans away from the Chinese Communist Party, and critically, to secure Americans' data away from the Chinese Communist Party.
	This bill doesn't actually deal with things like that.
	This bill is sort of an overarching, and as I say, it's a tight 12 pages.
	Go away and read it for yourselves, ladies and gentlemen.
	Don't take my word for it.
	And here's the other thing I'll say as I'm answering that question, is that all of these people who are out there today arguing in favor of leaving TikTok the way it is, effectively the Chinese Communist Party line, ask them if they've taken any campaign contributions Whether it's through the Club for Growth, whether it's from Jeff Yass, ask them that question, right?
	Because I can sit here today and say the National Pulse is wholly funded by our members.
	$8 on average a month from an ordinary member.
	We don't take money to do, you know, any lobby work, anything like that.
	We don't even put adverts on the site, right?
	So it's not like people can say, oh, well, you would say that because, you know, XYZ.
	I don't even have a TikTok account, right?
	There is simply no inducement on my side.
	That is not the case for these members of Congress who have actively opposed this bill.
	And you as the general public, you as the people who are, you know, they are answerable to you should be asking those questions of them.
	This bill sets up a lot of different things that could happen here, right?
	Now, it could be the case that divestiture occurs, but divestiture will probably require the acceptance of the Chinese Communist Party for that to happen.
	So it's actually the least likely thing that could happen here.
	But as you say, you could have joint ventures, you could have a way this company is split up, you could have a certain percentage, because the bill itself actually talks about the percentage ownership as well that is allowed for something like this.
	So right now it's 20%.
	You can go down to 10%, for instance, and be fine to operate in the United States. - 19% or 18%. - Exactly.
	If anything, this bill is too mild and weak on the Chinese Communist Party.
	But there's a lot that can come off the back of this.
	This is not just a simple like all the ban if they're not gonna ban it. - Well, and the dirty little secret here is why wouldn't they just do this?
	Why go through the rigmarole?
	Why go through having to fund the Club for China Growth and Kellyanne Conway and all those different things to go through?
	And it's because the dirty little secret is, and we've just got a minute until the break here, but The dirty little secret is they've been lying to all of us about how this data is being operated.
	They don't just have a backdoor to China.
	It is the door.
	It is the front door.
	It's the only door.
	All of your data is going directly to China under this.
	It's in complete circumvention of what their public statements have been, certainly flaunting U.S.
	law.
	I've actually heard, by the way, an interesting rumor There was that story last week that was running around that all of these teenagers were calling up the house and saying, oh, I'm going to commit suicide if TikTok is banned.
	I can't live anymore.
	I commit suicide.
	Apparently, that completely backfired, and a lot of Hill staffers are saying, yeah, that freaked our members out so much that they said, you know what?
	This is like digital opium, and we want to shut down the digital opium den as much as possible.
	So that could have even been... The same thing happened in the UK, by the way, with Huawei.
	And so, because China's just not very good at lobbying.
	Stay tuned, folks.
	We're going to be right back.
	Take a quick break.
	Raheem Kassam will be with us after the break.
	I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
	All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Human Events Daily.
	We're in West Palm Beach.
	We're going to be down here for the foreseeable future next couple of days.
	We've got Raheem Kassam on as our guest.
	We're talking through the political machinations of the TikTok divestiture, because that's what it really is, divestiture.
	Rahim, President Trump had a tweet up, a Truth Social post up about this, where it sounded as though he was opposed to the bill.
	Now, this of course was the same type of bill that his administration had lobbied for, and in fact had supported when he was in office to begin with, so it seems as though there's been a shift.
	Now, I can certainly understand in an election year, not wanting to come out on, again, something that could be perceived as incredibly unpopular.
	Is that what's going on here?
	Is it just politics that are driving what appears to be a big shift in policy?
	Yeah, and I just wanted to make mention of the fact that apparently, according to Jack Posobiec, the foreseeable future is only the next couple of days, which concerns me.
	I don't know what you know that I don't.
	But I'm glad you're down there enjoying the sunshine.
	I think there's certainly politics going on here, but it's not the kind of politics that necessarily everybody's thinking of.
	I think people are starting to get their heads around what's really going on here with the lobbyist armies being deployed on Capitol Hill from a great many sides, by the way.
	Don't get me wrong, there's not just lobbyists for TikTok who are on this.
	There's lobbyists for Zuckerberg and Facebook on this.
	There's lobbyists all over the place working this issue because whether we like it or not, TikTok is a gargantuan presence in the Western world right now and it spits off so much data and so much cash that everybody kind of wants a piece of the pie here.
	So Even for somebody like me who's had my head buried in this stuff for so very long, new nuggets of information are just constantly coming up.
