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Today is December 11th, 2023.
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You just heard me there impromptu interview yesterday on the X platform with Elon Musk, the CEO of X.com, asking him directly, If the FBI comes to you and asks you to censor legal content, legal content, what would you do?
He first told me that he would fight it in court, and then he said he would be transparent about it.
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Would you be willing to fight?
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Elon Musk gave me that answer right there, exclusively, that he would be willing to personally go to prison rather than take down legal content in the middle of a contentious election.
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We're going to talk about that later with Tony Schafer.
Gavin Wax is here as well.
We're going to talk about Trump and the meeting of the Macedonians in New York this weekend.
But you know what?
Every day I get up, I do the work.
I go to work, I do the work.
You got President Trump, he's fighting for his life on four separate trials.
And don't think for a second that this regime would not be willing to take him out with a bullet if they had to.
That's why his security over the next 10 months needs to be absolutely paramount.
Because they will try to take him out one way or the other.
And that is why we talk about these things.
So you want to talk about sacrifice?
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What are you willing to sacrifice?
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The same way that President Trump was willing to take down the Bush dynasty and the Clinton dynasty.
And he didn't need to do any of this.
But he did, and he did it because he cares about our country, he cares about our people, he cares about our future.
Regardless of what the consequences for himself are, he's willing to walk into that fire.
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Are you willing to be there?
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Are you going to have your name be put on those scrolls?
Because I'm telling you, the time for choosing is rapidly approaching.
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President Donald Trump was there, Steve Bannon, Raheem Kassam, all the top names, all the top generals, the top lieutenants, and the man who put it all together joins us now, Gavin Wax, the president of the New York Young Republican Club.
Gavin, how did it feel to be up there that night?
Oh, it was it was electric.
It was it was probably going to go down in history as an event for the event for the books.
And I was just I was just an honor to be a part of it all.
And the crowd was wild.
The energy was wild.
Vibes were amazing.
You know, the orchestral music in the background, the light show, you know, President Trump, you know, entering into a thousand plus people in the largest ballroom in the city of New York to address the crowd and eat I mean, you really can't get much better than this, I think, as far as conservative events go, as far as Republican events go.
I mean, this set the bar in terms of the quality of the production.
And Gavin, that ballroom, Cipriani's, you mentioned something on stage that this played a very pivotal role in the 2016 election, did it not?
Absolutely.
This was the this was the site of the infamous basket of deplorables comment from from Hillary Rodham Clinton at the very stage Trump spoke on that I spoke on in the very ballroom we were all gathered in.
That's where she addressed her own thousand supporters and made that comment about them being about Trump supporters all being deplorables or half of them sitting in this basket of deplorables.
So I think it was great.
We were reconquering sacred ground for Clinton, for the Clinton campaign, for the left, for the institutional left, the Dems.
We came to their home turf.
We were in New York City.
In a way, we were in a venue that they have used pretty often and we made our own voices be heard as the deplorables we are.
So I'm sure she was not too thrilled to see it if she did see it. - We have defiled their temple.
We've taken their temple and we have rechristened it to ours and made in our own image.
It's symbolic because their world is dying where our world is just beginning.
And look, I said this on War Room this morning when you and I were both on, but you know, when Alexander, right before the invasion of Persia, he held a massive banquet for all of his generals, all of his lieutenants.
He brought all of the Macedonians together.
And it's written, and Homer and others wrote that Alexander said, tonight we dine, tomorrow we march.
And that's exactly how I felt that night, that this was the final gathering.
And you could tell that President Trump felt that way when he got up there.
He knew Alex Stein.
Rudy Giuliani, I'll never be able to get all the names, right?
I'll never be able to point out.
But everyone who was a major force in this movement, who understands that this is a movement for taking back our country, and then I spoke with Elon Musk yesterday about how this is really a movement to actually advance and expand the human race itself.
Through actual advancement of our civilization into a multi-planetary species that we need to get back on track.
Who better to do that, by the way, than the man who founded the Space Force itself?
And Gavin, there's a question though...
