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EPISODE 625: DESANTIS SHAMELESSLY CLAIMS TRUMP APPROVED SATANIC PRACTICES IN THE IOWA STATE HOUSE

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President Biden says it is time for Israel to change its approach in the war in Gaza or risk losing global support.
Yeah, well, Biden has consistently pledged unwavering U.S.
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He said yesterday the, quote, indiscriminate bombing of Gazans is not sitting well with much of the world.
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Yes, to me, a soft landing is the economy continues to grow, the labor market remains strong and inflation comes down.
The amount of energy and money and time and public attention, all of which are precious commodities, So it's interesting.
I heard this and then I was like, well, how did it get there?
Is that even a religion?
It's like the moonshot.
In fact, they've expended more resources on destroying Trump than they did on getting a man. - So it's interesting.
I heard this and then I was like, well, how did it get there?
Is that even a religion?
And lo and behold, the Trump administration gave them approval to be under the IRS as a religion.
So that gave them the legal ability to potentially do it.
So I don't know what the legislature, how they analyzed it, but it very well may be because of that ruling under Donald Trump that they may have had a legal leg to stand on.
My view would be that's not a religion that the Founding Fathers were trying to create.
But I do think that IRS ruling, I was really surprised to see that they did that.
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Today is December 13th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
There you hear the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, shamelessly, shamelessly claiming that President Trump Somehow is responsible for giving approval for the display of satanic practices in the Iowa Statehouse.
Now, to understand the politics of this, DeSantis is endorsed by the governor of Iowa.
The governor of Iowa.
This is her state.
This is her statehouse.
She is the one who has continued to allow this abomination to continue in America's heartland.
She has stood idly by.
And rather than hold a politician to account, what does Ron DeSantis do?
Ron DeSantis points the finger at his political opponents shamelessly.
By the way, Ron DeSantis, you have to understand, I'm trying to do you a favor here.
I'm trying to help you out.
I'm trying to help you in your political standing.
If you want to do the right thing, You should be walking into the Iowa Statehouse with a sledgehammer right now.
You might actually win the Iowa Caucuses, Ron DeSantis, if you walked into the Iowa Statehouse with a sledgehammer right now and took down this abomination.
So why don't you do that?
Take whatever little bit of money you have left, fly out to Iowa.
You might have to take the bus.
I understand Greyhound tickets have gone up due to Bidenflation.
Go down, get yourself a sledgehammer.
That's the one that's got the flat end on both sides.
It's not a pointy end.
That one's called an axe, just so you know.
And then walk in there.
And do what needs to be done.
But here at Human Events Daily, we are organizing the largest call-in campaign in history.
Everyone within the sound of my voice, it is incumbent upon you.
Call in to the State House immediately.
Call to the Governor.
Be respectful.
Be firm and reach out to them and tell them to take down this anti-Christian demonic display.
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We're being respectful.
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But we're not backing down.
We want that satanic abomination taken out of there.
Someone who knows about removing abominations from places where they don't belong is our next guest, Dr. Taylor Marshall.
You know, Taylor, when I first really, I guess, heard of you or you first, you know, kind of came across my radar, it was because of the Pachamama situation which was going on in the Vatican.
Why don't you remind people what that was real quick?
Yes, so several years ago, there was this kind of idol called the Pachamama, Amazonian South American, basically a mother goddess.
And it was set up in the Vatican.
Several of them were set up in Vatican and a group of us worked together to remove them from the Vatican.
And they were thrown into the Tiber River in Rome and they floated away.
It was pretty awesome.
So, yeah, I mean, we as Christians don't... Yeah, it was great.
And we as Christians need to realize that we are in a spiritual war.
We have to take up space and our enemies are also trying to take up space.
And in particular, the Satanists, the atheists, they want to take up space at the courthouse, at the public library with all kinds of reading sessions.
You know what I'm talking about.
Baseball parks.
The L.A.
Dodgers, they realize that the way you win a cultural award, you take up space in public.
And Christians, some Christians are just sort of thinking, well, you know, freedom of speech, freedom.
And I kind of want to talk about that today, the limits of freedom of speech, the limits of freedom of expression, because there is no carte blanche, absolute freedom of speech.
And there's no carte blanche, absolute freedom of religion.
There are limits to these things.
Yes, exactly, and so this is where I think that the DeSantis campaign is in full-on spin mode.