	My phone has just been ringing off the hook all day long with information.
	Then, of course, I've got to sit down and think about like, OK, well, which ones do I trust?
	How many sources do I have on all these sorts of things?
	And this is genuinely one of the most complex situations that I've experienced.
	Just in terms of reporting about it in the last several years, because there are so many different actors at play here.
	But the one as it pertains to Donald Trump, as far as I'm concerned, is very simple, right?
	You've got the Club for Growth, the Club for China Growth we used to call it.
	I wish we would still call it that.
	The Club for China Growth is coming along with a lot of money that is being deployed by people like Jeff Yass, multi-billionaire, highly invested in TikTok.
	Funneling money through there to say to the Trump campaign.
	Hey, basically, we know you're short on cash.
	We need this policy change.
	We need this position change.
	You know, what's it going to cost to do it effectively?
	And in a campaign period you do have to make compromises.
	That is the very nature of politics.
	That is the very nature of being in a general election cycle.
	But I would caution this.
	If it can be shown that that money is coming from TikTok or TikTok investors, going through US 501c3s, C4s, whatever you want to call it, think tanks, activist groups, pressure groups, or lobbyists, and is ending up somehow in a political campaign, then that political campaign is going to be called an asset of the Chinese Communist Party in the run-up to an election.
	Now that's bad, obviously, From a narrative perspective, but we know what Biden and Garland are like.
	They will use that as a pretext to open investigations, to do more of their spying that they're already doing anyway, but this helps them even further and to say to the rest of the world, like, look, hey, the Chinese, the Chinese app has basically bought off the Trump campaign with this.
	So my attitude towards this is Trump should turn around, wash his hands of it.
	We've got an op-ed up from Will Upton on the National Pulse right now.
	He worked in the Trump Treasury Department.
	On this issue, on the TikTok ban, and he says this is exactly the bill we wanted.
	So I think President Trump and the Trump campaign need to kind of, and I'm hearing that the position is going to nuance by the way, but they need to come back and say, okay, you know what, we were in favor of TikTok ban, we remain in favor of TikTok ban, and no amount of money can change our minds on that.
	That, personally, is where I would be at.
	You know, and the way I look at it is this.
	So we're in a billionaire fight.
	We're in this fight, and to your point as well, the Chinese Communist Party is their lobbyists.
	Zuckerberg is out there.
	I'm sure, by the way, Pierre Omidyar and The Intercept and all those guys are going to be coming out as well, trying to paint this, you know, TikTok as, well, it's actually a Republican app and, you know, therefore, you know, and all this other stuff.
	But, you know, when it comes down to it, when it comes down to it, it's not just Because people always say Cui Bono, right?
	Cui Bono, who benefits?
	But I do think that as operatives, as people who are trying to be activists in any of this, we should also remember Cui Malo, who is harmed.
	And in this situation, who's harmed is unquestionably the Chinese Communist Party.
	Because whatever they're going to have to do is going to Yeah, and I think, you know, you look at the people who I consider to be on the right side of this issue, you know, I look at Laura Loma put out a big, big tweet this morning on the subject.
	I think Kane over at Citizen Free Press really has his finger on the pulse on this stuff as well.
	Look, I'm not saying that people need to take other people's word for it.
	I'm not even saying people need to take my word for it.
	But this issue is a lot more complicated than just like, hey, there's this app.
	Should we ban it or not?
	Because there are so many people with so much money being thrown around on this.
	And I've got to tell you, for the people that don't know, there are people in Washington, D.C.
	who will represent any interest you want from a measly 5K, right?
	And I know 5K is a lot of money to a lot of people, but in DC it's not a lot of money for something like that.
	And these guys are dealing with tens of millions of dollars in lobbyist cash right now to try and pull this bill, pull this issue in lots of different particular ways.
	So that's what you have to consider at the end of the day.
	Where is the money coming from?
	Like you say, Quibono, but also in my attitude towards like, oh, but is it going to end up in the hands of Google or Microsoft or Disney or whatever?
	It's like, well, yeah, that is perfectly feasible that that situation could occur.
	I would still argue that as American companies, although we might not like the way that a lot of these American companies function, they're still here.
	They're still in America.
	There's still oversight.
	Right?
	There isn't that with the Chinese Communist Party.
	There isn't that with ByteDance.
	So I'm not saying, you know, that this is the solution to all our problems, but it is a solution that takes us further away from the CCP.
	And I think that's what we all want.
	And you and I have a friend who is going to be going behind bars in just a couple days' time.
	Peter Navarro, who fought the CCP more than anyone.
	It is unquestionable to me that that's why he is being sent there.
	Rahim Kassam, The National Pulse, please go follow him.
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