Sept. 30, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 15 — Cancel All Debates? Shoot Looters? Boycott the NFL?
In this latest THOUGHTCRIME featuring Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff, the gang explores dramatic questions like:-Was there any upside to the second GOP debate, besides reminding us that we are sinful and deserve God's wrath?-How much force is acceptable to stop looting and rioting?-Does the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce story matter?-Should conservatives boycott rap music, Marvel movies, and the NFL?THOUGHTCRIME streams LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday night a...
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to another week's edition of ThoughtCrime.
On this week, myself, Charlie Kirk, and the boys get into the aftermath of the Republican debate.
What an absolute clown show.
Are they going to continue to hold these, or can we just get over with it at this point?
Next, we have a question about the Philadelphia riots, and we get into a debate about whether or not looters should be shot.
Is it legal?
Is it morible?
Or does it help with civilization?
And finally, Taylor Swift.
Is Taylor Swift a PSYOP?
I say yes!
All this and more on this week's edition.
Ladies and gentlemen, get ready to commit thought crimes.
From the age of Big Brother...
If they want to get you, they'll get you.
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They're collecting your communications. - Welcome to this edition of Thought Crime.
Is it Thought Crimes or Thought Crime?
It's whatever you want it to be.
Crime, it's singular.
It's actually singular.
It's in all of the... The whole thing is one massive, like... Well, it's 1984.
We could change it and say it's always been.
Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania.
Exactly.
And Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Jack, hello?
So, we commit thought crimes on the Thought Crime Podcast.
So, this is the point.
So, in this sense, this is using crime in its plural term.
So, crime as the concept.
So, the concept is thought crime.
Therefore, the title, even though it does not have the S, it is all-encompassing of the concept of thought crime.
I will say, I will say there is a growing loyal audience to this program.
I get so many messages of people, right Tyler?
I get so many people that talk to me about that.
They come up to me and they always, they're like, I just love Oh, it's .crime.
Andrew's really blowing me up.
Blake, welcome back.
Fan favorite.
10 out of 10.
Everyone loves Blake.
We have a growing disloyal audience to the show, too, I bet.
Oh, no.
There are some people that really send me a lot of messages.
They won't even send you all of them.
The amount of Blake feedback is really something.
Get the bald man off.
I don't like him.
Why do you have Blake on your show?
You can never have disagreement.
Only uniformity.
On the ThoughtCrime Show.
Exactly.
Everyone must agree.
So speaking about everybody that agrees, let's talk about the RNC debate, which really wasn't much of a debate.
So Tyler, I want you to start with this one because you kind of know how the debates are structured.
But first, Tyler, you have to try to make sense of exactly what is being said here.
Let me try to find this here.
Boy, Ryan, we have more cuts than I've ever seen before.
Okay, let's go to one.
No, the best one is... Which is the best?
There's this really good one.
Okay, yeah, 144.
These are good people who are tainted by a broken system, and it's not the fault of anybody who's involved.
Thank you for speaking while I'm interrupting.
You can't be on both sides.
Gentlemen, you'll have your turn.
- Gentlemen, you'll have your turn. - You can't be on both sides.
- Gentlemen, you'll have your turn.
- One of the challenges we should have a vote.
- We should have a debate between the debate and the debate.
- What, Tyler, what was this all about?
- I don't even know 'cause I didn't watch.
Yeah.
I watched the clips.
I didn't either.
Blake, did you watch?
Oh no, I was, I was with you man!
Jack, you're the only one that watched!
Look, one of us has to take a shot for the team.
You know what I'm saying?
And it might as well be post.
So leave it to the Pollock to pick up the shift, right?
It was a very, it was a very Christ-like sacrifice.
I got to tell you, I mean, this was like, I almost, the psychic violence that I had to go through, just the absolute sheer psychic torture.
And keep in mind, like I did a term at Guantanamo Bay, all right?
I did one tour down there.
Wait, as a prisoner or as a guard, Jack?
Jack, you know, it was sort of a 50-50 kind of split thing.
50-50.
You guard yourself down there.
Jack, do we show, do they show RNC debate clips at Guantanamo Bay, like to the prisoners?
I still know some guys that are, right.
I still know some guys down in the interrogation cell there.
So what I've actually been doing all night is taking the clips from last night's debate and sending them down.