Kim Reynolds, the governor there, is in full-on spin mode, and I called for her to take this down, and she could order the police to do it right now.
She could order the police to do it right now, and when you're calling in here today on the largest calling campaign in history, Ask them.
Say, Governor Reynolds, we're not attacking you.
We're just asking you to do your job and have this thing removed.
Order the state troopers to go in and do this.
By the way, so, she says it's a freedom of speech issue.
Ron DeSantis tried to blame it on Trump and he's blaming the IRS code and all this stuff.
Like, yeah, Trump came up with the IRS code.
And all of the rulings that have led to that.
It's ridiculous.
Completely insane.
And what you're talking about here, though, is actually it's not freedom of speech.
It's about freedom of religion as supported by the state government of Iowa.
So no, it is not a federal, right?
It's not a federal situation.
It is a state situation.
And under state constitution of Iowa, it says that Iowa believes that the world was created by the supreme being.
That's what Iowa's constitution states all the way back from the 1850s.
And there's been numerous lawmakers down there in Iowa that say this is unconstitutional based on the state constitution of Iowa itself.
And then under federal law, this would not follow under the establishment clause of establishing religion.
It would fall under the 10th amendment, which holds that powers not expressly given to the government are held by the states.
So the state government has full authority.
The state governor has full authority under the U.S.
Constitution and the Iowa Constitution to have this thing removed.
And I'm so sorry because all of the spin doctors out there want to play games on this.
But no, you have full authority and you always have.
It's just because we have this new stripe of... And what is this?
Taylor, maybe you can help me explain this.
Why is it that in the Christian West, We seem so terrified of actually standing up for our beliefs.
Well, ever since the 1950s, since World War II, this idea that we tolerate all things and that is the Christian way.
It's heretical.
It's a heresy.
That is not what Christians have believed for 2,000 years.
You remember our Lord Jesus Christ wove together a whip and drove the money changers out of the temple.
We are not a pacifist, and we are not a tolerate all evil religion.
And if you flip the tables on this, and we had a Christian display that was mocking Islam, In mocking, I don't know, Muhammad or the Quran, you know that the authorities would get involved and remove it.
And as you mentioned, the Iowa Constitution, the Supreme Being... Mocking the Torah?
There are limits to freedom of speech.
Like, I cannot go out in the world and say certain things in the United States of America.
Illegal, hate speech, assault, all these kind of things.
So there are limits to speech and there are also limits to freedom of religion, right?
Worshipping Satan is a subversion, it is an inversion, and it's a mockery of Christianity, right?
These people aren't really wanting, they don't really believe Satan is the supreme being or the God of the universe.
This is them mocking Christianity, and it has to be removed.
It must be removed.
And this idea that we have absolute freedom of religion is false.
Just like we don't have absolute freedom of speech.
There are limits to these freedoms.
And it might be kind of hard for people to hear, but that's how everybody thinks and believes that way.
And here's a point too, and you're right, there have been Supreme Court cases on freedom of speech as well.
That whole shouting fire in a crowded theater, it was at one point illegal, then it came back and they said, well, only if it's actually false or done with malice.
It has been a contentious issue.
But on the question of religion here, It's it's very clear.
It's so very clear because what Satan and now number one Okay, the first tier of this is that these you're right.
These are not actual Satanists This is a left-wing group that exists and they tell you very publicly say we're not Satanists We don't teach kids to worship Satan.
That's what they say.
They just say that we are attempting to short-circuit and troll basically Christians by messing around with your laws and trying to pervert your laws invert them and To serve our purposes and we know that using satanic imagery triggers you.
Okay, that's their stated purpose.
They are a left-wing atheist group.
They are actually a Marxist group.
And under that standard, they're not a religion to begin with.
And so what are they doing with this?
And it's been under great effect because so many conservatives and so many leaders around the country have not actually looked at the words of the Constitution or studied.
And this is something that's interesting because I know, in addition to your theological work, you're also a proud supporter of our Second Amendment here in this country.
And in Second Amendment jurisprudence, going back to Heller and then reaffirmed last year in Bruin, there is a new test that has come up and it's called the Text
History and tradition test that has been put forward in the uh in the Supreme Court and in these rulings and this was only reaffirmed in 2022 so this is new and not a lot of people know about this that up to now and really with the Supreme Court picks that we have because of Donald Trump that now sit there if she were to challenge this and they were to try to fight it on constitutional grounds I guarantee you
That they would lose because we are now reverting back to the constitutional authority of originalism.
