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	This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
	Deliver us from evil!
	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
	Today brings you part two of World War Asia, live from Tokyo, Japan.
	Remember, this is myself, the leading experts of Japan, military experts, political experts, medical experts, and we are joined by Gordon Chang.
	Today we are talking about the grim possibility of what happens if the war in Israel The war that's going on, the proxy war in Ukraine, breaks out into a full-on war that engulfs the United States, Russia, Iran, and China.
	Remember, this is Mearsheimer's warning that the United States would be brought into a multi-front global conflict.
	Are you ready for the fourth turning?
	Because you're in one.
	We now proceed to the final session.
	The title is World War, Israel vs. Hamas.
	Let me introduce to you the panelists.
	First, Member of the House of Representatives and Director of the International Bureau of Japan Innovation Party, Hitoshi Aoyagi.
	Welcome him with a round of applause, please.
	Next, Senior Editor and a former Naval Intelligence Officer, Mr. Jack Posobie.
	Senior editor and a former Naval intelligence officer mr. Jeff Rosopec see backboard member columnist Gordon Chan entrepreneur YouTube and goodwill
	ambassador for Israel Kego Takasaki I can see you know Let me again introduce to you the panelists.
	First of all, member of the House of Representatives and director of the International Bureau of the Japan Innovation Party, Hidoshi Aoyagi.
	After graduating from university, he worked for JICA, where he worked on reducing poverty in Africa and reconstruction of Afghanistan.
	He is the first class of the Isshin Political Training Program, and in 2021, he won the election in Osaka as a rookie member from the home ground of the Japan Innovation Party, and he is currently director of the International Bureau of that party.
	Senior editor and Naval Intelligence Office veteran, Jack Posobiec.
	CPAC board member, columnist Gordon Chang.
	Entrepreneur, YouTuber, Goodwill Ambassador for Israel, Keigo Takasaki, and the moderator is JCU Chairman, Jay Aiba.
	A big round of applause, please.
	Yes, please come to the front, please.
	Well, over to you, Mr. Aeba.
	Thank you.
	Well, over to you, Mr. Ayoba.
	Thank you.
	Well, thank you very much for staying until the final session.
	So what we see on the news every day, there are painful developments.
	Last year, the Ukraine-Russia war started, and this year, on the 7th of October, In the Gaza Strip of Israel, a war broke out.
	So what kind of ripple effect will this have on the world and Japan?
	This will be the theme of the last session.
	First, let me go through some of the facts.
	Starting with what happened.
	7th of October, Hamas, which is an Islam-Turkish group, I will talk about that in more detail later, from their base in Gaza launched missiles into Israel.
	That was the first event that occurred.
	And between Gaza and Israel, there are various barriers and walls, which were destroyed by tractors and park lighters were used to invade into Israel.
	And on the Israel side, near Gaza, there were music festivals.
	And so Hamas attacked such festivals, and many Jews as well as Americans and other nationalities were taken as hostages.
	And Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel called for the support Across all parties and established an emergency coalition government and counter-attacked by missiles as well as ground forces were formed.
	National unity government was formed.
	And so for 10 days, there was a stop in the fighting, which was terminated today and war broke out again.
	It is said about 70% of the construction in Gaza has been destroyed during the attacks.
	So let me talk a little bit more about Hamas.
	Hamas is a group that is calling out for an all-out war with Israel.
	They are an Islamic group, and from 2007, they have overtaken Gaza through military arms, and they are now the main force behind this attack.
	So, Hamas in Gaza and Israel, the situation is very fluid as well as very violent.
	So, what kind of impact this will have on the world and Japan will be the main topic of today's discussion.
	So, let me go on to my first question.
	In Israel and in Gaza, what is happening truly?
	What is the status of the battle?
	I would like to invite Jack Wozowiec, who was an information officer as well as a journalist, please.
	Yes, thank you very much, Jay.
	And of course, your description of the attack, Hamas' attack on October 7th, was quite sufficient.
	And in fact, I believe that one of the main pieces to that attack that really caught the world by surprise was the fact that the Israeli Defense Forces were caught by surprise, that there seemed to be no security whatsoever.
	These areas of Gaza that had been, prior to then, heavily fortified, were also maintained under strict surveillance and monitoring by the Israeli Defense Forces, the IDF.
	And so the fact that Hamas was able to plan this, was able to conduct this attack, and was able to be From their military perspective, successful in this attack, really a terrorist attack, paramilitary if you want to put it that way, is very, very important, very, very significant and must be investigated fully.