But then, of course, the response that I got back was, whoa, Jack, wait, we're trying to get the intel out.
We're not trying to kill these guys.
Come on.
Do they call it Haley boarding?
It's Haley boarding.
We're going to be Haley boarding.
Nikki boarding.
We're going to be Nikki boarding.
We're going to be Ron boarding.
Now, Ron DeSantis is, of course, well familiar with that as a former Guantanamo waterboarder himself.
So, Jack, you watched the whole thing.
You know, hard to navigate.
Every minute, man.
Was there any takeaway?
Was there any sort of philosophical or political, you know, breakthrough or disagreement?
And why on earth within 10 seconds do we have someone speak in Spanish?
Jack, explain all of that.
So, yeah, Charlie, honestly, the Univision part, I still am just flabbergasted about.
They're opening this whole thing in Spanish.
I don't know why there's a Univision host there, especially when all she did was spread anti-American hate, like say things that gun violence is unique to the United States.
I'm sorry, you're from Mexico.
Have you seen Tijuana?
Like there's entire swaths of that country that are controlled by the cartels.
That's such a good point.
And you're going to tell us that gun violence, by the way, unfortunately there was a mass shooting today in the Netherlands, right?
In Rotherham.
At some university hospital.
So, but at the same time, why is a Univision host there anyway?
Why are we talking about trans issues?
Why are we talking about gun control?
They're playing Ronald Reagan amnesty clip saying we need to be more like Reagan.
I'm very confused about how this entire debate was put together.
There was a question about Survivor.
Like, who are you going to vote off the Island Herder?
I'm sorry.
That was fitting.
We are turning into a third world nation.
And these guys are up there.
At one point, they're arguing about curtains.
They're acting, though, honestly, Charlie, like it's the 1980s.
And I tweeted at one point that the greatest trick the Republican Party ever pulled was to just repeat the same 10 Ronald Reagan lines over and over and act like nothing has changed.
Yeah, so Tyler, you know this better than anybody.
What's going on here?
I mean, the RNC has completely screwed up this debate format.
So, to revisit all this, the RNC had a huge opportunity because we pulled out, the Republican Party, pulled out of the leftist-controlled C3 that managed debates.
Remember this?
There's a commission, right?
There's a commission.
I thought that was only for the general.
No, it's for presidential debates.
They handle everything.
And so the RNC, this is the first time the RNC is hosting all this stuff.
And I have some insider information here.
They don't have a lot of debates planned out ahead because these two, these first two have been such an absolute disaster.
They're really struggling with getting That's breaking news.
That's that's breaking.
So that's insider.
They're nobody like they're not doing a great job at this and they're struggling because they don't have a good product.
If this is a good product, right, which is what people want, which is again that populist versus You know, nobody wants to watch a bunch of, you know, uh, insider technocrats argue and debate this entire time.
And that's ultimately like the best case scenario.
Vivek is like a technocrat trying to like come off the pedestal.
Right?
Like, so like everybody else on that stage is a technocrat.
So we have a terrible product that exists, a huge opportunity and they're not, they're not taking it.
How are you going to win the presidency when you have a Republican national committee, a Republican party, That can't even put together debates.
How are you going to go out and chase down the 100 million ballots that we need to be identifying?
How are you going to do it?
You're just not.
It's not going to happen.
So what you're touching on is interesting.
There's actually a unique opportunity to have a robust conversation, Blake, of what does the Republican Party stand for, right?
So Trump doesn't show up.
Okay, fine.
There still would be a pretty fruitful window.
To say, okay, like, what do we stand on war?
Like, let's, let's re-challenge all these tired dogmas, right?
But we're not getting that.
That's what I think is really irritating those of us that, I don't know, have been awake and paying attention the last seven years.
That's really why the hosting, you know, some of the hosting decisions are so painful.
Like, yeah, having this universe vision person come.
Because you're, you're pandering to the, I hate to use this term, like the mainstream media, but what you're going to do is you're surrendering to them the ability to set the narrative.
And what they're going to want to do is, they, even if they're like trying to be fair, very often they're going to essentially have the progressive frame on things.
And so, yeah, they're going to ask you about amnesty, where they're like, well, you know, Reagan did amnesty when we had one-tenth as many illegals, and when we hadn't been scammed.