The words mean what they mean at the time they were written.
At the time they were written, religion did not include things like this.
So what are the Satanists doing?
The Satanists are saying, okay, we want exemptions to heartbeat bills in Texas because we're going to claim that abortion is a satanic ritual, which they've done.
And then the really widespread one, And I know you focus on this a lot, Taylor, as well, is they're setting up these after-school programs in public schools and demanding equal access and to be paid.
In my home state of Pennsylvania, the ACLU sued the school district.
The school district settled $200,000.
So they're getting huge backers because they found a way.
This has turned into a cash cow for the left and all the usual suspects are getting involved.
Yeah, and I think we need to ask ourselves, is it permissible and is it opportunistic for conservatives to pretend that the public space is neutral?
I know we've been experimenting with that for the last several centuries, and it worked out pretty well while the populace is God-fearing, while the populace is practicing the true faith.
Once you start slipping into secularism, they can use all these tricks of the after-school programs, abortion as a satanic sacrament, and now monuments in public places to a made-up religion that is subverting or trying to subvert Christianity by exalting the great villain of sacred scripture, Satan himself.
So, I think we need to As Christians, and there's two issues here.
There's the political, and I think everything you're doing, Jack, is right on point.
Make this the biggest call-in on ever.
Put tremendous pressure on the government and everyone in charge here.
But also, I believe Christians watching at home need to ask ourselves, can we do a better job of taking up space in the public arena?
Or, I mean, it looks like the Satanists are trying a lot harder than most Christians, and that's an indictment on us.
I think that's exactly right.
We have to take up space.
We need to be out there.
Where are the protesters?
I was told this is Iowa.
I was told this was the land of the evangelical Christians.
I'm urging people, go out there.
Protest this thing.
Come together.
Stand up for your beliefs.
Take up space.
Catholics, organize rosary marches.
Organize everything.
March around this thing seven times, blowing horns around the Iowa State Capitol, which is currently being defiled by the satanic abomination.
You talk about influences.
These are influences.
And they're friends of mine.
Jack Posobiec.
Where's Jack?
Jack.
He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Posobiec back here.
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Our guest here is Dr. Taylor Marshall.
He's talking about the importance of Christians taking up space.
And Taylor, you've written a book on this.
Taylor, you've written a book on this.
You've talked about sort of the recession, I would say, the retreat of Western Christianity, where people have just gotten so far.
You've talked about sort of the recession, I would say, the retreat of Western Christianity.
Where people have just gotten so far.
So they get knocked out of the public square in the 1960s.
So they get knocked out of the public square in the 1960s.
And I'm actually going to be recording an episode all about that for over the Christmas break.
And I'm actually going to be recording an episode all about that for over the Christmas break.
Spoiler alert, folks.
Spoiler alert, folks.
And then they just sort of find a way of coping and say, well, it's okay.
We're just going to stay within our churches.
We're going to stay within our parishes.
But nothing that we say here affects what goes on outside.
Of course, this was started by none other than JFK himself, because when he was trying to get elected, the first thing he said was, my Catholic faith will not influence my political decisions.
And then this is the same type of watered-down, you know, Catholic-in-name-only type of faith that you get from Joe Biden, where they will say, oh, he goes every week, you know, he goes and receives communion, but he doesn't actually do anything to live out his faith.
So what has gone wrong with Catholics and just, you know, any Christian Well, it actually goes back to the 1800s.
where we don't think that we have to actually apply our beliefs anymore.
Well, it actually goes back to the 1800s.
There is a steady infiltration in the universities, in the seminaries, in all the public sphere, especially in politics, that we can all be neutral, we can all go along and get along, and that we should leave our faith and our convictions at home and and that we should leave our faith and our convictions at home and go into and everything will be neutral, everything will be fair.
Now that's not the case.
You know, you look at what you have to go through during June at your corporate job, You look at what's going on in major cities, blue cities, you look at what's going on in public schools, you look at what's going on in libraries, you realize that the left, the satanists, the communists, they don't play by the same rules that we do.
I mean, generally, I mean, there's, of course, bad Christians and bad conservatives out there, but generally, we try to live by a fair and upstanding mode of life.
