THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 31 — Redpills and Blackpills? Charlie on Whatever? Open Borders For Empanadas?
In this week’s ThoughtCrime, Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Andrew Kolvet, and Blake Neff engage with many compelling questions, including:-What does Charlie have to say about his visit to Gomorrah on the dating podcast "Whatever?"-What are all the various "pills" people talk about online?-Why do so many liberals think we should have permanent open borders so they can visit Thai restaurants?THOUGHTCRIME streams LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday night at 8pm ET.Go to https://twc.health/...
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Okay, everybody, happy Thursday.
It is ThoughtCrime Thursday.
Back by popular demand, Mr. Blake.
It's popular demand every single week, but has the public made any demands?
Oh, there is huge demand.
Is it one of those things where you get a letter in the mail with like the clipped out letters and they're like, you have to bring Blake back or someone dies.
It's similar to that.
Andrew is here.
Hello, hello.
Happy to be back.
Not by popular demand, but Stuck with me.
I can't use that for everybody and the chairman of the Taylor Swift fan committee is Jack Pasovic.
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We at the Committee of Whiteness have announced the first official national ambassador of White History Month, Taylor Swift.
Congratulations to all the Swifties out there.
We listened to your comments and we've decided to put the whole controversy to bed Give yourselves a pat on the back.
For our first topic, Blake, what is our first topic?
Our first topic, we're going to say whatever we want about whatever.
You're the star of the show this time, John.
I know you're not used to that.
You were there too, Blake.
I was physically present.
You could tell your version of events.
I guess I could.
I don't think my version is very interesting.
So I went on the viral podcast called Whatever.
And I solicited a lot of advice beforehand.
I texted a lot of people.
I said, hey, I'm going on the show.
Not exactly something I'm used to.
And the consensus was like, hey, it's a long podcast.
And so I, you know.
It's the Lord of the Rings of podcasts.
Seven hours.
I did not go for seven hours.
We did Three hours, maybe?
Two and a half, three hours?
Three hours, basically.
Three hours, and people's advice were like, look, it's easy to get fired up, try to keep your cool, and I thought that was really good advice.
You gave that advice, Andrew gave that advice, and I think I did that.
Yeah.
I'll just kind of give some people behind the scenes.
Everything was super fair in how they set it up, so there was no kind of like surprise or gotcha.
You show up, and My favorite thing, it's just in, like, an apartment.
It's in a kind of, like, weed-stenched kind of, like, dorm?
It's in this town in California.
Isla Vista?
I wasn't familiar with the city that it was in.
Yeah.
But it seemed really, like... There's, like, a ramen place below.
People were dressed weird.
I can't imagine anyone would want to live in this city.
It really frightened me.
So, hold on.
First of all, that show is not in Santa Barbara.
It's like the collective of Santa Barbara.
That's actually a town called Goleta.
And actually, if you want to be more specific, it's in a place called Isla Vista, which is known as like the party area of UCSB.
So a UC school.
But, yeah, you're right that you kind of drive in through where all the college kids are from.
What's UCSB short for, Andrew?
It's the party area of a school that's in – where is that?
Now, I will say that the show does have symmetry with the local area.
I have to say it's not as if – Well, that's – yeah.
I'm just being honest.
It's not as if – It's not as if you walk the streets of Isla Vista and you're walking into, you know, the Catholic podcast, right?
You're right.
Like, so Isla Vista is a famous party capital in any school system.
I mean, it's right up there with ASU, which you'll know even better, Charlie.
Downtown Tempe could host this podcast, I will say that.
It's the classiest building in at least a 10 block radius in any direction.
They're trying to be in the neighborhood, in the UCSB system, kind of in the vibe.
It's a nice building, it's not bad, but when you do get into the building, it does smell like I don't know.
I don't know how else you're going to.
It's just factual.
And look, so you walk in and they got, you know, the typical like ramen noodle open 24 hour type of thing.
And so we walk in, Andrew, Blake and I, and all the ladies are already seated.
And it was a little tense.
They were waiting for you.
It was like a lion's den.
It was.
It was tense.
So, you know, I introduced myself to everybody on the On the panel.
And so, Daisy did some research ahead of time.
Daisy did a great job.
But it's hard to put names to faces.
So I knew there were two pornographers that were going to be on the panel.
And then I knew there were going to be some left-wing activists.
And so, I didn't know who... And there were some OnlyFans people separate from the actual porn people?
Wait, wait.
Now I'm confused.
When you say pornographers, do you mean people who, like, produce it?
Or actual porn stars?
See, I don't like the word star, so... It's always star.
Is there, like, porn character actors?
Or just, uh, participant?
Worker?
Porn participant?
Porn extra?
So, the... No, you're not an extra.
The extra... Blake is always the extra.
Adult film actress.
I hear all of you over there.
I hear all of you over there.
Porn participant.
Okay?
Is that... Is that okay?
Porn participant?
Well, because pornographer means, like, something else.
That's all I mean.
Sure, they're not just consumers, let's put it that way.
I was the audience of the show, not the consumers.
I didn't know who was who, okay, and maybe I should have gone in.
And so I go around the table, I introduce myself, and I said to my head, I said, okay, who are the porn people?
Because I didn't know, right?
This is before they introduce their title and name.
And so, you know, I shook the hands of the people next to me.
So I'm sitting around the table.
Can we get a picture before I do this of me with the...
Yeah, I got it.
And by the way, I will say that I actually have a heart for a lot of these women.
I feel so sorry for them.
And that is not exaggeration.
I left feeling sad.
This is not me making fun of them.
I actually don't love the whole humiliation genre that comes out of this.
I think it's destructive.
I don't like it.
I don't think I indulged in that or engaged in it.
Right, Blake?
But I do think this is funny.
This part is very funny.
So I'm thinking of myself in my head, and again, it is as tense as it can be.
That's not a great picture, but... That's from my vantage point, though.
I was right behind the production computer.
Can we get a screen grab?
So there's seven of these women, and I know that two of them work for some sort of a progressive left-wing thing.
I know that two of them are pornographers.
One of them is some sort of a Wiccan.
And the other one... No, I'm not kidding.
And then the other one is some form of just, like, OnlyFans Pokemon thing.
She did look like one, kind of.
No, no, so I figured that one out quickly.
So I'm in my head in the five minutes... Wait, wait, wait.
Wait, hold on.
Is there Wiccan porn?
Is that... Or am I getting that mixed up?
I wouldn't know.
That's a much better picture to put up.
So, I'm sitting there, and then there's some sort of very sweet girl in a Prussian helmet.
I think she was just the staff, right?
Yeah, but they keep her in the shot, and she kind of reacts to things.
They had a lot of helmets there.
Like, off-screen, there was, like, Roman helmets, Greek helmets.
So, this is a perfect shot.
So, this is around the table, and this is how it works and operates.
And so, and the five minutes before, and before people introduce myself, I say, you know, who are the porn people?
And I literally was like, which one are the porn people?
I said, OK, well, it's definitely not... You can make a game show out of that.
No, I said, it's definitely not the girl that looks like she's 13 next to me.
And I said, it's, you know, foolish.
Foolish, Charlie.
And I said, the Pokemon girl is that one.
I said, I think, I think the girl next to me is one of the progressive people.
And I said, the girl whose name is Angel, but is all tatted up.
I think she's a progressive.
I'm totally wrong, by the way.
I could not have been 100 percent.
Do not try and fit people into a mold on the show of whatever.
And so you're so you're trying to play pick the porn star, basically.
It's like, where's Waldo?
All I know, this is before they introduce themselves, the five minutes before, so all I know is that there's these young ladies and two of them are active porn participants, some of which, by the way, win awards.
And so by process of elimination, I'm like, it's no way this girl next... Do you think the voting on those awards is like fair and objective or do you think it's a corrupt awards process?
