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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard a very special live edition of Human Events Live right here from AmericaFest Phoenix, Arizona.
And I am joined by two very special guests to my immediate left.
We have Ava Vlaar and Jake Angeli, the American Shaman himself.
Folks, can we give it up for Ava and the American Shaman!
Jacob, tell me, tell me, how does it feel to be at AmericaFest?
Liberating!
Liberating, I love it.
Ava, how does it feel to be here?
Oh, electrifying.
It's awesome.
I'm so happy.
Look, when I see an event like this, and I'm going to click it out, so we are live here, Real America's Voice, we really appreciate them being able to get us out like this, to have everything going directly live.
Here we are on Twitter and everything else, and it's really an incredible situation, but When we look at this gathering of patriots from all over the country, all over the world, it's complex, but it's simple.
You know what I mean?
It's complex, but it's simple.
They stand for totalitarianism, total and absolute control.
We stand for freedom.
And if you are someone who believes in freedom, if you're someone who believes in the sacred rights of the individual, if you're someone who believes that our heritage and our choices and our cultures are worth defending, then AmericaFest is the place to do so.
Absolutely.
I really believe that.
So Jake, tell us, what made you want to come out today?
Um, well, it's happening in my town, man.
So, I mean, it's my first time going to AmericaFest after being out of prison.
So, I figured, why the heck not?
You know?
Coming to, you know, Patriots in my town?
I better show up.
It's my shamanic duty.
Well, how do you find it?
How have you found AmericaFest since you've been here?
You've been here, what, about an hour or two now so far?
What do you think of the crowd?
What do you think of the vibes?
Very warm and welcoming.
Lots of positive vibes.
Very high vibe.
Very diverse audience, very diverse group of people, young, old.
We got Gays Against Groomers here, we've got Trump supporters, we got young Republicans, we got Libertarians.
You know, we got everybody here, man.
And that's cool.
And I'd be remiss if I wasn't asking that now you are here potentially in a political capacity as well, is that right?
Well, I mean, yeah, I am running for Congress in the 8th Congressional District in Arizona, but I'm running as a Libertarian.
So I'm not, per se, running in the primary versus Abe Hamade or Anthony Kern or Blake Masters.
But, yeah, I'm not collecting signatures or anything.
You can't do that inside, you have to do that outside.
I'd rather mingle with the people.
That's great.
So you're here, Ava.
Yeah, can you tell me a little bit, because we saw you, obviously, you stand out a little bit in this crowd.
You've got to tell me that makeup routine.
But, like, tell me about how your life has changed in the past, like, I don't know, it's been a while now, but, like, I can't imagine what you've gone through and how different your life is now from what it used to be like before the events, right?
So can you just, like, walk me through that a little bit?
Like, do you like your life better now?
Are you like, what is happening?
Tell me a little bit.
I'm grateful for every day that I'm able to walk free.
It's amazing how much we take for granted because as people that Sorry about that.
As people that are living in a free country, we don't quite realize how good we have it until it's gone.
So for me, being able to play with my dog or see my family or go to the store or go on a hike, those are like special treats because I was locked in a cell for ten and a half months.
You know, I was in prison for 27 months.
I was entirely restricted.
So, Now I'm just, I'm much more grateful.
I'm a little more calm and patient.
Prison definitely makes you patient.
And I'll also say that I'm wiser.
I'm sharper intellectually than I was because now, I mean a lot of the stuff that I talk about now I knew before January 6th, but now I've done like a whole lot more studying to kind of refine my message to make it easier to understand in more detail.
Were you aware of the powers at play, you think, before January 6th?
Did you ever think that going there would land you in prison?
No, but I was aware of the powers that I was up against.
The stuff that I went through before January 6th, most people wouldn't believe.
Tell us.
What do you mean?
Well, do you guys know what psychotronic weaponry is?
Having been censored so much as well, I had a YouTube channel up, I got up to like 11,000 followers, then I'd get a couple thousand taken away and then they'd come back. - That's like everything. - And then they got taken down.
You know?
Weird, strange things happening with black helicopters.
Wow.
Yeah, like after I wrote my book, One Mind at a Time, A Deep State of Illusion, I put it on Amazon under Jacob Angeli.
That book, after I wrote that, my life changed completely.
So ever since then, it's been like escalating, you know, one thing after another.
But there are good forces in the government.
That's what's kind of interesting is that it hasn't all been bad.