But they will manipulate the laws and they will manipulate the public arena To fight us, to undermine us, and to take away our rights, our freedoms, our liberties.
And that's really what's happened.
And I think we've largely, especially in the 60s, 70s, 80s, fell asleep.
And I think it's a time for us to wake up and reassert our Christian identity, not just our conservative, but our Christian identity in the public eye.
I mean, that has to do with Christmas, too.
You know, is this Happy Holidays?
Is this Merry Christmas?
Is this Jesus Christ?
Or is this, you know, Santa Claus?
And let's go back here, too, because let's go back here to a little bit in, you know, from the 1800s, let's go back to the 1700s when the states were ratified, when the Bill of Rights was ratified, the First Amendment.
We always had public displays of Christmas throughout state capitals.
This was very well accepted.
And as a matter of fact, for all the way up for almost 150 years, all the way into the 20th century, we even had blasphemy laws on the books.
state after state.
And none of that was seen as in contrivance.
No Supreme Court justice all the way up into the 1900s started saying that that might be against the First Amendment because they saw it as, again, the expressive freedom of religion.
There was no right to commit blasphemy found anywhere in the First Amendment.
It's just simply not there.
But because we have gotten, and I will give, you know what, and I'll give Ron DeSantis credit because he actually did say, even after he blamed this whole thing on Trump and found some weird, you know, the timing of the IRS tax code decision to say, to say that it was Trump's fault, he did actually correctly say that Satanism was not one of the religions that was intended to be protected by the First Amendment, by the framers.
We've gotten so far away from that line of thinking. - Absolutely, and we need to assert that very loudly.
Every single Christian in America should be asserting that, calling in, and we, as we said in the first segment, we must take up space.
Do you have a crush in front of your house?
Are you saying Merry Christmas?
Right?
Are you doing the, you look at the Satanist and you're upset, but are you doing a The equivalent of what we would call sharing our faith, proclaiming the gospel, and then also doing good deeds to help and minister to other people who need charity.
That's what we should be doing, especially during December as Christians.
So, you know, I just released a new book.
It's about the historic Real Santa Claus.
And I think if we focus on what Christians have been doing historically when it comes to helping the most vulnerable, We can win this cultural war.
I mean, it's we Christians have done it before in centuries.
It's up and down.
We can do this.
So let's go back into our roots.
Let's go back into our traditions.
Let's go back to scripture and and let's strengthen ourselves and and take up space for Christ.
And we have this wonderful history of amazing Christians that lived throughout the centuries that preceded us, and I think that it's so great that you're putting this book out because I feel like people, a lot of the time, especially in America, especially when I talk to American Christians,
I feel that so many people kind of outside of TLM, outside of the Latin Mass, they've gotten away from, or in many cases haven't even heard of some of these amazing Christian heroes that have lived throughout time before they came.
So tell me a little bit about the new book and how you're doing the work of bringing the true story of St.
Nicholas back to us.
Yeah, so the new book is called Nikolaos, which is the original Greek name of St.
And it's number one bestseller and Christian fantasy and young adult history.
And Nicolaus is the legendary ancient story of St.
Nicholas, which is about a man who loses everything.
And he has three daughters and he's tempted to sell them into prostitution.
Remember, this is ancient Roman culture.
And Nicholas is a Christian pastor.
This is the historical version.
And through a bunch of miracles and interventions, he ends up being able to redeem these three girls from sex trafficking, from prostitution.
And so I took that ancient story of the historical St.
Nicholas, who becomes Santa Claus in American culture, but I wanted to show who the real Nicholas was.
And so I recreated and retold that story in a historical fiction format.
And so if you wanna know who the real Nicholas was and you wanna read a fun Christmas novel, check out my new book.
It's called "Nicolaus." You can get it on amazon.com and it's the retelling of the real story of Santa Claus, St. Nicholas. - And this is so amazing.
You've done these before, and I think, I remember the last time we were talking, it was Sword and Serpent, and you were saying that you had originally intended them as sort of a young adult novel series, but you ended up expanding it and writing it so long and finding that so many people were into the story.
That was St.
George.
And that actually adults and kids and people were reading it to their families and people were sharing it because, again, You know, you might go get some like textbook definition of, oh yeah, I know it's about St.
George and he fought a dragon and there's a bunch of, you know, the English have them on their flag, et cetera, et cetera.
