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EPISODE 593: IT BEGINS - TRUMP MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT IN COLORADO
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We had never seen a month in our history of over 200,000 illegal border crossers, John.
And under Joe Biden, we've seen it 16 times.
Even people who are not in favor of Trump are realizing that under President Trump, we had a peaceful world.
In just a couple short years, you've seen what happened when there's passive leadership and weak leadership.
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Why are you not 30 points ahead?
Well, I'm not a political pundit.
The goal of this lawsuit is to really remove Donald Trump's name from the primary presidential ballot here in Colorado because of his potential ties to the insurrection.
So this group filed this lawsuit really argue that he is ineligible to run for the White House again under a rarely used clause in the U.S.
Constitution aimed at candidates who have supported an insurrection.
The complaint was filed on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters By the group called Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Today is October 30th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
Well, folks, it's begun.
You know, I tried to warn you.
Tried to warn you all about this.
I said, and I've been saying it since, what, last year, the 14th Amendment is coming.
The 14th Amendment that they are going to push down, that they are going to use to attempt to drop President Trump from the ballot.
Colorado is state number one.
I told you that when all means of soft power were eliminated, only hard power would remain.
And here we are, Monday, October 30th.
The push to take President Trump off the ballot has begun.
They are attempting to do this to strip President Trump from his right to run for president.
And now, of course, they'll say, January 6th, they'll say, oh, we're all in it, you know, we're all in it together.
It's all a conspiracy.
It's all been set up.
It's all been established to destroy Trump, to destroy all these people.
But we know the truth.
We all know the truth.
This is the reason for the propaganda.
This is the reason for the lies.
The entire Jan 6th committee, the blood libel, the MAGA blood libel about Brian Sicknick.
Them saying over and over and over that Brian Sicknick was murdered by Trump supporters.
Brian Sicknick was murdered, but none of it was true.
None of it was true.
But no, we know the real reason.
The real reason for this is simple.
And I have a question.
Why hasn't Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley or any of these people spoken out against the effort to take Donald Trump off the ballot?
Do they actually stand up for their beliefs?
Do they actually stand up for the principles?
Do they actually stand up for what they believe in?
Or... Or...
Are they just going to go along with whatever the deep state wants?
It's very interesting because I hear Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley and others say, oh, I'm going to fight the bureaucracy.
I'm going to fight them.
I'm going to do it.
Why aren't you doing anything now?
You're benefiting from them right now and you're not doing anything.
You're not even saying anything.
You barely said a word when he was indicted the first time in New York.
Remember it took him a full day to even respond?
Yeah, I remember that.
Poso remembers.
And so the real question is, the real question is, we see what's going on here.
We see what's going on.
There's a reason that Ron DeSantis has dropped to essentially third place in Iowa.
He's now tied with Nikki Haley.
But we see what's really happening, folks.
They don't care if the 2024 election is canceled.
They will take away your ability to even vote for Donald Trump on the ballot.
And they'll do so and say that it's in the name of democracy.
Eric Swalwell's up there.
They couldn't even find a congressman from Colorado to even represent this?
Of course not.
They couldn't even find someone from Colorado.
Why?
It's simple.
Because this is a communist takeover of the American election system.
But I'll tell you what, they would not be doing this if they weren't terrified of you, if they weren't terrified of our voters, if they weren't terrified of the right-wing rise and the right-wing turn in this country.
They can see it coming from every single angle.
And guess what, folks?
It ain't stopping.
We are gonna keep coming because this train has no brakes.
You're never going to make us surrender.
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I want to bring on now Mike Davis.
Mike's from the Article 3 Project.
Mike, you've been tracking this story all day.
Tell us, Mike, what are we seeing in terms of the latest in this?
And then, more importantly, where is this going?
We know this is a bench trial at this point with this left-wing judge.
It looks to me as though, it looks as though they may actually go forward and just rule, just summarily rule, that President Trump cannot appear on the ballot.
Where are we going with this?
Yeah, I'm in the Denver District Court and we are Experiencing the Democrat legal harem Hail Mary.