Some of it's been kind of cool.
Now when you talk about those good forces, potential good forces in our government, do you feel that any of those forces came up or at least came to understand what was going on with you when you were faced with what you were faced with during and then after January 6th?
I mean, I hope so.
The administration switched, but if you understand the way that the deep state and the bureaucracy works, part of the reason why Trump kept getting stabbed in the back was because the bureaucracy hadn't changed even though the presidency had.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, because these are the people, and Ava, you see the same thing in Europe with the civil service.
You have the The names change at the top, right?
But the lower levels, the people who are remaining in power, the stay-behinds, they are like locusts and they burrow in and they're stuck in there.
They never change.
So yeah, we had Trump before, but it was that same layer of bureaucracy that pushed him out.
But now under Biden, They became empowered.
They've gone after patriots who, by the way, and I need people to understand this, like yourself, who on that day were completely peaceful.
Completely peaceful protests.
And if you can, I know you've told the story before, but could you tell us a little bit, maybe even just briefly, about what happened that day and what the media gets so wrong about you and that day?
Sure.
Great, let's get you a mic.
It keeps on falling.
We'll fix that.
Basically, long story short, the, uh... What's going on here?
Russ, can we get someone to kill us real quick?
I'll just put it right there.
Yeah, thank you.
So, to be perfectly honest with you, there was violence and chaos outside the building, but a lot of the time, I think that what people forget is that that was, I think, instigated.
The police were shooting tear gas and concussion grenades in a peaceful crowd.
What are you going to do when you have a bunch of tear gas surrounding you?
Are you going to move forward?
You know, people were shooting bullets, rubber bullets, into the crowd at peaceful protesters.
So I think it was largely a provoked response.
But when it comes to what happened to me personally... Before you get on your personal side, I'll tell you, and I've said this since day one, Myself and Raheem Kassam and another friend of ours, we're walking down, so we're walking down Capitol Hill on that day, right around this time, there's about 12.30, 12.40, we're coming down the hill, so down Constitution Avenue, we see the protests, we see the crowds.
They're on the steps, they're on the stairs, they're chanting, they're protesting, but they're peaceful.
And then all of a sudden I hear BOOM!
Boom!
Boom!
And that was the first two flashbangs that were thrown into, fired upon, a peaceful crowd.
And at that point, it's exactly as you say, that the crowd becomes violent.
We said that on War Room, the day after it happened, we go on with Bannon, I say, I don't know what happened.
But I do know that the crowd was peacefully protesting until the police fired on them.
And then nobody wanted to believe me, or any of you guys, until the body cam footage finally, just like two or three weeks ago, comes out and back that up completely.
Also showing, by the way, that non-lethal rounds, pellets and rubber balls, rubber bullets, were also being fired into the crowd.
There was no de-escalatory conduct on the part of the Capitol Police.
There were no loudspeakers telling people to disperse.
There were no calls for people to shut down.
No, they immediately went to the ratcheting up to the violent anti-protest, anti-riot tactics.
So I 100% agree with you because I saw it myself.
Right, because they needed a scapegoat, right?
They wanted to make a political enemy out of you guys.
And that's something that we see everywhere in the Western world.
I mean, we had similar things going on in the Netherlands, for example, during the COVID protests.
You know, we had like, we call them Romeo.
So those are police officers who are basically undercover, who went into the crowds just to instigate trouble, to instigate fights.
And it's only because it got caught on camera that we now know.
But because Well, basically what Jack says, you know, is we have a problem in Western societies anyway, where we don't know who pulls the strings.
And you don't know who to hold accountable for certain things, right?
So in the European Union, same problem.
If there's no direct voting, you can't hold people accountable.
You know, take them out of office in that sense.
And so that's the problem, obviously, when you don't know who exactly is the one making the decisions.
And apparently, well, I mean, you guys were the chosen ones to be that political scapegoat for that group, right?
Cut you off before the floor is yours.
Tell us what happened that day from your perspective and how the media has lied about it.
Let's start with the fact that part of the reason I went into the building was because I saw what was happening outside.
And I thought, well, this is a sacred chamber.
This is like a sacred building.
So if they're doing what's going on outside, inside, that's actually really bad juju.
It's really bad vibes.
And considering the building is sacred and it's built on electromagnetic ley lines, I thought the only way that I can stop that from happening is by going in.
Right?
So within the first 30 seconds of getting in the building, I stopped somebody from stealing.