Definitely, they use mail-in ballots for the porn awards.
Totally rigged, 3am ballots.
Can I add a piece of the backstory here, Charlie?
Because I'm actually the one that set this up for Charlie.
And actually, Jack, you should probably go do it.
It was you!
You're responsible for this.
I don't regret doing that.
No, it was great.
It was great.
Andrew's actually friends with all of them.
What?
No, no.
But for the record, none of these girls actually live in Santa Barbara.
But they all come in from Santa Barbara.
But Brian, who's the host, sends me all the Instagrams, right?
Like a couple of days before and like, hey, here's Charlie.
This is going to be Charlie's panel.
And I clicked into two of the profiles and I'm thinking to myself, my Instagram algorithm is going to get so screwed up.
People are going to think I'm watching things that I'm not watching.
And so I instantly send this to Charlie's I have a chat with Charlie and his wife and I said, please view these together so that you know that Charlie's not looking at these.
Erica, you should probably do this on your phone.
It's a true story.
I said it to Charlie and his wife together in full disguise.
- I totally did.
I said it to Charlie and his wife together in full disguise.
I said, this is show prep.
So if you wanna like browse through these and it's the Eric, Eric is going like, oh gee, like what's going on here?
And what's crazy is even Charlie, I found this out since is there.
So you can kind of see the girl.
So you got the girl with the pink hair next to her.
She is a girl with brown hair and a very low-cut top, and she was actually a progressive activist, is what she said.
I forget her name.
Maybe you remember, Charlie.
She didn't offer this up, but she used to do OnlyFans.
Oh, is that right?
So I thought she was one of the porn people.
I thought that... No, I know, of course, I'm wrong.
I know.
She's graduated to normal politics.
No, I know, but she had the lowest cut and I said, you know, and that's fine.
Again, I'm not, I'm not doing the preachy thing.
I'm just, I'm just playing the inside baseball because, you know, you want to know, all right, who here, you know, who is in what position?
I felt, I didn't feel like, all right, which one of you are the porn, right?
Like, which one of you are the porn actresses or whatever?
So I thought that would be a bad opening.
So, see, what I did is I asked where people, where they were from.
So then I ask around and the young lady, two to my left, is in the all red.
I thought she was the witch, but I had it narrowed down to two Wiccans.
The one that was tatted up, the Wiccan was actually a very sweet woman.
I don't know if she's Wiccan or not, but if she is, do you know that for sure?
I didn't know that.
Someone said she's a witch.
Someone said she's a... Her Instagram is very... would lead you to believe such things.
I don't know if Blake wants to bring it up, but...
Yeah, okay, I don't want to get into that, but I don't think it's too far of a stretch, right, saying that she flirts with the underworld?
I think everyone there flirted with the underworld.
Okay, fair enough.
I'm going to go more, I'm going to get deeper into this, but the moral of the story is don't judge an OnlyFan model by the book of the cover.
Don't judge.
And so I go around and they start introducing themselves.
And they go all the way around Pokemon Girl first.
She was very sweet.
The Filipino Pokemon Girl was very sweet.
I didn't like how they were picking on her.
How many books did you read?
It wasn't how many books she read.
How many books could she name?
Not many.
It was less than 10.
Maybe she's dyslexic.
I don't know.
I thought... I don't like picking on the weak.
I don't, okay?
I don't... If someone comes out... I know, Blake, you're super smart.
You have an IQ that's beyond anything.
And it's just... I didn't like it.
I actually felt very sorry, and I... She actually had the best answer on the woman question, and she had the best answer on the only fan.
She says, I do this to support my family.
Which, again, I don't...
I don't think that's a good reason to make OnlyFans, but it was almost, I sensed as if, like, please help me get me out of this.
I don't know if we asked her, but she at least gave the impression she would, like, stop doing it.
No, she did.
And she wasn't, like, bragging on it.
And she also said, well, my politics are a little bit more in the middle, which is probably code that she's like a raging white right winger.
And I asked the people, what's a woman?
And she's like, well, I'm a woman.
I'm like, that's the best answer I've heard.
Yeah, go ahead, Andrew.
She also said she voted for Joe Biden and she wasn't going to vote again for Joe Biden.
Yeah, no, that's right.
Are we talking about that one?
No, the Wiccan.
That was the witch.
And the witch was very sweet, actually.
And so, anyway, I go around and they're going around the corner and all this, you know, I was like, oh my goodness, wait, there's only one person who said they're in adult.
And then they get to Molly next to me.
And I thought for sure Molly was like maybe 14 years old.
That she had to sign all these different consent forms.
And she is probably one of the more forthright individuals on the panel.
High on openness, I think, is the technical term social scientists use.
Yeah, let's just play cut 65.
I think that that's helpful at this point.
If you could be with your boyfriend currently, and I waved a magic wand and I said you could make a million dollars a year and never do porn again, would you?
No.
He's used the wand.
You can make a million dollars a year.
You don't have to do, you know, the adult content.
Well, the thing is, I wouldn't have to do it.
That would be great, but I would still want to do it.
I mean, personally, like, I'm an exhibitionist.
I love, like, putting my sexual self out there for other people to see, for other people to, like, you know, touch themselves to, have fun with.
I love it.
Can I ask you a question?
Since you're about presenting yourself to the world, do you have a good relationship with your father?
Okay, here we go.
No, I don't talk to him.
I'm not surprised.
So it turns out she's the most active porn person of them all.
Very proud of it.
But here's the thing.
I didn't realize the incentive structure until after you spoke with Alex Clark.
No, this is fascinating.
I actually think we have this clip somewhere if I can find it.
So apparently the vast majority of the audience is male.
And they.
Care enough to spend money to make comments during the viewing of the live stream and that sort of thing?
These people would spend more to have one comment be read aloud on the stream than I spend on food in a month.
$200.
$200!
So then the girls apparently all report that their OnlyFans go up and the downloads of their videos and their income goes up.
So in retrospect, if you're going on that show in order to boost your brand and to boost revenue, I hate to say it, but I think Molly might have been like the smartest of all of them.
You know, by just like putting that out there, you know, and frankly, she dressed in a very provocative way.
If you were in the if you were there, you would know what I'm talking about.
We tried in some of the edits that we put on social media to kind of blur some of that out.
But, you know, poor Charlie here.
I mean, I'm not kidding.
So we get in there and she's sitting right next to Charlie.
And I was talking to producers like and I kind of figured it out.
I was like, wait, maybe I can move her.
Because she's going to be in all of the shots with Charlie.
And, you know, it's basically like a see-through top.
And Charlie's sitting there and I could tell a little like, Charlie, just keep your eye line up here, please.
By all means.
I thought my eye control was 10 out of 10.
You did very well on that one.
10 out of 10 discipline.
But it was like.
Fascinating.
I mean, come on.
I tried to prove her, but apparently it wasn't against YouTube standards, so they vetoed me.
I guess I probably could have pushed more, but it was a very, like, quiet environment, and I was trying to be respectful to this new surrounding that we had entered.
So that's the backstory there.
I will say this.
And I, if they'll have me back, I will return.
First of all, completely underestimated how many people watch the clips of this program.
I really don't think many people watch the seven hours, but the clips I've received more positive text messages and emails.
I'm very thankful for everyone's prep.
Daisy, everyone did really great.
And my wife, and everyone, and Blake, and Andrew.
I thought we handled it well.
And I say this, and Alex and I had this, really, Alex Clark had this connection.
I left with sadness.
And that's not a joke.
The fact that there's even that many people who believe what they believe and they're okay with what they're okay with.
What stood out to me the most, and I kind of predicted this would happen because it happened with Michael Knowles too when he went on, early on they ask your relationship status.
