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I have a very interesting Very interesting take on something that's been going around on the social medias and on chat groups that I'm in, and Charlie Kirk was on just before me talking about this, and this is the question of uniting.
You say, okay, well Trump has won.
Trump has won the election.
People know the primary's over.
Jamie Dimon, Jeffrey Epstein's banker, is running around out there saying, please, please, please listen to me again, because he desperately wants to be the next Secretary of the Treasury.
But here's a question that I have.
You know, people say, we want people to unite behind Trump.
And there's this question of, do we want, you know, do we want everyone in?
Do we want everyone to be in the tent?
You know, it's a big tent.
You need a big coalition to win the election.
I get all that.
I understand all those things.
And I'll just say this, folks.
There's a big bus.
But there's different seats on the bus.
Some of the seats are in the front.
Some of the seats are in the middle.
Some of the seats are in the back.
By the bathroom.
Some people can, you know, stand.
Got your strap hangers.
Other people, I don't know, maybe we can design a roof rack of some sort and you can sort of hang on that way.
Others are welcome to walk behind the bus.
And certainly everyone is welcome to vote.
People say, well, Jack, we need every vote.
I said, oh, great.
Yes.
Yes, I agree.
You are welcome to vote for Donald Trump.
You should, as a matter of fact.
I've been telling people to do that for over a year.
But then there's some people, and these people aren't really people because they're snakes.
Snakes are not allowed on the bus.
Snakes get run over by the bus.
When we see the snakes in the road, we will direct the driver to pump the brakes to make sure the snake is hit.
Because you see folks, there are certain elements that when you let them onto a bus or you let them into an administration, they poison that administration.
Poison the blood, to use a term a phrase.
These individuals are parasites.
These individuals are You know, they're secret communists, they're secret leftists in a way, because they don't actually produce anything of value.
They only want to take.
They only want to receive.
They only want to collect things that you have done and you have produced and use your work to profit themselves rather than commit to doing any labor on their own.
In fact, they are averse to labor of any kind!
And so that's why I'm going to say right now, Many are welcome on the bus.
There's lots of seats on the bus.
I want everyone on the bus.
But some people, some people are not allowed on the bus.
Snakes are not allowed on the bus.
And you know exactly who you are.
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I want to go to Rahim Kassam now, who joins us from the National Pulse.
He's someone who's dealt with these issues far longer than I think anyone even wants to ask.
Rahim, there is a question, and I guess it's really kicked off, and it's funny because I was having this conversation internally with the Human Events team here today, And I said, you know, a lot of these phones are ringing.
I want to read that snake poem again and again to a lot of the D.C.
people who were just nowhere to be found for the last three and a half years or so.
And then all of a sudden Jamie Dimon pops up at Davos wearing a Ukrainian flag on his lapel pin, talking about how smart President Trump is and how great the MAGA movement is on the issues.
Raheem, what are we to make of these things?
And then to broaden it out, you know, are snakes allowed on the bus?
I don't like the analogy of snakes on a bus, mostly because I don't like snakes or buses.
But I think there's levels to this, right?
And whether we're talking about Steve Cortez, whether we're talking about Um, Vivek Ramaswamy, whether we're talking about Jamie Dimon, we have to accept that there are different levels to this.
There are different layers to this and not everybody can be dealt with or should be dealt with in the same way.
I have dealt with this for many, many, many years, far too many years that I actually, that I actually even care for, um, because people will stand against you.
People will have different ideas to you.
People will have differences of opinion, differences in candidates and differences in how they perceive, uh, The America First movement should move ahead.
Does that write them off forever?
Well, perhaps.
In some cases, I think it does, especially if they turned out to be very nasty people, especially if they told tales and ran stories and said negative things and background briefed corporate media journalists.
And there are a plethora of people that fit into that mold.
But I read Steve Cortez's op-ed today in RealClearPolitics and I thought to myself, well, look, we have to take a stand, obviously.
We have to say, alright, you know, you messed up, and we're gonna hit you on that, and we're gonna talk to you about that, and we're gonna sit you down and make you pay your penitence for that.