That Governor DeSantis brought up last night and Trump made this, he told an anecdote of what it was like going up against the Clintons and the threat that he faced in doing so and a general had said to him that, you know, this is braver than anything I've ever seen and I've been in combat is basically what the anecdote was.
Yeah, absolutely.
DeSantis claims that Trump is a coward and he claims that Trump is just doing this out of, I don't know, ego and pride and all of this.
Does he not understand the sacrifices that Trump is making in order to do this?
And by the way, this was the very content of your speech itself when you introduced him.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, listen, I think DeSantis and his supporters and his surrogates, they fall into this camp of literalists.
I mean, they take everything Trump says literally.
In anecdotes, he's talking lightly off cuff, making a joke, and they screech like leftists.
They screech like leftists and they make all these sort of literalist type of analysis and dissect things that President Trump said.
But then they also ignore the most obvious truths, the most obvious things that are in front of us, which is the fact that President Trump did sacrifice quite a good life that he had to fight for us and that his whole life has changed.
And now he's under immense pressure.
He's facing, you know, jail time, being thrown behind bars for fighting for us and enacting on his electoral mandate.
And, you know, Ron DeSantis then, you know, takes Lincoln Project style talking points to attack him.
It's sick.
It's messed up.
There were plenty of veterans in the audience.
There were plenty of people who have served, including yourself.
And I don't think anyone, and you correct me if I'm wrong, took anything that the president said to be insulting.
They took it exactly how he meant it.
It was an anecdote.
And he was talking off the cuff and he was speaking to people, you know, at their level, speaking to them.
You know, one on one almost.
That's why people love him, because he's authentic.
He's willing just to talk from the heart.
He's not this orchestrated, consultant driven, consultant approved candidate.
No, you're exactly right.
And obviously, I say this as a veteran.
No person in the room took it the way that Ron DeSantis took it, right?
And that's maybe probably why Ron DeSantis wasn't in the room himself, okay?
Because he doesn't understand how any of this works and doesn't understand that he would not be governor were it not for the grace of President Donald John Trump putting him in that governor's office.
And those of us, by the way, that fought for His election to be certified when Broward County was trying to steal it in 2018.
I think he forgets that it was MAGA that showed up to fight that steal that was going on in Broward County in November of 2018.
It wasn't the Neocons.
It wasn't Con Inc.
It wasn't Fox News.
It was MAGA.
It was us.
And many of the people that he has denigrated now were the very ones who made sure to ensure his victory at that point.
But there's something else here, Gavin, and it's I think they don't understand the concept of bravery.
They don't understand what the odds are.
They continually, continually downplay President Trump's bravery.
Because we all know, and I said in the opening today, They aren't just threatening him with jail time.
He's being threatened with physical violence.
They want to personally take him out with a bullet if they could.
They'd be more than happy if someone went fully Harvey Oswald or let's just say full.
Let's just say full Dallas.
OK, full Dallas on President Trump.
The idea to say that he's not brave for doing what he's doing, I think, is completely infuriating.
These people think that it's 2012, and they discount and possibly don't even understand the very concept of bravery because they've never felt it in their entire lives.
Well, absolutely.
I fully agree with you.
I mean, it's coming to the point now that the indictments aren't working, the civil suits aren't working, you know, the media lies have never worked, and you know, it makes you think, what is next in the cards?
And I think, you know, working with Secret Service for this event, being in the heart of Manhattan, the heart of New York City, a thousand people there.
I mean, it's certainly on the mind of everybody.
Something terrible could have gone wrong.
And he walked into a room, he sat down in a crowd of a thousand people for dinner.
I mean, you know, in New York City.
So I give him a lot of props for that.
He could have came and went.
He could have rushed the stage and rushed right off.
No, he sat down.
He shook hands.
He worked the room.
He had dinner with us.
It is unthinkable to them.
Actual bravery is unthinkable to them.
It is unfathomable to them.
To break a rule?
Santa's camp, they don't understand bravery.
And bravery also means taking political bravery.
It is unthinkable to them.
Actual bravery is unthinkable to them.
It is unthathomable to them.