And so, it may have just been muffins from a break room, but it's a principle.
No, we're not here to steal.
What are you doing?
So, I stopped him, closed the doors of the break room.
They were the ones stealing.
What's that?
They were the ones stealing.
The protesters, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's another subject entirely.
So then also later on when I finally was in like the foyer of the Senate where the pictures were taken by the media and stuff, I saw eventually there were people inside the Senate chamber.
So I walked over to the police and said, hey, there's people in the Senate.
If you want, I can go down there and help you guys, like, stop vandalism, violence, and theft, and help you clear the room.
They're like, yeah, come on, let's go.
So that's why I was walking around the building with them.
That's why they were escorting me around the building from locked door to locked door, because I offered to help.
And there's this footage, by the way, and it was Tucker who put it out, right?
Right.
So eventually it would take Tucker Carlson all the way, the government wouldn't do it, Nancy Pelosi and the January 6th Committee, which was supposedly an investigation into January 6th, wouldn't put out the footage of you.
You're sitting there, your legal team is saying that you were escorted through the building by law enforcement, invited in, and yet they say it's trespassing when government agents actually brought you into the building.
Well no, I went in through open doors, but I went into the Senate chamber with an escort.
Now, as soon as I got out of the building, shortly thereafter, I was the one that read and blasted Donald Trump's tweet out over my megaphone and told everybody to go home.
I stopped people from breaking in.
So what happened is, the Mockingbird Media had the shock and awe images outside the building And then they had their shock and awe trigger words and stuff to go along with those images so they could create this narrative of violent insurrection.
But inside the building, there was no violence.
There was no chaos.
So what they needed was a shocking image to correlate between the outside and the inside, and that's what they used my image for.
Right.
And so what they were trying to do is use my image and the images outside to create the illusion that what happened outside happened inside.
You see?
And then they put all this stuff on me.
They correlated me with all that other stuff.
So it was, even though I didn't harm anybody, steal anything, vandalize any property, that doesn't matter.
I'm guilty by association.
You see what I'm saying?
And then, so now the narrative has become, this guy represents that.
Even though I was trying to help the whole time.
And you even say, Ava, I don't know if you've seen this, but you actually said a prayer for the protesters and for the police officers that very day within the Senate chamber.
You were praying for peace, and yet they took a photo of you and said that you were being violent when it's the opposite of what you were doing.
A hundred percent, yeah.
But that's what the Mockingbird Media does, is they twist the truth.
As a Navy intelligence officer, you know information, misinformation, disinformation.
You have information that's true, disinformation that's false, and then misinformation, which is a combination of true and false information.
And then so the Mockingbird Media creates a misinformation narrative that they control so they can control the minds of the people and divide them into these compartmentalized and propagandized groups of warring ideologies that are arguing over the lies that they choose to believe.
Ava, how do we overcome something like that?
How can we use AmericaFest to overcome this situation?
Well, I mean, look, you're here right now, right?
So you haven't backed down.
And I think that that's ultimately the answer to all of this.
So we recognize their patterns.
We recognize their tactics.
And then once you recognize that, you see what they're doing, trying to flip the presumption of innocence around, you know, trying to find political scapegoats in order to demonize people out of voting for people who actually call out the truth, you know?
That seeing through that calling it out recognizing it and then rejecting it fully and saying I don't care what you call me I'm going to continue Anyway, I think that is what we all have to do.
So I mean god bless you for your efforts I'm happy that you're out and and it's obviously disgrace what happened but at least now the truth is coming out right at least we're seeing What is done to people who dissent from the narrative that they allow us to speak?
But only part of the footage has come out.
Dude, it's a drop in the bucket of the 40,000 hours worth of footage.
Where's Speaker Johnson?
Where is this guy?
So they can send money to Ukraine?
They can allow the FBI to spy on us?
They can literally extend FISA, which is totally unconstitutional, but they can't release the J6 footage like he promised to do?
Give me a break!
These people don't care about us.
That's why I'm running for Congress.
Because the American people need real representation in the House of Representatives and in the government.
And right now, they don't have it.
Amen to all of that.
Look, I know you got a run.
You said you got another interview.
Tell people where they can go to follow you to get the truth about you and everything you stand for.
Sure.
They can follow me on X or Twitter, at America Shaman.
That's America Shaman, at America Shaman on Twitter.
You can also go to my website.
ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com.
That's ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com.
We've got all sorts of merch.
