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	Hey, what's up, Alex?
	What's up, Roger?
	Oh, do we have General Flynn?
	He's going in and out?
	He does?
	What's up, Roger?
	Excellent.
	This is amazing.
	Great to be here.
	This is the future, guys.
	I see the mighty MTG is there, the great General Flynn, all these great people.
	Oh, do we have General Flynn?
	I think he probably popped in for a minute and disappeared.
	He's going in and out.
	He does.
	He's on covert ops tonight, I guess.
	Yeah.
	He's rocking it.
	Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
	Special edition, whatever you want to call it, Iowa Eve Town Hall, We're calling this the Great Suppression.
	I want to thank Real America's Voice for hosting this for us.
	I know they are putting it together and they're going to try to get some people on in terms of that.
	But before we go in, you know, I know there's a lot going on.
	We have a lot to talk about, the state of our nation, the state of our world, because It's big, and tonight is not just the night before the Iowa caucuses when the election of 2024, the frontlines of globalism in the blizzard Covered, blizzard-strewn streets and alleyways and byways of the Iowa caucuses tomorrow.
	That's the front line against globalism.
	But Davos is actually kicking off tomorrow, the World Economic Forum's latest summit.
	So before we got into all of those topics and issues of the people trying to control our minds and control our brains, I wanted to bring up Roger Stone here because The Iowa caucuses are something that Roger has been covering every single cycle going back, I think, all the way to the first election, if I remember that correct.
	Is that correct, Roger?
	You were covering them in George Washington's election?
	Yeah, as you know, I was head of youth for George Washington.
	Yes, yes, precisely.
	And so I was hoping that, given your expertise, you could give us sort of the, you know, a handicap on tomorrow's Iowa caucus, as you see it right now.
	Thank you, Jack.
	First of all, I'm very grateful to be here.
	And frankly, I'm grateful to Elon Musk for letting me back on what was Twitter is now X. In case you're wondering, I'm still Banned for Life at Facebook.
	I'm still Banned for Life at Instagram.
	I'm still Banned for Life at YouTube.
	It's curious.
	I can't quite understand.
	They never actually tell you why you're banned, but until you lose your free speech rights, you really don't realize how much you should cherish them.
	So I'm happy to be back.
	I do want to say at the top, there is a Roger Stone on Facebook.
	He's been asking people for money.
	He's selling crypto.
	He's offering people jobs.
	Folks, that is not me.
	Don't fall for that.
	I've complained multiple times.
	Unfortunately, nobody there seems to want to do anything about it.
	I'm glad to be here with my good friend Alex Jones.
	Excited to see Marjorie Taylor Greene in the queue.
	Let me speak as Jack to your questions because we are on the cusp of something extraordinarily historic.
	The last president Who served a term as president, was cheated out of re-election and came back to win, was Grover Cleveland, a New Yorker, the last of the great conservative Democrats.
	And I think we are on the cusp of seeing this same thing again.
	I'm a believer in polling, although sophisticated polling in a caucus or primary situation is always more volatile, and one needs to be a little more cautious with it, but only in those instances where things are close or very tight.
	That is certainly not the case here.
	As a veteran of 13 national Republican presidential campaigns.
	There are certain telltale things you look for.
	The most important measure in Iowa is, has any candidate reached 50 percent?
	Just in the last couple days, in the Des Moines Register poll, in the Interactive poll, Donald Trump has crested and actually gotten 53, 55 and a different measure.
	So that is an extraordinarily good sign for the Trump campaign.
	But I also think that Trump has avoided making a mistake that one of my previous bosses, Ronald Reagan, made in 1980.
	I was on with Alex Jones earlier this evening, just a little while ago, and there was a time in which Reagan was leading in the polls in Iowa by 20 points, took it for granted, did not Visit the state in the closing days of that race.
	George H.W.
	Bush, he of the New World Order.
	Visited all 99 counties, built an extraordinary voter ID and turnout operation, and pulled off an upset victory.
	Now, because Reagan was an extraordinary candidate, and because Trump, pardon me, because Bush wasn't really ready for the scrutiny, Reagan snapped back to win New Hampshire, then ran the tables on the rest of the primaries, Trump has not made this mistake.
	He's taking nothing for granted.
	He was there last week for a series of extraordinarily effective and large events.
	He flew back in last night in really viciously cold weather to do, I think, three events today.
	He's going to continue working for every last vote.
	Where's the rest of this race?
	Everybody's going to focus on who comes in second, but let us stress, whoever is second will be a distant second.
	Nobody is going to press Donald Trump here.
	He's going to win a historic victory.
	No Republican has ever won the caucuses by more than 12.
	I confidently believe he will easily exceed that.
	And to his credit, his campaign under the Very able leadership of Susie Wiles and Chris Lasavita and James Blair, three of the very best political operatives, strategists, mechanics, experts that I know.
	They have built an extraordinarily effective voter identification and turnout operation, second to none.
	Now Governor DeSantis spent a lot of money, but you can't turn out votes you don't have.
	I'm confident at this point the Trump campaign Has positively identified almost 100,000 Iowa voters in a contest in which we may get 150,000 people turn out.
	Will the numbers overall be depressed because of the frigid temperatures?
	Conceivably, but this is where the intensity of Trump's support is absolutely key.
	If you examine the intensity, 9 out of 10 Trump voters now say that there's no possibility that they would not vote for Trump and 8 out of 10 say there's no possibility that they won't show up.
	regardless of any obstacle.
	Reagan never had this kind of intensity.
	Those who were for Trump were extraordinarily loyal.
	So it really shifts now to the battle for second, because that's going to define the race going into New Hampshire.
	There's only eight days between the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.
	And it is very clear that DeSantis has invested heavily, at least in terms of spending money on trying to build some structure.
	But I don't think at this juncture, if he turned out every voter he has positively identified as being for him, that does not necessarily guarantee him a second place finish.
	Nikki Haley, who is Dick Cheney in heels, the candidate of the Uniparty, the candidate of the neocons, the candidate of the Republican establishment, is relying solely on extraordinarily heavy media buys, broadcast television, cable television, digital advertising, radio, mailings, text messages, at saturation levels.
	And much of this money, if you track it, is coming from liberal democratic sources.
	But she is going to try to buy a second place finish.
	The polls do indicate that the mainstream media buildup is working.
	And if you believe the polls, she would be a couple points ahead of DeSantis.
	Does all that money DeSantis spent Paying off evangelicals, paying off state legislators.
	Laura Loomer has documented much of this.
	Will that pay off in terms of the final result?
	Or does Nikki Haley surge based on free media coverage to a second place finish?
	If so, and I predicted this again on the Alex Jones Show tonight, look for the following headline.
	Haley obsessed DeSantis in Iowa victory.
	Small subhead.
	Trump comes in first as expected.
	So watch the media.
	Try to downplay and try to minimize what is really a smashing victory by Trump and try to elevate Nikki Haley saying she's quote-unquote a winner because she exceeded expectations to beat Governor DeSantis.
	Look, the DeSantis campaign is on life support.
	He is withdrawn from New Hampshire.
	He is withdrawn from Nevada.
	He's withdrawn from South Carolina, having, pardon me, pissed away millions of dollars in those states earlier, as well as a number of other states.
	That his campaign will never actually compete in.
	And this is do or die for him.
	If he is not in second place, albeit a distant second place, his best bet would be to drop out and endorse Donald Trump.
	Will he do that?
	I'm not privy to what Casey decides they're going to do.
	But I think he's, by and large, finished in this campaign.
	Now, what will happen, just to wrap this up, if Nikki Haley is successful in coming in a distant second, the media will try to make that a quote-unquote win.
	New Hampshire is a state in which independents are allowed to vote in the Republican primary.
	Governor Chris Sununu, who is a duplicitous backstabber, much like his father, Governor John Sununu, who lied to me when I was working for Jack Kemp, and also lied to Senator Bob Dole for, I guess, 11 months, told us he wasn't committed to George Bush.
	Then he was.
	Kind of duplicity runs in this family.
	He is working very hard to pull independents into the Republican primary, For an upset.
	I think that's highly unlikely, but that is the establishment's best chance to overtake Trump.
	I think it will fail, but at least they are naked in their attempt.
	So that's kind of the layup.
	I think to finish this off, Vivek Ramaswamy You know, these late developments are things that I'm following, but it appears to me that he, as bright as he is at the last minute here, stumbled badly in his messaging.
	One thing you never want to do, having known him for 45 years, is anger Donald Trump.
	He's a very tough customer, and I think he's made it very clear, if you are America first, Uh, if you are a MAGA Republican, the time is now.
	Why would you vote?
	Why would you go listen to a Beatles tribute band when you can listen to the Beatles?
	We have the founder of the America First Movement in Donald Trump.
	Ramaswamy may be a nice fellow.
	I don't know.
	But we have our champion.
	And if you are an America First voter right now, and the Uniparty is pressing in with Nikki Haley, then every vote counts.
	It is essential for Trump to win both Iowa and New Hampshire by the largest possible margin.
	All right, Jack, I'm going to leave it there.
	And Roger and Jack, I both agree with you.
	I see General Flynn just got on, so I'd like to, if I can, please go next.
	I have big news, so that both Jack Wasobu, who's got great military background, but of course the great gravitas of General Flynn, can hear this.
	I'm sure you guys always are aware of anything I'm aware of.
	You're going to be aware of this, but I have massive new developments.
	Alex, can you hear me?
	Or Jack, can you hear me?
	General, we've got you on, sir.
	We've got you on just fine.
	Roger was just kind of wrapping up.
	He thinks Trump's going to come in big tomorrow.
	Uh, then, then probably Haley and Santos looks about third.
	Vivek, we're not sure what's going on with there, but, but, uh, Alex said he had some breaking news that he wanted to get out if, if you're, uh, if you're ready to listen.
	Yeah, please.
	I'd rather, I'd much rather hear Alex.
	He's always, he's such an unbelievable researcher.
	Go ahead.
	Well, far be it for me to try to get to stop Alex Jones from talking, you know?
	No, no.
	Listen, I'm happy to wait and hear what General Flynn has to say.
	What a great, you know, eight, nine minute analysis of Roger Stone dead on.
	This just broke this afternoon, and it's the new talking point, and it's everywhere.
	So it's some really good news, but it's also some really bad news.
	It'll take a few minutes to get into, and then I'll give you my take.
	And I want to get General Flynn's take, and Jack's take, and also, obviously, Roger's take.
	All the great hosts and journalists that are tuned in right now as this thing explodes.
	Ladies and gentlemen, they, and I don't want us to think Trump's already won, I don't want us to think we don't have to campaign hard or push hard, but the deep state, just as they did in 2016 when Trump was the nominee, and just as they did before the 2000 election, led by Senator Blumenthal and the Clintons, I've got it all right here, and Obama and George Soros, I've got Newsweek, I've got NBC, I've got CBS, I've got everything.
	This is just breaking.
	Legal experts gear up for feared military takeover by Donald Trump.
	Another one, and they're bringing up Flynn, by the way.
	NBC, fears grow that Trump will use the military in dictatorial ways if he returns the White House.
	So, here's the Infowars version of it that's obviously the real boil down.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	And Alex, in addition to that, I would just throw another out to you.
	NBC News today, which this I saw over Twitter, a series of non-governmental organizations is joining together to prevent Trump from taking control of the military should he win.
	I know that's exactly the story that you've been tracking.
	Absolutely.
	So I just wanted to upfront get this out here because think of this and I've got I spent hours reading this their actual document they put out.
	Yes, a group of NGOs funded by the Clinton initiative Soros and the Obama Foundation's because I took me an hour to track it back to who's funding it led by Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut.
	We know his quarterback so much of this are now flipping the script and saying, okay, Looks like Trump's going to win.
	And I'm not putting the cart before the horse.
	They are already now panicking, setting up contingency programs, knowing he's going to probably win Iowa by a historic 50%.
	As Roger said on my show, no one's ever won by more than 12 points.
	So this shows landslide proportions, total panic.
	And when you read this, Battle plan, they say, OK, looks like Trump's going to win when Black Lives Matter burns down the country and he declares the insurrection act, which George Herbert Walker Bush did in 1992 for the L.A.
	riots, which I think something he should have done.
	I don't agree with much of what he said.
	We're going to basically remove him from office, and they're drafting a law with Senator Blumenthal and other Democrats that they're going to announce next week to try to preemptively remove the power of the president.
	I'm not General Flynn, an expert on this, or Jack Posobiec, an expert.
	But I do know the law and we elect the president and he's representation of us and if there's burning buildings and things burning down in a communist uprising, much worse than we saw in 2000, then it is the power of the president to call up the National Guard.
	So they're trying to remove.
	The power of the president to quell things, and they want to be able to go to a civil war and then neuter the president up front, saying he can't call out the military.
	So continuing here, they actually say in the NBC News article, William Cohen, the former Secretary of Defense, says that Trump wants to be a dictator.
	Quote, it's clear and present danger to our democracy.
	And they basically capitulate and believe he's going To win and go on to say that there are any array of horrors that could result from Donald Trump's unrestricted use of insurrection act, Senator Blumenthal said.
	And they go on to say that they want Congress to remove the power of the executive.
	So basically a pre-impeachment or abort him before he even gets elected.
	They say the Democrat lawmakers know to be adversarial to Trump and are working on a parallel track with these NGOs.
	They go on to say they know Trump wants to be a dictator with no proof.
	And while they've done all the surveillance and censorship and persecution and indicted him, so everything they've done, they're now trying to project
	And invert onto President Trump, which to me the big takeaway is they're desperate, they know they're losing, and so now they're already, instead of thinking about assassinating him, God forbid, or something else, to me this is very positive news, even though it's negative, you know, at one level, it's positive that they're already putting their full energies, the same crew that said he was a Russian agent, the same crew that went after General Flynn,
	The same crew that tried to neuter him before he got in office when he was president-elect is now admitting basically defeat and putting out the panic alarm that they're going to then have a communist-style uprising and perpetual endless civil war.
	And that then if the executive branch does its duty and quells the racial uprising, they admit the documents they're planning, which they've been pre-programming, that he is then a traitor.
	Someone asked the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the former top national security advisor, if you don't have a better person, he can cover something else if he'd like to do it later.
	But please, General Flynn, respond.
	And also, Jack Posobiec, I will now mute my mic.
	Yeah, a couple of things.
	First, I listened a little bit to Roger's analysis, and it doesn't get any better than that.
	I think the big picture is by 6 March, which is a Wednesday, the primaries will be all but over.
	Trump will be the candidate for the Republican Party going forward.
	So we have a few weeks left.
	I think all these candidates after this historic victory by Trump here this week, they all need to just back out and get behind him.
	Because really what I've been saying all along, and I've been saying it for a while, that we really have a country to save.