But at the same time, Steve Cortez was never somebody who was out there being nasty about people.
He was never sniping.
He just said, look, I've got a difference of opinion here, and I'm gonna go and do my thing.
Now, a lot of people will turn around and say, oh, you know, but it was money-oriented and money-driven and whatever.
Yeah, I mean, to some extent that may be true.
That may be true about a lot of these people.
But there are people who have comported themselves throughout this campaign with a level of dignity, and there are people who have done it without said dignity.
Vivek Ramaswamy, I will give an example, was on the stage in New Hampshire last night.
He ran a campaign against Donald Trump.
He said some things in the last week.
Trump actually had to really sternly rebuke him about publicly.
And yet he's back on that stage last night.
So so you have to take all these things into account.
I'm a sore winner, by the way.
I know it all too well because we have made certain mistakes like that in the past.
I was talking to some of our members in our National Pulse Discord channel this morning, and they were asking me about the Steve Cortez thing and said, you know, where is his value?
What is the value proposition here?
And I said, look, the reason so many people were upset in the first instance about the Cortez thing was that Cortez is actually a talented communicator.
He is an intelligent man and he's somebody we hoped had remained on the America first side.
Right.
So you have to look at that value proposition there.
And then I also said this.
Any single person that can convince even one person to get off their ass and fight for MAGA and vote for MAGA is valuable to this movement.
Right now, this is much more about Joe Biden than it is about Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley.
This is much more about taking the fight to the globalists than it is taking the fight, you know, in an internecine And I am the king of inter-Nissan warfare, by the way, for any readers of the National Pulse, for any readers of my Twitter feed. - I was gonna say, people are like, people are like, what have you done with Rahim Kassam?
Who is this man?
No. - There's a very different Rahim Kassam in an election year from Rahim Kassam leading into an election year.
And that is the change in mentality we need to have, Jack.
- No, I think you're exactly right.
And all of this will come out.
And the reason that I say as well, when I'm talking about letting people on the bus and using these types of analogies, it's not necessarily that I'm saying that I don't want someone's support.
What I'm saying is that, look, the people up at the bus are deciding where the bus is going.
The people up at the front of the bus are deciding Look, do we want people on the bus?
Of course.
Do we want everyone's vote?
Of course.
But at the same time, just understand that you will be in a different place now.
And it is what it is, right?
That's reality.
We all make our decisions and we have to live with those decisions and the consequences of them.
And maybe, just maybe, it turns out that certain people didn't have the best judgment, and that's going to be taken into account.
But to your point as well, there have been some people, like, and Steve has been quite gracious, you know, I think, in general.
He's been magnanimous in terms of victory.
I do think that, you know, I said this the other night on the live stream, that if people want to, you know, if people want to start bending the knees, right, there is a time limit to this.
There is certainly a time limit, just like there's a time limit on my screen behind me.
And that that if you do this quickly and that will be remembered but at the same time if you were somebody who went so hard in the paint that you were and and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say it that if you were the things that they've been saying about our friend Scott Pressler lately are horrific they're absolutely horrific and I think there is a tier of people that have said some horrific and disgusting things like this and and I'm sorry that you're you're you're out
Yeah, Jack, I'm just done.
Right.
Some people are done.
And I think a lot of those people recognize who they are.
A lot of people disappeared over the course of the last few weeks off to foreign countries doing foreign things while the Iowa caucuses were taking place.
And I think those people kind of realize that, you know, maybe this isn't this isn't the year for me.
This isn't the thing for me.
I called it.
I was extremely rude to people who called me friends, to people who let me into their networks, to people who hosted us on their shows, and so on and so forth.
Those people are absolutely...
I think most level-headed people recognize that at the moment.
In the bigger battle that looms immediately ahead of us, you need your best communicators.
I'm not calling for these people to get jobs.
I'm not calling for these people to get administration roles or anything like that.
And maybe the best way to describe it, Jack, is that those of us who are on the bus, those who want back on, well, they can push the bus for a while.
Let's see what you've got.
Let's see how much muscle You're willing to put into this, and then once you've helped push the bus down the road a little bit, then maybe you can get on and take a seat somewhere in the back.