We've got my book.
We've got all sorts of free courses, free podcasts, free interviews you can listen to.
You can also go to my website, ShamanForCongress.com.
That's ShamanForCongress.com.
And on ShamanForCongress.com we have my campaign platform, which is a single bill voting law, an amendment for term limits for congressmen and staff, A criminalization of lobbying, seven-figure fines, expulsion, and prosecution for all Congress members caught insider trading.
There's also a bunch of my interviews that are up there.
There's also the reasons why these are important, why District 8 is falling apart, my About Me, and a number of resources and stuff that you can access to help me spread the word.
Really cool, man.
Really cool.
Thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for being part of this thing.
Really great to have you.
Thank you.
Very nice to meet you, too.
Let's give it up, folks, for the American Shaman!
Can we hear one round of applause for the American Shaman, folks?
Let's go.
Let's go.
Thank you so much.
We can keep going.
I know you got to run.
We'll keep going for a little bit here because we got a good audience on the stream.
So I figure we keep going.
Really cool, by the way.
Thank you to Rav.
For hosting the stream, for getting us up.
Ava, so you've never been to an AmericaFest, and Craig Vermont, First Turning Point as well?
Yes, yeah!
So we just did the walk-in, Whirlwind, the whole event is actually just getting started.
I'd love to hear the first impressions of someone who's not been at one of these before.
Was this what you expected at all, or what?
In a way, yes.
I mean, I feel extremely European right now.
So what do you mean by that?
I mean, this is America as, you know, I imagine it.
The greatness of America.
Go big or go home.
Even in your politics, everyone's excited.
People are fired up, you know.
They're out there and they've come in such vast numbers.
We don't have anything like this in Europe, you know.
Really?
Stages like this like pop concert style, you know with flashing lights and smoke, you know tonight So tonight they've got I think four or five different acts that are going to be performing tonight musically and Okay, I'm not supposed to say this yet, you know, so events team I didn't say it publicly, but okay, I am saying it publicly, that I did kind of get a sneak preview of the opening ceremony last night.
And which I just have because we were we have any what we so every every day at a time before we do an event.
I always I like to walk the walk, right?
I like to walk the space before it opens.
You also talk to talk.
Yeah.
And I get a feel for what it's gonna be like and kind of get ready.
And we happen to be walking into the stage area right as they were doing the sound test for the overall opening event.
And the opening, and it's a ceremony.
That's what we understand.
It's an interactive multimedia ceremony of music and video and Americana and like a light display that's 360 degrees all the way around you.
Totally immersive.
Part of it's recorded, part of it's live.
They kind of mix that back and forth.
There's performers.
They're going to be so mad that I'm saying this publicly, but it's amazing.
It's going to be here in about five minutes.
Okay, awesome.
Everyone will be able to see that on the main live stream.
And I don't even want to stream over them, so I'm not going to overstream it.
But it's really, really cool.
And it's kind of like this ain't your grandpa's political convention.
Clearly, yes.
And I feel like that in general.
We've been talking about this, right?
Something has shifted in the world.
It's not... I mean, obviously, we're still the dissidents, we're still counter-cultural, but we're not the silent minority or majority anymore in a sense that, you know, it's like, oh, it's a fringe movement of a few people.
No, it's like, we're the cool ones, you know?
This is where you have to be.
And I think it's just awesome.
I think we need to start at Turning Point Europe.
Charlie, call me.
Well, it's like we've got, I mean, look, you know, we have, and we have people here that aren't necessarily conservatives, too.
Right.
We've got Patrick Bet-David.
We've got sort of the anti-communists have a huge setup here.
We've got Christians who have groups here.
So it's not just politics.
Right, so you've got people here from the business community, you've got people here, Tucker will be here of course, everyone knows, you've got people from media, you've got people from entertainment, and I think it's because we can all feel that boot on the neck of this totalitarian, censorious regime to the point where, and I, you know,
I've said this all week that, you know, last Sunday I find myself on an X Spaces with, you know, Alex Jones on one side and Elon Musk on the other.
Who would have thought a few years ago, right?
One year ago!
Yeah, even one year ago.
You're right.
You said one year ago that I'm going to be doing this live space and Vivek Ramaswamy is running for president was there.
And just all that, everyone knows all the names.
But the point is, is that something is going on in this movement to create moments like that and to create energy like that.
And I'll tell you something, I don't see anything like this on the left.