	And the only guy that's That's capable of doing that right now in the sort of the near term is Donald Donald J. Trump.
	So I appreciate Rogers analysis and he's spot on and I do believe that this is going to be a historic.
	Victory.
	And I think over the next couple of weeks, we're going to see even more of that.
	The egos of people like Haley and DeSantis and some of the people that are behind them are going to continue to get in the way.
	I think Ramaswamy did himself a big disfavor here, disservice here in the last 24, 48 hours with some of his comments.
	And I'll leave it at that.
	With with what we're seeing, this is really to me, and I said this over the last couple of days on a couple of different shows that I was on.
	What we've seen in the last probably two or three weeks is we've seen more and heard more from Eric Holder, Barack Obama and Michelle Obama.
	Then we've heard in the last three years.
	So they've been out because they know that that their guy is not doing the service that they need to have done.
	And I'm talking about Biden now and that you're going to start to see all kinds of manipulations inside of the White House to to figure out ways to to get him out of the way.
	And they're going to get him out of the way.
	Believe me, there's no way in the world that They're going to allow Joe Biden to go to a convention this summer.
	So back to this article that came out.
	And this is not something that's been going on for for a little while or, you know, or just in one article.
	These people have been contemplating this.
	And there's people like Mary McCord who are behind this.
	If you go and look at who Mary McCord is and who her husband is, her husband is.
	Is an individual who works directly for John Roberts at the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	I mean, these are people that are directly behind this, and they're inside of different parts of our government.
	And really, to me, what this represents is this represents a form of subversion.
	It's subversion by government officials who are in office right now.
	It's also subversion by former government officials.
	And I don't use that word loosely when I use the word subversion.
	Subverting the election process, the political process, the constitutional process of our country to subvert What they know is anything but a hands down type victory that they're already perceiving that Donald Trump is going to win in November of 2024.
	And I keep saying I always will caveat this is that that's if we have an election, because the fact that these people are thinking like this and acting like this, they are going to also come up with other scenarios and other plays, if you will.
	To consider how that we can get to some other place that this country will be in.
	And I don't mean by a duly elected president.
	I mean something totally different.
	I don't know what that is quite yet.
	I have played out some scenarios and I actually was on Alex's show not too long ago and I talked a little bit about this.
	But so this is clearly subversion by a group of people.
	Some that are in government.
	Most are out.
	But they are people that have served in very, very significant positions, national intelligence level, certainly the Department of Defense and state and and clearly within the Justice Department.
	So these are not people that are that are just, you know, Johnny, come lately.
	These are people that are very serious.
	Very knowledgeable, and they're very well connected to the current power holders, those that hold the levers of power of our government right now.
	So this is a very serious, people need to pay very close attention to this article.
	I would also recommend going back to, I think it was the Atlantic article, if I'm not mistaken, back in early part of 2021 that laid out the The, the theft of our 2020 election where they were, where they were bragging about it.
	And, and I, I, you know, forgive me for, for forgetting the name of the, uh, the article, but I, but people will remember February or March timeframe when that General, General, there was also a Time Magazine where they bragged.
	Yeah, that's what it was.
	Time.
	Thank you, Alex.
	It was Time Magazine.
	The headline was, the headline was, this is how we did it.
	And it talks about all the former and current intelligence agencies, the media, and the neocons, how they stole the election, how they suppressed the people.
	Yeah, so if that article was, this is how we did it, this latest article is, you know, the theme is, this is how we're going to do it.
	OK, and I and I mean that these are these are not people that play by any kind of fair rules at all.
	They play by their rules, and we should not underestimate their ability to be able to pull something like this off.
	The undermining of our military and I call it the re-culturalization or the re-socialization of our military leadership and I do think that we're going to see another purge of our military here in the next probably three to six months.
	I believe we're going to see some other significant changes now that the new chairman is in his seat and he's fully in his seat and we see the weakness of the of the Secretary of Defense.
	God knows if he's even, you know, able to do anything at this stage, but the leadership in the Department of Defense will make changes here in the coming months to secure a better foothold, a better stance, if you will, for the kinds of things that these people are contemplating.
	Do not underestimate this enemy, and I call them that very precisely because they are adversaries of our way of life, they are adversaries of our constitutional duties and responsibilities.
	And these are many people are anti-American, they're part of the Democratic Socialist Party of America, or worse, the Communist Party of America.
	And they are inside of our government, they're inside of our institutions, and they mean exactly what it is that they say.
	And I'll finish with going back to what I said at the beginning.
	This is a form of subversion and subverting the powers that are given to a president of the United States, a duly elected president of the United States, By the Constitution, powers that the Constitution given the executive leader of our country, just as they did where they undermined a duly elected, a duly selected candidate in President Trump after the November 2016 election.
	And then they undermined him when he was the president of the United States.
	And they did that under the guise of Barack Obama.
	And I think that there's a reason why Barack Obama has stayed in Washington, D.C.
	And like I said, Barack and Eric, his buddy, his wingman Eric, and his wife Michelle have been out for the last couple of weeks speaking out more than I've heard them in the last three years.
	When you see that happen, you know that they are deathly afraid of losing power.
	And I'll stop there and go back to you.
	Well, General, I just have one quick question, then I'm going to sit back and let Jack and obviously Roger respond.
	But I think your term is historic and legal and with your military background dead on.
	But subversion against the country is treason.
	It is a coup.
	And what you're talking about is stay behind networks that Obama put in when Trump won the election.
	With the Countering Foreign Disinformation Propaganda Act.
	And so when I say this is positive, it shows they now believe they're going to lose.
	They're scared to kill Trump.
	It'll make him even bigger, you know, as an icon.
	So I believe that I'm not saying we've already won, folks, but that they're already wargaming their plan B and moving to that very quickly.
	Very influential groups.
	Can you speak to what, you know, when you talk about the stay behind networks, meaning they know Trump's about to get back in.
	So they want to do a replay, but even worse, of 2016, where they have all their operatives working against him in the government and at the top of the Pentagon.
	Can you speak to what stay-behind networks mean?
	Kind of an Operation Gladio example, but here in the U.S., and then how you think we counter those.
	Yeah.
	And so what they did in 2016 and 2017 timeframe, they left a whole bunch.
	They left thousands of what, what Alex is talking about.
	And what they do is they go from appointed officials or, or people that are, that are not civil servants and they bring them in or they appoint them as what's called HQEs, highly qualified experts.
	And they put them into all kinds of places throughout the government.
	And in the case of the Obama administration, they did that to the tune of thousands.
	And most people that came in with the Trump administration, in fact, I would say almost 95% of the people that came in with Trump had no idea that this was taking place and don't even understand, still probably to this day, what an HQE is and how many of these HQEs you can actually put into positions and what HQEs, highly qualified experts, what that means and what kind of authorities they have.
	to be able to do things to basically manage our government.
	I mean, when you talk about a deep state bureaucracy, it's not just the civil servants.
	It's not just the senior executives.
	It's also a litany of other types of people that are allowed to stay in government.
	And they get paid a lot of money to be HQEs.
	And if they're working on the, you know, in this case, for the other side or for the previous administration, or if they go ahead and place them and shift them over into other positions within the government, you know, if a Trump victory occurs in November, if a Trump victory occurs in November, one of them One of the things that has to happen is there has to be, literally, there does have to be a cleansing of a lot of these people that frankly don't belong in the government any longer.
	They absolutely take up space, they take a lot of taxpayer dollars, and all they're doing is they are literally, in the case of the 2016 to 2017 transition, they are subverting The the duly elected president of the United States of America, and in this case, it was Donald Trump.
	And this is essentially what they're talking about again.
	So last point, last one, I'll shut up.
	I don't want anybody to to to because there's a lot of people that are going to listen to this tonight.
	People still need to get out and vote.
	Everybody don't don't assume that Donald Trump's going to win this thing hands down.
	I believe he He will have a major victory, but people still need to get out and vote.
	And regardless of what you think about the voting integrity of our systems, of our voting systems, you still got to get out and vote.
	We can't have a 40% or a 50% turnout.
	We have to have like an 80% or 90% turnout.
	I totally agree.
	I totally agree.
	Actually, actually, and if I could go back in, guys, on Mary McCord, thank you, General, as well for that.
	And of course, the General is exactly right when it comes to these leave-behind networks.
	There's one thing on Mary McCord I need to explain, and another part is talking about why they're getting into the Insurrection Act.
	Number one, Mary McCord, she has been at the center of every single piece of the nullification project and the deconstruction project of the Trump presidency since day one.
	She was running the Justice Department's National Security Division for the Mueller investigation, which turned into the Mueller investigation under Under James Comey, then originally under Holder.
	She is the one who submitted the FISA application to spy on the Trump campaign.
	She's the one who originally did that.
	This was the rule change at the CIA, all the Horowitz stuff, joining the FISA court, and I was actually just reading through her sort of background here on conservative treehouse, and Sundance has done a great job there.
	And it even points out that Mary McCord actually created the Logan Act claim, which was falsely used against General Flynn, who of course we have here tonight, and as you well know, and then went with Sally Yates to confront the White House about this.
	She's the one who's created all this stuff, so the fact that she's involved, and she's also, what's she been doing lately?
	Oh, she's been working with the January 6th Committee as one of their key staffers.
	The same January 6th Committee staff that we found most recently was secretly meeting with who?
	Fannie Willis.
	Before she was able to put out the Fulton County prosecution and so we know it's all connected.
	It's all connected.
	It's all the same people.
	It's all the same names.
	What's key about this and if I could.
	If I could throw it to Alex, and then I want to open up to more people, is that Alex, the fact that they're talking about the Insurrection Act, it's very clear to me what they're actually warning.
	And I think you're saying it, but I wanted to spell it out for people.
	When President Trump talked about invoking the Insurrection Act, that's for using military power to put down what?
	Domestic unrest.
	This was last used in the LA riots in the 1990s.
	Now, we know that the Insurrection Act in 2020, when we had an actual armed domestic violent insurrection throughout the summer of 2020, was only invoked in Washington, D.C.
	You didn't really have to because D.C.
	is actually a federal district.
	But I remember being in D.C.
	in 2020 and we would see ATF and Bureau of Prisons and BORTAC was going out.
	BORTAC went up to Portland as well at the federal courthouse there.
	But the Insurrection Act, you did not see military troops going into American cities to put down unrest.
	So Alex, what it seems to me, what they're foreshadowing is, and it's actually a threat.
	It's actually a threat.
	And this is what's key.
	They're threatening that if he's elected again, they're saying the same networks that General Flynn, and you mentioned this, that they said they were going to activate at the end of 2020.
	They didn't end up activating them.
	They're going to activate them, potentially, if it looks like Trump's going to win.
	I'm saying, I think they might even do this on Election Day or beforehand.
	Alex, what is your analysis when it comes to that?
	Well, Jack, I totally agree with you.
	That's why I've got General Flynn and you here that are, I'm being serious, are the few of the people that actually understand this.
	They have telegraphed that they are going to launch major civil unrest like they did in the summer of 2000.
	They say, That they're going to activate Black Lives Matter.
	And then basically, Brand Trump is this big racist Hitler, and he can't call out the military to quell it.
	So they're trying to basically geld him or castrate him ahead of this and trying to have the Congress, which isn't going to happen, but it's for PR purposes, pass a law that the president cannot call out the military as Bush did, and rightfully so, during the 1992 riots.
	So we could have a better expert than General Flynn, you know, to speak to this.
	And I know you're really, you're very informed to understand this.
	And I'm not saying we've won, but now they're moving on from assassination They may still try it.
	They understand that the indictments have blown up in their face.
	Everything's unraveling.
	The Supreme Court is going to override it.
	They understand there's a major political realignment.
	And so to have the key people involved in the coup, the soft coup of 2016, to block everything Trump did, to remove Flynn so he couldn't remove these networks, they're going back to their original plan really of digging in.
	So they're kind of Let's say this, they're moving at least at one level away from offense, and they're still on offense, but at least they're now, before they were doing nothing on defense because they were so confident.
	Now their arrogance has disappeared, which makes them more dangerous because they realize there's a major landslide already happening as evidence of what we're about to see in Iowa.
	And so what we know from the people voting with dead names and people voting out of district They tried it in Texas, they tried it in Florida in the midterms a year ago, and also three years ago in 2020 in Texas and Florida, they ran out of the dead people, and so they were unable to have that curve that happened in Michigan.
	They're looking at the tea leaves and realizing they're actually losing.
	Doesn't mean we've won, folks, but we've got the initiative.
	And so they're activating all their spooks, all their deep state operatives, the Biden administration.
	Last week, even corporate media reported that Obama went and read the riot act to Biden and said, you will follow our orders.
	He told campaign staff, don't listen to him.
	As Flynn said, as Roger said, that they're preparing to remove him.
	And I don't think the gimmick of Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom is going to work.
	So yeah, we've started to win the war.
	We have the initiative, but they're going to come down with everything they've got.
	And that's why it's key to be tomorrow's news today and to really get ahead of this.
	Right now and point out all this dictator stuff, all this censorship, all these arrests, all the persecution is them.
	Trump isn't a dictator, as the Wall Street Journal and New York Times and Washington Post said he wants to be.
	They're the ones trying to create this totalitarian oligarchy of bureaucrats and neocons and Democrats over America.
	And so for me, yeah, get out and vote, win the caucuses, get, you know, make Trump the nominee, but General Flynn's right.
	He's going to get that nomination.
	And so then we have to think about the election fraud, the dead people voting, the virus they'll release for new lockdowns, the domestic terror they're going to launch ahead of this, branding, I would say racial false flags, branding Trump as a racist, George Floyd 10.0 to the 10th power.
	So, so all I'm saying is it's good that we're just as smart as the enemy or smarter.
	We know their plan.
	They're activating the same networks that saw Flynn as the number one.
	And I'm not just saying this to kiss Flynn's ass.
	He was their number one enemy.
	Trump was smart enough to know Flynn before.
	He knew nobody else.
	He wasn't from Washington.
	He put one good guy in, and that's why he was the first target.
	But now, we are smarter.
	We've already been through this again, and they're running the same play on us right now.
	Yeah.
	Let me just jump in on a couple of things, because I know, Jack, you want to bring some others in.
	I think this is really important that this particular conversation that we're having is and the ability for us to have this.
	And I think we need to do this actually more often because it allows us to organize and allows us to understand and allows us to be able to determine what What things each of us can do sort of individually or as small groups.
	And because I would say that what I am seeing, you know, kind of like, well, how do we fix this?
	How do we how do we overcome this?
	Right?
	Because that's that's my thing.
	I've always been.
	You know, it's clear what the problems are, but what is it that we do to overcome this and to beat this inertia?