	Currently on the ground in Gaza, as you say, there's been a 10 day ceasefire that ended today.
	Because the ceasefire ended, you're now seeing the uptick in, so we saw the hostages returned, now you're seeing the strategic bombing by the Israelis has continued.
	Northern Gaza predominantly, however, there are and have also been fighter strikes in the south, in southern Gaza, along Rafah, along some of the other axes.
	You're also seeing this encirclement by the IDF ground forces of Gaza in the north.
	This is where they believe most of the hostages currently are.
	This is where those tunnels are.
	This is where the hospital was that's been the center of so much of the fighting.
	So the specific ground operations have mainly been around the north.
	Their tanks, their soldiers have been encircling it.
	However, they have not penetrated deep inside Gaza City yet because, of course, it is so heavily fortified and there are so many hostilities.
	This is one of the densest populations.
	In fact, believe it or not, it's even an area that's more dense than Tokyo itself.
	These people are literally living on top of each other in this area, many of whom are hostile, many are not hostile.
	There's no way to know who's in there.
	This is why the Israeli Defense Force, the IDF, is still using this bombing campaign and tanks as little as possible because they know that the minute they send ground forces into Gaza City itself, Gaza City proper, they are going to be attacked on all sides by Hamas and their allies.
	Thank you very much for your concise and very exact description of the current events.
	So, Takasaki-san, you were on the vaccination ward.
	So in YouTube, you can't say vaccine, but now I can say vaccine very clearly.
	So Takasaki-san, you were on that panel.
	But you're also the ambassador, goodwill ambassador for Israel.
	So what is the current status of Israel as you see it, Mr. Takasaki?
	Thank you.
	Well, let me just state at the onset that I am an official goodwill ambassador for Israel.
	But what is being done by the Israel administration, I'm not going to justify everything that they're doing.
	I do think that Israel needs to do some self-regulation.
	It's soul-searching as its identity.
	So now Prime Minister Netanyahu is acting like God to some extent.
	So I would like to share my frank views with you.
	So there are two points I would like to raise.
	First, what is the aim of Hamas?
	Propaganda.
	Propaganda.
	Because the world is being moved in a direction that they feel bad for the people in Gaza and that Israel is more of the perpetrator.
	And so Hamas has been making many fake accounts and creating news of, for example, little children crying.
	And that is being spread to all over the world.
	So why Israel has to bomb these civilian areas?
	Well, Hamas' sole mission is to completely destroy the nation of Israel.
	And the presence of Hamas is, of course, an existential threat to Israel.
	But if they try to attack Hamas, actually, their tunnels are like a beehive.
	And so they need to find the entry point into these tunnels.
	And Hamas actually places the entry point under hospitals or schools.
	So they are making the people of Gaza as the And so, they need to – and so, Israel is forced into attacking civilians because hospitals and schools are actually guarding these tunnels entry.
	And also, is there a clear delineation between the fighters and the citizens?
	Actually, it's very difficult because the Hamas do not wear the battle gear.
	They look like civilians, so it's very difficult to tell them apart.
	And from their childhood, they were educated based on hatred, that Israel is evil.
	That was the education for the past 18, 20 years by Hamas.
	And so the children who are educated in this manner is now becoming 18 years old, 20 years old.
	It is very difficult to clarify who are the fighters, who are the civilians.
	So Israel has notified the civilians to escape into the south, but Hamas is actually preventing them from escaping or evacuating.
	So it's such a difficult situation for Israel.
	Thank you.
	In combat?
	Even in the activities and behavior of civilians, it's hard to imagine living in Japan.
	So I think the fact that it's hard to imagine living in Japan was understood by the audience.
	Now, this all started in October, this conflict between Israel and Hamas, but this isn't the end.
	It's not just that particular district.
	Will it cause change to the Middle East?
	That's the concern.
	During the Trump administration, there was the Abraham Accord between Israel and Arab countries, and there was positive evolution.
	But the Biden administration turned that over, upended that, and after Trump left, Israel And the fundamentalists in Palestine, extremists, have forgotten what Trump said, so everything is in chaos.
	So this conflict will impact the Middle East situation in general, Gordon Chan and Mr. Posevic.
	Could you share with us your hypothesis, your analysis?
	Gordon, please.
	First of all, what we're seeing is region-wide conflict.
	It is spread.
	It's not just Hamas.
	It's now the Houthi militia and Hezbollah as well.
