Oct. 11, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 580: HAMAS RALLIES IN THE RUST BELT, THE TRUTH ABOUT COVID W/ SEN. RAND PAUL & VIVEK RAMASWAMY
On today’s must see episode of Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec is joined by Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky for a candid discussion about Covid and the release of Senator Paul’s new book, Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up. What’s the truth about Anthony Fauci’s involvement with the virus? Poso and Senator Paul dive deep to deliver you the truth with zero static! Jack is also joined by Presidential Candidate Vivek Ramaswamy for an important talk about the priorities of establishment Republic...
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
Today is October 11th, 2023.
I know, Dominic, we're pleased to be rejoined here on Human Events Daily by Senator Rand Paul.
Senator Paul, thank you so much for joining us and spending some time with us today.
Thanks, Jack.
Thanks for having me.
Now, I would be remiss if I didn't kick off this interview with asking you these horrific events, the ongoing situation that we see in Israel, attack by Hamas, potential for spillover into the wider region.
What are your comments on that and where are your priorities when you're looking at this?
Yeah, I think I'm horrified like every other American to see women and children, innocent people, unarmed people being shot.
Yeah, the music festival kind of brings it home for me.
I have three boys and they've all been to the different music festivals in the US and I can't imagine them going out to have a good time and listen to music and, you know, being shot point blank, having grenades thrown at people.
There was a horrific story of a young man who apparently eyewitnesses have said had part of his arm blown off, tied a tourniquet around his arm and then was taken captive and taken into Gaza.
What they've done to the women, to children, to babies.
I mean, it's just, You know, my heart goes out to the people, and I hope they find and meet their just desserts at some point.
But I also hope there's a possibility that we can actually rescue some of the hostages, if not all the hostages.
And I think that's really the priority, is rescue the hostages, and then try to diminish Hamas such that they can't do this again.
Well, I think it's exactly right and that there have been some calls as well from others, maybe not in office, but Mike Pompeo, others coming out saying we should really, there's been some reporting that Iran may have been involved.
I don't know how deeply, specifically know about this, but people have already called.
You can hear these sort of drums beating for strikes on Iran, moves on Iran.
Do you think that's a wise decision, Senator?
You know, after 9-11, we had some of the same emotion, and the emotions ran high, and some people were like, Iraq was responsible, let's bomb Iraq, and it turns out they weren't right.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
I remember even our soldiers were convinced by false information coming from government.
They were riding on the bombs.
This is payback for 9-11, and it turns out they weren't complicit.
They had nothing to do with it.
Now, I'm not naive enough to think Iran had nothing to do with this.
I think they do financially support them.
In all likelihood, some of the missiles may turn out to be Iranian missiles.
But at the same time, when you do something, one, if it's going to be an act of war, if we're going to bomb a country like Iran and we're going to become involved with a war, the president doesn't have the constitutional power to do that.
So it would come to Congress.
There would be a full-throated debate.
And I think there should never be a war without a full-throated debate, because if we're going to send young American men and women to war and to possibly lose their lives, there needs to be a debate.
We have to debate and vote on declaring war on that enemy.
But it can't just be done at the flip of a switch.
It can't be done rationally.
And we also have to think, what are the repercussions of it?
Will it make things better or worse?
And all that discussion hasn't happened yet.
Well, Senator, I think that's exactly right.
And certainly I can understand the emotional impact that these images have had.
My family, we were actually in Israel about a year ago, not far, you know, as we were driving down to the Dead Sea to just visit for tourism, see the Holy Land.
And we were, the road we took, I went back and mapped it out only about 20 minutes from where this rave actually was at one point.
And so I can understand people's responses, but I think you're incredibly right there.
that we need to be sure of what America's priorities are and that we don't turn this into another one of these endless situations where we find ourselves 20 years later looking back asking how it got started. - I think you're exactly right.
I think that's right.
Now, we're coming up on a quick break here, but when we come back, I want to ask Senator Paul.
He's got a great new book out.
It's called Deception, the COVID Cover-Up.
Now, here on this program, we've focused so much on the gain-of-function research.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Chinese Communist Party.
The fact that these questions still have yet to be answered anywhere within the United States.
We're starting to finally get some answers out, but it feels as though we haven't quite got to the bottom of it yet.
Senator, is the book out now or can people pre-order it?
Yeah, the book came out yesterday.
We're excited about it.
And it is.
It's really an in-depth discussion and really revelation of the extent of this cover-up.
I mean, this isn't a cover-up that's just not Anthony Fauci.
This involved hundreds of people through eight departments of government, hundreds of millions of dollars, and basically every bureaucrat in our government that had any linkage to dollars going to Wuhan was trying to cover it up.
Hold it right there, Senator.