But that's, that's pretty much all you get.
Or St.
Nick, you know, you, you might think about there's something about shoes and something about bags through the window and that, but that's all they know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I love these, you know, I have eight children and I tell all these bedtime stories and You know, over time, you know, I like to introduce historical, real Christian people, you know, people from church history and tell those stories and maybe embellish them and make them fun and, you know, make the kids laugh.
And all those bedtime stories have turned into this sort of series of books that I put out that people love.
They're bestsellers and people read them as families and young adults.
Older people and grandparents and it's just been really fun.
You know, I've been working on these for 10 years and people continue to buy them and like them.
So this is the brand new when it came out.
This week, and it's kind of a Christmas, it's kind of cut up by the fire with some cookies and some hot chocolate, and read this story about the real St.
Nicholas.
And this book takes place in the year of our Lord, 299, and it highlights what we know about the real Nicholas, but also with some fun details and storytelling.
So get a copy of it, you know, this Advent, December, you can snug it up with your family or by yourself.
And read a fun Christmas story about a really wonderful Christian man, St.
Nicholas, and how he helped the most vulnerable during his time.
He really did do that.
That's so amazing, and I've got my flight out to AmFest later this week, actually later today, so I might have to get myself a copy and crack it open on the plane.
By the way, you know, now that I mention, yeah, I'm an e-book guy, I travel so much, it just is what it is, but you know, now that we're, since we haven't got a minute left, everyone needs to go get this copy of Niklaus, but you know, I might as well just ask you, point blank, yes, no, you know, there's some people who say that actually the Bamafet statue is No, no.
is appropriate because Christian, like all the holidays, has a pagan origin.
Is that true, Dr. Marshall? - No, no.
I have a book called Eternal City, and I also have another book called God's Birthday, and it explains that historically there is very good reason to believe that Christ was born in late December and that he was born late December 1 B.C.
So, if you want to learn more about that, you can get my book, Eternal City.
It's a book about church history, but it goes through everything we know on the left and on the right, and all kinds of debates, and makes some pretty good conclusions that people will be interested.
They'll check it out.
It has to do with the temple service in Zechariah, and when he was serving, and if you follow You know, if you follow it all the way down, it actually calculates, and then people will say, oh, but what about the sheep?
Are the sheep out in Bethlehem in December?
And I said, how much time you spent in the Middle East, right?
It's still, it's plenty warm for sheep.
I'm in Texas, and I'm at the, I've been to Bethlehem.
Texas is like the same latitude as Bethlehem, and it's pretty warm here right now in December.
I've been to Bethlehem in December.
It's plenty warm.
I swam in the Dead Sea in Bethlehem in December.
Dr. Taylor Marshall, where can people go to follow you?
Go to taylormarshall.com or you can find me on YouTube at DrTaylorMarshall.
Thanks for having me on, Jack.
Merry Christmas, man.
And Jack, where is Jack?
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting Pulitzer's.
All right, Jack Pasovic, back here live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
Washington, D.C., but we are calling and we're conducting the largest call-in campaign to Iowa right now, the Iowa Statehouse, the site of the abomination, this unconstitutional, by the way, unconstitutional, under The Iowa State Constitution display of Satanism there in Iowa.
Everyone needs to call in.
Here's the number again, 515-281-5211.
As Taylor Marshall just told us, take up space.
It's time for Christians to take up space.
It's time for action, action, action.
It's time to say that we do have a say.
We're not going to let this stuff be neutral anymore.
It's not viewpoint neutral.
And I want to bring in our next guest here, Rich Barris.
Can I get you to weigh in, you know, if you want to weigh in on any of this about the Satanic Temple, but I actually threw out there, you know, having their thing in Iowa, I threw out there, I said, Ron DeSantis is playing this all wrong.
He doesn't understand that I'm trying to help him right now.
I said, don't go up there and start pointing fingers at Trump.
What you should, on CNN, by the way, of all places, right, going on to the network of the enemy to attack other Republicans, Insane.
Completely insane.
But I said, if you want to win the Iowa caucus, you may not win, but you certainly improve your standing quite a bit, get off of CNN, drive up to Iowa, grab a sledgehammer, walk into that thing, smash that to the ground, and guess what?
You're going to get a lot of support in Iowa.
Take the arrest, dude!
Take the arrest.