And, you know, you just described, you know, I'm married.
You talked about your relationship with your wife, how much you loved your kid, and they just found it incredibly sweet.
Like, it melts their hearts to hear that.
And there were a few other times when you just talked about, you know, how, you know, what your dating history was and such of that.
And they actually all love that stuff.
Even...
Even these people, really deep down, they want a conventional true love story.
They actually want a Hallmark movie.
All this stuff, you know, that they say they're fine with, or it's completely compatible with everything.
I think there is a high amount of denial, or they do realize it's suboptimal, because they essentially want to have the Yeah, they're suckers for the romantic.
And that was clear.
meet someone you really love, marry them, be with them for the rest of your life.
And yet they either are incapable or unwilling to make the leap that would make that happen.
Yeah, they're suckers for the romantic.
Yeah.
And that was clear.
Jack, you are one of the most viral and you understand virality.
Just kind of riff on your take on the whatever podcast.
It's cultural power because some people might be watching this or listening.
Like, what are you talking about?
What is this?
Why is this?
Why, Charlie, would you go on a podcast to talk to pornographers?
Help explain all this.
It's easily, I would say, the breakout show in terms of virality of 2023.
2023.
The first podcast that you've really seen being made specifically for the clips.
I mean, look, we do this show for clips.
We do all of our shows.
Clipping is a part of what we do.
Social media, of course, is always the backbone of pretty much everything that we run on.
We're obviously live right now.
But I really feel that that show just presented something different.
And so usually the reason that whatever, and of course, you know, directly tied with TikTok and the prevalence of image over content of quick hits.
I I mean you're really looking for I mean, we're talking micro micro hits here.
So 15 seconds 25 seconds.
That's really all they need.
Someone said something boom.
There's a reaction.
That's it.
So they're having these long, drawn-out sessions, I believe seven hours.
I think you left around the three-hour mark.
And the reason they do that is because they're looking for those golden nuggets somewhere within there.
And they must have some team on the back end really digging that out.
And I'm sure, of course, at this point they've got fans that do the same.
And, of course, one of the big things that a lot of guys will do is they'll go on there and name ten books or something.
It's kind of one of the viral clips that has come out of this and similar podcasts where you're bringing up people that don't usually debate in a political context or really any context.
And you can score cheap points, cheap pops or cheap heat, as they would say in pro wrestling.
But I would say, and this came up, by the way, during Calendar Gate.
You guys remember Calendar Gate and all that ridiculousness from the Christmas season.
And the concept of one of the things that the Calendar Girls actually responded back, they said, well, what about the Whatever podcast?
So the Whatever podcast is girls in, you know, scantily clad.
Sometimes they even go more than when you were on, actually.
I think they may have dressed up a little bit because they knew Charlie Kirk was coming.
And, and so, um, they said, well, if you go on that show and you're looking for a virality, then isn't that kind of participating in the same thing?
And this was something that I thought that you did very well because when you went in there, you played it quite differently.
You weren't looking for the virality of, oh, I'm going to go dunk on porn stars.
You went for a different approach of saying, I'm gonna approach you in a way to be a witness, to be a witness to a different type of life, to be a witness to married life, to be a witness to fatherhood, and what, I thought you have a daughter as well, so obviously that's, I have two boys, so I have to imagine that's something that you obviously think about.
And furthermore, just the idea of being open about your faith in Christ, and this is something, of course, that we see Christ as well do in the Gospel of Luke.
And, you know, don't you know this woman is a sinner?
How dare you let her wash your feet?
And Christ saves her through her belief in that moment.
And so this is clearly something that I think is a little bit different.
And if I were to go on something like that, I think I'd try to play it the same way.
Yeah, if they'll have me back, I will return.
I think Andrew will say that, you know, they would do that.
We don't have the clip at the end.
I shared the gospel.
I said, Jesus loves you.
Accept Jesus into your life.
It will transform you.
And again, I, It was the first, I'm trying to think, yeah, I think it was the first time outside of kicking out that crazy person of the event a couple years ago that I've ever met a pornographer and I just, they're broken people and they need Jesus and I don't want to speak too much for them but I think that they're suppressing what they know is wrong.
Anyway, you guys can check out the clips.
We're going to be posting more and more of it.
It's a seven-hour marathon.
We were there for three hours of it, and at least from what we've seen, the clips from that conversation have been viewed 20, 30, 40 million times already.
That's a conservative number already.
Okay, let's get to the next topic.
Alright, it's time to talk about pills, Charlie.
Oh, really?
So everyone calls me Black Pill Blake, but we ever actually explain what that is?
No, no, no.
Bud Light Blake.
Oh, they also called me Black Pill Blake before that, and after that, and probably during it too.
Pretty sure Black Pill Blake was, you dubbed him that, Charlie, like Week 2.
I think that was like a week one or a week two.
That's right.
But, you know, this is an internet... But we never actually explained what it meant.
Yeah, we never explained it.
This is an internet-aware show, but, you know, we have... People on Rumble probably aren't all familiar with it.
And there's been a large number of pills at this point.
Uh, and I'm amazed at how quickly it spread.
I think, uh, one of our guests that we had on recently said, you know, he was, he was an older guy and he said, you know, we'd red-pilled his son, I believe.
Mm-hmm.
And... You know, he was a Naperville city council member who just casually says, yeah, you red-pilled my son, Charlie.
Yeah.
So we're getting pretty deep here.
Yeah.
So everybody, I think most people generally know the, the phrase red-pilled.
And Red Pill, of course, comes from the Matrix and, you know, the famous scene where Morpheus says to Neo, do you want to take the Red Pill or do you want to take the Blue Pill?
The blue pill means you stay in Wonderland and you remain blissful ignorance of the illusion, whereas you take the red pill, you go down the rabbit hole, and what we would say in red pilling is you embrace those sometimes painful truths about and what we would say in red pilling is you embrace those sometimes painful truths about our reality and realize that there are many things that we live in in
And so those are the kind of the ones that I think have really, as you say, reached mainstream, I think, penetration.
But there's different layers of this now that people have gone on to add to.
And the two big ones, there's a lot, you're right, but the two big ones are white pill and black pill. - Well, yeah.
Well, before we even get into White Pill, the actual original is Red Pill, Blue Pill, which just comes from The Matrix.
People are young enough, they probably don't remember The Matrix anymore, if there are younger viewers.
But, you know, back in the day, in the 90s, action movies were good films, and you sometimes wanted to watch them.
And one of the action movies that was pretty good was The Matrix.
It came out in 1999, which I have bad news.
That is now 25 years ago.
Oh my goodness.
But it was a movie and it had a very famous scene in it.
Morpheus.
We'll play it quick.
We have it?
It's great.
Clip 90.
This is your last chance.
After this there is no turning back.
You take the blue pill.
The story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.
You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, that, from there, we got the term red pill, meaning you're going to pursue truth.
Yeah, and I think the original use of it was kind of in online dating, manosphere-type stuff, so I think the original red pill was, yeah, it was like pick-up artists, kind of these weirdos who were saying, like, this is the way women really are, the stuff you're told about dating is not true, women actually like
Alpha males as they say XYZ and that's what the original red pill was and then that was so tied up with politics this spread into Getting red-pilled is realizing other lies in life.
So a lot of the You know kind of diversity is our strength that applied a lot to a lot of the stuff that Trump shattered in the GOP Was pushing red-pilled truths that they'll just tell you diversity is amazing open borders is amazing all these Things you're not allowed to know, and then you embrace it, and you're red-pilled.
If you just sort of believe very normie stuff, just using the lingo they would use, then you're blue-pilled.
But then, we get a million other pills that spin off this.
Yes!
So, black-pilled.
Red-pilled is just, you should know the truth, and then, you know, you can act on it.