He also said it was his biggest mistake.
Yeah, and also, you know, we hadn't been scammed by it yet.
Like, now we know, oh, when you do amnesty, it's a scam, and they just keep bringing in illegals.
Well, that's like doing lockdowns now, after we've learned, you know what I mean?
So if you're going to do this sort of internal party debate, you just need to actually have a more partisan Republican actor.
That's why having Tucker Carlson host a GOP debate would be a great idea, because he's kind of good at those, you know, let's hash out the ideological split within the party.
You don't necessarily need to have, you know, for a party debate, you don't necessarily need to have this neutral journalist doing the questioning, and it's not actually that interesting.
But this is why your sponsors of the debate matter so much.
Are you ever going to have an honest, primary-based debate where you're criticizing Ronald Reagan?
This is why it's stupid.
Like a presidential library does all the time.
They go to the left.
They're kind of too conservative.
But are you ever going to have an honest primary base debate where you're criticizing Rod Reagan?
This is why it's stupid.
You listen to the base.
You do things at the base.
You get the right analysts to come in and ask the questions.
And you have the right media partners.
And Fox, by the way, which is your best opportunity, it's only downhill from here.
Like the RNC is going to get real desperate and it's going to be NBC and CBS News and a bunch of other really crappy, idiotic, right?
To the left of the Reagan Library, which is already way too far to the left.
And we're never going to have a conversation about what voters actually are interested in, so they're just not going to tune in.
So here's an example, okay?
This is just one of many.
And quite honestly, you know, we have all been in agreement that DeSantis is not good at this running for president thing.
But he's just not.
Maybe campaigning period.
But he hasn't been good at running for anything, actually.
Jack, hold on.
I knew Jack would just... If we get a DeSantis, Jack has to just throw a dart, okay?
But he's actually excellent on this education, black history stuff.
I think he's handled it terrific, okay?
But listen to this.
Play Cut 141.
Florida's new Black History curriculum says, quote, slaves develop skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit.
You have said slaves develop skills in spite of slavery, not because of it.
But many are still hurt.
For descendants of slaves, this is personal.
What is your message to them?
So first of all, that's a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris.
We are not going to be doing that.
Second of all, that was written by descendants of slaves.
These are great black history scholars.
So we need to stop playing these games.
I mean, what is this woman's name?
Great answer.
Ilia Calderon.
Why in a Republican debate, I'm going to stand up for Ron DeSantis, does Ron DeSantis have to endure that from a woman who can barely speak English?
Like honestly, like it's an AOC lookalike who's asking like an MSNBC type talking point.
That does no good for us to understand where the Republican Party is.
Jack.
Yeah, look, Charlie, a couple of weeks ago, we on this show were, I think, one of the only shows in conservative media that came out in support of Ron DeSantis on this textbook situation.
Yes, no, that's right.
And we said that a bunch of people that were running around attacking them were just wrong.
And the textbooks were, I mean, DeSantis distanced himself initially from the textbooks.
saying that he wasn't involved in the decision.
But I say, look, it's very clear what was being said, right?
It is a lie that they were saying, I'm just gonna, I'll clean it up for him even today, right?
They didn't say that slavery was beneficial.
It said that people used things they had known from slavery to go into business for themselves.
That's all it said.
It wasn't saying anything about slavery being good.
It was just talking about the actual history of the country.
And what is this person's name?
Elie Lecadlon?
Like, I mean, yeah, people... People are still hurt.
No, they're not.
You think that, like, Black America is, like, wringing their hands in their living room?
Like, oh, yeah, I'm really hurt over a line in a textbook for an eighth grader in Florida.
And people are still hurt.
And they're crying.
Governor DeSantis, they're crying.
Shut up.
They call their abuela and they shed their tears.
They call their abuela.
Hey Charlie, what's the number one, what's the number one condiment in America?
Salsa.
Why?
Because people like saying salsa.
Because people like to say salsa.
Because people like to say salsa?
You can put salsa on so much stuff.
Get that clip, Ryan.
It is legendary.
Okay, here is more.
Is she technically a foreigner?
I think she's an American, so I want to be truthful.
But she certainly acts like a foreigner.
Playcut 174.
The Department of Homeland Security warns that violence against LGBTQ plus people is on the rise and intensifying.