Stay tuned.
Everybody needs to hear the rest of this.
The truth about COVID-19, the U.S.
government, the Chinese Communist Party.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back here live, Washington, D.C., We are speaking with Senator Rand Paul.
He's got the new book out that everyone needs to receive a copy of.
It came out yesterday.
You can get your copy.
Why haven't you gotten your copy yet?
It's Deception, the Great COVID Cover-Up by Rand Paul.
Senator, when you were writing this book, were there There's so many things with COVID-19 when it came to the end.
When I go back, I remember the initial videos we saw coming out of China.
We had no clue what was going on to everything that we've learned to now.
Was there anything that really stuck out at you or new information that you didn't know at the time that that you think people need to become aware of?
The thing that intrigued me and got me involved in this and involved with writing the book was that everything that Anthony Fauci and his cohorts, these other virologists, were saying publicly, they were saying the opposite privately.
And then it turns out that many of the people that were appointed to sort of be part of this all had conflicts of interest that they weren't willing to reveal, including Anthony Fauci.
When I asked him directly under oath whether or not he was receiving royalties from any of the companies manufacturing the vaccines, he refused to answer.
When I asked him whether anybody on the committee was receiving royalties, He lashed out and accused me of something, but would never answer the question.
And so there really are big, big questions and some reforms that I think should be obvious for everybody.
You shouldn't be allowed to vote on a committee if you're receiving money from the companies that are going to make billions of dollars by your decision.
So yeah, we have uncovered a lot of conflicts of interest here, but there's much to be done.
And in the process, I've referred Anthony Fauci twice for criminal prosecution by the Department of Justice.
But as you know, Merrick Garland will probably not go down in history as the most objective of attorney as attorney general.
So we haven't had much luck.
But other than just prosecuting Anthony Fauci, it's important to me that the truth be told and that people see the evidence laid out as to the fact that this virus did come from a lab.
It came from gain of function research that we were funding that Anthony Fauci funded.
But probably the most important revelation is that not only did he fund it, that he skipped all of the steps.
There have been steps set in place.
A committee, a safety committee, was supposed to oversee this.
And this research never went before the safety committee.
And as you look at the trail of emails from the beginning of 2020, when this cover-up begins, you see Anthony Fauci emailing to the head of that committee at three in the morning saying, hey, nothing to see here.
Looks like it came from animals.
And yet, The research never was reviewed.
In committee, when I challenged Fauci over who reviewed this committee, why didn't it go to the safety committee?
He says, oh, experts up and down, dozens of experts told me it wasn't gain of function.
It's like, well, show us the discussion.
The HHS is still not revealing a lot of this.
We get redacted stacks of paper, 250 pages of discussion over the origins of the COVID virus.
It's all still redacted.
None of it's classified.
And our Congress has voted unanimously to declassify this, and yet we don't get any of it.
We get it all redacted, and we fight them in court.
And some of the groups out there that have been fighting through Freedom of Information Act have done a great service to the country in revealing that basically almost everything Dr. Fauci has said publicly, he said the opposite privately.
And so when we get these emails out, when we see this, Senator Paul, let me put it this way.
You've done the investigations.
You've written these referrals.
What do you think actually happened?
What is your general, the general overview?
Why did Fauci conduct these experiments?
Why did he hold them and support them through these shell companies like Equal Health Alliance and Peter Daszak, and then hold this in the Chinese Communist Party and lie about it?
What do you think was really going on?
The interesting part of this debate is it actually starts 10 years before COVID.
10 years before COVID, there was something called the avian flu.
This is what you hear about when they have to kill all these millions of chickens.
It's a flu like the influenza that passes among chickens very easily and occasionally can affect humans, but it's about 50% fatal when it affects humans.
But there was a scientist in the Netherlands who got this great idea.
He says, why don't we take the avian flu and see if we can make it aerosolized and more easily infect humans with it?
It's like, what kind of idiot would think that that's a great idea?
Well, there was a big debate when the scientists did mutate the avian flu, made it more infectious for humans.
Anthony Fauci said, well, even if it causes a pandemic, the knowledge is worthwhile.
He literally said that.
That if gain-of-function research Causes a pandemic because a scientist gets infected and spreads it to the world.
The knowledge is worthwhile.
But there are many scientists on the other side of the coin who said, no, this is a risk.
This is a gamble with civilization.
You could kill half of the planet.
And so this debate raged in 2010.
This is actually why there were some reforms in place to try to have a pause on this funding.
But this is what we've discovered in the book is that Anthony Fauci went around all the rules.
It wasn't just the bad judgment that he thought the knowledge was worthwhile, which I think is an incredible misjudgment, maybe one of the worst scientific governmental judgments to fund something dangerous, probably one of the worst decisions ever.