They say impeach President Trump for nonsense.
They indicted him four times for non crimes.
They brought a civil fraud lawsuit against him to destroy his family business for the non fraud of paying back sophisticated Wall Street banks in full with interest.
And now we are dealing with a bogus legal theory, held by the Democrats that President Trump somehow Committed insurrection on January 6th and therefore under a post-Civil War amendment to the Constitution, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, President Trump is disqualified from running for office.
So they're just going to take President Trump off the ballots in Colorado, a blue state, and then they're going to use that precedent In Colorado, in swing states like maybe Michigan, and they're just going to say to the American people that even though you want to elect him, according to current polling on November 5th, 2024, we're not going to let you have that option.
So, walk me through this, then.
If, let's say, the court finds for, essentially, Crewe and this Soros group, and by the way, it is George Soros' group, the Citizens for Responsibility in Ethics in Washington, a left-wing group.
They're suing under this.
They're going under Section 3.
Of course, you are Article 3.
They're going under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
I'm having a hard time hearing you in this courthouse, Jack, but I think what you're saying is that... Okay, I can hear you there.
what are his avenues of legal recourse then?
I'm having a hard time hearing you in this courthouse, Jack, but I think what you're saying is that- Where do we go if they rule against him?
Okay, I can hear you there.
What happens is this is an action by crew, a left-wing organization.
They're in front of this Democrat judge in Colorado.
She just got appointed to the Denver District Court.
this year.
After the Democrat governor, Governor Paulus, announced her appointment effective in January, she made a donation one month later to a left-wing political action committee whose sole mission is to remove from she made a donation one month later to a left-wing political action committee whose sole mission is to This judge is clearly biased by making that donation.
President Trump raised that issue this morning to recuse her, his lawyers did, and this judge said she didn't remember making that donation, but nonetheless, she could still be fair because that's not going to be a fact.
Well, that's not the right legal standard.
If you're a judge and there's a recusal motion, It's not subjectively what you think, whether you're fair or not.
It's objectively, does the public think you can be fair based upon objective evidence?
And objectively, no one in their right mind thinks that this judge is going to be fair for Trump on a January 6th case when she donated to a PAC to go after people who supported Trump for his actions on January 6th.
She denied that motion.
It is a reversible error, meaning when this gets to the Colorado Court of Appeals, if they actually do their job, they'll be forced because President Trump had a biased judge.
I wouldn't count on that happening because Colorado has become such a deep blue state starting in 2006 when they went to all mail ballots and they legalized marijuana out here and it became a dumping ground from all these Weirdos from New York and California who fled New York and California because it was unlivable, and now they've made Colorado unlivable.
So you have these Democrat judges on the Court of Appeals and Democrat judges on the Colorado Supreme Court who will almost certainly vote against Trump.
They'll affirm this biased Democrat judge in Denver, and then this may have to get resolved by the Supreme Court of the United States.
They have discretionary review.
They don't have to take the case, but I don't know how they can avoid this one.
So, and again, and you heard of course from the lawyer at the very beginning of all of this, that basically saying this is a Supreme Court, excuse me, this is a 14th Amendment case, he's obviously presaging his arguments that will come before the Supreme Court, basically letting the judge know that your, you know, your actions in this case Will face review at the highest court of the land.
But walk us through the timeline on something like that.
Is there a way that they can sort of jump the queue and go straight to the Supreme Court and appeal it directly?
Or do they have to go through, as you say, those various levels of the state courts, then presumably the federal court, federal appeals, etc., like that?
What's the process?
You go through the Colorado Court System, the Court of Appeals, then the Colorado Supreme Court, if they decide to take the case.
If they don't decide to take the case, then it can go directly to the Supreme Court.
I think if you get a ruling against Trump, and it looks very likely this Democrat judge is going to rule against Trump and take him off the Colorado ballots, I think the Supreme Court, these appellate courts, including the Supreme Court, are going to have to expedite this because this has nationwide consequences.