You could actually win something.
But this guy, he doesn't think that way.
He doesn't think that way.
And worse, I mean, Jack, that was taken as an attack.
You know, you said that they don't really see that I'm helping them.
That's been a big problem of the DeSantis campaign the entire time, even before it was a campaign.
They don't know the difference between constructive criticism and attacks, and they go scorched earth.
You know, I was like, uh, watching a meme the other day, and all I could think about was Garth Brooks, like, burning bridges, that song, Garth Brooks, that's what they're doing, you know?
And it's like, they've burned so many bridges, um, by, by reacting to people the way, I mean, they did to you, uh, I just don't know how they're gonna recover.
But, you know, the personal rich, you know, if I take my pundit hat off, you know, personal rich says, that's not freedom of religion, because, Satan is anti-religion.
Being a Satan worshipper is not- you're not really supposed to have freedom to do that.
You know, I'm just saying, because if- thinking from a theocracy point of view, or not even- theocratically, I guess.
You know, he's anti-God, he was anti- Religion, so I don't know how that falls under freedom of religion.
But Rich, let's talk about that for a second, too, because this is part of the new Supreme Court's test, which is essentially the originalist test.
And there's so many people who still think that it's like the 1970s standards, which was textual.
And textual meant, well, whatever the words of it say, we can read into it, and we can interpret things, and it's the living constitution.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
It emanates from the penumbra, and this is where we got abortion protection.
This was the essence of Dobbs, because they read protection for abortion into the Fourth Amendment.
It's just not there.
It's simply not there.
And in the same way, you must understand... Now, the originalism test, right?
The originalism test comes to us by way of the Second Amendment, and the Second Amendment decisions.
Now, these have been made, and people say, oh, poso, that only applies to the Second Amendment.
Then challenge the case!
The left doesn't think this way.
It's like the right tries to find reasons to not do anything, and you saw Ron DeSantis do that on stage last night.
It was not my fault, it's Trump's fault.
How about you do something, Governor?
Here's an obvious example of fighting back in the culture wars, and you're going to instead blame Donald Trump instead of actually taking action?
He does, by the way, say, and I'll give him credit, I said this already today, I'll give him credit for saying that this is not the type of religion that was meant to be protected when the first amendment is right about that's the same way that and that's the same way that's the same way that our laws are now being asked for our gun laws gun regulations are now being asked under this new it's called the text history and tradition test
uh tht that people that judges need to apply when it comes to these tests and it's isn't it ridiculous rich that we have to explain all this to people because in our there's there's just been this problem in our party where we feel that we're not allowed to use government to do anything and not even by the way not even to go to the level of pointing out that this is a state government so they are not bound by
Yeah, that's what the fight between, and I hate the expression the new right and the old traditionalist right.
I hate the expression the new right, Jack, because historically the new right is the historical right.
It's just that the Bush era really brought in this era of different kind of Republican thinking and this concept of limited government at home, expansive government abroad, and never use government to protect the rights of citizens or to, you and never use government to protect the rights of citizens or to, you know, even to exercise credible In order to protect someone's rights.
And that's a misinterpretation of what small government is.
Whoa!
Can't use government!
Can't use government!
Uh-oh!
Can't use government to do anything!
That's right.
No, you still have a government, right?
This is where, despite what the ANCAPs and the Libertarians would have you believe, no, we do still have a government.
It's called a limited constitutional republic.
And for over 150 years in this country, I keep harping on this, we had blasphemy laws, anti-blasphemy laws on the books in the states, because it was on, and I'm not advocating, people are like, oh, Posto's advocating for blasphemy laws.
He's getting one step closer to "Handmaid's Tale." I said, no, guys, that's not my point.
My point is under the original jurisprudence of the understanding of the First Amendment, nobody would have thought that a display like this, which is obviously an anti-Christian hate display, and the group describes themselves as such on their website, they say they're not a religion, we just hate Christians, that it would never have been included under the First Amendment originally as understood.
Jack, they were discussing the difference between the Anglican Church and the Congregationalists, and different factions of Christianity, and then also, especially when you get into your native state, Pennsylvania, that they were very concerned about people of Jewish faith.
You know, being barred from having posts in government, right?
So, they wanted to make sure that they were protected as well.
Nobody ever would have thought that they were protecting the rights of people to worship Satan because, again, and I said theocracy, I meant theologian hat, because, you know, that figure is the anti-religion figure.