But then when he did it, he also then decided that once it became exposed that the virus in all likelihood leaked from the lab, he decided to cover it up.
And so the real crime and the real evil nature of this man is in the cover up.
Not so much in his belief that the knowledge might be worthwhile, but in covering the fact up because he knew that the culpability, the responsibility for this pandemic would attach to him ultimately.
Well, I think that's exactly right.
When it comes to the Chinese Communist Party, and here in the program we focus on China a lot, what do you see as their culpability in all of this?
Xi Jinping, I'm sure, has read the exact same reports that you have when it comes to it.
Do you think that this was a deliberate, I'm not going to say release, but a deliberate spread?
I can't get over the fact, Senator, that they I think it would be more likely if it's a bioweapon that you're purposely releasing to send one person with it or ten people with it, put them on a plane, infect them, put them on a plane immediately for New York and see if you can get it rip-roaring in New York.
This thing became rip-roaring in Wuhan And thousands of people were being infected, and they lied about it from the very beginning.
We also now know, and this information has been declassified, the three researchers at the Wuhan lab were probably the first three people to get it.
Probably patient zero is actually a scientist by the name of Ben Hu, who worked with Dr. Xi in the lab creating this virus.
We also think that this virus was created with the intention of creating a vaccine.
So once again, maybe not evil purposes to begin with, But an evil result.
And one of the scientists over there that was involved, other than Dr. Xi, who's still alive, was a general by the name of Zhou Yusen.
We know that he was involved, and they were involved together, ostensibly to create a vaccine.
And in the end, in February of 2020, only weeks into this, they have a vaccine.
Nobody believes you can develop a vaccine in three weeks, since you, actually in two weeks, from when you know the genetic sequence.
So they think they lied about it, that this started in November, Accident.
It was a leak from the lab.
They begin developing a vaccine.
They have a vaccine in February.
But then, for some reason, this doctor falls.
He has a fall and is killed.
Some say he committed suicide.
Some say he was pushed.
Nobody will probably ever know.
But the inventor of their vaccine, and potentially the guy that was working with Dr. Xi to create the virus, ends up dying mysteriously two months into this.
And there's a lot of strange things going on there.
It's my personal belief that it was probably an accident.
Um, but then it was a cover up.
I mean, the cover up begins in China and they were dishonest to us about the sequencing.
They knew the genetic sequence before us.
They originally pointed to the wet market because for them, the wet market would be nature causing this.
So Anthony Fauci, because he wants to have good relations and because he doesn't really care about the truth, he ultimately showed that he cared more about the relationship with China than he cared about the truth.
He says wet market, wet market.
But really within about a month, the Chinese, even though they'd like to see it as a wet market, not the lab, they can't find any animals.
They looked through 80,000 animals and no animals have COVID.
So they couldn't find an animal reservoir.
And this is in contrast to 2003, 2004, when SARS won.
Which is a relative of COVID.
When it came out and caused a pandemic, they immediately, within months, found it in civets or a type of a wild cat.
But to this date, COVID has not been found in wild animals.
Well, that's right, because people have always said that we have to find the pass-through species, whereby in COVID passed through one species and then became essentially humanized or human attenuated so that it could infect humans.
I would argue that I think we know exactly where the pass-through species is.
They're the lab rats and the lab mice in the Wuhan lab.
That's what the pass-through species was, especially when they were specifically engineering them to do so.
And it's the one thing that points this in the direction of the lab versus animals.
When viruses come from animals, they don't infect humans very well in the beginning.
They infect the animal.
They're adapted to infect the animal, but they don't infect humans very well.
So it takes a while.
It takes many jumps from animals.
So when you start out and you look at the genetic sequence of this virus, There's many different lineages because it's trying to infect humans, not doing very well until it gets lucky and infects a human as a mutation, then it takes off among humans.
But what we found with COVID is this was already pre-adapted.
You're right.
There already was an animal.
They had mice with humanized lungs in their lab.
They run the virus through the humanized lung over and over again, and the virus adapts itself.
There was a good book called Viral by Alina Chan and Matt Ridley.
And in that, they talk about how the virus showed up already pre-adapted.
It didn't take time.
It wasn't clumsy in the beginning like most other animal viruses.
It got in humans and look, it found a place it already loved.
But the only way it does that is if it was pre-adapted in the lab.
Senator, we've got about one minute left with you before our break.
Where can people go to get the book to finally learn the truth about COVID-19 and both Fauci and the Communist Party's role in it?
It should be available everywhere.
You can get it online at any of the booksellers, but it started becoming available yesterday, and we're hoping people get it.
Because in it, we also talk about the solution, and the solution is that government needs to have more significant regulation on this funding.