Black-pilled is, you know, you know the truth, but it doesn't matter!
You can't change anything!
Because the truth is so heavy.
It's over!
The West has fallen!
We're all gonna die!
A big, by the way, aspect of this for a lot of people in the way Michael Malice uses it, of course, is specifically talking about the media and specifically saying, do you believe the things that you see on TV or not?
And that's actually a very good heuristic for this.
Yeah, and so people will say red pill a lot.
For example, Candace Owens' original name online was Red Pill Black before she even went as Candace Owens.
And so her whole idea is that she wanted the red pill black Americans.
But there's a whole tree.
Do we have that image where the red pill then can lead you to the white pill and lead you to the black pill?
It's a different image than that one.
Oh, we have one from the ADL.
The ADL got way into this.
And there are some really weird ones out there.
For some reason, they call this extremist.
Like, I don't understand exactly what's extremist about this.
Well, they have some pretty strange ones.
I think the strangest I've seen, and I'm going to warn you, this is kind of gross.
So shield your ears.
Oh, Blake.
No, no, no.
We talked about this.
No, it's too late.
So there's one that some people invented called the dog pill.
You're most.
It's the belief that women have, you know, so maybe like the women that you'd have on the whatever show have a carnal relations with their canine pets or desire it.
And the less said about that, the better.
And I only bring that up because unfortunately it's while it may have been invented as a joke, I have met people in real life who believed it was real.
and this damaged their real relationships with real people.
So you can take too many pills on the internet and eventually it'll wreck your life just like oxy pills or something.
What you're actually describing, Blake, is the fact that the internet can be a really I was going to say, trans would be one of those social contagions that's an idea pathogen that's spread through TikTok videos, right?
And a lot of young people that are susceptible to being influenced.
Yeah, well, fair enough.
And I mean, a lot of this stuff used to happen on Reddit, right?
But here's the pill treat, Charlie, that you were talking about.
It's the red pill on one side, embrace truth.
Blue pill, remain in the blissful ignorance of illusion.
Now, that's directly back to the film, the clip that we just
The painful truth of reality, then you have another branch off there, and there's white pill, where everything is possible, you're full of optimism, you feel like you can change the world for the better now because you have the truth, but then there's black pill, like black pill Blake, where you descend into nihilism, everything is lost, woe is me, there's no point in caring about anything anymore.
And Blake is not that way, although Blake does have a tendency to get that way about some topics.
You do see this a lot, though.
I was going to say, you see a lot of this just online or even in the pundit class, where people will say, oh, who cares about the election?
Don't worry about this.
They're never going to let Trump win again.
Or even if he does win, nothing's going to happen.
Why should you vote?
You can't vote our way out of this.
And I see this from time to time and time.
And it's like, Okay, what you're essentially doing is acting as a demotivator for people that are actually trying to win.
Or they'll say, "Totally check out, go do nothing, go live off the grid, and go live as a peasant and raise chickens," or whatever.
And all of that's fine.
But my point here is, if we leave the field of battle, guess what, boys and girls?
That's not going to change the people who are in charge of our politics now.
So Jack, you would know, are there, has the left invented their own pills just because of how popular this is?
Have they invented like a pink pill or a rainbow pill or something?
I don't know.
I've not seen anything like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would, that would be an interesting way to, to come at this.
I haven't seen any other pills, but I'm just super against the black pill.
In fact, I would go so far as to say that the black pill is being pushed by the left.
I think that 2016, Jack, really put a lot of black pill energy away.
I mean, the fact that Trump won, there was a lot of black.
I mean, that's why I think it's helpful to remind people of 2016.
It should be because it's very tempting to want to engage in.
And we hear it all the time.
We get emails.
Charlie, it's over.
The country is captured.
You know, there's some people that go on Twitter every single day.
It's over.
It's terrible.
Stop it.
Now, you can go the other way, which is like hopium white pilling.
Talk about that.
Jack, where everything is always good, no matter what, and some of the... I don't even want to use the letter of the alphabet, but you know what I'm talking about?
Is that, no, no, no, there's a plan, and it's actually really good.
Yeah, there is no plan.
Yeah, Trump is still secretly the president, and we're living under military contingency operations, and, you know, this is all a hoax.
No, okay, no, right?
There's a lot of work to do.
Um, I think that would be cool.
I think it would be weird.
It wouldn't make much sense.
We're wasting a lot of money in Ukraine, if that were true, by the way.
Uh, so I'd be pretty against President Trump if he were doing those things.
Um, but, and, and the border's completely out of control, so I just don't see how it makes any sense.
But, you know, really what it comes down to, really what it comes down to, by the way, in the chat, our, uh, I should say, our producers are saying, oh, yes, yes, I'm saying it.
The left's pills are puberty blockers or plan B. So they have actual pills, where the right has conceptual pills.
Or benzos.
- And Benzo, Benzos, SSRIs, all day long. - Your mom takes the SSRIs and the Benzos, and then she decides that she loves the puberty blockers for her kids. - Yes, you don't want to take the Hopium, and the Hopium, by the way, and this was something that there was a certain by the way, and this was something that there was a certain Fox News host who would come on after Tucker that used to always be Oh, everything's perfect.
Everything's wonderful.
Tick tock.
The deep state's about to be done.
Just two more weeks.
The indictments will be unsealed.
And I remember quite frankly, I'm just going to say it during the entire administration.
this was a huge detriment to the people that were actually trying to get things done and actually trying to fight Russiagate when it was happening, actually trying to fight so many things because it's a demotivator.
And you have all these people sitting around saying, "Oh, well, we don't have to do any work.
We don't have to knock on doors.
We don't have to help Scott Pressler.
We don't have to get involved with Turning Point Action." Because it's all planned out behind the scenes. - This is so important because we as a show, we juggle with this, right?
Because sometimes you can get two black pill, you can get two white pill, and you have to try to stay between.
For example, the black pill take is Congress will never be reformed and they're a bunch of terrible people.
The white pill is, no, no, no, just don't, just, hey, there's a secret... They're trying their best!
Or there's a shadow government, and there's really... RFK Jr.' 's gonna come back, or not RFK Jr., JFK Jr.
on a horse.
Yeah.
Then there's the Clear Pill, and I don't know what the Clear Pill is, because it's a Curtis Yarvin thing, and his essay describing it is five parts long, and so I have not read it.
We should have him back on the show.
We should, for sure.
By the way, it rated very well.
Of course it did.
I don't know what it is other than that he created it and he says that one dose will clear your whole political mind, but I don't know what the dose is.
Let me guess.
You take the clear pill and all of a sudden you have dreams of a technocracy quasi-dictatorship.
Something.
Or like FDR is overthrown and we bring back Jacobites.
So, you know, we kind of talked about my POV during the whatever podcast.
I mean, I had a whole POV during the Yarvin interview because like the press is just chomping at the bit for Charlie to say something like, yeah, you know what?
A dictatorship sounds great right now.
Just to just to hear him say that.
And by the way, Yarvin, who's just an intellectual, very compelling in a lot of ways, very outside of the box thinker.
And he is he is kind of clear thinking in the sense that he doesn't feel burdened.
I mean, wouldn't you agree, Charlie, he doesn't feel burdened by almost like American tradition.
Like he's he's so past thinking that we have the best system in the world that he's looking for ways to optimize it, like take it into the 21st century.
How do you know what you said?
Frightening prospects.
People should listen to that episode, by the way.
It was really, really well received and it did really well.
Tons of downloads.
But I mean, if you want to kind of like change your paradigm and change the way you think, he's that guy.
I mean, he's thinking in a way that just feels completely.
I think a lot of people will be terrified.
But, you know, I'm sitting there during that interview going like, OK, so, you know, don't don't agree with some of this stuff.
And you didn't.