I don't see anything like this in any other movement on anywhere in the West.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think, I mean, can we safely say that we're back?
Are we back?
Let's take a look at the stage.
After the opening ceremony, you tell me.
After the opening ceremony, you tell me whether or not we're back.
Because I'm thinking we might be, but I'm not 100% sure yet.
We'll see.
Now, have you had a chance to look at the agenda yet?
The overall, the speakers list, the breakout sessions?
Because it's incredible to me that, and I'm sure the first thing you think of when you look at it is, it seems overwhelming.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Like, everyone's here.
What I say this to Charlie is, there's no possible way for one person to go through AmericaFest and, like, actually see everything, or do everything.
And so you're constantly... But you want to!
You want to, but you have to kind of pick and choose what your, you know, choose your own adventure, like what your path through the event will be.
Now, obviously, you'll be there on Tuesday when Ava and I are speaking.
Right.
There's no choices that day.
No going home early, guys.
But, well, we've got a huge, a sack day, too, because we've got, we've got Prager and we've got Ted Cruz holding it down on Tuesday with us.
So that's going to be a huge day.
Yep.
And this goes all the way through then.
So tonight is, is Patrick Bet David, which is going to be huge.
And Roseanne Barr, the comedian, the canceled comedian is making her triumphant return.
She'll be here.
We're trying to get her to sit down, but she's, you know how she is, you know how she is.
Right, right, right.
We'll try and pin her down.
We're gonna try to pin her down.
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My favorite comedian in the whole world, Roseanne Barr.
Roseanne, how are you?
I'm great.
I've had a wonderful time here.
Welcome to AmericaFest.
Now, is this your first turning point?
No, it's my first turning point that I spoke at.
Okay, so you attended one before?
Yeah, I did.
I attended a couple years ago.
It was wonderful.
And, you know, wanted to come back.
It was, like, just on point with everything I care about.
And I'm just so glad to see all these young people here.
Isn't it?
You know, you're just overwhelmed thinking that young people are that smart.
Because, you know, they've got us kind of scared that they're not smart, but they are.
Well, they're running so many programs on the youth right now.
They're always targeting the youth.
They're always targeting them through TikTok.
They use celebrities, not like you, the other celebrities.
And they run, it's like Pied Piper operations to get them going along.
I think And I've said this, I've taken a lot of crap for this online.
I think they're using Taylor Swift right now.
They're gearing up for an operation to use Taylor Swift in the election against everything against Trump, for Biden.
They're going to get her and all, you know, they call them the Swifties.
They're going to turn those into voters.
You watch.
No, I think that's what they're doing too.
She's definitely somebody who's consented to speak the way the establishment wants to be spoken of.
And she has a lot of young girls.
More than anyone.
Yeah, and I think that's going to be the way they try to get on top of the next election.
Well, I think you're right.
So you came here, you saw the kids, 15,000 people at Turning Point, over 50% of that under the age of 30.
In the majority of those are even under the age of 20.
There's high school kids.
Tell me, what was it like being up on that stage, being able to speak for the first time?
It was pretty exciting.
I came out and gave my wrestler, I kind of did a wrestler hold.
I saw you were cutting promos.
You're cutting promos.
You know, producer Faz used to work with Pro Wrestling.
You know that, right?
I kind of knew that.
You knew that.
I thought it was kind of a cool thing to do.
Yeah, it was cool.
And then I, you know, brought out my computer where I had my, you know, notes.
Yes.
And I accidentally erased them there.
No!
Yeah, I lost my whole speech.
You lost, it all got, it got sucked into the cloud.
Yeah, because I really have, I'm too old and have no business to ever be on the internet.
Because I always do something like that.
You're pretty good on Twitter, I gotta say though.
You're pretty good on Twitter.
I am pretty good on Twitter.
Well, if I don't have to send or hit open, but I can just do... That's why it's so good.
That's why it's so good.
No, so you're up there, and you gave, look, from my perspective, you gave a pretty barn burner of a speech.
You gave a real barn burner.
Well, I think that's why they wanted me to barn burn.
You know, they wanted to go viral and, you know, get people talking, and that's what I do best.
100%.
Get people talking.
And people should know the facts about the war we're in, because we are in a war.
And I say, and it is a religious war.
when we were down at your home and we did the podcast, that's what we talked about.
And we talked about how there's people who don't see the spiritual aspect of these things.
And I think they're missing a huge piece of what's going on.