The funding shouldn't be for anything, and the people making the rules, the people in the oversight, can't be the people receiving the money.
You can't be objective If your boss says you get nine million dollars if you rule one way, you don't get it if you rule another way.
It has to be because people are completely independent.
And this is as serious as nuclear weapons.
You know, so we don't let anybody have enriched uranium.
We don't let anybody create atomic bombs in their basement.
We have rules on that.
We have rules on selling of uranium and buying uranium.
We need to have those rules on DNA.
Today, you know, you talk about influences.
These are influences.
We are not going to be intimidated by staying silent when they say Hamas is a terrorist organization.
The fact, it is not a terrorist organization.
by staying silent when they say Hamas is a terrorist organization.
The fact is it is not a terrorist organization.
And we have to say to them their terrorist is Benjamin Netanyahu and his government.
And not only Benjamin Netanyahu and his government, but everyone that stands behind them and supports him killing people in Palestine.
We are not afraid to say it.
Jack Purcell with Quebec here, live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C.
Those images you just saw, and I think we've got some crowd images we'll be able to show you, that's not a rally that's being held in the Middle East.
That's not a rally that's being held in Europe.
That's a rally that's being held in the Midwest.
In the Rust Belt of the United States, that's Dearborn, Michigan.
We talk about Dearborn when we talk about the presidential races, and we talk about Michigan and the Rust Belt as one of the key battlegrounds of this country, also a place that's experienced great economic degradation, and yet you see this rally now that is essentially a pro-Hamas rally, saying Hamas is not the terrorist, Netanyahu is the terrorist.
How did we get to this point?
Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy joins us once again here at Human Events Daily.
Vivek, thank you so much for being here and spending time with us today.
Thanks for having me, Jack.
I think there's a lot to go into here.
You know, how did how did we get to a point where there are rallies in in Michigan?
Right, Michigan, the Midwest, you know, the the auto, you know, the the the auto zone, the place of the three, the three bigs, where they're rallying.
And this is a crowd where and we're going to show it in a second.
I mean, it looks like there's hundreds of people at this thing.
How did we get to a point like this?
So this is an important issue, Jack, and there's a lot of different dangers to the United States.
One of the unforeseen dangers right now, and I want us to use this catastrophe in Israel as a chance to remind ourselves in this country that if that could happen in Israel, and that was an awful event, it was the 9-11 equivalent in Israel, That can happen right here at home, at a time when we have disastrous immigration policies, disastrous anti-Americanism running rampant, people in this country with no loyalty to the United States, open borders that are easy for people to invade this country.
That is a risk with sleeping terror cells in this country, in our own homeland, that we haven't addressed.
But the irony here, Jack, is that we have to still adopt a response here that puts American interests first.
And so, it's easy to get pulled in a lot of different directions here, but my view is that Israel has absolutely the right and responsibility to defend itself.
That the United States should absolutely be diplomatically and morally and even in terms of munitions behind Israel as it does.
Because Israel is not the same situation as Ukraine.
Israel matters to the U.S.
national interest in a way that Ukraine does not.
But at the same time, do it in a way that is very clear we will not be in favor of a broader regional war that draws the United States into it.
And at the same time, use this as a wake-up call to protect our own homeland here at home against that very type of Islamic jihadism and terrorism that absolutely can affect the United States at a moment when our own homeland is vulnerable.
So there's a lot of different considerations there, and I think this is a time for cool-headed responses.
You see histrionics from the likes of Lindsey Graham today or Nikki Haley or Mike Pence in recent days.
Finish them!
Finish them!
Just do it!
Level them!
Without an actual clear-headed strategy of exactly how we're supposed to respond.
And that's what I've been trying to do, is to draw a very clear response for how we will have Israel's back, we will support Israel, but in a way that advances American interests and avoids all-out regional war in the Middle East, while focusing on protecting Americans right here in the homeland, where we are as vulnerable as we have ever been.
So I know that's a lot, but it's important to see the full picture.
Well, I think it's exactly right, and I've said before many times that Israel clearly has legitimate security concerns when you're dealing with a group like that that's right on your border.
And any, by the way, any country would do the same.
You've called for taking action against the cartels in very similar situation, very similar types of action that we're seeing now.
But when it comes to The response of some of your contenders, other contenders for the presidential primary, it seems like this situation, and to be fair, this is a horrific attack, there's no question.
The videos that I've seen, there are videos that I can't even post, it's so horrific.
We were actually in real time as the videos of that kibbutz were coming out, we played some of those.
I think one of the places in media, first in all of media right here on Human Events Daily.
But at the same time, it feels as though the other candidates don't get quite this incensed when it's something to do with the United States directly.