	All three groups are Iranian proxies and they're backed by China.
	And so we've got a region right now that looks like it's going to slip into further conflict.
	There may be pauses.
	There might be even long pauses.
	But I think that governments in the region realize that Hamas has got to be destroyed.
	If you talk to the Gulf Arabs, other than Qatar, you'll find that nobody there wants Hamas to exist anymore.
	And that is good in a sense that they're coming to that assessment.
	But also, Iran understands this, which means that this war will continue for some time.
	And remember, this is being fueled by Iran, which is being fueled by China.
	And those are actors that want this to continue.
	So, I think that we shouldn't expect that this will last quite a long time.
	Remember, this is occurring in the context of a general breakdown in peace and stability around the world.
	So what would normally maybe be a short-term war, I think will become a long-term one.
	Thank you very much.
	And Jack, can you share your views as well?
	Well, I agree with Gordon that this regional conflict has already escalated beyond just Israel-Hamas.
	Of course, Israel-Hamas is the most kinetic form of this, but not only do you see Hezbollah and The Houthis getting involved, but now we're seeing all sorts of Iranian-backed groups across the Levant, across Syria, from Iran, and also inside Iraq, making attacks on U.S.
	bases and current U.S.
	forces that operate on those bases within these areas.
	Many of which with Kurdish, Kurdish defense forces, the SDF and so forth.
	And so because the US has such a robust footprint across the Middle East, it still continues to do so.
	All of those bases will currently be within and are now with basically with crosshairs on their backs.
	What Gordon says about the context, the greater context of the world order, one subject that we didn't discuss on our last panel, but I'd certainly love to broach, is of course the rise of BRICS and the rise of the BRICS nations, the BRICS bloc.
	At their recent summit, they were not able to agree on increasing the number of BRICS nations, but we've already seen Saudi Arabia has applied to join, Iran has applied to join, and certainly some combination of this or some relationship will take place.
	What's happened is that Russia and China have fused such a mutually beneficial relationship, and now with Russia being isolated from much of the Western world, you're seeing this new bloc form an economic and then eventually military relationship away from the West and away from the United States and its allies.
	So in order to understand how all of this is moving, We must also look at it through the lens of the BRICS nations and the way they view themselves as hardening themselves, strengthening their military, strengthening their posture against what they view as NATO, what they view as potentially a threat from NATO.
	And then of course the question being, does Xi Jinping view Japan and view these other nations as threats to itself, the way that we're seeing Russia and the way we're seeing Iran respond?
	Thank you.
	BRICS was mentioned.
	Thank you for mentioning that.
	And this will lead to the final point, so I'm going to delve deep into that subject later on, but before I do so, this Israel versus Hamas conflict will impact the Middle East situation in general.
	If that were the case, in fact, in Japan, that would have many impacts to Japan.
	What's serious is, currently in Japan, the oil we consume, 90% is from the Arab countries.
	So, this is directly linked to the energy issue, which we, the Japanese, must consider.
	So, with the state of situation in the Middle East becoming more flux, what impact will there be?
	How should the Japanese be prepared?
	You are the Policy Research Council leader in the Japan Innovation Party, right?
	So, Aoyagi-san, thank you.
	I'm with the House of Representatives, and I'm a board member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, and at the board meeting of the Foreign Affairs Committee, 20 Arab countries' ambassadors came, and we had a discussion.
	For the sake of fairness, we invited later on Israeli ambassadors, and they were talking about many things, but the Arab ambassadors were all saying the following point.
	They didn't ask Japan to be on their side.
	They were saying, you can freely attack and criticize Hamas.
	But if there's violence of international law, you should also criticize Israel.
	That's the kind of Japan with the fairness that we believe Japan has.
	And that's the kind of Japan we want to continue to be friends with.
	That was the message from those ambassadors.
	Jay said, Going forward, will there be economic impact?
	No doubt.
	Because Ukraine, Russia, there is an oil shortage from imports, and that has caused inflation, and that inflation is driven by oil or energy.
	And mostly, 100% of our oil comes from the Middle East, so that is going to further Flame, inflation, so we have to control the situation as early as possible.
	But one point that I should have said before, what kind of position should Japan take?
	I think there are two major perspectives.
	This year, we are the presidency of the G7, and currently we are number four.
	Germany has surpassed.
	200 countries around the world.
	So four isn't bad.
	Now, military spending presence is not so bad either.
	So what does that kind of country do?
	It's very important for global peace.
	And I think there are two perspectives.