It's unworkable on some level in our current system, but I digress.
Yeah.
I looked it up and it's, it's really not related to the types of pills we're talking about.
When he says clear pill, he's talking about like a system of government.
And, um, I I've read a bunch of Yarvin and I think a lot of his nomenclature sometimes is useful.
Like when he talks about the cathedral as sort of being the, um, the dominant, um, information source in our world.
And so you have like the cathedral and the regime and all of these different elements of how our world actually works as opposed to how our world is supposed to work, which is, you know, the Constitutional Republic.
But then sometimes, yeah, he just says things that I think just don't come across, you know, into the mainstream the way he wants.
And so he's referring back to this like ancient Prussian style of government where you sort of combine business.
You basically run the country like a business is what he's trying to say.
No, it's not related to Uh, not related to what we're talking about.
Well, Jack, just to take this like full picture, because I think you tweeted something like this today.
You said blackpilling is actually actually cowardice.
And I really actually agree with that.
And Charlie has a saying, I think that you borrowed from Dennis Prager, if I'm not mistaken, Charlie, where you basically said, where you basically said, cause blackmailing just means it's all is lost.
All hope is lost.
So I know the truth and you know, eat, drink for tomorrow.
We die sort of thing.
But actually you're like, I don't fight because I know I'm going to win.
I fight because it's the right thing to do.
The outcome doesn't matter.
Regardless of the outcome, I'm going to keep fighting because that's what my faith implores.
That's what fighting for the future of my family requires.
I mean, what other option is there but to fight with some hope, not blindly.
You have to just address the threats in front of you.
But if we were all sitting here going like there's no way Trump could That's right.
Blake, final thoughts on this topic?
What the heck are we doing here?
Why would we have shows?
Why would we have this show?
Why would Jack and you do four hours of content every day and run Turning Point USA trying to impact the next generation?
This is ultimately our existence is based upon the white pill, right?
That's right.
Blake, final thoughts on this topic?
You know, I guess I think it's funny just how many different pills people want to create.
But it's actually been a very durable meme as far as internet things go through.
Things have a very short half-life, and a sort of funny thing is when I look at online discourse, the only things that have really lasted more than a decade, it feels, are these pill, like red pill, blue pill stuff, and then Pepe, the frog guy.
and pepe is eternal pepe is eternal pepe is probably the only thing in the internet of right now that will still be around in a hundred years because pepe is lord keck and lord keck has obviously been around and it's so flexible like there's political versions of it non-political versions of it uh and you know people watching right now probably still have no idea what we're talking about perhaps but you will your children and grandchildren people know who pepe is they should but maybe they don't let's talk about the wellness company uh blake's favorite product ivermectin uh...
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Well, we talked about pills.
We talked about red pills, blue pills.
I don't know the color of these pills.
It probably varies based on which one you get prescribed, but we brought this up in conversation a few weeks ago, and Charlie was instantly super interested in it.
I'm incredibly passionate about this, and I think it's civilizational-defining.
I think the species Itself is defined by this.
And we are going to put it all at risk for the sake of something kind of gross.
So it's antibiotics.
These are pills all of us rely upon.
They defeat bacteriums of various kinds.
Why doesn't syphilis drive you insane anymore?
Antibiotics.
Why doesn't TB kill Edgar Allan Poe's wife anymore if he was alive today?
Antibiotics.
There's a lot of illnesses that are bacterial and that we can treat.
Let's do some history first.
Antibiotics are a new phenomenon.
They haven't been around for 100 years.
various molds that destroy bacteria.
But the scary thing about them is, over time, the theory of natural selection is acting upon bacterium.
Let's do some history first, right?
So antibiotics are a new phenomenon.
They haven't been around for 100 years.
It was really the inventor of antibiotics was Sir Alexander Fleming.
Who came up with penicillin.
And it was found by accident, I believe.
It was totally by accident.
And it was as modern science was coming on, and all of a sudden this guy realizes the introduction of antibiotic-type material was, like, the bacteria will die.
And he's like, oh my goodness, you can nuclear bomb... Which had also been invented yet, so whatever it was at the time, you can... Well, 1945 they had the nuclear bomb.
Penicillin was before this, though.
Well, yes.
Yes, but-- It was like the '20s, I believe.
OK, but the warning that Fleming gave was in the '40s about antibiotics.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
OK, yeah, yeah, totally.
So anyway, you're right.
They didn't have atomic weapons yet.
So Sir Alexander Fleming comes up with penicillin, the first woman who was literally dying of either typhus or syphilis or something.
She was dying from something in New Jersey.
They fly her this penicillin to her.
They're like, we don't know if this is gonna work, and within, like, hours, she's better.
Changes the world.
Now, Tucker Carlson, to his credit, he's like, look, I think this whole modernity thing is a little bit overrated, except antibiotics.
I'll give you that one.
So even people that, like myself, where I think that parts of modernity are overhyped, fever reducers, Antibiotics, C-sections, I think are some of the three great medical advancements of the last hundred years.
However, Sir Alexander Fleming warned, this is why I'm so passionate about this, because when you really dive into it, and I read a whole book on antibiotics and fungi and gut bacteria, he said this, quote, Public will demand the drug more and more and humanity will enter an era of abuses and antibiotic resistance.
The overuse of antibiotics will clearly drive an evolution of resistance where they will no longer have any power at all.
Blake, make sense of that.
So what he's saying is, under natural selection, these things work by you introduce this life form.
Antibiotics are a life form, kind of a mold, and they kill the bacteriums.
They're vulnerable to it.
But they won't kill every single bacterium you'll get.
One will Yes.
mutate to be resistant to this and then that one will become more common and so we're starting to see drug resistant bacteria that is bacterias that aren't killed by the antibiotics that we have or we need more of them or we only need only certain bacterium works and we're getting closer and closer to the point where diseases that were once extremely common you know only a handful of antibiotics work on them and soon no antibiotics may work on them and we're not really developing many new antibiotics
we just have a small set of them that work pretty well and this all leads into what's amazing about this is You know, we're gonna use antibiotics for some things no matter what.
So resistance is always going to rise, but you want to avoid overdoing it.
So some people complain we use it too often with livestock, for example.
Like we just feed these things tons and tons of antibiotics and these livestock will eventually cause the resistance.
But the one that just happened that is amazing.
Bring it up on my computer screen here.
I've got the article here.
So this is just from last October.
And this is an article on PBS.
You guys bringing it up here?
Yes.
So, U.S.
officials endorse common antibiotic as morning after pill to combat STIs.
I want people to understand this is actually morally evil.
Yes, for sure.
They are mass prescribing antibiotics preemptively.
Why?
The U.S.
health officials plan to endorse a common antibiotic as a morning pill that Gay and bisexual men can use to try to avoid some increasingly common sexually transmitted diseases.
So let me get this straight.
The government is promoting the use of millions of pills of antibiotics because people are afraid of getting bacteria via gay sex.
And remember, why are they only prescribing it to them?
Because they have a lot of gay sex.
And they have it with many partners.
They have parties.
This is related.
There's a drug called Truvada.
And it's a major... It's a drug that makes it harder to spread HIV, essentially.
And I think it might also hinder it within the body if you're infected.
I don't want to say.
But it's an HIV-related drug.
And it's been a very effective one.
You know, not many people die of AIDS anymore.
And there was a slang term in this community where they would become, like, Truvada whores.
And it would be, I'm on this drug that makes it so HIV is not nearly the threat it was.
Let's have these wild parties that we used to have in the 70s before we had to worry about this.
How many sexual partners does an average gay man have?
I don't know the average off the top of my head.
Jack, what is the number?
It's like if you shift it two standard deviations over.
It's much, much higher than heterosexuals.
Most normie boomers don't know this, actually.