	We're going to see other names pop up.
	We mentioned a couple tonight on their side, right?
	But we're going to see other names on their side pop up.
	But what is happening is I see it, and I think all of us do.
	We see a lot of influencers popping up on the networks.
	We see people like Alex and Jack.
	And Roger and many others.
	There's many other influencers out there that are that are all in the same.
	We're much more on the same sheet of music now than we were even going into 2020.
	And we've learned a lot of lessons.
	We also have a lot of small groups sort of on the battle space out there on the field of America, doing a lot of really good, strong, positive things, whether it's people in Arizona, people in Illinois, people in Georgia.
	And we have our own lawfare battles being waged and going on, and we're winning in some cases.
	And we just need to keep doing that.
	I think what we have to do is we have to keep this message alive.
	And I do think that once we get through the primaries, and we'll get through the primaries here okay, and I think we're going to see some historic victories, and some of these people that are On the trail there right now that are still still running, I do believe that some of these people won't quit.
	You know, people like DeSantis and Nikki Haley.
	Nikki Haley will, you know, just because of the type of person she is, she'll probably go all the way to the convention or whatever, but whatever.
	But we need to get behind who it is that can sort of overcome this problem that we have.
	And, you know, in this case, Donald J. Trump.
	So we get behind him.
	And, you know, he I know because I've spoken to him enough over the last couple of weeks and months.
	He has learned a lot.
	Now, there's a this is a big job to become president of the United States.
	And you can't just you know, you got to depend on all kinds of people and people will bitch and moan about You know, he's got this person around him or that person, and it'll be all that kind of stuff.
	I got that.
	And I understand that.
	I know he understands that.
	But we've got to we've got to rely on those people that are very brutally honest about the kinds of things that we are involved in and continue to message to him.
	I know he's listening.
	He's paying attention.
	And as we move from the primaries and we move toward the general, we move into the time frame of the conventions and then the dead sprint going into November, we have really, really got to strengthen our numbers and really get the message out about how to win.
	And we do have to win in key places.
	We don't have to necessarily win everywhere, but we've got to win.
	We've got to win in more places than I think we did in the past.
	And my big thing, and I've been all over this, is voter turnout.
	You know, our average is in 2022.
	In 2022, which is an off-year election, not a presidential election, the average turnout nationwide was around 40%.
	And that's highballing it, folks.
	We've got to go 60.
	In the 2020 election, which was the highest turnout at least in the last 50 years, was only 69%.
	We have got to get into the 75, 80 percentiles.
	That means that those that are out there hustling voters, and I just am livid with the Republican Party, because this is the Republican National Committee, the Republican executive chairs of every county, they have two responsibilities.
	That's to get people to register and then to get people to vote.
	And we have got to see voter turnout in the conservative side of the aisle to the tune of like 80 percent.
	We can overwhelm any trick that they have up their sleeve.
	And then once we get back into power, then we can start making really smart decisions about how to basically reshape the way the government, the federal government is operating and take some very serious actions about reforms.
	I mean, that's really what it's all about.
	Every organization needs to go through a reformation or a change.
	That doesn't mean that we change the Constitution.
	It just means that we lessen the authorities and powers of our federal government.
	If we don't, if we don't, we are doing a disservice By the way, let me just say this really quick and then I'll shut up because I know a bunch of people want to talk, but I totally agree with General Flynn.
	- By the way, let me just say this really quick and then I'll shut up and then a bunch of people want to talk, but I totally agree with your plan.
	I want to be a million percent clear.
	I did not bring up this Democrat coup, take over the military, block Trump thing to try to say that it's a shoe in and then we're going to win this.
	It just shows how strong we are.
	And if we do mobilize people to believe in voting, not because it doesn't have problems, but because brute force of massive landslide, every expert agrees, will overpower them, we can save this country.
	The enemies of this country are scared.
	And that's why somebody like General Flynn, what he just said five minutes ago.
	I know Trump listens.
	Roger talks to him every day.
	Now Flynn talks to him all the time, too.
	We have got to let him know to talk about the intelligence agencies, to talk about the hijacked government, because this is the criminals that have committed all these serious crimes against America and endangered the whole planet.
	They're desperate.
	And we need to understand the waters we're in.
	The average person around Trump, sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, is a lightweight.
	They're just a politico.
	They're not a guy that's, you know, run the military and been involved and knows how Because we're not used to having the CIA openly operating and other agencies against us.
	So this is big boy pants time, folks.
	This is the battle for the Republic, and as America goes, so goes the world.
	I cannot stress how incredible this is.
	And it is good news, though, that they're already running to stay behind networks in case Trump gets in.
	I'm not saying that means we've won the war, but we're winning the battles right now.
	Alex, this is Zachary, and we can't let up.
	Just because we think Iowa's going to go well, we can't let up.
	I want to remind everybody, just reset real quick, that we're doing the Great Depression Town Hall.
	It's Iowa Eve.
	We're talking about Iowa.
	We're talking about everything that we're facing.
	We're talking about what this great project is all about.
	I want to thank Real America's Voice for coordinating this entire thing.
	And actually, I wanted to pass it to Steve Ruber, who's my colleague over at Real America's Voice.
	He wanted to get in and had a couple of words that he wanted to share with us.
	Jack, thank you for that.
	And gentlemen, I want to talk about some of the things that you've all touched on.
	All super important.
	And I live in Michigan, and I know that we can win Michigan.
	Trump's up by eight points here, if you believe the polling, obviously, and polling suspect.
	But Roger Stone, I want to say, first of all, to you for praising Elon Musk.
	I tip my hat to you because that $44 billion saved freedom of speech for a lot of us out here, obviously, because we can have these conversations.
	Now, Alex is back after his lifetime ban.
	Congratulations, Alex, for that.
	Uh, Michael, I've got to tell you, Michael, uh, I've been saying this for a while now.
	I'd like you guys to weigh in on this and that is fight like a Democrat.
	Look in Michigan and in other places, they went and rechanged all, they changed all the rules.
	You know, that during the pandemic, I mean, they, they mass mail in ballots and you don't need to have an, uh, your signature doesn't have to match it.
	All this other nonsense.
	We all know it's garbage.
	They don't allow it anywhere in Europe and they want to force it upon us.
	But I say fight like a Democrat because.
	Come September, which remarkably in Michigan, I can start voting in September this year and the elections on November 5, of course, but I'm going to vote on the first day possible that's legal.
	I'm going to spend the next six weeks of my life getting every, you know, low propensity voter that believes like I do to get out there and vote.
	You can't rally from two or three or four million votes down on election day.
	You've got to be ready.
	And so you've got to get in there and get people in ahead of time.
	We've got to, we've got to bank votes.
	Right?
	We've got to bank votes and we can't sit there and guys, we hear this all the time.
	I don't trust the system.
	I don't trust the system.
	And maybe Alex will get you to weigh in on this because you're talking about it as well.
	If you don't trust the system and you don't vote, you've disqualified yourself.
	Well, I would just say this.
	I would just say this briefly.
	Look, you know, I'm not saying I'm the toughest guy around, but I grew up in Dallas.
	It was rough.
	People started fights.
	And if I weighed 170 pounds, the guy weighed 250 pounds.
	I just had to fight harder.
	And all the numbers show it.
	We have a landslide.
	as General Flynn said, they cannot overpower a 75% turnout.
	And so absolutely, and this is just, this is so incredibly historic and we've got to get everybody In fact, I'll knock on doors, not just do talk shows.
	We've got to go to our churches.
	We've got to speak.
	Everybody's got to know.
	Alex, I want to film a video of you going door to door in the election.
	I'll do it.
	Hello, man.
	Knock, knock.
	Boy, that scared the hell out of people.
	Yeah.
	Uh, I agree with you guys.
	I think 54% is the number we'll see out of Iowa tomorrow.
	I think that this whole election for Trump is wrapped up in two or three weeks max.
	And here in Michigan, that means that we can marshal our resources because look, Michigan, we have a, it's not just about Donald Trump getting back to the White House.
	It's picking up that Senate seat in Michigan and the Senate seat in Pennsylvania and Ohio and Arizona.
	We can change the whole dynamic, but we have to vote and we have to convince those people.
	And we all understand why they don't trust the system.
	Why would you, after what we've seen for the last several years, right?
	But we have to jump in and convince these people that you have to vote because otherwise... Well, yeah, they want you to give up.
	Right.
	They want us to give up, but I go back to only say this because There's two people I know, and Steve Bannon's really smart too, and Roger's awesome on politics, but when I talk to General Flynn or Jack Posobiec, they both know all the weird stuff I've studied, looked into as a layperson, but they've lived in the military.
	So it's a two-pronged deal.
	We've got to get turnout.
	We've got to be politically savvy.
	We've got to educate people.
	We've also got to understand we're up against major arms of the intelligence agencies, factions, but I think telling Americans they're up against a deep state coup They keep saying Trump's a coup, he's a dictator, he wants to use the military.
	Trump's done none of that.
	The left is what wants to use the military and take our guns.
	And I think if General Flynn talks to Trump, and if Roger talks to Trump, that Trump could turn this around against them.
	And you know what?
	And we all have to be talking.
	I mean, if you read this article and you go back to that Time magazine article back in February of 2021, and you pay any attention to what happened in 2017, particularly the Russiagate thing, which is the total, which is based on a lie that Hillary Clinton designed, I mean, we're in the middle of a coup.
	The coup has been ongoing, folks.
	And this is just another aspect of it.
	So we have to turn this entire story around on them.
	And frankly, the majority of the American people are going to listen to us than they are to these people who have been lying through their teeth to us and basically destroying this country intentionally.
	That's what build back better means.
	Build back better means destroy everything and then build it back in their image.
	So we have got to turn this entire message around and it's got to start with, you know, I do believe that Trump needs to be talking about this more often.
	It's not so much the military, it's them trying to change and subvert the military, but definitely it's the intelligence community.
	Oh yeah, who's in control of it?
	Our military is great.
	Exactly.
	Well, and in general, as you say, the fact that they are the ones conducting a coup is exactly why they switch it around, and the iron law of woke projection, we can never get away from it, because they are the ones who are going to launch a coup against The vote of the people.
	Again, I've heard all of you guys on this call tonight.
	I talk to you all regularly.
	I've never once heard anyone, even behind the scenes, even what they blame Roger, even Roger Stone, even Roger Stone, no one has ever said, hey, let's steal the election.
	Let's do fake votes.
	Let's do fake ballots.
	Let's tell people that they can't vote.
	Let's tell people that they can vote through Dropbox.
	All we've ever asked for is a fair fight.
	That's the only thing we've ever asked for.
	I've never heard anyone say anything other than that because this is what they're doing.
	They will call their side democracy and anything that we want to do is authoritarianism.
	But I did promise, by the way, that this would be a town hall.
	I see that we're coming up on the one hour mark and I want to be, I'd like to be respectful of the fact that we call this a town hall.
	So I want to see if I can get some, some folks up here, if that's all right with everyone, if we can, we can just take some, take some, take some questions at random.
	I see this.
	A gentleman here, let's see if I can get him up, Derelict Republic, says that he is a Philadelphia plumber.
	I don't know if that's... Revenant 1776, Philadelphia commercial plumber.
	Are you there?
	Yes, sir, I am here.
	Alright, is that real?
	You're a plumber in Philadelphia?
	Yes, sir, I am.
	Oh, that's great.
	Great to have you on.
	Where do you work?
	I used to work down on 16th Street.
	Well, I'm a commercial plumber in Philly.
	I mean, I work all over the city.
	So all over?
	Yeah.
	I'm actually surprised you brought me up, but Alex, Jack, love you guys.
	I honestly can't believe that I'm sitting here like General Flynn and the whole deal, but I just want to praise you guys because you guys, you're keeping the fight going.
	I'm so tired of this infighting.
	Like, all we see is, like, you know, this is the precipice of humanity.
	Like, this is the fight for humanity right now.
	2024, if we don't fucking, like, make some headway, we're fucked.
	Like, humanity's fucked.
	And You know, look, I'm not the best speaker there is.
	I'm not the most vocal person there is.
	You know, I've been following this game for a really long time.
	You guys are, you know, the people in this game.
	I just want to say thank you for bringing me up on here.
	I just, you know.
	Well, brother, I want to say I want to thank you, the American people.
	So please get this straight.
	We're just like each other.
	We're in this together.
	Yeah.
	And no, and I don't know, I don't want to put you on the spot there.
	But you know, and maybe you do, maybe you don't have a family.
	But, you know, you sound like a young, a young enough guy, probably young enough to be my son.
	But I have kids, I have grandchildren.
	And, you know, and I know what I've lived through.
	And I know the life that I was given as a kid growing up And in a large family, you know, really a lot of military background in my family.
	And, you know, I know what it's like to sacrifice.
	I know what it's like to stand up and serve our country.
	And, you know, now is the time that we're all going to have to serve again.
	And we do it.
	I do it, you know, because I love the country.
	But I also do it because I love my family and I love my children.
	And I love your ability to this last gentleman that just spoke to be able to have the life that you want to have, that you're trying to have for yourself and for your family.
	So, you know, God love you, and thank you for speaking up.
	Absolutely.
	I see a few great reporters there.
	I see Z Media, I also see Jamie White, whoever you want to go to.
	I wanted to get on Tammy McDonald here, who is coming on now.
	I don't know if everybody remembers Tammy.
	I do, because we tweeted about this back when it happened, but my family, my parents were swatted a couple of days before Christmas, and then again on Christmas Day, Tammy McDonald actually got swatted on the very same day as my parents, except the difference is, and as horrific as it was, that You know, she's not someone out there who's doing a show.
	She's not running her mouth on a network or anything like that.
	She's just a regular person who ended up getting targeted by these guys.
	Tammy, are you there?
	I am here.
	Can you hear me?
	I can hear you loud and clear.
	Hi!
	Yeah, you were talking about my swatting.
	It was on the 23rd of December.
	I live on a street that It's called the Festival of Lights in our little town and I was outside handing out candy canes to the kids going up to the Festival of Lights that night.
	Actually gave out like 800 candy canes that night.
	I'm so nervous.
	I'm sorry.
	But anyways, y'all had the... Wait, wait.
	I just want to throw that out there, folks.
	And Tammy, you had told me that story when we spoke offline the other day, but I was hoping you would say that again.
	What was Tammy McDonald, what was a MAGA mom doing when the left was swatting her?
	Oh, she was standing outside for the Christmas festival.
	Handing out 800 candy canes to the children as they walked by.
	That's the type of person who is in this movement.
	That's the type of person that is making this country run on a day-to-day basis.
	And, of course, you're the type of person they target because you represent a massive problem.
	They say that, you know, Jones and Stone and Posobiec and Flynn are the threats.