	First, G7 presidency, and there's one ally, US, is part of the G7.
	So if there's going to be a world war, as you mentioned, Israel is supported by many of the G7, and Hamas, Palestine is supported by China, Russia, and Iran.
	So, of course, we should be on this side.
	That's one perspective.
	But on the other hand, if we do that, then what would happen to global peace?
	We can't secure permanent global peace.
	Because with this incident, for example, Israel, ran against the resolution of the United Nations.
	And even after the resolution was adopted, they continued to criticize.
	So international order is something that all countries should abide by.
	We need an organization to uphold international order, and Japan should exercise leadership to uphold international order, or else it would lead to long-term peace in Japan.
	So there are these two perspectives, especially in the case of the latter.
	Arab countries have high hopes towards Japan regarding the latter.
	And for Japan, when we think about permanent and long-lasting peace, We shouldn't be overly simplistic about the possibility of world war.
	So what would be our position in the future global community?
	In the Security Council of the United States, finally resolution was adopted, and I talked about those who were in the meetings.
	Four times voting was conducted, but U.S.
	veto disabled.
	So finally, what did they do?
	They asked Russia and the United States to abstain in order to have the resolution adopted at the Security Council.
	So you need intelligence.
	Ambassador Ishigane of Japan said finally Security Council delivered something.
	That's what he said after the resolution was adopted.
	If the UN Security Council stops functioning, that's the end.
	So we have to have the international order continue to function, and I think that's needed very much.
	Thank you very much.
	That was a very important point that you touched upon.
	So listening to Aoyagi-san, I thought about this.
	Japan actually has no direct involvement in Israel or Palestine.
	We don't really have any direct stake or interest in it.
	So Japan has some distance that we can keep and so we can comment from neutral grounds and perhaps point to a certain direction from a neutral point of view.
	So Japan is in a special position in that sense.
	So rather than letting the situation escalate, as representative said, how we can prevent escalation if we can prevent the war from getting larger, that would be a positive role that Japan could potentially play.
	So getting back to CPAC in U.S. domestically, what is the current situation of U.S. given the war in Israel?
	So we have seen on the news that there are many people who are voicing support to Israel.
	On the other hand, there are also those who are more supportive of Hamas.
	And even amongst the liberals, there are people who support Israel, there are people who support Hamas, and there is a lot of confusion and a lot of demonstrations going on in New York and other cities.
	What is happening in the U.S.
	in light of the presidential election?
	What kind of impact will the war in Israel have in the U.S.?
	I'd like to ask both Jack and Gordon, starting with Jack, please.
	- Well, as you say, Jay, there have been many rallies across the United States, and really parts of Western Europe as well, in support of what they call the Palestinian Freedom Cause, Palestinian liberation, and many others point that this is a very anti-Israel position.
	Predominantly, the people who are at these rallies, they find themselves on the left politically.
	So this is part of what we would consider the Democrat coalition.
	However, there is a significant split now in the Democrat coalition because you would see many of these groups, some are ethnic groups like BLM, some of them are socialist groups like the Democrat Socialists of America.
	However, there is also the mainstripe of a mainstream Democrat, like your Joe Biden, like a Hillary Clinton, perhaps even a Gavin Newsom, which is a neoliberal form of Democrat.
	By and large, they and the Democrat leadership are pro-Israel, and at least have nominally said they want to stand by Israel.
	Though, there have been many instances, even within the White House itself, because there are so many pro-Islamic groups within the United States now, Certainly even many members of Congress that are pro-Palestinian.
	And so Joe Biden has found himself in this position where he's had to act as sort of supporting almost both sides.
	He's being pulled in two different directions.
	Politically speaking, this split on the Democrat side in their coalition is very advantageous to, I believe, not just conservatives, but to pragmatic Americans who can see that one side of which is supporting a terrorist organization, whereas the other side stands with maintaining that strong world order.
	Having the ability to actually stand for rights, for international law, of course, this being the side that Donald Trump has always stood on, the side of peace, the side of the Abraham Accords.
	And so I think it's something where they view Biden's mismanagement as incredibly terrible, not only in Ukraine and Taiwan, but here in Israel, whereby in, look, when President Trump was there three years ago, these types of things weren't happening.
	Now we have a world that is spiraling into war.
	This makes it much, much more likely that Donald Trump will be elected.
	And we're also seeing in polling that moderates and independents are now swinging back towards Donald Trump where they were in the original election in 2016.
	Thank you, Gordon.