So, our founders were very bright people and they just They would never have considered this because it doesn't make logical sense, you know, with their worldview.
So they never thought they would have had to explain this to people like us 250 years later, 300 years later.
That would never have dawned on them, Jack.
I mean, it really just wouldn't.
Are you dumb?
I mean, he's the fallen angel.
He's the anti-religion.
He's not religion.
He doesn't fall under that category.
Worship of him doesn't fall under that category.
The original motto of Satan, by the way, was do not serve.
Exactly.
He's literally the anti-worship, the anti-religion.
So you would never have sat down at a table with these guys and had this debate because they would have looked at you like you're the dumbest person on planet Earth.
It clearly is not what they were trying to accomplish.
It was very much, I mean think about how our country was founded, the people who came here.
First, of course, you had Congregationalists who were Puritans first, and, you know, there was strife in the old world between the New Church, the Anglican Church... I always say, by the way, I said this on Thanksgiving, by the way, and I got in a little bit of trouble, but I pointed out, I was like, look, you know, I know the Pilgrims, the Puritans, right?
These were the guys that even the British were like, whoa, you guys are a little too uptight, all right?
Even the British were like, You're too uptight, get out of the island, like, we can't deal with this.
So, yes, they are known for being a little bit strict when it comes to the application, a little bit literal when it comes to the application of Old Testament procedure.
Thou shalt not suffer a witch, right?
So, again, the idea was that the federal government would not pick and choose among these different religions The way that the Fed, which essentially was the federal government of England, had instituted the Church of England as the official church of the land.
That's all it meant.
And Virginia was very powerful, was a very powerful colony, and a lot of them were Anglicans, you know, they were... Anglican, yeah, of course.
Yeah, so they were afraid that, you know, Virginia could consolidate power against the Congregationalists up north, This is just basic US history.
You could really pun it.
You could lay the hammer down on Quakers who won't fight back.
I mean, this is what they were talking about.
That's what they were concerned about.
And the government- - This is just basic US history.
Anyone who's actually read anything about this era would understand this within two seconds.
You know, schat GPT, ask Grok on X, right, if you want to.
It'll tell you very quickly.
We are teaching everyone about the secret American history that has been stolen from you and the secret Christian history as well.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
All right, Jack Krasovic, we're back here, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
We are conducting the largest call-in in human history.
Get the numbers up.
Get the numbers up.
Producer Fuzz, get the numbers up again, because people need to be calling in, again, polite, respectful.
We want all of that, but do not back down.
I want you also, by the way, to call that Iowa Republican, that state representative, who, by the way, is also a pastor, Who says that we should have this up and it's the blessing of our freedom that it should be up there.
No, you can find your legislature if you are in Iowa and then of course also call the governor's office.
Take this down.
Governor Reynolds, you have full authority under the state constitution to be able to go and do this.
Go and take it down.
Do your job.
Rich?
You were mentioning something before about how, you know, they call us the New Right, and the New Right label is sort of this way to describe, like, your Trump wing, your MAGA wing, America First wing, as opposed to your Old Right, you know, your CONINC establishment, GOP establishment.
And, you know, nobody wants to be branded the old something, so it's useful for some purposes.
But I think there's maybe another term we could start using.
I kind of feel like, because to your point, that there is a huge tradition that we are trying to bring back.
We're trying to bring back here the secret history of the Christian tradition in this country, the secret history of how our governments used to operate before all these changes were made, really, in the 1960s.
I don't know.
Maybe we should start calling us the Trad Right.
What do you think?
Trad Right.
Yeah, and I said on the break too that when it comes to the party labels, I mean, MAGA or America First is not an old saying.
Reagan used it.
And then there were some people before Reagan that I would say were in that more Rockefeller wing of the party, of course.
You know, MAGA is the OG of the Republican Party.
They are the OGs, right?
So they're the originals.
They're the ones who—these principals can't be the police of the world.
It's not that you're in isolation.
You're a non-interventionalist, and you put America and American business and American workers first.
This is the history of the modern Republican Party that got disrupted after Reagan with Herbert Walker Bush.
Even he wasn't as bad as some of them are now.
That morphed into, you know, McCainism and Romneyism, you know, Bushism all kind of came together.
And that's what we now refer to as the traditional Republican.