And they say, "Oh, you know, it's ideological or it's financial." And sure, there's ideological and financial aspects, I believe it, but at its deepest root, At the deepest root, it's a spiritual war.
Yeah.
I think it's a religious war.
Not just spiritual.
So walk me through that.
What's going on?
Um, I think that, uh, you know, that, uh... So you got evil spirits coming at my microphone right now.
Yeah.
The way they targeted your laptop.
I think that, uh...
Yeah, I think that there is a devil and I do think he's declaring war on humanity.
Yes.
That's what I really think.
And do you believe that, and the Bible says this, that the devil is working through certain individuals, certain institutions to push his will in reality, in the real world?
Yeah, but he's He's working with everything.
When you said, you know, well, it's not just financial, it's not just cultural, it's not just... It's every single thing you can think of.
The human being is being bombarded by false information 24-7.
And how are you to make a righteous, you know, decision when you're being bombarded with false information?
Well, and the bombardment is part of the process.
It's part of the agenda.
It's part of the program.
Because in order for them to do that, you can't get the truth out.
Because they know the truth is powerful.
They can't deny the truth.
They can't refute the truth.
They can't debunk the truth.
So what do they do?
They just bombard you with crap.
They bombard you with total crap, and in order to do that, then it's blanketed.
Now, you go online, you go on X, you go on, or even worse, you go on one of those other social media platforms, you open up Google, and it's all lies.
It is all lies, but the point of it is to erase people's ability to have discernment for what is true.
Yes.
Because you've just gone back and forth so many times with the BS they're flinging at you, and it looks like everybody says it's good, so you have to go, oh, I consider it, then the next day it's bad.
It's a war on our minds and our ability to decipher truth.
So Roseanne, what's the antidote then?
What would you tell to our listeners?
Now, of course, anyone who's watching the show, they know they're already watching The Truth.
They're already switched on.
But we all have friends and we all have family members that are still caught in, you know, they're caught in a matrix.
You know, how do we get them out of that?
Well, I think how we get them out of that is that we've got to go all the way back, back, back, back, back to the original matrix, which is the Bible.
Wow.
We have got to go back to the real, original matrix that, you know, God wrote.
And hold on to that and hold fast and hold dear to it because we can't let them destroy that and that is what they're after and we can't let that happen.
We have to fight for everything we're worth because that is everything that is worth anything.
100%.
Did you see, and I have to ask you about this because I've been very vocal about it here, did you see this And we talked about it the last time we chatted.
We talked about the demonic.
We talked about Satan.
And suddenly we find that a satanic statue is being placed in America's heartland in a state capital in Iowa.
Now this becomes this huge debate and there's people saying, well, you know, First Amendment, we ought to leave that up there.
And then along comes And I gotta say, I love this guy.
Along comes a Navy veteran, an Irishman, he walks in there, and he chops the thing's head off.
He did?
I didn't hear this.
A guy walked in there, on his own, he said nobody was around, he walked up to that thing, he knocked it over with his two hands, picked up its head, tore it off, and threw it in a trash can.
He said, get out!
Oh my god.
Get out, Satan.
What do you think of that?
I love it.
I love this.
Don't you love it?
I love it so much.
And they're charging him with mischief.
There's an investigation into him now.
And I say, there's an investigation into him.
Shouldn't we be investigating the Satanists?
Yeah, they never, they never, they, they have us trained that we can never assign blame upward where it belongs.
We can only do it laterally to fight with our neighbor.
Cause they're training us to do the hunger games.
That's exactly right.
Except in the Hunger Games, it was like in an arena, right?
You know where the Hunger Games are now?
Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Israel.
So you see, to them, this is the Hunger Games.
And they want to get you clued in because all that death and all that destruction, you know who feeds off of that?
Their God.
That's Satan, right?
That's Satan, that's the demons, they're all triggered into it.
Their God is that God.
Their God is a demon.
Wow.
Well, we know that, right?
Yes, you're exactly right.
We all know that.
Because what they're doing is, walk us through it, it's hatred, it's bitterness, it's evil.
Yeah, it's anything bereft of fact.
Anything that despises provable fact is not good in any way.
Anything that's pro-slavery is not good in any way either, right?
It's not good at all.
I'm asking everybody about this, so I have to ask.
You've been here in Phoenix a few days, right?
Have you seen the robot taxis?
I did.
What do you think of the robot taxis?