	No, no, no.
	It's the Tammy McDonalds all over this country that are the biggest threat to this crooked regime.
	You're exactly right, Jack.
	I mean, you cannot understand.
	I have 23,000 followers on Twitter.
	I mean, and I've just gotten those since, like, you have recognized me and captured and recognized me.
	And here I am just standing out there.
	I'm, you know, I'm just an everyday American woman who loves my country and loves my president.
	And I'm standing out there giving candy, candy canes that I bought with my own money.
	And I was swatted by the police.
	I had seven or eight cop cars that were like, you know, I could see them personally, or they were designed cop cars.
	And then two or three Marked cop cars pull up in front of my house and swap me for just because I get on Twitter and I say that I love my country and I love my president.
	And that's how we're being treated.
	Well, Tammy, it's just like when we saw this in the FBI after parents protesting critical race theory and transgenderism of their kids.
	They're scared of you.
	As Jack said, they're scared of real people.
	Yeah.
	It's just, it's unbelievable.
	I thank you so much for recognizing me, Jack, and I thank you so much for taking the time to call me week before last.
	And I just, I do have a question.
	I know that you guys know a lot of these people, but I wonder what y'all's thoughts are of people that who we follow who are, uh, ...who have been on Trump's coattails since 2015 and are now kind of turning on him.
	It's really upsetting for me to see all of that.
	Well, they're a bunch of cowards.
	They're a bunch of—so they don't matter.
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	They don't.
	They don't.
	And you know what?
	And you know what?
	And that happens.
	I saw that in my own life there, Tammy.
	And believe me, I had a lot of people that I thought We're going to be in my camp and boy, when you find out, when the shit hits the fan, you know, that you're going to find out who's going to stand with you shoulder to shoulder and stand up against this, frankly, this monster, you know, that we are facing.
	And, but it's a, this is a winnable battle.
	This is a winnable war.
	We can defeat these, we can defeat this animal.
	And believe me, it's people like you that they're afraid of.
	There's a lot of you out there.
	There's a lot more of you out there than you even know.
	And we just got to make sure that we keep getting the message out and keep encouraging people like you to just keep Standing up for the things that you believe in, so keep doing what you're doing.
	Amen.
	Amen, Tammy.
	I wanted to get, just to kind of reset again real quick, just to remind everybody that we want to thank Real America's Voice for being here and setting this up for us.
	We've got Alex Jones, General Michael Flynn, who I served under when I was in the DIA operation at Guantanamo Bay, back when I was a little E-5, and he was the general at the office at the top of the building there.
	We've got Roger Stone.
	Steve Gruber from Real America's Voices here.
	I want to bring on Nikki, if I could, very quickly here.
	The PsyOps Rabbit.
	I love these town halls.
	I love everybody's names.
	Nikki, how are you doing tonight?
	I'm doing great, and thanks for bringing me up.
	What part of the country are you calling from?
	I'm in Ohio.
	Ohio, alright.
	So, thanks for bringing me up, and to be on stage with you, it's cool, it's awesome.
	I heard the microphone go, and I'm like, what?
	My question is about, um, I'll give you an example.
	So I'm in Ohio in the last Senate race.
	I was keeping an eye on the PA in Ohio races and, you know, on my phone, just watching as the counts come in.
	And I noticed that the votes were being basically like redistributed in PA.
	So my question's kind of around that black box voting fraction magic thing, because when you guys say, um, you know, people need to come out in numbers.
	I, I have a feeling part of that is to overcome that fraction magic mystery of how they are able to redistribute and people don't understand that.
	So basically like when you watch these, I took so many screenshots and I called the election board.
	I asked, I said, I asked them, I said, if you have votes being counted, are, are there any circumstances where those votes should come off and go to another candidate?
	And they said, no.
	And I said, well, I have, you know, I don't know how many screenshots of that actually happening.
	So within seconds, you know, they would use the independent, you know, cause this is a Senate race, so it's a little bit different, but they would use the independent to kind of cushion.
	So.
	You know, one would stay at like, um, like when you watch the counts over an hour, the percentages between, um, the candidates were so thin, like, I mean, like two point something percent.
	And then the, the, uh, independent was like a three point something percent.
	They wouldn't waver over the whole hour.
	You listen to those numbers and you listen to those numbers.
	You just said you're, you're talking about these are, these are small Percentages in the overall and I know Alex you talked to this as well, but it's not a lot What I always talk about is the margin of fraud And as a guy from Pennsylvania, you just said you were looking at Pennsylvania, you know, last cycle with the Os race, which gave us, you know, Fetterman.
	By the way, Fetterman is running a complete psyop.
	I hope everyone knows that right now.
	This whole John Fetterman is becoming some, you know, he bonked his head and all of a sudden he's a Republican.
	No, no.
	What he's doing is he's, it's basic election year pandering where he's going to say some things that act like they make sense.
	They seem like they make sense.
	He's going to talk about the border.
	He's going to talk about illegals.
	He's going to stand up for Israel, et cetera, et cetera.
	And then all of a sudden, he's going to endorse Joe Biden, and he's going to lead Biden around the state.
	That's exactly what he's doing.
	So give it back to the middle, right?
	Push it back.
	Oh, what's up, Flex?
	And so what I mean to say is, though, when we're talking about the margin of fraud, and I don't want to give out, get away from your question, but when I talk about the margin of fraud, again, we're talking about very small amounts.
	Alex, do you want to speak on that?
	You can't steal landslides.
	So we have to overpower them.
	So really quick, because I know you want to bring up other people.
	The name Psyops and Rabbit Holes came up when I had a short in it, Psyops Rabbit.
	Basically, last year at the end of January, we had so many news stories coming out with Paul Pelosi, spy balloons, like all this shit was being dumped on people left and right.
	And I came on Twitter and I was relatively new.
	I hadn't done spaces at all.
	Um, so much.
	And I came on Twitter and I'm like, look at all these stories.
	I'm like, what are they hiding from us?
	So my whole thing was during, I ended up holding a space for about six days and just, I met a lot of great people and, you know, cycled things around and we talked about things, but I'm like, we can't talk about COVID.
	We can't talk about anything that's mainstream in the news.
	Our job was to find out what the PSYOPs were and dig the rabbit holes to find out what they were hiding.
	So that's, that's where that came from.
	Well, and that's important because I mean, when you watch news cycles, like even coming in here, um, I took a break a little bit and when I came back in, I noticed like there's, they're, they're fracturing within our party.
	So within their party, they're causing all these different fractures and all these different things.
	So they're separating and people are, are hyper focusing on really small things.
	And then they're fracturing and then these people are arguing and then these people are blocking.
	Like we haven't had this a year or a bit, like a little over a year and people can't help but argue and fight.
	And I'm like, we have to come together and figure out what our commonalities are and not our differences because we're going to win the primary soon.
	And then we move into the real battle.
	Well, thanks guys.
	I appreciate the time.
	Couldn't agree more.
	And Spaces is just an amazing place.
	Thank you, Nikki, the PsyOps rabbit, for being able to hold these just massive wide form communications, but it's interactive.
	And that's what's incredible.
	Used to have to be Alex Jones and running the show down there to be able to get callers in like that.
	I did see that we have Malcolm Flex trying to get in.
	And Flex, so you were actually there in Iowa.
	You've been kind of in the middle of some of these controversies, e-dramas that have been going on since been out there.
	So tell us, if I understand correctly, you've left Iowa now.
	You're back home, but tell us what it was like being there.
	What was the energy like?
	What we're hearing on the ground?
	All right.
	First of all, again, good evening, gentlemen.
	Again, you guys are doing an amazing service to everybody.
	Um, you know, honestly, just being able to stand and stand, um, you know, toe to toe sort of, um, in the snow, I guess you could say with a lot of the action there, the people of Iowa are extremely receptive.
	One of the things that I've noticed, and this is pretty much one of the things that kind of got the Veveka meteoric spike out there, is that when you look at what's being done, none of the other campaigns are really trying that hard to reach people.
	It just seems like these people are extremely receptive.
	They want somebody to come out there to them.
	Now, by virtue of just how the landscape is, I think we all can say that's the foregone conclusion.
	Trump is inevitable.
	Now that being said though, what Iowa has shown us, especially just given, and I know one of you guys actually stated that, you know, Trump last time only won Iowa by a few points.
	It seems that people are starting to feel the effects.
	And, you know, one of the main things that, you know, the Democrats love to push forth is to tell people, you can't believe you're lying, guys.
	You know, don't believe this.
	Everybody's doing well.
	The economy is great.
	But when you hear the hurt and, you know, just a lot of stories and, you know, a lot of tribulations that some of these people tell, you know, it is it's it's harrowing how they've even made it this far.
	So I think that Trump's got a massive opportunity to carry Iowa.
	Now, one of the major issues, however, is the fact that you have Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis sort of lurking.
	Now, I think Ron DeSantis, he was a golden boy back then.
	And, you know, I haven't seen much of the campaign.
	To be fair, I have not seen a single sign for Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley.
	I think Iowa's pretty much the gem that they can't break in.
	And if you remember the messaging early on, it was at first that Ron DeSantis was saying, no, we're going to win Iowa.
	Then it sort of pivoted to, no, we want to remain competitive in Iowa.
	And now at this point, now that Nikki Haley has made some inroads, and I think a lot of the donors that really have sent cash in to Ron DeSantis' campaign are kind of seeing that, hey, this guy has, like, no presence.
	Or, you know, you put him on stage with the other candidates, and he's pretty much kind of toe-to-toe with Chris Christie as far as, you know, presence.
	I think that they're starting to get buyer's remorse and push their money to Haley.
	So where Vivek comes in is that I think he's a useful cudgel to at least Create some insulation between Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley, because at some point, you're going to have to deal with the Never Trump faction to essentially pick—sorry about Got a call, um, to essentially pick one of the two to throw their congealed funding behind.
	And that's not what you want because they've already spent, I think, what was it like, uh, 68 million on Nikki Haley and about 59 million around the census.
	The returns have been middling.
	So Vivek is eating up a lot of support just by virtue of being out there and being visible.
	But when Trump comes out there, it's.
	Man, it's like going to a rock concert once again.
	So I think that our operative goal, and this is just sort of my speculation here, I think our ideal should be to create, you know, take out at least one or two of the establishment choices, mainly not because, you know, Ron DeSantis may want to be that, but because again, he's beholden to his donors and Nikki Haley, she'll do whatever you tell her, as long as you say, Hey, there's some MIC stonks waiting for you on the other end of it.
	So I mean, that's just the way I see it.
	But now the question I have for you guys is that is there a way, given the fact that, you know, a lot of infighting, a lot of egos and personalities and people who pretty much want to be next to the king, so to speak, have kind of risen out of the crowd and are now attacking, you know, people who might be tacitly, you know, kind of supporting what Vivek says on its face.
	Is there a possibility that we screw this up?
	To where people are, you know, people are kind of split even further or because I recognize Alex Jones said, again, we're going to need a massive coalition to pretty much brute force things.
	And Big Tenth approach, as we've seen, already has an expiration date.
	So are we looking at, you know, a big margin to screw this up to sort of, you know, amongst the influencer class and on the ground?
	I mean, I think Roger Stone's probably the expert to answer that.
	Yeah, I would actually defer.
	Roger, are you, I don't know if, I know he's muted, but Roger, are you still there?
	Because I'd love to get your sense of how some of these things will shake up.
	Vivek, this movement that he's put together, but then also on the other question about whether or not Haley continues and DeSantis' support switches to her.
	Roger may have stepped away, just FYI.
	Um, but I do think, you know, I do think that well, I'm with you.
	I'm with you.
	My mic had switched off.
	I apologize.
	So I, it's very important to analyze this data and here's what you learn.
	Uh, the DeSantis voter outside of New Hampshire, uh, their second choice is overwhelmingly Donald Trump.
	That's because DeSantis has presented himself, uh, as an America first candidate.
	Now I don't think that's what he really is.
	But that's how he has tried to kind of formulate his image.
	We know at the same time that Chris Christie, who, while he wasn't getting many votes nationally, had gotten as high as 12 percent in New Hampshire.
	Those votes go almost completely en masse to Nikki Haley.
	What you don't want is the kind of situation we had in 1980 where Reagan already had enough votes to be nominated, but because Bush still had money in the bank because he had very wealthy globalist donors, he stayed in the contest long past the point that he had any prospect of victory, which he stayed in the contest long past the point that he had any prospect of victory, which
	Bush was spending money in late primaries when Reagan was out of money and won some last-minute pyrrhic but insignificant victories in terms of the nomination.
	We need this to be over quickly.
	The fast collapse of DeSantis aids Trump.
	The collapse ultimately of Vivek, although I think it's a smaller number of votes, also those votes moved to Trump.
	Nikki Haley will stay in as long as she has cash in the bank, although I frankly think you end her prospects in South Carolina, where Henry McMaster, the governor of South Carolina, is one of the original Trump supporters. is one of the original Trump supporters.
	He is no fan of his.
	He was Lieutenant Governor under Nikki Haley.
	Nikki Haley is going to get crushed in her home state, and I think that will finally be the end of her candidacy.
	But she won't fold her tent after even if she gets beat in New Hampshire, she will try to hang on and pull out a victory in her home state, which I think will not happen.
	The sooner that the Republicans can coalesce, Around Trump the better, but let's also recognize, and I say this as a former young Republican National Chairman and someone with a deep sentimental attachment to the Republican Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower and Nixon and Reagan and Trump, This is not about party.
	This is about the insiders and the outsiders.
	Someone spoke early about those who rode on Trump's coattails.
	This was one of the one of the misimpressions.
	Party means nothing.
	You're either part of the uniparty establishment.
	You might be wearing a Republican jersey, but that doesn't mean you're loyal to Donald Trump.
	So, let's recognize that we have to build a broader coalition that gets beyond the Republican Party.
	That's the whole point of Donald Trump.
	Trump, unlike Mitt Romney, unlike John McCain, there are voters out there who are Trump voters.
	They're not Republicans.
	By the way, Roger, let me just throw something in to get your take on this.
	Go ahead.
	I agree.
	Trump should run against the Republican Party establishment and the Democrats.
	Which he really is.
	That's why they hate him as the populist.
	He should be nonpartisan, especially in the general election, and flamethrow the whole thing, call them all out.
	I think that's what's unstoppable.
	That's why he's so powerful.
	The indictments show he's the outsider.
	He needs to really lean into that.
	I could not agree more.
	You're absolutely right.
	He runs against the permanent political establishment in Washington.
	And what Jack said is absolutely true.
	Watch the messaging.
	Notice how they're the ones trying to destroy democracy, but they claim that we are the threat to democracy.
	They're the ones who are weaponizing the justice system, trying to lock up their chief political opponent.