There's something about this issue that just really activates them differently than when we talk about the thousands of Americans killed by fentanyl, when we talk about the problems of our own border, when we get into the questions of, as we can see now in Dearborn, Michigan, the questions of refugee resettlement that lead to issues like this.
Why do you think this issue for one causes such a different reaction?
Well, I think I want to point out something, Jack.
It's not just this issue, because we see the same with respect to Ukraine, too.
But it's the kind of moral good guys versus bad guys abroad that, yes, will be a galvanizing issue for the Nikki Haley's and the Mike Pence's and the John Bolton's and the Chris Christie's and the, you know, Karl Rove's of the world, the historical traditional Republican Party.
Yet they, nobody, I mean Ron DeSantis got on a bullhorn trying to recreate a George Bush 9-11 moment.
I haven't seen him use a bullhorn.
Give me that bullhorn for the hundred thousand people that are going to die in this country of fentanyl poisoning that's intentional.
Dealt in many cases by the Chinese to the Mexican drug cartels over here.
Not the same level of anger.
Not the same level of emotional response.
And so my view is, we have to unapologetically in this country, once and for all, embrace what George Washington would have said and we've said ever since.
America first principles.
Put the interests of citizens in our own homeland first.
Does that mean we're isolationist?
No.
Does that mean that Israel's the same situation as Ukraine?
It's not.
We will analyze each situation uniquely, but we will analyze it through the sole consistent prism of what advances the interests of Americans right here in the homeland.
And the fact of the matter is that has not been shared by much of the Republican Party for a very long time.
It hasn't been dating back to the Bush era.
I think people are now viewing this vacuum in this election as a chance to revive that Republican Party of old that will use foreign conflicts as a deflection for the failure to address the interests of American citizens right here at home.
But that's what we're seeing in this Republican primary, is a fundamental ideological divide Between those of us who believe that the U.S.
President has an exclusive moral obligation to Americans right here at home, and those who believe that it is the important role of the U.S.
President to advance the interests of everyone in the world, and in some cases, ironically, even the interests of people sitting in Ukraine or other countries more, Than it is to advance the interests of Americans at home.
So, do I think Israel is the same as Ukraine?
No, it's not.
It's a different situation.
We have to analyze it differently.
They're an ally at a deeper level than Ukraine is or ever will be.
But at the same time, it does not advance our national interests to just march willy-nilly, blindly, into another failed, prolonged conflict in the Middle East.
We've done that before.
Keep in mind, we had our version of 9-11.
It was 9-11 in this country in 2001.
We made disastrous mistakes in response, in going into places like Iraq and Afghanistan, in Afghanistan far longer than we should have ever been there, in Iraq where we should have never been at all.
Three trillion dollars of our taxpayer money expended.
Even more importantly, thousands upon thousands of American lives.
I don't want to see us make that mistake again, and if I'm Commander-in-Chief, I'll make sure we don't.
But even if I'm talking to Bibi in Israel, as a friend, the thing I would tell him is, Here are the lessons we have learned.
We have made some of our worst mistakes as knee-jerk emotional responses to horrific attacks on our own homeland.
What happened in Israel was horrific.
Hamas should not be allowed to get away with it.
They need to be held accountable.
But at the same time, be careful not to be drawn into something that does not advance your nation's national interest.
And as I'm leading the United States, I will make sure that we're not drawn into something that doesn't advance our own national interest either.
And I think that's the kind of candor we need in putting America first.
I think that's better for America, better for Israel, and better for the world.
But my job isn't worrying about the world.
My job is worrying about this country, which I won't apologize for.
Well, and we've only got about a minute here until the break, but I'll also point out that you were excoriated, by the way, for holding this position at the presidential debates recently.
But I would also point out that because of the Ukraine war, you mentioned munitions, by the way, that this isn't, you know, this is not like some unlimited source of ammo and artillery that the U.S. just has.
So the New York Times actually reported back in January of this year that the United, the Biden administration, in their wisdom and genius, decided to take artillery shells that were meant for Israel, that were actually in Israel, that were destined for the IDF, sent them to Ukraine to help to help this ill-fated sent them to Ukraine to help to help this ill-fated counteroffensive up there.
Now, IDF doesn't have the artillery shells and could potentially, we're getting reports, very much fog of war, but they could potentially be facing an artillery duel with Hezbollah right now, the Iron Dome operating on lower capacity because we took munitions that were meant for the Iron Dome operating on lower capacity because we took munitions that were So people seem to think that we have this magic wand, and I would talk to the, you know, the Nikki Haley's and the Mike Pompeo's and say, where is all this coming from?
Do you think that we just have like an unlimited, you know, it's like Santa Claus and his magic bag of toys where we could just pull all of these things from?