And it's not that every single gay man will have 2,000 partners, but almost all of them know one who's had literally thousands of partners.
Because you can have a lifestyle that they might live in, especially urban areas, where you go to one of their clubs, one of their bathhouses, gay bars or whatever, and they'll just have, they might have three or four partners in a night.
And they might go to one of these places four nights a week, five nights a week, every night maybe.
And different people there every single time.
And this is a lifestyle that you can live.
And the downside of this is you get a lot of diseases doing this.
And, you know, so the CDC is coming in and saying, we're going to mitigate the harm here and we're going to prescribe you a depleting resources.
This is like a limited, it's kind of a finite natural resource in a way.
If we imagine a normal finite resource like our supply of Yes.
our supply of petroleum, and we're expending our limited supply of antibiotic effectiveness on, well, gay sex parties.
Yes, so a 2014 study says that an average gay man will have between 22 to 26 sexual partners.
Per year or ever?
year or ever?
Ever, which I think that's low based on other studies that I've seen.
Ever, which I think that's low based on other studies that I've seen.
Well, like I said, I think it's that if the average is that, you're going to have a much higher number of people who have just a totally off the charts insane number.
Like I said, I think it's that if you if the average is that you're going to have a much higher number of people who have just a totally off the charts insane number.
Yes.
Yes.
So this is what.
So this is what, oh, yeah, what is that story, Jack, that you just sent?
Oh, yeah.
What is that story, Jack, that you just sent?
So I've actually been shout out to Elon Musk because I've been using Grock to research data for thought crimes so that all of our thought crimes can come directly from Grock.
And I wanted to thank Grock because Grock can actually be used.
That's sort of the chat TPT of X, formerly Twitter, can be used not just to answer questions, but it can actually query Twitter's database much faster than than anything else.
And even the advanced search.
And so it pulled up from how do you pronounce this?
Queerty, which is the LGBTQ news, politics, lifestyle, gossip and entertainment site free of an agenda except the gay one.
That's their that's their bio on X.
And the headline from their article of December 31st, 2023.
So just a couple of weeks ago, gay men reveal their 2023 hookup tallies and the sky's the limit.
All right.
So, just so everyone understands that the government pushing antibiotics here, there will be a, we are in the golden era of antibiotics and most people don't even know it.
We wait, you know that the average American does two regimens or prescriptions of antibiotics on average a year?
Two!
That's insane.
People take it for the common cold.
They take it for the flu.
They take it for stuff that antibiotics does not impact.
And they'll like lie to doctors.
If you talk to doctors, they'll just have these people who will come in and they'll insist, you know, this antibiotic pill was great for me.
Can I just please get some?
Like they'll beg for it because they have influenza or something.
It doesn't work on influenza.
- Which it does work on influenza.
The only way, if you have long pneumonia and a bacterial infection in the lungs, it could potentially work.
But we're in the golden era of antibiotics.
Anything that promotes the over-prescribing of antibiotics should be, we should reject.
We should try to extend this golden era for as long as possible. - For sure, and the reason this matters is it's not just chronic diseases.
What it really matters for is, like the ability to do general surgery.
Like, we can do open heart surgery because of antibiotics, because the downside of cutting someone open normally is a million things can get into you and infect you with every kind of thing.
And so if you go into a major surgery, they usually give you antibiotics to limit your ability to be infected by things.
So this isn't just diseases.
This is like, well, your ability to get surgery for your heart, your appendicitis, appendicitis, all of this is closely related to it.
And so we could just see in the future, you're going to have way more people dying of things that they used to survive.
And that could be something that we could be in this golden era of life expectancy that will go into decline because we have depleted one of our best medical breakthroughs.
Yes, and this story that you're saying is that the government, so gay men are told by the government, hey, take this antibiotic if you engage in A bunch of sex.
Yes.
So, Charlie, I want to make a point here, because we have this video.
This whole segment has been making me... It reminded me of a certain CDC PSA that they put out, basically.
But the way that the government has... That they treat promiscuity within the gay community is actually really breathtaking to me.
Like, it's crazy.
And it reminded me of when the CDC warned gay men heading into Pride Month last year Um, they didn't want the they did they I think there's this uh line and they were they were warning about uh monkey pox which apparently monkey pox was It's viral, not bacterial.
Yeah, but at the same time, monkeypox was, I guess, a derogatory term now, so they changed it to mpox.
And remember, the White House had that really flamboyantly gay Greek dude, I think, this guy.
Diamanturoctogonus or whatever?
Yeah, Dimitri Dotsalakis.
Here, I can get a picture of this guy.
This is the White House, you know, monkeypox coordinator.
But, like, listen to the way that they talk about Yeah, that's him right there in the S&M garb there.
So play Cut 98, and just listen.
It kind of reminds me of the bigotry of low expectations.
It's like, we know that the gay community is going to have all of this sex, I guess, during Pride Month, so let's not turn it into a tragedy.
Let's not turn Pride Month into a tragedy.
Go ahead and play it, 98.
A new warning from the CDC about a potential risk for new cases of mpox to surge this summer.
We're coming up on Pride Week right now when there are a lot of celebrations within our populations that are at highest risk for getting mpox and we don't want to see a month-long celebration turn into a tragedy.
Mpox is a viral disease that spreads through close contact.
It can infect anyone.
But in the 2022 outbreak, infections were mostly among men who have sex with men.
So how is monkeypox?
First of all, just so everyone understands, they don't call it monkeypox anymore because they said it was racist.
And if you think monkeypox is racist, you're a bigot, Blake.
One of the things, the aftermath of that was amazing.
I can't remember the article now, but I think we had a couple that just talked about how the gay community stepped up against the threat of monkeypox and, you know, they came together to protect all of us from the next pandemic.
How does one get monkeypox?
Well, I think you can get it in a variety of ways, but it's frequently a sexually transmitted Doesn't it require bodily fluid transmission?
It is certainly heavily aided by that.
Meaning, like, it doesn't spread virally?
Like, if someone sneezes in an elevator?
Not easily.
I don't want to categorically say it, but a large number of people, yeah, you touch the sores and that sort of thing.
So, yeah, it says spread through human contact with a rodent or infected person, according to penmedicine.org.
There's so much misinformation about this.
When I was in the hospital with our baby, a nurse comes in and she says, hey, just so you know, monkey pox is going around.
You have to be careful for your baby to get monkey pox.
I said, are you kidding me?
I said, how do you think one gets monkey pox?
And she says, oh, you know, you could just get it through the air.
This is a nurse at a hospital.
Let me read the University of Pennsylvania website.
Direct contact with an infected person.
This occurs through cuddling, kissing, or sex.
They do this a lot!
contaminated materials such as exposed to skin lesions including clothing or bedding scratches or bites from an infected animal preparing or eating meat or products from an infected animal the point is they don't actually want to get to the root of it which is this is and i was so insulted at this nurse i was like do you think we're a gape couple or something like do you think that this baby's at risk or something like what are you trying to say here nurse woman
it's like when there are actually a bunch of kids and like animals that that came down with it and then all of a sudden they stop talking about it?
Yeah, exactly.
I wonder how they're getting it.
You know, people aren't wearing masks?
No, but I mean, why is it when they do the surrogates, they always get boys?
They don't want to shame.
They don't want to shame people.
So it's like with I think it's hepatitis B or they get the vaccine at birth.
This and it's because you even know that you're against this vaccine at birth.
It's insane because you only need it if your mom is a crack whore.
Yes.
And if you're not a crack whore, you don't need it.
This is 100% true.
This clip just blows my mind.
I feel like I'm the only one like the fact that the federal government Calls it a month of celebrations.
Like, all of these euphemisms.