	But we're the ones who are going to abuse the Justice Department if Trump is elected.
	And let me lead to this, and then I'm going to mute this, and I might come back.
	I'll stay here for an hour, but I'm going to listen.
	I got to turn this off, or I'll keep commenting.
	Roger, we've gotten General Flynn's expertise.
	We've gotten Jack's expertise.
	There's a lot of other great people and journalists there that I want to go to, you know, like Churchill and all of them that I see right there.
	A lot of amazing people.
	Maria Z. You know, so many others that I know and those I don't know.
	But Roger, they're full on Trump's a dictator, but then they're trying to set up the totalitarian system to take over the military with a bill?
	Headed up by Blumenthal ahead of time saying he's going to stop Black Lives Matter.
	They just telegraphed their whole plan.
	I think even before he wins the election to try to trigger something this summer, much worse than 2020.
	What do you say?
	I think that's entirely possible.
	Look, everybody on this call understands an act of Congress cannot undo the Constitution.
	We have a constitutional system where the president is the commander-in-chief.
	They can pass a bill all they want.
	Such a bill would be unconstitutional.
	Such an act would be treasonous.
	And, of course, they go to Dick Blumenthal, the great Vietnam War hero.
	Who lied about his service to his country to lead this particular thing.
	They are very adept at grabbing the narrative.
	Everything they accuse us is of exactly what they themselves are doing.
	We can never forget that and we have to turn that around on them.
	You see, Trump has been very effective about this.
	He keeps pointing out it's Joe Biden who is a threat to democracy.
	It's Joe Biden who's a threat to our democratic freedoms.
	No, I agree.
	He's a clutch guy.
	Let me ask you this then.
	Why not go ahead and get ahead of this and say they're gonna remove Joe Biden ahead or during the DNC in July?
	with Fox, even with Brett Baier, who's a wise-ass, I thought Trump was in the greatest form he's ever been.
	Now, he's a clutch guy.
	Let me ask you this, then.
	Why not go ahead and get ahead of this and say they're going to remove Joe Biden ahead or during the DNC in July?
	Why not start going after Newsom and Big Mike now?
	Trump has already begun saying that he, unfortunately, he thinks he's not going to be running against Biden.
	That's a major shift.
	Obviously, he'd prefer to run against Biden.
	And then one of the classic moves of all time, Trump announcing that he's already decided on his vice president.
	He's just not going to tell us who it is.
	That is classic Trump, grabbing the narrative, controlling narrative.
	If he's selected a vice president, maybe he has.
	I don't know.
	He's told me.
	But my guess is that is just Trump showmanship.
	He knows he doesn't have to make that decision until July.
	And if he has decided who that is, trust me, he's shared it with no one.
	No one.
	That will be a crucial decision, by the way, because this is maybe the only election where it is essential that he selects someone who brings something we don't already have.
	There's a lot of great people been mentioned who I like, who I think are great leaders, great conservatives, great Republicans, but they only get you votes that we already have.
	Or someone they're even more afraid of than Trump.
	Who would that be?
	Well, I think that remains to be seen.
	I'd like to see some creativity.
	In other words, I like, personally, just speaking for myself, I like the idea of a Donald Trump-Telsey Gabbard ticket.
	Telsey Gabbard, an Iraq combat veteran, a Major General in the U.S.
	Army Reserve, A championship surfer, a former UFC fighter, a former member of Congress, a former Democrat, now an independent, someone who crushed Kamala Harris in the debates now.
	It would be incumbent on Tulsi to become a Republican.
	That's actually legally required in about 30 states.
	On the surface, I love that.
	Well, real fact, I hate to be direct.
	I mean, Jack, you jump in, but what does Jack, what does General Flynn think of a Tulsi Gabbard?
	Well, I do know that Tulsi Gabbard at one point, for those who remember, and General Flynn obviously was on the transition team, so I'm sure he knows this, at one point was in the consideration, because she was a congresswoman at the time, for the UN ambassador for Trump in his first term.
	I supported that wholeheartedly.
	And as we know, of course, eventually that role went to none other than Nikki Haley went to Birdbrain.
	And so I think that Tulsi should have been given that the first time around.
	I'd love to see her involved.
	I don't know.
	I haven't thought about her on the ticket, though.
	I can certainly see the appeal for a number of reasons, though I do wonder if her stance is on some of the progressive issues, some of the social issues might be crosswise a little bit.
	There's pros and cons, but I think she would certainly be outside of the box and generate a lot of discussion, that's for sure.
	I'm trying to think outside the box.
	I have to admit to you, I, for example, don't know where she stands on the issue of abortion.
	I'm completely unfamiliar.
	Come over towards us, but she's been pro-abortion.
	Roger, who else would be good?
	It gets tough after that.
	I mean, look, there's a lot of good people being mentioned.
	I want to point out that I speak only for myself.
	I'm not speaking for anybody but myself.
	But we need somebody who appeals to Millennials.
	We need somebody who appeals to Hispanic voters.
	We need somebody who can appeal to African American people.
	But we also need people, we need someone who understands the evil of the war machine and the deep state.
	She qualifies and that is the single most important quality.
	I would throw out, this is the one and I've been saying it since 2022 and it recently kind of resurfaced a little bit this week.
	General Flynn!
	General Flynn!
	No, we are.
	That's our Secretary of Defense, Alex, we're talking about.
	No, I was going to say, I've actually thrown out Rand Paul's name for many of the reasons mentioned that now you get you get Ron Paul's kind of in the mix and a lot of his ideas, which certainly in his movement, which certainly a lot of that, I think, infused the MAGA movement in 2016 and continues to infuse the MAGA movement.
	But really, a lot of those ideas of being someone who's not beholden to the military industrial complex, someone who does understand The importance of the national security state.
	And I've not discussed this with any of his, you know, staff or anything.
	And I've talked to him, had him on the show a number of times.
	I think he'd be an outside of the box choice.
	I really do.
	What does General Flynn think?
	Well, number one, in terms of Tulsi Gabbard, I know her.
	I got to know her.
	I haven't talked to her in a long time.
	I knew her fairly well when I did know her.
	And she's a major, not a major general in the reserves.
	I am not a fan.
	And I think if people like what we're learning about Ramaswamy, anybody that digs deep into him, if you dig deep into Tulsi, you'll find that she's not the type of person that you'd want in a vice presidency.
	Especially right now.
	You know what?
	I think it's way, way too early to speculate.
	I mean, we can speculate all night here.
	I made a statement the other day about Ben Carson.
	I thought Ben Carson, but I think it's just way too early to speculate.
	I think another time we do another one of these, we can talk about the conventions because the conventions have a whole other personality of what can take place.
	I mean, if people forget the 2016 convention for the Republican one, even though Trump was the clear hands down, winner of the primaries, Ted Cruz, still went to the convention thinking he was going to pull off an upset.
	So don't think that this thing is over.
	Remember, vote your conscience.
	Remember, vote your conscience is what Cruz said.
	And the crowd almost rose up and tore him off the stage.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think it's too early to speculate.
	I do think that Trump needs to be thinking about 12 years and not just four years.
	But he also has to have somebody who is going to to that he can turn to and understands what is happening and understands our government and understands, you know, what is going on around the world and, of course, domestically, and will be not only loyal to him, but also loyal to this country, unlike the and will be not only loyal to him, but also loyal to this country, unlike the And I'll leave it at that.
	Well, you're here on that.
	I did see that we have Z Media who came in, and Alex, you had just shouted her out, so I'd love to get you on.
	Great.
	Thank you so much, Jack.
	And thank you for holding this space.
	It's so, so vital.
	The whole world is watching American politics this year.
	And let me tell you, from an international perspective, I can, I mean, I can tell you how important it is, even for Australians.
	You guys have always been, and in my humble opinion, are still the leaders of the Western world, the free Western world.
	I think that it's interesting.
	I watched you know, the view saying recently that Trump is going to put everyone in camps.
	These people are always projecting what, you know, what they actually want to do onto the other side.
	Well, in Australia, you guys actually had COVID camps, didn't you?
	We absolutely did.
	We had people being put into camps who were not sick, who were just simply not complying.
	We had the military going and taking Aboriginal communities against their will into camps.
	They escaped.
	Their manhunt was televised on national TV.
	I mean, it was absolute insanity.
	And so when I think of President Trump, I highly doubt that he'd be doing anything like the insane totalitarian measures we experienced here in Australia.
	But, you know, spending some time recently in the US, I was there traveling late last year in August and I went to the Reawaken America tour.
	I spent some time with General Flynn, who's a wonderful man.
	Some time with the InfoWars crew.
	But most importantly, I spent time with the patriots that were there for the Reawaken America tour, who genuinely love their country and I think are some of the most uncompromising people I've met in my life.
	And I want to tell you that internationally, this is how we view the American people.
	Someone was talking before, two people.
	We're talking about how there's division and, you know, these are tactics that are deployed by these globalists who don't want President Trump to win.
	That is undeniable.
	The attacks on him are ridiculous.
	I saw, Jack, what you posted this morning.
	Fanny Willis saying that, you know, basically because she's black, she's allowed to make mistakes.
	I mean, your skin colour has nothing to do with your, it's not an excuse for your actions.
	The quality of your character is more important.
	And I think that when I witness what's happening in America and I see that people are realising we don't want these race wars, we don't want this madness anymore.
	I've been speaking to normies here in Australia who are, even they're saying, We think Trump's going to be the guy.
	They're realising that all of these tactics that have been deployed by the media, by the Democratic Party, are actually harming the country.
	I just really want to encourage the American people and the patriots there that what you do and the front, the unified front that you show the world right now is encouraging all of us Because we recognise how important this election is and they desperately don't want it to go ahead.
	I just want to say, on the camps quickly, Kathy Hochul fought for these quarantine camps to continue in New York and even though Bobby Ann Cox defeated it initially, Kathy Hochul appealed it and so now they're going to the last stage to finally remove these quarantine camps.
	Why is a Governor Fighting so hard after COVID.
	COVID's done.
	Fighting so hard to keep these camps going.
	It is madness.
	The same Hogle that went and signed into law liquefying human corpses for compost.
	I mean, these people are maniacs.
	And so the person that you need to lead your country is someone who understands how insane these people are.
	And from what I can see, President Trump is the only one that has consistently called out the deep state, consistently called out the cabal.
	That's right, Maria.
	And just to throw this in, what you say is so important.
	America has shot up and has a lot of problems, but we're the best house in the bad neighborhood.
	And this is a global WF that General Flynn talks about so much, a WF, new world order attack.
	And that's why, whether you're in Europe or whether you're in Africa or whether you're in the Pacific Ocean where you're at, we are all in this together.
	And so people have to realize what happens to Australia or happens to Canadian truckers, you know, what happens to people all over the world.
	It is the same globalist enemy, and I think that's their real weakness.
	In fact, they admit it.
	The fact that we're identifying this New World Order, WF, BlackRock combine is why we're winning.
	And Trump's already doing a good job at this, but if he completely comes out and says, I'm going to restore the American Republic under America.
	I'm going to pull us out of the New World Order.
	I'm going to pull us out of the UN.
	That's what people are looking for.
	I agree with you, Alex, and if I can add there, you know, he's the only one that I've heard.
	There are two bills at the moment in the United States, I've reported on them extensively, that are aiming to exit, one in the House and one in the Senate, aiming to exit the UN and the WHO completely.
	President Trump has said if he's elected he will exit the World Health Organization.
	I want to tell you recently I spoke to a former Australian politician who's a good man and I said I want to exit the WHO and I want to lead this movement in Australia it's happening worldwide we need it everywhere and he said it's not going to happen until America does it first and so whilst I don't accept that I'm going to push for it but I understand that sentiment that The whole Western world will follow what America does.
	Look, it was the globalist hijacked America created the UN.
	It was born here.
	It's got to die here.
	And maybe Jack or General Flynn or any of you guys can comment on this, but we need a Brexit.
	But the average American doesn't know we're in the new world order.
	They're starting to learn it.
	If Trump makes it about bringing what he's doing, Because that's the reality.
	America's going to say, no, I don't want to be under China's control or BlackRock's control.
	And remember, they're rolling it out tomorrow, Alex.
	That's when the World Economic Forum's meeting in Davos.
	They've already said Klaus Schwab is going out there.
	He's been doing this hit down with Zelensky.
	They've already said they're already discussing the next bioweapon pandemic, whatever you want to call it.
	They're saying we must be prepared.
	They're calling it disease X. And then in Geneva, Myself and Norbin Laden, who's come on and we've done reporting, we're talking about this treaty, a global pandemic treaty, which you absolutely not can be part of, because what that will do is, as you're saying, Zee, is it gives our sovereignty over our own medical state to a globalist controlled entity at the WHO.
	Well, that's right.
	What does the WF say their two top agendas are?
	Censoring speech.
	And setting up the UN over our healthcare.
	This is a coup.
	And I think if we just spell that out, we win.
	Look, Jack, you're absolutely right.
	The initial meetings that the World Health Assembly held, I've been reporting on this extensively for the past two years.
	Dr. Tess Laurie, who is a phenomenal doctor, pro-freedom, pro-actual health, not one health, which is a ridiculous term that you would apply the same approach to every single person through their global health certification network, which, by the way, the WHO is ready to go ahead with.
	You know, every single person has to continuously be injected to their eyeballs in order to participate in society.
	They are ready for this system.
	And Dr. Tess Laurie was in that initial meeting of February 2022, where they said in future they will have forced vaccinations and punishments for any country that does not comply.
	In the initial publication of the International Health Regulations amendments, the WHO said that all future pandemic considerations will be made without the respect for human rights, fundamental freedoms and dignity.
	Dignity.
	They will not consider your dignity.
	Now, they've since pulled back on this, but who in their right mind, what kind of a maniac would publish that in the first place?
	And so we're seeing a lot of pushback from countries.
	No one wants this stuff.
	Again, back on, you know, this is about we were talking about President Trump.
	He said, if I'm elected, I'll pull the US out of the World Health Organization.
	I would tell people don't wait until then, because the finalisation of the international health regulations is happening in May.
	And then every country is kind of locked in.
	So support the two bills.
	I'll put them up on right after we're done with this space.
	I'll put them up on my ex page, the two bills that you can support.
	No, you're right.
	Trump's moving in the right direction.
	Trump's moving in the right direction, but here's what General Flynn said earlier.
	We've got to have more of these war games.
	Alex, Trump has hinted that he's going to hold the pharmaceutical companies accountable.
	I think he needs to be a lot more open, as you're suggesting.
	Absolutely.
	No, you're right.
	Trump's moving in the right direction.
	That'll break the system.
	Trump's moving in the right direction.
	But here's what General Flynn said earlier.