Other states could follow this precedent and then we have this disaster of democrats attorneys and democrat judges and democrat hellholes around the country just taking trump off the ballot and taking away that choice for the american people and for people who are screaming about democracy that's the most undemocratic thing imaginable you want to you want to indict your political opponent you want to put him in jail for 700 years
you want to bankrupt him and if that doesn't work if that actually makes him stronger which is what has happened then we're just going to take him off the ballot so the people don't have the choice to That is not how the Constitution is intended with Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
That is un-American, and the Supreme Court, they're going to have to put on their big boy pants, and they're going to have to With their lifetime tenure and their pay protection, they're going to actually have to do their jobs.
And their job is to follow the law.
And the law is very clear.
If you want to remove someone or disqualify someone from the ballots, based upon an insurrection or rebellion, you have to charge them under federal criminal law, get a unanimous jury verdict, have the trial court judge convict him and have the federal appellate courts affirm or uphold that conviction.
That's the only way you can disqualify under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
And that has been the case law since 1870.
you.
Now, I'm just playing, of course, a devil's advocate here, and I'm definitely making a reference to the movie because we're talking law.
If the Supreme Court overturns this ruling, would that perhaps create precedent for the other states if they try this again?
That essentially it would overrule other efforts.
So could there be actually a silver lining here that if this goes all the way up to the Supreme Court, gets overturned, and they issue some kind of ruling saying that President Trump cannot be taken off the ballot over January 6th because no, it does not qualify, would it perhaps have a chilling effect on other attempts to do this, as you say, in these other states?
Well, you would hope that a ruling for Trump by the Supreme Court would send a very strong message to these Democrat operatives in these Democrat states and in these swing states that the American people, not Democrat lawyers and Democrat operatives and Democrat judges, get to decide who's the president of the United States.
But look, they went after President Trump constantly.
They've gone after him constantly since he went down The Golden Escalator in Trump Tower back before he ran the first time.
This has been unrelenting.
The Democrats have gone after him and they will do whatever it takes to beat him.
And they fear that President Trump is going to beat Biden like a drum on November 5th, 2024.
So they're going to do whatever it takes to stop him.
No, I think it's exactly right, and I wish, you know, that we would of course see that as precedent, but I tend to think you're right.
These people are just going to keep trying, and they'll use other novel theories, I do think.
We've only got about a minute left here in the break, and I know you've got to run back, but I'd like to also point out that it's very interesting that if you notice, and it's something that you've done a lot of work on, Mike, that it says even in Cruz's lawsuit, it doesn't actually contend that President Trump was behind January 6th.
So even they know that, at least in terms of what they call the assault on the Capitol, so even they know that they're on very shaky factual ground if they make that argument in court.
Yeah, well, I don't think that they care.
I've litigated against Crewe in Colorado for a long time.
I was a real lawyer in Colorado for 10 years before I went back to D.C.
to help Trump confirm his judges.
And I'll tell you that this Crewe is a partisan left-wing organization.
They don't really care about whether they have the evidence.
They have the judge, and that's all they need.
They have a biased judge who's clearly going to rule in their favor, and the evidence doesn't matter when you have a biased judge.
No, that's exactly right.
Mike, where can people go?
I know you're going to be throwing stuff all day to get your coordinates.
I really appreciate it, Jack.
It's article3project.org, article3project.org.
You can donate there.
We are gearing up for the fights.
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And thank you very much, Jack.
These are influences.
And, uh, they're friends of mine.
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But unfortunately, In a neighboring state, to the great state of Utah, is the state of Colorado.
And in the state of Colorado, communism is on the rise!
And no, I'm not just talking about the weedheads out there, because they're definitely getting higher than Scott Stapp in the middle of a halftime show.
No, we're talking about the communism that is sweeping through the court system.
Julie Kelly joins us now.
Julie, you were one of the very first people who warned that this day would come.
Now we see Democrats attempting to strip Donald Trump from the ballot in the state of Colorado.
How do you view this case?
Where do you see it playing out?
Guys, do we have Julie?
complete.
Alright, let's try to get Julie back up, guys.
So, Julie's out there.
She's pounding the pavement.
Look, folks, it's simple.