To break a rule to stand up for something, They couldn't, they couldn't do it.
Never taken a political stance that wasn't already, you know, hitting the popularity sort of curve and the polling numbers.
I mean, President Trump He has been consistently talking about the denigration of this country, about the decline of this country, going back to the 80s and even 70s when things were generally pretty good.
He was talking about the trade imbalances then.
He was talking about getting ripped off.
He was talking about how we spend money overseas on other countries' defense, get nothing in return.
He was talking about a whole litany of issues that he still talks about today, and it wasn't popular to talk about it 30 years ago.
People probably would have looked at him like he was crazy when he brought up a lot of these topics, because back then it wasn't really in vogue.
And Ron DeSantis has never been ahead of any issue.
Ron DeSantis chases everything that President Trump has either started to talk about or enacted in office.
To throw it out there right before we go to the break here, you know what else is bravery?
Bravery is when I remember when you called me up when President Trump was indicted and said, Jack, I'm putting together a protest.
We are going to be out there in front of the Manhattan courthouse.
Do you want to come?
And everybody said we shouldn't go.
Everybody said they were going to take a shot at us.
Everybody said it's going to be mayhem.
Because there had not been a public display like that for Donald Trump outside of the rallies since January 6th.
And they said everything was going to happen to us.
And you know what?
We showed up.
And nothing happened.
We made our voices be heard.
The President remembers.
The President respects it.
And I think that was one of the main reasons that the President showed up to our gala this Sunday.
The concept of loyalty and the concept of bravery.
These are fundamental concepts that have been completely lost to the con-inc, to the conservative establishment, the Republican leadership.
And so we will be forced, we find ourselves forced to restore them to the American body public the same way that we will restore our nation.
Gavin Wax is our guest.
We are continuing this interview in just a few moments here.
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Gavin, and again, thank you for putting it on.
Thank you for making myself and Tanya Tay a huge part of this.
But the theme, I think, of the night, other than the incredible optics, other than the incredible music, because the understanding of the gravity, I really do think that the theme of the night was loyalty.
It was loyalty and then coupled with bravery, because, you know, we didn't realize it, but our bravery apparently was being challenged.
So, walk us through, why is it that bravery and loyalty have been so discounted in the American ruling class establishment, and why it is so incumbent on us that we are forced to bring forward these essences again?
Listen, loyalty is a concept that transcends politics.
I think the average Joe Schmo, he understands loyalty, he understands disloyalty, he or she has felt it.
loyalty, has felt disloyalty, has experienced it at work, at personal lives, at the relationships, you name it.
It's a concept that anyone can relate to.
And I think this shows the brilliance of President Trump, that he made a central focus of his reelection campaign and also a central focus of his offenses against his primary opponents, many of whom owe him a great deal.
And they should be showing loyalty to him for all the things that he did to make their political careers a success.
And many people told President Trump, oh, who cares about this?
No one cares about loyalty.
This isn't a topic that gets people riled up.
But in fact, it is.
It's something that everyone can relate to.
And they relate to President Trump in a way that no other politician or elected official has ever been able to generate that sort of relationship between the voter and themselves.
President Trump is able to do it.
He's been able to personalize his fights.
He's been able to personalize, you know, his struggle, his issues, his political, you know, endeavors.
And that's why the people love him.
That's what they show up to these rallies.
That's why they that's why he's up by 60 points in the Republican primary.
That's why he's up in all these swing states by close to double digits.
That's why he's probably going to take back the White House, because people understand what he's dealing with.
And they understand that people like Ron DeSantis are snakes.
They understand that people like Nikki Haley are cowards, and they're actually disloyal, and they see right through them.
And that old mode of politics is dead and dying.
People are not going to fall for that shtick and charade anymore.
They want authenticity.
They want loyalty.
They want people who speak from the heart.
They want people that speak off the cuff.
Maybe they have a few slip ups.
Maybe they read a poem.
called the snake, I don't know, but people enjoy it.
People like it.
They do not like the over orchestrated, you know, over practiced, you know, consultant driven Ron DeSantis.
They're sick of it.