Yeah, there's a lot of snow.
There's a lot of snow over here in the Northeast right now, really from New Hampshire down to D.C.
You know, the snow needs some, we need some plowers.
We need some people out there plowing.
We need to clear the way for the bus.
There's a lot of work to be done.
So I would offer this as, and let's take what you said and turn the analogy into a piece of advice.
Show us what you're made of.
Get out there and start working.
If you're a writer, write.
If you're a communicator, communicate.
If you're great at doing videos or even chalkboard scenarios, perhaps, go ahead and put them out.
Put them out and get to work.
Because at the end of the day, I don't really have time to be worrying about making lists of people and keeping receipts.
Not that I don't do it.
But what I'm saying is, I don't have time to worry about this nonsense.
If you're going to get to work, then fine.
Get to work.
If not, Then then go go go gallivant around in foreign countries when there's elections going on go and you know get involved in and I pointed out a lot of people are racing back to the cultural issues and oh my gosh have you seen that Biden has done this and uh what's the uh the you know the the transsexual at the um Yeah, I think that's right.
whatever, Admiral, Admiral Levine, you know, oh, yes, look at this terrible thing.
We know, okay, we get it, right?
If you're doing that little game of saying, oh, look at the crazy thing that came out next, fine, you'll get your clicks, you'll get your shares.
But just understand that you are not being useful right now, because you're not doing what is useful to, again, to your point, to defeat Joe Biden at the ballot box.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think, as I say, a level of penitence is due.
But we also can't be consumed at this point in the election cycle by, you know, taking petty little grievances of people who, you know, there are people out there, They do exist who just made the wrong decision, who just made a mistake, who made an honest mistake, quite frankly.
And, you know, there are inducements to make those mistakes.
Don't forget, people aren't perfect.
I don't want anybody to think I'm going soft here.
I'm going strategic here, is what we're doing.
And I've lived too many election cycles now, and I've grinded too many axes to not realise that there is a massive opportunity here.
If you treat certain people who behaved, and like you say, Continue to behave well and in certain ways, then more people will flock to your cause, more people will find it the right time and the right thing to do.
So let's see more of that.
Like I say, people aren't necessarily going to be on the jobs list, but they should be allowed, I think, to vocally campaign for President Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
Yeah, and we'll see.
It's a no-brainer.
We've got a quick break coming up here.
Raheem Kassam is our guest.
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I was talking with Raheem Kassam about this question of unity, coalition building, how we're going to move forward with these various things.
Jamie Dimon running around saying that, you know, he loves MAGA all of a sudden after promoting Nikki Haley recently.
My phone's been, you know, you say ringing off the hook.
I guess my phone's been chiming off the hook or chirping off the hook.
Because unlike Joy Reid's living room, the only chirps in my living room are from my phone, not from my smoke detector battery alarm.
But, you know, I'm getting texts from all sorts of people that I just haven't heard from in about three and a half years.
And I'm sure you are as well, Rahim.
Rahim, one of the other questions I guess I have when we're talking about this sort of thing is really, I suppose, this idea that, so Nikki Haley is still in the race, okay?
And it's funny because we're talking about people who supported other candidates.
I don't actually know any Nikki Haley supporters.
I don't know if you do.
I can't even think of anyone who's like a conservative pundit that's a loud and proud Nikki Haley supporter.
And yet there is sort of an interesting thing and I said this the other day that It's almost better for Trump at the moment if Ron DeSantis stays in the race now that Nikki Haley is in the race because they basically cobble up the anti-Trump vote rather than having this sort of anti-Trump consolidated coalition against him.
What's your take on that?
Yeah, look, I think it looks better for President Trump right now if he can be said to be not just fighting the deep state and the globalist left, whether it's in Manhattan courtrooms or up on debate stages or town halls or whatever it is, also to be able to claim whether it's in Manhattan courtrooms or up on debate stages or town halls or whatever it is, also to Nikki Haley perhaps being chief rhino of them all or at least trying to crown herself as chief rhino.
It's very interesting.