And as a pollster, it's hard for me to swallow because I know that's what people will recognize and understand.
But it's not true.
Let me ask you about this because Fox News and Lawrence had a great point on Fox and Friends this morning, which I happen to catch, thanks to Carly Bonet and the great Midnight Rider and the work she does there.
He said that it seems like, it seems like this Nikki Haley push that she's getting right now is kind of that last gasp of the, of the, of the Khan-Inc The GOP establishment to try to get someone in there.
And then Steve said earlier on War Room that he thinks it's almost like they want, they don't think she can win, right?
And maybe you can walk us through that, but they don't think she can win.
I don't think she can win, but maybe she can win enough that she gets installed as the vice president on the ticket, which I'll tell you right now, I will not stop Making sure she is never within a thousand yards of that ticket.
She will never be on the Trump ticket.
And they want her to be like the Chancellor of the White House, and Trump goes off and is the cheerleader and all, but he's the spokesman, but she's going to be the one running things.
Do you think that's what's going on with Haley right now?
It's the last gasp?
Yeah, and as I'm sure Steve knows, Kevin McCarthy has been telling everybody who will listen that he thinks that Donald Trump should pick Nikki Haley.
I'm just going to say this and some people are going to, you know, gasp, but you know, that's a great idea if you want to be assassinated.
Sorry, did I just say it on live?
I did.
Nikki Haley is not the insurance policy that Donald Trump needs.
Nikki Haley would be a disaster.
And I honestly don't think Uh, that would happen anyway because I think it would jeopardize his win, Jack.
I do.
And I think that there would be a bunch of true Trumpers who would feel ultimately betrayed if he ever picked Nikki Haley as his running mate.
But that's what the administrative state wants Donald Trump to do.
And in this very difficult point in our history, this very Unstable place that we're in politically right now.
Don't put anything past these people, Jack, if they can't incarcerate them, if they can't remove them in some way, shape or form, um, you know, then I've, then I, then I'm really concerned about the direction that they will, they will choose.
And so that she becomes present.
And I've been saying all week here on the program that it feels, and I went on with Alex Jones and said this as well, that it really feels like they're trying to get someone to go Lee Harvey Oswald again.
They're trying to get someone to go up there, climb up and start taking potshots at this guy, and now all of a sudden, you're right, they've got someone waiting in the wings who's the CIA's girl, who's Boeing's girl, the military industrial complex, the same way that LBJ was able to slip right in there, turn up the cookers, we're going to Vietnam boys, turn up that napalm, all of it got turned on because Because JFK was assassinated.
And we said, look, Tucker's talked about this.
The Washington Post, by the way, has talked about this.
The idea that if they can't stop him, they will take him out with a bullet.
And you're right.
The next phase of that would be setting up his successor.
Wow.
Wow.
Jack, that's powerful.
This is how they operate.
This is their nudgers.
They don't ever really do it themselves.
Malcolm X, that's what they did.
They pushed the Nation of Islam.
They had turncoats in the Nation of Islam back then.
They created this rift between Malcolm X and Elijah Muhammad.
And then they had a bunch of people in his inner circle, Muhammad's inner circle, that were on the FBI's payroll.
And they nudged and nudged and nudged and nudged and created a fear of Malcolm X to the point where they pushed members of the Nation of Islam to kill Malcolm X.
I mean, people better wake up. - And it said that Farrakhan, it said that Farrakhan was actually part of that push.
Now he denies it, but it said that Farrakhan used that as his way to kind of gain the credibility and gain the ability to later become the successor.
Yeah, and Cory Booker.
Hey, Cory, Senator Booker, you know some of that, don't you?
In Newark, it's an obvious... Oh, yeah, you do!
Let's talk about the sons of Newark, the real sons of Newark.
That's right.
He knows all about this, Jack.
I mean he had the guy who was believed to have been the holder of the shotgun in his 2010 campaign video.
And the lieutenant governor of New Jersey, who also knows very well about that community, went to his funeral.
I mean this is a man who had a very, very long rap sheet but was celebrated for being redeemed.
And that's all very well and good.
And I love a good redemption story myself, as everybody knows.
But the FBI protected this man for years.
Two men spent more than 20 years in jail for being a part of a crime they didn't commit.
That's our government.
That's our federal government.
That's how they roll.
Rich, Rich, we're out of time.
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