It's dry, it's dead.
It's just not gonna work anymore. - It's, there's, and there's also the ultimate loyalty.
The ultimate loyalty of all, of any leader, is loyalty to the people.
Loyalty to the American people.
And we would not be in this situation, and President Trump would be sitting down at Mar-a-Lago, hanging out with Melania, if we were not in the situation where we were living under a government, With a uniparty that stopped being loyal to the American people.
And now we are forced, we are forced to retake that government and we are forced to come into power and we will be forced to go into Washington DC and go into the swamp and go into the deep state And we will take every single one of these individuals and hold them accountable and teach them what happens when they are disloyal to the American people.
We will teach them what happens when you do not put America first.
We will teach you that this is not something that we want to do.
This is not something that we are desiring to do.
I would much rather be doing other things with my time.
But I will not sit back and let my country be controlled by these disloyal snakes for a second longer.
That is why we are doing these things.
And I think they don't understand it.
And this is why when you talk to a DeSantis type and they don't understand.
Look at the Des Moines Register poll this morning.
This is the gold standard of gold standard polls.
There's no tie to Donald Trump.
They understand Iowa better than anyone on the face of the planet.
They just said that Donald Trump is up over 50% in the Iowa primary, right?
And why would, right?
On paper it makes no sense.
Why would a New York billionaire, right, be a guy who's the favored of the evangelicals and the social conservatives and the farmers?
And it's quite simple.
Because he's loyal to them.
Because he fought for them against communist China.
He got them into the trade deals.
It's just loyalty.
Gavin, why don't they see it?
Listen, I think these are people that have been, you know, bred in an environment of political, you know, backstab.
They've been taught their entire lives.
These are people that don't come from the private sector.
They don't come from the real world.
They come from this sort of feeder system, this junior league political hierarchy where they move up to the next level by backstabbing the guy that was in front of them.
And they just do that repeatedly until they finally make it to an elected office.
And then they get there and they finally realize, wait.
All this Machiavellian backstabbing and betrayals and disloyalty and dishonesty and all these traits that they used and all these sins that they used to advance themselves don't really play well with the people who now have a front and center stage to really observe them, to really understand them in a way that we never had before.
We've talked about this, you know, radio versus television.
Now there's now social media.
Now, all of a sudden, all these politicians that were able to hide A lot of their worst flaws and a lot of their worst, you know, character traits all of a sudden now they're under a magnifying glass because of things like social media and people see right through them now and they don't relate to them and they don't they don't particularly care for them and they will take the New York billionaire any day because he's not trying to pretend to be anything he's not.
He is a New York billionaire.
That's who he is.
That's what he that's what he presents himself as.
He's not trying to pretend he's one of you.
He's not trying to wear cowboy boots and pretend he's a cowboy.
He's just trying to tell you this is who I am.
This is what I believe.
This is what I'm going to do for you.
End of story.
And people love that.
It's simple.
It's straightforward.
It's the best form of politics.
And frankly, it's the future of politics.
You mentioned that evening that the MAGA movement is a New York movement and that you can't fundamentally understand the MAGA movement unless you understand New York.
What did you mean by that?
Listen, Trump, President Trump, like myself, is a guy from Queens.
You know, he has an outer borough sort of vibe to him.
It's very old New York.
He calls, you know, he calls it like he sees it.
He's blunt.
He's direct.
You know how he feels.
You know what he thinks.
You know, he'll be your best friend.
He'll be your most loyal friend.
He'll always be there for you.
But if you're his enemy, he's going to destroy you.
He's going to come after you and you're his enemy for life.
There's a vendetta.
So, you know, that is the kind of guy he is.
It's a very New York sort of hustle and bustle New York brawler.
That's who he is.
And that's the kind of guy we need for this time.
We don't need someone who just wants to go along to get along.
We need a guy who's going to go in there and, you know, be ready to use his knuckles.
We need a bare-knuckle boxer right now.
That is the moment.
That is the time.
He is rising to the occasion.
I think a man from Queens, a New Yorker, is the guy to do it.
He's willing to call out these guys.