I was reading a New York Times opinion piece on this this morning, which which just basically says Nikki Haley can't win.
It says Nikki Haley can't win because of a position on immigration, mass immigration, corporate driven mass immigration.
So she can't win because of her position on entitlements, a position on Social Security and so on and so forth.
And she also can't win because she is fundamentally out of touch with the American first base that very clearly, as if Aliya were was even needed to remind us of that.
But it was a stark reminder that MAGA makes up most of the Republican base at the moment.
So Haley's actually playing a fairly useful role, I think, right now for President Trump.
And you saw the poll that came out this morning, despite Chris Christie dropping out, Still 16 points difference there that may that may shrink a little bit that may close a little bit as Sununu and all of that put their shoulder to the wheel in New Hampshire but really New Hampshire therefore represents her last gasp there's nothing really after that that is showing us that she will put in any any way shape or form a significant performance Especially not in a state like Nevada, where she isn't actually even on the caucus list.
She was opted into the state primary there, was I think the only big name on that list, and so she'll only be able to claim a victory in Nevada on a ballot that nobody else was on.
It's the end of the road for her.
It just really depends on how long she wants to keep pacing up and down at the end of that road.
I think Ron DeSantis probably feels similarly.
He's laying off a bunch of staff, has laid off a bunch of staff in the last 24 hours and is reconciling everything now into other states.
It just doesn't last that long.
The money dries up, the impetus dries up, people stop coming out, people stop coming to your events.
It just becomes very embarrassing.
And credit to Vivek Ramaswamy for recognizing that.
That after the performance, after what he promised, by the way, in Iowa, and after that performance, people just weren't going to keep turning up.
I think that's right.
And I think, you know, I don't disparage a guy, by the way.
I saw the people saying, like, oh, he only got single digits.
But, you know, he almost broke double digits, as a matter of fact.
And to go from zero to that, zero political experience whatsoever to that, is something.
And so that's one of the reasons that I say, seats on the bus, right?
Seats on the bus.
But let's go back to Ron DeSantis as well, because he gave this statement, this very confusing to me statement, To NBC News in an interview to Dasha Burns, who we love of course, she's so wonderful, over at NBC News, where he's making this argument as if he is himself one of his own most ardent supporters.
We're told this guy's supposed to be an analyst, this guy's supposed to be the biggest brain in the room, And yet he's telling her, well, you know, I was really the second choice of a lot of voters, and a lot of people said that they're going to vote for me, you know, not this time, but maybe some other time.
And so we got... I'm sorry, you spent $200 million to find this out?
Raheem, what's going on here?
Well, I mean, you know, I hate to flog a dead horse here, and Ron DeSantis is nothing at the moment if not a dead horse.
But Between Jeff Rowe and Adam Laxalt and Christina Pushaw and a bunch of those, you know, so-called influencers that flew down to meet with him and hyped his little ego, You know, he was tricked, he was fooled, and he was made a fool of.
He's been made a fool of in a way, by the way, that people just won't forget.
It's not one of those things where you ran, you put in a good show, and maybe you can come back the next time.
He'll probably try and come back the next time, but actually he will carry these scars into any public position, into any election that he tries to get himself involved with in the future.
He went from, by the way, Being somebody who had a pretty valid claim to standing on a stage and saying, I get political victories, to being somebody who not just abandoned his state and has a lot of those victories undone while he's been away in Des Moines or wherever else he's been, but also now walks away with a massive L carved into his forehead.
That is what the end of the short political dynasty that Ronald de Santos was trying to create for himself looks like, and it should be, by the way, we talked about this in the last segment.
For a lot of those people, I'll repeat the names, Jeff Rowe, Adam Laxalt, Christina Peshaw, those types of people, it should actually represent the end of their political careers entirely. - Well, and here's the thing, right?
And this isn't like a personal animus or anything like that, but if you took that money, if you took all of this big dollar donor money, squandered it knocking doors in like Texas and South Carolina and places that just, you know, fundamentally didn't matter, all of these private plane flights, the donor meetings in Park City, Utah, Living large, you know, I get it.
I don't come from money.