	We've got to have more of these war games.
	This is really important.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, guys.
	Well, let me just jump in.
	Let me jump in because I know we're trying to, you know, we come out here to talk about Iowa and, but all this matters.
	All of these things are connected.
	And I, and, and we have got to understand that until we get, you know, sane, some, some sanity back in charge of our constitution here, our constitutional Republic, We know all these bills, all these things, because there's a couple of bills on the table right now.
	Jack mentioned this disease X thing.
	I mean, there's a couple of things that are in play that they will go nowhere right now.
	I mean, if you really want to understand where we're at, because what's their playbook, you know, all you got to do is go back and study the Bolshevik revolution of the 1920s.
	I mean, they are replaying this 100 years later.
	So we can call these people, you know, maniacs, lunatics, psychopaths, you know, and I've done all that.
	Because to a degree, I have, you know, spent time fighting some of these people, literally, in overseas battlefields.
	But now we're looking at a different field.
	We're looking at a different type of war.
	You know, I've written a damn book on it, Fifth Generation Warfare.
	And they hold levers of power.
	And until we get back into those levers of power and possess those, we have got to speak up.
	We've got to stand our ground.
	And so I agree with what you're saying, that we've got to raise our voices and make sure that we get some people behind us, but the god dang speaker of our own house, who's a Republican, who we got rid of the last bomb and we get a new bomb and Speaker Johnson, I don't care what people think of him, the first thing he did was he gave millions, billions of dollars to Ukraine to protect their damn border.
	You can look at him, he's an operative.
	So, yes, this is the World Economic Forum.
	Yes, this is a globalist takeover of the world.
	All of these organizations, most people that even on this space don't know, you know, the World Health Organization, World Trade, World Bank, the IMF, the UN, the EU, none of these people are elected by their constituents.
	These are all appointed positions.
	These are all private organizations, for Christ's sakes.
	So, what matters is we have to win.
	We have to get people out.
	And I mean this.
	I mean, this is back to the basics.
	We have got to overwhelm the system.
	When we overwhelm the system in the primaries, Trump will have much more sort of referent authority to be able to speak out against all of these things.
	Believe me, we put in front of him, not too long ago, the whole thing about the World Economic Forum and their plan and their direction that they were taking.
	He fully understands this and he knows what he's up against and he knows what he's got to do.
	Come, I think March 6, which is when it'll all be said and done, it doesn't mean that somebody like General, can I stop you please?
	No, I want to hear your expertise on this.
	I agree with you.
	matter.
	We're going to go into a dead sprint toward November.
	And again, I say out one side of my mouth whether or not we're going to have it, because I just don't believe that these people want to leave power.
	General, can I stop you, please?
	No, I want to hear your expertise on this.
	I agree with you just because they're panicking with a plan B to remove the military control from him, which is crazy.
	I agree.
	We should be working with you and Roger and Jack and all these people right now.
	How can they grab victory from the jaws of defeat?
	Because you know they're going to try it.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, there's a lot of things that are, there's a lot in play that is going to occur over the next couple of months here, never mind the end of the primaries and going into the summertime of, you know, the conventions.
	I mean, Klaus Schwab stood up, I think two months ago and said, you know, we have to prepare for a global, I think he said in his words, global cyber event.
	And I mean, these people are serious when they say these things.
	You know, this new disease X thing that we're hearing them talk about planning for.
	And we haven't even touched on the economic shift that we are going to go through with this new global alliance, what we call the BRICS Plus.
	And the BRICS Plus is now plus 20 other nations that represent about 75% of the global population.
	So whenever you hear this administration or the Yardbird and Tony Blinken, the Secretary of State, talking about the alliance is strong, the alliance of partners that we brought together against Russia is strong.
	That's total bullshit.
	It's total bullshit.
	When Trump came in, they told everybody for decades, business isn't open here.
	Trillions and trillions and trillions flooded back.
	We turned on like a house that has electricity turned off, turning back on.
	So the globalists on one hand are selling us out to foreign powers, trying to stop the BRICS, but they engage in every policy to push the BRICS.
	So it looks to me like they are the Russian Chinese agents, Chinese agents mainly.
	I mean, because clearly, They claim Trump's a Russian agent.
	Trump strengthened the dollar, strengthened our businesses, made us the biggest energy exporter overnight, and this is all policy.
	While we still have the power, we can keep this reserve currency position, and clearly Trump's the answer.
	Why would the establishment want to destroy the American power they control?
	Yeah, because it actually, in a funny way, it gives them more power.
	So it's not about destroying what we have.
	It's about destroying the system that we have.
	What they want is they want access to the resources that this country has.
	And this country has an abundance of resources for many, many years.
	You know, what we hear from the left... So astute.
	They want to collapse us down to third world status.
	Exactly.
	And also, you know, don't discount their plans for some of these military age males that they're bringing into this country.
	But that, you know, one of the things that I'd like to just bring out is that, you know, they will beat up Trump for Russia and they'll talk about Russia as the boogeyman because they got to have a boogeyman.
	But who they're kowtowing to are the Chinese and the Chinese and Russia are hand in glove.
	So don't don't think for a second that we're not being.
	I mean, we are being so played and we're being played by people like Obama.
	We're being not by people like Biden.
	Biden is a complete puppet.
	But but but the Obama.
	Remember all the times Obama would walk around at press conferences?
	Or get off Air Force One with that book about the end of American power.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, so I want people to understand that there is a much, much bigger play in, in, uh, in place here.
	And these are not, these are not dumb people either.
	And they, and they do have a plan and they are well organized because they're not all that big.
	Then there's not a lot of them.
	The globalist elite, as we call them, you know, there's a, they're, they are organized and they, they're organizing function is around the world economic forum.
	Although there's people above the World Economic Forum.
	But that's how they organize themselves.
	What we are going to have to do in America, and they fear, they fear, you know, that woman who was on earlier, the mom there, who was out selling candy canes.
	That's what they fear.
	And there's millions and millions of us.
	Well General, let me ask you this.
	I got you here, I can't help it.
	You're such a wealth of knowledge.
	I want to ask Jack, he's super smart, and of course Roger and everybody else, he gets to the other people.
	Talking to the intelligence agencies and the people in the government, I'm not saying they're all bad.
	A lot of them are good men and women.
	Can't they see America's being destroyed right now?
	What is your message to people on the fence, the whistleblowers and other people?
	I mean, how critical are whistleblowers right now against this deep state?
	They're hugely critical.
	In fact, what we need is we need more whistleblowers.
	And frankly, you know, in a lot of ways, especially with this latest letter by these current and veterans that wrote this letter, this letter to the military.
	You know, we need more people to resign from government.
	We I mean, I was in touch with a very, very senior person, former former, you know, Homeland Security in the last 48 hours, and really pushing to get people down in the leadership roles in places like ICE, and CBP, and HSI, and some of these others, to resign.
	I mean, these people should quit.
	I mean, you can't stand there or sit there in a position where you've taken an oath of office and sit in the government and say, everything is fine.
	I actually think that these people need to resign.
	They need to resign.
	There's plenty of things to do.
	And believe me, the American people would And by the way, you've already done this.
	So some of these people, I know they got families and I know they got all kinds of issues in their lives, but now is a time to where we really do have to stand up and basically do the right thing. - And by the way, you've already done this.
	You're not asking people to do something you haven't done. - Exactly, exactly.
	And I mean, talk about, I stay visible because if I didn't stay visible, I'd probably be swatted multiple times or worse.
	And I've had plenty of threats against my life and my family's life.
	So, so, I mean, this is, this is not where, where I'm at today is we have got to get more people in our, in our government.
	And I know that they exist and a lot of them are afraid.
	There's, there's many that are afraid.
	And I, so that's why I applaud this, this group that of 231 that signed this really great letter.
	Oh, that was the chain reaction.
	And I know that we're going to hear more from them, and we need to hear more like that from other.
	Oh, that was a chain reaction.
	Tens of thousands.
	Yeah.
	And we need it from everybody.
	I want to just kind of keep the town hall format going.
	Got a couple of, I'd say about 10, 15 more minutes.
	Keep it going if people want to, but I know it's getting late for some folks, and I told Brad we'd do about two, but we can keep going if you want.
	Well, this is historic.
	I'll stay as long as you want.
	And this is, so Real America's Voice, I want to let everybody know, on the network, we are going to be there on the ground in Iowa.
	The team's there on the ground.
	They were there with President Trump last night doing his sort of impromptu town hall because the, you know, all the roads were crazy.
	It's the brawl in the blizzard.
	Look, when I say Real America's Voice, I mean that.
	So, I wanted to get up James Pennington here.
	We called him up as a speaker.
	He says that I was in a room with God.
	I wanted to ask what that meant, James.
	Hi, you guys hear me?
	Yeah.
	I had a drunk driver drive a car over my chest in front of about a hundred of my friends, and I died, and they all watched me lay there and die.
	So, I experienced what was My experience was for me, I mean, it's hard to tell everybody else, but I learned that sacrifice is real.
	That people die, soldiers die, firemen die, you know, Jesus Christ, a man came and died for me.
	That's what I learned from that experience without going into any details.
	So I lived through, I died and then came back and now I'm saving souls and I formed these two veteran bands.
	They kind of showed me like little downloads.
	You know, uh, the, the good Lord.
	And so over the years, they kind of show me here and there, like, this is what you're doing.
	This is what you've chosen to do.
	And I agreed.
	So I'm doing it.
	Well, long story short in Lawrenceville, Illinois, Trevor Penick was killed in Afghanistan, June, 2012 at the funeral.
	Uh, The general took our family in a room privately and told us—and this is when I learned how divided America is, because until that time I didn't know—they told us that 200-plus Democrats were flying in on airplanes to Vincennes, Indiana, where he's laid to rest next to the Indiana Military Museum, to protest to say that Trevor died for nothing and his sergeant Our family, we were just like, what?
	Why?
	And so I started, so now I have two veteran bands.
	I play out every month.
	I help save homeless veterans, senior citizen veterans who are suffering and struggling because of the lousy job our current administration is doing.
	And by the way, Trump, I still have a federal lawsuit going on, so I can't talk about it.
	But him and the First Lady, and Roger, I'm honored to be followed by you.
	Him and the First Lady helped save our special needs son's lives.
	We're just regular folks, man.
	They didn't have to do that.
	And anybody that is saying things about them and making all these lies up about them, they really have no idea.
	Are you referring to Right to Try?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Uh, no, that my, our sons were being bullied.
	And so we were writing congressmen, the news and their special needs.
	And so they went through hell.
	And so we were asking for help and everybody.
	That's a good question for Roger, because I know Roger's known Trump 45 years.
	I don't know how Trump does all this outreach and helps all these people nobody knows about.
	us what to do we still have the letters they took a personal interest and we're just regular americans man these are beautiful people for roger because i know roger's known trump 45 years i don't know how trump does all this outreach and helps all those people nobody knows about like when i got married i didn't even tell anybody remarried my second wife trump called on the wedding day and talked to my wife for 10 minutes i I mean, what about Trump?
	He must spend like five hours a day just helping people, being nice to people, because I'm a busy guy.
	I don't know how Trump does it.
	Trump, he doesn't want you to know this, but he's a very sentimental guy and he really likes people.
	In other words, and he likes regular people.
	If you gave Donald Trump a choice between having Dinner with a group of plumbers, or a bunch of taxi cab drivers, or a bunch of Fortune 500 CEOs.
	He'd choose the former rather than the latter.
	You can see it.
	It is rallies.
	He gets strength from people.
	He's always handing out large tips.
	He's a huge believer and tipper for service.
	A waiter, a doorman, a driver.
	He's notorious for this.
	Long before he was in politics, there would just be random acts of kindness.
	He would read about somebody who had misfortune.
	He would have his people track them down.
	He paid off a guy's mortgage that he read about who was in distress.
	He flew a kid to a special surgeon, an Orthodox Jewish kid, to a special surgeon in Los Angeles at his own expense.
	I mean, he's a very philanthropic He's a caring guy, but that didn't fit the image of a cutthroat Manhattan real estate developer.
	It's a side of him that many people don't know.
	The thing about Trump is there's nothing pretentious, there's nothing stiff, there's nothing formal.
	It's enormous fun to be with Donald Trump.
	He's got a self-deprecating sense of humor.
	He's just a regular guy, and let's face it, he loves a regular cheeseburger.
	And that's why they hate him.
	Yeah, because he's a true patriot.
	Actually, Roger, did you see Michael Tracy?
	He's a man of the left.
	He's kind of a liberal center-left kind of guy.
	And I don't want to put him in a box.
	I mean to say he's not a conservative.
	But he has done some reporting on Iowa, and he found these two 16-year-olds, and they said they weren't even sure how the caucus worked, but they just wanted to come because they liked Trump and they thought he was funny.
	Yeah, I mean, he is, he is extraordinary.
	He's fun to be with.
	People don't, I think that he, you know, look, he's also tough as nails.
	I mean, look, I worked for Richard Nixon.
	He's a guy who clawed himself back from oblivion, political oblivion, and staged the greatest political comeback in American history.
	I worked for Senator Bob Dole.
	A guy who was hit by a shell in World War II, told that he would never walk again, never have the use of his hands again, or who basically clawed his way back to being a totally functional human being, and would have been a great president, by the way.
	Those guys were very, very tough.
	Technically, I think he got shot by a German machine gun like 14 times.
	It was really extraordinary.
	Actually, I think he was wounded in Italy, I believe.
	No, I saw the documentary about it.
	He got hit by 14 bullets from a German machine gun.
	This is an extraordinary human being.
	I worked for him as a staff assistant in the U.S.
	Senate for two years.
	He was a great man.
	He was one of the greatest men of the 20th century.
	He would have been a great president, certainly preferable to George H.W.
	Bush.
	So, but the point is, I knew both these guys.
	They were very tough guys.
	Neither one of them nearly as tough or as resilient as Trump.
	I don't know how Trump gets up every morning considering the weight of everything they're trying against him.
	But he remains, as I said earlier, resilient, confident, good humored, balanced, funny, Let me get her up.
	I've got Ben Geller here.
	I guess confidence is the single most important thing.
	Absolutely convinced that he will win.
	You were telling me, Roger, you talk to him all the time.
	He's the best you've ever seen him in 45 years.
	I mean, this guy just has incredible energy.
	I wonder if we could talk to Liz Churchill.
	She's huge on X.
	Love her.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let me get her up.
	I have to sign her.
	I've got Ben Geller here.
	Let's go to Ben first because I've got him in the queue.
	And then I'll go and I'll bring up Liz.
	Ben, how's it going, man?
	Good, Jack.
	It's nice to hear from you.
	And it's nice to see my friend Roger and General Flynn and Alex.