He's willing to fight.
He's willing to go on the offensive.
And he is not going to be, you know, scared from all that's in front of him.
He's not shying away from any future fights.
He knows what he needs to do.
He knows the pressure he's under.
And he's still able to get on stage, joke, dance, smile, like he has no problems in the world.
That's not something that can be replicated.
That's something that, you know, he was born with, that he grew up with.
It took a lifetime to develop through all his experiences.
And a typical, you know, run-of-the-mill politician like Ron DeSantis will never have that.
He'll never have that character, that force of character, that gusto.
He doesn't have that, you know, je ne sais quoi.
Yes, President Trump has it.
He has that presence, you know, when he's sitting next to you at the table, you know, he is the energy.
He is the focus, you know.
He always has it.
He brings in the energy.
You know, there was another thing that President Trump said that the entire media lost their minds over.
And, you know, he mentioned it recently on an interview with Sean Hannity as well.
And, Gavin, here's my question, I guess, and I'm not going to ask about the specific rhetoric, you know, that they want to play these games around, but let's be serious for a second.
We could solve all the problems in this country in a 24-hour period, couldn't we, Gavin, if we really were allowed to?
I fully agree, Jack.
And listen, my only criticism of Trump is I think he's undercutting himself.
I think he should get at least 72 hours as a dictator, you know, maybe even a week.
I think by then he's setting the stage for his whole term and the next generation or so to fix these problems.
But all joking aside, I mean, you know, we do need true leadership.
We need a person who's able to effectuate His political mandate.
He was prevented from doing so by the deep state, by the establishment, by his own party, by Congress, by many people that staff the administration of state.
And it's unfortunate.
But now I think the infrastructure is there.
I think the movement is really coming into its own.
It's being fully articulated.
The vision is right in front of us.
And I think if he takes the reins once again in the White House, we're going to see, you know, an American national renewal like we've never seen before.
And that's why they're so scared of him.
They know it's coming.
I mean, don't listen to what the DeSantis losers are saying.
Just listen to what the left and the opposition are saying.
They're the ones petrified of President Trump.
No one is petrified of Ron DeSantis.
They know that guy's going to sell out, you know, as soon as he gets into office, if he ever does.
And we know he won't.
But I'm just speaking hypothetically here for a second, Jack.
But, you know, President Trump gets back into office.
You know, everyone, everyone is terrified of that guy.
Because they know what's coming.
They know retribution is coming.
They know we're going to clean house.
They know we're going to bring about, you know, a reversal of the decline, the managed decline of this country that has been going on for generations.
And President Trump has been calling that out for many decades.
And it's going to be, it's going to be Make America Great Again 2.0.
And I think it's, it's optimistic.
The 2016 energy is back in the air, especially after Sunday, after Saturday night.
Well, it did go into Sunday, so I guess I could say Saturday and Sunday night.
Um, but it was, uh, it's, here are the jingle bells.
I mean, that's, that is the moment.
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Stay tuned.
Tony Schafer joins us next.
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Now, our next guest is Tony Schaefer.
We have now this huge situation where a surprise visit to the United States and a surprise visit, an address directly to the United States militaries.
Zelensky, President Zelensky of Ukraine, fresh off the heels of going toe-to-toe with Viktor Orban down in Argentina at the inauguration of Mille, Which was yesterday.
Zelensky then gets into it with Orban.
He flies up to D.C.
and now he's going to go to our military to call for a wider war with Russia.
This is their play, by the way.
This is the play to extend the Russia war, to extend this.
They want regime change with Russia.
They want Putin out of power.
They want total control and domination over Moscow.
That's what the globalists are calling for, and I said this morning on War Room, I'll say it again here.
Zelensky is a dead man walking, because if he cannot get the Republicans to come out, And drop the opposition to Ukraine aid over the border money, over aid for the border, funding for the border, then Zelensky is a dead man walking because the Azov battalion and the other forces back home, they say, look, if you can't be our hero, we're going to turn you into our martyr.
So I've said, and I'll just say here briefly again, Zelensky, if you want another choice, there's another option.