No, we depleted our manufacturing base in the United States.
We depleted by sending our factories and jobs overseas and instead we imported into those very same places like Michigan, Hamas rallies.
Last minute, Vivek Ramaswamy, until the break.
Exactly.
Jack, you're right on point.
And next up is Taiwan.
After that, our homeland defenses that are badly missing right here at home.
I think we need the equivalent of an Iron Dome in the United States, where we're badly vulnerable.
And nobody's talking about that.
So I think we have to have a hierarchy of priorities that are linked to putting the interests of Americans in our own homeland first.
And the fact that that's crass to say.
I can't tell you the number of objections I've gotten in the last 48 hours calling my idiotic America first comments.
No, that is sound.
That is honest.
That's the kind of leadership we need in this country.
It's as simple as that.
America first does not mean America alone.
It is a strategic prioritization.
This is why Vivek Ramaswamy is out there.
He's saying things that need to be heard.
Ladies and gentlemen, right back with him as we continue our interview here on Human Events Daily.
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We're interviewing Vivek Ramaswamy.
He's running for president of America, as it turns out.
So let me just be clear.
You're running for president in this country because it seems like some of these other candidates are campaigning for other countries' presidencies, maybe.
They're campaigning either for the presidency of the UN or the presidency of the Board of Directors of Boeing or Lockheed Martin.
That's what it looks like on a given day.
And I think that one of the areas we haven't discussed, and I think there hasn't been a lot of discussion, is some of the nutty policies that we're continuing to pursue in parallel that don't directly relate to what happened between Hamas and Israel, which was a disaster and I think deserves to be condemned, what Hamas did.
But we cannot fan the flames of a broader regional war in the Middle East.
And I think if you're someone like a Nikki Haley, who is literally set up to profit, if you look at prior investments in current military contracting lines of business in recent years, or advising military-founded investment firms that invest in choke points to make money off of World War III, you are disqualified from getting anywhere near the White House.
One of those boneheaded policies of the Biden administration playing out now with Republicans dancing along is the discussion around transferring nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia.
That is nuts.
We should not want to see nuclear proliferation further in the Middle East.
We've got to make sure that Iran fully phases out any of its nuclear capabilities.
That is a vital U.S.
interest and Israeli interest as well.
And so I stand fully on the side of that.
But that's where the Republican Party would be united, but where is everybody else saying the same thing with respect to Saudi Arabia?
So we can go into depth on a lot of these issues, Jack, but the bottom line is we have a neocon chokehold on still much of the Republican Party.
That is almost rooting for all-out war in Russia that is now taking steps to increase the risk of all-out regional war that doesn't advance either the US or Israeli interest as opposed to having a clear, cool, level-headed, rational, not emotional, but rational plan.
Of exactly how Israel will correctly defend its right to national self-existence to the fullest extent possible, with our back, diplomatically, intelligence and munitions support to do it, but without letting this spiral into all-out regional war.
We have seen that movie play out before.
That is not what advances American interests.
And I'm frankly appalled, Jack, that of the people who were on that last debate stage, or who will be on the next one, that I am the only voice that's able to speak with this level of clarity, pro-American clarity on this issue, because that's the kind of leadership that we're going to need in this country, or else we're going to march ourselves into one disaster after another.
Well, that's exactly right.
And people can, I think, rightly assess that this was done to break up the peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Israel that were already going on.
I should say diplomatic recognition talks that were already going on.
Things that happened, you know, got started under the Trump administration when a lot of the Arab Gulf nations recognized Israel for the first time, like the Emiratis under the Abraham Accord.
Saudi was, of course, always the big prize.
The Biden administration seemed to be going along with this, but then they're also paying off Iran to six billion dollars.
Now, Hamas comes in.
They're clearly trying to ignite a wider war, which would lead to the eventual destruction of Israel.
They literally talk about it every five seconds.
Every time you give them a microphone, it's the first thing they say.
So, I don't think it's hard to figure out what Hamas's overall goal is here, but I really question why it is our goal.
And to your point, About the Saudi nuclear technology.
That was a question that I even asked National Security Advisor H.R.
McMaster when he was serving in the Trump administration because he had been talking about this same scheme of giving nuclear technology to the Saudis completely interrupting and unbalancing the balance of power within the Middle East as it is.
Iran claims they're close to Obama.
Personally, I think they probably have one or two sitting on the shelf at this point.
Pakistan, we know, has a few already.
They've told the Saudis that they'd be more than happy to let them use theirs if it ever came to it.
So, again, it's an absolute tinderbox.
And, oh, by the way, and I know you've been outspoken on this, is it a good idea or a bad idea that we've completely outsourced all of our energy needs to this region?