I thought it was cool, but then it was freaky.
It's so freaky.
Because you don't know if they're going to run.
They said they won't run over you, but I don't know.
I don't buy it.
They could go over you.
One of them cut me off.
It did?
So I rented a car, so I'm not doing taxis, but we were driving from, we've got another studio where we do some stuff, and then we were driving here to the convention center at AmericaFest, and one of them bangs a U-turn, dangerous U-turn, illegal, right in the middle of the road.
Cuts off everybody.
We all have to slam on the brakes and do this.
I said, one of these things, they're going to run over some kid.
But what's even, what I think the danger is.
Introducing chaos.
More of the chaos thing.
And you know what it does to that?
Even if, so even if it's safe.
Even if it's safe.
Let's say, let's stipulate that they're 100% safe.
Maybe safer than regular drivers, right?
Because they'll say, oh, well, regular drivers get into accidents.
Regular drivers have mishaps.
But then I say, but you know what regular drivers have?
Human control.
Yeah, no kidding.
Thank you.
A human being is controlling that.
So I get behind in the seat of this thing, now a robot's controlling me.
Now an AI is controlling me.
Now an autonomous algorithm, which is totally subservient to Klaus Schwab and George Soros and all of the thought controllers.
Now, what if I say I want to go somewhere, but I get into the thing and it says, Or you've been a very bad person, Jack.
You've been a very bad person, Rosanne.
You've used too many carbon credits today.
Yes, right.
And then it won't let you go anywhere.
And then they'll say, oh no, you can't ride the car.
Or I want to go someplace.
It is what it is.
Or I want to go to Turning Point USA.
And they say, Turning Point USA, you cannot go to Turning Point USA.
And they won't let you go there.
Because that's a hate convention.
That's a misinformation convention.
And I just, I start thinking.
Well, we're not far off.
It's already here.
We know that.
That's what they'll do.
Yeah.
And then what happens if they are in control of all the cars?
You know what it is?
Because this would happen during COVID.
We talk about freedom of speech and we talk about freedom of religion, both of which are under attack.
But there's one freedom that we actually lost under COVID.
We don't even think about it because we take it for granted.
You know what that is?
What?
Freedom of motion.
Freedom of mobility.
Our freedom to travel one place to another.
You came here today.
You probably came on an airplane, right?
No, I drove.
Oh, you drove.
Wow.
Okay, you drove.
Well, you're Texas, right?
How long is that drive?
Well, we drove from L.A.
Oh, you're in L.A.
That's about, what, six?
Yeah, six.
That's still a drive.
That's still a bit of a drive.
No, I have some friends who drove, actually, as well, from L.A.
But even still, you could have taken a plane if you wanted to, right?
What happens When they take away freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of motion, right?
What freedoms do we have left?
Well, we definitely are lacking in the freedom of speech category, which is why we have a second amendment.
That's right.
Because if freedom of speech fails, we need a second amendment.
That's exactly right.
So I want everybody to think about that.
You activate it.
When you lose the first one, you activate the second.
So Roseanne, we've got a couple of minutes left here.
Let's tell people, look, we know what the dangers are.
We know what the threats are.
Everyone here at AmericaFest is talking about it.
What do we do?
How do we, as individuals, we're here meeting.
It's right before Christmas.
It's right before New Year's.
We're going into 2024.
I say this is like the pregame to the battle of 2024.
How do we fight back and how do we win?
Well, we have to take what they made illegal in 2012 when I ran for president was I feel like they made small government, local government illegal.
And I could go into that for a long time, but I won't.
But I think it's imperative that everyone take back They're local governments, starting at the school board, starting at every level of your own community.
Petition, go there, talk to them, get everybody, you know, all your representatives, get everybody together for a summit to decide how you are going to get paper ballots, And voter ID before the next election, because without them we won't have a fair election.
And that will be bad for what they call our democracy.
Even they have to admit it.
A stolen election isn't good for democracy.
So on both sides of both parties, I ask the American people and 24, please Get active in your local community government and make sure that we get paper ballots and voter ID so we can have a fair election.
I think that's what I care about the most and it won't happen without the American people doing it on the local level.
That's what Trump was all about.
That's what MAGA is all about.
We make America great again.
We don't just sit there waiting for somebody to come do it for us.
We make America great again ourselves.
I love that.
harnessing the levers of power from people who have stolen it from us, take it back and do what we need to do to preserve this union and this constitutional republic.