Don't give the address to the U.S.
military.
March yourself over to Speaker Johnson's office.
Come clean about Biden.
Come clean about the crime family.
Come clean about the Clinton Foundation.
Come clean about Burisma.
Come clean about the Trump impeachment hoax.
All of the lies.
Just come clean, sir.
We'll put you in witness protection, get you a nice track suit, get you a place down in Brighton Beach, Sunny Isle if you want to be in Florida, whatever.
I don't care.
Come clean, and we will give you a path forward.
Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, is our guest.
Tony, if Zelensky goes for this, and even if he does, by the way, the conduct of this war, it seems to me that the ball is not in Kiev's court.
It seems like it's in Moscow's court as we go into this winter.
So, I want to point out to your audience, our discussion on this has been very clear and steely-eyed.
We said for over a year now that Ukrainians just wouldn't win.
They're not going to win.
It's not in the numbers.
And I said early in the invasion that the Ukrainians would never be able to stop the ultimate momentum of Russia, no matter how you want to label with the Russian effort.
I'm not here to judge.
I'm simply here to analyze that.
There's no way that they're going to prevail.
And yet you had this overly optimistic, almost magical thinking.
And every politician in the West, and I think they did it on purpose.
I think they just wanted to use Ukraine to wear down the Russians, thinking that somehow that would create sufficient political instability in Moscow to throw Putin out.
So it didn't work.
It's basically the reverse is now occurring.
The Russians are back on the offensive.
The discussions in Ukraine today are how much land do we have to give up to prepare for a cohesive defense against the Russians?
Regarding their resumption of offensive operations.
Everything they gained, Jack, that is Ukraine, is about to not only be lost, they're going to basically retreat.
That is the Ukrainian military.
Zelensky can't sustain that.
He will not survive a retreat.
And yet that's what they're talking about.
And so you have this war right now between Zelensky, the current commander of forces, and Zelensky.
And you've got Sersky, one of the generals, Colonel Generals, who was ostensibly trying to say he did a better job than Zaluzny and maybe he's the guy I should take over.
But ultimately, the guy that's most surprised.
And Klitschko, the mayor of McHieff, is even calling him out.
This is a guy, by the way, Klitschko was one of the early participants and members of the Maidan coup.
This is a very, very powerful potential rival to him.
And he's clearly, what Klitschko is doing, to my end, is saying, put me in, coach.
That is a message to the West.
He's obviously because of his boxing career is very popular with Western audiences He's saying I will be your new hero get rid of that guy turn him into a martyr put me in So I think the person who's most surprised about the National Defense University discussion today is probably Zelensky.
I don't think he figured that he'd be trying to essentially do a Hail Mary to convince, uh, I think, uh, the core members of, of the defense community who I've, I speak to Jack all the time as people all the time at the Pentagon, Jack, and I think you do too.
Nobody believes for a minute that, uh, Ukraine will do anything except have to basically buckle at this point, go into some sort of a planned defense, a planned retreat.
That's all they have left.
And simply put, and to be honest with you, even if Zelensky got the 61 billion, it's not going to stop ultimately what's happening here.
And that's the big thing.
Most Republicans I know, all the military members I speak to, all know that $61 billion will go the same way as the $113 billion.
And I'm sorry, the idea that we were funding the social constructs, their civil service, paying for businesses to have plays in Kiev, those things were never going to help the military win.
And that combined with a lack of strategy, Petraeus, I'm sorry, his whack-a-doodle, oh, we're going to have a diverse coalition of people trained, the Ukrainian forces, it's just been insane.
And at this point, throwing $61 billion, would he be better off going to Vegas and betting on hookers?
And, uh, seeing if, uh, if you could get a Hunter Biden to come out and show you that show you the ropes in Vegas, because you'd have a better time with a 61 billion than what would happen if we give it to Ukraine.
Wait, I just want to go back on this because you almost buried Leah for a second.
Petraeus said that we, that Zelinsky needs a diverse group of trainers.
Did he actually say this?
No, I'm paraphrasing what, what Petraeus did.