They want this country to blow up.
Does this seem like a movement, by the way?
Does the left seem like they're comfortable?
Do they seem like they're well-adjusted?
Do they seem like they think they're going to win?
Do they actually think that Joe Biden got 81 million votes and he's going to be able to do so again?
If Joe Biden really got 81 million votes, why would they be trying so hard to strip Trump off the ballot?
If Joe Biden were really able to just beat Trump from the basement, holding scant rallies, scant, you know, what do you do?
The drive-in rally the one time?
I forget what that was.
And that's how Trump lost?
Really?
Or was this perhaps the most stolen election in American history?
Alright, do we have Julie Kelly, guys?
Julie!
Yes!
Julie, you were one of the first people to call this out, that the 14th Amendment would be used against President Trump.
What is your sense of things?
Do you really think they're going to go all the way through with this?
I mean, I don't know.
This will be an interesting test case about what is going to happen in these states.
It's astounding that you have, you know, former president and presidential, presumptive presidential candidate who has not been convicted of any crime, you know, certainly waiting for these trials to come early next year.
But this jumping of the gun, we'll see what happens in this Colorado case and whether it's going to be successful or not.
But this is just, you know, an indication of things to come.
If Trump is indicted, certainly in the two federal criminal cases, with the January 6th case trial starting in March, if he is convicted, that will give momentum, to say the least, to Democrats for seeking this in every state.
And I think you're right, so this is what we were just talking about with Mike Davis, because my worry, not my worry, my concern is that, like yours, that even if the Supreme Court overturns this, you're going to get to a situation where they're putting these up on the ballot, or excuse me, they're stripping him off the ballot in every one of these cases, and then it becomes a timed situation, doesn't it?
You know, as he's fighting cases here, he's fighting cases there.
This is really the, uh, you know, we could call this the Gulliver strategy where, uh, he's the, you know, the giant Gulliver goes to the island of the Lilliputians and they can't, you know, they can't take him out with one blow but they just fire little rocks and arrows and tie him up, you know, like the, uh, like the, uh, the AT-AT walkers in Star Wars and, uh, and they end up tripping him up and that's really what they're attempting to do here.
And so, Julie, if that's the case, right, why is it that I don't hear any other Republicans really saying anything about this?
Any of the contenders?
They could do this to any number of Republicans who have said things about January 6th.
Why is it that you don't hear DeSantis and Nikki Haley and these others speaking out?
Well, I think that's exactly why.
Because they have attempted this for other lawmakers, including Marjorie Taylor Greene, I believe Andy Bix in Arizona.
Using their involvement, their plans to object to the certification of the election on January 6th as reason to keep them valid.
They successfully did this to Cuy Griffin, who was the New Mexico County Commissioner, convicted, I believe, of one minor trespassing offense for January 6th, and they used that, citing the 14th Amendment, as evidence that he needed to vacate his elective office.
So think of this timeline, Jack.
The only case that really trial would be relevant is Trump's January 6th, i.e.
attempting to overturn the 2020 election trial, the four count indictment by Jack Smith, that is supposed to go to trial on March 4th.
Let's say that trial lasts four to six weeks, takes you to the mid, maybe end of April.
Certainly a D.C.
jury will come back with quick guilty verdicts and Then it's usually two to three months after that, where the defendant, in this case would be Donald Trump, would be sentenced.
You cannot appeal a conviction until you are sentenced.
So it's not like he can be convicted, found guilty, and then appeal.
He has to wait.
So this would drag it out to, what, July, August?
Where he'll, you know, if he's convicted of these four counts, could face four, five, six years in prison.
Then have to wait to appeal after sentencing.
This is what DOJ, Jack Smith, and of course, Judge Tanya Chudkin are well aware of this timetable and how it will directly conflict with the heat of the 2024 general election campaign against the man seeking to put him behind bars, which is who is Joe Biden.
Julie, it's clear to me that they're trying to do everything they can to stop the patriot movement in this country, but when I look at these things, why is it that you think then that more people, or do you think perhaps, maybe we are seeing it in terms of independents that are moving on these issues, do you think the average person when they're looking at this, do they see it for what it is or do they think, oh it's just Trump and he probably did something and he probably deserves it?