It's an awful idea.
I mean, the fact of the matter is we're weakening ourselves here at home by failing to drill and frack and do the things that even as recently as three to four years ago we were doing in this country.
To now shackle our own energy production and make ourselves slaves of other countries that then exercise leverage back over us.
So personally, Jack, I do think, I love the Abraham Accords.
I want to lead this country to Abraham Accords 2.0.
I think we should get Saudi Arabia and Oman and Qatar and Indonesia into that pact.
But what you need is strong leadership to be able to bring everybody's interests to the table without getting effectively dragged along for a ride where Saudi Arabia can say that they need nuclear technology to do it.
Forget about that.
That wouldn't have happened under the Trump administration as a condition, and it wouldn't happen under mine.
But they're taking advantage of Biden's weakness partly because they have more leverage.
Why?
Because they've constrained the permitting process to produce oil and gas in this country in the name of fighting nebulous climate change, an agenda that's a hoax because we shift those very carbon emissions to places from Saudi Arabia to China on the other side of the world.
That's senseless, but it is anti-American at its core.
And I do think that, Jack, it's important to call this out.
I'm using the word war in a different sense here.
But we are at a kind of war in the United States right now.
It is a war between the majority of us, I truly believe it's the majority of us, who believe in our national values, who believe in the founding ideals of this country, and who will fight for them to the death if necessary to defend our homeland.
And then a fringe anti-American minority that has the current Democratic Party in a chokehold, but it goes beyond partisan politics, a fringe minority that hates this country and what we stand for.
That's what the climate change agenda is about, constraining the United States.
But now you see what disastrous impact that has abroad in terms of causing us to now make weakened foreign policy decisions abroad that ironically take us into an actual hot war that we shouldn't be in, in places ranging from Russia to now, God forbid, the Middle East.
So, it takes clarity and rationality, not just emotional knee-jerk responses, yelling, finish them, finish them, screeching that Nikki Haley.
It has no meaning.
It is meaningless.
Lindsey Graham, Mike Pence, others doing the same thing, versus asking calmly.
How do we advance American interests?
I've laid out some simple things we can do.
Confirm an ambassador to Israel, for one, where we don't actually have one now.
End nuclear proliferation across the board, be it in Iran.
Yes, they have to have fully get to zero nuclear capabilities.
But Saudi Arabia, we shouldn't be handing over nuclear capabilities to them either.
Tell the UN, put them on notice.
We're not going to be okay with the UN drawing false equivalences between these terrorists who attack Israel and Israel defending its own existence.
No.
We're going to lead diplomatically, give Israel the space that it needs to make the decisions it needs to defend its own national self-existence.
But instead of using this as an excuse to march our way into one broader regional war, just as we're sleepwalking our way into with Russia-Ukraine, now doing this on another frontier, when our own homeland is as badly vulnerable as we have been in a very long time, no, we have to get that back in reverse, secure our own borders, our own cyber defense capabilities.
Our own super EMP, electromagnetic pulse defenses that could otherwise take out our electric grid.
An iron dome against nuclear missile defense in this country.
Basic border defenses using our own military to seal our own southern border.
That needs to be our concern in this country.
And even dealing with the possibility of carrying sleeper cells that could exist because of those disastrous policies.
Well, I know.
We saw the video.
We've got about one minute left.
There's another new candidate, by the way, getting in the race.
His name is RFK.
He's been outspoken on climate change.
How do you think he shakes up the race?
And I apologize for being the last minute here.
Yeah, I'm not a political horse race analyst.
What I will say is I respect him for defecting from the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party, standing against the weaponization of government, the weaponization of financial markets, and for free speech.
I think he is off the reservation when it comes to questions like climate change or racial equity.
So he and I have some deep-seated disagreements.
But I respect anybody who's going to stand up to an establishment within their own party.
I'm doing that on our side, and I respect him for doing it on the Democratic side, now going independent.
Ultimately, though, I think this is going to be a race between the two parties, and I think that he's an independent voice.
I congratulate him for it, but I don't think it's going to have a huge impact on the race.
All right, Vivek Ramaswamy, go give him a look, folks.
He's saying stuff that needs to be heard.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Alright guys, Jack Pacific back here, live, Human Events, Daily, Washington, D.C.
You know folks, when we look at these situations, these horrific images coming out of Israel, coming out of the Middle East, we say, thank God that could never happen here.
Thank God we're not there.
And then I see these clips coming out of The Midwest.
Let's go back because we've got some more audio.
Guys, can we play SOT 2?
Can we play SOT 2 right here?
Because this is information that you need to see.
No one else has these videos.
SOT 2, guys.
This is the rally outside... This is Dearborn, Michigan.
This is the Midwest of the United States.