	The October 7 war has split the Democrats, as Jack just talked about.
	The Ukraine war, if you want to look at this from a mirror point of view, split the Republicans more than the Democrats.
	But as Jack points out, and this I think is the most important point, and that is that whatever one thought of Donald Trump's foreign policies, They kept the world at peace.
	It was a stable world that Joe Biden inherited when he took the oath of office.
	Now the world is falling apart.
	People see that.
	And I think that that has changed internal politics in the U.S.
	Basically, that whatever one thinks about Joe Biden's domestic policies, they think that the United States and the world can't stand his foreign policies because he's been responsible for a General and noticeable deterioration.
	As Jack said, we're spiraling into war.
	And I think that that also helps heal the Republicans, because although the split on Ukraine is a very serious one in the Republican Party, I think people are starting to understand that this is an existential fight, and that will tend to heal the divisions in the Republican Party.
	Of course, you know, this is inherently an unpredictable situation, but it, I think, spells trouble for the Democrats next November.
	Gordon, if I could add to that.
	Typically we don't see in American electoral politics, typically foreign policy is low on the list.
	Usually economics is number one, crime, immigration, somewhere up there, but foreign policy is low.
	We're now seeing in polling that this may be the very first election in modern American history where foreign policy makes it into the top three choices because particularly Joe Biden's foreign policy has been so mismanaged and so poor.
	And we've got another year for things to fall apart even further, as it is now starting to appear that even the Western Hemisphere might fall into a conflict situation with Venezuela attacking Guyana, its neighbor.
	This is a conflict that's been simmering for a very long time, but has, you know, under prior presidents, has maintained peace.
	And now under Biden, that too is falling apart.
	Thank you very much.
	So there is a massive confusion that is happening in the U.S.
	and that could very much impact the result of the presidential election.
	So before we move on to the last topic, is there a way to resolve this issue?
	Is there a way to resolve this issue?
	Let us just stand apart and think about the resolution.
	So Mr. Takasaki, you're also a Christian as well as a good ambassador for Israel.
	So from your position, how do you think about the resolution?
	How do you think that we can prevent the war in Israel from escalating further?
	It could be just a hypothesis, but what do you think is the way to resolve this in less than two minutes, please?
	Less than two minutes, please.
	Dr.
	Another point, from the perspective of the third shrine, in the Old Testament, there is the second cathedral was broken, and then the third cathedral there is the second cathedral was broken, and then the third cathedral was, if the third cathedral is constructed, the Messiah of the Jews will come down So that's what they want to do, the Jews.
	Where is the place?
	It is the Jerusalem Golden Dome.
	Which is a very important sacred place for Israel.
	So if you want to construct the third shrine or cathedral, you have to break that or destruct that.
	The third temple.
	And Iran is an Islamic country, so they don't want that to be destructed.
	So, Islam and Jews, Old Testament, is the very basis.
	On the other hand, Christians believe in the New Testament, which is about a new contract.
	So I think you can find the answer there, in the New Testament.
	Christian Jews and Arab Jews, there are those people who are minorities, and they are hugging with each other.
	They have forgiven each other, and they are in solidarity, and that's reality.
	And also, the Hamas son, the book, you can't buy it today, but if you read that, the son of the founder of Hamas read the Christian Bible, And was really impressed by the word of Jesus.
	Love your enemy.
	And what I was doing was bad.
	He never heard anyone said that.
	and what I was doing was bad.
	He never heard anyone say that.
	"Love thy enemy." So he distanced himself from his parents.
	So there are two that only is based upon the Old Testament who are fighting against each other.
	But then there is the New Testament.
	And if both sides become aware and is enlightened by the New Testament, there could be a resolution.
	Looking over the history of humanity, one major reason of war is religion.
	There are always differences in religion or ideology at the back of major wars.
	And so what you said, Mr. Takasaki, there is forgiveness or grace as part of Christianity, and maybe there is a path to peace.
	Thank you very much for that message.
	So let me move on to the last topic, this war in the Middle East.
	We do not want to see this escalate into a world war.
	In worst case, Third World War.
	So that is the topic that I want to talk about last week.
	We don't have much time, so if you could keep your comments brief.
	I'd like to ask Gordon and Jack your views about escalating the world war.
	We certainly don't want that to happen, but we've got to remember that it's not the United States or Japan or the West that is driving events these days.
	It is a coalition of Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, maybe Algeria, that is setting fires around the world.
	And while I would like to certainly forgive and love my enemies, nonetheless, our enemies don't love us.