	And thanks to Real America's Voice and Human Events for putting this on.
	I just wanted to touch real quick with the panel a resounding My opinion is, or really it's going to be fact tomorrow, is obviously Donald Trump's going to sweep Iowa and then he's going to go on to sweep New Hampshire.
	And so I think I'm one of the only people currently serving or did serve in public office in this space currently.
	And I think it's really important to tell the average Americans or the everyday Americans that are listening at home is The fight is not over after the primaries, guys.
	We need to really dig in.
	And so I would really just encourage people when we're done with the primary is go to DonaldJTrump.com or meet up with your local precinct.
	And or if there's even an open seat for you to run locally for office, do it.
	Because when you run for office, At the, if you want to run for council or your state legislature or whatever, you're going to be bringing people to the polls to vote for Donald J. Trump.
	And so I would just encourage people to get involved.
	Um, I think that's a huge piece, excuse me, piece because the RNC is not coming to save us.
	And, uh, it's just super important for, um, everyday Americans to do what they can.
	Uh, raising money is important, but, uh, putting in that work is just really, um, I'm ready to go right now.
	My issue is in Texas, we take it for granted we're red.
	Look, this is only going to work if we get on the ground.
	And it's what the general's talking about.
	It's what Roger was talking about, that if you're not putting in the time, if you're not putting in the hours.
	Look, Alex Jones says he's going to go door-to-door, folks.
	You heard it here tonight.
	We've got him on audio.
	My team is recording this.
	Alex, that is a verbal contract, which is a commitment in the state of Texas.
	I'm ready to go right now.
	My issue is in Texas, we take it for granted.
	We're red.
	I agree we're almost purple.
	I'm ready to go knock on doors.
	Wherever you say, I'm going.
	All right.
	Well, we'll, we'll plug you in, but we do have Liz Churchill and I, I promised her that she would, she would pop on.
	So Liz, how's it going?
	Good.
	How is everyone doing this evening?
	Very well.
	Excellent.
	Well, I guess the only thing I would like to touch on is what the great Roger Stone had stated earlier, and I'm just going to extend on what he said in regards to the democratic tactics.
	I've mentioned this before in previous spaces, that what they're simply using are the Solowinski rules for radicals.
	This is very, very, very clear.
	So when you see me post, and I'm swearing, and I'm calling out these people, and I'm putting them on the defense, I'm simply using the very same playbook that they're using against everybody else.
	And I encourage everybody else to do the same.
	Because this way, it puts them on the defense.
	And it's worked, so far.
	It really has.
	And I don't think that they saw this monstrous army coming.
	And I'd also like to thank Elon once again for giving us the ability to speak freely on this platform.
	And with saying that, I also encourage everybody to pay attention to what the globalist terrorists are saying overseas this week.
	The spiritual, economic, Financial, psychological terrorists are planning our future, so I think it would be very important to pay attention to what they say, but also keep in mind that they're just a front and this is really all being run by the International Bank of Settlements.
	I don't know if any of you guys have anything to add to that, but that's about it.
	Well, I think that's great.
	There was actually a Napoleon quote that I tweeted out earlier today, and I don't have it on the top of my head, and I think Roger retweeted it, just basically talking about that when the banks take control of the government, when the government's dependent on its money, from the banks and the banking system, that is when the government is no longer beholden to the people, that is when it's no longer beholden to their own national interest because they become beholden to the interests of where they get their money.
	And that, of course, is the banks themselves.
	Absolutely.
	And it also said, never interrupt an enemy while they're destroying themselves.
	I think that's a very key point right now.
	So we should not just assume that Joe and Jill are going to be dislodged all that easy.
	In other words, I think Barack Obama, who is the de facto head of the Democratic Party and the head of the cabal, may have given Joe the bad news.
	But Dr. Jill has no intention of leaving.
	She likes it right where she is.
	And of course, Joe has to maintain the power to pardon himself and his brother and his Roger, I have a question.
	Here's the answer.
	I think it's fair to say that right now there's still internal internecine squabbling going on within the Democratic Party.
	So, Roger, I have a question.
	You saw that with the Lloyd Austin situation.
	The fact that the secretary of defense, the infighting within the White House and the administration is so bad, the secretary of defense won't even let people know he's— He knows that if he goes into the hospital and they know about it, that they'll try to replace him or they'll try to get one over.
	If anything, that shows you how bad the infighting is in the Biden administration.
	So there's two questions here.
	I want to hear General Flynn, but also Roger Amjac's take on this.
	This is so important.
	How big is the Lloyd Austin thing?
	He might even be alive for all we know.
	Huge infection, they admitted.
	God only knows.
	That shows the incompetence.
	But yeah, we don't want Joe Biden to go.
	We don't want the impeachment.
	We don't want to take him off the ballot.
	All these people pushing that.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	But that's a whole bunch of questions there.
	What's going on with Lloyd Austin?
	How impressive is this General Flynn?
	And then on top of that, do we really want Joe Biden to go?
	Yeah, from my perspective, we do not want Joe Biden to go.
	He would be the perfect candidate to take into a November election against Donald Trump.
	In terms of Lloyd Austin, you know, this is a really, really dangerous situation for the National Security Council of the country, which really only consists of about a half a dozen people, one of which is the Secretary of Defense.
	And not the Deputy Secretary of Defense, who really has no business even being the Deputy Secretary, other than just a political hack with a bunch of political hacks around her.
	No, no.
	It doesn't necessarily mean you've got to have great military experience, but you've got to have some experiences in the kinds of stuff that we're talking about here.
	But the health situation with the Secretary right now is still unknown, and we should know more about this.
	They refuse to answer any questions.
	The potential for what he's gone through, because we all do know, I do know for a fact, for a fact that the health condition of cancer has skyrocketed in the military from all of what they call the DMED data.
	And, and Lloyd Austin is a clear example of the problems with taking the full range of the, of the VAX, the COVID VAX.
	So, and he's, he's taken them all and, and, and then some.
	So, I mean, we have, we have prostate cancer in 20 year olds, 30 year olds.
	In the military, that's unheard of.
	The numbers have skyrocketed.
	So you can imagine somebody like Lloyd Austin, who's, you know, breaking 70 and having the problems that he's having already with the advent of the vaccine, multiple shots.
	I mean, you know, you can't make this up, okay?
	We are in a bad, bad situation.
	And I think that people are going to have to, you know, we're going to have to keep our voices Loud, clear, very precise in what we talk about.
	And I do think, although I'm one to throw out a harsh name or two here and there, we've got to be very clear about the direction that we know this country is being taken by these globalists.
	It's not good.
	It's not a good thing.
	And a lot of Americans, I mean, a third, let's just say a third, to lowball it a little bit, a third of Americans are just sleepy thinking that this is just politics as usual.
	We'll get over this in another election.
	That's bullshit.
	This is a takeover of this country by an elite that are only partially part of this country.
	The majority of the group that actually is trying to take this country over are not from here.
	Well, let me make one more announcement and I'm going to just turn this off and listen to this and finish work at the office and drive home because I don't want to dominate.
	I'm asking you questions, but you have a lot of questions and I appreciate the time.
	General Flynn, you were the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
	You fought wars all over the world.
	And I want to believe our country is run by our own country, even if it's run by corrupt people.
	But I look at this and I think we're not.
	We see, I see the Navy officers, all of them, bringing out the numbers, releasing secret memos.
	They can't even put helicopter pilots in or fixed-wing aircraft in because of the cancers and the heart attacks.
	And I want to think it is a QICOM attack through the globalists or something else.
	Why would our own system give these shots to our own military that then debilitates it?
	And as you said, The last institution in the United States of America that still maintains a modicum of integrity is the United States Uniformed Military.
	My God, why would the globalists, when they run America and are using it for all this power, sabotage their own power base?
	Do we know who was actually behind this plot?
	The last institution in the United States of America that still maintains a modicum of integrity is the United States uniformed military, not the civilian side of it, but the uniformed military.
	That is the last bastion of really true American culture.
	Other than, you know, other than maybe you could call the grassroots of America, but that's not an institution necessarily.
	It is a, it is a, you know, it's a body of people.
	But when we talk about institutions in this country, the left has taken down damn near every single institution, starting with the education system.
	The healthcare system, you name it, banking system, the corporate, you know, the corporate system that, you know, just on and on and on.
	So they couldn't help themselves.
	They bombed the military.
	The last bastion is the United States military.
	And you can see right now with the leadership that they have put in place, starting from this secretary of defense, the chairman and others throughout, throughout the, all of the chiefs of the services, they are, and the idea of three years ago, they started And you predicted another purge.
	the critical race theory, and they started to impose DEI.
	I mean, this is to destroy an institution that is all about this country.
	And you predicted another purge.
	How do they do it?
	Yeah, I mean, you know, well, they're going to do it.
	You're going to see in the next probably six months between now and June timeframe, you're going to see another realm or another range of officers, particularly officers and some senior non-coms that are going to be pushed out to Thank you for your service.
	Your time is done.
	No more promotions.
	You're out.
	And you're going to start to see that between now and June.
	In some cases, it's already started.
	So when that happens, basically all they're doing is they're putting more of their type of people, those that they can control, in place.
	To basically achieve what we just finished reading in this recent article.
	Because they don't just say these things without preparing for them.
	They're just strengthening their coup.
	Again, never underestimate an adversary.
	And in this case, this particular adversary wants to build this country back better.
	But before they do that, they want to destroy everything that's good about it first.
	And they have done that.
	Alex, uh, before you run and that, you know, there's a lot of, uh, I got all these great brains to talk to.
	Anytime I talk to General Flynn, people don't know.
	One of the questions, so Human Events has been, I want to thank Real America's Voice for coordinating all this again and their coverage in Iowa.
	And Human Events over at Twitter is tweeting out some of the clips.
	A lot of attention to our VP choices, tweets and a lot of commentary on, I think that's... By the way, I'm going to air this whole thing tomorrow on my show, Jack.
	Oh, so we're just doing your show for you tomorrow, huh?
	Well, I'm doing mine first, so there.
	No, I want to do my show.
	But I have to throw this out.
	I have to throw this out to everybody.
	Since we're on here, what do we think, or if I could get the thoughts of Alex, General Flynn, and Roger, Absolutely not.
	I'll give you my answer right now.
	Absolutely not.
	She will undermine President Trump from minute one.
	Well, Rogers said it the best.
	Absolutely not.
	I'll give you my answer right now.
	Absolutely not.
	She will undermine President Trump from minute one.
	Well, Roger said it the best.
	He said a month ago.
	I think it was just to press the grassroots.
	I think people would- I think it would drop all the numbers, all the momentum, dead.
	Roger said it best.
	Trump will need a food tester.
	Roger won't ever say what Trump tells him in private, but a little bird told me Hell will freeze over, so I think that's a disinformation story.
	When we hear that, I'm glad you brought it up, that Trump would ever pick bird brain to do that.
	Roger?
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	This is being fanned by the DeSantis people.
	It's disinformation.
	You've got two parts of this.
	One is the question of character.
	She looked Donald Trump in the eye and she said, sir, you've been a great president.
	If you run again, I won't run.
	And now she's broken her word and she's running.
	So if you don't have your word, what do you have?
	Then secondarily, her views are so antithetically the exact opposite of Trump's.
	Trump isn't an isolationist.
	He's a non-interventionist in the tradition of Rand Paul.
	And she is a full on, where's the next world war?
	Well, shoot first, ask questions later, neocon.
	It just won't work.
	And Jack, you're exactly right.
	It would deflate the energy in the base.
	You need to pick someone who is additive, not someone who deflates your own supporters.
	Roger, don't talk to Trump and tell it.
	People don't have to worry.
	It's not going to happen.
	I think there's zero prospect that this happens.
	Zero prospect.
	Politically disastrous, as you say, and potentially also physically disastrous.
	And Richard Barris, People's Pundit, has said on my program, and Alex, you know about this, and Roger, you and I have done the specials about JFK and Watergate.
	If someone like this becomes your vice president, then it is a guarantee that you will be taken out.
	Yeah, that's why I say Flynn should be the VP, which he doesn't want it because he doesn't want it.
	It's like that great movie, Gladiator, that's a composite of true, true stories.
	There was a Roman emperor that tried to hire the top general.
	He said, I don't want the job.
	He said, that's why you get it.
	Trump wouldn't have to worry about Flynn as VP because he doesn't want the power.
	Almost anybody else you got to really watch out for.
	That's what's so dangerous.
	Yeah, I think that's it.
	Yeah.
	I like to Jack's idea of Rand Paul, but I think there's your Secretary of State, in all honesty.
	I think Rand Paul would be a great Secretary of State.
	Secretary of Defense is, I think, the best possible choice for Secretary of Defense is participating in this Twitter space.
	That would be General Flynn.
	So I think you have to find someone Who helps you politically, but who can be trusted in terms of your worldview.
	And you're absolutely right.
	You couldn't trust Nikki Haley as far as you can pick her up and throw her, and it would deflate the base.
	Look, Bush called Trump, pardon me, Bush called Reagan, Bush criticized Reagan's economic views as voodoo economics.
	Trump is not going to pick somebody he called birdbrain for Vice President of the United States.
	Zero chance, in my opinion.
	Amen, amen to that.
	I wanted to get in.
	Did we have, uh... Oh, wait, no, I think we lost I Meme to Say was here.
	We were going to pull them in, and I think we may have just lost them, but let's... Hey, the Kim Dotcom... That's the real Kim Dotcom.
	Oh, Kim Dotcom is there?
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	Here's I Meme.
	Here, I Meme, therefore I am.
	We got to get our memesters in back in here.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	You're up.
	You're up.
	Are you there, iMeme?
	iMeme, we're waiting for you.
	It looks like your mic's open, but for some reason, I don't know, maybe you've got like a system where... Maybe you can put them on hold for a minute.
	Yeah, yeah, maybe there's a system microphone... By the way, I'll sit here all night.
	It's great to be talking to all you guys.
	Hey, this is real, man.
	This is real.
	Okay, good evening.
	I'm actually a woman.
	Jack, you know what?
	You make me very proud.
	- Oh man, this is real.
	- Real as it gets.
	Okay, I mean-- - Okay, good evening.
	I'm actually a woman.
	- Good evening.
	- Oh, I did not realize, what you're, who do you have, Isaac Newton there?
	- Jack, you know what, you make me very proud.
	Your parents are from the same country and you make me, you make this Paul very proud.
	You know what?
	You fight.
	Gentlemen, I want to say General Flynn... Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	It's my pleasure.
	I'm very proud of you.
	And I wanted to thank your parents.
	So what?
	So what?
	General Flynn, Roger, Alex, you guys are my heroes.
	You know, I came from communist country.
	And you know what?