Polls are showing increasingly that most Americans believe that these indictments, these cases, are politically motivated, especially out of the Department of Justice and Special Counsel Jack Smith.
I do think that there are some people who think, well, they're only doing this for Trump.
If they successfully get rid of Trump and the Department of Justice and the national security apparatus, then the corporate media will stop going after Republican leaders.
Well, it's just ridiculous.
They see how this has succeeded.
They will now see how easy it is to get a conviction from an almost 100% Democratic jury in Washington, D.C.
So this is only going to fuel the acceleration of this domestic war on terror against the political right.
And to your point, Jack, there are few Republicans, including, by the way, Republican candidates for president, some of whom are promising they are going to Rain the swamp like Donald Trump didn't.
They're going to clean up the DOJ.
They're going to fire Chris Wray.
Utterly silent as this escalation, weaponization of DOJ, FBI and now federal courts against the president and his allies and supporters.
They sure don't have a lot to say on this issue, Jack.
And it's really, truly interesting to me because at the same time, I mean, and President Trump has said, you know, if and when he returns to office, day one, pardons for all of these guys, pardon for Doug Mackey, pardon for Owen Shroyer, who's in prison right now, In Louisiana, we're told that he had to sit through an entire weekend of solitary confinement down there at the Oakdale FCI in Louisiana because he was not vaccinated.
Julie, is that standard practice, by the way?
Are they throwing everyone in solitary that's not vaccinated?
I mean, initially, Jack, you had January 6th defendants, some of whom were Arrested shortly after January 6, who spent months in solitary confinement.
Think of Jacob Chansley.
He was in solitary, he told the judge, for 300 days.
Charged with obstruction of an official proceeding, not even any serious crime.
And they tormented him into finally accepting a plea deal in September of 2021.
I mean, I've heard horror stories.
Joe Biggs is another one.
One of the Proud Boys convicted of seditious conspiracy.
Jack, he was in jail for almost two years before he finally went to trial and he spent months in solitary confinement.
I believe it was a prison near Miami.
So they are intentionally tormenting these defendants.
And I've even heard a story last week about a January 6th defendant who is now serving out a sentence on that obstruction.
conviction who also has been placed in solitary.
So these are political prisoners, to say the least.
This is the sort of thing, if we heard that was happening in other countries, that we would be running to the United Nations with a resolution that they're violating human rights, civil rights, and abusing their political foes.
We hear nothing about this.
I mean, this is actually embraced by the corporate media.
Julie, we are just about out of time.
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when we come back vita duffy joins us again here human events daily as we go through what could be very historic day in our republic in my ear about the boring people at your office i'm trying to listen to the new human events with jack pozabic all right jack so we're back live human events daily We're joined now by Evita Duffy of The Federalist.
Evita, we're looking and covering this trial, this new show trial that started today.
This is something that I think a lot of people have pointed out was coming, stripping The presidential candidate off the ballot, which by the way, who is a former president himself, the immediate president, former president, top of all the polls, clearly by every definition, the leader of the opposition in this country.
And yet we have a show trial here going on right in Denver, Colorado.
And I was thinking, you know, there was somebody that we used to have on the show that was telling us that communism was back and it's on the rise here in America.
And that was Evita Duffy.
So we wanted to get you on Evita.
How is it that the left in other countries and at other times has used these show trials or denying the opposition the ability to have a voice in government in order to achieve their ends at total control?
Yeah, I mean, this is textbook authoritarianism.
I mean, this is essentially an attempt to disenfranchise half of the country.
That's what happens in a dictatorship, in a third world country, where people say, we're going to actually, the elites at the top, we're going to decide who is going to be in power.
I mean, Trump is the most likely Republican presidential nominee.
He's Biden's primary political opponent.
This is not a normal case, right?
This is what the judge, Tanya Chetkin, I think her name is, she's been trying to continuously say in all these appeals, this is normal and we have to adhere to the law.