	And so, therefore, we have to be prepared for the worst.
	Thank you.
	Gordon, you touched upon BRICS, so can you again delve on that point as well as you share with us whether this will evolve into a world war?
	Well, I certainly believe that while BRICS is at its heart an economic alliance, we're already seeing the inter-military activity and cooperation between those those militaries.
	And so I believe that will increase, maybe not so much with India, but certainly between Russia and China.
	For my perspective, we must understand that great power competition is always going to be part of the international system.
	It's certainly always going to be part of any decision that's made from the United States, from China, from Japan, really any other, any great power in the world.
	But the main thing that I would say for the United States that what we must learn is that We cannot force the hand of any of these nations.
	And so this is why I've always been so supportive and continue to be supportive of President Trump and his ability to bring all sides together to create peace deals, but at the same time, maintain a credible deterrence through the use of military force if he needs to.
	And that's why in 2025, when he returns to the White House, I predict he will go to the Middle East He'll end that battle.
	He'll go to Europe.
	He'll end that.
	And he will come to Asia and restore the balance of power here as well.
	Thank you very much.
	So the re-election of President Trump is indeed the key to peace for the world.
	Thank you.
	Lastly, I'd like to ask Representative Aoyagi, if the war in Israel becomes a world war and impacts Japan, how prepared is Japan?
	Or what kind of preparation do we need to make?
	Well, as a politician, as part of the International Bureau, Japan is not prepared for war at all.
	That is the reality.
	If you ask the Minister of Defence or the Minister of Foreign Affairs, we're not prepared.
	And our party is probably the most vocal about the need to build up a robust defense capability.
	But from our point of view, we're not at all prepared.
	So if a world war breaks out, there's really nothing that we can do.
	We are underprepared.
	And so we need to make improvements.
	But one thing I wanted to note was that more than anything, we need ceasefire.
	Because the earlier the ceasefire will be, the less people will need to be... can stay.
	So in Afghanistan, there were like 130,000 troops with NATO and the U.S., and ultimately Taliban took back the power.
	So what happened was because over the past 20 years, the number of Taliban combatants never decreased.
	It was said to be 20,000.
	Many were killed, but the number never decreased.
	And why?
	Because parents whose children are killed never forgive the enemy.
	And same for the children whose parents are killed.
	So we need to decrease these people who lose their family members.
	Because the longer the war goes on, the more they dedicate their life to defeating the enemies.
	So that's just human nature.
	So Prime Minister Netanyahu must achieve a ceasefire because he said that he will kill all the members of Hamas.
	But that is impossible.
	That is something we have learned from history.
	It's an impossible situation.
	So Japan should not support such an impossible strategy, but we need to regain international order and we need to achieve ceasefire.
	And so there was a talk about the importance of forgiveness.
	We need to be -- that's what we need to promote.
	So you asked about the Third World War, but as a politician, I am not in a position to comment responsibly on that question.
	Thank you for being frank.
	That was good, conversely speaking.
	And currently, the Japan Innovation Party, as the second opposition party, should become the first opposition party.
	And President Baba, he's been criticized for radical words.
	But Mr. Aoyagi, as far as we listen to your comments, I feel the mission, strong mission and commitment of your party.
	So thank you for sharing that with us.
	Yes, we heard the recipes and comments.
	And when you go back home, take back from this session, what do you think?
	And who will you support as politicians?
	Who do you want the leader to be?
	I think you have gained many food for thought.
	Japan can continue to be in a neutral position.
	So Japan has a great role to play to minimize the wars.
	And as Aoyagi-san said, to achieve ceasefire, we truly hope that this will be an opportunity for you to seriously think about this subject.
	Thank you very much.
	Once again, please give the panelists a big round of applause.
	Thank you so much for listening and taking part in this historic seminar, CPAC Japan I want to thank the hosts and the organizers of CPAC Japan, Matt Schlapp and others, for putting all this together for us.
	Gordon Chang, of course, as well as the experts in Japan.
	Look folks, we understand that the United States, our world, the rise of BRICS, the proxy war in Ukraine, Israel, Hamas, all of this could potentially bring us to the witch's brew of World War 3.
	There is a possibility to off-ramp this.
	There is a possibility to choose MAGA world peace.
	But it's up to us to take it.
	And there are literally trillions of dollars between us and that future standing in our way.
	The only way, the only chance that we have forward is the spirit of the working man and woman in this world.
	Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay it short.
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