You know, I was doing my first political internship in a Senate office while I was working at a deli to, you know, to make money in the Philly area.
And like, I get it.
But at the same time, who's answering the phone call when they see your name pop up now?
That's the part I don't get.
yeah i well look there will all be always be um d-list e-list f-list type people who will try to make with and that's what ron needs to be on the lookout for now right there's going to be all these people who can't make their way um really anywhere of consequence in in in politics who will try now to go oh ron you know let's let's do a podcast together or let's let's write a book together or you know any of these things and you know
honestly he should just disappear and get on with the business of running his state you know close the office door sit there with a stack of papers and actually get back to the business of running a state because florida for all of its gains over the last couple of years uh does have some major issues going on right there the insurance scandal uh that is that is still exploding in that state is just one of those things um and if he did that if he if he knuckled down and shows that hey i'm willing to take my lumps i'm willing to take the l get on with the work then
maybe maybe people will look back at him in a couple of years time and go okay okay maybe he learned his lessons maybe he changed but in the time being right this this arrogant defiance it's almost a childlike arrogance arrogant defiance where he goes in front of a camera guy's "no, no" that's you know it's it's a denialism That is that is not very masculine by the way
It's not a manly thing to do to shake your head and deny reality around you the network's Covered it early!
That's what it was!
The networks!
It's the networks' fault!
Even though, what's the analysis on that?
That's basic math, right?
So if you understand politics, if the networks called it early for Trump, then that depresses the Trump vote.
Because that means Trump supporters, who maybe heard about this, decided to go home and not support their guy.
That's what that depresses.
That doesn't depress the other votes.
Jack, you make a really good point here, because what was the primary headline, the primary anti-Trump headline on the back of Iowa?
It was, oh, turnout was down.
Turnout was down.
You know, never mind that you had a once-in-a-lifetime storm descent on the state just in time for the... And the fact that Democrats didn't hold a primary, they held a mail-in primary, or caucus.
Yeah, but then you had that early call.
Now listen, We all knew there was going to be an early call because we all knew there was going to be entrance polls.
So for the DeSantis people to turn around and go, oh, that caught us off guard.
Well, that just shows, again, that you don't know what you're doing.
You're unprepared.
And to say, because they've campaigned over the last year, we know how to take the fight to the deep state.
We know how to do these victories that Trump never did and all that.
To get rolled by an AP early call, that's your excuse?
Well, that's disqualifying.
No, look, when you play at the national level, you've got to face, look, the 51 lawmakers, you know, intel people coming out against you.
You've got to face this.
And by the way, here you and I sit four years later.
We had Hunter Biden's laptop!
Remember, we literally were sitting with Hunter Biden's laptop, getting it out, putting it out, doing everything we could.
And that's going up against the deep state, ladies and gentlemen.
And you saw how hard they had to fight back.
Raheem Kassam, where can people go to get the national pulse, which is really becoming just a mainstay of my Well, thank you, Jack.
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Alright, it occurs to me we haven't actually played the Jamie Dimon clip.
Guys, play SOT5.
I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA.
When people say MAGA, they're actually looking at people voting for Trump and they think they're voting, and they're basically scapegoating them, that you are like him.
But I don't think they're voting for Trump because of his family values.
Now if you look, just take a step back, be honest.
He's kind of right about NATO.
Kind of right about immigration.
He grew the economy quite well.
China virus.
Tax reform worked.
He was right about some of China.
I don't like what he did.
No, I said China virus.
Yeah, I understand.
And I don't like how he said things about Mexico.
But he wasn't wrong about some of these critical issues.
And that's why they're voting for him.
And I think people should be a little more respectful of our fellow citizens.
And when you guys have people up here, you should always ask the why.
Not like it's a binary thing.
You support Trump, you're not supporting Trump.
Why are you supporting Trump?
It's hard to hate 75 million of your fellow Americans.
Mike Benz is our guest.
Benz, what is Jamie Dimon up to?
This guy, I call him the chief crocodile officer of the swamp.
Well, they all come crawling back.
You know, it's kind of like if you're dating someone and then you see them on Instagram three years later and they have this big glow up and then you start rationalizing, oh, you know what, actually, they were Maybe we shouldn't have been in a fight over this.