According to a recent study, members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes.
As president, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination?
Am I watching, like, Rachel Maddow with, like, a heavy South American accent?
I mean, this is supposed to be a repub- Tyler, this should make people repulsed.
It doesn't have to be this way.
If you want that, then go on CNN, right?
Oh, the number one attack is attacks against LGBT people.
Like, first of all, no, it's not.
Second of all, like, what kind of framing is this?
The number one attack right now, and again, I grew up here in Arizona.
I understand.
I don't speak fluent Spanish.
I have many members of my family who do.
I have many friends who are first and second and third generation Mexican immigrants.
This is the number one thing, right?
The biggest attack on their families right now is the attack on their family's small business.
They all run small businesses, varying types.
Stores, service industry businesses, they all run their own businesses.
Their life has been almost utterly destroyed over the past three years.
Utterly, that's it.
And all they talk about on Univision and Telemundo is the LGBTQ community.
Like, ask a single Mexican business owner here in Arizona.
We can walk down the street, go to a taco truck and say, Hey, how are LGBTQ issues affecting your taco truck business?
Or your landscaping business or whatever, your small business, your store, whatever it is.
How has that impacted you?
They're like, yo, no say, I don't, I don't, I don't know what you're talking about, bro.
I remember when I even more thought crime, go ahead.
I just remember in DC, I lived, uh, I lived near a Burger King, RIP, I guess we're boycotting Burger King now.
Poison King.
I did get food poisoning the one time I went there, but it had a television at it and it was in a neighborhood that was mostly Hispanic and I remember a big moment was I think 2019 or 2020.
They had the TVs there and the only guys who were there kind of in the evening were these like working class Hispanic guys who just got off their jobs.
And they got the management to change the television channel from CNN to Fox News because they wanted to watch Tucker Carlson when he came on at 7, 8 p.m.
Hey, A.S.A., put on the Tucker man.
Hey, A.S.A., I want to see him.
Oh, I like what Tucker has to say.
Hey, that's good stuff.
You can't put, you can't put salsa on an impossible burger.
Okay.
That's like, this is any place that serves an impossible burger.
They should be deported.
There should be a country.
We send these people back to only thing left at night.
Again, heavily Hispanic grocery store in D.C.
Only thing left during COVID when they cleaned it all out was the Impossible Burgers and the Turkey Burgers.
Oh, I think that's great.
But by the way, this woman, Elia Calderon, someone should ask, like, hey, what percentage of your people that watch Univision think men can give birth?
Like, I mean, it's LGBT issues.
No, Hispanics are actually vehemently against the radical gay agenda.
We should have a debate.
She's Colombian.
We should have a debate.
But she's a Colombian born.
I don't know where she was raised, though.
Yeah, but she's Colombian.
So this is this is the point, guys.
We got to stop listening.
And I know this is really hard to hear.
We have we have some really great people on our team at Turning Point Action.
Actually, Dreana, who's awesome.
She's Cuban.
She's terrific.
Wonderful.
But like, The number one group that we have to speak to, we have to connect with right now in America is the Mexican American community.
This is like all that matters.
And this is like where like there's the left, the far left, you have these crazy radical leftists that are born in South America and Central America.
And you have these crazy right wing, right?
You're not changing their minds.
You know who you're changing the minds of?
All the people who are like, wait, the muscular class, the ordinary class, which are Mexican Americans who have been here for three or four generations that are like, I have a connection or two or one right here in Arizona.
We have a lot of that, but that, that all they care about is their small business.
They have a Mexican heritage.
We all, we eat Mexican food.
I got, I'm a Mex, I can't survive without Mexican food.
Right.
Nobody's talking about Mexican food.
Any of these days, nobody's the closest we ever got.
The best taco salad, the top best taco bowls are made at Trump tower.
We need to talk about that.
And that's all we talked about for a week was the taco salad.
That's not even real Mexican food.
Like, like we, we should be talking about who like real stuff that Mexican Americans and Mexicans care.
All right.
More from God.
Play cut one 75 Colombian.
Univision poll found that mass shootings and gun safety are one of the most important issue for Latino voters.
Mental health concerns are not unique to the United States, but gun violence is.
What is your specific plan to curb gun violence?
Wait, wait.
So you brought up the point of Mexico.
That's the one that brought up earlier.