	The conversation has been going, and so I wanted to chime in so many times, you know, talking about President Trump.
	Actually, I knew a few people who worked for him, even before he decided to run.
	And you know what?
	I heard so many great stories, people mentioned, that people don't even don't know about.
	I knew people who worked for him, they were like low-level, guys and he remember the kids names they send that he send them every Christmas gifts ask for new day names and you know the guy is not regular guy he's just amazing you know and what I want to say that I really appreciate guys you know You know what?
	What do you guys do?
	I have two sons.
	They are two teenagers.
	And, you know, sometimes they get really upset at me because they say, Mom, you break politics right now.
	You sleep talk politics.
	And I try to explain to them that, you know what?
	If I ran here to look for freedom, And if we're going to lose this nation, there's no other place to run.
	And people don't understand, because I grew up under communism, how tough and difficult it is.
	And what they're doing is exactly mirror what I lived through it.
	Yes, we don't have to stand in lines to get food, but the freedoms are being taken away from us.
	Every day, day after day, and somebody mentioned New York City.
	I feel like a drop in the ocean every time because I'm in between.
	I have a house in Westchester and I have an apartment in the city in Manhattan.
	I keep going back and forth and I called my representatives and I feel like I'm the only one who, like, calls everybody.
	I call my kids' schools, you know, I'm trying, you know, my kids even don't want to go out with me because they know I'm like kamikaze, that I start, you know, misbehaving because I don't take any shit from anybody.
	So, you know, I try to fight, but I feel like people are giving up.
	Like, I talked to some people that they didn't vote.
	I have a friend who lives in the Bronx.
	She said, oh, I'm not going to go.
	You're in New York then?
	Yes, I'm in New York.
	I'm, you know, I have a house.
	I go in between Manhattan and Westchester.
	Now I spend more time in Westchester because I just can't take the liberals.
	Well, ma'am, just add one point here.
	Add one point.
	You've been through it, so you know Americans have normalcy bias.
	It's like a domesticated animal or deer that have ever been hunted.
	They don't know they're in danger.
	So you've been through it.
	Alex, I can't tell you when I'm looking at Americans.
	You know what?
	Listen, America is my country right now, but you know what?
	I'm looking at the Americans.
	Some Americans here, especially in New York, and people can say whatever because I don't give a damn about this.
	They're domesticated.
	They are privileged.
	They are spoiled.
	They're ignorant fools.
	They're like sheep going to the slaughter, and they're clapping while they're doing it.
	And it drives me completely insane.
	Everywhere where I go, they're very ignorant.
	I have people still in my building in Manhattan.
	They wear a freaking mask.
	It has been three years.
	We have all the data.
	They still wear a mask.
	No, you're right.
	I mean, you see the cult members that just are brainwashed.
	That's why we got to keep reaching out to them.
	And hey, you've been through it.
	You got to, you got to feel sorry for them because they don't know.
	But no, I don't feel sorry.
	I feel like I call them out.
	I'll tell them that they stupid.
	I even don't know.
	I, you know what?
	I felt sorry on the beginning because they were messed with, but now I know they stupid because after so long, if you can be searching, if you can really, you know, use some common sense, you must be a fool.
	But let me just add this.
	I agree they have problems, but think about Nietzsche.
	That which does not kill you only makes you stronger.
	So you went through all this.
	That's why Trump helped build this country.
	I don't know how we reach out to people that are born into freedom and take it for granted.
	That's a real paradox of freedom, because you know the memes.
	Bad times make strong men.
	Strong men make good times.
	Good times make weak men.
	Weak men make bad times.
	That is the paradox we should ask General Flynn or Roger Stone or Jack Masovic about because that's the problem with success is it breeds weakness instead of meritocracy.
	Complacency.
	Complacency and laziness.
	And that's where we have become as a You know, in general, and I'm generalizing a little bit, but but are the complacency in our society, the laziness in our society to participate as citizens.
	And that's why I love these.
	I love these people that are that have come from other countries that have left their countries because of because of the you know, the way that those countries are being run to come to America to find a better life.
	You know, as this great lady is talking about.
	And and you know, God, I mean, she's lived it.
	She's seen it.
	She knows exactly what what she's seeing now in our own country.
	And this is I mean, I've been to these countries.
	I know I've studied enough.
	I've been there.
	I fought these bastards.
	And I know what they're what it's like.
	And I know how these people live in these other countries.
	And in some places, they live even worse than than than, you know, than even people can even imagine in this country.
	So it is not far fetched.
	And I made a video the other day talking about Obama, you know, being a kind of a combination of some of the of the characters of the last century, you know, Stalin and Hitler and Mao.
	Well, just those three in less than 100 years, folks.
	You know, since 1920 till now, so let's just say 100 years, just those three alone killed their own people to the tune of like 100 to 120 million people of their own people.
	So, I mean, it's not like this happened thousands of years ago.
	This happened in the last century.
	So we cannot be so complacent or so lazy to think that our country doesn't risk, you know, having leaders that, and I use that term loosely, but But leaders, they are in their own dictatorial and tyrannical way that can easily take charge of a nation that becomes so complacent, so lazy and so pathetic.
	And, you know, in our own ways.
	You know, maybe that's not the choir that I'm preaching to, but there's a lot of people in this country that just say... Well, General, but I think that's what she's asking.
	How do we reach out to these people?
	Well, you know what?
	You put your time into those people that you can.
	There are going to be people that you're going to spend some time with and you're going to say, Jesus, these people, they just don't get it.
	Go and move.
	Move to the next target.
	Move to the next target.
	I agree.
	Honestly, God, do not waste your time on some of these people.
	If somebody's idiotic enough to drive around the city or the town with a mask on in their car by themselves, God help us.
	You know, God help them because you're not going to be able to convince them.
	But if if there's people in a community that, you know, that haven't stepped out of their homes or haven't participated, go tell them, look, we have this group or we you know, we need to get involved in this group or we need to get, you know, stand up this club or we need to get somebody involved.
	Somebody said earlier, go run for office.
	You know, go run for office.
	No, I agree, but let me ask you this, General Flynn.
	I know we got to go here soon.
	It does seem to be geographic.
	There's a lot of great people in New York, a lot of great people in LA, a lot of great, but on average, it's bad.
	Like what?
	And what's crazy is they leave those areas and then they come to Florida and Texas and try to set it up again.
	Like if I know, I know how to admit when I'm wrong and I don't get why leftists can't grow from their experiences.
	Yeah, because they have no conscience.
	OK, people on the left, you know, a communist has has no soul.
	They don't have a consciousness like like I have.
	And I'll speak for myself.
	You know, the city of New York, you know, five five boroughs.
	It is owned by one of those boroughs.
	It is dominated by one of those boroughs.
	And if we could ever break that in that city and get somebody that could really stand up and you're talking about Manhattan.
	Yeah, I'm talking, yes.
	And also, I mean, completely dominated.
	So when you go to elections and such, I mean, we get somebody in that city like the way Rudy was when he ran for mayor.
	Oh, he totally turned it around.
	He completely changed the nature, the culture, the attitude.
	We need to have that because I will say that as the city of New York goes, so goes the state of the nation, right?
	I mean, the people of this country, and I hate to say that, well, you know, other parts of the country don't matter.
	The whole country matters.
	But if New York City, which is a beacon, and when it's very powerful and New York City is running on all engines, And it's running right, and being run right, being led right.
	You see a culture shift that can actually... Well, let me ask you this.
	You've watched El Salvador.
	You've watched El Salvador, General.
	In 10 years, highest crime rate in the world, lowest crime rate.
	How does leadership, good leadership, change things so quick?
	Yeah, leadership matters because leadership is discipline.
	It has to be courageous.
	You can't worry about whether people like you or not.
	You can't worry about what the headlines say.
	You have to look past all of that, and you have to make what I call harder right decisions.
	And those harder right decisions are not necessarily going to make everybody happy, but they're going to make everybody, they're going to make this country run the way it's supposed to be run with a very, very, you know, a very sort of, like I say, I use the word discipline.
	I mean, this country needs to have discipline reinstilled in it, and it needs to have it reinstilled at the federal level, and there has to be massive, Massive reforms in the in the federal government.
	We cannot have this federal government that is so blatantly and intentionally out of control and being allowed to be that way because frankly, we just haven't had anybody that knows how to run the damn thing.
	Run the government, not run parts and policies and issues, but actually run the government.
	The government itself.
	How would you describe that?
	Create a goal, create a vision, get people behind it, and then turn people loose.
	Yeah, and this is where the president of the United States and only the president of the United States can authorize, can do things on his or her own, but it can also authorize the people that are under them, loyal people who are not only loyal to the president's policies, but loyal to the Constitution, can authorize them to take certain but loyal to the Constitution, can authorize them to take certain measures when it comes to doing the things that we need to do to reform the And, you know, Ronald Reagan did some really interesting things.
	Abraham Lincoln did some interesting things.
	General Ulysses S. Grant did some interesting things as president.
	So they're there.
	And actually, in George Washington, if you really want to dig in.
	But there is precedent for how in the past presidents have done things to make a positive difference to move the country forward instead of moving the country right now towards something that frankly is dangerous.
	for the livelihood.
	No, I totally agree.
	People think of the globals as all powerful.
	No, they're creating this function than using the crisis because they want that.
	I've studied history.
	If you get good leadership and good people, it's actually easy to go in the right direction.
	They're just threatened by that.
	And guys, if I could, we just got in here, Cowboy Logic from Real America's Voice is joining us.
	And before we wrap things up, wanted to get him in and let everybody know that we're going to be pounding Iowa all day tomorrow.
	We're going to be out there, Real America's Voice.
	I know all of us on our various shows are going to be live.
	Alex and Roger, I'm sure the General's going to be getting his boots on the ground, but we're going to get Cowboy Logic in here.
	Well, thanks so much, Jack.
	It's actually she, Donna Feduccia, Cowboy Logic.
	Just huge fans of all the people in here, followers of them, and it's an honor to be on Real America's Voice and on this panel with so many great people.
	Like Steve Gruber said, you gotta fight like a Democrat.
	I've been saying for years that the Democrats circle the wagons, the Republicans eat their young.
	And we've got to stop doing that.
	I am from the New York area, worked 35 years in New York City media.
	I feel for what Aimee is saying because my kids are still up there.
	Came down to Georgia, tried to turn things around, saw them tell Hershel Walker to stand down, don't worry, we got this.
	It was horrible.
	And unfortunately, what scares me, and we've been talking about the vote, Is that we've got 10 million illegals that can easily be registered Democrats.
	And how do we combat that?
	That's what I'm scared of at this point.
	This could be the joker.
	This could be the wild card that we didn't have in 2020 or 2016.
	All I see is Democrat voters with Ben Berquam and Oscar E. Blue on the border there coming across in droves.
	And they are going to vote for Biden.
	Yeah, I mean, Roger might want to jump on this.
	I have, you know, I could talk for an hour about just this.
	You know, in Arizona, most people don't know in Arizona, To vote for the dog catcher, or a county or state official, you must have a valid government ID, like a driver's license.
	But to vote for a U.S.
	Senator, or a U.S.
	House of Representatives, or the President of the United States, you don't.
	State of Arizona.
	That's the laws there.
	I mean, number one, people have to understand, in every state that we've represented on this space, And then fight to make sure that people are involved.
	the laws in place in these different states and in these counties, and then fight to make sure that people are involved.
	We've got, I mean, my wife and I went out and did poll watching this, you know, this past 2022 election, for Christ's sake.
	You know, I don't have that much time to do that kind of stuff, but we did it.
	We took the time to do it.
	I learned more about poll watchers.
	I did the training.
	There's a lot that a person can do if they just decide to get involved in their local counties.
	And like I said, Maricopa County, early on, I said that Maricopa County just did a Republican vote where they did all the paper ballots, and they did it in one hour.
	One hour they They did 2,500 vote counts, and it's easy to do that.
	So, I mean, there's so much that we can do.
	Wait, General, did you see the Taiwan video that came out yesterday?
	I did, I did.
	We're running around, and she's going, eat our sun.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I've got to ask the question.
	The Taiwan First Party won.
	The TPP Party won.
	Right in the room and everyone could see it.
	And the camera turns and the whole room is full of people with cameras.
	Nobody's pushing them out or anything.
	And guess who won?
	And guess who won for the folks that weren't paying attention to the Taiwan First Party won.
	The DPP party won.
	And they won in a big, big way.
	Now, they're going to have some challenges there, but they won because they made sure that the system was done the way it's supposed to be done.
	And they got a lot of people involved.
	They did some really good... I watched this election very closely.
	They got a lot of grassroots people out and they overwhelmed... And General Flynn, isn't that the good news?
	That anti-globalist populists are winning everywhere.
	They're winning everywhere.
	We're going to win here in this country, too.
	But you've got to keep in mind, Well, I think that's as good a space as any to kind of leave it on for spaces tonight that we are going to win.
	Our side is ascended.
	They would not be running operations like this.
	They would not be putting out these planting stories in NBC and The Atlantic and all these places talking about warnings that Trump comes in if they were not worried.
	They are worried because of our momentum.
	They are worried because of the work we are putting in.
	And they're worried because they know what's going to happen in Iowa tomorrow is the first shot politically.
	I always have to say that politically, or the kids say in Minecraft.
	The first shot in Minecraft across the bow of globalism.
	It all starts in Iowa tomorrow.
	Roger, any final words for us?
	Well, first of all, let me thank Cowboy Logic.
	I'm a big fan.
	I've been on that show.
	Look, I think we saw two hints this past week.
	One, when the mayor of Chicago said that we're running out of money, these migrants are breaking the system, it's unsustainable.
	The answer is to make them all citizens, which is, of course, not the answer, but their political goal.
	Then when Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that after his press conference with the President of Mexico that he hinted at that citizenship for all these illegals was the answer to the issue.
	So very clearly that is their game plan.
	There's only one man who can stop that.
	There's only one man who has a plan to deport literally millions of illegals.
	President Dwight Eisenhower deported 1.3 million.
	America can be saved.
	There is one man who can save it.
	There's only been a couple of times in history when one man really could determine the future of the country.
	It was true in the case of George Washington.
	It was true in the case of Abraham Lincoln.
	And it is now true in the case of Donald J. Trump.
	Let me thank the folks from Real America's Voice.
	Thank you, Alex.
	Always a world of respect for General Mike Flynn, one of the greatest living Americans.
	It's just a privilege for me to be here.
	Many thanks.
	All right.
	God bless everybody on this space.
	Thank you, Roger Stone.
	Thank you, Alex Jones.
	Thank you, General Flynn.
	Thank you, Jack Pasovic.
	I ask everybody, please tune in every day at 2 p.m.
	Eastern Time on Real America's Voice to watch Human Events Daily.
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