No, they're literally gonna be at, like, bathhouses and parties and clubs, like, having indiscriminate sex with all these... Like, the government has lost such a moral anchoring that they won't even have the chutzpah to say, please don't have a lot of sex with random partners.
Like, they can't even say that much.
No, no, that is the ultimate.
And it feeds into, we have, it's like kind of, it's a psyop.
They sort of started with the gay marriage push and it just sort of lingered on where they pushed very hard to sort of say like they live just like us.
And, you know, some of them do.
I will say some gay men, as far as I know, imitate heterosexual life to some extent.
Charlie doesn't know any.
I think I know a few, but I don't know.
I mean, I'm not saying anything.
I don't know.
There's definitely people.
They're sort of like they deliberately they've at least deliberately.
I don't want to generalize a group.
I don't want to.
All I know is that men are sex crazy.
And when you have two men, you have two sex crazy people.
And the stats.
Yes, exactly.
You have two gas pedals, you have two microwaves, and no oven.
Meaning they get into sex very quickly.
Okay?
Is a microwave also an oven?
No.
A microwave oven.
That's what they call it.
The old expression is that sexually a woman is like an oven.
It takes a while to heat up.
It's this whole process.
It's an old church thing.
They're also describing... Andrew, is that not right?
100%?
They also use that to describe... I'm not against that.
I'm confused about the microwave part.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
Boom.
You got electricity.
Who's a toaster then?
There ain't anything bacon in there.
The analogy stops at the toaster and at the stove oven.
The point is that... Toaster I could understand because you're not getting in trouble if you do it in the Senate.
That's all I know about that.
What sex is an old-fashioned smoker barbecue grill?
I haven't thought through all the different kitchen items.
You're not allowed to work at the CDC then.
Evidently not.
How did they make hot dogs?
Wait, no, hold on.
Charlie, you had a feedback on my point, and I've been waiting for you to get to it, that our government has lost so much morality they can't even say something negative against profit against sex.
So if you read Nietzsche, he had a great line, even though Blake thinks he's terrible, which he's largely terrible, but he had some wisdom.
I just think he's evil and people... I agree with that.
Okay, fine.
He did say, and you'd agree with this, that every society has a central piety that you cannot make fun of it.
Is that true?
As civilization goes on, there's something you can't make fun of.
In Egypt, you can't make fun of the pharaoh.
When Christianity was dominant, you can't make fun of Jesus.
You cannot make fun of gay sex.
Without getting in trouble.
No, think about it.
That is the central piety.
The central piety of modernity is that thou shall not make fun of, criticize, and there's a lot of central pieties now.
You can make fun of white men, Christianity, you can make fun of gun owners, MAGA people, Walmart, you can make fun of heterosexuals, you can make fun of muscle, you know, alpha males, but thou shall not make fun of trannies thou shall not make and that shows and then nietzsche said there you know are the guiding values of society i think nietzsche was right you can you can then you can so what you're saying is biden is going to give that senate staffer the presidential medal of freedom
i'm going to say that if it actually is a really good example that somebody going into the capital draped in an american flag who believes in jesus gets put into solitary confinement and someone that films themselves having gay sex gets out without anything because Because that actually does prove Nietzsche's point that which one is the central piety?
The love of country and Jesus, or filming yourself having gay sex?
And I think Nietzsche's 100% right in that regard.
And it's like the way they wave the pride flag every You can go to prison for burning the pride flag.
You can't go to prison for burning an American flag.
This is my point.
Which one do we consider holy?
And which one do we consider sacred?
And you can't make fun of it.
If you do, and Nietzsche uses humor, then you get in tons of trouble and you get tons of criticism.
I think this is so on point.
This story, I can't believe I didn't think of it.
I can't believe I didn't think of it.
This staffer What, didn't he live stream?
He definitely filmed and released- He didn't live stream it.
I don't know who his Facebook group he was in, I believe.
Yeah, he posted it later.
He didn't live stream it.
But the point is, he doesn't get punished.
He doesn't get punished.
The CDC talking about monkey pox calls it a month of celebration, and that's a euphemism for, like, orgies, basically.
Correct.
Jeffrey Dahmer.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say, Jeffrey, I talked about this when I had Tucker on That Jeffrey Dahmer, so obviously famously a gay serial killer, this became a huge argument when Netflix put out the Jeffrey Dahmer, I guess it was a miniseries or something, and they put it in LGBT history, or like LGBT voices.
And it became this massive thing where there was a huge backlash.
How dare you say he's LGBT?
But he was, he clearly was, and there's even some indication that he may have considered himself to be transsexual.
And something I also mentioned with Tucker was that Jeffrey Dahmer, he gave this sort of like series of interviews before he was killed in prison.
And in all of these cases, he emphatically, emphatically implored people to understand that he did not choose his victims, many of which were black, but he wanted to make sure that, yes, I may have killed them.
Yes, I may have eaten their body parts and kept some of their body parts in the fridge.
But I absolutely must make sure you know that I am not a filthy racist.
Hmm.
This is even after he had confessed.
Central piety.
Another central piety.
Yeah.
The central piety, and so you can, and what Nietzsche was saying is if you want to basically find your North Star, if you're confused as to where you are, just find the thing you can't make fun of, and there are the values.
And so for when people say, oh my goodness, is the country lost or not lost, and that's not the operative question, or you know, what's important, just find out the societal guardrails, the rules, and the thing you can't make, for example, what do you get in trouble for if you're Dave Chappelle making fun of?
They come after you if you make fun of trans people.
They don't make fun, they do not come after you if you make fun of Madison Cawthorne.
And by the way, the Madison Cawthorn thing wasn't that funny, I wasn't that bothered by it, but it's certainly that the way he went after Madison Cawthorn of like, oh my goodness, you can't walk and you're in a wheelchair because you got in a car accident, and people thought it was funny, I didn't think it was, you know, that offensive or whatever, I mean, it didn't really move me that much, but imagine that sort of ferocity towards gay sex.
He would lose his job.
Yep.
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It very well might involve you.
The FBI just did a thing.
A 17-year-old has been arrested for, quote, I've got it on screen if you guys want to show it, except I've got to shrink this stupid hat.
Honestly, good for the FBI, because this is a bipartisan problem, and this is what they should be spending their time on.
I think I said this rightly.
Hundreds of swatting incidents, Blake.
Hundreds?
Hundreds.
Did this person do anything except SWAT people?
I have the photo on screen if you guys want to show it.
That's remarkable.
Jack, I'm just bringing it up because it very well could have been you.
This could have been tied to you.
This could be your family.
What's the headline?
The headline is 17-year-old alleged serial SWATer charged after police says he made threats throughout the country.
And it makes sense, because it was so repetitive, right?
It was so widespread, what was happening.
We don't know the specifics yet.
I'm sure the indictment will be pretty widespread, and they might even find more.
Allegedly, he threatened a mass shooting at a mosque in Sanford, Florida, according to police.
That's probably what got their attention, yeah.
But allegedly, he did many of them, so... You're right.
He said he was going to commit a mass shooting in the name of Satan.
But hundreds of swatting incidents.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, listen to this, listen to this.
He created several accounts on websites offering swatting services.
So, basically what you're saying is, is that what he was running, or possibly what these sites are running, and this is something that I had actually suggested at one point when I was discussing this with my family, who went through this on Christmas Day, as well as a couple of days before Christmas, When parents were swatted twice, that it seemed like, it seemed like the incidents were, how should I say, like they weren't very familiar with the situation.
Like they weren't very familiar with who they were talking about or what was going on.
They weren't super familiar with some of the details as if, and quite frankly, it just didn't sound like somebody who was American.
And so I actually had had this thought that, you know, it almost sounds like somebody in a call center somewhere.
And the fact that they're talking about websites offering swatting services and various IP addresses connected with those accounts, that's exactly what I was thinking was going on.