Yeah, but cartels.
You talk about this.
She's from Colombia.
You want to talk about cartels?
You think cartels are bad in Juarez?
Pablo Escobar much?
We're talking about Columbia, literally.
We've had years where Bogota has more murders than Chicago.
That's really hard to do.
That's really, really hard to do.
I think it's Bogota.
I don't care how they pronounce it.
I'm American.
I pronounce it the American way.
Bojota.
Cartagena.
Medellin.
All right.
Okay.
If you're from Venezuela, if you're from Colombia, if you're from literally Rio, like you don't, you can't tell us about gun violence.
All right.
You just can't talk about it.
And like, by the way, those three places make Juarez look walkable.
All right.
Like they just make, they make, see you dad Juarez.
Hold on.
Juarez is still really bad.
But compared to like Rio, have you seen the crime stats in Rio?
Juarez goes up and down.
We don't need to go deep into the lore on Juarez.
Hey, look, my dad goes and gets his tee fixed in Juarez.
We walked into Juarez on Periscope a couple of years ago.
We did a whole thing on it where like Tanya and I walked over and we were with like DC Drano and everybody in El Paso and we were like, come on, let's go walk into Juarez and nobody wanted to do it.
So we just walked over and everyone else was too scared.
We were fine.
We went in the middle of the day, of course, but we were perfectly fine.
We had tacos.
Juarez had, oh, Tijuana had 2,052 murders in 2022.
That's not nearly more than Chicago.
That is three times more than Chicago.
That's the place to go for medical procedure and murder.
The two M's, the two big M's.
Acapulco used to be this huge thing down in Mexico.
It's like a resort town.
JFK and Jackie O went there on their honeymoon back in the sixties.
And now it's like totally cartel controlled.
Like, there used to be movies shot down there, Hollywood would do stuff, and now it's all just like cartel land.
You don't go there.
Three big M's.
Medical procedures, murder, and Mexican food.
That's why you go to Tijuana.
Okay, our producer's yelling at us.
We have to say who won or lost the debate.
Jack, you actually watched.
Did anybody win?
Donald Trump, yes.
But come on, did anyone win?
Um, honestly, so I was handicapping this during the, uh, during the thing.
Right.
And that's, that's what people understand.
Like we're, we do this, you know, we're supposed to be like the political strategist here.
It's like, try to explain what's going on.
So Nikki Haley was having a really good night was all right.
For like 80 to 85% of the debate until that crap came up about the curtains, which could have been funny.
There's like curtains in the UN ambassador's office.
That Tim Scott brought up, and there was this big New York Times hit piece on it, and he tries to bring it up as his gotcha on Nikki Haley.
And instead of brushing it off, she decided to get in this shrill, nasty, arguing debate and totally engage him on the issue.
It got really personal, and it sounded like the two of them were just throwing estrogen at each other, and it was awful.
It was absolutely disgusting.
And so she destroyed everything that she had built up prior to that point in that moment.
So that was a really, really bad moment for her and it really destroyed all the momentum she had built up until that point.
Then the other big winner of the night, other than of course we can say Trump won, was Joe Biden.
And this was because Ron DeSantis decided to give Joe Biden the biggest gift he could think of, With a giant bow on it by blaming Donald Trump for the inflation in America.
This is a huge deal, one that Joe Biden's team online picked up immediately.
By the next morning, they had already had an entire campaign video cut on this.
This is going to be run in swing states.
This is going to be set on the debate stage in 2024, where a Republican governor has decided to just completely adopt Joe Biden's White House narrative that Donald Trump is responsible for inflation.
I think it was, I mean, number one, just a complete backstab by DeSantis.
And in the pro wrestling world, they call it scumbagging, by the way.
So he scumbagged him.
And then what it really is was a kamikaze kind of move from a failing and desperate campaign to say that, well, if we can't win, then we're going to try to sabotage Trump.
And that's exactly what they did.
Well, okay, but I mean, the Trump campaign has done that to DeSantis, too.
The DeSantis campaign doesn't have any chance of winning Blake.
Are you paying attention to like how politics works in America?
Or are you just kind of like paying attention to Blake?
Well, okay, but you know, I'm not on Trump's payroll here, so.
None of us are.
Are any of us on Trump's payroll?
I don't know.