If you go back and I do recommend the audience to go back, Petraeus laid out This idea that the whole of NATO had trained, all of NATO had trained, all the Ukrainian forces.
And he did this, I think, as I recall, that they sent all the different Ukrainian forces to all the different member nations all over the place.
Now, you and I are in the military.
You don't achieve unit cohesion by diversifying your training.
It's like saying, hey, we're going to go out and we're all going to go take that mountain and we're going to train people in West Virginia and Vermont.
It's the Tower of Babel, Tony.
It's the Tower of Babel.
It's the end of the story of the Tower of Babel, where suddenly everybody comes back.
Because if you have unicohesion, you're all speaking the same language, you can build a tower.
But God came in and said, no, I don't want that tower.
He changed all the language.
Now, all of a sudden, we're all speaking different languages.
So if I come up here and I'm speaking, you know, I'm speaking Farsi, you're speaking Dari, or maybe you don't understand each other, but you're speaking Chinese, I'm speaking Farsi, you know, we're not going to be able to do anything.
That's exactly what Petraeus did.
And by the way, these NATO tactics, turns out, Tony, that the NATO tactics don't work too well if you don't have a little thing called air superiority or even an air force to begin with.
I was about to mention that.
So yeah, look, I often compare this to D-Day.
What if Petraeus was leading D-Day with Ukrainian forces?
Let's send in the special operations guys to do some stuff on the beach.
And then two days later, we're going to send the B-17s in to soften things up.
Oh yeah, we don't have B-17s.
Oh, we'll just send tanks in instead.
That's how stupid and completely irrelevant The planning was for this thing.
It was never going to work.
And I'm not pro-Russian.
I'm just saying it was never in the cards.
Professional military folks who study these historic trends and current tactics do it.
The fundamentals have not changed, folks.
The fundamentals have not changed.
You're fighting Russia in the middle of the winter.
Hitler found this out.
Napoleon found this out.
Stay tuned.
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Tony Schaefer.
We were just talking in the break there.
We're going to get into JIPO.
We're going to get into our MLCOAs, our MDCOAs.
We're going to get into all of it.
Tony, I think if we start throwing the intel acronyms around, we're going to lose everybody, aren't we?
No, it's like when we went through, when I was a lieutenant, we had two day, a two day exam to do an intelligence preparation of the battle space, whatever you want to call it today.
And it was detailed and, and, uh, give you, it gives people a great sense.
Well, cause now it's, now it's joint, right?
So it's joint intelligence preparation of the, or joint intelligence preparation of the, of the operational environment.
Ooh, right.
So JIPO, right.
But the MDCOA and MLCOA, I was actually talking to Charlie Kirk about this.
We were just chatting about 2024 earlier today.
And I said, look, the way you game things out, the way we game things out in the military, MDCOA, the most dangerous course of action, and the MLCOA, the most likely course of action.
And for my money, Tony, the most dangerous course of action here is essentially that the Biden administration says, yes, To a wider war with Russia going into 2024, not out of geopolitical necessity, certainly not out of military strategy, but out of political necessity.
Oh, they telegraphed that.
Look, you had Lloyd Austin last week on the Hill threatening.
And, you know, we saw Tucker confirmed that Tucker Carlson confirmed that my sources confirmed it, that behind in a classified hearing.
Lloyd Austin, who I know and work for in Afghanistan, basically threatened lawmakers by saying, either you give us the money or I'm going to send your kids to their death.
That's pretty much what he said.
It's like, hey, it's a blood or treasure.
You give me one of the two.
And to your point, I think the Biden administration is fully willing.
I think they're gunning for, to coin a term, gunning to move in with more active, more direct military operations to include troops in Ukraine.
Right now, as we speak, we have at least two full combat divisions in Poland.
Now, they're there for a reason.
I agree with the reason.
I've talked to some of the folks who made those decisions.
But the idea here is I think Biden would try to prompt some sort of a military action that would make it appear like 1939 Poland to make it look like the Russians did something aggressive and give him the ability to send U.S.
forces into Ukraine in an aggressive way, blaming the Russians.