All of these charges against Trump have been really, really ridiculous.
And in the case of Colorado, I think really just shows how transparent the Democrats have become and how far they've descended into authoritarianism.
Well, and it's interesting to me because I think you pointed out right that it's not, you know, people will say, oh, every time I say something like this, even people in my family, people in my social circle that I talk to about, you know, all the time will say, they'll say, come to me and say, oh, Jack, this is crazy.
And oh, Jack, this is crazy.
And I think it's so interesting that you pointed out that this is textbook.
Because I'll say, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's not crazy at all from their perspective.
This is a playbook.
This is a strategy.
This is their textbook.
This is their writing.
This is their ideology.
This is the same exact tactics that we've seen play out.
Whether it be China, whether it be Russia, whether it be Spain, whether it be all over the world, these are the same exact tactics that they always try.
Now, you might say, obviously, they are crazy tactics for sure, but to say they're new is actually not true, and I think that's something that...
This is probably a broader topic, but it's something that, okay, you know, we in America, we say, oh, you know, what's that line from Ron Swanson?
History began on 1776 and everything that happened before that was a mistake.
Like, yes, I get it.
It's very funny.
It's rah-rah.
But it's something that I think Americans lose when we kind of diminish the fact that actually there was a lot of history that happened prior to 1776.
History that's very important, history that obviously, number one, led to the creation of the United States the way that it did, drawing off the Greeks and the Romans and the Bible, etc.
But also, the leftists have this history as well.
So, talk to us a little bit about why it's important for Americans to actually relearn that history.
Yeah, I think that there's a there's this perception that the left tries to curate that all of their causes and all of their all of their movements or the revolutions are always bottom up right that it's a revolution of the people and we're going to take over and and what I think that this show trial and what you know you saw especially we've talked a lot on the show about the Spanish Civil War or even what happened in Soviet Russia, a lot of times these movements aren't actually organic from the people.
They start as political philosophies from a group of elitists, really.
And their way of seizing or maintaining power is through elitist means, like this, right?
Leftism, particularly Marxism, has always been a top-down sort of business.
off the ballot in a state, in multiple states actually.
Colorado is gonna be one of many, I'm predicting, that are actually going to attempt this.
And so I think the perception that this is for the people, by the people is a lie.
Leftism, particularly Marxism, has always been a top-down sort of business.
That's what we're seeing right now.
And I fear actually what happens when the people realize what Democrats and the left have done to them come election day.
If Trump is booted off the ballot, or if the lawfare has become so severe that he's unable to even have a campaign, people are going to get very angry.
And that's when you see real revolution, the kind that the founding fathers actually intended the American people to consider when the government got too tyrannical.
Well, I think that's right, and I think people need to understand, to put the American Revolution in context, it was about self-determination.
It was the war of independence.
So that doesn't necessarily mean that we're just destroying everything that came before.
We did not have a communist revolution.
No, they wouldn't.
And by the way, I do have to kind of point out something, Avita.
You said that communism is a business.
And I was like, well, I don't think that they would probably describe it as that.
No, they wouldn't.
Probably the last people.
Yeah, no.
No.
Sorry, guys.
Well, no, I think that they're con artists, though, from the core, right?
Actually, this is so interesting, right, when we talk about what's happening culturally in America, too.
So it's not just political, right, in the way that they try to control our elections.
In 2020, it's not just, you know, it's not it wasn't just, you know, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop.
It wasn't just Russia collusion, which, you know, discredited Trump's entire presidency.
Right.
They do these kind of things.
But even there, there, you know, from the bottom up sort of displays of of of power from the people.
Right.
So I'm thinking of like a BLM, the Marxist race riots that we saw in 2020.
These things are are are always very organized and contrived.
There was a reason why the left pushed for the.
this George Floyd riot to turn into something way bigger than it was.
And it had to do with political purposes, right?
It was fueled by the media.
It was encouraged by people like Kamala Harris, who was bailing out rioters.
This is always a very top-down operation, right?
And I think this is what we're seeing right now.
This is what they did in 2020.