Sometimes I wonder.
I wish I was on Trump's payroll.
Nobody's on Trump's payroll.
I will tell you that like there's literally very, there's only a few and you will know who they are.
The US murder rate in 2021 was 6.9%.
Homicides per 100,000 people.
Columbia is 27.48.
So anyway, sorry.
Go back.
Okay.
Let's play another piece of tape here.
Let's go to, uh, where's, oh yeah.
From the debate here.
Oh yeah.
Arguing about the curtains.
Really fruitful.
Play Con 150.
I think, look, I appreciate Tim.
We've known each other a long time, but he's been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that.
He hasn't.
They've only given four budgets on time in 40 years.
He was part of that.
He increased the national debt.
He voted for the spending.
You voted for it.
You actually asked for a gas tax increase in South Carolina.
12 years.
Where have you been?
Where have you been, Tim?
I voted on most of those things.
We've waited and nothing has happened.
Here's what you've done.
Here's the thing that I find interesting.
Ron, let me finish this first.
All these guys have said the same thing and I appreciate a lot of the things they're saying.
I'm the only one up here who's gotten in the big fights and has delivered big victories for the people of Florida and that's what it's all about.
Like, it's just so lame.
Like, is anyone going to care about this in, like, two days?
I just can't imagine it.
They didn't care to begin with.
Yeah, no one's going to watch.
No one's going to care.
No one knows.
You need to have, like, watched Fox News all day to have any idea what anyone's talking about with the curtains thing.
Nor will it just ever, ever matter.
It's like, what do we even remember from the Democrat ones like four years ago?
It was like Kamala Harris, like something about she was like a girl on a bus or something and it didn't matter.
No one cares.
No one cares.
And I was a little girl!
And then Joe Biden came, and he personally... And that little girl was me.
Yeah, and then Joe Biden personally came in and re-segregated the schools, and she still became his vice president.
All right, so this is supposed to be the line of the night.
He rehearsed it five times.
He looked in the mirror, his consultants whispered him, and did he stick the landing?
Well, that's really rich, asking if Chris Christie could stick a landing.
Play cut 143.
And I want to look at that camera right now and tell you, Donald, I know you're watching.
You can't help yourself.
I know you're watching, okay?
And you're not here tonight, not because of polls, and not because of your indictments.
You're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on this stage and defending your record.
You're ducking these things.
And let me tell you what's going to happen.
You keep doing that, no one up here is going to call you Donald Trump anymore.
anymore we're gonna call you donald duck all right i want to ask the governor boom whoa whoa how it's a pun ever he's done he's just i mean guys How will Trump recover?
I'm losing all my Trump paychecks after this.
Easy check.
So the question that a lot of our audience has, Tyler, Is that those people that did watch it, watched clips, and we got this question before, is who's in the audience?
Not very many.
Well, yeah, first, I just, let me just... You mean in person or on, on, on... In person.
Yeah, I mean, online, not very many people, or whatever.
The viewer numbers, we don't know what they are, but I bet they're sub-10 million.
Would you agree, Blake?
I think, based on online chatter, sub-10 million.
Which would be a disaster, okay?
Tyler, but who's actually physically in the audience?
Because when Chris Christie started taunting Trump, there was not a smattering, but I'd say a fractional applause.
Like, about half the room enjoyed it.
So, what do you think?
Yeah, so again, so the Reagan library is not very big.
So if I was going to... I logistically know the property pretty well.
Yeah, so Charlie's been there a bunch of times.
I've been there, I think, one time.
It's beautiful.
I love it.
It's in a very beautiful spot.
It is very palatious.
It's very, very cool.
It used to be very conservative.
It's now like a very purplish area.
It's going to get worse.
Simi Valley.
Yeah.
Thanks to Ronald Reagan's policies, by the way.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks to just the utter destruction of California.
It's the ultimate irony, right?
So, so a lot of people don't realize that.
So if we were going to host a debate, Charlie, at Turning Point Action, which we could do, you know, if the RNC actually wanted to work with conservatives, we would probably make it open and try to invite the whole world.
Because why not?
Like, why wouldn't you try to get, like, do this in a swing state where you invite people in?
And you have 25,000 people?
Yeah, to hear people, like, give the public, the general public, a chance to actually hear from who's going to be President of the United States.