I love that.
I love getting involved at a local level because that's something everyone can do.
They'll say, look, if you can do something nationally, if you can work on a campaign, that's great, that's awesome.
But you know what everyone can do?
Get involved locally.
You can evolve your own town.
And especially, I say this too, if you're in one of these states, and, you know, I gotta put my politician hat on, right?
My political operative hat.
that there are several key states.
Arizona is one of them.
Texas is one of them.
My home state of Pennsylvania is one of them.
Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia.
There's a few others.
These are the key states that the entire election is going to come down to.
Yeah.
Talk to us.
Those are the states that they always steal it from.
A hundred percent.
And here we are and we find ourselves in Maricopa County.
Yeah.
And that's why we hold AmericaFest in Maricopa County because we know this is where the steal took place.
This was ground zero.
And that was, do you remember election night of 2020?
When all of a sudden they said Maricopa County has gone Democrat and Joe Biden has taken Arizona.
How did you feel when you heard that?
Well, I love Carrie Lake, so I was infuriated.
I was infuriated on behalf of Carrie Lake and all the voters, especially when we heard that it was the Republican districts that the voting machines didn't work and malfunctioned in.
I mean, how bald-faced are they in their criminality and nobody does anything about it?
And the people waiting, they went home.
Because they heard the machines are down, they went home.
They're not going to wait in those lines four hours, five hours, they went home.
And so how many, it's not about the ballots that were cast, it was how many ballots were supposed to be cast that couldn't be cast because the machines broke.
And I sit there, I'm sitting there with Charlie and everybody, I said, Mike Lindell was right!
Yeah, he was.
He was 100% right.
You've got to get rid of those machines, because if we can get rid of them, as you say, we go back to the paper ballots, we go back to the way it was intended, one person, one vote, election day, not election week, and month, and it has to be citizens.
It has to be citizens.
Walk us through the stakes.
Now tell us, have you come out and made an official endorsement yet For 2024.
Well, I'm all in for Trump.
Everybody knows that.
She's all in for Trump.
I'm all in for Trump.
I thought everybody already knew that, but yeah, I'm all in.
I know, but she's got to say it.
She's got to say it.
I'm all in for Trump, 24.
I think that he will win a third time.
Three, baby.
Three, Pete.
Three, Pete.
That's what they call it.
The three, Pete.
And we all love him and pray for his strength and his, you know, just for his great sanity at the crap he's having to take.
I just can't believe what they're trying to do, what Joe Biden is trying to do to his leading opponent.
I mean, this isn't even America.
It's never been this ugly.
I can't believe it.
They're trying to take him out politically and legally the way Hollywood took you out.
Of Hollywood by running a hit job on you.
That was an assassination.
That was assassination.
They ran a Hollywood assassination.
They did another, a digital assassination to Alex Jones, which they did on all of the platforms.
Elon brought him back, which I think is great.
And now they're trying to attempt, and I think this, I think, and I'll ask you, I'll ask you.
A lot of people have said this.
Do you think that Donald Trump Do you think they may try to take him out with a physical assassination?
Well, you know, if you read a lot of stuff on the internet, it says that they've already tried that a number of times.
Well, we know.
We know publicly it's been tried a number of times.
And you see the motorcade when he goes around.
You see the Secret Service.
That's not there for no reason.
That's not there for an ex-president either, you know that right?
There's some interesting takes on that.
We won't do it today.
I don't think that President Trump would ever abandon the people, the more than 80 million people who voted for him.
I think he still has our back.
He still has our back.
We've got his.
We've got yours, Roseanne.
Where can people follow you?
Where can they see the podcast?
You can see it wherever they have podcasts, but I'm on Rumble, and I'm on YouTube, and I'm... She's everywhere, folks.
She's everywhere.
I think I'm on Apple Podcasts.
Where else?
Everywhere there's a podcast, there I am.
Final message for everyone as we go into 2024.
Well, as hard as it is for you to do, and it's hard for me to, try to love your neighbors even if they don't agree with you.
Try to talk to them with dignity.
Try to hear each other.
Listen to them even though they sound crazy, but let it in just a little to think about it.
Try to love more, and try to hate less, and try to pray more too.
Try to have more faith.
Try to have more certainty that our President Trump wouldn't just have left us here in the wilderness.
The power of prayer.
You heard it here, folks.
Roseanne Barr.
Let's give it up for Roseanne, everyone!
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
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