See, you caught yourself that time.
Right.
You were going to say business again, weren't you?
No, but I didn't.
Okay, no, seriously.
What it is actually, this is something that Eric Hoffer explained in his book, True Believer.
He is the longshoreman, just philosopher of San Francisco back when it was a working class area, where he wrote that the problem with trying to raise the working class is the working class is too busy working to really care about these revolutionary prospects.
And then this is what Lennon ran into when he said, I don't understand, why aren't these workers revolting?
They're just not organizing and revolting the way that Marx told them to.
He said, so okay, perhaps we need some kind of, I don't know, upper class control unit that is focused on helping the workers rise up.
And of course, you know, you see this because Lennon and Trotsky were both upper class.
Chairman Mao himself was an upper class.
His father was a landowner.
And what they ended up calling it was, and I'm sure you've heard the term, this is what they refer to as the vanguard of the proletariat.
The vanguard of the proletariat.
No, we're not dictators.
We're not a ruling junta.
We're not communists taking over the state.
No, we're just helping the working class to rule.
This, of course, is depicted in the book Animal Farm.
It's the pigs that control the farm and kill all the humans and then eventually send Poor horse off to the glue factory.
So when we're looking at this situation, this is exactly the same thing that has always played out.
It's never the actual working class.
It's never the actual workers.
It's never actually blue-collar types.
It's always these upper-class, bored people that are just looking to cause trouble, fanning the flames of division and dissension.
And they see something like George Floyd, and then they went so far, and we find this out now, that even the medical examiner, they made him change his medical opinion before he went.
This is in the new, the new lawsuit that's come out.
They forced him to change his opinion because they said it wasn't politically correct.
One more minute to the break, Avita Duffy.
Yeah, well, I guess what really upset me about that lawsuit and those revelations is that we watched our cities just burn to the ground for something that perhaps is a lie.
I mean, this man, George Floyd, had a lethal level of fentanyl in his system.
More and more evidence is coming out that this was a narrative-driven cause.
He wasn't actually murdered in the way that the media and even the court system led the American people to believe, which then fueled this America is an inherently racist nation.
And I think it's destroying our institutions.
It's destroying families and who we are as a nation.
And it should be enraging to everyone.
I think it's exactly right.
And they'll find another George Floyd.
They'll find a... And actually, James Lindsay has come out and he said they'll try to find a drag Floyd, that this is something they're looking for as a potential next stand-in as we go towards 2024.
Evita Duffy is our guest.
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We are talking to my favorite anti-communist, Evita Duffy.
Evita, now here's my question.
So, you've kind of done sort of like, you're like our Gen Z whisperer around here.
So, you know, when you're out there, when you're looking at the streams or the timelines or whatever app you're on, the Reels, the TikToks, etc.
Do you see this as, or just talking to people in general, do you see this rise of authoritarianism as being something that Gen Z is really focused on?
Do they look at it that way?
Do they look at this and say, wow, attempting to block a guy from the ballot.
This is if this were happening in any other country that, you know, we'd call it what it is.
Is this something that has really had any purchase there?
No, the Gen Z does not.
Unfortunately, they don't care at all.
They they do.
I mean, I'm sure they're like sort of supportive of it, but not really paying attention because they I mean, just to be clear with Gen Z has been Brainwashed by Marxists since they were in preschool, right?
And so now they're in their college years or just graduating, and they actually spend most of their time encouraging this kind of behavior.
So when I was at UChicago, multiple left-wing students ran articles saying that we should not accept conservative students because they don't deserve to be at our superior institutions of higher learning.
They constantly try to get conservative speakers or libertarian speakers booted off campus.
These are real, sincere fascists.
Probably, if anything, they think that Democrats aren't doing enough to make sure that Trump isn't allowed to run again.
These are fully indoctrinated fascists.
And unfortunately, they are supportive of it.
Well, that's incredibly that.
Right.
No, that's very insightful because this this this is essentially you're what you're saying is that Gen Z has embraced cancel culture.
So So this idea that the other side should not have the ability to speak, they should not have the ability to Uh, to be on the ballot.