So I think that's the most dangerous.
I don't think it's all that unlikely.
I think the most likely, going the other way, is that the saner minds of the Pentagon prevail.
They don't allow for the military to be used as a MacGuffin to try to create conditions for war, but they hold back.
And then the most likely course of action, I think, is the Russians return to the offensive, tailored to focus on how to secure the Donbass, And those regions that they already hold, and then maybe set up a security zone to the Dnieper River.
But ultimately, what they want to do, the Russians want to do, is stabilize those areas they've taken over.
And simply put, they want to begin to examine and exploit the gas and reserve resources in there, in the Black Sea, and essentially take what is, I think, most valuable in Ukraine, which is those reserves, plus the population which are Is Russian-centric, Russian-cultured, and settle down.
I think that's what they want.
I don't think they want an extended war.
But I think Biden wants an extended war because obviously the globalists, the neocons, weren't successful in destabilizing Russia.
It had adverse effects.
So I think they are willing to double down by trying more of the same, by trying to increase our amount of direct support to include troops in the war.
Well, Tony, of course, I guess we found out that Nikki Haley has not been watching your interviews here on Human Events or anywhere because she couldn't even name three of the provinces where the fighting's going on in Ukraine.
But, you know, obviously we've known from the start with the annexation of these four provinces, or oblasts as they're referred to in Ukraine, this was Lugansk, Donetsk, Cyprus, and And Herson, Herson where, you know, I traveled right up to the board of Herson last year on this program.
Professor Mearsheimer came out and has said in a series of interviews, in a series of talks that he's done, and remember this is the guy who predicted the Ukraine war 10 years ago and said the West is leading Ukraine down the Primrose Path and they are going to be smashed.
He's predicting that the Kremlin is now looking at the next four provinces, and I look at my map here.
That's Kharkov, of course, we know the fighting's going on there.
Yeah, absolutely.
I have no doubt.
Again, it's a limited defensive.
I think they're going to return to a limited tailored offensive to begin to secure the other areas to create essentially a security zone.
Settle those four provinces they've got, Jack.
They want to turn those, they've already said they're Russian, so they're Russian.
And then they want to create, I think, a zone of security which allows for them to have essentially a demilitarized zone.
It's never going to be in the cards for Ukraine or whatever's left of it to join NATO.
But I think the ultimate agreement can be made that Ukraine, what's left of it, not under control of Russia, becomes essentially neutral.
And I think that's what the Russians seek.
They're in the driver's seat now.
And as I mentioned at the beginning of our interview, I think whatever territory Ukraine was able to re-secure or secure in the fall offensive last year, a year ago, is about to be lost.
There's just nothing left of Ukrainian forces able to stop the Russians.
I think they're going to have to fall back.
You're going to see a frozen conflict.
I Obviously, we're in the winter.
So it's already a frozen conflict in some respects.
But you'll see a frozen conflict with that we you will see the really at this point, the only question is how much of Ukraine is left in the rump state?
And where will the demilitarized where will the demilitarized zone be?
That's correct.
Where will the armistice line be?
It'll be east west.
And we will see you know, they might refer to this.
This is not this is the Novorossia plan.
Tony and just just last question, you know, very quickly on this.
Do you view this because you were the person who said that Russia will conduct this this limited offensive Do you believe then that they and I'll just I'll just double stomp on it Do you believe them though?
They'll go in to actually try to deny access to the Black Sea and turn that rum state of Ukraine into essentially a landlocked entity Yes, I do.
I think part of Putin's philosophy is he's a thug he's gonna do some revenge here I think this all could have been resolved if Over a year ago in March of 2020, we're looking.
Absolutely.
And I think Putin is not without some level of commodity.
Just assassinated the guy that tried to do the coup against him.
So yeah, I think there's going to be some vengeance there, just to be honest.
I'm not saying... Well, that's right.
I mean, he's currently signing an arms deal.
They're doing a fighter jet deal with Iran.
They're doing trade agreements between BRICS and the Central Asian nations.
I think, to your point, the die is cast.
Tony, where can people go to follow you?
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