They want to get back together.
All of them, they're seeing this glow up that Trump is having right now.
They all thought he was down and out.
He just blew everybody else away in Iowa.
Basically everything that was their worst fear about there not even being a close second, there's not even going to be a one-on-one because he's lapped them so hard.
And so now they are they are trying to appeal to a sense of flattery.
You can bet that Donald Trump will be you know the team around him will be sending that Jamie Dimon clip to him and you know Trump He does like flattery.
He does like when people say very nice things, especially if they have a certain amount of status like Jamie Dimon has.
But no, I mean, Chief Swamp Officer or Chief Crocodile is exactly right.
You know, Jamie Dimon, if Trump was in a tight race right now, the first person curb stopping him would be the head of J.P. Morgan.
But now, you know, whether he's angling for a secretary position or he's trying to sort of get in good graces, nothing about this clip should be taken at face value.
Well, it's so interesting to me, too.
I mean, look at the context of it.
He's at Davos, okay?
He's literally at the World Economic Forum.
He's wearing the Ukraine flag pin, but then if you notice, and I caught this, I've listened to this clip a couple times, I caught it this time, he says, I think Trump was right about NATO.
Excuse me, you're wearing a pin of Ukraine, which is a NATO operation currently, So, you know he doesn't believe anything that he's saying, but he's realizing that he's got an opportunity, and what can we say about that?
We love our bankers, folks.
Don't we have the best bankers?
What did Napoleon say?
Money has no patriotism.
So money has no patriotism.
Jamie Dimon, if he sees the door open just a little bit, he's gonna try to stick his, he couldn't even get his big toe, he got his baby toe in there.
But at the end of the day, you know, when we really do look at this, we've seen Eric Hoffman and so many more of these people who have been involved in what you've talked about all along, censorship of the internet.
funding Nikki Haley.
And isn't it interesting that right after Jamie Dimon starts talking about Nikki Haley, then Eric Hoffman funds her.
Then she makes this very bizarre statement, seemingly out of nowhere, that people who use social media shouldn't be able to hide their identities.
Ben, these things couldn't possibly be connected in any way, could they?
No, it's not like she just wakes up and reads off a teleprompter, Ron Burgundy style from Anchorman, whatever Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and NATO put on the jumbotron.
I I mean, she is she's a completely independent thinker.
You can tell there's a real motor working.
You know, those those heels, those heels don't pay for themselves.
You know, she she clearly wears them for ammunition.
Exactly.
She is.
I made a joke the other day that she's sort of like the evil Wario version of the Trump, there's a tweet for everything.
You know, it's like every occasion there's some buried archive tweet from Trump 15 years ago that's relevant and cool and interesting.
Well, you know, I mean, Nikki Haley, you go back to her archive and she's thanking Bill Gates for, you know, for creating the vaccines.
She's, you know, she's Basically calling to ban any form of internet anonymity.
Now, you can bet that she would not be calling to ban Internet anonymity in Russia or in Iran or in China or in Venezuela, where the DOD invented the anonymity software.
The DOD invented encrypted chat.
DOD invented VPNs to collect your IP address.
DOD invented the Tor network, the dark web.
All of these things were done so that we could fund dissident groups.
At least that's the thesis put forward in Surveillance Valley, which is sort of a long form treatise on the subject.
And the idea is that we support anonymity for dissident groups.
That way they can evade state control over media.
But what Nikki Haley wants is state control over media at home and state department control over media abroad.
Well, that's exactly right.
And so, when I look at Haley, and isn't it interesting as well that Jamie Dimon is up there, and again, I'll connect another dot.
Jamie Dimon is at the World Economic Forum.
What has been the No.
1 theme of the World Economic Forum this year?
It's not climate change.
It's not Ukraine.
It is censorship of the Internet.
They are painting a target directly on Elon Musk's forehead, and they're labeling it X.
No, that's exactly right.
And you know, NATO actually just yesterday tweeted about this cognitive security doctrine that they're developing around protecting people's cognition from misinformation online.