So there you go.
Anyway, that was some breaking news.
So what is the final topic we have here?
Well, we have to be out in five minutes, so do we want to hit it?
Well, we can go 8 to 10.
If I don't put time limits on this, it ends up... And we gotta hit this guy, because we kind of own this topic.
Two weeks ago, we debated pilots.
Last week, we talked about how this started a huge running feud between Steve Saylor and this fellow named Will Stansel.
Will Stansel.
It's still going on, isn't it?
And it's still going.
He's still having meltdown.
It's probably helping him.
I bet he's getting followers, and he would be selling copies of his book if he'd written one.
But Steve Saylor does have a book, and they've apparently sold many hundreds of copies specifically with the promo code that they tied to this.
I've even heard that they've sold them to people who had already bought copies.
They bought another one over this.
So last week we described Will Stancil as a HickLib That's the sort of a person from middle America.
Oliver Anthony is what I thought of at midnight.
I woke up, Jack.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
I said, oh my goodness, Oliver Anthony was the perfect hicklib that we didn't mention in that segment.
Please continue.
These people who come from middle America, often red states or at least red communities, they grow up and they decide these places aren't sophisticated enough for them.
Too many people believe in God.
They believe too many conservative things and they love to dump on where they're from.
And of course, Will Stancil, I think he is from Minnesota or at least went to school in Minnesota.
And he's still in this running feud with him.
And so what he's been talking about is, yeah, somehow the topic got on Italy.
And he's like, I've been, I lived in Italy for a bit.
And he tweeted this.
I lived in Italy for a bit.
And while the food is great, empanada stands and Korean food would make much of the country better.
And this turned into a flowing discourse of, yeah, like Italy's great, but wouldn't it be better if it just had more ethnic restaurants?
And this stood out, because this is what you always hear from people.
Why do we need to have open borders?
Why do we need to have a million illegal immigrants, a million legal, three million illegals?
Well, think of the ethnic food that we'll get as a result of this.
Now, I feel like we already have that ethnic food, and yet it still serves as the perpetual justification for it.
That, you know, yeah, we already have a Mexican restaurant in every town, but You know, you need more Mexican restaurants.
One can never have enough Mexican restaurants, or Thai restaurants, or Indian restaurants, or Campuchian restaurants, or something.
The funniest is when the immigrant doesn't embrace the culture he's from.
That's the- and by the way, it's the greatest Seinfeld episode ever, where Babu Bat- Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He has like- Jerry convinced him- We know he's still Babu!
And he's like, wait, you know what you should do and he gives him all these recommendations and I love it There's a restaurant here in Scottsdale and it's a Japanese restaurant and it's owned by the Venezuelan and it's the funniest thing That's common.
Like no, I think it's awesome.
I'm not like it's not a criticism.
I just think it's hilarious very common Like I've heard it's very common for all kind of Asian restaurants.
Just you know, total crossover Yeah, the Japanese guy who owns a Chinese restaurant or vice versa fine.
It's America and you know the back area I've heard everywhere west of the Mississippi kitchen cooks, regardless of type of restaurant, are Mexican or Hispanic in some capacity.
They're the kind of grunt labor in almost all ethnic restaurants.
And there's actually an amusing amount of narrow-minded or lack of experience.
Because, for example, if you go to Japan, I've been to Japan.
Japan has national, international cuisines of all sorts.
They have Italian restaurants, French restaurants, British restaurants, and all of that.
And they're really good at it, and they don't have a huge amount of immigrants there.
And also just the fact- We're getting more.
He, you know, he goes to Italy, which has an enormous culinary tradition that can be immensely rich, and just thinks- No, it's the best food on the planet.
Yeah, and it'd be so great if I could find, you know, Salvadoran empanadas here.
And the deeper truth is, is that the people who say they love diversity want every city on planet Earth to essentially be the exact same thing.
No, but also, just, these are the type of people that would go to London and eat at like TGI Fridays.
Or just, they would go, yeah.
It's just, you know the type I'm talking about, Andrew?
No, they'd go to Brick Row.
They'd go to Brick Row for the Indian food.
They'd be like, oh, I love... Or they'd go to New York City and they'd eat at Olive Garden.
I'm like, yeah, you're just... I have a confession.
You're not doing this right.
So I was in Poland a couple months ago, and I met a friend of mine... Visiting Auschwitz.
Yeah, and all that.
Well, I didn't go to the restaurant at Auschwitz, but I was in Wroclaw, and I met a friend of mine, and I asked him, he asked, where do you want to go?
And I'm like, well, I'm going to go to a lot of Polish restaurants.
I wanna see if Poland can do a Mexican restaurant, so I had us go to a Mexican restaurant.
That's hilarious.
Was it any good?
It was good, but the funnier thing about it was the handful of ways they do mess it up.
So for example, we got a plate of tortilla chips with salsa and dip, and What was funny is it was like a tapas plate.
So it was an extremely tiny bowl of salsa and then an extremely tiny plate of chips.
I'm not sure that there were 15 chips on this dish.
And so while it was good, it was not what you would typically encounter in an American Mexican restaurant.
And then the menu was very narrow.
They had tacos and one or two other dishes, but you know, there was no There was no cheese queso that just wasn't on their radar to include that.
It was otherwise a nice restaurant, but it really stood out what was not present there.
Very good.
Final thoughts, guys, around the horn.
Jack, you first.
Well, of course, I'm very excited that we have named Taylor Swift our latest national ambassador, first national ambassador for White History Month.
And of course, as we know, at the Super Bowl, they'll be performing the Black National Anthem.
So we are at this time trying to figure out which white national anthem will we pick for Taylor Swift to sing.
Andrew, final thoughts?
I want to show this image 84 here.
I think this is Tied to this last empanada open borders topic.
This jerk, his name is Yuan Boada, and he got into a mob fight in the streets of New York City.
Beat up two cops, a big mob of illegal aliens.
And here he is just flipping off the reporter.
Some of his other essays did the same thing.
And I literally have not been so disgusted by a story in a long time.
I think this should be the image that this Will Stancil guy should have to defend over and over and over again and tell us again and again why we need to open our borders to these miscreants, these thugs and these deplorable humans that break our laws and have no regard for our country.
And by the way, we should be playing that him flipping off our country over and over again.
Yeah, here's the video of them beating up two cops.
This guy got released without bail.
And I just think it's such a disgusting, sad reality of our current moment in time.
And so Will Stancil can suck it and he can watch this video on repeat in his dreams.
Andrew, Andrew, think about how many empanada stands they might already have opened.
They probably were released on bail because they said, we need to go man an empanada stand right now.
I have a slightly different take than Andrew.
I honestly, I mean, I think I actually congratulate this migrant for at least just being one of them who's just finally honest.
Because this is how all legal immigrants are.
This is how many legal immigrants are when it comes to respect for our country, respect for our culture, respect for our laws.
This guy's just being honest.
He's finally actually being honest about how these massive third world hordes look at our country.
And they say, you know what?
Double middle fingers.
We're going to do what we want and you're going to let us, and you're going to watch us do it.
Yeah.
Very.
Okay.
Got it.
Andrew.
No, no, no.
I mean, it's, I agree.
I agree.
It's not just an illegal thing.
I think you can make comments about illegal immigration and try and keep it in a box and people are like, yeah, the legal's too.
And it's totally true.
We used to treat legal immigration as almost a sacred thing.
I mean, we were bestowing upon people the opportunity to have the life of their dreams and We treated it as sacred and holy, and people revered it, and you're right.
This is what we've made it.
We've made this, we've degraded citizenship, we've degraded legal immigration, we've degraded every single possible thing, and this guy just gets the system that he's playing.
He knows it's a rigged game in his favor, and he's just gonna, he's owning it.