Why not?
Because they're intolerant, they're bad, they're racist, sexist, homophobic.
They're, you know, all of these things.
Anti-whatever.
Whatever the flavor of the day is, they're against it.
And so, the idea is that cancel culture must be good.
So, you're not really seen because I've seen...
I would say that in general, over the last year or so, maybe even the last six months, we've seen this sort of pushback against cancel culture.
Would you say that Gen Z has not really followed that trend, or do they just simply view it as, you know, my side versus your side?
Yeah, they're very hyper-fixed on On the oppression narrative, right?
So if you are oppressed or the non-oppressed, and because they have been taught from the very beginning to view LGBTQ people, minorities, other types of people deemed oppressed by the left as constant in need of protection, they are actually supportive of violating other people's rights.
It's not about the Constitution anymore.
It's not about the founding fathers or the Declaration or any of the values and principles that we used to uphold as Americans.
They have a new dogma.
They have a new ideology that's really driving them.
And that is really, like I said, at its core, Marxism.
And that's also why they're very preoccupied right now with what's happening in Palestine and Israel.
They've taken the side of the Palestinians, not because they care about history or because they know anything remotely about the conflict, simply because they view the Palestinians as oppressed and the Israelis as the oppressors.
That's all their worldview ever really boils down to.
And so they're able to, you know, say OK to the violations of the First Amendment, of a whole number of constitutional rights and civil liberties and even even condone violence in the name of that cause.
And that's really interesting to me because it's it's it's and there's there's more meta narratives on this as well that you can talk about, you know, sort of as the as the popular culture in the U.S.
has moved really from post modern modernism to this new sort of ironic meta modernism where it's basically my side is the correct side.
So I have to destroy your side.
And there are no norms because the only norms are the norms of my side winning.
And therefore, my side has to win, my narrative has to win, my story has to win, and the idea of norms that everyone follows is like an outdated, outmodeled kind of belief where, you know, that doesn't matter because those are, you know, and it's, you can say it's, you know, it's tribal in a sense, but it's also this, it's almost like fandoms going to war with each other, right?
You know, my fandom is the number one, no, yours is number one, I'm gonna go to war with you, et cetera, et cetera, and all these different things.
You find all of this playing out on the internet, but we also see it playing out now, as you say, on the world stage in terms of geopolitics, you see it in terms of war, we saw this in terms of Ukraine-Russia, and we're also seeing this now in the Middle East.
And so, of course, it would just make sense that the very same metamodernism would then find its way back into American politics.
Yeah, exactly.
And another really important thing that Gen Z loves, their favorite catchphrase is, is my truth.
I'm going to speak my truth.
And so because they always talk about themselves in that way, right?
They say that whatever I believe or whatever my narrative is, that is somehow reality, even irrespective of whether it is or isn't, then that means that they can silence or suppress anyone who deviates from that.
And that becomes a very dangerous thing because the only way really to figure out what the truth is, is to open up debate for the free marketplace of ideas.
And they don't believe in that.
And they have closed themselves off and become frankly very intolerant and also very stupid because when you have a university system that does or even a school system in general, right, because you have social emotional learning and the lower levels, teaching kids that there is no objective truth or teaching kids that there is no objective truth or reality, suddenly you have people who are entirely narrative driven and they aren't interested in really talking or learning about anything because it could offend them.
And that is, I think, very dangerous for an individual, but also for a nation to have people that are so blinded by that kind of ideology.
We have a lot of work to do.
What can I say?
We have a lot of work to do.
Evita Duffy, a pleasure as always.
Your immense detestation of anti-communism, of communism, it just warms my heart so very much.
Happy Halloween.
Happy All Saints Day, by the way.
Everybody make sure you go to mass.
And where can people go to follow and get your coordinates?
EvitaDuffy1 at Twitter and my Instagram.
All right.
Folks, when we see the rise of this in our country, when we see our country attempt to be burst at the seams, you know what I say?
I say bring it on.
I'm not scared, and I'm not surrendering, and I'm not backing down.