And you know, this is what we're living through right now is an echo of 2017, when after the 2016 election, NATO became apoplectic about losing hearts and minds and the way elections were tilting towards Trump in the U.S.
and towards right-wing populist parties in the U.K., in Italy, in Spain, in Greece, in France, and in Germany.
And so, you know, NATO began publishing a series of white papers in January 2017 saying that Mis and disinformation were the biggest threats.
Control over hearts and minds should be a bigger priority to NATO than military kinetic warfare.
They even created this whole new doctrine called hybrid warfare, which went by the coinage from tanks to tweets.
And Jen Stoltenberger went on a world tour from 2017 to 2019 talking about how NATO's new expanded realm is not just tanks anymore, it's tweets.
And we need to transition from a focus on tanks to tweets.
And, you know, that went away a little bit in the immediate aftermath of the Biden win, when they thought they had everything on lock and they could just get back to policy because no one could contest them.
But now that they're losing everywhere, now that Elon Musk bought Twitter, And now that they're getting subpoenaed and sued into oblivion right now in multiple censorship lawsuits, now that funding is running out to a lot of these universities and now that they're losing the Ukraine war, the focus is now back on cognitive warfare of their own people.
Cognitive warfare against their own people.
See this is why they've tried to take out people like Benz.
This is why they tried to take out me.
This is why they tried to talk take out anybody who's able to use these things because what can I say?
You know, I was a guy who came through the intel community, who went through all the trainings, who went through all of this stuff, was on the other side of these NATO briefings, and then all of a sudden 2016 came around and I said, gee, we could use this to win elections in the United States.
And so I started doing this on my off time.
Everyone knows the rest of the story, I think, there.
We've got a quick break coming up, but it's very clear they are trying to shut down the internet.
They're locking up our meme makers.
They're doing everything they can to stop the American people from actually exercising their constitutional right to speak and their constitutional right to vote.
Mike Benz joins us after the break.
Alright, Jack Posobiec back here live talking to Mike Benz, Foundation for Freedom Online, and we're talking about the fact, and he's been calculating this for a long time, the level of people now who are discussing censorship of the internet and the fact the World Economic Forum has decided that for this year, their theme will be censoring the internet itself.
We've heard people talk about this online.
We've seen it in documents.
This is, I think, Ben's, the biggest forum that we've ever seen when it comes to this.
Yeah.
I mean, the fact is, is they see it as the master issue and control over everything else is downstream of that.
And, you know, there's a real sense of panic now because they've thrown the entire kitchen sink At the at the populist wave across the world.
You know, whether that's four different indictments against Trump, they arrested Marine Le Pen in France for hate speech.
They tried to contain this everywhere.
Nothing is working.
And so now it's escalated all the way up to the chain.
And it looks like there's sort of a final battle we're preparing for in 2024.
Well, I think it's exactly right.
And they realize, right, and there's this great, by the way, Michael Moore clip from 2016 that's making the rounds right now.
And he says, look, the people who have been dispossessed, the Joe blows and the Steve blows and the Billy Joes and the Bob Joes and the Billy Bob blows, they're going to go around and they're going to blow up the entire system by voting for Donald J. Trump.
And this is the system that has been against These guys and I think we have this, we have this issue, by the way, of the Atlantic Council.
Let's put it up.
And there you go.
So so Ben's, what are we looking at?
And why do I see my name on Atlantic Council document on the cover, which is a NATO directly linked organization?
So this is an amazing document here from 2018.
Right after the French election of Emmanuel Macron versus Marine Le Pen, which was a big deal election for NATO because Marine Le Pen was running on strengthening energy relations with Russia because she wanted chief energy for her country rather than expensive LNG coming from Houston or from London.
And so what you're looking at right here is a network node map.
of the spreaders of mis and disinformation online, according to NATO, that was that was related to these leaked documents around Macron and responsible for severely undermining him at the polls.
It was a razor tight election.
Now, the Atlantic Council is a very interesting institution.
They're the ones who authored this report.
They have seven former number one heads of the CIA on their board of directors.