This isn't some Middle Eastern, it's not even, it's not even some, you know, you know, Harvard or one of these places.
No.
No.
This is the Midwest.
Do we have Saw II?
So don't let them get it twisted.
This is not complicated.
When you go to a Black Lives Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags.
When you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags.
This is not complicated.
When Zionists march down the street, they say, death to Arabs.
When we march down the street, we say, free, free Palestine!
This is not difficult, everybody.
Palestine will be free!
Palestine will be free!
From the river to the sea!
From the river to the sea!
No justice!
No free!
No justice!
No peace!
Free, free Palestine!
Free, free Palestine!
The American government said what happened last Saturday was unprovoked.
We don't want to be violent.
We are not violent people.
We are full of love.
But when you have 75 years of ethnic cleansing, 56 years of occupation.
Before you end the occupation in Palestine, we have to end the occupation in Congress.
In order to do that, you need to be active.
You need to get involved.
Every politician like Hamer says that comes into this community and wants our vote and wants our money, he better support the Palestinian cause.
Or don't come here.
Because if you don't support the Palestinians, you have no humanity.
And if you have no humanity and you don't believe in justice, you have no right to serve and represent us as a people.
So I'm going to say something that.
I don't know, you know, you.
You watch these videos and you start thinking, okay, well, who was there first?
Israel had the Kingdom of Israel.
They were gone.
The Arabs came in.
Here's my question right now.
What are these people doing in our country?
Why are they bringing the blood feuds and the tribal conflicts from thousands of miles away here into our shores?
This is ridiculous.
That's the Midwest we're talking about.
That's the Rust Belt.
That's Michigan.
That's Michigan.
We outsourced our jobs and we imported Hamas rallies.
Right into the Rust Belt.
This is the refugee resettlement program that started under Obama, but lots of Republicans are for this.
And they'll say, oh, well, you know, this is good.
We just have to help the poor refugees.
Really?
Why is that our duty?
The Middle East is full of oil rich countries that got plenty of land.
Let me tell you something.
The land is not something they are short of in the Middle East.
How about you go to Saudi Arabia?
How about you go to Egypt?
How about you go to any other?
Jordan?
Any other one in the region?
You say, you know what?
Hey, there's going to be some refugees coming out of this thing.
You're going to take them.
And oh, by the way, we found a bunch of guys.
Turns out we had them.
And here's a word.
All right.
Here's a word that I'm going to throw out there.
It's very simple.
It's called Denaturalization.
Denaturalize and deport.
Denaturalize and deport.
Get used to it, because that's what's going to be coming.
You know, in this country, we used to denaturalize and strip the citizenship of anarchists and communists that were foreign-born, and we sent them back.
We sent them back where they belong.
Bye-bye!
See you later!
Arrivederci!
Alright, how do you say it in Arabic?
I don't know.
I shouldn't know that one.
Look, they shouldn't be in our country.
This was a fool's errand.
Remember all the base Dearborn memes?
All the base Dear... Oh yeah, yeah, yeah!
We're gonna get rid of the LGBT in classrooms!
We're gonna get rid of the LGBT in classrooms!
Yeah, because those people want to replace it with literature that talks about killing the Jews, that talks about being pro-Hamas, that wants to incite terrorist attacks like this.
That's what they would rather have in the classrooms, when you're putting out stuff like this.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Get them out.
Get them out on the first plane.
We can take a donation.
We can set up a drive on Give, Send, Go to send them back.
Literally, give, send them back, and go home.
We'll give, then we'll send them back, and they can go home.
It's as simple as that, folks.
I don't understand why people don't talk like this anymore.
If you're gonna go and support something like that, that's fine.
You know what?
That's great.
You go ahead and do that.
In your home country, in another place, far from our borders, far from our lands, far from the neighborhoods where my children play, where my children go to, we're hanging Halloween decorations?
And then you're putting up Hamas flags and chanting like this?
No.
Get them all out.
Get every single one of them out.
And it's simple as that.
It's your choice, right?
You're here.
You won the lucky lottery and you got to come to the United States and then you're going to act like this?
No, guess what?
This is still the United States of America and the people of this country have a sacred right as to who is in it and who isn't.
And it's as simple as that.
It's really as simple as that.
And if you don't believe that, guess what?
Airplanes right there.
Airports right there.
It's a big planet.
What, 190 plus countries?
Pick one.
Get out.
And I'm sick of this.
I'm actually sick of this.
And Republicans will go along with it.
They'll say, okay, it's legal immigration.
It's legal immigration.
Yo, abortion is legal too.
Does that make it right?
So, it's so ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous.
And I'm done.
Making apologies.
I'm not going to apologize anymore for protecting my family.