A lot of people don't even know seven CIA directors are still alive, heads of the CIA are still alive, let alone all concentrated on the board of a single entity, effectively the top dog in the censorship space.
They get millions of dollars from the U.S.
government every year.
All four branches of the U.S.
military pay the Atlantic Council.
The Marines, the Air Force, the Navy, the Army, The State Department gives them money.
The National Endowment for Democracy, the CIA cut out, gives them money.
This report is authored by Daniel Fried, who is on the National Endowment for Democracy.
That is our premier CIA cut out.
So you have basically the CIA authoring But they're funneling this through a U.S.
the CIA, the DOD and the State Department calling you, Jack Posobiec, the number one scourge of the Internet, stopping NATO from dominating its political agenda to shore up support for NATO in Europe.
But they're funneling this through a U.S. censorship organization.
And the picture I'm trying to paint here is this is how it gets all the way to Davos.
It starts at a place like the Atlanta Council.
It starts at a place like the CIA.
And then it moves its way up between 2018 and 2024, all the way to the point where it where it becomes the number one top dog issue about control over the Internet.
I mean, it's amazing, too.
And people, of course, what you're referring to is when I leaked the campaign emails of the Emmanuel Macron campaign, who was running against Le Pen in 2017, the week before the election, or I think just as the election was beginning, and put it out on the internet, and I'll have to say it again, I never talked to any Russians when I got that information.
I never talked to any, uh, uh, any spies.
I never talked to anything like that.
It was, I heard that it was going to be coming out on 4chan, so I went to 4chan.
Yes, I know, it's a terrible, awful, evil place, and I sat there pressing refresh until I found it.
Yes, and you know what the Atlanta Council did there, and you see that in that network map, is it wasn't just you, you were the biggest node, but they mapped out every single influencer you connected to, every single node that amplified what you said.
I mean, this is essentially domestic intelligence work, and calling you directly, you know, that democracy needs to be defended against Jack Posobiec.
Now, you know, so DOD, by the way, who's paying for this, and the CIA who's paying for this, and the State Department who's paying for this, are not allowed, they are prohibited by law from operations on U.S.
soil or against U.S.
citizens.
That is a hard, fast rule.
They are blocked from doing that.
They are not domestic facing U.S., you know, stateside institutions.
And yet here they are laundering it to the Atlantic Council to do that, where they would be blocked by law from doing directly.
It's really amazing.
And of course, you know, the people they have involved in this, you know, the names change around, but not too much.
The players change around, but not too much.
And now we've seen these very same operations, you know, back in 2017, 2018, they said, well, maybe we can just...
Just get rid of Posobiec or Alex Jones or some of these people, then maybe that'll be enough.
But then, all of a sudden, Elon Musk purchases X. And I know we only have a couple of minutes left, but what he really did here was Elon cut off their conduit.
He cut off their pipe.
And I asked, and how do I know this by the way?
Because I asked him to his face virtually on a Spaces on the X platform.
I said, if the FBI comes to you and orders you to take down legal information, what will you do?
And he said, I would be willing to go to jail rather than take something down.
Mike Benz, last minute is yours.
Yeah, well, that's exactly right.
You know, Elon Musk is He's the Trump card in the deck when it comes to internet freedom.
He's that card you just throw down and everything else gets swept underneath it.
He's the single wealthiest man in the world.
He owns multiple of the most powerful companies in the world.
Most powerful like SpaceX and Tesla, but these are linchpin organizations that DOD and state and even to some extent the CIA rely on.
Like for example, SpaceX.
When I was at the State Department, we relied heavily on SpaceX.
They had a seat at the table, so to speak, because We use their satellites as instruments of statecraft.
We can't just boss SpaceX around.
We need them.
So the fact that Elon has an empire of assets is something that allows him uniquely to operate in this space that other billionaires might not.
But it's going to be a wild time.
There are a million tricks they're up to, but we have all the momentum now.
Mike Benz, follow him, Mike Benz Cyber, on XFFOfreedom.
Go check him out.
He's got some interesting yoga videos, if you're into that.
I don't know, a little pagan for me, folks.
But what can I say?
It's all about coalition building.
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